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Crooked River Cast Show 23
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Context
00:00:02
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Crooked Rivercast. I am Robert, your host for today's show, and joining me every week is my friend Tom to help us keep track of or in front of or whatever your fits your fancy.
00:00:15
Speaker
All the things that are going on in Northeast Ohio. This is show 23, recorded August 23rd, 2025. Another show.
00:00:22
Speaker
two thousand and twenty five another show Another week. Wait, no, the other way around. Let's see what's going on. Hey, Tom. How you doing? In the morning, Rob.
00:00:33
Speaker
In the morning. In the morning. I see you're having ah some bumps in the road this morning. Yeah, it took a couple couple tries on the on the intro. Even when the third try, I screwed it up.
00:00:44
Speaker
But that's okay. We'll roll with it. It's all right. ah Yeah, you know, it was a how was your week? Busy? he ah Yeah, work's getting busier. Oh. oh it was ah It was a decent war decent week. Just went by quick. you know Summer's almost over. It's bumming me out a little bit.
Humor in Nielsen Ratings Survey
00:01:04
Speaker
Yes, we will talk about that towards the of the Somehow I put something to that in the effect, in the good things segment, which I'm not sure it is good things, but we'll talk about that way, way later. Yeah, busy week for me. We we spent little vacation trip out to Cedar Point, which we'll dig in a little deeper later because we have a story that's related conveniently and we can that I can relate to later. but So that was so i think it it probably took me two days to recover from two days at Cedar Point. So that's not bad.
00:01:33
Speaker
No, that's called 50 plus. 50, yeah. Well, yeah, i guess technically I'm 50 plus considering. yeah okay. Damn it. um You know, I just, I just, ah we just got ah ah speaking of that, we just got something in the mail from Nielsen Ratings.
00:01:47
Speaker
ah trying to you know they were Really? They still do that? Yeah, they want surveys and stuff like that. So I think we got one before and thrown away. And this one actually had a legitimate real dollar in it.
00:01:59
Speaker
cash money so i gotta open it right i gotta open it and uh so as i'm looking at the survey gets asked you a bunch these questions like how do you get this and how much do you spot time you spend and then what's your age category and i'm like oh wait a minute wait a minute okay phew 34 to 55 and then 55 plus i'm like yes yeah i'm into 55 plus yet yeah not in into fifty five plus yet Yeah, after 55, they don't really count you
Music Preferences and Discovery
00:02:25
Speaker
too much. Yeah, they only care about you.
00:02:26
Speaker
yeah But you know what? I think that should change, actually. i think i do think that should be bumped up probably, i would say, to 60. Probably 60 plus. figure up because Yeah, I think 55, 56 is still, they're spending money.
00:02:44
Speaker
Because it's all about how much you're spending money. Yeah, that's good point. Yeah, because it's advertised based all about advertising and all that stuff. so Yeah. Yeah, good point.
00:02:54
Speaker
um So that was funny. I thought I got a laugh on that. But I have a question for you, Tom, before we start the show. What's that? Anything in particular you've been listening to this week that may be of interest to the folks? Listening to?
00:03:09
Speaker
Yeah, anything anything you can't get off or your ah of your headphones or off your record player? Yeah, I still have that. What was the last record you put on your turntable? oh it it was Ozzy. It was Bark at the Moon.
00:03:24
Speaker
That makes perfect sense. have been rediscovering Alice in Chains. Yeah, that's good stuff. It's it's always nice to kind of get back ah back into your old old collection.
00:03:37
Speaker
But not even the the newer stuff. The stuff they they came out with in the 2000s. They're still making albums. Oh, okay. Yeah, you know, that shows you how much I'm paying. You know what what the problem is you don't really You don't hear it anywhere, so it's hard to keep up with this stuff unless you're like a...
00:03:54
Speaker
you know, a fan that's like paying attention to what their favorite, you know, their, your few favorite bands are doing. Right. We've talked about this numerous times in the past. Like yeah there's no discovery anymore.
00:04:06
Speaker
Yeah. It's hard. It makes it harder. You have to literally follow bands on social media, go to their websites to know when the new albums are coming out. Yep. Yeah, and Alice in Change, i I do like them. I mean, I'm just not the biggest fan, but I would definitely be interested. Like, I wish ah wish you could turn on the radio and just hear hear yeah spontaneously hear it and go, oh, I'm going to check out this CD.
00:04:31
Speaker
And the other thing I stumbled upon, I think this was during COVID Stone. No. Yeah. Stone Temple. Yeah. Stone Temple Pilots did a, they replayed live in live in studio all their, their first two albums core. And then can't remember the second one with the new singer who resembles crap. I forgot his name.
00:04:53
Speaker
uh i forget his name too gosh darn it totally left my head but resembles him looks wise and uh i tip my tongue and sound wise too is i was like man this sounds really good i mean guys look a little older a little bit the leo brothers are the guys uh who started that band but scott wyland scott wyland yes and uh and the allison chains lead singer was um lane staley yeah who oh Anyone who hasn't checked out Love, Hate, Love by Alice in Chains off their first album, Facelift, and you want to hear about vocals from Lane Staley? ah
00:05:29
Speaker
Unbelievable. Anyway, I just figured I but i was thinking i was listening to, two thousand I think it was a 2009 album from Alice in Chains, and I'm like, man, they sound so good.
00:05:40
Speaker
They still sound good, huh? They still sound good, yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Check it out if you're looking for something new but old to listen to. Yeah, cool. And on to our so list of stories for this week.
00:05:55
Speaker
yeah By the way, I'm going to jump back to into that for a minute. Yeah. What do you use to listen nowadays? I'm on, you know, I usually use Spotify, but, and I do find new stuff on Spotify, but it's like, it's, you know, it's, ah
00:06:13
Speaker
I rarely like what they recommend or what what they kind of throw me in. and And I don't know. it just It's not the best way to find new music. It is not. You would think...
00:06:29
Speaker
You would think with the algorithms algorithms and things like that, you could get pretty close, but it's it's they're too good, it seems. So what I what i use is, I'm in the Apple universe, so we have Apple Music, and they are, they've gotten, but they used to be really bad as far as like their channels and their... Yeah, yeah. That's why... That's one of the reasons I got rid of it.
00:06:51
Speaker
They've gotten better. um i so I mean, I tried Spotify for a while. I didn't think they were much better. i mean, people would say they are maybe they've gotten better. I don't know. um What I've seen that actually is halfway decent for Apple is they have a feature, which I'm sure others do.
00:07:07
Speaker
listening to an album, Bukavec album, let's say, and you hit continuous play, it will then start, after the album's done, it will start recommending songs that are similar to it.
00:07:21
Speaker
That's what Spotify basically does. yeah You could listen to a list and then it'll continue playing stuff. Yeah, and this I thought was new maybe for it because you could go in and create a channel by an artist. all You know, you could all the time. This is almost like doing that right after the first album was played, which I thought was kind of nice.
00:07:40
Speaker
And it actually did a halfway decent job a lot the times with, you know, the first hour after that. then And then it just kind of, like, why are they playing this?
00:07:52
Speaker
Yeah. It devolves into garbage. so It works. But you know what? Like... You might find like a song or two on there, but you know, yeah I guess, I guess the water cooler talk about music is gone.
00:08:06
Speaker
Like, Hey man, did you check out that new album from so-and-so? That's what's kind of missing. I think. Yeah. It's gone to social media. I would imagine. I know, for example, okay. For example, I caught, can't remember how i'm I'm scrolling for stories for the show. Probably Taylor Swift had an announcement that,
00:08:28
Speaker
about an announcement. ah She basically had an announcement that she was coming out with a new album. It was like an announcement about ah pre-sale. You know, it was like, yeah, yeah. And that's what you have to do because you you have to tell them ahead of time and get everybody to get the buzz going because there's there's not no other way he to do it.
00:08:46
Speaker
Yeah. You know, nobody's calling in a radio station requesting, you know requesting songs anymore. And any if they were, they're not playing them anyway. They're playing whatever songs they want to, whatever songs they're told to play. was about that.
00:08:58
Speaker
I haven't listened to radio except for maybe the classic rock station. And I haven't like listened to any new music because, well, frankly, pretty much anything that I would like isn't being played.
00:09:12
Speaker
I believe it have to go look, but I bought my truck a couple years ago. i don't even think I, so I don't think I programmed many, if any radio stations.
00:09:27
Speaker
Yeah, I did that when I bought mine. It was 2018 when I bought it. I did it, but, you know, for a while i was using Sirius because, well, it was the it was free for a few months.
00:09:41
Speaker
And then, ah you know, once I got used to using, like, Apple Play, it just went to Spotify. If I'm listening to music at all, half the time it's podcasts and Joe Rogan or, you know, stuff like that.
00:09:56
Speaker
yeah. So it's hard. And what I'm mainly using is, you know, my phone. i yeah do, I do my, so i so I got the CD player out. I actually bought, bought new, you new old CD player, you know, it's CD player, but it's just a CD player. It's nothing special.
00:10:14
Speaker
And i do use that from, from time to time. I do like putting a CD in there and not having the easy ability to flip to the next song and just let the album play.
00:10:25
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, because you you forget like you forget what the album, like what made you kind of excited about the album. Oh, yeah, this one. Holy crap. I forgot about this deep cut. And that's, you know, Love, Hate, Love on Facelift. I mean, that's it's like Song 9 or something.
00:10:42
Speaker
Right. And the other the other thing was, which was cool when we were younger, when you bought a CD, you'd put the CD on and it took you a few listens to like...
Political Stance on Voting Methods
00:10:52
Speaker
recognize how good some of the other stuff was. sure yeah.
00:10:55
Speaker
You know? Yeah, it would you you might listen to it five or six times before you're like, oh, yeah, that's cool, man. You know, I don't know. Yeah, well, let's get back on track. Yes, yes, that's okay.
00:11:09
Speaker
All right, we're to pull the car back onto the road and talk about mail-in voting. Uh-oh, mail-in voting. Mail-in voting. Uh-oh, spooky mail-in. So we had a truth social post from um President Trump that kind of started this whole this whole thing. And let's but to get through what does Trump say. he says, I'm launching a movement.
00:11:33
Speaker
to end mail-in ballots and those costly, unreliable voting machines, in all caps, which are 10 times pricier then secure than secure watermarked ballots.
00:11:46
Speaker
Paper is quick, clear, and leaves no question about who won or lost an election on election night. He continued... We're the only country still using mail-in voting. That's actually very important.
00:11:59
Speaker
We are the only country still using mail-in voting. Others ditched it due to rampant fraud. By the way, let's let's pause right there for a second. I think what most people... like especially in states like Ohio, forget is that there are states that just get ah the ballot mailed to them without even requesting it.
00:12:19
Speaker
Yes, that's one of the things. That was a problem. I don't know if it's still happening, but that was part of the problem in 2020. There are states it's still happening. Yeah, it is.
00:12:30
Speaker
Because like people go, well, I need to mail in my vote. And it's like, well, if you request it and it's sent in or sent to you and then you mail it back, you know, the way you're supposed do it.
00:12:41
Speaker
I think, I don't think he's talking about like what we have in Ohio. And that's where i was going to get into. Yes. Okay. I got a clip and I'm kind of like, we'll go through it. And I'm kind of like, well, what's everybody in an upper floor plus. And also and in the kind of the Republicans response in Ohio.
00:12:57
Speaker
and and say And same with the voting machines. like we have We don't really have voting machines here in Ohio. We just have a voting counter, but we still have paper ah paper ballots that are, you know, as a backup.
00:13:11
Speaker
Yes. right Right? I mean, and and yeah it's tallying machines. We have paperright either paper either paper ballots that you fill out, or there are some counties that have digital screens that you actually you know touch screens.
00:13:25
Speaker
Does it print it out? And then it prints a ballot for you, for your records. Okay, so as long as there's a records there. See, that's fine with me. um I still, but is he, is or, and that's kind of, let's, let's, let's listen a little bit from channel five. We'll get a little bit more from them and see, see the, oh, the, the hystericalness of this all.
