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Crooked River Cast Show 36
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- The Epstein List!!!
- SNAP followup with Diane.
- Healthcare subsidies set to expire.
- Ohio lawmakers approve a “catch all bill” to correct budget and what else?
- Ohio bill HB 251 to regulate drone usage for police.
- How to talk to your racist MAGA uncle.
- Property tax legislation overload. Wonder why?
- The GOP is still messing with marijuana.
- Ohio bill would remove Hep B from Pre-K vax list.
- NEO says no to new taxes in last election. But did they?
- Lorain pushing back on “Mega Site”.
- Your license plate is GAY!
Good things:
- Bernie update.
- Horse drawn carriage parade.
- Gingerbread contest.
- Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! What are you thankful for?
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Transcript
Introduction and Local Events
00:00:12
Speaker
Hello and thank you for listening to the Crooked Rivercast. I am Robert and joining me every week is Tom and we are two guys from Northeast Ohio just trying to figure out what's going on in our state.
00:00:23
Speaker
This is show 36 recorded on November 22nd. It's Thanksgiving week but we still got some stuff to discuss.
Concert Recovery and Review
00:00:31
Speaker
So let's go.
00:00:40
Speaker
you recovered you still haven't recovered from tuesday from that i thought you meant from falling off the truck no uh more yeah more from the uh from the concert in the concert yeah i forgot about falling off the thing yeah no my head is still uh still a bit off from that From the show? Yeah, no, I was fine. Yeah, it wasn't too bad. I think i think the staying, I mean, it wasn't I got home at like 11. It wasn't that late.
00:01:14
Speaker
as I think just standing on concrete for three and a half hours. Well, I'm used to that. Was the worst. I am not. i am not. yeah I got a cushy, I sit in a chair or in my truck most of the time. and That was little different.
00:01:30
Speaker
No, I got to bed little after midnight. Woke up at 5.30, slept in a little bit. I was all right. mean, it wasn't great, but I was all right. Yeah, I I managed. I was a little rough around the edges, but I scheduled my day appropriately.
00:01:49
Speaker
I remember when I was like 25, that was like nothing. and That's my point. That was my my first, i was like, oh yeah, my knees kind of sore from like i'm standing on concrete. yeah But it was it was worth it to me. It was a good show.
00:02:04
Speaker
was I thought it was a really good show. Yeah, it was it was, I didn't care for the first band. yeah I won't mention their name because ah because they they were okay. I just didn't care for them.
00:02:15
Speaker
Yeah, they were okay. and It was filler. Miles Kennedy was good. He wasn't what I expected. I didn't know anything about him. I just kind of read his bio before the show, and I was i was hoping it was going to be a little, ah I don't know, a little bit more like blues rock.
00:02:35
Speaker
It was, but it wasn't quite what I expected.
00:02:39
Speaker
I checked him out a little bit beforehand, so I kind of knew at least what his solo stuff was. he's He was the singer of Alter Bridge. Right, right. and And now he's on his own. He's got a couple of solo albums. I don't know if they i don' if he broke up. i I don't know. I don't follow them or it really listen to any of their music.
00:02:55
Speaker
But he has a... um don't know. His voice is, reminds me, I want to say Judas Priest for some reason. but he's he's got that He's got that pitch, yeah. Yeah, that that's what I thought. And then that's never been appealing to me.
00:03:12
Speaker
No, no, i don't I didn't like his voice at all. I was hoping his guitar playing. Yeah, the music was good. I was hoping he was going to be a little bit more... ah A little bit more guitar-oriented, I guess. i don't Well, he definitely had plenty of guitars, though or the same three. He kept switching every every... I think every song he switched guitars.
00:03:31
Speaker
Yeah, he he changed guitars every song. It was just rotating three guitars, so I didn't get it. And it was the same guitar. Yeah, just different color. Yeah. Just the same exact guitar, just different, yeah.
00:03:45
Speaker
I wonder if he needs to do that, because he might be... um sponsored or ah you know, endorsement endorsed by, ah I think that was PRS, Paul Reed Smith guitar. That's what it looked like. I've seen those body shapes.
00:04:01
Speaker
Well, the body shape was like a Tully. That's what threw me off. The headstock was what was telling me it was a Paul Reed Smith. Yeah, but I thought it had like a waviness to it. Like some Paul Reed Smith ones have like... They're kind of very contoured. Yeah, that looked like to me, some of them, maybe it was just the sheen I was seeing. But the headstock, yeah, it definitely wasn't... enough You could tell it wasn't a Fender or anything.
00:04:19
Speaker
It has a different... I'm going to look it up right now. Does Miles Kennedy play...
00:04:29
Speaker
I mean, that's what Mammoth did. I mean, Wolfgang does. He just plays like two or three different EVH. He he started his own line, Semi Hollows for EVH.
00:04:42
Speaker
It's something they never never had, I guess. ah For some reason, I'm very intrigued with with Wolfgang Van Halen. And obviously, it's something to do with Van Halen and his dad. But just really intrigued on his story and everything else. That's, I think, I keep...
00:04:57
Speaker
listening to interviews and you know i don't know it's very interesting to me how his life came about being the son of eddie van helen and valerie brunelli who's also a you know celebrity star yeah so it's very so i've been watching a lot and of his videos over the last year since i discovered his music in a lot of interviews and he's you know he wants to be different he doesn't want to be his dad and the first thing he did was start designing his own guitar Yeah. I stalled long enough. Did you ah find it?
00:05:30
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And he's got his, there's a Paul Reed Smith signature model. Yeah. Yeah. and uh but yeah that's uh he was doing similar things for different songs but he wasn't doing it wolfgang wasn't doing it every song he'd go two songs and he switched i think we're i think he went the first five six seven songs went before he switched yeah i think he switched after he went to the keyboard if i remember right i don't know yeah that was uh that was it's yeah still
00:06:01
Speaker
Still jamming to it. as it was It was a great show, I thought. I thought was i was i had very high hopes, so I'm very excited that they kind of met them. Yeah. Expectations were high for me.
00:06:12
Speaker
I wasn't... numb way Well, yeah, I was expecting her to hear a great band. Yeah. And the band He three guitars. I mean, how can you go wrong with three guitars and a bassist? Yeah, well, he's trying to sound like the album.
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah, he said he's hes said in interviews he likes having to because he doesn't have to play guitar the whole show. He can just come in and out. He does some of the lead stuff, does a lot of solos, and and he could just a lot of the songs he can back out and still have that that's that you know that that sound that he's looking for No, the reason I'm saying that is because most tracks are have, you know, yeah ah almost every song is that you hear is going to have at least three guitars in there.
00:06:56
Speaker
I think he quads his, he says. Yeah. In the recording. So yeah, part but he's. Well, that doesn't, that doesn't mean that. He said, yeah, he does, he he said he uses four tracks or something like that for a lot of his guitaring. Like he'll do it four different tracks or whatever. don't I've never made music, so i don't know.
00:07:15
Speaker
I just go off of what he says. And what he has specific specific yeah specifically said, having the extra guitar player helps him as a singer concentrate on singing.
00:07:28
Speaker
He could do more. Well, you're saying that you think he does it more for... To sound like a record. Right, yeah. mean, he could stop playing and still sound like the record, I think, at this point.
00:07:39
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm just saying there's part, we're getting, we're sure we're we're digging into this a little bit. No, i'm I'm thinking there's at least four guitar parts in each song. So he has three guitar players and he can, yeah, he could bow out for a second and yeah still sound full.
00:07:58
Speaker
Right, yeah, and I think he was mentioning that because because he's new to singing. That was kind of where i was going with it. So he said he was helping him kind of go between the two and not have to worry so much about keeping the sound up because he still has two guitarists. And he's not a natural singer, but he does a pretty good job.
00:08:15
Speaker
i don't know. I thought his singing is ah exceptional. Yeah, yeah. And it was great, and i would I would check it out, Mammoth. He just had his third album come out in October, so check it out.
Family and School Debates
00:08:29
Speaker
But other than that, I had a very, very proud, proud dad week this week. Oh, okay. I was very proud of my daughter. So I picked up my 15-year-old from high school.
00:08:45
Speaker
and I did my normal, what's going on? How you doing? How was your day? And you know, a lot of times you go, nothing, you know, and then I always push them up. so you So you did nothing. So do I need to call the school and yell at your teacher for not having you do? No, dad, we did stuff. I'll say, okay, well, tell me what you did. So anyway, that wasn't that normal day. It was a a different day. She had a different look in her eyes. she She looked at me with this weird thing called a smile and said,
00:09:15
Speaker
In speech class, I think it is, yeah, speech class, they're having a debate, mo um mock debate, and they couldn't figure out. know So it was groups of four, I think, and they all have to agree on the topic.
00:09:28
Speaker
They couldn't come to anything. So my daughter decides, well, how about we we debate the food stamps?
00:09:42
Speaker
And I went, it's happening. It's happening. my gosh. So she starts, ah yeah, i want to i want to I want to debate EBT. And I was like, you know, i started going, well what do you mean EBT? We started talking a little bit. I said, okay, well then what do you, what's your view on it?
00:10:01
Speaker
Well, you know, like you were telling me, dad, ugh.
00:10:08
Speaker
Again, proud Papa moment. but no like they like you showed her They should make her argue this other point, though. Right. So she, was let's yeah, that's where I was going, too. She said, well, like you've showed me, look at some of these people, you know, with the government shutdown and stuff. And i was like, oh, my God.
00:10:26
Speaker
Somebody pinch me. I'm dreaming. Don't worry. It's going to be all gone when she goes to college. Maybe. Maybe. it's good it's It's a good possibility And I said, well, you know, okay, so give me some give me some points. She's like, well, you know, and she's 15, so she doesn't really, she hears me and she could tell.
00:10:47
Speaker
I'm just glad that she when I talked, she actually was listening. I was shocked. And I started going through it. I said, well, what you have to do as a good debater is know your opponent's position better than they do.
00:11:03
Speaker
I said, you need to challenge yourself on every position that you make as you were there as you were them or from their side of it, at least in your mind, and dig into their side, maybe even more than yours.
00:11:15
Speaker
Right. And, ah you know, we went through a lot. She's like well, you know, but she asked she was asking me questions. And second is she has a debate club.
00:11:28
Speaker
I didn't, I, you know, she had, they have bunch of clubs there and they're kind of, eh, you know, but she goes into, she decides to go into debate club. I said, oh, great. You know, so they have their first couple of meetings. They talk about a few things and she gets, I pick her up one day after school and she's like, we have ah another debate. I said, oh, another one she has for debate club. And then was, I thought the original one was for debate club. And she told me for speech. I, okay, I get it. I get it. So what do you, what's your, well, what could, she goes, what's the electoral college?
00:12:00
Speaker
Yes, I get to talk about the Electoral College to my 15-year-old daughter and watch her eyes just glaze right over.
00:12:08
Speaker
So we went to
Thanksgiving and Political Ironies
00:12:09
Speaker
Electoral College and this and that. Well, I have a conclusion on this one. So she goes to the debate club. This was the week before. So this week, she I pick her up from debate club. And I said, so how did how'd it go? she goes,
00:12:22
Speaker
was like, what's the matter? Did you lose? we She goes, no. we went the op We went with the backup option. said, backup option? She goes, yeah. I was like, what what do you mean? She goes, well, yeah, we had a we were going to do electoral college or what animal would make the best president?
00:12:39
Speaker
So, and then I realized, oh, these are student run clubs. So there's a teacher they're monitoring, but this is run and and ran by the students. So the students decided to do that instead of an actual debate on the Electoral College. So I was like, ah, well, at least we had, at least you get, you know, I sent her videos. So she's, she's up to speed at Electoral College.
00:12:59
Speaker
And i I asked her the other day what she thought of it. You know, what would you view after looking into it? She goes, there has to be a better way. I was like, well, there might be, but no one's come up with one yet. Because, you know, when I was explaining to her the first thing she said, she goes, oh, wow.
