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Speaker: Hello and welcome back to the Crooked River cast. I am Robert and joining every week is Tom and we are just two guys from Northeast Ohio trying to figure out what day of the week it is.
Speaker: This is show 37 recorded on November 29, 2025. It's time to get over the Thanksgiving We've got some stuff to discuss. Let's go.
Speaker: And my house smells like dead tree. You went and got the Christmas tree, huh? Yes. Yes. was a tree day yesterday.
Speaker: Nice. and it was actually, I thought, wow, all this snow well keep kept there ah everybody away, it seems like. So that was nice to touch. A traditional tree.
Speaker: Tree dinner combination with the kids. Our live tree, which as the past four or five years, least they're consistent.
Speaker: Five to seven, five to ten dollars a tree that have gone up every year. Really? Yeah, I think we started at like $85, 90 bucks Now that we're at like 130. few years ago now they werere at we're at like a hundred and thirty Oh, so it's it's a cut tree.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, already cut. Yeah. I mean, it's the one, you can go cut your own, a but the best ones are are really the ones already cut.
Speaker: So that's what we decided. So we just go there, and they they're nice. they They cut it fresh for you. They wrap it in the little thing, throw it in the back of your car, wrap it on your hood, whatever you need to do. They're pretty pretty good people. They got stuff for the kids are there, and you can cut your own if you want, but meh.
Speaker: Wrap it on your hood. Well, not me, but you they will they they will if, you know. That's kind of weird. You can drive around with a tree on your hood? On the hood, that would be a little bit of a safety hazard, now that i how you mention it. yeah On the roof, maybe. Roof. Roof.
Speaker: Oh, it's been a long week, but a short week. I guess all of a sudden, both of us went, oh, crap. It's show day. Yeah. Yeah. Feel very discombobulated for sure, but we will get through it as we always do.
Speaker: yes, dead tree in the house. The dog's trying to figure out what the heck's going on again. And why it got evicted from its favorite spot in the living room. And, you know, we're going to start decorating. Oh, you didn't decorate it yet?
Speaker: No, we got to get it in. Got it in yesterday, last night, and then you got to let it sit for a day or so before you let everything relax. Oh, I see. We can really put lights on it. Usually at 24 hours or so Later today or tomorrow, they'll start putting lights on and then over the next week, we'll probably start decorating little bit here and there. It all depends on what kids feel like doing.
Speaker: And speaking of, ah I don't know, something, holiday week ah wasn't ah wasn't the most happy happy-go-lucky week as ever because we've had some issues. had some issues in DC just to touch on it, just to maybe bring everybody up to speed if they've been under a log for the past week. it's, it is a holiday week. We had a e tragedy. ah ah that Was it stabbing or shooting?
Speaker: shoot Shooting, right? Shooting. So this was two national guard members patrolling in DC and somebody walked up to them and i'm I'm unclear on, let me start with this. This is a hard time a year for me.
Speaker: This is usually the time of year where I shut everything off and stop up looking at the news. But this the show has changed that this year. Do you know what, do you have the details of what happened? Because vague on the details. Like I know he walked, this guy walked up to these two and walked up to her.
Speaker: And started shooting. And then I hear stories of the the the assassin, and the assailant grabbed her gun or somebody else's gun. Then this dude came up and started stabbing the the shooter.
Speaker: got any more than I got? i never heard anything about a stabbing. I didn't hear any details. All I know is that are there are some politicians telling me that if they weren't patrolling, this would have never happened.
Speaker: Yes. Yes. you know And if you if you would have driven your kid to school and he wasn't crossing the street at the time, he wouldn't have got run over. Well, if she didn't wear that short skirt, she would have never got raped.
Speaker: I was going for the little less obvious one. No, I like the obvious. I was getting to that next. Yes. it's It's your fault, mom, because you didn't take her to school.
Speaker: Yeah, I thought could have sworn there was something about a knife involved where they started stabbing the the shooter. oh The article I'm looking at doesn't have details. This is one of the earlier ones. Basically, as soon as I saw there was a fatality, I figured we should bring it in.
Speaker: um But he is an Afghani national who have who has, i mean, oddly enough, overstayed his visa? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Worked for the CIA. Yeah.
Speaker: yeah Okay. I mean, i believe that im in Afghanistan, it wasn't anything important. I mean, he has a, yes, probably not, but he also, but he has an obvious tie to the CIA, which is, you know, usually we're just guessing, usually we're just guessing that, but this time he actually said it. and But, uh, 20 year old Sarah Beckstorm.
Speaker: And,
Speaker: s so Staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf is still fighting for his life. And, you know, thoughts and prayers of their families. it's it's So in typical Trump fashion, he ordered 500 more troops to be sent to D.C. because apparently they need more.
Speaker: And more power to them. I guess that's not enough. I don't know. yeah so some of the Some of the repulsive, continuation of the repulsive responses to these things coming from the left is pretty astounding. it's It's hard to keep saying that over and over again, but they keep topping themselves.
Speaker: so they They can't read the room. i don't get it, man. I really don't get it
Speaker: it's ah You know what? ah The whole thing of um if they weren't patrolling, this would have never happened. I'm not sure if that ever came from politician. I know it came from. um Oh, true. That's true.
Speaker: You know what? I never i didn't hear a ah or see a politician post anything like that. Influencers. I haven't seen it. Yeah. Good point. Good point. Yeah. I misspoke probably.
Speaker: Yeah, but they're thinking it, allegedly. They might be telling the influencer influencers what to say, right? And we've seen in the past that that was that has been the case in the past. but yeah As the dust settles in the years go on, and go, oh, wait, you were being paid to say that. Oh, okay.
Speaker: So it may be. But I think this just proves the point of why they're there. mean, I don't know. To me, it proves the point of why they're there.
Speaker: illegals and the local officials not doing enough. I guess clean up your own house and you won't have to have somebody else do it. But I think, I think we got some, some breaking news, Tom.
Speaker: What's that? Nope. Nope. Nope. That that wasn't, the wasn't what I was going for, but okay. My, my breaking news thing isn't working.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. Huh. Interesting. Technical difficulties, it sounds like. Anything else work?
Speaker: Let's see if I can figure this out because going to be hard to play my clips if I don't. Here we go. Now, i would like like I said, breaking news. Breaking news.
Speaker: President Trump has breaking news and what he has found out, what he has done gracious, well, let's just, I'll give it from his own words.
Speaker: But before going any further, I want to make an important announcement because you remember last year after a thorough and very rigorous investigation by Pam Bondi and all of the people at Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA,
Speaker: the White House Counsel's Office, and the Department of Everything. We have a Department of Everything. You know what that is? I think that's called the White House. Into a terrible situation caused by a man named Sleepy Joe Biden.
Speaker: He used an auto pen last year for the turkey's pardon. So I have the official duty to determine, and I have determined that last year's turkey pardons are totally invalid. Oh, no.
Speaker: As are the pardons of about every other person that was pardoned other than but ah where's Hunter?
Speaker: But they're hereby null and void. The turkeys known as Peach and Blossom last year have been located and they were on their way to be processed. In other words, to be killed.
Speaker: But I have stopped that journey and I am officially pardoning them and they will not be served for Thanksgiving dinner. yeah we saved them in the nick of time in the nick of time what a gracious president even though sleepy joe wasn't really a present when he pardoned those turkeys he's still going to uh still gonna do it he's not he's gonna he saved them from being processed or like they say being killed but he has a few more things because he he did pardon and so it was a the turkey pardoning ceremony
Speaker: and You know, this idea stream story, and it it's a story about, well, here's the headline. Trump spares turkeys, but not his political opponents. An annual pardoning ceremony.
Speaker: That's the way I read it, at least. And they talk about this and then that, and, you know, he joked about this. and Well, here's here's the next one. here this The turkeys being pardoned today go by the names of Gobble and Waddle.
Speaker: When I first saw their pictures, I thought we should send them. Well, I was going to I shouldn't say this. say it I was going to call him Chuck and Nancy. But then I realized I wouldn't be pardoning them. I would never pardon those two people.
Speaker: I wouldn't pardon them. I wouldn't care what Melania told me. Darling, I think it would be a nice thing to do. I won't do it, darling. These are two of the largest turkeys ever presented to an American president. Over 50 pounds each. It's the largest we've ever had.
Speaker: Now, the controversy really, and this article goes on and we'll you know it'll be in the blog and everything. And they you know they they take every opportunity to talk about how they're going after his political enemies and and all this and that.
Speaker: And ah yeah you know I think ah graciously enough, though, he didn't well if if he if he if he calls him chuck and nancy then he can't pardon him and he has to cook him um but i think
Speaker: it's don't know it's it's it's almost like the idea dream couldn't uh couldn't help themselves oh yeah yeah and i think uh my favorite line in that whole thing is uh When he turned his attention to Pritzker from Chicago. yeah that's where Illinois. Thank you. I knew that was, I was. I refused to talk about the fact that he's a fat slob.
Speaker: I don't mention it. Find that clip. This is why I'm going to miss this man. Eventually. Yes. i I couldn't, I couldn't find that clip.
Speaker: And I wanted that. That was the clip I wanted, but I figured those two would suffice me. I'm not going to mention that he's a fat slob. I don't mention it. oh You know, it's one of those things. so I think the other part was, oh yeah. So then Trump, they used, Trump used, this is, this was my, I love this part of the article. Trump used part of his ceremony remarks to insist that the price of Thanksgiving meals was dropped, dropping under his leadership.