00:13:49
Speaker
Not as bad as I thought, but there's, you know, there's, there's lots of talk about our democracy in there, which still grates me because. Well, they the, the media isn't giving this a fair shake. Yes. That's for sure. Yes.
00:14:02
Speaker
So let's hear what, uh, we gotta get a little bit of Morgan Troll in here, you know? Trow. Trow. I think it's Trow. Is it? I don't know. I gotta listen. How do they pronounce her name?
00:14:13
Speaker
ah did By the way, here's here's here's a little bit about Morgan. We just go by Morgan. We all know who we're talking about. Trow. I think it would be Trow. But anyways, ah looked her up a little bit to see who this person was. And I'm like reading her bio on WEW News.
00:14:33
Speaker
Channel 5 news. Channel 5, yep. Yeah, okay. So here's um new her news philosophy is the news is vital for our democracy and needs to be accessible for all, no matter how difficult the topic.
00:14:46
Speaker
Her favorite music is Taylor Swift and Fleetwood Mac. Her favorite movie, American, see, you know, here's a problem. When somebody says favorite music, it's one thing. You can only have one favorite.
00:15:02
Speaker
Not if you're a reporter who has to spam the entire group. and And her favorite movie is Our American Psycho and Portrait of a Lady on Fire. ah Let's see.
00:15:17
Speaker
Oh, this is great. Favorite book. Okay, now, i when they say favorite, it's one. It's Hamlet or anything by Sylvia Plath, Toni Morrison, or Andre Lord. So who knows how many favorite books she has? She's lots of favorites.
00:15:31
Speaker
Yeah. Now this is this one this is her favorite food. She only picked one favorite food. this is where I find her. I think, i think she's, well, her favorite food is sumo oranges.
00:15:45
Speaker
Communist. No, I, I think, I think she's a sociopath.
00:15:51
Speaker
Nobody picks oranges as a favorite food. i don't care how good they are. There's fried chicken, for Christ's sake. Oranges. my. Well. and and And my favorite is her hidden talent.
00:16:06
Speaker
Now, a hidden talent is something you worked at, I think, right? Well, maybe not. I guess. I don't know. But she says she's double jointed.
00:16:19
Speaker
So she's, that's her talent. that ah and that sounds like this That sounds like something you would put on Tinder. Wow.
00:16:29
Speaker
was going to say that the places I could go with that comment, but I'm going I'm going stick with not sure it's a talent. Let's just put it that way. It might be a feature. Yeah. the talent It's a feature. she's It's a hidden feature. She's double jointed.
00:16:44
Speaker
That's an excellent hidden feature. but Well, I have more proof me to to your your um but theory that she's a sociopath.
00:16:55
Speaker
Well, okay. She's a lovely sociopath. Lovely sociopath. All in fun, Morgan. All in fun. but but i mean She's a love lovely young lady. Look at the eyes, Tom.
00:17:07
Speaker
Just look into her eyes and you'll be able to tell. She's got a little AOC on her. She's got a little AOC in those eyes. Oh, hello. she She's cute, though. Yeah, she got crazy.
00:17:19
Speaker
She's going to end up with some thick black framed glasses eventually.
00:17:27
Speaker
And I don't know, and i ah to give her credit, we just made fun of her. as so But man, does she work? so She works hard. She's everywhere. I mean, she's all over the state of Ohio. She's on almost every report.
00:17:38
Speaker
When there's not a news report that doesn't have Morgan in it, I'm like, what happened to Morgan? but she okay? Yeah. Morgan Trow or Trow. wow I think Trow is how they pronounce Trow. Okay, and we'll find out. We'll see. I think it might be in this clip.
00:17:53
Speaker
Sometimes I cut it out, but we'll see. All right, Morgan. Just last year, more than 1 million Ohioans voted by mail. I like voting because I believe that our democracy works best when we're all participating. It's a way to vote. My God, like voting because...
00:18:15
Speaker
ah Was that Jen something? Miller, I think. Yeah, Jen. Okay. Yeah, she has those glasses. Yes, she does. Definitely does. and She has the same glasses that um ah that dude from ah MSN wears or MSNBC. the what whats What's his name?
00:18:37
Speaker
I don't know. Oh, um, oh, um, think I know what talking about. Wait, it's a dude that wears the glasses like that. Those horn-rimmed glasses. Yeah. Hmm.
00:18:48
Speaker
What's his name? I don't, I don't, I don't know if I, what's the woman's name? Is there a woman?
00:18:55
Speaker
I don't, I don't, Tom, I don't watch that much MSN. Rachel Maddow. Rachel Maddow. Okay. i do know that name.
Impact of Federal Changes on Ohio's Voting
00:19:01
Speaker
The dude. Yes. The dude, that's true. Excuse me, I'm sorry.
00:19:06
Speaker
Go on, I'm sorry. i'm where it We're we pausing too much here. Nah, we're good. It's all for fun and laughs, so let's continue. He's like, oh my god, like I like voting because like democracy.
00:19:21
Speaker
That our democracy works best when we're all participating. It's a way to vote that advocate Jen Miller says is proven to be safe, secure, and effective for each party. Data from the 2024 general election shows that the main demographic utilizing absentee ballots are voters above the age of 65.
00:19:39
Speaker
With unaffiliated voters leading the pack, Republicans coming second, and Democratic voters following. It's particularly important for older adults, military members, rural Ohioans, voters with disability. Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose has done numerous audits of the elections.
00:19:57
Speaker
None have shown evidence of widespread voter fraud. Yet, President Donald Trump wants to stop that method of voting. Mail-in ballots are corrupt. Mail-in ballots, you can never have...
00:20:09
Speaker
A real democracy with mail-in ballots. On Monday, the president said his team was drafting an executive order to ban the use of not just mail-in ballots, but also voting machines and tabulators, which allow Ohio boards of elections to get results out on election night. Massive fraud all over the place. Nonpartisan elections law expert Atiba Ellis says that Trump's plan won't work.
00:20:32
Speaker
Trump does not have the power to do this. At best, it's in the hands of Congress to dictate how federal elections work. Therefore, he cannot simply by executive order change how American democracy has worked.
00:20:46
Speaker
LaRose touts Ohio as the gold standard of elections. And in response to Trump's statement, a spokesperson told us, We look forward to reviewing the details of what the president is proposing. Changes to Ohio's voting process require a vote of the General Assembly, so I'm sure we'll be talking with them as well.
00:21:04
Speaker
Miller has consistently fought against Ohio Republicans' efforts to make more restrictions to voting, including requiring a photo ID and limiting ballot Dropbox access. She worries Trump's rhetoric will cause the state to look for even more ways to make it harder to vote.
00:21:19
Speaker
If we do have those drastic overhauls, happen it's likely going to mean more work for boards of elections, more expense for taxpayers, less access for voters.
00:21:30
Speaker
Voting rights groups say that they're ready to file a lawsuit against any federal executive order attempting to change the way Ohio currently votes. At the Ohio Statehouse, I'm Morgan Trout reporting.
00:21:41
Speaker
Trout. true Morgan Trow. So couple of things. he He does say tallying systems. So that's what Ohio has for the most part, which can it easily be corrupted because we heard, you know, rumors of this and that through many elections.
00:21:58
Speaker
um if If you, I think it was Arizona, you put a, you put a vote in or a sheet in and it, it tallies 1.5 votes for one side and You know, you know that you can actually, if you program it correctly, you can you can make the counting machines count it wrong.
00:22:18
Speaker
Right. I understand, but at least there's they still keep the paper ballots as a backup. Yes. It's not completely digital. Yeah, because ah at least you can go back to the paper ballots if if it seems too, you know, fishy or it's too close.
00:22:34
Speaker
I don't know. So a couple of things. That's one. The other thing is i don't think Trump really has the authority to, I mean, our executive order is not going to change. I think he's going to. It's more of a suggestion.
00:22:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's going to do the executive order and then Congress is going to try to, you know, get a bill going. That's what they've been doing. Yes. With his executive orders, they're they're they're putting bills together to How does this affect Ohio?
00:23:04
Speaker
How does this affect Ohio? Well, obviously we just talked about it, but there's one couple things that are kind of, or one thing that maybe may not know about, which is once in Ohio, according to Ohio law, once you opt into digital, you know, county machine ah tallying machine or voting machine, by law, you are not allowed to opt out.
00:23:25
Speaker
Why not? Because the law says, and I think there's two lawsuits right now, Mahoning County and another county um that are suing this other article here, that are suing the state of Ohio because they want to go back to paper ballots.
00:23:44
Speaker
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. And they've lost. They lost? they've lost Yeah, they've lost. You know what? I didn't.
00:23:54
Speaker
Shoot. I didn't put that one into the list, but yes. Well, okay. Are they appealing it? Yeah. there Yes. it's It's under appeal. Right. um But they had not had a successful run through the courts with it because the law is what the law is.
00:24:09
Speaker
Yeah. But that pretty, that law has to be changed. I think is what, yeah, what it comes down to. Well, if somebody, well, I'm going to say this. If, if, if,
00:24:23
Speaker
If Trump called on it to be changed, I think they would. Because, I mean, we have a pretty solid majority of Republicans in Ohio government.
00:24:34
Speaker
Yes, I do. But their response kind of like, ah we're good. we've We're the beacon of election efficiency and security. Because...
00:24:47
Speaker
What does low-row say? ah Well, we've got a 99.9% or 99% plus accuracy rating. Okay, that's great. But how much are you auditing?
00:24:58
Speaker
They're auditing less than 5% of the ballots. And I think only three precincts in every county or something like that. So are you really checking? You know what I mean?
00:25:11
Speaker
Okay. I'm quickly looking up lawsuits. Okay.
00:25:15
Speaker
as I speak, but there, um, I know yeah it's in the appeals court right now. So, you know, we can, we can, I would like to look at that and, and go ahead.
00:25:26
Speaker
I would like that law to be changed. I mean, cause if there's a County that wants to count it by hand, let them, I, it's a, it's not that hard to do. Yeah. So why, um why, why, why can't you?
00:25:41
Speaker
Right. Right. That's what I'm wondering. I don't know. i
00:25:50
Speaker
You know what I don't like is I don't like ah but different states having different methods of voting, really.
00:26:02
Speaker
yeah i think it should be pretty ah solid all all across the country. i there's there's no like bit it Even in Ohio, why does one one county have a different counting machine than another?
00:26:14
Speaker
That doesn't make any sense to me. You would think if you're looking for speed and efficiency, yeah try to keep them all pretty close to the same. Sure. Good point. I do like, I was explaining to me one time, the our system, our election system is one of the most, it's one of the most secure in the world for one reason alone.
00:26:36
Speaker
It's because we don't have one election. We have 50 elections right for for the national elections. We have 50 individual elections. So you would have to actually, you have to actually corrupt a lot more than just one system.
00:26:52
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, really, I mean, there's countries that aren't bigger than some states. Sure, sure, yes. Yeah.
00:27:01
Speaker
So um that's going through. So they're, um you know, the the Republicans of Ohio are kind of saying, we're we're good. We don't really need anything. So let's see. I know, you know the, there's a, ah somebody challenging LaRose, I was listening to on the Windsor Report, and He's saying, no, we got to go back back back to paper ballots.
00:27:24
Speaker
And LaRose is saying, no, we're good. So I don't know if what they're going to do, um but we'll see what Congress does because that's that's really going to tell a tale. But that's on that. i don't I don't know what else there is to say. I guess that's about it on that. I'm trying to think anything else. It's not a simple – well, it is a simple solution, but it obviously there's things – making a roadblock to those simple solutions.
00:27:49
Speaker
Yeah, because like LaRose is highlighting the 2020 for elections 99% accuracy rating in all 88 counties, reporting 100% accuracy in presidential race. 100% accuracy? I mean...