00:13:16
Speaker
If it was all just by popular vote, then all the big states would win. Or they would be the one. I said, exactly. Like she came. states Yeah, she came to that conclusion. I said, not even the states. I go, the cities will actually be the ones to to make that decision. and wouldn't even be the state. It be the big cities, Chicago, l LA, New York.
00:13:34
Speaker
So she she thinks there's a better way. I said, then come up with one. like Because no one else has in 250 years. So you are got some ah got some tall um tall tasks that have had you.
00:13:46
Speaker
But on another note, Thanksgiving week, Thanksgiving week and Thanksgiving week would not be Thanksgiving week without stories about the Epstein list.
00:14:04
Speaker
We'll talk about Thanksgiving later. I just want to use my gobble sound effect early on in the show. um But well, mean, because I guess we can. Is there anything you're thankful for, Tom? I mean, I
00:14:17
Speaker
Our listeners. Yep. That was on my list too. I am thankful for every single listener for sure. Every single one. But on the national front, I guess we can't ignore the Epstein list too long. And and there's some, some good stuff that came out.
00:14:33
Speaker
Well, good-ish, funny in my opinion. Yeah. And a couple of the, so so obviously everybody kind of, I think everybody kind of knows what's going on with the Epstein list and the Democrats and Republicans are having a ah pissing match over it.
00:14:47
Speaker
And it's, I still am very suspicious of this whole thing because
00:14:54
Speaker
it's odd that they're pushing so hard to get something out that I'm not sure they want out. And why haven't, why did the Democrats mainly? Yeah. Okay.
00:15:06
Speaker
Why, and if they are so hard up on getting this information out, why haven't they said anything in the last 10 years? and they They could have done it while Biden was president. They couldve done a walp they could have done it before Biden was president. They could have done it when Trump, trump they had Congress.
00:15:22
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. they they couldve They could have done the same exact thing when they had Congress, but they didn't. And it's it I can go back to only one thing really in my head. And if if I'm missing something, let me know.
00:15:35
Speaker
But it's because cause Trump said don't. So they said yes. And it really feels like a trap.
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah, the timing's not great though. No, it'd be better if if they pushed it a a little farther down the road for political reasons. Yeah, i for midterms. but I don't think... um They couldn't push it anymore, so they had to.
00:16:00
Speaker
Yeah. There was too much pushback from a handful of people in Congress. So immediately, what we found is, be careful what you wish for.
00:16:11
Speaker
just might get it. And immediately, a couple of Democrats popped into the, well, was going to say crosshairs, but that would be mean. One and being Congresswoman Plaskett,
00:16:23
Speaker
last class get She is the representative from the Virgin Islands, I think, right? Yeah. So she doesn't have a vote, but she is on committees. Right. Right.
00:16:37
Speaker
And what what was what was revealed was she was getting, so Michael Cohen's in a hearing. they're They're questioning him during, is this there's Trump impeachment stuff?
00:16:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So they're questioning Cohen on Trump impeachment, and she's getting texts from Jeffrey Epstein during the hearing.
00:17:03
Speaker
Texts that apparently she started.
00:17:07
Speaker
And there's also, i have a story in here, Larry Summers is also, who's Larry Summers, he is ah he was Obama's, no, he was Clinton's secretary, treasury secretary. And under Obama, he did something on Obama no didn't he? He was like a consultant or Oh, Barack Obama's National Economic Council Director and Harvard University President.
00:17:35
Speaker
So we, he but which he resigned from in 2026, amid pressure from multiple controversies. Currently, he is on the board of OpenAI.
00:17:47
Speaker
Not anymore. Not anymore, he was. He's resigned. That's kind of the story. Because he's on the list. It doesn't look good for Larry. I have skimmed over what they found for lariats. You know, I just expect a lot more of this. I'm i'm kind of just waiting waiting to read it all at one time, I guess.
00:18:07
Speaker
But think Plaskett is a little more interesting. I got a couple clips from on her. from her um I got a couple clips from Liberal Hivemind, which is a YouTube channel that I watch occasionally.
00:18:21
Speaker
comes up. and they are and he is discussing what they found he's so i got a couple clips well one we'll start with this is amazing journalism from cnn when they're interviewing plaskett and asking her well what but how how did this happen whats what's going on and i just you're gonna be shocked at what you hear so here's here's a little cnn apologize ahead of time it is cnn But like many constituents, individuals get your phone number. They text you about issues. They speak with you. I have spoken with him about issues that are relevant, things that are going on in the Virgin Islands and elsewhere around the country. Right. But but on that day that we're talking about, um you initiated the tax exchange at 755 in the morning.
00:19:09
Speaker
So why were you even texting with Epstein at the time? he was a a known sex offender then. Sure. um You know, I explain to people I'm a I've been a prosecutor for many years. And there are a lot of people who have information that are not your friends that you use to get information for to get it the truth. I believe that Jeffrey Epstein had information and I was going to get information to get it the truth. um Having a friendship with him is not something that I would be deemed to have. um And so I'm just looking forward. I'm moving forward. And I think that that's what we as American people should do is move forward. If individuals are not involved in illegal activity, they're goingnna water off there right so extending his criminal enterprise or his financial enterprise or all of those things, I think that we need to look at what people are doing moving forward.
00:20:03
Speaker
Wait, let me just better understand that. What is that point? Because at the time he was a known sex officer and it had been detailed all the sexual abuse. There are a lot of people who have done a lot of crimes. And as a prosecutor, you get information from people where you can. Give me a fricking break.
00:20:17
Speaker
She was just trying to get to the truth by doing what exactly? taking live stream coaching sessions from Jeffrey frickin Epstein on what to say during an anti-Trump hearing. What an absolute idiot. Or obviously she takes us to be stupid. We saw the text messages, which she, by the way, initiated. he is coaching her live during a hearing. And her explanation is, well, she was just trying to get to the bottom. She was trying to get to the truth. It was an information operation. Right. Well...
00:20:47
Speaker
Man, I was shocked. So Wolf Blitzer is sitting next to this person. I'm not sure her name on CNN. And three follow-up questions, Tom. Three on CNN.
00:21:02
Speaker
I was shocked. I was shocked. But you you know, I think you might be losing the the narrative a little bit. Just, I mean, what do you think? CNN?
00:21:14
Speaker
Figured she'd be getting a lot of softballs, no? no i not on that no no i don't know i i didn't think they were pushing back that hard yeah we usually they don't even ask a follow-up usually it's just okay they have a statement and we'll move on to the next subject i i rarely see them yeah with the two or three times with the bigger people yeah in congress maybe because she's low level i guess yeah i don't know congress won't even censure her well let's Let's be more specific.
00:21:45
Speaker
The Republicans won't. Republicans can't even do it. I know. It's it's it's ridiculous. Yeah. they Because Republicans suck. But here's a little more, maybe a little more evidence. Because when you've lost, this is again from a liberal hive mind, when you've lost Cenk Uygur from the Young Turks, maybe it's time to be noticed. Here's here's what he clipped from Cenk.
00:22:08
Speaker
I'm on the left, I'm a Democrat, but what the hell was that? That was crazy. So he's apparently got these Congress people on speed dial and he's watching if you, I read the whole story, of course, and he's watching the entire hearings and he's texting people different directions. Did anybody know that Epstein was running our government? I mean, that was amazing. Did you see, she doesn't know who Rona is, so she misspells it in the text.
00:22:36
Speaker
She thinks it might be an acronym for something. And then she says, Ms. Rona. Rona's her first name. It's Rona Graff, the assistant for Trump. She literally has no idea what she's asking. She's only asking that question because Epstein directed her to ask that question. And interesting that Epstein at that point is directing people on how to damage Trump.
00:22:56
Speaker
So that doesn't serve any of my interests for me to tell you that. But that's what's happening in that hearing. You got to be fair and you got to call out what's actually happening. But what's interesting in all the emails is Epstein goes back and forth, back and forth.
00:23:08
Speaker
Should we hurt Trump or should we help Trump? Should we hurt or help? And depending on what Trump is saying, he categorizes Trump as dangerous. My guess as to why he thinks Trump is dangerous is because usually when someone is bought or blackmailed, they stay bought or blackmailed, right? Whereas Trump is so volatile, they're not sure how to handle him, right? Should we hurt him or should we use him as an asset?
00:23:32
Speaker
I thought that was some pretty pretty good analysis from Cenk. occasionally occasionally he ah he has some good stuff like that. Yeah. And it's it's a a great analysis of If you actually, if you get past the fact that Epstein is texting a congresswoman during a hearing and actually look at the texts, I mean, that's bad enough, but look at the text and see what's going on.
00:23:59
Speaker
He's trying to figure out how to stop Trump. i mean, he's trying to figure out how to get get Trump impeached. He's not a big fan of Trump. They've been huge enemies. And it just, it it's it's very ah very white pilling, isn't it?
00:24:14
Speaker
for some, sounds like jank a little bit at least. Like he's going, wait a minute, I've been told all this crap about Trump and Epstein and this is giving me a completely different side the story.
00:24:26
Speaker
So I thought was pretty pretty interesting.
00:24:32
Speaker
And so did you apparently. No, I'm thinking about it. I think, ah I don't think it makes a difference to the people that are just in their own silo.
00:24:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. that's Those people you're not going to get. I just i think on the edges, i think that would be the Young Turks, shockingly enough. ah yeah you might be able to You might be able to turn some people. Not turn them, but... you know i mean, he's a far he's a far lefty. He's a commie.
00:25:01
Speaker
But he's kind of... ah he's he's got common sense. Yeah. Except when it comes to his leftist positions. Yeah. what We've seen from annaga Anna, Anna Kasparian. She's done a flip. Yeah.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah. She's done a complete, no, she's not like voting for Trump or voting for Republicans, but she's been awakened to what we're just being lied to completely by everybody. i was like, yes, thank you. Yeah. Yes. Thank you.
00:25:25
Speaker
And I go ahead. Oh no. Yeah. She was like the first one that I think it's because she got mugged. Right. yeah Actually, yeah, it's interesting story. she got She got sexually assaulted, according to her.
00:25:39
Speaker
So she had, I think she as she lives in California. She takes a walk every day. she There's homeless everywhere, homeless encampments. I think she dropped something and bent over on her morning walk, and a dude came up behind her and started grinding up against her.
00:25:53
Speaker
And when she posted about it online, yeah she got flack for being a bigot and a racist. And he's like, she's like, I never said the guy's race. And he was white. It has nothing to do with that. And that was kind of very eyeopening for her.
00:26:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. She she was a victim, but she was, they they blamed her. Right. Right. And weren't they like, weren't they, wasn't there something about her because being a mother, but people were wanting to call her birthing person?
00:26:21
Speaker
I think so, yeah. Something like that. sounds about right. think that was her first inclination when she first... Oh, okay. I think that's that was the maybe the... The start of it? The start of it, or she had brought that up during this whole controversy on the other part of it.
00:26:34
Speaker
so Now she's listening to Candace Owens, which I don't know if that's good. i think you may have gone a little too far, maybe. i mean, i you know. ah But speaking of lying...
00:26:46
Speaker
but of lying going lie. And let's go on to one and next story, which is a little follow-up from Snap, the Snap apocalypse that we had.
SNAP Benefits and Activism
00:26:56
Speaker
So everybody got the the the government shutdown is over. Snap benefits are going out.
00:27:01
Speaker
And News Channel 5 has done a
00:27:06
Speaker
a followup with Diane. Now Diane, i don't know if we had brought her up or she had been in any of the clips that we played for the snap, but she, I saw Diane in a couple of news or it was a press conference a couple of weeks before this government shutdown, Cuyahoga County put on and she was there. And I was like, Oh, so she's just kind of their example. She's going to use, know, she's an elderly lady who's, who's got on, on assistance. Um,
00:27:35
Speaker
Okay, fine. You know, that's that's kind of what you do. It's you're shaping your narrative and all that fun stuff. But then they did a follow up and i'm um um the headline is, wait, is this actually a headline? Let me turn that off the reader thing.
00:27:48
Speaker
Let's see. What does the headline say? Oh, you asked, so we're checking in with Diane. The sub headline is, we've heard so many people after a senior SNAP recipient recipient from Cleveland shared her worry of loss of losing her $63 a month in food stamps, food assistance on world news tonight. Okay.
