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Crooked River Cast Show 28
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- Meet the candidates for Ohio Gov other than Amy and ViVek.
- Medicaid fraud sweep with millions.
- CLE Fire Chief update and Cuyahoga Council moment of silence was just too much for some.
- Lake County on board to helping ICE. Geauga County update.
- Akron Police use of force review cost how much?
- What does transformative art and the new county jail have in common?
- Cuyahoga Sherif’s Deputy in the dumps after porta-potty incident.
Good Things:
- It’s picking season! Pumpkin and Apple’s that is
- Ohio Lakes get stocked with fish.
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Transcript
Welcome to Crooked Rivercast
00:00:02
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Crooked Rivercast. I'm your host, Robert, and joining me every week is my friend Tom as we attempt to stay in front of some what is going on Northeast Ohio.
00:00:12
Speaker
This is show 28, recorded on September 27th, 2025. Another week has gone by and of course we've got lots of stuff to talk about, so let's go. What's up, Rob?
00:00:24
Speaker
Hello in the morning, sir. How are you? I'm doing so good.
00:00:31
Speaker
Another week? Another week. Yeah. Sometimes you ask me that and I'm trying to think of what happened this week and I just draw a blank.
Memorable Meals in Cleveland
00:00:40
Speaker
Yeah. ah You know, it's it's the pressure, man. It's the pressure of that microphone. Let's see. Week to me, what was my highlight of my week? ah It would have to be visit to a restaurant, I think.
00:00:55
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Definitely was eating. That's a lot of times highlight of my week. Oh, boy, don't look down. um So, Bruno's. You ever been to Bruno's? i Never heard of it.
00:01:08
Speaker
So, it's a little Italian place. I think they're, was up in Cleveland, they're on West 41st, I think it was, up by the Shoreway. ah Bruno's Ristorante and Catering?
00:01:19
Speaker
yeah ye Yes. Okay. Little place, they probably have 10 tables max, and went there for lunch. Oh, God.
00:01:29
Speaker
I'm looking at the menu. I'm like, I don't know what to get. ah a friend of mine I'm with goes, Hey, can we ah he's, he's, he's a regular there. Kind of, he goes, have the dinner menu? So we're at there was lunch. Oh crap. Dinner menus.
00:01:40
Speaker
but as So I, I got to look at the full menu and I was originally going with the chicken parm. Cause that's just a solid, let me see how good this Italian restaurant is. How good can they make a chicken or veal parm? Well, then I looked down and it's lasagna voted best in Cleveland.
00:01:54
Speaker
Oh, i'll I'll try that, yes. Well, let me be the judge of that. I'm looking at their menu right now. And I'd say it's probably the best I've ever had. and kidding. Oh my gosh, it was so good.
00:02:07
Speaker
Best in, it was voted best in Ohio? Best in Cleveland, I thought it said. Best in Cleveland, okay. Now here's the problem.
00:02:18
Speaker
The bread. Oh, yeah. It was so, so good. Yeah, but you can't have any before dinner. So there were three of us at lunch, and um and i I'm ashamed to say we polished off three baskets of bread.
00:02:36
Speaker
And then we had the jalapenos, sausage-stuffed jalapenos, banana peppers, the big ones. But they were they had some, oof, that was good. Oh, my gosh. and then we had settler soup, wedding soup, which was, i mean, again, keep going, delicious.
00:02:54
Speaker
That's why the third basket of bread had, you know, because you got a wedding soup. You got have bread to dip in it. And then the lasagna came. i was like, is it too early to ask for a box? Because, man, that was so good. But I would highly recommend i would assume on a weekend you'd probably need reservations because they're so small.
00:03:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. There were some tables open when we were there about 1130, quarter to 12. So on whatever day it was, middle of the week. Man, it was so good. Definitely. Cool. Definitely worth worth the trip up or from wherever you're at. I would definitely check it out.
00:03:27
Speaker
Awesome. That was definitely the highlight week. But I mean, the week, I mean, ah it's one of those. i mean, we what did we start out with?
Political Unrest and Tensions
00:03:36
Speaker
We could start out with shenanigans at the U.N., n ah Texas ice facility was attacked. That was this week, wasn't it?
00:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was this week. I'm getting them all mixed up, Tom. um Riots that were in and the ice in Chicago. It's ramping up quickly. as we Remember we were talking the week ah after the week, a show after Charlie was assassinated.
00:04:01
Speaker
We both hoped it would simmer down, but we kind already knew it it wasn't. no what we We have ice agents and... and ice agents and um To me, this is a concerning one. National Guard in California who have conflicting borders.
00:04:17
Speaker
there the And the cops are being, other are the cops going to go to the ICE agents and take their masks off? How's that gonna work out? Well, that's going to go to ah the court system. and Yeah. Because I don't think Newsom has any authority over Fed. Yeah. ah so I saw that law. I was like, oh, that's go to be interesting.
00:04:36
Speaker
ah What else we have? Iowa superintendent is now in ICE custody because he's got issues.
00:04:43
Speaker
I mean, and former director of the FBI just got indicted. and oh yeah. By the way, just throwing the the thinking about what drones in Venezuela. i was listening last Oh, I haven't even heard anything about that. I don't even know why. like I'm assuming something with drugs or don't know. Maybe it's, I was like, well, well, that's a hell of a week.
00:05:00
Speaker
Huh?
00:05:04
Speaker
Yeah. that does I was like, well, why have I a national story? Just talk about it all this. ah fall Oh my gosh. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on. lot of stuff going on. So we've got to pay attention and all this stuff, which grabs your attention away from what mostly matters, which is local politics, which is why we have this show is why we started this show because we find, we found ourselves only talking about the national stuff while all this other stuff and local goes around, goes on. And we,
00:05:35
Speaker
never hear about it until after the fact or even long you know, you read a story with nine different ah new laws being enacted that you you didn't know of any of them in Ohio.
00:05:48
Speaker
of what made open my eyes.
Ohio Governor Race
00:05:51
Speaker
So on that kind of note, my first story for for me this week is this one from Fox 8 that we had in the lineup.
00:05:59
Speaker
Meet the lesser known candidates for Ohio governor. kind of piqued my interest. I said, good, and let me hear. Who else is there? So besides Amy Acton and Vivek Ramaswamy, considering the fact that Mike DeWine is term limited,
00:06:19
Speaker
and he will be out, there's obviously just an open field. And besides Amy and Vivek, who else else is there? So here's a list of of who is you know, running for governor.
00:06:33
Speaker
ah For example, Heather Hill, there's a list of five or four right now. Heather Hill, ah Timothy Grady, ah Jacob Charub, Charub, Charub, Charub. Horrible.
00:06:45
Speaker
Chiara. Chiara. think. Let's see. Yeah, Chiara. And Philip Funderburg, which I've heard before. I think I've seen that on and Twitter. so ah So Heather Hill, former Republican, unannounced.
00:06:59
Speaker
Timothy Grady, is independent. Jacob is a Democrat Chiara and, Philip Funderburg is a Republican. Except Jacob Chiara is a former Republican gone Democrat because his party doesn't exist any longer. So he's, uh, he, he thinks, uh, the Republicans now are characterized by blind loyalty and extremism.