Speaker: Although his numbers are misleading. Oh, okay. Tell us how. Well, Some researchers indicate, some research, some research indicates that holiday dinners could cost more this year.
Speaker: A reminder of persistent frustration with inflation. i think the whole I think the whole thing started. ah Well, they're right. the Food has not gotten any cheaper. Well, I know, but they're like, well, his his numbers are misleading. But some researchers say it could have gone up.
Speaker: Well, they're not his numbers. they're He's using Walmart's numbers. And Walmart's changed their, um I guess, their list of grocery items for Thanksgiving.
Speaker: Yes. And there was less stuff on the list. So some numbers say that's cheaper. Some numbers say, but who's, so who's misleading? Was be mike was the president misleading or are you guys misleading? Because he's using the numbers to say they're going down. They're using the numbers say they're going up.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they just don't, they should, they should, you know, if they're going to say that, they should go into a little detail. Right. that's why That's what I was waiting for. you're Like, oh, his numbers are misleading. Okay, how? And they say, well, they don't, they don't give you anything.
Speaker: Well, yeah, they just want to take a little jab here and there. Yeah, that was the whole, you know, couldn't just do a pardoning ceremony. You just had to had to do the whole. And I guess while one of the turkeys was in the press press briefing room and, you know, Fondy said, Waddle, give us a gobble and right on message, right on cue, gave her a gobble. I wonder who had to clean up after the turkey in the press briefing room. that and like Like what position of intern you need to be to be like, you got to clean up after the turkey.
Speaker: Oh, I think any of those people will want to do that for the, you know, for it to be there. Speaking of turkeys, speaking of turkeys, speaking of turkeys and political opponents and going after, uh, going after your political opponents, the, uh, the final case against Donald Trump has been dismissed in Georgia.
Speaker: I'm getting to point getting somewhere here because there's, there's not, you know, what's getting to our Ohio. Trust me. The, uh, so the Georgia case, Georgia case has been dismissed. President Trump, what was the Georgia case?
Speaker: I believe have what this was all about from the idea stream, which again, another idea stream story. And can you, I got a couple of clips here. Oh, three actually shorter ones.
Speaker: The, uh, the joy and their, and their voices. I just couldn't, theyre they' Well, disappointment, not joy. It's not disappointment. It's not joy, it's disappointment.
Speaker: Because it's it's over. Let's see what they have say. This might be a background. Okay, Sam, just remind us how this case came to be in the first place. In August 2023, after months-long investigation, DA Fonnie Willis announced whole month grand jury in Fulton County handed up a nearly 100-page indictment.
Speaker: The sweeping racketeering case was sparked in part by Trump's phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brett Raffensperger in January 2021, asking to find votes.
Speaker: It also focused on an alleged scheme to submit a slate of false electors for Trump, tamper with election equipment, and pressure other local and state officials. Trump and his co-defendants pleaded not guilty, but four defendants did ultimately accept plea deals, and those convictions will remain. Oh, interesting. Okay, so... Oh, interesting.
Speaker: Fake... did he Did he call up and say, give me 10,780 votes? No. no No. He said there's humongous fraud in your in your state. Like, I don't know.
Speaker: Let's see. what what do What could we call from that time? Oh, the very first thing that popped up during election night. Do you remember?
Speaker: Oh, they've stopped counting in Georgia because of a water main break, which, as it turns out, never actually happened. Is that the first? Okay. that was That was the first thing I remember hearing was they'd stopped, ah shenanigans wise, they stopped counting in Georgia because of a water main break. And I went, man, there better be a flood.
Speaker: i mean, because this is easy to, this was this would be easy to determine if it's true or not. And it came, as far as I remember, that was not the case. There was no water main water-man break.
Speaker: They just stopped counting like they did in a lot of areas.
Speaker: Okay, so don't know. Let's, well, what but why why would they have dropped this case? Hmm, let's see. Maybe it's just NPR's Sam Greenglass joins us now with more. Hi, Sam. Hey, Elsa. Okay, so I know you have been following this case for years now. What led to this decision to dismiss it?
Speaker: Well, this decision was made by a special prosecutor named Pete Skandalakis. And you might be wondering what happened and to Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis, the prosecutor who in initiated this investigation. Well, remember, a Georgia court disqualified her from the case late last year over an alleged conflict of interest stemming from a personal relationship with a special prosecutor.
Speaker: Hold on. Was it a personal relationship? They were dating and she was hiring him for many different things. This just being one of them. That's what this was. But what what you know what happened after that?
Speaker: It then fell to Scandalakis, the director of a state prosecutor's counsel, to find a replacement for her. No one was willing. So he assumed the case himself, promised to review all the investigative files and the law, and concluded all charges should be dismissed. Wait, did the special prosecutor explain why?
Speaker: He did, and he wrote in part that the criminal conduct in the indictment was conceived in Washington, D.C., not in Georgia, and that the federal justice system would have been the appropriate venue for this prosecution. Now, federal prosecutors did bring charges against Trump, but the case was dropped earlier this year as Trump returned to the White House.
Speaker: So that was his his reasoning for dropping the case was... It was conceived in another state, so it's not in jurisdiction of Georgia.
Speaker: Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Sounds like he's looking for a reason to drop it. Sounds like a bunch of queer to me. gives them up This gives him an out. That's what this that's what that did.
Speaker: So if you conceive it another state and then go to Georgia and commit a crime, they're not going to do anything to you.
Speaker: I just think he's looking for a reason to get him off the hook. Nobody wanted to touch this case because there was nothing there. Trump said, find the votes, find the fraud. Find the fraud is what he said. Find the votes.
Speaker: And they're saying, well, he was trying to pressure. I'm like, no. ah Trump does make it easy to misconstrue. Sure. Yes. He does. I think, well, what's the final one thing I have here? They just are so disappointed.
Speaker: I called up Georgia State University law professor Anthony Michael oh yeah Price, and he disagreed there was not a role for the state here in an election interference case like this one and said a trial would have presented a chance for the public to hear all the evidence. oh This was really an opportunity for justice and reconciliation and for a kind of truth telling. And that has been squandered.
Speaker: Squandered. Well, as we have said, this investigation case has, you know, they've gone on for years now and it's over now. I'm just curious. and What do you think the legacy will be for this whole episode? Yeah. So so cases against some of Trump's allies do remain in a few states, but those federal criminal cases against Trump were thrown out. So so this Georgia case was really the last opportunity for prosecutors to hold Trump accountable for his alleged actions after the 2020 election. And now that is over, too. I know. That is impure Sam Greenglass. Thank you so much, Sam. Thanks, Elsa.
Speaker: Thanks, Elsa. We need a yeah a warning before there's like a lot of gay coming in through my headphones here. I mean, you know, I think at this point you got license plates that are gay now. It's, you're going to be okay. ah earth I hear you. that's He's part of the reason why I like the clip so much.
Speaker: He loves Elsa. bet he watched, i forgot the name of
Speaker: What's the movie with Elsa in it? No, I can't remember. I don't have kids. I don't know. Frozen. Okay. That was the one of the main characters. It was Elsa. So and that's why it's like, thanks, Elsa. I get to talk to Elsa all day.
Speaker: You do that so well. We've heard him. Yeah, I know. pretty good at it. So i've we've heard him before. He's actually, you know, he's... his Their disappointment was, that's that's why I kind of i just he kept hearing it threw throughout the whole clip. It was that three or four minute clip I cut up. But it's over. It's over.
Speaker: no, it's over. I'm going to get these buttons down, right? Anyway, so speaking of going after your political enemies, our next story, which would be ah the revelation that we've come across that Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan was targeted amongst many others from the Biden administration's DOJ.
Speaker: And spying on what? What did they, do you remember? i remember this coming across and people going, holy cow, how did they do this? Because a lot of these phone records, well, so the DOJ requested, subpoenaed phone records from, if i remember correctly, it's about three or 400 Congress Republicans.
Speaker: Republican politicians and other people other than just, it was like, I think they mentioned, uh, turning point USA as being one that they were subpoenaed.
Speaker: So it wasn't just politicians. It was commentators and news organizations, influencers, influencers, but more than news organizations for two and a half years of data from his phone.
Speaker: And I mean, so I'm reading these stories and I'm like, well, here's here's the idea stream talking about, look, they can't just do a story about the turkey being pardoned. They have to put in all this stuff about Trump going after his political enemies.
Speaker: And part of the problem I see here is Trump is expected to just take the high road. Because what's happened in the past is gone and everybody's forgotten about it or doesn't even know about it.
Speaker: Not everybody, obviously, but the general public, when you talk, when I talk to people in general, they're they, they kind of come off like, why, why is he going after these people so hard? Really?
Speaker: Yes. Yes. People are stupid. People don't pay attention. I, yes, there are plenty of stupid people, but I can't put one in one together, two and two together. I mean, like, but if you don't know this stuff happened,
Speaker: like You literally have no clue what happened. Listen, you're going to look at Trump like he's a big bully. How? He was bullied, wasn't he? Yes, but that's my point. They don't know he was bullied. What? 34 felony convictions? Fake felony convictions?
Speaker: or They don't know they're fake. Charges, I should say. they don't they People don't pay attention to that. i don't i don't this To me, this is not surprising. I talk to normal, like when I talk to normal, when I...
Speaker: I talk to a lot of people that don't know my political affiliation because I don't tell them because it's work related and stuff. So I feel like sometimes I get maybe some of the, theyre not a I don't know.