00:28:14
Speaker
So that's what caught my eyes. Like $63. I'm not saying, Oh, it's only say I'm not saying it's only 63, but I'm saying $63 is what we're talking about here.
00:28:25
Speaker
My first thought was, okay, so I've seen you sitting, standing next to, ah what's the council president for Ronane? that the council president? did could he have Could he have covered could you covered your 63 bucks for the the November? Because I bet after they had the press conference and they went to lunch, he spent more than $63 his lunch.
00:28:47
Speaker
And I said, well, who's this Diane person? And I, so here is a clip from News Channel 5. This is, what's her name? Katie Houston. Youson. Katie Youson. We've heard her before.
00:29:00
Speaker
Yeah. And she is. She cracks me up. Yeah. So she is, um shes she has a little background on what happened here. And let's just go with the the clip.
00:29:11
Speaker
And that includes 75-year-old Diane Howard. We spoke with her late last month during a Cuyahoga County media event to bring attention to the looming loss of SNAP benefits. Diane is a longtime advocate for vulnerable communities in Cleveland.
00:29:25
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She herself, a senior, relies on the food assistance program, receiving $63 a month from SNAP, which she lost during the shutdown, a hardship Diane shared on ABC's World News Tonight with David Muir last week. trying to hold on to God's hands and his grace and his mercy. youe
00:29:47
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here's why We heard from a lot of you after that interview aired asking about Diane. So they're asking about Diane. So I started asking about Diane. And so when she says that it's so hard, that's what kind of, and that's weird. So she leans back in the chair. This is on like ABC News Tonight or something.
00:30:08
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Brings her hands up. And when she says so hard, she puts both hands to her face and she goes, it's so hard. And I went, wow, that, like, I'm not trying to be overcritical, but I was like, that seemed weird to me.
00:30:20
Speaker
So I looked up. who Diane was. Yeah. and And then I forgot to pull it, of course. So I'm not to to look it up again. But Diane Howard is a, um
00:30:35
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well, she works for the um Cleveland Metro Housing Authority. She is, Diane Howard is the commissioner of the Cuyahoga Metro Housing Authority Board of Commissioners. Is dedicated to, this is from her bio page on the CMHA site, is dedicated to improving the safety and equity
00:30:54
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and quality of life, ah safety and equity yeah and improvement, blah, blah, blah. listen Okay. In addition to her role on CMHA board commissioner, Howard serves community organizations throughout Cleveland.
00:31:10
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In early 2000, she served as president of CMHA's police athletic league.
00:31:16
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Let's see. She is now commissioner. Howard serves on the Ohio city district. incorporate board incorporated board of trustees to better the neighborhoods and make the area safer for residents at CMHA.
00:31:30
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Lakewood Terrace, where she lives. She's been there for 15 years.
00:31:36
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So I looked up. Now, in her defense a little bit, the commissioner's position is a non-paid position. But but you've got like two or three jobs, you think you could find one that pays you.
00:31:51
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Nah. No. And secondly, i will now now I'm going back to saying, really? $63? Really?
00:32:03
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So you lost $63 in a month and now you can't eat. She's an activist. Yes, she's totally an activist. And that was what brought me in. The hands to the face. It's so hard. She's a terrible actress on top of it. Terrible.
00:32:17
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um Let's see what I, you know, let's see what the clip two has to say. So I followed up with her Friday. She told me her SNAP benefits have returned, albeit $3 short of her usual $63. But that is not what surprised her the most. A lot of people reached out to us.
00:32:36
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They were worried about you. What does that mean to you? Oh, God. Love the audio. It's so great. But I know now, people in the world,
00:32:54
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For the ones who are in poverty.
00:32:59
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Let me just hear that again. let let Let's just hear
00:33:04
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what Katie's actually saying and not us. okay Because I kept doing it too. Let's try this again. Let's see. But I know now, there's people in the world today that show love.
00:33:18
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For the ones who are in poverty. Oh, oh, oh. Okay, so youre here's here's News Channel 5, I would assume a multimillion dollar business.
00:33:32
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And she's holding a phone up to a mic is basically what she did for the interview. She's like, come on, people, technology. It's not that hard. I found an article here from NPR with ah with Diane Howard from 2021.
00:33:47
Speaker
twenty twenty one So she's she's been... She's an activist. That's why she was there. Yeah. She's an activist. She's been doing this for a long time. So lesson here, the story here is, be careful, you know, question with boldness, I guess would be my thing.
00:34:06
Speaker
Question of boldness. Because did anyone in the newsroom offer... to cover Diane's 63 bucks. Again, they met with her, they had a story with her, they went to lunch, they spent way more than $63 on their freaking lunch. Did anyone bother it to slip her a 20?
00:34:22
Speaker
Would it have hurt them to slip her a 20 a hundred? No, it wouldn't hurt any of them. But did any of them help her? No, no. Because I think He didn't need the help, but I, that acting was so bad that I couldn't stop laughing. Yeah.
00:34:39
Speaker
The first time I listened to this. So ah that I, that, don't know how they even aired that without thinking that they're, I mean, that people are going to look at this and go just giggle.
00:34:53
Speaker
Yeah, well, I giggled then and I went, wait a minute, that seems really fishy to me. So that started I just did a very quick Google search. That's what I mean. yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Like if somebody did hear that, they would, most people won't take the time, but it would make most people raise their antenna up and go, this is BS. Yeah.
00:35:13
Speaker
People asked about it, Tom. People asked about Diane. I'm like, mm-hmm. So I even put that, I think I reposted this and said, hey, um here's a little help, News Channel 5, in case you didn't know. But she's the board member commissioner, actually, of the CMHA, Metro Housing Authority.
00:35:30
Speaker
And she's got like two other jobs, too. Again, people could say she's she's not getting paid. And fair point, except for the fact that if you're on assistance, what other assistance are you on?
00:35:42
Speaker
Well, you are you're you're on assistance because you're living at cmh at a CMHA building. You're automatically getting assistance with that, whether it's discounted or free rent. maybe Maybe you take care of yourself first and and you have a lit make a living before you volunteer your time at CMHA. That's what I'm saying.
00:36:02
Speaker
Maybe you can i don't know maybe you could do a couple Ubers during the week and pick up 63 bucks.
00:36:09
Speaker
mow a couple lawns you know she has a ah facebook page here diane howard right she's uh she's got 4500 followers and that's the grandma yeah just the red just the poor old grandma she's fighting for him i mean 63 dollars she's fighting for what did uh what did they say she was what does it say At the beginning of the second one?
00:36:35
Speaker
Oh, no. says It says beginning of the first one, I think. let me see. And that includes 75-year-old Diane Howard. Who she? We spoke with her late last month during a Cuyahoga County media event to bring attention to the looming loss of SNAP benefits. Diane is a longtime advocate for vulnerable communities in Cleveland. she her So they knew.
00:36:54
Speaker
That's what that tells me. They knew what she did, and they just kind of glossed over it with that little fluffy piece right there. So, you know, snap.
00:37:07
Speaker
You're being lied to. Hey, big not not a big surprise, but I thought it was, man, I i got, it pissed me off. when I was like, are you serious? You're literally the commissioner of the CMHA board.
00:37:21
Speaker
Well, it's not going to get any better with our next story.
00:37:25
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Northeast Ohioans face sharp health insurance hikes after federal subsidies expire. Speaking the shutdown, speaking be of shutdown this is what the shutdown was supposedly really about.
Healthcare and Political Speculations
00:37:36
Speaker
I mean, illegals and all that stuff. Yes.
00:37:38
Speaker
But part of it, they were, they were, Democrats wanted this to be included in the continuing a resolution. The Republicans said, no, we're going to negotiate after that.
00:37:50
Speaker
And that was one of the bargaining chips they were trying to use.
00:37:55
Speaker
And what is that is, So the again, it's an IdeaStream article, and it glosses over the actual, kind of glosses over it. So it says north your north Northeast Ohioans who buy their own health insurance through the Affordable Care Act are facing steep increases for 2026 coverage. So Affordable Care Act is Obamacare, 2012, bipartisan or um not bipartisan. It was only Democrats voted for it.
00:38:27
Speaker
it It's one of the few you've seen. that i mean, you see a lot of party line stuff, but you really, really see no Republicans or no Democrats voting for something. it's which It was quite eye-opening at the time, and I can and see why. So the heights are expected because Congress ended the federal government shutdown without extending enhanced subsidies.
00:38:49
Speaker
Enhanced subsidies. So it's Obamacare. It's already subsidized health care. But now they have enhanced subsidies. Oh. To keep the marketplace plans more affordable since the pandemic.
00:39:00
Speaker
Oh. oh
00:39:04
Speaker
So what they did during COVID, because COVID, they increased the subsidies for Obamacare. So those are expiring at the end of the year.
00:39:15
Speaker
Yeah. What they did was make, ah they let people that are over 400% over poverty get benefits also.
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:28
Speaker
So that's what's going to be going up. but The healthcare care costs aren't going up. The subsidies are going away. Right. and And they're going away mostly for the...
00:39:41
Speaker
I would say middle to upper middle income.
00:39:48
Speaker
Yeah. Those who normally under normal Obamacare wouldn't, they would, you could, you could buy it through the marketplace, but you're not going to get and a discount. Right. Government discount. So that's going away. That. Okay.
00:40:00
Speaker
It's been five years, six years going on six years. what when they wanted the democrats wanted to keep these subsidies going of course that's what they're going to try negotiate for this coming month supposedly if they even are they even going to do a session in december i think they do um i don't know they're going home for the holidays Yeah, that's what they were saying. They they would they would negotiate. The Republicans said they would negotiate it before you know they and before they expire. So that would tell me they should do it next couple weeks. But who knows? We'll see.
00:40:38
Speaker
And then i I tagged on this little extra story about Marcy Kapdor. And I kind of, at first I was like, well, I don't know, maybe give her some credit because she kind of held her ground. I mean, she, she passed up this story from Ohio.News and as Republicans are rallying against a Democratic U.S. Representative Marcy Kaptor, who voted against the bipartisan deal that reopened the federal government following long, longest record shutdown, blah, blah, blah. because They had, she, what she was voting no, was voting against about $3 million dollars in federal funding for her, her, um,
00:41:14
Speaker
area for her constituents. I went, well, you know, is that somebody with, so my question to you, Tom, is this somebody with principles or just getting in line, falling in line like the Democrats often do?
00:41:31
Speaker
Say that again. is Is she standing on principle and voting no because of this healthcare care thing? And, you know, So she had if voting yes would give her her her um constituents $3 million dollars in federal funding.
00:41:47
Speaker
Is she standing on principle and saying, no, I'm not going to vote with this healthcare care cost and blah, blah, blah. Or is she just the a soldier and they they said, do it or else. And she does it.
00:41:58
Speaker
I do think, yeah, that's the latter. Is that one in the same way that I say it? It almost seems like one in the same. Because at first I was like, oh, wow, she is actually voting against herself, her own self-interest as a politician.
00:42:11
Speaker
But then I thought, not really. This is kind of more of what I've seen a ah difference in Republicans Democrats. The Democrats fall in line. Like, man. a Lockstep.
00:42:22
Speaker
Lockstep. And Republicans are just very meandering. Well, I mean, we can use the example of the news I just dropped last night with, them what's her name from?
00:42:34
Speaker
marjorie marjorie taylor green resigning she's like i'm done i'm not falling in i mean if she was a democrat she would just fall falling in line yeah you know even even bernie sanders fell in line of course yeah hey you want to make some money fall in line yeah and and you know on to you know yet it to go back to touch on uh plaskett And Epstein was a big donor because, and this is similar to what probably what Captor is running into, you you need money to be on committees. She was on a committee, Plaskett was on a committee, a decent committee, but you have to pay for that.
00:43:10
Speaker
These people don't know. when he's Democrats Republicans sit you down and give you a list, a menu. you What committees do you want to be on? You want to actually have power, you gotta got to get on a committee, pick a committee, and right next to was a price tag of how much you need to give the Democrat or Republican party to get on that committee.