00:07:24
Speaker
So gay, um, the first one that piqued my interest though was Heather Hill. Heather Hill, who was ah another former Republican, now unannounced.
00:07:36
Speaker
Independent. No, no. Yeah. as I guess she's going to go as, and what else can you do? she's She's considering independent, libertarian, or American Party candidate. American Party. Yeah, thank you. Yep.
00:07:47
Speaker
Definitely not Democratic Party. ah So that kind of interests me former Republican, why why she is a former Republican candidate and and pulled out. So I started looking a little bit into Heather Hill.
00:08:01
Speaker
And then apparently she's been trying to get a meeting with, with the, I think he is the, what did i have him as GOP political director, Mitch Tully for, for quite a while.
00:08:14
Speaker
ah so she decided to go to his office one day and see if he get a meeting. She can get a meeting with him. Her and her husband went and waited and waited and, um, you know she can can we Can I schedule meeting? Can we meet with me today?
00:08:29
Speaker
Any of those things would be good. So after waiting a while, and the and I guess his assistant went to the bathroom, she peeked her head in and said, hey, I'm here. I've been here. Can we talk? you know I've been trying to get a hold of you. And she got quite a ah different response.
00:08:43
Speaker
Here's a... Well, was but i me let me can we finish setting it up. He refused to talk to her and told her, basically, get out of my office. i don't have I don't owe you anything. i don't have to talk to you. ah don't really care.
00:08:56
Speaker
And ah it was quiet. And called the cops on her to kick her out. and she And her husband recorded it. Here's a little clip from that. I mean, you're going to make these accusations from a GOP senior ah staffer and political director.
00:09:13
Speaker
She has some video to back it up, so here's a little clip from it. That runs in the state. I'm actually not under any obligation to help you.
00:09:23
Speaker
She has been waiting and waiting and calling and calling, and we have been here. yeah Wow. his mouth shut. No, you better keep your mouth shut. He's trying to bait you. He's trying to bait you. Just stop.
00:09:35
Speaker
Here's the cops. The way the situation is right now, um the representative of This suite, you know, right this floor, has asked you guys to leave.
00:09:48
Speaker
And he also is saying that if you don't leave, he would like you criminally trespassed. Now, what that means is we're going to ask you to leave. And if you don't, ah you will be arrested for criminal trespassing.
00:10:03
Speaker
Yeah. So... I think that's part of the reason why she pulled out the Republican Party. i don't think she feels very welcome in the Republican Party. but i'm I'm trying to figure out what the heck happened.
00:10:14
Speaker
I know it doesn't really make sense. we're We're missing context. I think you're correct. i I'm thinking off the top that she was just kind of annoying and probably persistent.
00:10:28
Speaker
Well, duh. Yeah, she's persistent. And the fact that she showed up and sat there, peeked her head in, probably offended him, I would imagine. And I ah get it. Still not a good look.
00:10:42
Speaker
I
Heather Hill's Political Journey
00:10:43
Speaker
still think we're, yeah, no, it's not a good look, but I still think there's a lot of missing context. The guy the guy went to eleven Yes. So I dug a little more, obviously. i'm I'm looking online, seeing a little bit more from Heather. I want to see what but is she about.
00:11:02
Speaker
And i don't know. I kind of like what I hear, be honest with you. And one of the one of what first things I heard was this little... um I guess, exchange about her running. This is probably six, six, i we maybe 10 months ago.
00:11:17
Speaker
This is channel three WKYC interviewing her after she announced at the state house. And, you know, they're in a room with all the women's rights, uh, stuff display behind them and stuff like that. And, I thought she handled this, this question pretty well, considering what I expected to come out.
00:11:37
Speaker
So here, When I look around this room, there is a lot of imagery and history when it comes to the journey for women to have the right to vote, votes for women.
00:11:51
Speaker
And now here we are, and you are running for governor. We're here at the statehouse where this could be your office, not just as a woman, but as a woman of color.
00:12:01
Speaker
What goes through your mind when you think about the journey from ah sash votes for women to this moment? It's an honor. It's an honor. um I've had so many people that have contacted me.
00:12:16
Speaker
i had no clue that if I'm elected, I'll be the first ever African-American female governor in the United States. i I didn't know that. And I've had so many people that have reached out to me wanting to support me because of that fact. And I'm like, you need to support me because I'm the best person for this job.
00:12:34
Speaker
I have life experiences that will help Ohio become the best that it can be. That was unexpected when I heard that, to be honest with you. i mean, and don't i don't mind. I mean, that sounds sounds legit.
00:12:50
Speaker
Sounds good. and that's what she That way everybody should be answering that. Yeah, great. But maybe you should look at what I stand for instead of just what I look like. Yeah, sure she'll have a hard time. with shes she's not getting She has no chance. no She won't have any money backing her.
00:13:05
Speaker
That's okay. I'm not saying she's she's going to win it all, but ah she's a former or she's burn or performer school board member, was president the school board.
00:13:19
Speaker
don't remember what county. they write didn't type it Morgan County. Morgan County. There it is. Morgan County, board president, business owner, and mother of two.
00:13:27
Speaker
she's ah She's a woman from ah Morgan co County. ah she She comes from Appalachia. And she Morgan County is has 15,000 people.
00:13:39
Speaker
so And a small business owner, ah which I'm assuming is in Morgan County. So why is she running for governor? She's had two foster kids shot and killed by police.
00:13:53
Speaker
um So after the second one, she got a lot of support and a lot of people asking and to run for governor. And so she, she did. And there's a next little clip from this report.
00:14:07
Speaker
This number, this is from ABC six WSYX. not sure what they're out of, but Ohio, Ohio ABC affiliate interviewed her and asked, well, I don't, a Republican.
00:14:19
Speaker
So that, Kind of a traumatic situation. I'm surprised to hear that you would run as a Republican. Why? are Usually, you know, I mean, usually what? I think you would expect that kind of a thing would would would have turn happen to someone and they would become or run as a Democrat. Tell me why he's trying to say those are affecting you and why you're running as a Republican candidate for governor.
00:14:44
Speaker
Well, I'm interested to find out why you would think I wouldn't run as a Republican because our Republican values are exactly what... ah what led me to be a foster parent. I don't, I, you know, we, we believe in taking care of children. We believe in bridging the gaps between law enforcement and people with mental illnesses.
00:15:07
Speaker
We um have very strong Christian values in the Republican party. So those are, those are the things that, that keep me a Republican and keep me grounded. And one of some of the things that made me a very good foster parent.
00:15:21
Speaker
So I'm, I'm very proud to be a Republican. Yeah. is obviously before she yeah pulled out as a Republican candidate. I know she's not going to win, but ah she could be useful for a cabinet position.
00:15:38
Speaker
Does she have something to give? I mean, she's she seems pretty motivated, and she sounds good to me.
00:15:46
Speaker
he thought yeah I want to know why two of her kids got shot by police. Foster kids. She raised him, I'm assuming. Maybe. Depends. yeah we don't know what she yeah We don't know when she got him.