Speaker: They're not afraid to say stuff because they don't really know if I'm going to be forward against it. Maybe i don't know if I'm explaining myself right, but they literally just go, a lot of people go, I don't, I've never heard that. Yeah. What do you mean? he He's a, he's a fellow for 34 counts and you you go of what?
Speaker: And they say, I don't know. What can you tell me? Falsifying papers. Well, right. But they don't know that. And then when they, Oh, it's falsifying papers. And then when you start explaining to them, well, yes, but that's,
Speaker: Technically, that's a misdemeanor. And the only way it becomes a felony is if if it's and if you're doing those misdemeanors to promote a felony or to commit a felony, but now they can't figure out what. And OK, I've already lost. never They never said what the felony was. Right. There is no felony to make to make though that he he wasn't doing anything. They couldn't find one. They couldn't present a felony that he was, you know, falsifying these records to commit this felony. They couldn't. There wasn't one.
Speaker: But um what i'm my point is by time I get to about a sentence and a half in, eyes are glazed over. Yeah, they don't care. Do they know what happened in Georgia? No. All they know is Trump tried to falsify or tried to get bolt votes, tried to find votes. He tried to get- Overturned the election. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. And that's I guess that's my, that's this is part of the problem is- it's so hard to get your story straight to get the real news through. And I think a lot of this, he looks, he looks like he's a big meanie, which is a problem to begin with because, you know, people, Oh, you're so mean to the, like, are you serious? Like you're, you're, you're worried about these people. Like you're worried about Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and, uh, who's on the Republican side.
Speaker: and not Schumer, but, um, you know, those guys, rhinos.
Speaker: That's who you're worried about. The people who screw you day in and day out. That's who you're worried about. don't know. All that people can do is just go by what they hear on the nightly news, you know?
Speaker: Yes, but nobody, it's so nobody cares to look into it. That's that. that is well problem Why should they? If the nightly news is telling you the truth. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. And, and I, I don't know, I don't know how you overcome that, I guess. And and a lot of that, I think I just hear, I hear now and again from people who don't understand why, why he'd be going after Comey.
Speaker: ah ah You know, people really can't, don't have the time to look into things. And when you have 99% the news organizations ah ah basically an arm of the democratic party. What are you going to, it's hard to,
Speaker: It's hard to keep people straight. Yeah, and that's ah that's was kind of my my my view on um as I'm reading all these things. it's you You read these stories and you just hear, oh, this trump he's making fun of Why is he making fun of these people? that You know, they're politicians I disagree with, but why has he got to be such a bully? And we're in this semi-quasi world where people, maybe it's not as bad as it used to be, but everybody's on the bullying. No bullying. Oh, no, you know, to to ah to an extreme. it's It's crazy. so I've never heard that.
Speaker: Tell you the truth, I've never heard that. and he That people think he's a bully? Oh, I've heard that, but I mean, like, it's it's not, I mean, it's from far left-leaning people. I've never heard anybody in my daily life say that. Yeah, I mean, you're if you've got people on the, especially people you've brought over under the into the into the big tent, you start to get...
Speaker: Sentimental, you know, they get all soft on it. Oh, he's so harsh. Yeah. That's what we need. You know, everybody wants, that's why I tell everybody, everybody wants a politician that tells them plain blatant truth. I've heard, that I've heard that a lot. Just tell me what it is. Stop giving me this, this, this speak, the ah focus group approved, all that stuff. Give me, give me how it is. Give me the truth.
Speaker: Then you get somebody in there, give them the truth and and they all go, well, he's so mean. Yeah. I've never heard that tell you the truth. So yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, continue with Jim. i know I know people feel that way. I know some people feel that way, but I don't, its I've never heard anybody say they don't, you know, that calling him a bully.
Speaker: I mean, you know, he can come across that way.
Speaker: yeah and But that's only because of the news. I mean, yes when Obama kills an American citizen and he just walks away saying that sometimes people are in the wrong place at the wrong time. When Obama's nickname on the left was Obama.
Speaker: Yeah. and that I don't think in the U.S., but... There were some some lefty peaceniks that were very upset with him. yeah but Yeah, of course. But I mean, he wasn't called a bully, but he could have easily been called a bully on occasions like that.
Speaker: I mean, i don't know. How about subpoenaing subpoenaing two and a half years of phone records from congresspeople without telling them and telling Verizon you can't tell anybody?
Speaker: Not just phone records, metadata, payment information, location, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah no it's yeah but it's just covered up. you know It's not talked about. you He was a little slop more sly about it.
Speaker: And Cleveland.com. Cleveland.com. did not. i I was disciplined and refrained from going to the podcast and listening. But this is a Cleveland.com story. a Cleveland.com story?
Speaker: They don't have it up. ah maybe Just talk about it. Yeah, it's here. Basically, Cleveland.com agrees and says this was overreach.
Speaker: Whoa. Yeah. And they said, if this is the way happened, this is overreach and we, we should be looking into it. Yeah. Are you okay, Tom? Did you fall over?
Speaker: yeah Mike got in the way. Oh, I thought maybe you've passed out because of the news. Cleveland.com. Yeah. Yeah. They, they had said, uh, that they, that this was a government overreach and that something should be done about it.
Speaker: And, My thing was, yeah, we we we know. we We know the DOJ. And they said that this is the DOJ out of control. Yeah, I know. That's why we voted for Trump.
Speaker: Because this was this this is the status quo. This was the status quo. yeah How many other times has this happened that we don't know about? From previous, i mean, not just Biden, but Bush, Clinton, who cares, right? How many times is this this kind of crap? If he did it to him,
Speaker: and ah multiple other Congress people and major influencers. Who else have they done it to that we don't know about? So this is why we vote. And this is what this is why we we don't understand how you can't see that. And yet you continually fight against this change from this kind of status quo.
Speaker: James Comey, hello. Talking about, oh, but his political enemies. Oh, why is he picking on James Comey? well Maybe this is why.
Speaker: And who's Jim Jordan? So Jim Jordan, obviously he's, he's Ohio Congress person, but he's the, I think the chairman of the judiciary committee. What is one of the responsibilities of that committee is to oversee the DOJ.
Speaker: That just adds to it. In other news, Cleveland.com writer looking for a new job. Yeah. but
Speaker: And I think, um, The addition to this one was, i think, in the in this the last CR bill, the last continuing resolution, the one that's the shutdown bill they just passed.
Speaker: They put in there little ad, little amendment that allows GOP senators, I believe it's specified senators are allowed to now sue the GOJ for releasing, for for subpoenaing their records.
Speaker: But mike so everybody's kind of freaking out because if you're going to sue the DOJ, then you're basically suing the American people because it's tax money they're going to use. And i was like, well, I i get it. But the DOJ kind of.
Speaker: i mean, I know there's Congress people that do they do have have some privacy. But is anyone going to pay for this except for the American people?
Speaker: I don't think so. I think I think nothing's going to happen. as usual. And why is that? Because it's up to the Republicans to do anything and they ain't got the cojones. They got nothing.
Speaker: Nothing. Factless. Yes. Do nothing. GOP.
Speaker: Do nothing GOP. Yes. So what's going to follow along and see if anyone happens to this, this Jim Jordan thing and many, many, like I said, there's three or 400 other people that they did this to and and NDAs and all kinds of stuff with's with, with the phone companies, AT&T and Verizon, I believe it was.
Speaker: So I guess we'll follow along and see there's any fallout from this, but I honestly don't think there will be any. And where can you follow along, Tom? Check out the website.
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Speaker: So we had our, not that it ever would happen, but we had our ah our awesome webmaster who, you and I had talked about it, bringing this up, this this little correction up about the voter.
Speaker: We forgot to bring it up. Yeah, I totally forgot to bring it up. The voter registration or or ah ID, I think it was voter ID or when you get registered, what what you have to show. and I am.
Speaker: Rubbing through the blog here. Here we go. So they, it's not what we thought. So um we were wondering, like, when do you have to, so there was a new bill being passed. Is that what it was that would, forcing you to show proof of citizenship at registration?
Speaker: Yeah. But I think we were right. It's what, what Ohio does now is relatively new. You know, i I think what I said, and I, I don't want to,
Speaker: I forget exactly how I worded it, but um it was pretty easy to get a register to vote and to go vote without being a ah citizen.
Speaker: And
Speaker: it used to be. Now now it's a little difficult more difficult, I should say. But there is something on your license. Yeah, now there is. But that that's up to, you know, most of the... most of the errors that happen now are because of the people at the working at the polls not not not because of um id or anything like that it's people just not checking into stuff all right so when you when you get your license and you have a green card there's a they notate it on the license so that when you go to the voting booth it's on there then you can't vote is that
Speaker: Yeah. right yeah But it's still up to the person checking. Yeah. So there's still a human error factor. and Yes. But it is caught up. And that's what was added by. After the fact, we were corrected.
Speaker: Yeah. And that's because our our lovely webmaster works is also a poll worker. Yes. I think she's ah basically a GOP watchdog over there.
Speaker: She makes sure everybody's doing their job correctly. Good. Definitely need that. But that's what kind of things you get on the blog. And if if we come across if you come across something that needs some clarification, not that we would ever be wrong, but might need some clarification, you can also shoot us an email crookedrivercast at gmail.com.
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Speaker: I'm awesome. Everybody should know that. Yeah. ah Please comment on how awesome Tom is. He's she's feeling, he sounds a little better after he's gotten over his concussion. Yeah, actually I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah, I can tell. I can tell the difference.