00:43:25
Speaker
and And that's the same thing for captor. It's like, oh, you you could vote, yes, but you're going to be we're going to bump you off these committees, and then you have no power. Republicans do the same thing, too. And that's that's kind of why ah it was you know Epstein thing was, yeah, he was giving her money so she can get on these committees and get some power, and then she had to pay up.
00:43:44
Speaker
pay up So I don't know. i think ah I think the shutdown's over, but the party has just begun, think. Because we're going to hit this again in ah in a few more months.
00:43:56
Speaker
The same thing's going happen, no? A few more months. I think we're i think in January, they're going to start talking about that, right? That's true. Yeah, not even a few more months, just a month or so. And we're going having the same old conversations. We'll see what that comes up. And then and then they're going to extend it to right before the midterms.
00:44:13
Speaker
Yeah, nothing gets done. Nothing gets done. Do nothing, Republicans. And that's why the Republicans never get anywhere. Yep. Oh, wait till 2028. There's to be a big push to get that old guard back in.
00:44:29
Speaker
Oh, yes. Yeah, because there won't be... a No more Trump. Won't be a Trump on the ticket, so... Yep. Hmm. There will be a Vance on the ticket, so we'll see. you Yeah, no, that that's that's good, but I mean, I'm talking about Congress and all that.
00:44:45
Speaker
There's going to big push for that all to get rid of the Make America a Great crowd. And frankly, and yeah half half of that crowd is um is not really, if you want to call it MAGA, they're not really MAGA.
00:45:01
Speaker
Opportunists, yep I would say. Yep. Max Miller here from Ohio, he's not MAGA. Give me a break. he was he He just took an opportunity when, ah what was it Alex Gonzalez voted to impeach Trump, which was one of the few Republicans that did.
00:45:21
Speaker
So he had to resign, and Max Miller took over saying he's MAGA, and he's not really MAGA than Alex. No. No, he's more of a rhino, probably. Yeah. Well, I mean, hate I don't even like to use the term rhino anymore, because...
00:45:38
Speaker
seems like that is the Republican Party. It's not Republican name only. They are the Republican Party. Yeah, no, the, the um, oh that you know, the, if you want to call it, I don't like calling it the MAGA movement, but okay, let's call it make America great or America first movement is it's a populist movement. it's not really a Republican thing. we just, can we have like America in the top three?
00:46:02
Speaker
Can we, can we, can we agree on that? Can it least be in the top three of your topics? Yeah, it. Top three is them themselves. um yeah If we can't agree on... it You know, i it it was explained to me this way by commentary someone who will remain nameless.
00:46:20
Speaker
The Ten Commandments. Can we agree on eight of them? Not just any eight, but specific eight. You know, first, second, fourth, fifth, stuff like that. Tenth. If we can't agree on eight of the ten... Did I say First Commandments?
00:46:36
Speaker
I meant... ah that's um Bill of Rights. Bill of Rights. Jeez. First 10 amendments, not commandments. Amendments. I was wondering where you're going with that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're they're not they're similar in a lot ways, but can we can we agree on the first on the Bill of Rights? Can we agree on those first 10 amendments? That's Swiss cheese as it is. so Yeah.
00:46:58
Speaker
They haven't been able to agree on that. If we can't, then we have a country.
00:47:04
Speaker
you know it It was e plumasuno unum e pluribus unum, I think is the phrase, from one from many one is the Latin phrase, I believe.
00:47:14
Speaker
And that that's where I look at it like, okay, yeah, we all kind of agreed on these top 10. And that's kind of what made us one. If we can't agree on that, which I so i have serious doubts we can't anymore.
00:47:28
Speaker
And I'm not sure what we're supposed to do. But to circle back on the healthcare subsidies, probably wasn't the greatest idea to just write checks to major massive insurance companies and figure, yeah, they'll bring costs down. I'd say that's a failure. don't understand why every time the government gets involved, things get more expensive.
00:47:55
Speaker
I can't imagine. can't imagine. i think I think because the guys they're giving checks to, and then they turn around give lot of that money right back to the people who made the decision to give them the checks.
00:48:13
Speaker
There's a big circle of money just keeps getting spun but around. You know, I think if you if you wanted to do it, you could probably to give checks to people and then they can pick which insurance company they want to buy from. And maybe they can get the insurance companies to at least have a the the illusion of of of competition, even though they really are all on computes.
00:48:34
Speaker
there There are options for people, yeah self-employed people, as far as healthcare goes, that are some pretty good options. Yeah. Yeah, there is. You don't need the Affordable Care Act, which is is a joke. Yeah, totally. I mean, yeah, it was it's the doing exactly what it's designed to do, which is collapse our healthcare care system, in my opinion.
00:48:59
Speaker
You think that's what they did it for? I think that was one of the, I think they make it so bad. to so everybody wants some universal health care. Everybody goes, you just have to do something. It's so bad. And the something is Medicare for all.
00:49:16
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. i don't know if it's tinful I don't know if it's that evil, but I think it's just incompetence. I mean, yes, it's usually the, but like you didn't know this was, I mean, come on.
00:49:30
Speaker
like did Have you ever talked to a congressman? Yes, and they do a good act of sounding stupid, but i don't I really don't think the vast majority of them are that stupid. I think they are. i think they're just greedy and they get lots of money for being stupid. think they get greedy.
00:49:43
Speaker
I think they're that stupid and then get greedy. think we're both right. Let's go with that. Okay, next. Let's keep moving. Next.
00:49:54
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00:50:22
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00:50:36
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You know, we see a general view of Ohio, but we don't we don't get into the nitty gritty. Yeah, we can't. I mean, even just for example, this this week, there was a lot and it wasn't a lot of big stuff, but there was a lot of stuff that I kept going, oh, well, let me flag that. Let me flag that. And eventually i just, well, lot of the stuff you got look at, prioritize it. That's what we usually do and go, okay, this going wait till next week.
00:50:59
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00:51:18
Speaker
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00:51:29
Speaker
Here they come. you Yeah, the gremlins are coming. The critters. The critters. Did you bring any? Ah, right. He brought milk duds. I mean, as long as you bring milk duds, we're good. I mean, you know, they're not the greatest, but for gremlins, I you know can only ask for so much.
00:51:45
Speaker
Creator Corner is what we got going on here. We got lots of legislation. It seems that Ohio, Columbus was very busy. Morgan, Morgan Troll, Troll, Troll, Troll.
00:51:56
Speaker
She was Troll. Troll. Hey, you know, it helped. English is only my first language. It's. going to do.
00:52:07
Speaker
So there's quite a few, the the little critters were busy. Let's put it that way. The first thing that came up was Ohio lawmakers. Okay. A catch all a catch all budget correction bill.
00:52:19
Speaker
Oh, wait, we just had like a hundred million dollar budget go a hundred billion dollar or whatever it was. I think, no, 60 billion dollars. get passed a few months ago and now they have to have a catch-all budget correction bill?
00:52:33
Speaker
Huh, that raised them some eyebrows for me. So lawmakers overwhelmingly passed spending bill that started at started as a way to make sure the name, image, and likeness contracts for college athletes ended when their college ability ah eligibility does.
00:52:55
Speaker
So how did that become a spending bill? Well, bill HB 184 puts $40 million dollars into a fund for first responders dealing with post-traumatic stress.
First Responders and Privacy Laws
00:53:09
Speaker
Seems like that wouldn't be a hard one to put in the budget. Why is it crammed into here? Changes the formula for nursing home payments for the from the state. There's a couple bunch of things. Excludes education service centers from requiring that administrative expenses are capped or be capped at 15%. Requires commercial driver's license of legal immigrants to feature the words non-domicile commercial driver's license.
00:53:37
Speaker
feels like they just um just throw all this stuff in a bill and then it's it almost feels like an omnibus bill, you know, kind of like what they do in Washington. So I don't know. Apparently there's other stuff in here they didn't even bring up in the article. I don't know. They said there's other spending in here. and and And as far as I can see, that's right now $40 million dollars for funding of first responders post-traumatic stress.
00:54:03
Speaker
Like, um ah I keep coming back to that because it's like, they don't already have some, I mean, like, what? Okay. How do they come up with that number? Yes. I don't, you know. How do they come up with that number? They don't already have
00:54:19
Speaker
social, I know, like, I figured they would have, i don't know. Wouldn't they have insurance, first responders? Yeah. You would think their health insurance would cover something like that. And I don't mind helping them out, you know, they're first responders and all that stuff. But I'm just wondering why you have to cram it in the last minute. And a lot of these bills went, they went into the wee hours of the morning passing these bills the other day to get out so they can get out for a holiday break.
00:54:44
Speaker
And not holiday break, remember. Got use as much as I can. Only got it one day. And why why cram it into a bill middle of the night? don't know.
00:54:56
Speaker
Did you forget it last, last bill? Or is it just something that, you know, you're paying you. Yeah. You know, you can't pay vote. You can't, nobody can vote no against it. So I don't know. Yeah. who's um people dig And, uh, I don't know. I just, I hate those big crammy bills. They just try to put everything in there, uh, as they can. i think, uh, the next one though is pretty interesting.
00:55:18
Speaker
And that is they want to do a, uh, and want to do bill HB 251 to regulate drone usage for the for police, which I was like, i was like, because right now I have one regulation and that's my 12 gauge and birdshot,
00:55:38
Speaker
which is not legal. to be clean You know what? I was, I was putting in my patio, laying down ah the my patio stones and I heard something over me and it was a drone. It was like before I ever seen a drone.
00:55:53
Speaker
So I got up, I looked at it, I walked into my garage, came back out with something that, well, looked like a rifle. Not going to say it was.
00:56:05
Speaker
Pointed right at it and that thing took off so quick.
00:56:12
Speaker
Yep. They were watching. i I had ah some a neighbor somewhere, I'm not sure who, was doing it a few years back for Fourth July for fireworks in my area. ah And they had they were theyre filming it, it looked like.
00:56:24
Speaker
It had to be somebody pretty close because, well, i don't know, maybe. i think i'm I'm thinking my direct neighbor. Yeah. that's pretty But they didn't, I was like, you're going to do it, just go. Like, go go into the, because you see, ever seen those drone footages of them going through a fireworks? just No, actually I haven't.
00:56:39
Speaker
Oh, look it up. They're actually flying through it as they're exploding. That's kind of cool. It's really cool. They've done it to people, done it to music and stuff. And I'm like, well, if you're going to do it, do it. But I kind of thought, hmm.
00:56:50
Speaker
That has to be done by the... yeah I would think somebody near, near, really nearby, because you don't get that much distance out of a drone. Some these commercial ones they do. I mean... Well, the commercial ones, that's what I mean. It has to be somebody close by. Yeah.
00:57:05
Speaker
yeah I mean... commercial You mean, when you say commercial, you mean like anybody can buy? ah Like big... They they make some quadcopters that are...
00:57:18
Speaker
that are, you know, six foot by six foot. Yeah. Industrial. Yeah. Industrial. Commercial industrial. Yeah. Something where actually you've seen the ones they do for, well, for, or NFL games, I think, know, football sports, they're big and they got, they got like they got serious cameras. I mean, they they got big ass cameras on them, you know, they're not. Right. So they got a hold. So I think those could go is what they use a lot of times, I think, because, and they get, they get um they get the permission from the people doing the fireworks. And, and actually, if you look, there's a lot of of videos out there of them getting, getting too close. Yeah.
00:57:52
Speaker
and getting blown out of the sky which is oh you good i guess i'm thinking of like uh consumer uh models you know so yeah we can buy we can't really give know it'd be tough to get into a fireworks show yeah yeah yeah i mean i think well i think if you were so if you were in the crowd of fireworks you probably could and if you can do it if you can do it there not that you should because they're they'll probably get mad at you but yeah But anyway, this is not that.
00:58:16
Speaker
This is a bill to regulate House Bill 251 sponsored by Republican bernie Bernard Williams. He's Republican Springfield. It was passed by the House representatives on Wednesday and sent to the Senate for consideration. um Required law enforcement to obtain a warrant in order to conduct drone surveillance just as they would in most other circumstances.