00:15:59
Speaker
but Yeah, you could get a foster kid at 15. you know I don't know. they asked he ah He did ask in an interview a little bit more about it, and she didn't want to comment because he... e It's still ongoing.
00:16:11
Speaker
the The families, the natural-born or the natural mothers, natural parents are suing.
00:16:20
Speaker
which is suing the police. Yes. Or suing the county, the city, whoever. Yeah. I mean, you don't, I mean, you don't have enough time to be their parent, but I mean, if there's a payout at the end, sure. Yeah. Right. i Yeah. Again, I'm not, I'm just, I just, I went to look into her and kind of surprised me a little bit. I did not expect, I don't know.
00:16:42
Speaker
I didn't, I didn't expect those answers that you usually you get, but she kind of pushed back on both of those. Like, Hey, basically it's like, I don't care if I'm, I don't care if you like me because I'm black or a woman vote for me for who, for what I stand for and what kind of, you know, what kind of, but what I can offer you. You know, but it seems like we ah women and if you're a black woman,
00:17:04
Speaker
You have to be ah Democrat. Yes. You you get pushback from your, I'd like to explore why you think I should, I shouldn't be a Republican.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah. He kind of, he he could tell halfway through the ah right away, beginning of the question, he was about to step in it. Reporter. Yeah. You know, I've been seeing a lot of that actually. ah This is the first time from Ohio, but I do see a lot of that around the country where ah a black woman is running as a Republican and they're they're just getting ah a crap ton of pushback from, uh, from the community or from reporters, from, from the media, I would think more than anything
Challenges for Black Republican Women
00:17:43
Speaker
else.
00:17:43
Speaker
Yeah. breaks their, their brain. They don't know quite what to do. That's not supposed to happen. It's their brain just, just melts. Well, like the black men that they do, you know, that run as a Republican or, you know, often called like uncle Toms or whatever. What are you going to, you can't, there's, you can't attack a woman.
00:18:05
Speaker
You know, it's hard to yeah ah for for the media to come out looking good by doing that.
00:18:13
Speaker
but thought that was kind of interesting. Again, yeah no chance of winning. But, you know, I mean, we we want people we want people to get involved in politics. I'd say we um we point out the ones that are getting involved, I guess.
00:18:24
Speaker
but Agree or don't agree. Yeah, but I don't know why she has to run for governor right away. Right governor. Right to governor. Yeah, why doesn't she get a become a mare first? she seemed I don't know how old she is. I'm looking at a picture of her. She doesn't seem, you know.
00:18:39
Speaker
No, she's not old. I mean, I would put her in her 40s. But black don't crack, I don't know. They do very well, yes. and but black don't crack so i don't know um they do age very well yes But I don't know why she can't just... She had a start. She ran she was on the school yeah district board. She was a president. and The president.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, which which was great. So now run for another... Run for mayor, one for city council. Yeah, yeah. council, whatever it is. and i think I think it's a big leap for her. She needs to make... a inroads in in the party if she wants to run as a Democrat.
00:19:19
Speaker
um i mean, ah Republican, I'm sorry. Really curious on why Tully was so violently against talking to her. I really want to know. hey one but that That seems a little misleading, too. we're So maybe that's bad on her.
00:19:36
Speaker
You know, it seemed disingenuous on her part to put just that out. Or she just put that out? Or is that what? That's 10 months old. Right. that's all Well, you mean just that alone? I mean, no, she has a whole, well she has a whole video of 15 minutes or whatever it was. Okay. All right. She's been trying to get get a meeting with him, get a meeting with him. And that's why I went to, I think she just, and she's just persistent and is annoying the crap out of him. And the fact that she sat there for whoever knows how long. And then when the, when the assistant went to the bathroom, she took the opportunity to peek her head. She even says in a video, I waited till he was off the phone. I can hear him through the wall. He got off the phone. I peeked my head and said, Hey,
00:20:13
Speaker
Can we have schedule appointment or can you meet with me today? And I wonder why they were avoiding an appointment. Exactly. I don't know. Yeah. yeah We'll see.
00:20:26
Speaker
That's so one of the candidates. Yeah. That's one of the candidates. So Heather Hill one. figured maybe will throughout the next coming months, we can dig into a couple more of these. I don't think any of them are actually going to run.
00:20:39
Speaker
The only person that they mention, which they don't mention much of, maybe because he's he's got a name brand, ah Tim Ryan as Democrat. He hasn't announced, but Morgan Trout, oh, our lovely Morgan Trout, tweeted something that she saw. Miss Morgan, really do.
00:20:55
Speaker
She saw... ah she saw Tim Ryan, I think in DC, she said, or somewhere at the state house. I forget. I forget where she saw him, but um he said, hell yeah, we're running, but he hasn't formally announced.
00:21:11
Speaker
Yeah. It'll basically take the wind out of all these other people. Yeah. yeah Yeah. It's going it's going to knock Amy acting out, but I don't think, I guess he's he would have the best chance to get against Vivek.
00:21:24
Speaker
Yes. But this Philip Funderburg sounds interesting because he's a 10th generation Ohioan and a platform on deportations. In the social social media bio, he promises to deport all anchor babies, Vivek Ramaswamy's, in parentheses.
00:21:40
Speaker
Yeah. ah Haitians and all their illegals in Ohio, he says. Well, you know, that's a start. I mention Haitians, so I mean, if they mention Haitians, I have to... They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats.
00:21:53
Speaker
had to do that at least.
00:21:56
Speaker
never Never miss opportunity. So there
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Medicaid Fraud Indictments
00:22:51
Speaker
seems like the Ohio attorney general is on a mission to, maybe they maybe they're always doing this and it's just in the headlines, to find some Medicaid fraud. So Attorney General Dave Yost announced indictments against several greater Cleveland health care providers accusing accused of defrauding Medicaid, totaling $1.6 million.
00:23:12
Speaker
Yeah, we did a story on this ah earlier this year. i think it was separate. This is new people, though. I don't think this is the same people. Because these numbers are way higher than and the ones i was looking at um before.
00:23:24
Speaker
I think those other ones weren't indicted. They were just on ah they were investigating them. is And these people I think now are the ones that are indicted. So fraud control unit uncovers schemes, including billing for non rendering rendered services operating illegally, despite felony convictions and submitting claims while providers were on vacation.
00:23:49
Speaker
And couple of these people, I mean, you're thinking it's, you know, there's a few in here, 6,000, 7,000. There's a couple, here's a couple here. Leon Shepard, 36 of Cleveland.
00:24:01
Speaker
Yeah. No, the best one is ah Nisha Haynes, 39 of Eastlake. She does win the top spot, yeah. $819,000 Doesn't say, doesn't.
00:24:17
Speaker
of fraud doesn't say
00:24:22
Speaker
Say what she did, though, was indicted on charges of aggravated theft and Medicaid fraud costing the government program. Some of these, they actually say, well, and this one guy, Leon Shepard, 36, between January 2024 and July of 2024, so like six months, seven months, investigators estimate the loss of Medicaid $488,444. Yeah.