Speaker: Hey, hey then, those things aren't, I mean, you should probably watch that movie now with Will Smith. You probably have a much more bigger connection to it about the NFL scandal. Oh yeah. Concussions are no um not to mess around with. I still won't go on the corkscrew.
Speaker: Yeah. I got a concussion from that thing when I was, don't know, 12. It took me about, it took me almost two weeks to kind of get back to normal. It was weird.
Speaker: Yeah. Nothing hurt. I mean, my body was a little sore. My head was, you know, if I touched the, you know, the knot on my head, it it was, it was sore, but I'd get strange headaches throughout the couple of weeks that it lasted.
Speaker: It was one of the reasons Dale Earnhardt Jr. retired when he did. Oh yeah. Cause he got, i mean, in a car, he still got a concussion. Cause even, even with all the stuff they have on, you still get it.
Speaker: And he was messed up for months because he ignored it and didn't do the protocol that, you know, the, what the medical field, he'd kind of just said, I'm good. And like a month or two later, he was still messed up.
Speaker: And it kind of showed him like, yeah. think it I think he maybe looked at his bank account and said, yeah, you know what? I could probably go out to work anymore. all I could do this podcasting.
Speaker: from yeah oh is that what he's doing he has a show on youtube where he interviews because he's got all the hes ah he does broadcasting though he does broadcasting for the races um but also because he's his last name's earnhard he can get basically anybody has an interview so he has a pretty good pretty big it's not a podcast it's a youtube show that's a podcast yeah but it's actually pretty popular too it's actually it for somebody who's not I guess he is a broadcaster.
Speaker: Yeah. So nevermind. So it's pretty good. Yeah. He is a broadcaster. but You know what? It's, I'm not a NASCAR fan or anything, but what happened to NASCAR? It used to be, I, all I'd heard about was NASCAR. I think it was like, what, in the nineties, early two thousands, even two thousands. Yeah. Two thousands. It's, um, I think late nineties, it started ra ramping up in the early two thousands.
Speaker: probably when I started getting into it too, I knew my brother got into it and kind of dragged me into it. It it ran its course. It was one it's one of those things that got crazy and then it fell off. they i mean, they still get good crowds. i Yeah. I know that.
Speaker: They were adding, adding tracks, but adding to tracks, uh, seating capacity every year. It seemed like every couple of years. And I think they're kind of pulling some of that back. Some of the less popular tracks have closed.
Speaker: They've moved, they've moved them elsewhere and, yeah what What happened? Just kind of, ah yeah, okay, lost. i Yeah, I think it just ran its course. Yeah, okay.
Speaker: Just had its fad and it kind of went, but it's still, it's still huge. It's just not as. Right, right. ah Anyway, back on track here. Back on track. Share the show, comment, bookrivercast.com. All right, next.
Speaker: Next is a ah ah kind of a story that I think I'll start off with. Maybe the the the proper, yes, we'll do the proper
Speaker: because it's, you know, I got all excited because Ohio resolution calls for federal term limits, but it it really doesn't, doesn't mean anything. It's just, it's just a suggestion that we should have term limits.
Speaker: But thought there was some interesting information that I could pull out of this story. We mentioned Marcy Keptor last week. She was one of the ones who voted against her own constituents, like about $3 million dollars because she didn't want to vote for the opening the government.
Speaker: So she was voting against, we talked about last week. Didn't realize, I should have known better, but didn't realize that that in this article they go through some of the long, again, this is a Ohio resolution to suggest term limits. It's been talked about at the federal level a couple, I think Trump has mentioned it a couple times. It's like an 80-20 issue.
Speaker: One of the few 80-20 issues left, I think. And when they go through some of the standouts in Congress, and Marcy Kaptur was one of them. her first She won her first election 1982. She is 79 years old.
Speaker: She is going, uh, she's been in office 42 years. She's won 22 reelections. She's under 22nd term.
Speaker: Oh, wow. Well, Chuck Schumer has 44. Pelosi has 37. Don't forget about, let's go. Um, yep. Uh, Republicans, Chuck Grassley, 50 years.
Speaker: And he's still in. Hal Rogers since 81. Yeah.
Speaker: So she is the longest woman ever to hold office. She beats Pelosi by quite a few years, actually. Five or six years. ah can can we can we Can we stop the but the career politicians, please, people?
Speaker: I don't know if term limits are... answer. i just don't know what else we're supposed to do. Get the money out. You know, I think it would be, I think it would be really a great idea because, well, it's, it's my idea. So it's great. Of course it's nothing it's not even my idea. I heard somebody else bring it up and I can't remember who brought it up, but for local politicians or districts,
Speaker: They get too much money from outside donors that aren't in the district. They should they should be limited to um getting donations or at least at least most of their donations from local your local area. So if you're in District 12, most of your donations should come from District 12.
Speaker: Yes, I think a lot of this. ah I personally, I think ahll like AOC, people like that, you you wouldn't have them in Congress for very long. They might win, but eventually they're going to lose because, you know most of her donations come from, a you know, all over the U.S., not even from her Brooklyn area or whatever burb she's in.
Speaker: and think it was explained to me once that a lot of this went downhill when it went to a, well, I guess the governors used to appoint senators, right? Was there something like that? there It wasn't, senators weren't directly voted on.
Speaker: The representatives would vote for the senators, I'm pretty sure. Is that what it was? Yeah. think so. You know what? I'm not 100%. It wasn't a direct vote like it is now. It wasn't on a ballot. It was,
Speaker: I want to say some other part of the, you you know, you had like, there might've been the the house and each state maybe be voted for the senators. I thought maybe it was a governor, but it could be either one. I thought it was the state house. would make sense. Yeah. Because they were our reps, right?
Speaker: Not even the state house. i it would have been, yeah, no, it would. Oh, you know what? It would have been the, it would have been the state reps of, uh, in federal government would have chosen the Senate. I'm, I'm about 90% sure on that.
Speaker: But my 90% could be like 20%. I don't know. Let me see if we can find it. 17th
Speaker: ah seventeenth Amendment voters have selected U.S. senators private voting 1913. year as the Federal Reserve. It doesn't say what happened that, but... same year as the federal reserve
Speaker: it doesn't say what happened after that but That's when it started. cause But you get a lot of federal, you get a lot of out so out-of-state money because you want, because control of the Senate is important. Control the House is important in then as a nation.
Speaker: So you get a lot of people going, oh, I'm in California, but I'm going to give to AOC because she's in New York. And I want New York to have that representation because I want the federal level have Democrats or Republicans to have control, so on so forth.
Speaker: So yeah, getting the money up, how? that's like how do you like i've we've I've talked about this. ah I've heard commentary on this. It's really hard. Individual state legislatures. Had to do what, though?
Speaker: U.S. senators were chosen by their individual state legislatures. Yeah, so the House then. Yeah. Seems way better. i don't know if it's like the state, you know, like your, the state government or the federal house members of your state, but I, I'm not sure it doesn't, it's not clear.
Speaker: I believe it was the state at the state level. That was, yeah, yeah. That's what I think. Cause it's not a national thing. You, it it never was a big deal. Most people didn't care what, who's, you know, they, they got voted on and that's your Senator was your Senator was, but you know, I don't know. That's, I've heard it explained to me. That's part of it. Yeah. Getting the money out is, is important because why should you go in and make $175,000 a year? then 25 later, you're worth $20 million. How that work? Yeah.
Speaker: twenty million dollars how does that work There's a lot of that, of course, but I i think it's more, ah to me, it's like just, I just think if you don't have that big money coming from around the around the US, you you have a harder time getting reelected. It it evens the playing field.
Speaker: Yes, that's there you go. that' That's a good point. It does even, because ah the person who's trying to get the incumbent out does not have that advantage. Most of the time will not have that at a that outside money. And a lot of times it's big money. It's big money.
Speaker: hundreds of thousands, of millions of dollars. So is this going to go anywhere? Probably not. No. Probably not. Very, very, I mean, keep hearing Trump bring it up every once a while about term limits and how you need need to have term limits, not just the president, but everybody.
Speaker: Yeah, but you know what? I'll tell you what. After, um if the midterms happen the way they usually happen, nothing's going to get passed and nothing's going to get passed before that either because everyone's out on the campaign trail.
Speaker: Yep. Yeah, there's a lot of time to pass, but yeah we'll see. And anyway, let's move on to the next thing here. We have Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that officers involved or officers are injured are covered by Marcy's Law.
Speaker: I was reading this article, and this is from where? This is, again, IdeaStream. IdeaStream. Yeah, the last one, sorry, last one from Term Limits was Ohio Press Network. Right. Everything's not from the IdeaStream this week, but when look at it, there's a lot from the IdeaStream.
Speaker: But, um... know if this is right. Go ahead. Talk about Yeah. So, well, that's why I said it the way I did, because that's the way they presented in the article. They'd never actually tell you that I can see what Marcy's law is.
Speaker: So I had look up what Marcy's law was. Marcy's law in Ohio is known as, ohio' is also known as the Ohio's Victim's Bill of Rights. It is a constitutional amendment that grants crime victims fundamental rights in the justice system, ensuring they are treated This is partially weird to me but because you figure this is already there, but this this amendment ensures they are treated with fairness and respect.
Speaker: It guarantees victims the right to be informed of their rights. I thought that was already a thing. to be Also to be protected from the accused and to be heard at key stages of criminal cases, such as during the plea plea negotiations or sentencing.
Speaker: That makes sense. The law also provides rights to restitution and to privacy. Passed in 2017. I think it was enacted in 2018.
Speaker: So what they're doing now is a lawsuit. Well, here's some background from from the idea stream.