00:58:42
Speaker
Seems reasonable.
00:58:45
Speaker
Here's a quote from ah Bernard. The Fourth Amendment protects all citizens from unreasonable search and seizures. And that principle does not simply disappear just because our technology changes.
00:58:57
Speaker
While officers or or peace officers don't need a warrant to see what's visible from a manned aircraft, drones change that equation. They can hover lower and quieter, stay longer and collect far more detailed data than ever before.
00:59:14
Speaker
So 251 would make any evidence gathered via warrantless drone surveillance inadmissible in court and also established that law enforcement drone um fight and so and also establish that law enforcement drone flight excuse me and surveillance data are public records.
00:59:35
Speaker
but It also provide ah prohibits law enforcement from using drones armed with lethal weapons. Any thoughts on that?
00:59:46
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with it. Yeah, I think it's it's needed. i think definitely the lethal weapon part was is good. That way, if I see a drone with a gun on it, I definitely know it's not the cops and can shoot it.
01:00:02
Speaker
Right. um But yeah, I mean, good point. I mean, the Fourth Amendment's still... so It's still true, even though, I mean, it's it still applies to a drone. Yes, that's true.
01:00:14
Speaker
but patriotic Patriot Act took care of that thing. Yeah, that's true. It did. And what could go wrong? and I don't know. they can just call Now they can call you a domestic terrorist, and doesn't that this bill does nothing.
01:00:28
Speaker
Good point. It does. You're right. And probable cause probably still comes into play. They think you're doing something wrong. They could probably do that. And there's a bunch of stuff about you know how how close can you get to a house? can you look Can you use the drone to look into your house and that kind of stuff.
01:00:46
Speaker
And I think the only, some of the drawback or some of the concerns about the bill was that it's public record. And any surveillance they want any surveillance from a drone, they want it to be public record.
01:01:00
Speaker
And some advocates are saying, well, you know, like you could you could get some stalking issues. it's kind of ah kind of seems like a yeah very edge case. um was it I'll tell you what, if there's a drone like peeking into my window, my guns are coming out.
01:01:16
Speaker
Yes, I agree. I don't know. I don't care about my windows at that point. And I got to rethink my home defense strategy, though, now that I think about it. don't have the right ammo. i got I may have to get another gun, Tom.
01:01:30
Speaker
Well, there's nothing wrong with that. Oh, yeah. but I have to go shopping for that because I've lost most of them in a boating accident. Yeah, but all of mine yeah went on a um boating load accident it took all my guns in.
01:01:45
Speaker
It was a joint charter mission, a charter that we did and we had tragic, we none of us are boaters. So we just, we everything just sunk to the bottom of others some lake. we I don't remember which lake it was.
01:01:58
Speaker
So yeah, check out HB 251. It's not law yet. It still has to go to the Senate, but I'm going to be pretty confident it'll pass. I think so. Yeah. Be confident it'll pass.
01:02:10
Speaker
i sure I haven't heard anybody say anything negative about it. That was the only thing I saw. Even ASELU likes it, which is which makes sense. But the only consider so or the only criticism I saw was because of the public record but part of it.
01:02:25
Speaker
that you could run into people looking up public records of surveillance of somebody that, you know, they want to stalk or something like that, I guess is what we're bringing up. but Right, right. So it's it's something to bring up, but I, yeah, we got to look at all that kind of stuff. But it's actually a good, I think we need it. And they're going to send it to the Senate, see what happens.
01:02:49
Speaker
Are drones getting, commercial drones getting quiet enough to be able to spy on you like that? ah Let's say the drone gets it within... 100 feet of you mean no i don't think so i don't think so either right there's physics i mean there's only so much you can do with a fan blade going that fast right i mean it's breaking the sound barrier at the tips that's why it makes so much that's why i think that's why a helicopter makes it's actually at the tips of the wings it's going so fast it actually i think it's something i don't know if it's actually sound barrier but it's going so fast it it it
01:03:26
Speaker
that's the pop you hear. And actually to say that in the article, if you, if you check it out and check out the, think there's video to it. Yeah. I think there is that they say copters or higher pitch.
01:03:41
Speaker
So you may not hear em as far away as a helicopter, but they can also get a lot closer to you. So
01:03:49
Speaker
And the smaller, they say the smaller the blades, the higher pitch the sound is. And then the bigger quadcopters, you get the lower, you get little lower sound, but they're still loud. Yeah. No, I mean, I have one and it's like a little DGI model.
01:04:04
Speaker
I forget what the model is, but I think once again, it goes up to like 400 feet. Yeah. At that point, I can't hear it.
01:04:15
Speaker
But anything like below, it like couple hundred feet, I'm still, I think pretty loud. Yeah. Yeah. And I know they probably made them quieter, but I think there's only so much you can do. Yeah. Just like a helicopter. they they They like to make those quieter too, but they can't.
01:04:29
Speaker
Right. Without, I think, sacrificing something. But ah I think, well, keep an eye on it. We'll see when it passes, if it gets through the Senate, which I'm pretty sure it will. We'll update you and follow up on it. And next we got, I put in a little, put a laugh break in here because I've been holding onto this Babylon Bee story for a couple of weeks. I think this is actually from last year. They made this video.
01:04:52
Speaker
You can go back 10 years. Yeah, yeah, I could. The story is, or the the video is how to talk to your racist MAGA uncle at Thanksgiving.
01:05:05
Speaker
I figured it'd fit right in. i have the i have the clip here in
01:05:13
Speaker
in the show, and i think we'll take a look at it. I have the whole thing here. It's a couple minutes, but we'll see how far we can get with it. This is how you talk to your racist uncle at Thanksgiving, or just family in general.
01:05:29
Speaker
So you're heading home for Thanksgiving, but your family supports Trump. Not good. You're probably wondering, how can I show them I'm a good, tolerant person and they're all terrible, intolerant people?
01:05:45
Speaker
And how can i find common ground with these rednecks who are literally Hitler? Well, you're in luck because I too am a good person who likes to share my superiority with those around me.
01:06:00
Speaker
Today, we're going to show you how to talk about Trump with your racist uncle this Thanksgiving. First, try slowly and articulately explaining to him how he is a racist, a bigot, a Nazi, and just an overall garbage person.
01:06:19
Speaker
You can even use simple visual aids if you want to. Next, you can help educate your backward, bigoted family members by handing out copies of Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility. This thoughtful holiday gift will endear them to you and open up the door for more conversation later.
01:06:37
Speaker
Now, sometimes your family might disagree with you and attempt to use far-right tactics, yeah such as facts and logic. Handing her book called Basic Economics. Fourth, you can easily get through to these MAGA bigots, or maggots, for short, by reenacting the entirety of Hamilton. Yes.
01:07:00
Speaker
Let it never be said that you threw away your shot. Yeah.
01:07:07
Speaker
The funniest part was handing the book over basic economics written by a black man, Thomas Sowell. Thomas Sowell, yes. ah It ends with the suggestion of if everything else fails, well, they they go on, to if that doesn't work, scream into the sky.
01:07:24
Speaker
um And then they finish with, and if that all that fails, there's always a good old food fight. Which i thought was a great way to yeah, I mean, that's exactly how ah most family arguments end is food fights. We'll put the link to that in the yeah website. can watch it.
01:07:41
Speaker
um and the Yeah, check out the blog. was i didn't mention in the last thing. This will be in the blog. We'll try to do some more of these. ah When we do with a clip like that, I'll put the video in there if we can and check it out, take the whole thing out. And like like you were saying, it's it's much funnier with the video because she's drinking a lot at one point. The video is pretty good.
01:08:03
Speaker
ah Your racist MAGA uncle. It had that little break in there because the next, you know, it's all this legislation and critters are, you know, they're still they're still back there. They're still back there. So they're not going anywhere.
01:08:16
Speaker
They were very busy. So they have a property tax, sweeping property tax bills that were passed in the last week. I think five at least I saw. ah there Four or five. There's four. I see four, but I think there was another one too. Yeah. The next story is is also another. It's a different one of these. So the...
01:08:41
Speaker
I have a link in here from political Ohio Political News, X account, which they posted a picture, sweeping property tax reform. you got a House Bill 129, House Bill 186, House Bill 309, and House Bill 335. And then I believe our next story with the auditor one is another one, which is House Bill 124.
01:09:03
Speaker
House Bill 129, according to this, implements a check on tax hikes by counting emergency, substitute incremental growth, conversion levies, and the property tax portion of combined levies toward the 20 mil floor, closing loopholes, slowing, and slowing tax spikes.
01:09:25
Speaker
So this was one of the major points they had was you've got a 20 mile floor so you can only go so low, but there are a lot of ah levees that get passed that aren't counted on that 20 mile floor, like emergencies and substitute and that kind of stuff.
01:09:38
Speaker
And those are not, cannot be, but they're not as regulated as the 20 mile floor. So this, or it's an addition to, so all these now would be combined into that 20 mile floor.
01:09:55
Speaker
I think that will do something.
01:09:58
Speaker
The next one is ah a House Bill 186. It establishes a new inflation cap credit that prevents increases prevents increases in school district taxes from exceeding the rate of inflation, giving $1.7 billion dollars back to taxpayers, providing another $800 million in relief to homeowners over the next four years by phasing out the non-business credit.
01:10:26
Speaker
Okay. House Bill 309 slashes unnecessary collections by expanding the county budget commissioners, commission's authority to modify levies and trim high mileage rates, high millage rates, shielding Ohioans from overly excessive tax bills.
01:10:48
Speaker
And House Bill 335 caps the inside millage increase to inflation, ensuring no large spikes
Property Tax Reforms and Politics
01:10:56
Speaker
in unvoted tax increases and providing $763 million dollars in property tax relief over the next three years.
01:11:05
Speaker
Whew, that was a lot. And the next one the other one for the property part is House Bill 124 passed the Ohio Senate Oh, it's, well, it has passed into House Senate. If signed, it's going to go to DeWine's desk. We'll give county many auditors the responsibility to determine the sales data used to assess property values.
01:11:31
Speaker
So it's getting, bill requires the Department of Taxation use a sample of property sales provided by each county auditor rather than selecting the property sales data from each county itself as it does now.
01:11:47
Speaker
So I think as ah as it is now, the county auditor was picking the data? Yeah, property sales data from each county
01:12:00
Speaker
So it seems like they're going to do a little more regulation on on how you calculate property value in your county.
01:12:08
Speaker
What was your take?
01:12:11
Speaker
On less than there? Not on all of it, really, but oh i going to do any stuff is it going to do anything? No. why Why all of a sudden all these bills? Oh, because ah I think it's, because its I think 2026 is going to be interesting as far as property taxes go.
01:12:27
Speaker
Yeah, i think um I think you're right. think this is a last-ditch effort to show some progress, even though over the last 10 or 15 years they've done almost nothing. And then all of a sudden, now that we have lobbyistsforcitizens.com and axtheohiotax.com, I think it's called, or should probably put that in the show notes.
01:12:50
Speaker
All of a sudden, all they're all stepping up and saying, oh, we got do this. We got to do that. Oh, look at look look what we did. We did this. sweep We put a 15th Band-Aid over the other, you know, ah on top of the pile of Band-Aids we already have on our crazy tax system we have in Ohio.
01:13:04
Speaker
I think they're trying to make their job easier in the long run. They're doing a lot of work now, so they don't have to do that much work later.
01:13:16
Speaker
and you know, just because they don't want that to get on the... on the ballot, the abolishment of our property tax. Yeah. They're not actually think and do work and figure out a different way to fund all this stuff. Right.
01:13:31
Speaker
And that they don't want to do. So they'd rather just keep doing this stuff. Credits on top of credits, on top of this, on top of that. We're give this person an ability to do that. And this person in the millage and 20 mil floor. And it's like,
01:13:44
Speaker
How about thought we just lop it all off and start all over again and figure out a better way to do this instead of just fixing, making what is already broke more broken? Yeah. Well, I think we could do that with a lot of things.
01:13:58
Speaker
Yes.
01:14:02
Speaker
But it wouldt and and that would make that make them have to actually work a full job, like a full-time job. Or close to it. I still wouldn't be a full-time job.