00:28:01
Speaker
i mean i don't and I'm not saying we're bad. I'm thinking they need to do a little bit more thorough audits than less than 5%.
00:28:12
Speaker
Better audits would be but would be the way to go that I see. i mean, i think we're pretty good in Ohio, but more audits isn't bad.
00:28:23
Speaker
Always good checks and balances. Yep. And you disagree with that take or you think that we we missed something on it, let us know.
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00:28:34
Speaker
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00:28:48
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00:29:03
Speaker
Next. Not so fun, Tom. What's that? Not so fun. Dwine agreed to send Ohio National Guard troops to D.C. to help. and Sounds all right to me. Of course, the protesters got to protest.
00:29:19
Speaker
but's ah let's So um President Trump is but um putting National Guard troops in the streets of D.C. to cut but down on crime.
00:29:31
Speaker
Even though, i mean crime's not a problem in D.C., I heard, Tom. Okay. Whatever you say. They're only ninth in the top ten out of ah murder rate per capita in the country.
00:29:43
Speaker
So they're not bad. They're not the worst. Okay. Okay. isn' it Doesn't this get spurred on by an event? I i thought I remember hearing, ah we were listening, I was listening to, it was probably no agenda, but they were talking about, it was one of the Doge guys.
00:29:59
Speaker
big They nicknamed them Big Balls. Big Balls. So he was lost he was in the news for a little while when Trump first came in office. Elon was in there. They were doing the doge cuts and everybody was freaking out because they sent these teams of people in those government agencies.
00:30:16
Speaker
To start slashing and start looking at who's where's the fat. And I guess they nicknamed this one guy big balls because he was a young guy who just didn't care. Just went in start, you know. Yeah.
00:30:27
Speaker
And I guess from my remember, he intervened in a mugging in Washington, D.C. on a, want to say it was an elderly woman, but maybe it was a woman of some sort. I'm not sure if it was elder or not.
00:30:40
Speaker
and And the group that were mugging her put him in the hospital. Do remember that? Yeah, there was a pretty gruesome picture of him sitting by the ambulance, all bloody and And beat up.
00:30:57
Speaker
Yeah. So he here's a good Samaritan. And maybe this is part of what spurred on this is movement or this motivat or but motivation. but um By the way, since the since the National Guard has been in D.C., there's been zero homicides.
00:31:13
Speaker
Carjackings are down 83%. Robberies are down And violent crime down so still still some way to go So DeWine was asked to send National Guard troops, and he did, and people are upset.
00:31:30
Speaker
and lets Again, let's listen on one more shot of Morgan for today. Here we Again, News Channel 5, National Guard in D.C., and we'll hear a little bit from the protesters, too.
00:31:44
Speaker
Bring them home. Bring them home. As 150 Ohio National Guard troops deploy to Washington, D.C., protesters at home urge their release. Everybody needs to wake up. yeah This is not normal, right? Marine Corps veteran Michael Todd says he's served the country and the state, but he's ashamed of the government right now. President Donald Trump's administration asked Governor Mike DeWine to send troops to the nation's capital to combat what U.S. Senator Bernie Moreno calls a rise in crime. Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, that have devolved into crime hell holes.
00:32:18
Speaker
And we're just not going to let that happen. But the ACLU's Gary Daniels pointed out that D.C. is seeing a steady decrease in crime over the past three decades. So he's asking.
00:32:29
Speaker
We're only several months into this four-year presidency, and it begs the question, how much more will we see with this manufactured crisis, drama, and similar controversies in the future? DeWine says that he approved the request because he tends to accept every ask like he's done in the past for both Republican and Democratic leaders during natural disasters.
00:32:51
Speaker
The governor's team also says that all the troops are military police. but they won't be making arrests. They will just be patrolling the area. Most Americans, if you're walking down the street and you see a police officer, honestly, there's a little bit of, okay, I'm going to be safe. And that perception of safety is just as important as the actual statistics. But for Todd, the National Guard shouldn't be used for appearances.
00:33:15
Speaker
That's not our mission. yeah That's for the local police. Did a disaster happen? No. This is manufactured drama. to divert everybody's attention from something else that's going on. The deployment will last 30 days, but DeWine's team told us that if Trump asks, he will extend.
00:33:31
Speaker
At the Ohio Statehouse, I'm Morgan Trau reporting. but By the way, why typical DeWine won't take a stand. yeah Well, that's, you know, he's a milk toast. Michael Pulliam was placed on an administrative leave.
00:33:47
Speaker
He was the MPD commander in D.C., He was placed on leave for allegedly recording crime incorrectly, cooking the books to make it look like there's less crime.
00:34:00
Speaker
And this is who now? ah He was the um MPD commander and D.C. Yeah, okay.
00:34:11
Speaker
And that's kind of where I was going with it. It's like, yeah, you can make stats say whatever you want. A 30-year decline. By the way, from the highest murder rate in the country at one point in the 90s and early 2000s, I remember D.C., our nation's capital, murder capital also for many years.
00:34:31
Speaker
Yeah, our national capital. Yeah, national capital. And okay, so decline. And like we've talked in the past about when when Vance was in Cincinnati talking about the crime and everybody was like well, the crime is down.
00:34:45
Speaker
Yeah, if you...
00:34:48
Speaker
If you lower if the sergeants or people you know in charge of the boots on the ground are telling the guys to change the report, change the crime to this, a lower crime.
00:35:01
Speaker
and And there's examples of it everywhere, like you're saying. And you can you can change the stats significantly just by adjusting, a tweaking so what what boxes you check on the report.
00:35:12
Speaker
So currently Memphis, Tennessee is number one in murder rate. St. Louis is number two. I wonder why. Hmm. What else? Keep going. Baltimore.
00:35:23
Speaker
Hmm. Number three. And Washington, D.C., number four. Oh, it's four. I thought it was nine. No, it's this is for, ah yeah, murder rate. oh Oh. Not violent crime. They might, ah I don't know.
00:35:38
Speaker
I'd have to take a little bit. We should do a special show on their crimes stats. Anyways, Cleveland, number seven. Detroit, number six. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:50
Speaker
there's ah There's a ah common theme to most of these cities, though, aren't there? Oh, yeah. They're all run by Democrats. ah Compton, California, is number 10. So we beat out Compton.
00:36:02
Speaker
D.C. beat out Compton. Oh, don't call the comeback time. We've been here for years. Oh, yeah. No, we we've... i ah we we were I thought we were, like, fourth in the nation a few years ago, so...
00:36:15
Speaker
Well, I mean, we're getting better. Yeah. I mean, so is Still in the top 10. They went from one to fourth. Jeez, what's wrong with them? So there's no emergency. There's no national disaster.
00:36:27
Speaker
So you have to wait for like, what, gangs to take over most of the city before you, because i mean, Trump could claim and a national emergency, couldn't he? And then he'd have even more power.
00:36:39
Speaker
Is that what she, is that what that guy wanted?
00:36:42
Speaker
Well, he's he's going to, ah yesterday he mentioned he's going to Chicago next after they're done with D.C. and then New York. And that's going be interesting. That's where it gets weird.
00:36:53
Speaker
That's go to be interesting. Yeah, that's that's going to be a... ah yeah um You know, really, you can't protest the Washington, D.C. thing at all. I mean, you can, but it's worthless because it's a federal.
00:37:06
Speaker
Federal district. Yeah. I mean, it it's. It should be under. For years, for many, many years until a couple decades ago, it was under federal control until yeah they brought this local law or I forget what they call it, but.
00:37:19
Speaker
that the That the local police have authority over the federal government, except but and except in certain circumstances. But no, it should be all the other 1974 is when they actually got a mayor for the first time. so And they they actually have a seat in Congress.
00:37:35
Speaker
but and know i You know what? I i wonder if if you really dig into the stats if that's when the crime started rising. I bet it has to be. Oh, yeah. Almost.
00:37:46
Speaker
Yeah. Probably correlates pretty damn well. Yeah. So there is a national emergency when when our when when Cleveland, Ohio is like five out in the country.
00:37:59
Speaker
Yeah. mean, we're not a very big city, people. We're less than a half a million people. And we're we're competing with New York and Chicago. Jeez, oh, man. ah Yeah. Well, I think I mentioned this before. I think it's i think it's mainly because of the...
00:38:15
Speaker
We don't have that Ritchie area in Cleveland or it's very small. Yeah. Those other cities have, those other cities have a lot of private security and, uh, you know, like some neighborhoods that are a little bit more secure than, than anything in Cleveland, at least.
00:38:35
Speaker
Well, uh, I can't, I couldn't, I can't get away without a short,
00:38:41
Speaker
minute and a half long. I say not that short. So as I'm going through articles on this, you know, cleveland.com pops up quite frequently and I couldn't resist but check out what they had to say on today in Ohio.
00:38:54
Speaker
um So what do they think about what's, what's, what do they think about trump having national guardsmen in dc so she uh first brings up this is today in ohio from early in the week and she but we start the clip where she's talking about amy acton's response to this it's really not about amy acton but it just it was a good starting point um but here's what they had to say about you know the great no crime in dc and all that stuff Amy Acton, who's running for governor in the next term, said she's not going to criticize the governor himself because she doesn't know all the facts. But she said, I would take this very seriously. And I do have concerns about this being used more as a fear mongering and a sort of political stunt than actually the real needs for our people.
00:39:41
Speaker
which is a really good point. And like you said, this is not what the United States has ever stood for. And this is our capital where you go and you see the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial and the mall where we've had you know hundreds and hundreds of protests for everything over the years. This represents our country and the people.
00:40:01
Speaker
And to have people in military gear with the military vehicles kind of You know, just making it look scary is not what represents our country or why people go to scary.
00:40:13
Speaker
He's looking for a fight. It's almost like he wants to replicate Kent State to instill fear. His whole his whole motto is make America great again. But it really should be make America not America, because none of this is what we are about as a nation.
Political Strategies and Media Handling
00:40:28
Speaker
And again, I'm staggered by the number of people that will not stand up and call this out. Every member of Congress should be standing up saying, stop. This is not who we are.
00:40:40
Speaker
And instead, they click their heels. They salute him and they do what he tells them one after another after another.
00:40:49
Speaker
um wonder if his wife calls him his her whiny little bitch. Yes. where I'm staggered. So let me get this straight.
00:41:00
Speaker
Let me get this straight. Military gear, military members of National Guard scares you.
00:41:10
Speaker
But the fourth highest murder rate in the country doesn't. Good point. Getting mugged on and at night at the Capitol...
00:41:22
Speaker
Of our country. This is what... He doesn't live there. i know. DC represents. Yes. DC represents our country. Yes. And it's a murder hellhole.
00:41:33
Speaker
So... You see where I'm getting here? But Romer! It's so scary. They're military. They're carrying guns. they have They have beige outfits on.
00:41:47
Speaker
And they've got big trucks with big tires. And he's totally trying to replicate Kent State. I got to pull my panties up and be a man.
00:41:57
Speaker
i have a meme I like to share on X. And it says ah so something to fact that Trump is like one of the first presidents that doesn't have a dog. It's because he's made the Democratic Party his bitch.
00:42:10
Speaker
That's a good one. I like that. um Because, yes, he's trying. He's looking for a fight. he I'm sure that's what he wants. I know i get that. And I like to listen to this stuff because because when the tables are turned, because they will be eventually, i think.
00:42:26
Speaker
you I don't want to be that way. I don't want to sound like them. You know why he's made him their bitch? Because every every single 80-20 issue...
00:42:37
Speaker
um issue issue
00:42:43
Speaker
he's He's been, he's been ah like, he he's 100% right on. And they actually ah don't defend him on his choices to do things that 80% of the people want.
00:42:55
Speaker
Yes. And it's like, it's just Trump bad. it doesn't matter what he does. Orange man bad. Yeah. I mean, literally, he's going to he's bringing down crime.
00:43:10
Speaker
And they're going to complain about that. Securing the borders. eighty percent You know, most of the nation wants secure borders, and they're going to say no, open borders. Yeah, they're complaining, who's going to clean my house?