Speaker: Oh, there it is.
Speaker: The Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that a law meant to protect the identities of crime victims can apply to on-duty police officers. The case stems from a shootout between a suspect and Columbus police on Interstate 70 two years ago.
Speaker: Following the shooting, Columbus redacted the names of an injured officer and seven others who responded to the scene. The city claimed Marcy's law shielded their identities as crime victims. The Columbus Dispatch then sued to force the city to release the names and other public records.
Speaker: Columbus's Fraternal Order of Police President Brian Steele says the ruling is a major win for law enforcement. I relived that incident every day. i responded to that incident. I talked to the officers involved all the time.
Speaker: They were 100% victim of crimes. You don't all of a sudden not become a victim of crime simply because the uniform you wear. The dispatch says in a statement, the court greenlit overreach and reduce the transparency that is vital to preserve the community's trust in law enforcement. George Shokok, WOSU News.
Speaker: Something about that doesn't seem right. I'm understanding it like this. Tell me if if this is how you're understanding it. If a police officer shows up to domestic dispute, let's say.
Speaker: The guy pulls a gun. Fires. fires Shoots a guy, shoots a cop in the leg and he fires back and kills the guy. Is now the cop a victim? Yes.
Speaker: That doesn't make sense to me. He's he's just doing his job. So now there can't really be an investigation? No, that's not what they're saying is if you pull a public record, if you want to look at that case and see who was involved in it, those names will be redacted if they were injured.
Speaker: So you if you had 20 cops show up and five, one it doesn't have to be shot, I don't think. it Right. You could could have broke his leg. You could have twisted his ankle. I can imagine if you were injured, it says.
Speaker: and So if you had 10 cops there and four of them were injured, you can redact those four names. That makes no sense to me. I don't know what extent. i Maybe I'm going too far with it as far as twisting an ankle, but it says if you're injured you if you were hurt and in the...
Speaker: the the the process of a crime being, you know. So why though? there is He's a cop or she, she, whatever. Yeah. They're a cop. Yeah.
Speaker: They're a cop, right? So shouldn't they like, I mean, we pay their salary. Yeah. So i I, yeah, I don't, I don't think, I think I'm not sure why they're fighting so hard. Why, why is this such a. It sounds like it makes things a little easier to cover up if they need to.
Speaker: It could. yeah I mean, you could you could you know break a nail and then have to be covered and be redacted. But it doesn't it won't stop them from being sued or or anything like that. It just keeps their name private in any public records requests. so way i guess so ah So a newspaper can't write about them. Yes. So if a newspaper asks or a citizen asks for it, the names will be redacted and you won't know who it is because they get injured. I think there's that this law was not intended for that.
Speaker: That's one the problems people are having with it. and And a lot of the law to me is like, duh, like ensuring they are treated with fairness and respect the victim. Like, first of all, don't how you do that, but you weren't being treated. Ensuring they are guarantees victims rights to be informed of their rights.
Speaker: What? Isn't that called like, that's like already, but you know, some of it like, well, being informed of keys, like when they're going to be sentenced or when they're going to be when they're doing a plea deal and being able to have some saying that, that makes sense.
Speaker: But that was never intended for the cops. That's kind of part of the problem. And it, it, to me, it's a great avenue for abuse. If something goes wrong on ah on a crime scene,
Speaker: I mean, you claim injury and now you don't, you know, your name's not in public. Right. you're You're a public official. You're a public servant. There's a, but the Supreme Court says, and they're covered.
Speaker: So like those cops in Cleveland, those, uh, you know, the sheriff department that has those troopers, but juicy, but juicy shooting out of the car window while he's, yeah, whatever. I'm just, I'm just bringing it up.
Speaker: So if those guys claimed injury, they did their names, we wouldn't know their names. Right. If they could have said, know, I got a concussion in the car accident when I hit the other person that I just killed.
Speaker: Why didn't they though? can't, you can't, well at the, at the time. Yeah. It wasn't, the lawsuit was still going through maybe. I don't know. Oh yeah. Okay. Maybe they don't know about it yet. Maybe they will soon.
Speaker: I don't know that kind of stuff, but that's exactly where you would see that there's no transparency. Yeah, this I'm not sure if I like this. No, I don't like it. when there's Sorry, when there's less transparency, there's more shenanigans every time, in my opinion.
Speaker: Seems like it. And this just opens a door for it. and And that's why I'm going, why were they fighting so hard? for like
Speaker: Really, the everything else is fine except for the redactors of the names, it feels like to me. like you should I'm sorry, you're a public servant. you you real I'm sorry, you I think you kind of gave up that right. So let's say a cop gets shot.
Speaker: And he shoots back and kills somebody. Now, now i guess, can the family, maybe they won't be able to find out his name and then they can sue him, I guess. But what about, ah you know, maybe it protects them from somebody attacking them?
Speaker: As far as the cop, like, well, you try to look Like a but like somebody just trying to... Yeah. i I could see, but but what I guess my point is, got 20 officers on ah on a scene and a few of them get injured, but the rest of them will be in the report. If you pull, if the, if, uh, idea stream pulls a public, uh, public information about that incident, there's going to be, you know, 17 out of the 20 are going to names are going to be in there, but the three that got injured aren't.
Speaker: So if you're in a shootout with somebody, let's go to the extreme time. Let's say there's a horribly racist cop in a shootout with an Indian.
Speaker: and Was he driving a truck? ah Well, that's funny that's going to be more funny later on. um But maybe, probably, most likely, because that seems to be a good avenue for them.
Speaker: But you're not going to be able to see his name. If he gets shot by the other person while in the shootout, right you're not going to be able to see who that what person was.
Speaker: i don't I don't like that. I'm sorry. I get i get the you want to be private, but I think you think kind of give up some of those rights when you become a police officer, when you become a public servant. Something fishy to me.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. It seems there could be great avenue for abuse and for corruption. You to keep an eye out on that that. Yeah, there's plenty of that going on already.
Speaker: I don't know what... Here's the problem, I think, is from the Supreme Court's side of it, the law is what's law doesn't say no police officers or no public servants or whatever. It says victims of a crime.
Speaker: The court decided that if you're shot in the line of duty from an assailant, that you are you've been ah you've had a crime committed against you, and you are now a victim. So according to the law, that was where the case kind of lied in.
Speaker: Is the cop a victim in ah in a shootout? According the Supreme Court of Ohio, yes.
Speaker: I mean, in a way they are, yes, but you put yourself in that position. I don't know. There's a little nuance there, I guess. i guess yeah So i think I think they're missing part of that.
Speaker: And again, just keep going to it. Why you pushing so hard for this? I never heard a cop say I was a victim. Yeah. yeah and I mean, if somebody comes to his front door and, you know, attacks him, then the then he's a victim when he's off duty.
Speaker: Why? What has happened in the past? Is there something that's happened in the past that they want to fix? I don't know. they're not break They don't bring it up. They just say, no, they're a victim of a crime. We should be able to hide our identity.
Speaker: I don't know. Unless you can point to some some reason for it. I don't i don't get it.
Speaker: So I don't know. Let's keep an eye on that shenanigans afoot, I think.
Speaker: Give them the benefit doubt for a short period of time. Oh, crap. I totally forgot. We we got two stories, and I didn't even do the... Greater corner. We're in the middle of it, but they're just all over the place.
Speaker: Got a couple more we're going to go through here. That's, you know, voter ID was kind of oil another resolution for term limits, which was kind of hu nothing going to happen with that. But this one, the OSHA, the Ohio High School Sports Association has voted to allow high schoolers to
Speaker: sign contracts and get paid for the name imaging likeness. And the Ohio GOP says, hold on a second. Not so fast.
Speaker: So basically in the past, ah students in Ohio who could get endorsement deals because they're really good at sports were not allowed to sign it and still be considered an amateur. And they they've the and and just not too long ago, actually, they voted to keep this ban in place, the Ohio High School Association.
Speaker: But just recently in the last week or so, they voted again and nearly... ah Yeah, it's dramatic shift from 2022 when 67% of schools voted against allowing name and image and likeness deals to 79% voting for it just two years later, three years later.
Speaker: And was 447 to 247 schools abstained the vote. Interesting. Interesting. on two hundred and forty seven schools abstained from the vote ah interesting So basically, they they're saying, you know, let's let us, let us, we can't stop a kid, can't stop a person from making money off their face and their name.
Speaker: And the Ohio GOP says, ah no, you can't. We don't want you to.
Speaker: It's kind of funny because it' is the past isn't it legal in 44 states? 44 or 42 other states. Yeah. And let's see. We have a little ah little clip here from Ms. Morgan Trowell.
Speaker: Trowell. I'm never going to get it right. Maybe eventually. here's a Here's maybe a a hint on why this this member of the GOP, which I'll get his name, which is...
Speaker: oh Oh, Adam Bird, Republican on New Richmond, sponsored the bill. The state's high schoolers can't participate in name image and likeness deals like basketball superstar Marcus Johnson, as they bring up in the story, who has had a lot of offers but hasn't been able to
Speaker: take up those offers and sign them because of the thing. Now he can, but within a day, this guy put the legislation. So see what he has to say. But you may may be able to figure out why of these people are against it.
Speaker: Earning money is not what Ohio high school sports is about. Less than 24 hours after the announcement, Southwest Ohio State Rep Adam Byrd proposed a bill to ban NIL deals for high school student athletes. Our sports to be about character development and leadership and fitness and social connections and all of those kinds of things and not um creating even more pressure for our students. Bird says that students shouldn't be earning more than coaches and referees and that the athletes focus shouldn't be on endorsements. When you're using public money to create gymnasiums and stadiums and weight rooms, we should be using that public ah publicly paid for facility for those kinds of things and not for the athlete to be earning NIL money.