01:14:14
Speaker
And they don't want to do that, funny enough. don't know. It's amazing. And ah so there's a lot a lot there. I don't know if all these other things are what they're going to do. i mean, I give them credit. It's something.
01:14:26
Speaker
um I don't know. just i can't make sense of it. it's so there's so much I mean, we're going have to wait two or three years to see if any of this actually comes it comes true.
01:14:38
Speaker
Well, okay, so House Bill 129, 186, 309, and 335, they've just gone through the House. Yes. So they still have to go into the Senate. Yes. ah it's on i' I don't think these are not ready to go to his desk, no. I think they still have to hit the Senate.
01:14:58
Speaker
Yeah, because we don't have a ah link to any of that. Yeah, it's just a post on X. Yeah.
01:15:06
Speaker
Yeah, as far as we know, they're past the House, and that's it. They're probably on their way to the Senate. Now, 124 that we talked about is on its way to Dwayne's desk. and these These will be, I mean, ah barring any craziness that's in there, I believe they're going to go right through the Senate, probably get passed.
01:15:23
Speaker
You know, Ohio Political News, what the hell, man? they post All they did was post a screenshot of these bills and not even showing who...
01:15:36
Speaker
Who's from? That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah.
01:15:44
Speaker
so Well, they imply that Senate representative Dave Thomas. Maybe that's probably, maybe it's got a seal up there. know what that seal is. Probably Ohio Republican seal or something. i'm Ohio iowa House of Representatives. It looks like it came from Ohio House. Maybe ah the House site or the Dave Thomas. That's the seal on the.
01:16:04
Speaker
Dave Thomas posted the same thing. Yeah. So, i'll yeah, but he didn't, he didn't post the actual linkk link. Link, yeah. He just posted, he posted the same screenshot.
01:16:14
Speaker
And a shoddy screenshot. I mean, he didn't get the whole thing. I mean, come on. Yeah, you suck Dave Thomas. I don't know if, is that Dave Thomas? Not the Wendy's Dave Thomas. Yeah. No, he's got good burgers. No, David Thomas, he posted. The same exact picture? Yes. Okay.
01:16:30
Speaker
Yeah. I just assumed it was the Ohio political news who cropped it wrong when they, when they clipped it, but no. No, it was David Thomas. Oh, here it's, it's posted. i got it.
01:16:42
Speaker
No, what the hell? Ohio house GOP on X, but they just posted ah A screenshot also.
01:16:54
Speaker
what Nice. Yeah, it's weird. I've seen what a quick click Google search comes up with for Ohio sweeping tax changes.
01:17:08
Speaker
It does have a couple articles. Newsweek, Cleveland.com, poised to enact sweeping. Oh, that's hemp regulations. Yeah. Yeah, it's Ohio sweeping tax changes. doesn't... i got I got it. It looks like it's a ah a press release from the Ohio House of Representatives. Yeah, that's still passed by the House. It's still not passed by the Senate.
01:17:37
Speaker
Uh, one proposed bill. Yeah. got look at it in Newsweek article. Yeah. This week, the House of Representatives and Senate passed four bill, a four bill package that is now heading to Governor DeWine's desk.
01:17:48
Speaker
This is as of this article. Give me a date, people. Oh, November 20th. So that's recent. That's up to up to date. So it looks like they have gone through. Yeah. Maybe they yeah they' they're good they're headed to our desk.
01:18:02
Speaker
Yep. Okay. Okay. Well, he signed them. Yeah. He will. Okay. I think he vetoed some of these because he didn't like the wine. Yeah. He vetoed these because he didn't like them crammed into the budget bill, which is only supposed to be for the budget, technically.
01:18:15
Speaker
Yeah, and he wanted everybody to look into it a little bit more. And vote on it individually, which, I mean, as much as we make fun of DeWine, that's fair. That's what we want. that's I don't want these, like we talked about, the catch-all bill.
01:18:26
Speaker
you know it's Yeah, yeah. I get it. so So good on him, I guess. It would have been easier just to do it in the budget, but... But actually, this is probably more democratic, Tom. It's more democratic.
Marijuana Legislation and Listener Engagement
01:18:38
Speaker
So yeah, well, I'll put another another one in but through your article. Mine, this has more details and what it is. That way you can give more context for our wonderful listeners.
01:18:51
Speaker
Racist Muggle Uncle, we got that one. Okay. Next on the Critter Corner list is the dang Republicans keep messing with the pot.
01:19:03
Speaker
Keep messing with the pot, Tom. they're therere They've been going through legislation, and another one they they found, it's so important, they've got to ban THC, hemp THC products, that they stayed to the wee hours in the morning.
01:19:15
Speaker
Maybe, never mind, I'm not going to go there. I wonder which pot growers are donating to their campaigns. Well, it seems as though that may, i don't know if that's going to be,
01:19:32
Speaker
Well, let's put let's go let's go to the story. they They've been trying to do this whole ban on tes hemp high intoxicated hemp products, THC intoxicated hemp products.
01:19:44
Speaker
So there's a new ban on that. That's what they passed. But they were also they're also trying to peel back some of the recreational law that was passed by the voters and recriminalize some of it.
01:19:57
Speaker
What? Really? Yeah. yeah So here's News Channel 5. Morgan Trow. More Morgan Trow on the marijuana. Let's go here and hit that button. On the marijuana side, cities with dispensaries will finally get a part of the tax revenue from sales. But there were additional provisions added that Cleveland Democrat bride Rose Sweeney says aren't fair. If passed and signed into law, we'll go back on what the people voted on. It will find it finds more ways to recriminalize Ohioans for being basic users. New provisions would make it illegal to have marijuana in your car in some instances. The changes could also jeopardize jobs if someone tests positive for THC. Cleveland area Republican Jamie Callender says that he will be tackling the criminalization issues. We will have some and legislation introduced as soon as Friday potentially that will start adding to the protections that those folks who are consumers, legal consumers have.
01:21:01
Speaker
Although he voted yes, he says that this was a tough decision for him. He's been leading the charge to protect marijuana access for years. And he says that this deal could have been worse. I'm not done fighting for recreational use.
01:21:16
Speaker
This was not a home run, but let's call it a single. The Senate is set to come back in December and will likely concur on the deal. At the Ohio Statehouse, I'm Morgan Trout reporting.
01:21:27
Speaker
Hey, Morgan, up your sound again. Jesus. It sounded like crap. Did it? Yeah. It sounded awful. It's like she's talking into an empty box.
01:21:42
Speaker
Hmm. It didn't sound too bad on my end. hey No, it's terrible. It's typical from a Channel 5. From all of them, actually. Nowadays, it is. I mean, that's just her talking into a really cheap mic.
01:21:59
Speaker
ah Yeah, they could always, like we said in the the Snap thing, it's like, come on. You can't get a little better audio. So that's so how it's always astonishing me how how easy it is to get good audio and yet companies with million dollar budgets can't do it.
01:22:14
Speaker
They are, you know, so they've they're banning hemp intoxicating products, but except for, now here's where your question might apply, except for ah ah breweries. So the the lot the brewery libraries is strong in Ohio apparently because that's the only people that are allowed to sell hemp or THC with hemp with THC in it you know hemp drinks that' that's what they but that's only they got money and so does the marijuana industry that's who's trying to stop this sure I don't think they're succeeding because they're so they they did in fact federally what do you mean with the last bill what what do you mean
01:22:55
Speaker
Oh yeah, they banned hemp. Oh yeah, yeah, that's coming up. Delta 8 and Delta 10, I believe is the main one. you're saying they want the the marijuana dispensaries want to ban that too?
01:23:08
Speaker
Growers want to ban that? Yeah, because I guess it it cuts into the into their stuff. is that They're not growing or selling that. that's Actually, funny enough, I believe that whole hemp, Delta 8 or Delta 9, whatever it's called.
01:23:20
Speaker
Delta 9 is still legal. right, and through a dispensary type of thing. I think Delta 8 is the one that is in the health products. 8 and 10 are the ones that are over the counter.
01:23:32
Speaker
And it was explained to me as a loophole in, I think, the first Trump administration's agricultural bill, which gave much less on hemp, which is mainly, if you're growing hemp for wood or paper, it's mainly male plants, I guess, which have a way lower THC level.
01:23:52
Speaker
I don't know. And that's that's the loophole. That's how that all started coming about. a friend of mine was telling me this yeah while back. And i was going, yeah, well, that'll be... They're going to regulate that for sure. And it took a long enough, but now here they go. But that federal ban, it comes up at the end of the year. So this, the drinks at the breweries are good until then.
01:24:14
Speaker
ah They left room in in the bill in case the federal ban gets overturned and they can relook at this bill again and, or overturn this bill in Ohio, I guess.
01:24:25
Speaker
They mentioned that in the story. And the good news, which is I think is why this was voted, especially by the congressman that was in the, and the the Republican that was in the clip, is because it actually makes them supposedly get the money that the cities were promised in the original amendment that was passed.
01:24:51
Speaker
It's been like three, or four years now. And they haven't seen a penny to the sort of local municipalities who have dispensaries. So this will get some money to to local governments, which, you know, they can always use more money to waste on something because you know they're not going to fix potholes with that money.
01:25:12
Speaker
All right. So that's that's that's more about the pot. More about the pot. You going say something?
01:25:22
Speaker
How was it a single, yeah not a home run? I mean, i know it's not a home run. but How was it even a single? Just just that we have some recreational? ah The money, I think. That was one of the biggest things. That was the, okay. He complained that but in the amendment, it says the cities get X amount of the cut and the state has given none of it out.
01:25:42
Speaker
Right. Okay. So now you need another bill. So are they going to listen to, they didn't listen to the constitutional amendment. Are they going listen to this? We'll see. I have my doubts, but let's see what happens.
01:25:54
Speaker
I got one in my area. I wouldn't, I mean, if you're going to put one here, I'd at least like it to the tax bonus from it in some way. It's a couple of potholes, maybe.
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Health and Education Debates
01:26:42
Speaker
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01:27:18
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So send it out to your friends. Get more people interested. so Let us know more what else we need to cover. Moving along. Ohio bill would remove hep B from their pre-K vaccinating list. Oh my gosh, the horror.
01:27:37
Speaker
Why is it even there? oh Well, you know, I've always questioned that too because my all my kids, just for the record, all my kids are vaccinated fully. Now, if you ask me if i would if they were born now, if I'd be doing the same thing, I'm not sure.
01:27:53
Speaker
I did ask the doctor though, when we first did it, and of course she was all for it, but what else was she going to say? She, she's got a quota to hit. So this bill, how bill does it have a bill number? Yeah.
01:28:05
Speaker
Bill 561 introduced by Melanie Miller, Republican Ashland and Monica Rob Blastell are Republican of new Waterford.
01:28:18
Speaker
Well, Two moms, probably. ah One of the main goals of the bill, according to the sponsors, is to underscore medical, religious, and exceptions um that already exist in Ohio law with regard to vaccines.
01:28:39
Speaker
So this isn't like a banning of the vaccine. You can still get it if you want. you just don't It's not required that your kid has it to get into preschool or childcare for public school.
01:28:52
Speaker
Because we know all those babies are sticking needles in their arms. Yes, and I did look at a little bit into what is hepatitis B and what is some of the stuff. and it you know In general, it's basically you you get an antiviral in you and it goes away. There is what they call it, continuous or chronic hepatitis or whatever, where it you you'll have this your whole life, a chance or an ongoing, you get infection all the time, supposedly, something that effect. So this, there is a reason, I just don't.
01:29:27
Speaker
No, there's no reason. I mean, They tell you there is, but they... But it's like bronchitis. you You can get bronchitis and then have it for the rest of your life, or you can get bronchitis once and then not... I mean, so I could see where some people would want to have it.
01:29:43
Speaker
I just... You got to balance the risk and reward, in my opinion. And I'm not sure there's a lot of reward to the amount of risk in giving your your infant child 19 vaccines. I don't... So I think this is good. i It gives you the choice.