00:43:24
Speaker
Well, that's why they're his bitch, because they take these issues and make them sound retarded from their so from their so-called viewpoint, because I don't even think they have a viewpoint. I think they're it's orange man bad, so I have to...
00:43:40
Speaker
come out with something that makes him sound awful and makes us sound like good people. I need to virtue signal this, Rob. Yes. You can literally watch them go from spot to spot as Trump peas, like just like the, just like the bitches they are.
00:43:57
Speaker
And, and he just, he just carries them along and leads them along the way. And you can see him. And i I, during his first time, i so I, you know, I was not a fan of Trump in his first term. I did not vote for him.
00:44:09
Speaker
But I could see early on what was going on here and towards it towards the middle of his of his ter I'm sitting there going. He's got I mean, the Republicans could have passed anything. Nobody was paying attention because all he had to do was tweet.
00:44:21
Speaker
Yep. And for a week, they'd be talking about his tweet or the following tweets. And then the Republicans could have cut any they could have cut Medicaid and Medicare. so They could have cut Social Security and almost nobody would have known about it.
00:44:32
Speaker
Yep. Not saying they should necessarily, but that's the the third rail politics cutting Social Security. but that's, that's how, and, and the same thing is happening now. And you know, he's, he's trying to, he's trying to secure the country and they're flipping out and, and they could be doing, maybe the guy's right. So this is a distraction because every issue, every 80, 20, make government more efficient. No.
00:44:57
Speaker
What? How can we make that? People are going to lose jobs. People are going to lose jobs. What am I going to do? It's going to take me longer to get my benefits, Tom.
00:45:10
Speaker
know It's crazy, man. He's he just leading them around like ah like a bitch in heat. Yep. Sorry for other kids out there, but it's just a female dog. That's all it is.
00:45:21
Speaker
Yeah, that's how we're using it. not like Not like calling Morgan a bitch. No, that would sorry be inappropriate. She's not in any way that I've seen. i don't know. Sociopath. Yes. Orange is really. Come on, Morgan.
00:45:33
Speaker
I know. Exactly. Look at those eyes.
00:45:37
Speaker
All right. we'll keep a keep, I'm sure there'll be more on that in the coming weeks because that's what's going to keep going, especially if he decides to bringer bring some National Guard to Columbus or Cincinnati or Cleveland or Akron or Canton or Dayton or let's just keep going.
00:45:52
Speaker
You don't need to do that in Cleveland. You just need a couple of guys from Florida. Florida man.
00:46:00
Speaker
We don't want to have enough people to do that here. Yeah. They all went to Florida. The weather and stuff, know. All right, so we ah touched quickly because ah had we had breaking.
00:46:11
Speaker
Breaking news ah late late Friday, early Saturday. Breaking Thank you. Thank you. We have all those cool buttons. On the Hopkins the Browns Stadium and the Hopkins Airport, the FAA and the ODOT and all this other stuff.
00:46:28
Speaker
And that is still going on. They're still going through it. Hang on. Hang on. We skipped something. We did? Yeah. Uh-oh. Look above that.
00:46:39
Speaker
Oh, judges. i checked it because I had the wine at the beginning. I'm an idiot. Scratch that. Edit point. No, not really. All right. Sorry. i did you Thank you very much for keeping me on track, Tom.
00:46:51
Speaker
we're go to Before we go to the FAA, i was just a tease. we want to i want to touch on this story about DeWine and what he's, I think, trying to pull and what lot of the Republicans in the state, I think he's trying to pull some shenanigans here.
00:47:06
Speaker
What? Republicans pulling shenanigans? Yeah, politicians trying to weasel the way. Yes. Shockingly, yes. So a couple of times I've had a similar story in though and the lineup that I've pulled because honestly it just seems boring. And i kind of figured out figuring this is what was going on.
00:47:26
Speaker
So here's the story. There is a vacating a a Supreme Court seat that they're trying to get.
00:47:34
Speaker
And and added there's I think there's two Democratic Supreme Court. They're trying to get one more. I think there's a seat being vacated. So, or they're trying to move some Republicans around and, and they were originally trying to, and and I'm sorry, people, this is, this is as confusing as it sounds. So I'm trying to make it as, as least as possible, but in a nutshell, there is a judge Fisher That originally I was pulling a story that he was going to, he's already a sitting judge, Supreme Court judge for two more years.
00:48:07
Speaker
He was going to move from his seat to try to take, to try to run for another seat on the Supreme supreme Court, leaving his seat vacant for two years, which would what then give DeWine an appointment that he can put whoever he wants in that, in that place because there's a vacancy.
00:48:25
Speaker
So that has fallen through. This Judge Fisher has bowed out or whatnot. He's going to stay where he's at. So the next move is what's just happened in the Ohio Republican Judicial Screening Committee. Voted Saturday to recommend to the state central committee, all these committees, wonderful, ah that the second district court judge of appeals, Ron Lewis, be the party's endorsement for the 26th Ohio Supreme Court race, one of the seats.
00:48:54
Speaker
So Lewis, are coincidentally enough, has been a better beneficiary of judicial judicial appointments in his career, has never won a judicial election.
00:49:07
Speaker
So he's so they want to put him up for the Republican. um Supreme Court to go against whoever the Democrat is. So what they're what some people are speculating is that DeWine is putting his thumb on the scale.
00:49:24
Speaker
And why would he do that? Because, well, Fisher's out. So now he wants to get this Lewis guy to take move from where he's, he's currently at to run for the Supreme court. That way he wins. There's what another vacancy in the court.
00:49:38
Speaker
Right. Originally when Fisher was out, he was, um, rumor was he was, he was saying would give him an opportunity. People were saying it was give him an opportunity appoint the son of one of his late best friends.
00:49:53
Speaker
Judge Ron Lewis. Right. So here's here's that same connection again. So now Lewis can run for Supreme Court. His seat is vacant. So he's now personal friend of the wine will be on the Supreme Court and a vacancy.
00:50:10
Speaker
Who would he put in Ron's place?
00:50:15
Speaker
Well, conveniently enough, somebody with a name you might be familiar with, Alice DeWine. Are you kidding me He wants to put his daughter the field seat, and it the appointing Lewis to the high court would then leave Lewis's seat on the appeals court open, creating another appointment opportunity for the governor that would, the seat that would be filled by his daughter, Alice DeWine.
00:50:43
Speaker
Alice DeWine lost the 2020 Republican primary election for a Greene County prosecutor by 18%, despite $320,000 from a political action committee to bolster her campaign.
00:50:57
Speaker
So this is DeWine trying to get his daughter into politics.
00:51:03
Speaker
You ever hear nepotism? Nepotism is rampant in politics. Just look at our last few elections. We had way too many Bushes and Clintons in their races.
00:51:16
Speaker
Yeah, that's... Oh, man, I didn't... I knew there was something fishy going on, but I didn't get into... Read read the stories I should have. that's That's gross, man. Yeah.
00:51:29
Speaker
So basically, if the Ohio ah State Committee, usually what's happening is, I should say, what's happening is when they get this endorsement, most the other Republicans will drop out.
00:51:42
Speaker
Right. So Lewis has got a good chance of winning the Republican nominee nomination and looks like polling Republican might win the seat on the Supreme Court too. And with their with the Republicans backing certain candidates, most other ones will back out.
00:51:57
Speaker
So they're saying he's putting the thumb. He's trying to get all these other, there's four or five other people. some A judge from Rocky River, ah judge from appeals another fifth district court appeals, second district court appeals judge. There's four or five other people that are looking to run and they're thinking that DeWine's trying to tip the scales by influencing the secret ballots that are there was one that so this guy got passed and now he goes to the ah committee that will determine whether they're going to endorse him or not they could just say we're not endorsing anybody that's what people are thinking they're leaning towards Alice DeWine lost the 2020
00:52:34
Speaker
Republican primary election for Green County prosecutor by 18%. Yep. Despite 320,000 from political action committee to bolster her campaign, which I think is a lot for a judge. It's a lot, especially at Ohio, Ohio.
00:52:52
Speaker
It was a prosecutor. It wasn't mean like Supreme quarter. It was just a local county prosecutor. Right. Right. Yeah. It's not even a, it's not even the judge. It's yeah. Yeah. There's, I don't know anything about Greene County, or well but it's something to look into, man. Why why would she lose that?
00:53:10
Speaker
I don't, just based on DeWine, I wouldn't trust her for a second. I think she's probably, she calls herself Republican in name. i don't I doubt she is, though.
00:53:22
Speaker
Well, it'd also give DeWine, he'll able to keep his fingers in the and the mix in Ohio politics, having his daughter as, you know, right obviously would be appointed here, but there'd be more to that. Because once you're in there, it's incumbent.
00:53:37
Speaker
an incumbent is, is the best advantage you can have in an election. Right. So I think that's what he's kind of trying to do. Get here, make her an incumbent for the next run elections and she'll probably win. And then that can poster her.
00:53:51
Speaker
Then you could have another DeWine. Ugh. So keep an eye on that folks. Shanigans. This is the kind of stuff that you're never going to hear about anywhere else. Um, I think probably the Ohio press network is where Ohio press network is where I got this story from.
00:54:06
Speaker
Also, I think listening to, um, the Windsor report, these are kinds of things that, uh, That we really wanted to start this podcast for because this this would go normally unreported most cases and it would just happen.
00:54:19
Speaker
Nobody would about it. David Hayes is the Green County prosecuting attorney. He's a Republican. That's who she lost against in the primary. He was an incumbent. So.
00:54:31
Speaker
I would imagine he spent way less than 320 grand. Well, being an incumbent is a little easier, but still, she has name recognitions. Yeah, big time. Yeah, must not be, well, good.
00:54:43
Speaker
It means people don't really give a crap about DeWine anymore. He did get booed every time Trump mentioned him in a... in a yeah when he was doing his you know his rallies and stuff.
00:54:56
Speaker
Yes, he did. Yes, he did. I do remember
Cleveland Browns Stadium Controversy
00:54:59
Speaker
that. That's true. and Now I can check that box, right? Yep. Yeah. Done with that story. All right.
00:55:06
Speaker
right, now we can go on to the Browns. And shenanigans there again, I think. So like I was saying, we were talking last week about the Browns. ODOT had...
00:55:20
Speaker
refused a permit that the Browns had yet to apply for, which is very interesting um for the Brown Stadium being too high for the airport.
00:55:32
Speaker
So the Haslams had already gone or their whatever but group they're working with had already gone through the f FAA. FAA had already approved it and said, yeah, it's going to be higher than the restrictions, but it should be fine. And apparently, in this case, it's always left to the local government, the local authority who controls the airport for the final approval.
00:55:54
Speaker
Well, guess who is the authority for the airport? Who's that? The city of Cleveland.
00:56:04
Speaker
So, they're they're yeah, they're just trying roadblock this or make it difficult. Yes. So, apparently... Well before the Ohio transportation high Department of Transportation um and Office of Aviation denied the Browns' request for construction permit, again, they didn't apply for, to build an enclosed Brook Park Stadium, a records show the head of the near nearby Cleveland Hopkins International Airport was arguing against the proposal to state and federal officials.
00:56:36
Speaker
So again, listening to my my favorite hate listen, which is today in Ohio, they were there trying to give Mayor Bibb a bunch of credit. Like, oh, wait he did this so sneakily. And all his I'm like, i no, there's no way he, no.
00:56:48
Speaker
There's no way he had this in the back his back pocket and wasn't going to say something. um I think maybe later on they figured out, it but I don't think this is some great grand chess match from Mayor Bibb.
00:56:59
Speaker
Highly doubtful. ah Letters shared by the City of Cleveland 3 News reveal that the director of port control, Brian Francis, wrote to ODOT and the Federal Aviation Administration in March stating that the stadium development proposal did not have his ah fish office's support because offices support because It would permanently and negatively impact the airport surfaces, operations and safety.