Speaker: oo ooh Now do the Browns. Ooh, ooh, now do the the the team we used to call the Indians. Ooh, let's do the Cavs now. can you can Can they make money off of the public buildings that tax-funded people have put in?
Speaker: Or do they have to work for free too? I thought that was interesting. And yeah, they I think there's just some um some coaches and and referees that are pissed. there to kids Some kids may make more money than they do.
Speaker: I don't know. What are your thoughts, Tom?
Speaker: And we talked about this. I i think, you know if they can make money, they can make money. that's That's my thing. is like how can you you How can you tell people? No, you can't. So what if what if some basketball star was walking down the street and this this high-end model recruiter sees him on the street or her or whatever and says, you are beautiful. I want to hire you for...
Speaker: you know, for your name, image, and likeness, not even knowing what what kind of sports star they are, that the kid couldn't do it.
Speaker: I guess that that is an extreme It's little bit different. Extreme part, but that's, they they are not a allowed to sign a name, image, and likeness deal. and They weren't until now. I don't know if that, does that mean just if the ah company wanted you to do it because you're sports?
Speaker: Because then they could just say, oh, we're doing it because he's pretty.
Speaker: So how can, how do you, how can somebody? That's different thing though. I know it's a different thing. That's my point.
Speaker: Yeah. well Okay. So if you're a sports person playing sports, can you sign a deal to be a model for a clothing company when, it if it has nothing to do with your sports and how do you prove that? Well, that does, that's different though.
Speaker: I mean, I don't. what do you mean? You're just hiring a model. I know, but if that model happens to play Ohio sports. Are they wearing my jersey? Does it matter? In the shoot? it does As far as I understand, it doesn't matter. They are not allowed to sell their name, image, and likeness and still be considered an and But you're not selling your name. You're just you're just modeling for Abercrombie, let's say. out is Are they even around anymore? But, ah you know, you're not selling your name. You're not selling your jersey. Some your images and your likeness. though It's one of those three. It's not all three. It could be either one of those, right? Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. I get, I see where you're coming from that. Yeah. This is the an edge case. I get it. I'm just saying what, so you, you, can you not sell, can you not do anything? Cause you play sports that has to do with making money off your image.
Speaker: I think, yeah, no, I, I see what you're saying. I just think it's a, it's a different thing. it It is. I just don't, I don't know. like i But from what I'm reading, from all the information that has been put in front of me, it doesn't specify. it only, you you can't sign a deal that only has to do with sports. It's just, you can't sell your name, image, or likeness in Ohio and still be considered.
Speaker: So I don't know. To me, I'm assuming, yes, you can't do that. Like if your kid had a modeling deal, you you might be restricted from signing that too. I don't know. I don't think so. Modeling deals different.
Speaker: You're selling something else. Your image. Yeah, but you're selling something else for somebody. Right. But i but but but your image doesn't, it's not the same.
Speaker: How is it different though? I get i get it's not, but how how is how was selling your image and likeness on a poster with a basketball in your hand different than so selling your image and likeness just because you're wearing a a pair of jeans or whatever?
Speaker: It's the same. You're selling your image a likeness. And according to what I see, I don't you're to. Yeah. but I don't know. i'm not saying ah I'm not saying it's a fact. I'm just i a asking the question. but i don't Yeah, I know.
Speaker: you don't You don't think they would restrict them from doing that? No. But what tells you that? That's my question.
Speaker: Well, why were you chosen to be a model? Because of your sports? Yeah, well, you're pretty. You don't have to be playing sports to be pretty. Right. But if you're pretty and playing sports, can you sell, can you just be a model?
Speaker: Because I guess the whole thing was if you could do that, then what's the holdup? Just just say you're you're writing a kid a check because he's pretty. know. Yeah, they could have done that. That's why saying. Until they start putting him his school jersey and... That I could see them saying no to.
Speaker: You're not allowed to wear school colors or school logo. Right. That I can see because you'd you'd have to get permission from the school for that. But i to me, it's bigger than, to me, I think it's bigger than just because you're in sports, you can't sell it.
Speaker: If you happen to be in sports, will it also affect you? How do you, but to me, it boils down to how do you tell a kid or their parents what they can or can't do with their kid's face name? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not arguing with you. It's a weird comparison.
Speaker: It's an edge case for sure. Yeah. but I don't know. I don't think you should be able to tell anybody what they can do with that. And that's weird that we have a Congress person in Ohio. Well, I guess it's not weird.
Speaker: It's probably right along the lines of it. And really we've got the next quick story, which, which I just wanted to bring up only for one point, which is the Ohio requires,
Speaker: New bill in Ohio will require cardiac screening for student athletes.
Speaker: I mean, why? Why? Sudden death and syndrome. sudden death's Sudden heart attack syndrome, whatever they're calling it. Did they call it sudden death in the article or in the report?
Speaker: That's what they call it. Oh, I don't know. something don't know about this report. i know that's- Sudden cardiac death. Prevent sudden cardiac death. That's that's what they're- But they do but also mention that most of these things are genetic and can't really be tested.
Speaker: But just in case, we're going to test them anyway. And really, this kind of piles on to the previous two. Now we've got three, four laws possibly- in our state about high school sports.
Speaker: du I mean, there's nothing better. Yes. That's that's why. Thank you. Thank you. That's kind of why. but And that's the point of the next one is like, why is it your business? What I do with my name, image or likeness? i I get the down downsides of it with sports and all that stuff, but it's not your concern. It's not up to you. It's mine. It's my kid. It's my, it's my kid's name, image, and likeness, not yours, but the hell out.
Speaker: Now I got it. Now, if my, your kid wants to do ah high school sports, you gotta have, he's gotta to have a f freaking EKG or something done. Oh, and if there's any abnormalities, we'll have more tests. But Hey, how about, uh, Hmm.
Speaker: who do you get paid from? Who's paying your wages? What kind of lobbying is going through with the testing? Who donated to that politician? yeah Yeah. The Ohio Testing Association of some sorts.
Speaker: And that was, you know, that's kind of, I saw that it was kind of in sitting there. Could be big pharma. Hey, you know what? This test wasn't perfect. You can take this pill. That's what I took out of the report. Like, well, you know, testing really doesn't show much, but if there's any abnormalities, it could mean more tests.
Speaker: i was like, oh, oh, wait. Oh, now I got it. You can play this sport if you take this pill. and And why all of a sudden is everybody so worried about sudden cardiac death with children?
Speaker: Hmm. Let's leave that one out there for everybody to figure out what they have to do with. Anywho, so, you know, like like the guy said in the report, like the one that father said, hey, if my kid can make a couple extra grand, it'll help with the groceries.
Speaker: Name agent like this. Go out and sell it. But the GOP is going to tell you no. We'll see if the bill goes through. I don't know. It's a Republican bill, so good chance at
Speaker: Probably gets passed. Something that DeWine would probably want to sign. He likes getting involved in sports. He's, a on and on a side note, he's a he's against gambling, except he made a deal with the Michigan governor on the Ohio State-Michigan game.
Speaker: What? Oh. But he doesn't like gambling. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's for publicity. Yeah. Well, yes, of course it is. Um, actually one bar says if they lose free drinks for everybody, so that's, he's got a lot right Damn. or somewhere So it's at the my ex feed is just packed with, cause it's that day. Oh, is it?
Speaker: I think today is it. Yeah. Right around Thanksgiving usually. Well, next if, uh, well, let us know what you, uh, what you think of that, uh, that story or the other story we talked about.
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Speaker: It's a little rundown of our stories. You can follow along, but tell us what you think. if you've got somebody who could possibly sell their name, image, or likeness, shoot us an email, quickerrivercast.com. Tell us if I've got any input on this.
Speaker: Interested to see what you think and think if it's right or wrong, if we should keep doing it or not, or is GOP on to something here? are they just overstepping it? You know, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker: Just an email, cricketrivercast.com. Thank you for listening. Really appreciate your time.
Speaker: Next we have, well, every vote counts, Tom. Every vote counts. Because there are five recounts, well, there were five recounts, actually still got five recounts, five recounts in just Kailahoga County alone.
Speaker: and it And a spoiler alert, in Cleveland, the socialist wins. Socialist wins. So Cleveland's got five races that are super close. So I think it's within a, triggers recounts within a half a percent.
Speaker: Board elections will meet to clarify the results.
Speaker: So there's five races, one of which is the city council race with incumbent, And it's the the new guy has won by, I think, eight votes, six or eight votes, something like that.
Speaker: Or was six votes, then it went to nine. So now the incumbent has conceded. So the city, so it's Ward 12 seat, and and and this is a new seat. And let me go through some of the, I have a couple of clips here.
Speaker: Go through City of Cleveland. This is new Channel 5. A little bit of what's going on. Pending a recount, 29-year-old Tanmay Shah is the winner in the Ward 12 city council race with a razor-thin victory over incumbent Danny Kelly.
Speaker: Shah, a Democratic socialist, says she'll bring a new brand of politics to City Hall. Didn't even blink an eye when he said Democratic Socialist, by the way. just Just Democratic Socialist. We'll continue.