01:30:01
Speaker
But they do make a point that hepatitis B is on the rise in co in Florida. they So else now say hepatitis B you get from blood, semen, or other other bodily fluids.
01:30:13
Speaker
Why do you need to put that in a newborn?
01:30:17
Speaker
to to take the other side of it because at a certain age you can't give, and i't I'm not sure you can give kids the right medicine if they get it. And you can get it from your mom, you can get it from other people.
01:30:30
Speaker
a he said Okay, test the mom first. Yes. and If mom gets it while while she's pregnant, she can give it to them too and and then after. So there there is a slight risk there. um To say there's no risk is, I don't think, correct. That's that's where I'm going with it I'm not saying i agree that you need to give your kid. I've i've always wondered why I'm going give my Life is a risk. Come on. Sure.
01:30:53
Speaker
Yeah. But like, like I said, it's not banning the shot. It's just not requiring you to put it in your kid to get into school, which is why I think it should be. If you want to give your kid the shot, give your kid a damn shot. I don't care.
01:31:08
Speaker
These are two very brave Republicans doing this. They waited for there to be a Robert Kennedy before they're there. that's That's a good point.
01:31:19
Speaker
They waited for the cover. Yeah. Yeah. i mean, there are going be anti-vax anyway, just because you're not forcing it upon somebody who makes you anti, I guess.
01:31:31
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Right.
01:31:34
Speaker
Yeah. i've I kind of always wondered that too. What, why it's it seems like a low risk for the reward. Oh, I would say most of them aren't. I mean, most of them are, I should say.
01:31:45
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I mean, growing up, but I think I had seven back in the day when I got vexed. Now there's like almost 70. It's ridiculous. it's I think in the 20s, actually.
01:31:58
Speaker
depends on It depends on how how many you want to count it, shots or vaccines. Vaccines, because a lot of the shots contain ah five or six vaccines, right? Yeah. Yes, but the actual vaccines you get vaccinated for is like 15 or 20. It's not 70. You may have, you may end up getting 70 shots over the five year period, but it's not 70 different vaccines.
01:32:25
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like they They do do combination ones where it's it's one shot with three different vaccines in it, but it's not 70.
01:32:34
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think it's like 20 something. It's way more than it used to be. It's to ah to your point. It's why, why? And then why are you so worried about, you know measles when, if if you're vaccinated, you should be fine.
01:32:52
Speaker
weird, always weird to me. They get, ah okay, they get 72 doses of yeah vaccine by the time they're 18. That's huge. Yeah, but but over for like 15 or 20 different vaccines, or diseases, I should say. 15, it says.
01:33:09
Speaker
Yeah, because they get in stages. still That's still crazy. Well, yeah, it's it's it's, you were vaccinated for six or seven ah diseases or whatever, and now it's like 20.
01:33:21
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And according to RFK,
01:33:26
Speaker
he he believes that, what did he say? That to get on that list, to get on the ped of track you know the CDC or whoever's child vaccination recommendation list it is like printing a billion dollars a year, automatic. get on that list, it's billion dollars a year.
01:33:44
Speaker
So... When you're asking why we have so many vaccines for kids, you know, could be, could be part of the problem. Could be. We need that intro to money.
01:33:57
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I pink Floyd. Like
01:34:03
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that one. That's not the one, but can do that one. ah That's a long one. That's this one. That's the one. Yeah. That's it. utter That's That's I mean, again, if you want it, you you could take it if you want it. I'm up so i'm not trying to say you can't.
01:34:19
Speaker
I don't care what they put in their body. I'm just saying yeah you shouldn't be forced to. No, exactly. and that's what this does. Basically, if anyone's going to cry, you can still get it, but you don't have to not. And if your kid's vaccinated and mine isn't, then what are you worried about?
01:34:34
Speaker
Still never has never been explained to me. The ah next real quick, we'll touch on this because this kind of ties into the the last election we just had with all the levies. Ohio.news says, Ohioans refuse to pay more taxes as school levies fail in the northeastern part of the state.
01:34:54
Speaker
And I went, oh, cool. Yeah, that's there's a lot of failed around me. oh I guess guess in a way they're correct, but not the way I look at it. So the stats are really this.
01:35:06
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Out of 38 school ballots issues in Ohio, or in Northeast Ohio, excuse me, 23 passed and 15 failed.
01:35:18
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but that ah So then they go, oh, well, according to New Channel 5, if you take away renewal levies, then levies that would raise tax passed or that were not intended to raise taxes passed 18 out of 20 times.
01:35:35
Speaker
And the ones intended to raise taxes failed seven out of 10 times. Yeah, that's how they get you. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, no, I, yeah, no.
01:35:46
Speaker
They, if you vote to extend a levy, you are voting to increase your taxes, in my opinion. Now, with the new tax reform, heard isn't that going to be... our Harder, if not harder to do now. Yeah.
01:36:05
Speaker
So that's good. They got rid of a lot of them because I think most people look it and go, wow I'm paying it already. you Might as well keep paying. Yeah. I always look at it as, Oh, if I vote for it, I am voting because generally without any levy, it would expire and you would get a tax decrease. So to me, extending the tax levy increases your taxes.
01:36:25
Speaker
Yeah. so Well, i yeah I agree. I just yeah think most people don't look at it that way Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, it's already, I'm already paying it. But yeah, I'm thinking, oh, no, I can get a little bit more money in my pocket. And I think, ah I think a lot of these are going to go away. Like we talked about with all these bills and they're going to end.
01:36:41
Speaker
They're going to get smaller begin with because they're include them all into the 20 mil floor. Right. Which will lower the entire total. So then having 20 mil floor plus two of the levees or emergency or extensions, it's all going to be under the 20 mil floor.
01:36:58
Speaker
There's going lot of crying going They're already started. So it's time to get your hard shell around your heart in place because they're coming for it. Trust me, they're coming for it.
01:37:13
Speaker
They are coming... For the children. Yes, they are. Coming for
Community Development Concerns
01:37:18
Speaker
the children. Thank you, Nancy. So keep an eye out or, keep you know, read past the headline. And this is only actually not not too bad for Ohio.News. It's only the second paragraph. Usually they put that like in the 20th paragraph.
01:37:32
Speaker
So that was that. And next on our list is another quick hit here to touch on these data centers that's becoming plague, seems like, in Ohio. laura I've been watching this kind of for a couple months now. Lorain County has been debating on taking a 2,000-acre site and making it a mega site.
01:38:01
Speaker
but So it seems like, seems that seems like they're hiding it. We call it a mega site, but 2000 acre mega site in Lorain County, ah citing farmland. ah Some residents are opposing it because they're citing the farmland loss and ah population pollution concerns.
01:38:18
Speaker
So what they want to do is they want to take, they run a rezone 2000 acres to make it industrial so they can put data centers on it. And they've been going back and forth. They've got signs all over the rain. No mega site, no mega site. And the recent update is the township of New Russia Township has passed.
01:38:40
Speaker
The Lorain County Planning Commission, I should say, has taken a vote. I had to take a vote Thursday deciding on what they're going to do with this land and basically passed it for 500 acres. it's it's It can be rezoned.
01:38:53
Speaker
What they gave permission for it to be rezoned. I don't know what it seemed like to me. Not that it's actually been rezoned, but then the this the county now has the ability to rezone it. so that you could put data centers on it.
01:39:06
Speaker
And most people are complaining because in a lot of cases, this this will change your community permanently. and You moved out to the sticks to have nice quiet, get away from the city, and they're bringing the city to you and in like the worst way.
01:39:23
Speaker
Yep. The worst of the city. It's like they're bringing the city to you without any of the convenience of a city. None of the positives, just all the negatives. You got all the noise, the pollution, taking up farmland and barely any jobs.
01:39:38
Speaker
Definitely after the construction is done, there'll be no there'll be like 10 jobs and the for 2,000 acres. Unsightly too. Oh yeah, unsightly, noisy. And just but some at some people have said like,
01:39:52
Speaker
the sub vibrations and the, the low hum of the fans at messing with people, the, the, I mean, you've got thousands of computers and there's all kinds of stuff going on there that I don't think they've really gotten down to the bottom of what those effects are in people. But I think for once,
01:40:13
Speaker
it it it's actually a bonus to be in the suburbs because it's pretty much there's not going be a data center in my backyard because this house is there already. So if you're in rural area.
01:40:25
Speaker
I mean, it just depends on the individual, but this isn't good for the people that, you know, wanted a quiet rural life. Yeah. Like I mentioned in the last time we talked about this, a couple people I know are, they just moved in three months ago, five five to 10 acres surrounded by farmland. and like, oh, this is going to be our nice little, our little home.
01:40:47
Speaker
And then three months later, they're putting the data centers back. that That was, they didn't do due diligence. That was their own fault. Yeah. Not that they, I mean, not that they should have. Needed to, but needed to nowadays you do. And that's kind of, sorry, cut you off.
01:41:01
Speaker
No, that's, no, that's all right. ah That's my, my point is keep informed. If you're in a rural area or moving into a rural area, this is probably one of the biggest things you need to be looking out for because they're putting these things in and it's, it's a, it's a very long process.
01:41:15
Speaker
So you should know what's in,
01:41:20
Speaker
You should be able to look into it even if they're six, eight months out from making a decision. it It's a lot of times takes that long. Yeah. Talk to the people that own land around there. It might be, you know, it might look like farmland, but they might just be leasing it to a farmer and that that owner could, could get rid of it. Yep. And that's what my, uh,
01:41:40
Speaker
person I know is a couple of people that, yeah, well, the farmers are old and they're looking for exit strategy. And they're the only people for it in the county or in the city are the two farmers that were selling the land. Right. Oh, and the city council because taxes, taxes. And they put a feather in their cap because they put, they added 10 jobs last year or whatever.
01:42:00
Speaker
I mean, a balance. There has to be a balance. I get that the some of the need for some of these. i just My biggest problem with these data centers is they're not it's not scalable. it's not it's not You can't keep it this pace. I mean, something's got to give. I think it's a bubble, and I think ah in the next few years, it's going to pop. You're going see a lot less of these. And i would I would assume some of these are going to, you know, at at some point, stop being used, but I could be wrong. out they They have to, right? I mean, and just to as technology grows, right?
01:42:30
Speaker
Things get faster and cheaper, less power. and They've already seen huge strides in last year with AI and and different language models or whatever using a lot less processing power to get the same amount of work done.
01:42:44
Speaker
ah For example, it was one of the reasons Microsoft pulled a billion-dollar project out of Western Ohio for data centers. They bought a bunch of land and they're just going to lease it out, like were saying, until they need it, if they need it.
01:42:55
Speaker
And one of the one of the reasons they said was because of the... ah Innovations and using less processing power so they don't need as many servers.
01:43:07
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All right, enough of that. So that's a quick, just keep an eye out, you know, in your area, especially in front of rural area because they could pop one of these up if you're not paying attention.
01:43:16
Speaker
If you're on it's surrounded by farmland, be aware. Next on the list,
License Plates and Social Commentary
01:43:22
Speaker
your license plate is gay. Not mine. Oh, not yours, but his license plate is literally, it says gay, G-A-Y.
01:43:31
Speaker
So interesting little story here. I got a couple clips. It's pretty good. So Lakewood man reveals in, or revels in receiving previously rejected gay, G-A-Y, license plate from the BMV.
01:43:44
Speaker
So this guy, William Sacki, or Sacki, how do they pronounce it in the clip? um He got his new his new license plate. He's very happy about it. Let's hear from him.
01:43:55
Speaker
Wait, there we go. The guidelines were... very squishy, I think we could say. That's where First Amendment attorney Brian Bardwell got involved, looking beyond the laughs and the groans behind some of those rejected license plate requests.
01:44:13
Speaker
Somebody wanted Jack Daniels abbreviated and they allowed that, but they wouldn't allow Jim Beam. Somebody wanted Zinfandel and that's fine, but you couldn't have Cabernet. That's How on earth do you fit Zinfandel on a license plate? You take out the vowels. you take out That's the first rule of vanity plates is you strike out all the vowels and you cram in as many consonants as you can. Why are we discriminating between the whites and the reds? um you know This is America. All colors are allowed, whether it's people or whites.