00:24:46
Speaker
cow.
00:24:50
Speaker
yeah oh I mean, he's making, that's a million bucks a year. That's somebody that just gets greedy. I mean, they, i mean, they could, they could have probably got away with this for years and boy, they just.
00:25:04
Speaker
Hopefully not anymore. Cause some of these are even, know, one here, for $4,600, uh, Sean, 21, 21,000, $21,000, $7,000 for, Burgundy Jones. Yeah.
00:25:11
Speaker
twenty one twenty one thousand twenty one thousand seven thousand dollars burgundy jones
00:25:21
Speaker
like a fake name. Here's another one, $230,936 to 47 of Ashtabula, to a ralph wells forty seven of astubula They cleared wells of fraud. They found that he had been convicted of murder in West Virginia in 1998, and he was ineligible to be a Medicaid provider, but still billed $230,000 of services.
00:25:44
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think one of these other people were felons also. You can't be ah you can't be a Medicaid provider if you're if you were ever convicted of a felony. Yeah.
00:25:56
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, this is a Lionel Massey, 67, from Akron. But he was he was the lowest one, $4,633. Yeah. I don't, the how do they,
00:26:14
Speaker
so you fill out paperwork and tell them that you're not a felon, but don't they check that?
00:26:20
Speaker
You're asking me. It's the government at work. iraq I'm just assuming they, if you fill it, they have to check that. Otherwise you're going on the honor system for probably whether you're a criminal. i mean, it sounds that way. Cause apparently yeah it's something somehow they're slipping through.
00:26:34
Speaker
I don't know if legally they can ask you that actually. i don't I don't know. but like no i guess I guess they can't. I think they do want it even on like a private yeah company.
00:26:46
Speaker
ask you for so our So our Medicaid system never did a background check on any of these people? And really what to me, what this focus points out and focuses on for me is everybody's crying about the cuts to Medicaid. Oh, you know, billions of dollars of cuts over 10 years.
00:27:06
Speaker
no't no order it's It's billions of dollars of cut, but over a long period of time. They're not just lopping it off at the end. And secondly, there is... just unbelievable amounts of fraud.
00:27:17
Speaker
If we just took a little bit of a look every now and again, i bet most of those cuts we can make it up by just eliminating fraud.
00:27:26
Speaker
But no, we're just going to sit there and cry about Trump and and his cuts. That's what we'll do. They're going after him. I hope they go on time harder. let's I mean, get my money back. how do you get Are they ever going to get this money back? No. Definitely not.
00:27:42
Speaker
Definitely not. So as they move on, I guess we'll keep an eye on them and see ah see what else they can find. I hope they continue to do this. I hope it's not a one-time thing. would imagine it's not because I think they they did pass something in the budget had extra money for ah investigating fraud. So maybe this part of it.
00:28:02
Speaker
Next, we have an update, the Cleveland Fire Chief update. Got a couple little um but tidbits to add to that and and some other people getting themselves in hot water. We can go over with this whole ah still dealing with the aftermath of Charlie Kirk.
00:28:18
Speaker
And last week, we talked about the Fire Chief that had been suspended with pay. And I i thought, well, basically the whole story really is they've hired an outside investigation firm to look at the fire chief, which I thought was interesting.
00:28:39
Speaker
And the other part of the story was that I was angry about this, that he wasn't just fired, that he was off on paid leave And it it it says here is it's basically because basically because it's a civil matter, civil service process.
00:28:58
Speaker
but That's one of the reasons i pulled it because they answered your question. here and here's Here's your answer. Some of you have asked, why is the chief on paid leave? So we asked the city. And the answer we received was that this is part of the civil service process.
00:29:12
Speaker
we also
00:29:15
Speaker
Yeah. Which doesn't really explain much other than I think basically they look at, they ah get rid of you, take you off the job, and they keep paying you until they investigate you. And then if they find out you did something wrong, then you're out.
00:29:30
Speaker
It's probably just, it's probably something they just have to, it's just part of the process. Yeah. They have they that's they have to, they, they take you off the job, but keep paying you until, until they investigate. I guess that would be, but they also asked, what about the other firefighters and what, have you ever done this before?
00:29:48
Speaker
wondered how often Cleveland firefighters get in trouble for something posted online. We've requested records of firefighters punished over the social media policy since 2023. The law department told us it had no records.
00:30:03
Speaker
I mean, he went all the way back to 2023, like a whole year and a half.
00:30:11
Speaker
I don't know if you've noticed if've noticed these two in this article. They are Ed Galeck and Peggy Galeck. That's how they pronounce it. Galeck. I think it's Galeck.
00:30:25
Speaker
They're husband and wife team. And when they do their reports, we've had a mine before. We've had a close one before. They finish each other's sentences. like They'll say one sentence from a paragraph, and then he says another sentence, and then she says the the next sentence, and then he says It's quite annoying.
00:30:43
Speaker
Quite annoying. I've listened to it enough going, what? what what Is Fox 8 getting a deal, like two for one on these people? Okay, it's Fox 8 you're getting that from? The I-team.
00:30:55
Speaker
They are the I-team. Oh, yeah. ah Ed Gallick and Peggy Gallick. I mean, I'm not saying they do bad. I mean, besides, you know, going a whole year and a half back, which is not really reporting.
00:31:06
Speaker
um But it's ah and the other thing is one that here's what's the most annoying thing is I remix it after I pulled a clip. I export it into mono because for some reason with their reports and a lot of Fox 8 reports, they have in this case, I have her in one ear and him in the other ear.
00:31:26
Speaker
they'll have some They'll have her in one ear and then a sound effect in the other ear. It's completely split. it is And it's some of the worst audio I ever get is from Fox 8. I had to totally engineer this clip so that it was ah it was loud and then quiet and then loud and then quiet. It's like, I can do this at my house, people.
00:31:46
Speaker
They probably can't. It's not that hard. They probably can't find a sound engineer. Or they nowadays, they think they don't need one. Or they're doing all the recording and post and sending it to Fox 8, and they just don't know how to do it. That's what it seems like to me.
00:31:58
Speaker
Could be. Like, horrible. You're making me work at these things. shouldn't have to work this hard.
00:32:05
Speaker
So anyway, so the fire chief, they got outside investigative firm, which either means a, they, they're going to come back and say, well, this independent firm said there's nothing wrong here. We're going to keep them on.
00:32:16
Speaker
Or they're going to say, well, the independent firm said we should fire him. So either way, we're good. our Our butts are clean. Our butts are clean. Yeah. don't know. I think some of the, some of the quotes here from the, what is it? The Institute.
00:32:36
Speaker
The Vanguards of Cleveland, Organization of Male and Female Cleveland Firefighters of Color, says, We live under a different set of rules, from discipline to hiring to promotions and even social media.
00:32:50
Speaker
We are often held to a different standard. Too often, individuals and local media mobilize against us to create a narrative that they wish to impose on us and our community.
00:33:02
Speaker
Chief Luke is only a symptom of a larger issue we face in Cleveland. um He was suspended by Mayor Bibb.