Speaker: ah what but I like how they use the word Democrat. Yes. Well, they put that in front of socialists like that. Like these, some, one of these here don't belong. Yeah. When you vote your way into it, you're not going to vote your way out of it. Well, let's just, we'll see what he's all about. Tom, I mean, you might be able guess what he's all about. Christian Moran went one-on-one with him tonight.
Speaker: Shaw defeated Councilman Danny Kelly by just nine votes, taking over Ward 12, which will stretch from the Lindale border to Edgewater. His win comes during a shifting era for council, as population loss will shrink the body from 17 members to 15 next term.
Speaker: So Lindale up to Edgewater. is that the. Is it my my wrong is that like in my upscale part of Cleveland? I don't know.
Speaker: i think I thought Lindale was like a nicer part of Cleveland, wasn't it? And then up at towards Edgewater and stuff up there on the lake. i don't know. Yeah, you got you got all those big houses. Yeah, so things are changing because the city's shrinking. And this guy, well, do you want to guess what this guy's platform is all about?
Speaker: Giving stuff away? Well, yes, but they don't say that cause that's not popular. It is. From the first day of our campaign, we've been really laser focused having affordable housing, affordable groceries and reliable city services.
Speaker: That's what I'm excited to bring for Ward 12 and to the council. Shah, an Indian immigrant, has called the Jefferson neighborhood home for more than a decade. In his career, he's been a union organizer, a lawyer and a truck driver. And he says that community organizer perspective he plans to bring to City Hall.
Speaker: ah So, yeah, as you guessed it right, affordable housing, affordable groceries, good city services, all those things that they promise every election. And then the next election, they promise the same thing because they've yet to ever come through with affordable groceries, housing or so or good city services.
Speaker: But I think, and and let's go to the end of the report here. And it's very important that you get this downtown. It's very important that you understand what this is all about.
Speaker: We've always been focused on affordable housing, affordable groceries, and reliable city services. And our win is just a testament to how desperately people wanna see these changes come about. So that's where my focus will be for the next four years, and I'm really excited.
Speaker: I'm only 29 years old. He's already worn so many hats. and Now he's wearing another. Okay. Christian Moran here in the studio. Thank you. Yes. The socialist hat. That's what he's wearing.
Speaker: Oh, look at him. Only 29 years old. He's all over. He's so many hats. Yeah. Lawyer, community organizer. Wouldn't running a campaign, make yourself consider yourself a community organizer because you're kind of organizing.
Speaker: ah So i'm trying to look at the map here, trying to, From Edgewater to Lindale. Yeah, it's like a a few, i don't know. it's Lindale's like on the board, off of 71, right? Yeah, so that border is 71 and Lindale all the way up to the lake. Oh, I see it. and Like a ah sort of a wreck.
Speaker: Yeah, you got some sketchy neighborhoods through. Yeah, yeah. ah What what but kind of It's sort of like on the border of ah Lakewood too, right? Yeah, I think so. Yes. yeah Yeah. But it's a new, it's, they've redistricted. I mean, nobody he was complaining about this redistricting apparently, but they, cause they've shrunken down from 17 to 15. So they had to recombine a couple of districts. So this is,
Speaker: I guess ah maybe he's not an incumbent, but it maybe I think maybe was the guy that was there beforehand or something like that. But he's what made me pull this story. Because i really i was just going to talk about, hey, the there's some close races in Ohio. and you know Every vote counts, you know provided that you go to when you go to the booth, there's more than one person for that position up on the ballot. But there's a picture of him in this IdeaStream article. And the caption is, Cleveland-based attorney Shahan Tamney, whatever his name is talks with idea stream Connor Morris on the pro Palestinian protest on campus of case Western reserve university in the spring of 2024.
Speaker: Yeah. He's got the whole scarf on and all this stuff. Yeah. So he's a, And like, oh, really? so then I looked at the, yeah, it didn't take more than a second to go, oh, yeah, the Democratic Socialist one. And then there's Newstown 5, just, or WKYC.
Speaker: No, Newstown 5, I think it was, yeah. And there, oh, no, it's News 3. I want to make sure I get the right. Oh, so many hats. What a great guy.
Speaker: So many hats. ah Speaking of Democratic Socialists,
Speaker: City of Cleveland Council wrestles with Brown's settlement deal. They just, they want to screw this up, don't they? So Brown's want to give the city of Cleveland over the next few years, not all at one time, a total of about $100 million. dollars Some of it in cash, some of it in investment, so on and so forth. But the main thing they're trying to get through city council, and this is, we're to talk about this more next week because there's another story just came up that is along the same lines, the lakefront. But they,
Speaker: they're They're not sure if they want to. So city council has to vote to, to, for the next step to approve this deal so that the Taslims can give the city $25 million. dollars And I think what they're going to start to do is prepping the site to tear the stadium down. That's a big, the big thing for the city of Cleveland is they don't have to get stuck with paying for the ah demolition of that site. Yeah. I think it's can be tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker: Has them paying for the teardown basically. Yeah, $100 million. dollars It's a lot of us to tear it down, but it was also like location prep. And then they're going to some investment deal or something, anything. Anyway, but City of Cleveland is like, well, I'm not sure. We're not sure if we want the money.
Speaker: And Mayor Bibb's like, dude, like, if the sooner we get this settled, sooner we can start, you know, figuring out what we're going to do, which is is is a... You know what? I rag on Bibb, but boy, he's got a lot of problems there too.
Speaker: Yeah. Only part of them are his him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, you know, I, I, I don't like, I don't care for him. I know but credit what credits do, right? I mean, Hey, cause we don't just, we disagree on most things. doesn' it So they, they want a $25 million dollars cash by December, uh, by December 1st.
Speaker: So they have until Monday, right? Yeah. Monday to vote on it. And then they're out for the year unless they have a special, um, emergency council meeting, whatever, to vote on it.
Speaker: So Monday's the last day unless they do that. And then, that so $25 million dollars in cash, and then $30 million dollars to tear down the sixteen so existing stadium. 25 million in payments from 2029 to 2033, and then $20 million dollars towards community benefits, whatever that is.
Speaker: That's the totals of $100 million. dollars The big part is they want to start, the big part is, I think we may have found out part of the problem is the city council may want to, um how do we say this?
Speaker: Determine where this money goes. It's $25 million. Hmm. Yeah. That seems, seems sketchy to me.
Speaker: Trying to find the, ah the actual paragraph where it says, City council is, have the one I'll copy and paste it in there.
Speaker: But it is a city leaders are debating on where some of that money should really go. That's kind of the whole. So try to get the bank accounts ready so they can slide, you know, hundred of grand here, hundred grand there. Maybe my opinion, allegedly possibly probably not going happen.
Speaker: Yeah. But I'm like, what what are you waiting for? They're moving anyway.
Speaker: Take the money and run. what the hell? i think I think you can give the credit to Bibb for even getting getting this far with it. I think that's why i I was giving him some credit for this, and but he's getting roadblocked by his own ah counsel there. Well, it wasn't their idea. Maybe that's part of lot of times it's just that They're just so trying to figure out how to skim.
Speaker: So we'll see. on it Council will get $50 million from Lakefront Overtime. The first $25 million right away. I guess they're trying to figure out where to put all the money.
Speaker: Where do we put all that $25 million? dollars And on the same note is our last story for the ah for this for our regular list here is we had talked about, i don't know, a few weeks ago probably, one of the Good Things segment, I think it was, Ohio Spotlight, I think it was that.
Speaker: They were, those American cruise lines was going to make Ohio or Cleveland a a permanent or a, a cruise stop, cruise ship stop. Right. And not just like a visit here, but a actually a destination point from beginning and end for a couple of different cruises throughout the Great Lakes.
Speaker: And we brought up, cause I went cruises through Great Lakes actually sounds cool, but I didn't even know they had them. Well, We have to turn this story around because the American cruise line removes Cleveland from the stop in its 2026 Great Lakes voyages.
Speaker: And any, I mean, pi I think you may have read the article, but according to the American cruise lines, the reason was they were unable to find a suitable docking location in Cleveland for 2026. Because city of Cleveland has yet to develop the lakefront in the last 50 years.
Speaker: Oh, gosh. So, and I think we had commented, I even commented when i when we talked about the spotlight and I looked up online on YouTube some reviews on Great Lakes Tours. There is a stop in Cleveland. it's not a that's an area a beginning or ending, but it's just a one-day stop.
Speaker: And the first thing I noticed was they park right next to the Brown Stadium. o And so it's Erie Brown Stadium. On the other side of the dock is like warehouses and gravel piles and stuff like that.
Speaker: So you got to walk to an industrial area to get to a sidewalk so you can walk into Cleveland. So they, I'm like, you announced something before you even looked at it. First of all, it's kind of like, hey, you realize you were dealing Cleveland, right? Yeah.
Speaker: ah but they've decided to change their mind until there's a suitable dock that it's not, you know, you're going to have to dodge forklifts and tow motors and all that stuff.
Speaker: You walk up from the cruise ship. It's really not what happens when you go and get off a cruise ship. I don't know. So they've just kind moved. can put some vending people out there selling crappy jewelry. Yeah. Hot dog stands.
Speaker: A couple of hot dog stands, a taco stand. Um, yeah, actually that's where they can sell their chief Wahoo gear out there. yeah all So yeah, they've kind of pulled that back. And again, it it's tight end. We'll have another, we'll probably touch on this a little bit next week too. Cause like i said, there's another story that I pulled for next week. That's similar to this. That's do with, with the airport, of course.
Speaker: And, uh, i yeah I guess give Bibb credit where due. He's trying to develop it, whether it's going to happen or not. It doesn't seem like it. Maybe we're seeing some of the problems with a but Cleveland and the reason Lakefront is still the way it is.