01:44:40
Speaker
So there's a little background to it. so that There's a lot of license plates that are banned, apparently. Hang on. I got to clean my ears out to get the gay out. i don't think ah ah that That was the lawyer, not the, um not William, by the way. Oh, Still. He brings up, yes, he brings up a a couple of points, and they they flash a couple of these ah license plates that apparently are banned in Ohio.
01:45:06
Speaker
And so I brought a few of them down, so maybe can figure out some of these. One is I-H-8-T-O-H. eight t o h
01:45:18
Speaker
So would be I hate Ohio. Another one called, another one that was as N-U-K-E-O-H, this Nuke Ohio. Interesting ones. K-O-K-A-N. Cocaine.
01:45:37
Speaker
Cocaine.
01:45:40
Speaker
why would you want to put that on your oh a-i-n no it's just k-o-k-a-n is how they they ask for it oh okay i know it's not phonetically but again take out the values like vowels i guess well no that's there's an a there's an o and a but the next one is even better heroin was a rejected license plate it sounds like somebody was just like let's see if they'll take this one that's why would you put heroin on your license plate i don't know do you love it that much and Well, apparently. Yeah. Surprised they were awake enough to ask for it. Yeah. it was
01:46:14
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You might get pulled over in a higher a higher rate than normal with either one of those. ah This is a good one. This might be one for ah for us here. ah i base h t space HT space PPL.
01:46:27
Speaker
I hate people. That's another one. This one's like H8KIDS. Yeah. k id s i I hate kids or hate kids. called hate kids.
01:46:40
Speaker
Now here's the test. What does this one mean? Here's a, here's a plate request. Oops. That request is I H X I C H. I looked at that. I can't,
01:46:56
Speaker
I tried looking it up and there there were really no good explanations for that. same Anyone knows out there is listening. i it's all one word, all one thing. It's I H X I C H. I don't know what that means. I've tried to figure it out. i Dick's itch is what I heard, but without the D. Dick's itch.
01:47:17
Speaker
That's the, i I tried looking that one up and i I can't, I can't figure out a good, why they would want that. So I got a couple more clips here because we're not done just yet. We have, i think this is from William.
01:47:31
Speaker
This next one is.
01:47:34
Speaker
We did reach out to the Ohio BMV for this story. Problem is they're dealing with another lawsuit involving the same attorney. Wait a minute. There's just so much gay going on. I know. what Wait, hold on. Is this the one?
01:47:45
Speaker
This fall, William Sakai received his plate. I'm just very proud to have this plate. And already feels his message is out there and being seen. i notice people pointing and taking photos when I drive by. It is it puts a smile on my face. I like it.
01:48:03
Speaker
oh Look at the gay guy go by. He thinks they're going, oh, look, he's so cool. He's got no. you Your car is posted. Your car is posted all over social media. And not in a great way, I don't think.
01:48:16
Speaker
Oh. I mean, hey, more power to you. but Look at the gay car go by. um i mean, it literally is. That's what it is. gay car. I mean, so he's got the license plate gay. He was very happy to get it.
01:48:32
Speaker
And hey, more power to you. If you want if you want gay, no license plate. i don't care. But there might be. So they they asked the BMV for comment. And that's what i was playing before. And they they they said no, because they've got another case. The same lawyer.
01:48:44
Speaker
We did reach out to the Ohio BMV for this story. Problem is they're dealing with another lawsuit involving the same attorney over this license plate request that's making its way to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals.
01:48:56
Speaker
but a guy who whoops So the license plate is. And I think you've seen this F46 space FJB.
01:49:11
Speaker
Finish the clip. whether or not this is a meaningless flow of letters and numbers or or if it's derogatory language directed at former president Joe Biden. I think we know what that is. So I give the lawyer credit. He's trying to get both of these license plates in and they're, you know, he's, he's equal opportunity annoyer.
01:49:30
Speaker
So he's, he he's, he's actually, somebody's tried to get a F 46, which would be 46 is Joe Biden. And then FJB of course is F Joe Biden. And, uh, I mean, that'd be a great license plate.
01:49:44
Speaker
I mean, what I was expecting to see was 86, 47, but I didn't see that one. Oh, you're probably getting people ideas. No, they'd probably allow that one. I would say for sure.
01:49:55
Speaker
so that's it. no there So the bottom line of this story is the ah the BMV has agreed to review its process for plate approval. Because like the guy said, Jack Daniels was okay, but not Jim Beam.
01:50:08
Speaker
Like there's no rhyme or reason. That's kind of what ah kind of the point was is there's there's no
01:50:14
Speaker
There's no process to approval. it's just It's just at the whim of whoever, I guess, is in front of the computer. Whoever's looking at it. Yeah, whoever's looking at it Because Jim Beam or Jack Daniels, what the heck's the difference? like why would one So one person said yes, and then the next person said no, I i would assume.
01:50:28
Speaker
Oh, yeah. F46 FJB. You just FJB. You just do that. And that might get passed if you just FJB. Not now, maybe, but back then, if you gotten rid of the F46.
01:50:42
Speaker
Maybe. They wouldn't have given them the clue. They wouldn't known what that is. And on to what? I'm just thinking about this. It's hilarious. I'm looking at the pictures here. He's putting the his gay plate on a, probably a, this has been banned since 1996. It looks like he's putting it on 1996 Honda.
01:51:06
Speaker
Yes. And I watched his video. And a front plate, too. And a front plate, because he's got to, I mean, you don't need a front plate anymore, but he paid extra for that front plate. Right. You get to pay a couple bucks
Community Stories and Events
01:51:15
Speaker
extra. I'm gay squared.
01:51:16
Speaker
And my question when I saw that video is, did they really make him take that plate off and put it back on just for the camera? Of course they did. Because that's what they did. And is he wearing overalls like he's a working man? ah he might He might be a janitor.
01:51:29
Speaker
mean, he looks like he's wearing a janitor's uniform, not... He's wearing overalls. Yeah, but he's got that blue shirt on. It looked like, you know, he's like going to have like that. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying he couldn't be.
01:51:41
Speaker
Right. No, no. Just a funny optic. It's okay. The other, some of the other ones ah that were banned were ah Muslim, which actually fits without any edits.
01:51:52
Speaker
That was the other they said there. I was like, hey, why? Why is it not okay to have Muslim on your, if you want to have it on there? I wonder if I can get a Catholic.
01:52:04
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. Again, depending on... Oh, Muslim was... Or was it approved? It's been approved after somebody sued. So that's why he was able to get gay. Yep. Okay.
01:52:17
Speaker
Oh, that's what... Okay, that's what it was. So wasn't his lawsuit. was the other one. Okay. All right. oh Yeah, and I never understood the vanity plate thing, but hey, whatever. It's your it's your free expression, as he said. It's my free it's my First Amendment right.
01:52:34
Speaker
I guess. It is the government. I don't care. Yeah, I don't care what you I've seen some good ones. I've seen some bad ones. It doesn't matter. Yeah. um All right. So that's our last of our news stories. On to...
01:52:52
Speaker
Good things and the wrap up of the show for this week or um Thanksgiving week.
01:53:00
Speaker
That's some really good stories here. I think we mentioned Bernie Kosar last week. He had just got out of some procedure. He's been waiting for a liver transplant for a while. he's had some health issues, which...
01:53:12
Speaker
I've known a couple people on a transplant list. And if you're not of good health, you're not the top the list. So it's really hard for you even get anything. But what happened was someone named Kim Kane, right? Is that who it was? Kim Kane. grieving mother turned to Fox 8 team, urging everyone to become an organ donor.
01:53:32
Speaker
And she talked about the decision her family made to offer the transplant to Brown's legend, Bernie Kosar. So her son, Bruce, had a medical emergency and was rushed to the hospital November 9th. The family learned this weekend, just last weekend, that Dunlop was not going to recover.
01:53:49
Speaker
And she had seen the story about Bernie waiting for a liver. And she decided, now, if you're an our organ donor, your family has the ability apparently to pick, if they want, who gets your organs.
01:54:04
Speaker
And they didn't have any family members that needed anything. So they put Bernie on the list for liver and he he got his liver.
01:54:12
Speaker
So I'll tell you what, he already looks way better on the videos I've seen. That's amazing how that, you know, a couple days after surgery, he's already. ah liver trans A liver transplant, they can just use part of the liver, right? Yeah, liver is one of the best ones. You can give like three or four people. Yeah, that's what I thought. like your liver is So yeah, and the liver was one of the only organs that regenerates.
01:54:33
Speaker
itself Right. So you can put a little, little piece in there. i don't know how little, but, uh, and then it'll, it will get bigger and, and and grow to the appropriate size, I guess. I, I just described the Grinch's heart.
01:54:45
Speaker
Shit. Uh, it was weird. don't know why my, my head slightly stupid anyway. So she, you know, it's grieving mom and, and they're bronze fans and, you know, she felt like she did a good thing. So I applaud her for, for that, I guess.
01:55:04
Speaker
And hopefully Bernie could put it to good use. And like I said, yeah man, he looks way better already. Good. Just some of the videos I saw, I mean, his color and everything's better. it's It's amazing how that, how much that works. Next we have, well, if anyone is a fan of horse-drawn carriages...
01:55:24
Speaker
Ohio has its largest horse-drawn carriage parade coming up next month. It is a parade featuring more than 100 decorated carriages pulled by many horses, Clydesdales and Pritcherons.
01:55:40
Speaker
And where is this? This is in Lebanon, Ohio, which is right outside Cincinnati. It's 36th annual. Christmas festival and entertainment begins on December 6th with carriage rides running at 1 p.m. and 7 p.m. So check it out. 36 Angela. It looks pretty cool.
01:55:57
Speaker
They got it all decorated and everything. It's like a ah fun time if you're in the area. And if you're in the area, you probably already know about it. It's 36 years running. So good for them. Keep it up. no No horseback and no motorized vehicles in the parade, period. It's all going to be.
01:56:12
Speaker
It could be a nice date trip. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely nice. That one tank trip, as they used to say. was his name? I forget. Bell? Something like that. ah Next, if you're not in the Cincinnati area, we have a Cleveland Botanical Garden plans for 2025 gingerbread competition.
01:56:37
Speaker
oh but you're not allowed to eat them. So it's just for looking, no eating. So boo on them. but Is this the same one that they used to do at...
01:56:49
Speaker
I remember seeing gingerbread houses at the Terminal Tower during Christmas. Oh, it could be at the Botanical Gardens in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah. I'm wondering if it's the same thing because... Might have moved there, yeah. Much nicer place to have it, actually.
01:57:05
Speaker
19th Annual Competition
Closing Reflections and Gratitude
01:57:06
Speaker
kicks off on November 17th. So it's they're taking... um taking
01:57:13
Speaker
taken entries, I guess, now. um And you could drop off between 8 a.m. and noon at the Botanical Gardens. Ginger recreation will be displayed throughout the gardens frost exhibit, which runs from November 22nd, which is the day we're recording the show, Saturday through January 4th.
01:57:35
Speaker
And by January fourth you're not going to want to eat any of these. So don't don't even think about it. Very stale. Interest will be judged on appearance, creativity, difficulty, precision, and consistency with the theme. First place winners will in each category will receive prizes such as a family family memberships to the Botanical Garden.
01:57:55
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Register is not opened
01:58:00
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uh well registers is open until november 10th so too bad you're out you just go see it now and uh i think that's show 36 isn't it you got anything more youre anything more you're thankful for today um anything you can come up with besides our listeners because i am very thankful for our listeners and and Definitely. I'm thankful that the show is almost over because I really got to go the bathroom.
01:58:33
Speaker
Okay. In that case, uh, I am thankful for having plenty of time off to spend it with my family and I'm sure they will be begging for a break from me sooner than later. So, um,
01:58:48
Speaker
I thank everybody for listening. That was show 36. I appreciate it. Share the show with your friends. CrookedRiverCast.com CrookedRiverCast.gmail.com Send them the links. Tell us where we can be better. Share the show. We thank you for listening.
01:58:59
Speaker
Talk to you next week. Peace.