Controversy Over Charlie Kirk Tribute
00:33:12
Speaker
So Mayor Bibb is racist?
00:33:19
Speaker
Always got to pull the race card. Yeah. Mayor Bibb, yeah, definitely. I mean, Tom, Mayor Bibb is the face of white supremacy in Cleveland.
00:33:32
Speaker
He's an Uncle Tom. They say we, like Mayor Bibb, believe this is what I want to know. What does this mean? We, like Mayor Bibb, believe that proximity builds trust.
00:33:47
Speaker
Yeah, I'll to let that sit for a second. um i Does that mean being close to somebody, the closer are to somebody, the more you trust them?
00:33:57
Speaker
When we respond to emergencies, we do not ask about someone's religion, political views, sexual orientation, ah or social media activity before putting our lives on the line as Americans, as Clevelanders, as firefighters.
00:34:12
Speaker
Our duty is to serve and protect Yeah, but what what about, what if if they get there and you're wearing a MAGA hat? Yeah, what if your house has Trump flags all over it? Yeah.
00:34:23
Speaker
Wasn't the governor or the mayor of a city in South Carolina, was it, where were all the floods happening? South Carolina, North Carolina? Yes, I think both, but yeah. She was she was telling the her team teams to skip houses with Trump signs on them Yes.
00:34:40
Speaker
And that was verifiable. There's audio, I believe, of it. Yep.
00:34:45
Speaker
So that's, you know, um and then, so we have that going on. There's investigation. Let's see what they come up with. These racist mayor bib and everything to, and and to another update, which was the next story we talked about last week.
00:35:01
Speaker
ah The other story we talked about last week was a fairview park received hundreds of emails because of their City Council President, was it? Was it City Council? Yes.
00:35:12
Speaker
you know You know, how do you expect me to read the article when you put an ad right in front of me? Thank you for Apple Reader.
00:35:21
Speaker
So Michael Kilbane apologized after saying that Charlie Kirk was not a good person. So I think his post was, a lot of good people died today. Charlie Kirk was not one of them.
00:35:34
Speaker
He also had comments afterwards that basically he was calling a Charlie Kirk a dirt bag, basically. i i don't write it's I don't have the exact quote.
00:35:46
Speaker
So they roughly, yeah two days later, they had 700 emails and 350 calls on the topic, urging Kilbane to apologize to Fairview Park residents and abandon his post immediately.
00:35:58
Speaker
So as the pressure grew, he apologized. And he said, I apologize profusely. it was bad taste. It was a horrible thing that happened to the man, and I'm sorry for his family.
00:36:09
Speaker
Nobody deserves that. Nobody, no matter what we think of each other's politics, nobody deserves to be shot. It's very sad. But the good news is he resigned anyway. So he's out.
00:36:23
Speaker
Now, maybe, i don't think this is going to happen on our next story, because tied into that was We have a similar um situation at the Cuyahoga County Council meeting last week.
00:36:39
Speaker
And so the council president, Dale Miller, announced a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk. And some people had some problems with it.
00:36:51
Speaker
Let's hear from...
00:36:55
Speaker
There we go. Yep. Oh, sorry. Channel 3 WKYC for the walkout. This is a starts off with actual the actual announcement in the meeting from, from Dale Miller um about the, yeah the Malona silence. And I, I mean, other being, other than sounding like just a meek little man, um which is, um he is, he he, I thought he handled it pretty well and seemed like he was trying to make sure both sides were happy to the point where neither side were was happy. And you'll hear why in a second.
00:37:26
Speaker
This is a sad day. Just three months ago, we had a moment of silence here for Minnesota state legislators, Melissa Horton and John Huffman, one killed, one seriously injured.
00:37:41
Speaker
Today we hold silence for them again and for media personality Charlie Kirk, murdered last week in Utah. And we send positive thoughts for an end to all political violence.
00:37:57
Speaker
but but Positive thoughts. um And then, so what what could be the reasoning for not wanting to sit for 15 seconds for a moment of silence for somebody who was killed for speaking their mind? What what could possibly be?
00:38:13
Speaker
Charlie Kirk was a racist. Yes, of course. Before the moment of silence, Vice President Yvonne Conwell asked him for a moment. right, Mr. President. Um, I do not condone acts of violence of any kind.
00:38:25
Speaker
I am a supporter of Cuyahoga County, which is in the planning stage of creating an office of crime prevention. Oh, but I will not be able to do a moment of silence for someone who actively communicated racist remarks against African-Americans.
00:38:40
Speaker
And then she walked out with applause coming from the audience. Council members Meredith Turner and Pernell Jones Jr. walked out too as the remaining seven members stayed in their seats.
00:38:52
Speaker
The moment of silence lasting only 15 seconds and then back to business. Has anybody signed in for public comment? The day after, Councilwoman Conwell doubled down on her form of protest.
00:39:04
Speaker
mean, it just goes against everything that we've been pushing at the county. oh We've just started a women's health commission. Oh, I mean, it's it was like a slap in the face to the initiatives that we're trying to work on in the county. A moment silence. I'm very saddened for um the things that occurred. But as I stated, i have free will not to listen to it and not to participate in a moment of silence.
00:39:32
Speaker
The things you were talking about is somebody being assassinated for speaking their mind, and you can't even sit there for 15 seconds. She's low IQ. Oh, she's there. Yeah. Grandstanding, virtue signal, whatever you want. it It just complete. I mean, women's rights, Tom.
00:39:48
Speaker
So why do they, why do they, keep I've heard this so many, Charlie Kirk's a racist. Do you know what, they why they say that? Why? Out of all the stuff, all the hundreds of hours of Charlie Kirk online from radio show to his change, you know, ah Prove Me Wrong, all this other stuff, all the speaking at Turning Point events year after year after year, they've got one clip.
00:40:14
Speaker
proving that he's a racist because he said at one point a year or so ago, maybe he said, if, if um like people like Michelle Obama, if we would have said people like Michelle Obama or Katanji Jackson Brown, and he named off a couple other ones where DEI hires were affirmative action hires, we will, we would have been called racist.
00:40:38
Speaker
But they did it for us. And he plays clips from her saying, i was i'm i'm part I'm here partly because of ah perativeative act affirmative action. And he he jokes around and says, we know, we can tell.
00:40:50
Speaker
and he says something like, you know, they, and here's here's the trigger. He says, oh yeah, he gave you gave a gave a position for a white person because you had to have a person of color in there. Oh my gosh.
00:41:05
Speaker
He's racist. So, you know, somebody who's racist, usually with hundreds, if not thousands of hours, I'm sure hundreds of thousands of hours of content, and you've got one clip.
00:41:18
Speaker
You've got one clip. This is crazy. so And that's what that's what they're that's what they're holding there, and that's what they're dying. That's the hill they're going to die on. Charlie Kirk's a racist. and And I'm glad they are.
00:41:28
Speaker
Please push it. Because when people go looking for it they're going to go what? That's what you got. you You really don't have to spend much more than ah few minutes of watching clips or or even debates with him to know he's not a racist and to know what else do they say? Oh, anti-gay and all that stuff.