00:57:24
Speaker
I mean, I brought this up originally. I'm like, this going to have this big building, right? I mean, literally right next to the airport.
00:57:32
Speaker
Um, so he's got concerns and they have, and they're now talking with the Haslam group on what they can do. couple different options. One of them is dig deeper.
00:57:45
Speaker
Like I said, I was listening to today in Ohio there. There's no way they can dig dig any deeper. I'm going really, i can't. So currently they're already planning to go 85 feet down yeah i think I think it's the water table that's – I'm not sure if they can go deeper.
00:58:03
Speaker
I'd say ah we could look at how they build in New York. Yeah. And they go pretty damn deep in New York. They figure it out. And they're right next to an ocean. True.
00:58:14
Speaker
So I get it. be I don't think that's the, i don't think the problem is they can't go any deeper. I think the problem is if they change and anything major, they have to start the process all over again. And I think that's where the city of Cleveland is at. They want to, if you if you're not going to stay, we're least going to make it the biggest pain in the ass we can.
00:58:30
Speaker
Yeah. I wouldn't say they can't go any deeper. I just think it yeah complicates the problem. Yeah. More expensive. Yes. Yeah. There might be more EPA stuff. Yes. Yeah. That's good point. Yeah. So that,
00:58:42
Speaker
On top of this little story and clip I have from from news channel, it's Fox 8. Fox 8 decided to go back and look at some videotape of the surrounding areas you know years and years ago and as something they found something pretty interesting. Let's hear what they had to say in the clip.
00:59:00
Speaker
Look at what the I-Team found out about the skyline around Hopkins Airport. The State Department of Transportation denying a permit for the Browns to build a dome virtually next door. Concerned about it being too big and so close with planes taking off and landing. So we dug up old video of what had stood on that site for decades. A factory with smokestacks soaring into the sky. oh In fact, the seal of the city of Brook Park even includes smokestacks and an airplane.
00:59:29
Speaker
At this meeting, a Brook Park councilman even raised the issue of the state saying no to a dome, yet for so long, smokestacks had practically cast a shadow on the airport. So the state would have been 43 feet taller than the current proposed stadium. And is there any kind of a safety difference between smokestacks and a building?
00:59:51
Speaker
So I know if Amy caught that because it's crappy audio, but the smoke sacks that were there for the Ford plant and all the surrounding plants that were there were 43 feet higher than the current proposed stadium.
01:00:03
Speaker
Wow. And on top of that, they had smoke coming out of them a lot of the times. So it's interesting. ah Here we go. none We turn to commercial pilot and flight instructor Robert Katz.
01:00:17
Speaker
He points out the FAA did a detailed study of plans for the dome and determined no hazard to air navigation. The city of Cleveland raised concerns and now the state has said no permit to build the dome. But Robert Katz says pilots trust what the FAA found.
01:00:33
Speaker
Every party to the project can be rest assured that that safety is not being compromised and the city or the state would have anything to complain about. The I-Team has requested records from the city and the state asking how did they determine building a dome would be a danger for air traffic.
01:00:53
Speaker
And we obtained this email from the state to the city asking, in effect, are you sure you object to this? Quote, can you reevaluate the proposed structure based on the current FAA determination?
01:01:08
Speaker
An FAA finding of no hazard. The airport director wrote back the position of the city has not changed. Officials with the State Department of Transportation say they will be meeting with leaders of the Browns to go over why they denied the permit.
01:01:22
Speaker
There are several options officials from the Browns can now take, including appealing that decision. We got a pissing contest going on. Yes, we do. And usually who wins in those cases?
01:01:36
Speaker
Usually the person with more money. Yeah. In this case, definitely the Haslams. The Haslam's are going to win. And it's like, they're just trying to be pain. FAA says it's okay. It's fine. and in in doing a little research, is this is typical. What happens? FAA will say, you know, we think it's okay, but but it's the governing ah authority of the airport that has final say, which does make sense.
01:02:00
Speaker
They'd rather have local than, you know, the federal having all the control. But in this case, The ODOT is going back to the city and saying, are you sure? i'm like, the FAA said it was good. And the city says, nope, we're good.
01:02:12
Speaker
We're not moving. Again, they're just trying to make, i think they're trying to just make it a pain in the ass. Maybe um it could be as simple as trying to make the Haslam's miss their window of opportunity and have to sign another lease and negotiate with the city for one more year or something like that.
01:02:27
Speaker
Because that's, that's what's really what's at stake here. Yeah, there I think they're just right now the city of Cleveland is just trying to make it as difficult as they can with you knowing they're going to lose. They're just going to make it They're going to make them pay in their in their way.
01:02:44
Speaker
So they can move the stadium, but some are saying that could you could have similar issues. They don't want to move any big change like that. They have to start the process, the permitting process all over again, which could delay you know months, I'm sure.
01:02:56
Speaker
Right. I would say they just didn't, I mean, the Haslams sounds like they didn't p apply the proper ah campaign contributions in the Cleveland area.
01:03:09
Speaker
Yeah, probably. Maybe they're working on that right now. But there is a WTF moment, right? like, okay, you're saying it's too high, but for decades, they had smokestacks actually higher than the stadium.
01:03:22
Speaker
Literally the exact same. Not a little higher, 43 higher. Yeah. Yeah, that's stupid. More shenanigans. ah We'll keep an eye on it and see how far they go again. Let's watch the peeing match.
Safety and Policing in Cleveland
01:03:41
Speaker
right. I guess on to the next, which is a continuing story we've been following, I guess you could say. ah downtown safety patrol is at it again, or still. I don't think it's, this is not new, new information.
01:03:55
Speaker
It's new to us information. So again, we'll go I guess we'll go over what, if people are asking, what is the downtown safety patrol? Well, it basically is, well, remember how they were saying when Vance was in town that crime is down and all over the place.
01:04:14
Speaker
Crime is down so bad. it's Crime is down so much, I should say, in Cleveland. is that the city of Cleveland a year year and a half ago asked the Cogga County Sheriff's Department for help.
01:04:26
Speaker
By the way, Mayor Bibb was boasting, you know, when when ah Trump started talking about the all the National Guard and all that, yeah he started boasting how how crime is going down in Cleveland.
01:04:41
Speaker
Yeah. Ridiculous, man. It's going down so fast, they had to ask the Sheriff's Department to create their own Downtown Safety Patrol. So if anyone remembers early on, we probably, i don't know, a couple months ago, we had talked about Downtown Safety Patrol a couple occasions. They had a chase that ended up killing two people, one person they were chasing and some innocent bystander over on Eddie Road in 90.
01:05:05
Speaker
And then we had talked about this Deputy Vajusi, who could forget that name? And this is, again, the same guy. This is Deputy Vajusi.
01:05:18
Speaker
who they have video ah de or a body cam video of them chasing car through the streets of Cleveland ah in excess of 100 miles an hour while he's got his AR out the window.
01:05:38
Speaker
Yes. mean, he is, they are, you could tell they are jacked. They suspected they heard gunshots. So they started chasing the car. Check this out. He later boasted about the arrest. We got the dudes.
01:05:51
Speaker
We got the car. We didn't shoot anybody. i can't get any better than this. I'm glad I didn't have to use my gun this time. Yes.
01:06:02
Speaker
So this guy... Again, and we talked about him before because he's had, this is the third third case where this guy's done something. The last two, he was within steps of getting out of the car on foot. So they're chasing somebody, they get out of their car, they start running through a field. He's out of the car within seconds, a couple of seconds.
01:06:22
Speaker
He's got his gun out and he's throwing rounds downrange. He shot one one one teenage kid, no gun found. He survived. He missed a second one. I hope I'm not anywhere in near this.
01:06:34
Speaker
Yeah. he he is ah So again, two shootings with no guns found, and one one person shot, one teenager shot. I'm sure there's going to be no lawsuit on that for the city of Cleveland.
01:06:47
Speaker
And i would think the the kicker to this whole story, let me see if I can find the exact quote. is how News Channel 5 found out about this.
01:07:00
Speaker
News Channel 5 had, where does it say that, amid amid a slew of public records requests, a Cuyahoga County official mistakenly sent the December's chase footage to the news outlets.
01:07:15
Speaker
So this is December of 24, this video that he had. They accidentally sent it to news outlets. Oh, accidentally? Are you putting air quotes around that? No, it says it.
01:07:27
Speaker
In a slew of ah public record requests, the Cuyahoga County official mistakenly sent the December chase footage to news outlets. um They weren't even asking about this chase. this they just I don't think this was an accident.
01:07:41
Speaker
From the Cuyahoga County? do You think they send him somebody sent it on a purpose? Yeah. I mean, could be. i mean, it is county. I think there's somebody that wants this. I'm reading up. but yeah While you're doing this, I'm reading a little bit about Ison Bajusi.
01:07:56
Speaker
he he He had a hard time passing the training for this. for Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was one of the one of the articles we brought up. He he was at the Mentor Police Department for ah minute, like less than a year, and they they've they got rid of him because he couldn't pass basic tests of...
01:08:15
Speaker
It was a lot to do with this, though. It was like he, and and when he gets in heightened situations, he's making bad choices. It's kind of what they said. hes He's been bounced around um and ended up on the Cleveland Police Force, or Cogna County Sheriff's Department, for about six, eight months, and then he was put on the safety patrol.
01:08:32
Speaker
Yeah, he he probably needs to take up fighting to get all this aggression out. He's he's definitely got a problem. It sounds that way, yeah. He's he's very quick to the gun. Yeah. but video of you then they have footage or they have um information on the how fast those cars are going it's all part of the deal and they were at one point it went at over 100 miles an hour and he's got the ar 50 whatever ar he has whatever rifle has it just says rifle yeah yeah it it looked like an ar it was a mac it was a air looking magazine and all you know that's a lot of the cops have um yeah those long rifles in their car so and they've replaced them over the years replace shotguns with with ars or something hundred miles an hour over a hundred miles an hour with the rifle pointed out the window yes dear lord man yes
01:09:24
Speaker
What were you going to do with that rifle? it? Are really going to start shooting the car that you're chasing through streets of Cleveland? Well, he thinks he is. Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:34
Speaker
I mean, you don't pull it out because you you know he's going to use it. He thinks he's going to. He thinks he might need to use it But as you're chasing them, you're going to start shooting them. That that seems, you know. so for but Oh, he wasn't. Okay. I was picturing him driving too. No, no, he wasn't driving. He's passing. Yeah. Joshua Vargo. I mean, like, who's this Joshua Vargo who driving the car? Why isn't he yelling at him?
01:09:57
Speaker
Tell him, i would like, I would slam on the brakes and tell him to get the F out of the car, man. No, and and and actually the contrary. Vajusi was egging him on Come on, you got him, you got him, you got him. And and there's a lot of stuff going on here because they're supposed to ask for permission.
01:10:12
Speaker
And part of the problem with the safety patrol is the sheriff's department is not under the control of the Cleveland Police Department. Cleveland Police Department is actually... on some federal monitoring ah program or whatever you want to call it. So they have certain parameters they have to meet because of how, I guess, because how bad the Cleveland police department is.
01:10:34
Speaker
Apparently somebody seems to think that. So they're on some watch group from the federally, but the County Sheriff isn't under the same scrutiny. And there's all these regulations that you have to, like before you do a pit maneuver, they did a pit maneuver on this, on this car and it actually rolled over.
01:10:51
Speaker
So pit maneuvers where they come up behind you and push your back end one way the other to get you to spit out. Yeah. But you know what? Approval of that. they And they doesn't seem like they got Cause it was another body cam footage. Do they hear, they hear him talking to the radio, but they've never asked them if it's okay to do a pit. remove Is it okay to pull my firearm out?
01:11:09
Speaker
Shoot. I think you may even have to ask, but definitely on the pit maneuver. So there's, They're all hopped up on adrenaline. Oh, man. So Vajusi yells as he comes up to the car, keep effing looking at me, bitch.