Speaker: But hey, Democratic Socialist is going to be in there soon, so not to worry. Not to worry. I'm sure there be lots of safe spaces and stuff.
Speaker: So on to our last segment here, which of course,
Speaker: And to round off the good, I don't know if we talked about this before, but this story may be a couple of weeks old now. I think, I think it's about a, it's a week old week old, but on the good, the good side of it, ah Tim Ryan is not running for Ohio governor.
Speaker: Leaving the door wide Wide open for Amy Acton to slide right in there and win the primary. Apparently she's polling very well.
Speaker: i keep hearing on X. I keep saying she's polling very well. Ahead of Vivek, supposedly. okay Yeah. select Selective polling numbers. poll But, ah i you know, we we need to do a an episode where we just talk about the governor race.
Speaker: Because there is some... I guess there's some ah surprising takes on Vivek. Oh, yeah. I've heard. Surprising from from my standpoint. that ah so you know When I heard we had some listeners send me some messages on X, and i was i was like, okay, no kidding.
Speaker: This is how they're thinking about him. Fill me in. Yeah. No, I think i think we need to do a deeper dive on each candidate. but i've heard I've heard some things, too, about... Well, some of the, you know some of the the I guess, criticisms scandalous stuff he did with his business.
Speaker: Okay, ah this is my favorite one. I had a listener call him ObamaDot. oh Basically, he's nothing more than Obama, just because he's just a smooth talker and selling you He is a smooth talker.
Speaker: Yes. Definitely a smooth talker. I think there is a little bit more substance to him than Obama. But um per this person thinks he's going to lose Amy.
Speaker: And he's, I'm trying to think of his age. I would put him into an older millennial. i mean, women.
Speaker: Oh, I think most sensible women. Not that there's many. Sorry, ladies. ah ah they're gonna They're not going to vote for Amy Acton. Okay. I mean, you said that about Kamala, too, and then they voted for her in droves.
Speaker: Did they? i mean, it if she it was yeah i was the only... i don't know what single woman that voted for... oh Well, I can't say that, but I can probably know one, I think. Pardon of me? I think I know of one that you you know that would vote for her.
Speaker: Yes, but I can't think of another, and I talked to... guys at work and stuff and all their wives who normally talk boat. Um, I wouldn't say they normally vote, uh, Democrat, but they definitely lean that way.
Speaker: Even the younger ones. They didn't vote for Kamala because she was crazy. Right. But if you look at the exit and all that stuff, there's only one category where Trump didn't either win or increase by a good margin. That's women. He actually, the only category he he lost votes in the last election was to women.
Speaker: Are you sure about that? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. i don't He did not win the women woman vote. Well, know he didn't win it. I think it got worse. and don't think it got better. don't know. but like It could be wrong. could be wrong. Regardless, it was the only was the only one he didn't either increase or or win outright. can see not increasing, but I have a feeling ah he didn't get worse.
Speaker: ah Maybe. I it could be wrong. But i thought I thought it was the only one that dropped. Everything else went up or he won. that go I could be wrong. But regardless, I think even the last election, this this last one, we just came up this off-year election. i I think they were also saying, ah, appeal the 16th.
Speaker: 19th. 19th. Sorry. 19th. Which I agree. Get rid of it. Even and my wife agrees. We're crying out loud.
Speaker: I don't know. I could see. I could see. I can see a lot of them going, yeah, it's still better than Vivek. But I don't know. We'll see. i mean, so listen to her talk for a few minutes. You would hopefully not. Yeah, that's the thing. You can't.
Speaker: But you know who's going to watch a debate between them two? yeah can Can you imagine that? Oh my God. I would consider myself politically involved besides the show.
Speaker: And I don't think I've ever watched a governor's debate. This one I have to, because this one i will this one's going to be a total, ah it's going to go off the tracks, man.
Speaker: I mean... I'm not sure where you're coming. I mean, you may be right, though, because if you do recall, I think i think think Amy Acton was described as this.
Speaker: Like the greatest thing we had in Ohio. Remember? so You might be right. she might They might be right. they She might be winning. they um Not you might right, but they might. I don't think so, but ah but tim I think the reason Tim dropped out is, or just decided not to because I don't think Democrats have a chance. Yeah.
Speaker: I think that's that's, if he had a chance to win, I think he would take this take the chance. And and you kind of see that as keeps going on and on and on. People keep asking them, you really don't want to. You really don't think you can win. So otherwise you probably would.
Speaker: But that is part of the good news segment, good things segment, because you don't have to listen to him talk too much. He'll just be off to the side. You know, another thing is that ah she's raised 1.3%
Speaker: 5 million so far. And I think Vivek is up to almost 10 million at this point. Yeah. So, yeah, that's, uh, that's cause he's a evil capitalist.
Speaker: Next on the good things list of things that are good is the news channel five story, redefining retail, small businesses team up for hyper local market, shared the wealth inside men or mall.
Speaker: So this is a story about a person who started a open up, an open spot, because i'm assuming there's many in the malls now. And i think a year or two ago started this whole, let's get some local producers or, you know, it's more like, it's almost like a little craft fair.
Speaker: lot of local creators or producers of stuff to get them, ah you know, into one place where people in a mall can go shop instead of just the online stores. And I guess it was such a huge hit that they opened, they kept the store open all year.
Speaker: And this year they've expanded to this spot next door because that one happens to be open too. And they've expanded it for the holidays. And you can put in you can you submit your your goods, your wares or whatever, and put um you have a little spot in a store at a mall.
Speaker: I think this a bad idea. what do you think?
Speaker: No, it's great. Yeah. That's pretty cool. It makes me actually want to go see. I mean, I'm probably not going to drive the men and go see this, but you never know. But it might be some cool stuff in there. It felt like when they were going through the story, almost like it's a mini um art fair or something.
Speaker: You walk through and you've got somebody many making cutting boards and then you got somebody with canvases over here and that kind stuff. But those places are nice for Christmas gifts.
Speaker: Yeah, i don't I haven't been to the Great Lakes Mall in a very long time. I i remember when I was younger, I'd i'd go there. ah that was ah That was a great mall. I hope they're kind of keeping up maintenance and all that compared to other malls I've seen. hope so.
Speaker: so It was one of the newer ones around that time, probably. It was newer at the time, and it was also it it it was bigger than any other mall at the time. Yeah, definitely was big. So they've got all kinds of stuff there. Go check it out.
Speaker: Got the link in the show notes. And they've got throughout the holidays, special special events and raffles and all kinds of stuff to to get people involved. But if you're looking for Christmas shopping, for some unique gifts, and if you're sick of ordering off Amazon, well, get off your butt, go to the mall and check out what they got there from some local people.
Speaker: Support the local economy. And that checks that one off the list. Local model. Now, the next one, I'm curious. This is a local, it's a local band that you had put up there? It's a local artist. She goes by Anita Keys.
Speaker: Her name is Anita Herchog. And, but ah if you look her up on Spotify under ah Anita Keys, all one word, she's put out a new Christmas song.
Speaker: If you check the link in the show notes in the blog, you go to the scene article. There's actually a link there you click on. It'll take you right to the Spotify. Yeah. The song is called winter time.
Speaker: Yeah. I, I, I think actually the song is, is good. is I'm not going to jam tune that much, but it's, it's a seems like a good song. about her life growing up in Cleveland. says I just don't know if it's a Christmas song.
Speaker: I think it just reminds her of that time. Yeah, it's called Wintertime. Yeah. But they're calling in the article, she finally released a Christmas song, and i so I listened to it. I'm like, ooh, new Christmas music. let You can always use use a little new Christmas music, a little bit on new Christmas music, but not very Christmasy. i I set it aside, the story aside, just because it promotes ah i know i'm a local artists. I'm not trying to throw shade. The song, in my opinion, were you know. yeah but ah It's okay. You can see that she has something there, but it's not my opinion.
Speaker: I was hoping for something Christmassy. You know, I was, they said Christmas music and I'm thinking it's going to be at least something about tree. But yeah, it's cool. see but I don't know if all Christmas songs are like that, but, uh, that's what, that's why it's hard. so hard to put one out.
Speaker: The last one that hit was, I think a song by, um, well, Mariah Carey was probably the last one. And I think last year,
Speaker: ah Wham! had a couple top one or top 10 hits with one of their Christmas songs. I forget what it was called. But it was put was put out in 1984.
Speaker: nineteen eightyfour so oh yeah. chris Why it came back, I don't know. It might have been in a movie or something. don't know. think because i we were coming home from getting the treaty last night, and i was like, you know, I asked Siri to play some Christmas music, and the first song was Wham! Wham!
Speaker: Oh, really? Yeah. yeah Yeah. I don't know why that got popular again. Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's not what I expected. And I, i pressed forward in my 15. I was like, wait, no, go back. I want to hear that. i was like, what?
Speaker: So somewhere on social media, somewhere that she's, I think she's heard it before. I just it wasn't sure. Cause we've played it in a mix. I'm sure. It's listening to generic Christmas. she's like quite Christmas music. But I don't think, uh, I was like, I didn't know this song.
Speaker: ah But yeah, good good local artist. And she's got a lot of stuff on Spotify, so check it out. Anita Keys.
Speaker: i think i think that's I think that's show 37, Tom. I think we got it all down, didn't we? I got everything checked off. Wait, one more check.
Speaker: New Christmas music. Oh, yeah. Subscribe and subscribe.
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