00:41:50
Speaker
Yeah, anti-LGBTQ. Yeah, a couple clips and you can hear him like talking to him. somebody he vehemently disagrees with, like they're a person. Wow.
00:42:02
Speaker
And as as we heard from many of pundits, you can hear, oh how does that work on the other side? Let's say I went to a gay pride parade with a Trump hat on, with a Make America Great hat.
00:42:16
Speaker
How long you think I'd last? Before I had all kinds of, I mean, I should have done was pulled up that Nick Shirley guy that we remember. We pulled clips from him from the a LA riots, LA ice riots from a few months ago, a couple months ago.
00:42:32
Speaker
He's a kid, Nick Shirley. He's doing things like Tim Pool used to do going on and just talking to people. Hey, think about this? What do you think about that? Oh, yeah. he He found the Palestinians in New York, ah the pal the free Palestine people. Oh, forget forget it. Forget about that.
00:42:48
Speaker
I think it was the first time he actually thought something was going to happen. they were There's no conversation to be had. Some of the crazies. Oh, my goodness. just There was this short little black lady with her just short little chubby.
00:43:04
Speaker
I mean, she was certifiably nuts because Cause she kept lifting her shirt and trying to rub her breasts up against Nick.
00:43:15
Speaker
And it was just like, I mean, i kept coming in my St. Make asylums great again. Can we make asylums great again? Please get these people off the streets. Crazies. Speaking of crazies, speaking of crazies,
00:43:28
Speaker
ah Through all this, we as I'm looking through, i find this story from ah of an Ohio woman shocked by a message left on her Starbucks cup. And I'm going to have to get the... Whoa.
00:43:40
Speaker
Glad you couldn't hear that because I could. That was loud. ah It is a Middletown Kroger Starbucks counter. The incident occurred where she went up to get... So she had seen on social media that somebody asking Charlie Kirk what his favorite...
00:43:55
Speaker
favorite drink is from Starbucks. He's like, always see you with a Starbucks cup. What's your drink? And it's basically some kind of mint tea with two honeys. And he just drinks it because he talks a lot. So people are starting to order that at Starbucks in honor of Charlie Kirk.
00:44:11
Speaker
So she orders it.
00:44:14
Speaker
Gets to a car, it looks like from the picture I saw from her social media post, gets to a crits to her car and lifts up, there's a cup inside of a cup. Sometimes they do that, I guess, because it's really hot. And pulls it up and it says, fascist fave drink.
00:44:29
Speaker
Right on the side. People don't to Starbucks. A lot of times we'll write some, thank you, have a nice day, your name, something like that. So this is what she has on hers. Favorite, or a fascist fave drink.
00:44:41
Speaker
But the first question in my head was, Is this before or after her first sip?
00:44:50
Speaker
Did she drink any of it? Oh, I wouldn't want to, but she probably did. yeah you can't I don't know if you can lift that cup out without getting some of the liquid out first. Hmm.
00:45:02
Speaker
So that was my first, good they don't they don't tell us, unfortunately. So she posted this on social media and it went crazy. And i think ah the first, so I got a couple of clips from it because i think this is a ah This is an example of what not to do but in this kind of situation.
00:45:26
Speaker
and So she kind of went viral and the the post blew up and people started arguing naturally on the on the post and Tony got involved. and Tony. Tony.
00:45:38
Speaker
Well, Tony had some had some problems with the way they were treating this woman. And did I even get her name? Did not. doesnt Doesn't say in the story right away, but that's okay.
00:45:51
Speaker
Here's what Tony had to say. And again, this is example of what not to do people and maybe of somebody who shouldn't be on social media. But this is not where the story ends. Autumn posted a picture of the cup and her post blew up online.
00:46:04
Speaker
Thousands of views and comments from both sides of the political spectrum and the vitriol flying back and forth found its way back into the real world. This is Tony Tinscher, who got into it on Facebook with people who posted things about Autumn he did not like.
00:46:20
Speaker
She's lying. She wrote that on the cup herself. Uh, We're all racist. um just They just kept going. So this morning when when this started happening, I just said, all right, I'll come up here and see if any of these people that are threatening me is going to be here. and What would you have done if this guy had shown up?
00:46:43
Speaker
We was going to fight. The person apparently did not show up. Hey, are you listening to me? Hey, me, Jay. we We's going to fight. ah We's going to fight.
00:46:55
Speaker
I like Tony. Yes, I think me and Tony could have a beer we'd have a blast. But first thing I would say is, Tony, easy on social media. Hi, Eric. Here's a podcast I listen to called No Agenda Show. It'll keep you spun down for a while.
00:47:10
Speaker
So Kroger came out and said they fired the person. They said this is not what we, you know, they they said the right thing, what they should have said. Fired the person. Starbucks had a comment, said, no, we we actually have a policy. You can't write anything negative on the cups and stuff like that. So this is not.
00:47:26
Speaker
But Kroger didn't think that was far enough. So this is what the, this is how they closed the report. And something but this might be ah another example of an overreaction.
00:47:39
Speaker
Now, we could not find the barista who allegedly wrote on the cup. We did learn that Kroger has now hired armed guards to monitor some of its Starbucks counters. Oh, okay.
00:47:49
Speaker
So you go to Starbucks, Kroger in a Middletown Kroger's to get a coffee, and you should feel really safe now. Now they got armed guards. Come on.
00:48:02
Speaker
uh so that that was i thought that was quite amusing i literally i in in that short report i had two belly laughs i thought that was worth a clip a clip pull it was a good one yeah he's gonna fight tom he's gonna fight all right next uh wait oh i got them slightly out of order here but that's okay we can go with it uh akron police Akron police are going to have, oh, I can't, but they can't wait.
00:48:32
Speaker
They're going to have a ah review of ah their ah their use of force policy, Tom. Yeah. So Akron is going to partner with the PERF, PERF, for a review of their use of force, ah aiming ah for the full study to be, wreck out for full list of recommendations by March of 2026. Now, the important part is,
00:48:57
Speaker
They are spending over $300,000 to do a study on how evil the police are. I'm in the wrong business.
00:49:08
Speaker
Instead of, i don't know, maybe it's taking $300,000 and educating the police and training the police and giving them the skills they need to de-escalate situations instead of just...
00:49:23
Speaker
crapping all over them and telling them how shitty they are well crapping and oops yeah i did that but i so and they're gonna take six months to do it yay
00:49:39
Speaker
ah A complete and total waste of money. i i get you you want to review these things every once a while, but with a department that i mean that's probably starved of funds, doesn't have enough people on it, and they're going to go, oh, you know, we're going to review how crappy you actually are. The police union obviously is against that saying, yeah, no, exactly what I basically says. No, ah we we could probably use this money to hire more cops.
00:50:03
Speaker
um I think overworked cops is probably ah big reason why maybe things get out of hand. It could be, you know.
00:50:12
Speaker
Yeah, so just keep up the good fight there, Akron, and make sure you... Waste a little more money. Anyway, thanks for listening. We want you to subscribe and share the podcast. We really appreciate your time.