01:11:23
Speaker
And Varga screamed, let me see your effing hands, asshole. Now, i get it. But at the same time, they got a 17-year-old and a 19-year-old with two handguns in the car.
01:11:36
Speaker
Now, these guys these guys weren't good guys, I'm going to assume. But still, man. yeah yeah I'm not necessarily worried about the safety. I mean, yeah, safety of the person you're chasing, of course, but you're you're going to throw five, five, six down range.
01:11:55
Speaker
I mean, you you go, it'll go through the door, through both passengers, through the opposite door, and it'll keep going probably. So you and as you're driving a car, there's no way you can safely discharge that firearm.
01:12:08
Speaker
It was a stolen car why were why Why did they go after them in the first place? I'm sorry I missed that. They had heard gunshots, I think, in the in the area and then saw a car or saw so thought they saw somebody in the car with a gun, so they ah they they started and started the chase.
01:12:25
Speaker
And again, the other thing is, you know, Cleveland police have a very strict rules on when you could chase somebody. they may This may have passed it because of the gunshots and stuff like that, but the sheriff's office is not as scrutinized.
01:12:38
Speaker
And I don't think, I know last time we talked about it, the Sheriff um Patel, Sheriff Patel for the Cuyahoga County of Sheriff's Department, I don't know if he ever answered Cuyahoga County. at The last time we talked a couple months ago, they were still waiting for him to ah speak in front of, about Bajusi and the other incidents they've had the past year.
01:13:02
Speaker
i I have a feeling that that tape was sent not on accident. It could be because the Caga County is not a fan of the safety patrol. They want it this bar, this band.
01:13:13
Speaker
Yeah. i'm I'm thinking, I'm thinking these guys are not liked in the department. They're retards. I mean, they're out and out retards.
01:13:24
Speaker
I think and but it's also costing them like a million and a half dollars a year or more. Well, I wouldn't mind that if they were doing good job. i mean, Right. cut But crime's down, right? currently there's Crime's good and in Cleveland and Akron and stuff, remember?
01:13:41
Speaker
we gotta do it We got to do a deep dive episode into that. Yeah, we could do like ah what's going on with the stats kind of thing. I mean, because there's a lot of shenanigans and BS going on with the way they calculate this stuff.
01:13:53
Speaker
Yep. And the evidence would show it's not getting better in Cleveland. They brought the safety patrol on because of a rise, a huge spike in crime. And this was not COVID. This is only a year or so ago.
01:14:04
Speaker
So it's not COVID related. little too much power. And and i honestly, when people are dissing the police as much as we have been, like I got my problems with but cops.
01:14:17
Speaker
Yeah. Overreach and all that stuff. But all you're going to spawn is crappy, more and more crappy cops. Because the only people you're going to get to be a cop now are the complete and total a-holes that just want the power.
01:14:34
Speaker
you're You're going to get less and less of the good good people who just want to make a difference in your community and make it safer. And you're going to get more and more of the power trip kind of people. you're going to have worse and worse cops, in my opinion.
01:14:46
Speaker
And then they want to defund them all. I'd argue people all the time. No, actually, as much as I have complaints with the cops, they actually need more money because they need more training because they actually suck at their job most of the time. like You know what mean? It's like a conflict conflict um resolution is very hard.
01:15:02
Speaker
Not an easy thing. I think you have to let cops be cops. i You know, I don't have a problem with most cops. Yeah. I bitch about them, but it's it's mainly that the traffic cops.
01:15:15
Speaker
It's the power-hungry ones. that's what That's kind of of my my point. you know that's There's a lot of overreach. There's a lot of overreach. that lot time there is There is. But you're not going to make it better by...
01:15:29
Speaker
crapping on the cops all the time. you're not You're going to get worse cops and less trained cops. The more money you pull. like I guess the, the main progress priority should be finding or getting people to want to be cops again.
01:15:44
Speaker
Yes. And you know, yes. And training. Yeah, well, of course. Not just firearms training, but conflict resolution training. Because a lot these cops are, you know they show up to a domestic response and they got two people arguing, two married people or baby mama, whoever it is, arguing.
01:16:02
Speaker
And they're they're literally they're they're like a social worker. Well, they should, you know, I forget who was doing this. It didn't sound like a bad thing. I think there is a city that's sending out...
01:16:15
Speaker
cops to the conflict along with the social worker or something, you know like a psychologist, you know, i don't know. Yeah. You know, right. a cut Yeah. Yeah. Cause I think somebody that could talk people down ah little easier than cops can. Cause you know, I don't know. You get to be specifically trained to do that.
01:16:35
Speaker
Well, yeah, i think so. Deescalate the situation. It's very difficult when emotions are running high. So I feel for the cops in a lot of ways. And I say they need more training, and which would cost more money.
01:16:49
Speaker
ah yeah Well, cops, cops, you know.
01:16:55
Speaker
Excuse you.
01:16:59
Speaker
So, you know, downtown, down with the downtown safety patrols, what I say. Down with downtown safety patrols. Yeah, that at least those guys. Yeah, well, at least they've got to have better scrutiny on them. And are you getting the best of the best out of the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Department?
01:17:15
Speaker
Probably not. Probably not. he's probably ah You would imagine he's probably not taking his best guys out of office. I'm assuming that since these guys aren't being fired, and they're on administrative leave now, or they're so they're still working, but they're doing administrative work.
01:17:33
Speaker
But I'm assuming if you're not getting rid of these type of Dingbats, you got a recruitment problem. oh yeah So either end it or make
Legislation and Personal Choices
01:17:45
Speaker
big changes. i don't know.
01:17:46
Speaker
Like two police forces before then, definitely one in Mentor. And was like, yeah, no, you can't. This guy's no good. His conflict resolution is horrible. and all kinds of he He just didn't pass. He didn't last a year at Mentor. So I would say he's probably bottom of the barrel at this point, it sounds like. Well, he's's he's low IQ.
01:18:04
Speaker
yeah Low, low IQ. i'm I'm talking he's probably just on the borderline of, you know, like... Uh, retard level 68. He's probably in the seventies or eighties.
01:18:17
Speaker
Yeah. Just, just, just above the cut. Yeah. He knows how to tie his shoes. Nice. I will keep following that. i'm sure I'm sure there'll be more on that. But um yeah, south downtown safety patrol, not not the biggest fans. They don't have a lot of fans at Cogger. You might be might be right on that.
01:18:33
Speaker
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01:18:59
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01:19:21
Speaker
right. Next a couple stories, we're going to put them together. And i my question is legitimate concern or government overreach, Tom? Let's start with raw milk.
01:19:33
Speaker
Oh, no. i was under under not I was unaware that I could not go to my local farm and just buy a gallon of milk in Ohio. Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:45
Speaker
So a pair of how Republican lawmakers have introduced a bill that would legalize the sale of unpasteurized milk. Doctors warn that raw milk causes foodborne illnesses and the product is banned for a reason.
01:20:00
Speaker
um Yeah. So basically they're trying to ah put a pass a bill to reverse the ban on raw milk sales. It's a good thing. Yeah. I think, first of all, if I want to buy raw milk, I should be able buy raw milk.
01:20:12
Speaker
I mean, shoot, I can go buy bag of weed now if I wanted to. I can't buy raw milk. Well, I mean, the thing is, I know there's like a lot of whiny little bitches complaining about this, but it's like, if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it. Just buy pasteurized.
01:20:27
Speaker
Right. I will take the risk on whatever whatever comes of it. it's that's It's called my personal responsibility. I know it's a crazy so crazy thing nowadays, but... The thing is, if you know if if you know your local farmer and know them well and trust them, then there should be no issue.
01:20:45
Speaker
Raw milk's good for you. Yes. Yes. And trying to find the... Does it even say the Congress people, the Congress critters that are...
01:20:55
Speaker
ah It doesn't really. didn't see it in the article. I just skimmed over it. It's Morgan Trow again. Everywhere. Busy i't so there is this morgan morgan trial again everywhere busy girl Those oranges are giving her a lot of energy.
01:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, definitely staying healthy eating all those oranges. ah Right now, the workaround, I think some dairy farms are you're you're buying a portion of the cow. Whatever, I think the one report was you can buy like 12% of a cow gives you one gallon of milk a week.
01:21:29
Speaker
ah You know, I know other states, I don't know if you you can you can do this in Ohio, but some states, like, you can still buy raw milk, but it's sold as a pet pet food. Ah, right.
01:21:40
Speaker
Okay. And I would say if you go to your, ah if you're out close to, if you're not far from Amish. a farm somewhere, you could probably, probably get some.
01:21:52
Speaker
Yes. Uh, you didn't hear it from Kelly, Kelly Dieter, uh, Republican Norwalk might be one of the ones they have mentioned down in the article said that, you know, quote is, if you don't do it the proper way, you can really get into a whole lot of trouble.
01:22:08
Speaker
Everson said, well, state rep Katie or Kelly Dieter says that, you know, the process can be improved and he wants to legalize raw milk. Mm hmm. So basically that's it.
01:22:20
Speaker
Check it out. You might be able to get raw milk and somewhere. The people in the know will appreciate this. Yes. Yes, that is true. All others, just pull up your panties. Don't worry about it.
01:22:33
Speaker
Yeah. You don't like it. Don't buy it. yeah Next. So legit or, or, uh, Or government overreach. I think banning of raw milk is government overreach not legit.
01:22:47
Speaker
What do you say?
WNBA Incident and Humor
01:22:48
Speaker
Oh, it's overreach for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think you, I, you know, i mean,
01:22:57
Speaker
I think pasteurized milk is fine. i just, you know, but if you want to buy raw milk, you should be able to. It's just silly not to. Tom, when it comes to milk, I'm pro-choice.
01:23:10
Speaker
That's my pro-choice. Yeah. And the next out of the two is this one, which conveniently came ah on my X feed while I was at Cedar Point.
01:23:23
Speaker
actually at the hotel room at Cedar Point. And they there's some state Congress critters that want to introduce a bill that takes the guest work out of wondering which rides are open at amusement parks across Ohio.
01:23:38
Speaker
Like before you go, yeah mean? Yes. So State Rep Sean Patrick Brennan, Democrat Parma, announced the Real-Time Ride Status Notification Act, yeah which would require permanent places like Kings Island and Cedar Point to update their website and onite so and on-site signage when a ride is not running.
01:24:02
Speaker
Well, first of all, they do put a sign up when it's not running. The little sign that says, this ride is closed. I'm not sure what that means. but but Not on their website, though?
01:24:14
Speaker
Not daily closures, no. Yeah. So what they want is when riot's going to be closed that day, they would like you to put on the website. Yeah, I think the thing is, I think there's that's just way too anti-business.
01:24:28
Speaker
So the reason I think, so for example, let's start here. For example, last year, they announced a new, they updated Top Thrill 2 because they had problems with it. They'd been closed for a year, more than a year, almost two years it was closed, I believe.
01:24:41
Speaker
They had an accident. piece ah piece fell off and hit a rider in line and didn't kill her, but I mean, she's permanently, i think, disabled from it. oh So they shut the ride down.
01:24:52
Speaker
It wasn't really of any fault of Cedar Point. I mean, the part failed, I guess, and fell off. From all accounts. So, I mean, they they were sued and all this stuff went to court. So they reopened the ride a couple of years ago later, but they always had problems with top throws, never very reliable, leading to this guy's Brennan's point. But so for for the year, so they then they reopened it. They redesigned a little bit, reopened it, and they still had problems with it. So it was open for like six days and then they closed it for the rest of the year.
01:25:23
Speaker
And on their website, they put top throws closed for the rest of the year. So they do do this on occasion when big things like this happen. But what this guy wants is, mean, what I guess what I would like it too, but I i guess I see why i see your Point and Kings Island wouldn't do it.
01:25:40
Speaker
But what he would want is, okay, for example, we went there last week and the Raptor was closed. Raptor is an inverted coaster, blah, blah, blah. It was closed for both days we were there.