00:50:25
Speaker
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00:50:43
Speaker
Anyway, next on the agenda is, because I went way out of order, is Lake County is now on board with helping ICE.
Immigration Law Enforcement Concerns
00:50:50
Speaker
And then we have another little update, too, with the Geauga County. It's now official, but let's start with kind the Lake County Sheriff's Office has agreed to partner with ICE on basically helping out a little bit. They're not goingnna go on they're not going to actively go out looking for
00:51:12
Speaker
illegals but they are going to start asking people if they have legal status or at traffic stops and and different interactions. And the police have interact or sheriff's departments as interactions with people. they're going to start looking and checking. And if you don't have the proper legal status, they're going to hold you for ice.
00:51:33
Speaker
Yeah. They, um, is the breakdown here. Yeah. They, uh, They signed an agreement with the federal ICE thing, whatever you call it. Department of Homeland Security, I'm assuming, right?
00:51:45
Speaker
Yes, ICE and Homeland Security. I'm pretty sure they're all, yeah, ICE is under Homeland Security, I believe. There are a couple of different type of agreements. These you can sign. One is just to house them in your ah jails.
00:51:58
Speaker
ah for the time being. and the other is called the Task Force Model, which is what I'm thinking they signed. Yes, they signed that. I think Geogas is a little bit more in-depth.
00:52:10
Speaker
Geogas is actually going to be housing some of these. Right, but I think they do that in... I think task force model also includes housing them in their jails. I think.
00:52:20
Speaker
believe it says they will keep, they will keep somebody there 48 hours until ice arrives. I think that's as long as they can keep them there. Okay. I think Jaga is more, we'll pull up that article, but think Jaga is a little more in depth. They're actually, oops, they're actually going to house them and get paid for said housing.
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah. But not Lake County just yet. But of course, oh, they're going to cry about it. So what are they crying about? Let's hear a little bit from ah um Channel 5, Lake County and Ice.
00:52:58
Speaker
Immigration attorney Stacey Cozart-Martin worries that local agencies don't have the expertise to properly enforce federal immigration rules. There's going to be a lot of people being stopped and asked about their immigration status because of the way that they look or the way that they sound.
00:53:14
Speaker
and potentially being detained when they should not be. And some in the diverse communities of Lake County were the enforcement could erode public trust. Painesville specifically has a lot of different races and ethnicities in here. just painting And like I said, it's going to break up a lot of families.
00:53:32
Speaker
sharply and Yeah, it's going to break up a lot of families. The funniest part of that was we have a lot of different races here and then the sirens go off. Yeah, I
00:53:42
Speaker
Yes, yes. So, yeah, yeah there there's it's probably going to break up families of, yeah, families who have illegal immigrants as parents, illegal aliens as parents. Excuse me, don't want to give them any any more credit for being actual immigrants.
00:53:55
Speaker
They are legal immigrants. i think I think, yes, if your mom or dad is illegally, yeah, unfortunately, because of the choices of your parents, your family is going to be kind of messed up for a minute.
00:54:07
Speaker
Yeah. What else have we got i think you got a few more. And Bruno says his deputies will receive special ICE-led training before the programs begin. And he pledges to protect the rights of everyone. It's our job to ensure that our deputies, our corrections officers, follow the Constitution.
00:54:29
Speaker
We give the civil rights to individuals the civil rights that everyone is due. And I believe we do that as a sheriff's office. In Lake County, Catherine Ross, News 5.
00:54:40
Speaker
So they're going to go train them and um they're just going to be asking questions. And if you can't answer but their ability, they're going to try to check out a little bit more. um I think partly the story for me is ah they haven't, they don't already do this.
00:54:57
Speaker
So if, I'm confused. if If you get pulled over or get interaction with a cop and they ask for your your license, you're legally bound to, or for ID, you're legally bound to give it to them when a police officer asks.
00:55:09
Speaker
If they don't have an ID, then what's the next step, right? so if they if they're an illegal, how they shouldn't have an ID, correct? Correct.
00:55:24
Speaker
Wouldn't you think? I don't know. Can you get an ID? I think you can get an ID without being I think you might be able to, and especially in sanctuary city like Cleveland or Cuyahoga County. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not sure what Lake County is like or Geauga.
00:55:38
Speaker
I don't know. It's questions. Questions I have to ask. Because I don't know. I get it. and I don't want to pay our papers, please. But it's we're kind of already there considering when the officer asks for your ID, you you have to give it to him by law.
00:55:53
Speaker
And if you can't provide that, then I guess you've got issues. Now, if if if the ID looks suspect and you're ah somebody of, let's Spanish descent or South American descent or Venezuelan or whatever country, Polish descent, and maybe you're probably going to have a little extra questions to be asked. no i don't um don't see why this is so shocking to Well, here's one thing.
00:56:20
Speaker
You are not legally bound to show your ID in Ohio unless you're driving a vehicle or there's reasonable suspicion. i don't know what that exactly means. So basically you're bound to give them your license when they ask.
00:56:36
Speaker
I know there's that reasonable suspicion, but all the offer has to say is I had reasonable suspicion and probably pull up a half a dozen reasons or a dozen reasons they already know about. Or they already have practice doing, you know I mean? there's That's very subjective. Yeah, I mean, they can't go up to somebody and just ask them for ID.
00:56:57
Speaker
like look like Look like he had a gun on him, so I asked for his ID. Oh. I mean, there now it's up to the cop to it if gets to, if it gets in the court to prove that or to explain why he thought that. i get there's But it's similar to you should never, but officer asks for your to search your car, your vehicle ah at a stop.
00:57:19
Speaker
The answer should be no. then it's up to the cop to either come up with or figure out probable cause. And then in court, he has to prove probable cause or nothing in that car is valid for the search.
00:57:32
Speaker
But I mean, so easy. It's so easy for the cop to come up with probable cause. Yeah, and it depends on how corrupt the the judges and prosecutors are.
00:57:45
Speaker
Well, they're definitely more friends with the cops than they are with defendants, so there's that. but ah That used to be the case. Yeah, yeah. yeah So I don't know... Again, duh. Like they shouldn't, they've been doing this, shouldn't do this all the time? and but At some level, when you get involved with the police, shouldn't be checking if there's any suspicion of you not having to write papers as a, as a, an immigrant?
00:58:09
Speaker
Shouldn't be checking that anyway? So that's kind of where went with it. I don't and know. I, I, I think it should just be a normal thing.
00:58:20
Speaker
And there's a fine line there. I'm all for it, but I'm just saying. there's Oh, yeah, definitely. I don't want to stop him, but I mean, he's like, you get arrested for a fight and aren't they just, isn't that just automatic? I guess if you have a legal driver's license, maybe not because you went through all that, but I don't know. It seems like something they should be just checking anyway, just to make sure, especially in a border state like Ohio.
00:58:42
Speaker
yeah yeah maybe people don't consider us a border state but we surely are surely are um all right so that covers that one that we went out of order a county oh yeah geaga so we'll touch on geaga real quick just a quick update geaga has formerly and love how they call it a reaffirming a secret ice jail contract so secret that we're reading about it in a newspaper Well, we we we talked about this a ah few months ago, I think in the spring yeah of this of this year. And because the ACLU was suing Geauga?