01:25:51
Speaker
It's one of my favorite rides. I like that ride. It would have to know was closed. It wouldn't have changed me into the park, but that's where the Cedar Point Kings Island probably don't want you know that because it's bad for business.
01:26:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to prevent people from going out. It might, yeah. You know what? If if a ride's going to be down for a while, maybe they should put that up there. Well, they did. Okay.
01:26:16
Speaker
Like, the Top Thrill was an example. They put it up on there. Yeah. All right. It was closed. They do do it in certain circumstances. So, you know, in the coaster community, think one the i think one of the Some of the information, like, so every ride goes down once a month, I would imagine. or There is some maintenance schedule for all the rides. So there are days, ah a ride, state usually from like a Tuesday through a Thursday.
01:26:42
Speaker
They'll shut the big rides down to do the regular maintenance. For example, we were there on Monday. Top Thrill was running. Tuesday, it wasn't. um because they were it wasn't because it broke. It's because i they just, they shut them down sometimes and do maintenance on it.
01:26:56
Speaker
Yeah. No, that's just silly. Yeah. at some speech yeah Throughout the day, rides go down all the time. Yep. So are they are they supposed to now update their site and then 10 minutes later updated again to say that the ride's been, because a lot of times there's so many safety things on these rides that you could shut it down, just grab the rail and shaking it, the gate that lets you, you could shut the whole ride down. So I don't know. I think it's definitely government overreach and sounds like a lot of virtue signaling. to me Yeah, you know what? He probably had a constituents complaining about it, and he said, oh, I'm going to do something about this, and it's not going to go anywhere.
01:27:30
Speaker
Cedar Point has 18 roller coasters, along with all the other rides. Yes, so one or two being down should not destroy the entire day at Cedar Point. What will destroy your other day two-hour waits that will destroy your day, but...
01:27:46
Speaker
So I think it's government overreach and it's not going to go anywhere. um But I wouldn't think I wouldn't think I wouldn't think I don't think any other park does this. And don't know if there's. Well, actually. They realized that I thought that there was something in there that they had tried to do this before, but it didn't make it out of committee. So let's know what hit this retard said.
01:28:10
Speaker
Brennan, who's trying to bring this up, but maybe, i you know, I was reading something else. Maybe you mentioned it, but he he compares this to ah public transportation or airport communication teams.
01:28:25
Speaker
Like, the ride is you know like i need you know, if I'm using public transportation, means I need to get somewhere. And same with the airport. What the hell is he talking about?
01:28:37
Speaker
It's a ride. For crying out loud. Yes, it's a ride. um i don't... um Yeah. He wants the Ohio Department of Agriculture to be in charge of it. They're already in charge of inspecting inspections in the state. We're going to start a low column here somewhere for everybody.
01:28:58
Speaker
Jesus, man. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it's a pain in the butt, but really, i mean, there's a reason they don't put it on there, and that's the reason, because they don't want you not going because one ride's down or something like that.
01:29:10
Speaker
So keep trying, but highly doubt it. Highly doubt it. Government overreach, for sure.
01:29:20
Speaker
And let's see where we go to next time. Ah, yes. Yeah.
01:29:27
Speaker
Thank goodness for an Ohio man. Because without the Ohio man, I've been looking at this story and it finally um reached Ohio. So what's the story? Well, damn Ohio man decided, an Ohio man decided to go to a WNBA game in New York.
01:29:46
Speaker
And he decided to try to go viral and toss a... A sex toy. Let's put it this way. Not safe for work, not safe for children somewhat.
01:29:58
Speaker
um You got young, young children. you may not want You may not want to get the questions these this story may create from your kids. So just so you know. What did he throw?
01:30:09
Speaker
He threw an adult sex toy onto the um onto the floor at a WNBA game. Now, this is pretty funny.
01:30:23
Speaker
But, I mean, there is a legitimate concern you could hurt somebody by throwing a, you know, ah I don't know if I was, you know, a one-foot-long lime green bright dildo onto the and to the court. You can't hurt somebody. You could poke an eye out.
01:30:40
Speaker
They could trip and blow an ACL. I mean, yes, there is legitimate concerns. Also, the the allegations are this guy, ah Chris Burgess, 32, from Dayton, Ohio, um when he threw...
01:30:53
Speaker
Sorry. He was charged with two counts of assault for allegedly throwing in an object at the Dallas Wings versus New York Liberty game on August 5th, hitting a 12-year-old girl, according to New York City police.
01:31:04
Speaker
Oh. But he didn't get it far enough? or Yes. Burgess pleaded not guilty after driving from Ohio and voluntarily surrendering himself to New York authorities. His lawyer, he's got a December court date.
01:31:17
Speaker
um Did they put, ah like, a want... wanted thing out? He's pleading not guilty. Yeah, they had a a arrest warrant, it sounds like, because that's he voluntarily, himself voluntarily.
01:31:31
Speaker
I'm trying to see where it shows. It describes the incident, and I just thought it was a funny quote. Now I can't find it. But... um So here's at the game, and there's been similar similar disturbances around the league, three or four of them, ah starting probably a month or so ago, where people are throwing, especially for some reason, they got stuck on bright green dildos.
01:31:56
Speaker
Highly visible. Highly visible. You're never you're not missing that anywhere on the court. yeah um Well, it looks great on camera. Yes, here. The court documents provided by the prosecutors say surveillance video shows Burgess pulling the sex toy out of his pants.
01:32:12
Speaker
you're hurling it towards the court but his lawyers they've pleaded not guilty because his lawyers say there's video does not appear to show anyone actually getting struck by the projectile okay he's not really I think he's getting arrested because he hit somebody with it, not because he threw out a court. Yeah, yeah.
01:32:31
Speaker
And there was a viral... you guys He could get kicked out of games for that, but... And and rightfully so, honestly. i mean Well, yeah. it's It's pretty funny. I think it's great. It's a highly real. Come on. Well, that's and and that's and I have a clip here that we're going talk about. You went from four people watching the game to 400.
01:32:51
Speaker
Thank you very much for pointing that out, because I'll just go right to the clip now, because that's basically... it It reminded me of a clip I saw from the Theo Vaughn podcast. Oh, shoot. I forgot to look at who.
01:33:05
Speaker
me see if I can see. So I have a clip from Theo Vaughn's podcast. And let me see if I want to get the comedian that was ah ah he's on with. Here it is.
01:33:16
Speaker
ah Past week, he's on with.
01:33:22
Speaker
And survey says, come on, notes. Let's go.
01:33:27
Speaker
Oh, Dusty Slay is the comedian's name. Dusty Slay. I didn't know who it is either, but he's funny and I want to give him credit. And he's got a ah bright green old school Kodiak hat on. Kodiak racing hat. That's old hat.
01:33:39
Speaker
And ah and they they they were talking about reminded me. I was like, I got to find that clip again. So I did. And here's what Theo Vaughn thinks. Kind of in the same same as you they you. guys are kind of in the same brainwave here. So this is an opportunity, he's saying.
01:33:53
Speaker
Here we go. Look at what the I-team found out about the skyline. ah Wrong one. Here's it. First of all, I'd embrace it if I'm the WNBA, right? I would shoot those things out of a t-shirt candidate during Pride Month or whatever. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, if it things get wild and people start tuning in, that's great. It's good money, you know? But you don't want people to get hurt.
01:34:13
Speaker
And I guess that's disrespectful, but it's like, make it turn the negative around. Yeah, let's put a positive spin on it. I mean, that lady was excited. I got better. I got better. And I don't know if that's AI. It could be AI.
01:34:26
Speaker
It's allegedly a picture of a woman. One of the players. But that's an attractive lady who is very fired up. And then maybe you make it like a, there's one minute during the game. It's almost like where they throw the fish on the ice.
01:34:38
Speaker
Yeah. For a hat trick. Yeah, it's like, there's like, if somebody hits three three-pointers in a row, they hit a hat trick. They throw a catfish on the ice. Or they, they are you know, they're trolling sex toys out there, bruh.
01:34:49
Speaker
Yeah, make it like a pom-pom. Like in Mississippi, they have the bells. Isn't it like Mississippi State has the bells, the cowbells? Yeah. And then like you know you have pom-poms and you have different – you could have little vibrators. so yeah mindy Yeah, just a bunch of vibration. Welcome to the hive. you place the hive or whatever? Oh,
01:35:09
Speaker
We're buzzing tonight. Ooh. And then you also have, yeah, like if somebody has three three-pointers in a row, everybody throw a dildo out there, you know? Yeah. You know, bounce a plastic keck off the floor or whatever. And then you see people taking them home with them after the game. Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. I mean, look.
01:35:29
Speaker
It's like I bought a $20 ticket. I took home a $40 dildo.
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01:35:33
Speaker
I made money. Added value. but Some kid has a collection in his room from like, you know, I don't know. I mean, look, I think you have to embrace it. You don't get free advertising like this a lot. and Throw a plastic cack on the feed.
01:35:51
Speaker
Theo, man, I love that guy. ah Welcome to the hive.
01:35:58
Speaker
But here's the point. And it is some of speculation that this is like originally started as a plant, you know, to get ratings. And he even brings up later on in the clip that, you know, Caitlin Clark is out for the year.
01:36:11
Speaker
it needs something to get ratings. Hummer hootenanny.
01:36:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. they They're very upset. I was watching clips and man, they the things sort and ah first thing they do is kick the thing off into the stands, back into the stands. I'm like, are you going to hurt somebody again? That thing's heavy.
01:36:32
Speaker
Green.
01:36:35
Speaker
You know the thing, you know what? Didn't the WNBA players just turn down a contract that raised their already, already, already yeah Bloated. Bloated salaries.
01:36:50
Speaker
i think they're look the minimum is $65,000. And ah big i forget, i saw I saw numbers between $65,000 and $250,000. But they turned down the raise that they got.
01:37:03
Speaker
And I was like, oh, God, you know nobody watches Yeah, that's probably why I saw pictures of, i think Kate McClark was one of them, but others saying, we deserve NBA money. And I thought, do you?
01:37:16
Speaker
Because the NBA subsidizes the WNBA with hundreds of millions of dollars. they lost Didn't they lose $40 million last year? so and they got i think they get like $200 and some million from the from the NBA.
01:37:29
Speaker
No, well, okay. And they still lost money, I think. i What I'm saying the NBA lost $40 million. Oh, NBA lost money? Well, to they didn't recoup any of the money they're giving the WNBA.
01:37:42
Speaker
Yes, I got you. Okay. I don't know. i what Whatever. Maybe it was the WNBA that lost $40 million. dollars But either way, you're you just... It's a joke. Stop it. This is the most headlines you've had the whole time.
01:38:00
Speaker
go go go These ladies should go get a job at a supermarket where they could get stuff off of shelves really high.
01:38:08
Speaker
That is a very, very important service. Very important service. I think that would be a great asset to their community if they could do that. so the this guy is ah pleading not guilty.
01:38:25
Speaker
and um And we'll see how it goes. But it's supposed to be a joke. And I think it's pretty funny.
01:38:35
Speaker
And like vo so leo Theo Vaughn says, take advantage of the publicity no matter which way it goes. And this can't. The hive.
01:38:47
Speaker
and I'd shoot those things out of the t-shirt cannon. It's going to hurt. That would hurt, but they you make some foam ones. yeah There you go. There you go.
01:39:00
Speaker
Put them inside the t-shirt. that we Think of all the t-shirt designs you could do now. You can get the double-fisted, the double-ended.
01:39:11
Speaker
oh my gosh. Okay, we'll leave it at that. We're getting getting getting too far down deep, I think. Whoa. i i'm Unintended, unintended pun. All right, Tom.
01:39:23
Speaker
and that note, we we're going to continue on and try pull us back onto the ah good things. We've been.
01:39:33
Speaker
ah should have been right That should have been under that, too. It should have been, actually, yes. Because in the third one, we have three little stories here. And the third one is probably should have, I probably should have flipped those two, actually, now I'm thinking about it. But it is what it is at this point. So first one is, i this is not necessarily Ohio-based, but it is something that came up, I thought, so I put it in there. The Breakfast Club movie, the movie The Breakfast Club. Tommy, time you ever watched The Breakfast Club?
01:39:57
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know how many times. Yeah, i was going to good. Yeah. Classic. ah Kids in detention, if anyone's trying to remember. Great movie. Great movie. Some of the start or kicked off some of the biggest Hollywood careers in the 80s and 90s.
01:40:13
Speaker
I would still think that holds up to younger generation now, even now. mean maybe the Maybe the cliques are called different names now, but. Yeah. No, I think it it is in a way. Yeah, I think. So but the story is it's a 40 year anniversary of the release of the movie and they're putting it back into theaters so you can go watch it in the theater.
01:40:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of cool. Which is kind of cool. And it just brought back, you know, memories for me um watching that movie over and over again. And you have a favorite character? Do you remember?
01:40:46
Speaker
ah Oh, dear, you're going to put me on the spot with names. I don't have to name names, but just describe the person you because theyre every everybody had their... The burnout guy. Yeah, Bender. Bender, yeah. And and ah you know what? I liked Emilio Estevez or whatever his name was, too. He was the jock. jo He was the jock, Actually, I kind of liked all of them. They were good. oh they were all pretty good, yeah. Yeah.
01:41:07
Speaker
um So I i figured, let's but let me find Let me clip a ah Breakfast Club mashup here. So I got a little clip, and it's ah it's the best of Bender. Nice. is a couple There's only a couple here, so let's go through it. It's pretty funny.
01:41:22
Speaker
Questions?
01:41:26
Speaker
Yeah. I got a question. Does Barry Manilow know that you raid his wardrobe? You'll get answer to that question, Mr. Bender, next Saturday. In the line of the show, of the movie right here.
01:41:37
Speaker
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns. but
01:41:43
Speaker
That man is a brownie hound. What's a brownie hound? Look, you guys keep up your talking and Vernon's gonna come right in here. I gotta meet this Saturday. I'm not gonna miss it on the count of you boneheads. Oh, and wouldn't that be a bite, huh?
01:41:56
Speaker
Missing a whole wrestling meet. You wouldn't know anything about it, faggot. You've never competed in your whole life. Oh, I know. I feel all empty inside because of it. I have such a deep admiration for guys who roll around on the floor with other guys. You'd never miss it.
01:42:11
Speaker
You don't have any goals. Oh, but I do. Yeah? I want to be just like you. I figure all I need is a lobotomy and some tights. You're not fooling anybody, Bender.
01:42:23
Speaker
The next screw that falls out is going to be you. Eat my shorts. What was that?
01:42:31
Speaker
Do a part, got it from. Eat my shorts. You just bought yourself another Saturday. Trust. You just bought one more right there. Well, I'm free this Saturday after that.
01:42:42
Speaker
Beyond that, I'm going to have to check my calendar. Good. can't show Because it's going to be filled. We'll keep going. You want another one? Say the word. Just say the word. Instead of going to prison, you'll come here.
01:42:55
Speaker
Are you through? No. I'm doing society a favor. So? That's another one right now. yeah well I've got you for the rest of your natural born life. If you don't watch your step, you want another one? Yes.
01:43:06
Speaker
You got it. You got another one right there. That's another one, pal. Cut it out. Is that Molly? You through? Yeah. Not even close, bud. Good.
01:43:17
Speaker
You got one more right there. You really think I give a shit? Another.
01:43:24
Speaker
yeah through? How many is that? That's seven, including the moment we first came in and you asked Mr. Vernon here whether Barry Manilow knew that he raided his closet. Yeah. That's Michael Anthony Hall, right? Yes, I believe it. Yeah, yeah. He was a geek. He was a good character, too. He was a good guy. Yeah, I mean, out of all the characters, he was the one. Yeah, he's, oh, I love that guy.
01:43:43
Speaker
But he was great in that movie. That was a scene. Yeah, I mean, it's seven, including the one.
01:43:49
Speaker
So that's in theaters again. Yeah, that's awesome. Let's see. Breakfast Club has often been cited as the best in best of lists, including Empire's 2014 301 Greatest Movies Time.
01:44:01
Speaker
greatest movies of all time like one of those Gen X movies. that I think that's, it's an anniversary of course, but that's why they're putting it back in. Cause we're, we're the last generation that's spending any money.
01:44:13
Speaker
Yeah. Good point. Well, we're at that. Yep. At that point. So good times. Go see it. I i may i may actually do that. I think i think that might be ah something we put on the list of things to do this summer and fall. See how long it's on.
01:44:26
Speaker
and Have your kids seen that? I think my oldest one has, but I should got to talk to my wife and see. I'm not sure. But that was one the things we were planning on doing, and taking them with us to the movies here. Yeah, yeah.
01:44:39
Speaker
Does it tell us? Your youngest might not get might not get it True. That's actually a good point. Because she's almost at the age now where she's we guess we gotta to we got to watch Ferris Bueller. There's certain cult classics i got they have to watch. Oh, yeah.
01:44:55
Speaker
And this should be one of them for sure. I think 16 Candles was one that my wife watched with my oldest daughter. Yeah, the Molly Ringwald trifecta.
01:45:06
Speaker
You know what's funny is like she's like a girl that i didn't really find all that cute back then when I was a teenager, but I look back at her now and from those days, I'm like, man, why didn't I? She was cute as that.
01:45:17
Speaker
Yeah, I thought the hot one was the the other chick. I can't remember her name now. After they made her up? Yeah. at that and At the end of the movie? Yeah. Yeah. But I was like, no, I don't want the preppy one. I want that one.
01:45:30
Speaker
That's the one that's hot to me. But Molly, iss she's beautiful. and she she was i don't did she What did she ever end up doing after these movies? Did she ever go in? don't remember. saying I think she was so, like, oh and she kept acting, but she never got roles that were, ah let me look that up real quick.
01:45:50
Speaker
Oh, just so you know, it's theatrical run will run between September 7th and conclude on September 10th. I just, oh, September. Good it's to know. It's only four or five days. And if you visit Fandango, we'll put that in the link in the show notes. They'll tell you where it's being shown.
01:46:04
Speaker
I just saw her in a movie recently, like a newer movie. Oh, good. I'm going to, gosh, IMD, right? Is that what that thing is called? I am, yeah. DB. Internet Movie Database. Yep.
01:46:20
Speaker
Yeah, I just saw her recently. she she was She did a great job acting. Yeah, I thought she was great in all those movies. She was great back then. I think she took time to have a family. Yeah, that's why that's what I was thinking, yeah, I'm sure.
01:46:33
Speaker
Which, good. Yeah. Yeah, so go check it out and... Send us your review. if it's still see if it Tell us if it holds up or not. ah Pretty in pink, 16 candles in breakfast club. Breakfast club, the ring wall trifecta.
01:46:50
Speaker
The one thing I didn't see was for keeps, which is from that same era. oh okay. I don't remember that. I don't either. I don't either. So go check it out. And like I said, tell us if it holds up.
01:47:02
Speaker
We'd like to know what you think. Look at rivercast at gmail.com. Next we have, we'll touch on, there's a new baby at the zoo. Yay.
01:47:13
Speaker
Baby at the zoo. No, that was definitely not the right. that was I got to get those things away from each other on my soundboard. They're right next to each other.
01:47:23
Speaker
I clicked the wrong one. So new baby at the zoo. i don't know. I just kind of, but thought I saw some pictures. And ah originally, you know, they have a, if you go on this website, the zoo website, you can um you can cast your vote.
01:47:35
Speaker
That's kind of why I clicked on this. put it in the in the lineup. And then as I started of reading through it, I was kind disappointed because they already have preset names that you had to pick from.
01:47:46
Speaker
And which to me is boring because they got Zane, which means noble. They got Malik, which means King Albert, which means referencing Lake Albert in Uganda. And I thought we could come up with our own.
01:47:58
Speaker
i thought like long neck, Nick, would be one. um But since they already pre-planned it, they're boring. But if you want, still participate. You can go to the site, vote which name you think we should put for the new giraffe at the zoo.
01:48:17
Speaker
So he he will be the king of his half acre plot on the zoo. Good for him.
01:48:25
Speaker
I do like going to the zoo, but I do sometimes go, it's kind of, it's like keeping your dog in the house all the time. There's things that suck about it, but there's, I mean, educationally, it's nice. It is great for the kids to go. Educationally, it's nice. But again, it's like keeping your dog locked up in the house all the time.
01:48:42
Speaker
But, I get too far deep there, but they have a new, uh, new little baby giraffe. Go see him. I'll help, uh, pick out his name. And, uh, that's that. Check it out.
01:48:53
Speaker
Put the link in the show notes, as they say. And lastly, the summer countdown. This is the one I think I probably should have flipped. i probably should have put the, um,
01:49:04
Speaker
the WNBA story on the good things and put this on the regular story because it is a countdown for summer. And according to this list, this is a day old. So we got to take a day off. So there's nine days to Labor Day.
01:49:19
Speaker
This is on, I guess, on Saturday, the 23rd. Nine days to Labor Day, 15 days to the Browns' first game, which is, ah and just i mean, the longer that takes, the longer don't have to deal with all the heartache. So 30 days to fall, the first day of officially of fall is 30 days away.
01:49:36
Speaker
First sunset at 6 p.m. It's 44 days away. First Cavs game is 60 days away. Halloween, 69 days away. so halloween sixty nine days away 69! 69! I don't know. Hang on. Gotta do it right. 69!
01:49:52
Speaker
yeah got of do it right
01:49:57
Speaker
That was perfect. Thank you. Thank you. So point of this is summer is winding down. If you have, there are things you wanted to do that you haven't done yet.
01:50:08
Speaker
Go do them. Cause you only got you know a couple of weeks left ah month at most. From mid August to end of September is my favorite part of the summer. Just because ah the weather, you can actually and enjoy the outdoors rather than sweating your balls off.
01:50:24
Speaker
Yeah, i was kind of disappointed. know, we went to Cheater Point. um That was kind of our final hurrah for the summer for the but the kids before they went to school. And that's the other tip-off for everybody. Back to school season the past couple weeks. So alllthough all the kids are going back to school, which signifies the end of summer, in my opinion.
01:50:41
Speaker
or the approach of end of summer. Yeah. um You know, when we were talking about what day to go and picking what day to go, i just told my wife, I said, look, I want 75 and partly cloudy.
01:50:53
Speaker
As long as we got 75 and partly cloudy, we're good. Well, 73 and sunny, Tom. I was like, you know, you were close.
01:51:05
Speaker
But I asked for 75 and partly cloudy. 73 and sunny will do, though. 73 and sunny is pretty darn good. 73 and sunny was freaking awesome. I was like, how do we, you know, and then that we stayed overnight. And the following day, we woke up in the morning and debating we should go in for a couple hours before we leave. And then it poured the whole rest of the day. Oh, really? Not maybe the whole rest of the day but most of the morning.
01:51:27
Speaker
And had a co-worker that was trying to go there with this kid. And he said they really didn't get on any rides. pulled the plug at 1 o'clock and just went home. So, yes yeah, you know, couldn't have picked a better day. And it was, but that's, yeah yes, whole point of that was ah it does cool down, but you also get rain.
01:51:47
Speaker
So you had to, you know. September actually. September's pretty good, yeah. September is like one of the least. I think he has the least amount of rain historically for summer.
01:51:59
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. But yeah. but Yeah. when Once you start getting those fronts coming in where it starts cooling down a little bit, you get some rainy days. That's okay though. That's okay. So get out and get some stuff done before summer is gone and fricking complaining about snow.
01:52:16
Speaker
Yeah. I'll take this all day long. All day long. All year long. And on that, very happy somewhat, I guess, happy notes. Summer is ending, but go out and get something done. um That's the end of the show.
01:52:28
Speaker
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01:52:38
Speaker
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01:52:53
Speaker
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