00:59:19
Speaker
Geauga County, yep. Yeah, because they they wanted to see the contract that they were signing. And Geauga was saying, no, you have to ask ICE for that. Yep. And now we're here, which I guess they now.
00:59:34
Speaker
ah official Officially signed it or something. Yeah. It officially got approved on September 9th. Ah, that's okay. That's right. say Yeah. They're official. And they're going to be doing the, they were, Tinnies were allowed to be in Jagger jail, Geauga's jail. And I think they're, yeah. Jagger County gets paid $70 per day for each inmate that was held there.
00:59:58
Speaker
Right. And the ACLU now is suing the but sheriff. It's weird.
01:00:08
Speaker
This is a weird story. Because David Yost said a sheriff has no authority to sign contracts. They have to be signed by county commissioners. So this is all sorts of a mess.
01:00:24
Speaker
They're basically doing the same thing that we just talked about with Lake, except they're getting paid to put them in their jail. So it doesn't seem like there's a 48-hour... No, they're actually going to be a detention facility yeah for for at least short-term.
01:00:39
Speaker
Nothing too crazy, but... I'm assuming they have more room. Sorry. Yeah. Um, yes. So they also, they were an estimated a hundred beds available at the County jail, right?
01:00:50
Speaker
The other County jail. So they have, they have the room and they, they need, they want the revenue they need the revenue, whatever you want to call it. So it's a win-win for them.
01:01:02
Speaker
Uh, just making sure. yeah It says, uh,
01:01:08
Speaker
They still haven't, so they haven't even asked ICE for it. It doesn't seem like they, they've got some in for information. Obviously, we know they're getting paid $70 per day, so it's not like they're they're completely in the dark. I i think transparency is probably better than not.
01:01:24
Speaker
Yeah, but when, I mean, They're just claiming that oh you you have to ask ICE for that contract. They have no authority to show contracts to somebody else. Yeah. could It could easily be something in the contract stating that you can't raise the details of the contract. It's probably pretty.
01:01:42
Speaker
Pretty standard for federal, I would think.
01:01:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Again, so ACLU should be asking ICE. I'm assuming, thinking they're probably not going to get much from ICE, but. i mean i mean I'd be interested to know what what the contract says. I think, why not?
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, go through the proper channels because if if Jaga County bound by the contract not to say anything, then I guess they shouldn't. Maybe the contract shouldn't be that way, first of all, but...
01:02:11
Speaker
And anybody like that knows about this, that you know local local sheriff departments are helping ICE, this kind of stuff has been going on since 2009. It seems to, um they just keep renewing the contracts with different, ah you know, changing changing the contract up. Like this time, i I think they're just adding the, housing the federal inmates. Yeah.
01:02:38
Speaker
But this is from 2009. So that that's ah that's Obama days. Right. The deporter in chief, they used to call him. He he still he holds the record for ah most deportations. i actually know somebody who is we don't agree on a lot.
01:02:55
Speaker
And he keeps throwing it up like, aha, he's never going to get to the levels that Obama got to. and He's never going to get to the levels Obama got to. you Because they're not coming across the border. Well, I said, well, maybe maybe because um Obama had all the states helping him and half the states are against this help.
01:03:15
Speaker
I go, why would they be? That was always my point, throwback. I'm like, yeah, all of a sudden now they're they're anti-deportation. I go, what changed?
01:03:25
Speaker
And they and usually don't. Well, ah you rid the stormtroopers. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, he was the deporter in chief. So and I don't understand why everybody is all of a sudden in uproar about it. Maybe because of how it's being done, because California is not offering them up like they did for Obama.
01:03:43
Speaker
And he has, we have to go get them. Right. That's why. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe that's almost like, don't know. intentional i think a lot of it was also uh crossing the border and shipping them right out that's true yeah they were just sending them right back from instead of and then you know instead of during but biden they were shipping them into the country obama was shipping him right back out from the border yeah there's that in the number of people coming across the border during the the you know thinking they'll get away with it with which trump there's like this this administer this this time around there's hardly anything coming across the border
01:04:20
Speaker
So zero, virtually zero. Yeah. So we have to actually go find and arrest them, ship them out. It's just a different dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. When you got four or 5,000 people a day coming across the border, it's easier to rack up those numbers little quicker.
01:04:35
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. So we got other counties. and Like you said, yeah, this is nothing new. They've been doing this. It's just, it's just TDS. It's just TDS. It's just Trump derangement syndrome. It's, it's,
01:04:49
Speaker
ah I'm so sick of it. but it's like It's like his first time around with the cages. um It's like, who built those cages? The pictures they were posting of ah of Trump's cages. They were the Obama administration pictures. All kinds of media organizations got busted on that one. yeah yeah That was ah was ridiculous.
01:05:08
Speaker
Yeah, all kinds of media got busted, but nobody nobody realizes that. It's not like it that's the problem. You're always like fighting the media and media is not going to report themselves.
01:05:19
Speaker
No, that's kind like, kind of like expecting politicians to police themselves, right? Similar. And that's why it's important to have shows like ours. Yes.
01:05:31
Speaker
Share the show. CrookedRiverCast.com. All right. Enough of that one, I guess. Oops. Misfire. Check that one off. Yes. Now we're back in the order. So I have a question.
01:05:45
Speaker
What does transformative art and a new county of jail have in common, Tom?
01:05:53
Speaker
ah You tell me. I don't know. COVID money. Yeah. COVID money. So here I pull this story that a transformative arts fund project turns a vacant house, vacant Cleveland house into food for art.
01:06:07
Speaker
a You got to explain that better. Yes. So a long, it says here, a long vacant and condemned house along the Cuyahoga land bank on Cleveland's east side has been chipped into pieces and fed to mushrooms as food for an art installation and possibly a future urban revival.
01:06:28
Speaker
Or they could have just taken that house and built another one. Well, no, Tom. I mean, they saved they they only spent on this project. only For mushrooms.
01:06:42
Speaker
For mushrooms. um but So it's the $364,000 project funded through Cleveland's $3 million dollar transformative art funds fund.
01:06:53
Speaker
And where does that come from? Yes, has added ah new energy to research by Cleveland architects. It is from the and american but yeah American Rescue Plan Act, the ARPA, which was approved during COVID-19 pandemic.
01:07:12
Speaker
So your tax dollars are going to feeding mushrooms. So here's a plan that was sold to the American public as help for cities.
01:07:23
Speaker
believe they were kind of pushing it as like, well, because revenues down, tax revenues down, you know, things, the cities took a hit. We need to infuse some cash into the cities and counties to help them to help bolster them. And so they don't get into trouble.
01:07:37
Speaker
Pretty sure that's kind of how they sold it. Do you remember that sound about right? the So Cleveland received $512 million dollars from the paul
01:07:51
Speaker
The county received ah boatload of money too, too which don't even know if my article has how much money that they got from, does not.
01:08:02
Speaker
But what I remember is the county had their own slush fund and they took $53 million dollars out of that slush fund to buy the land where the current Colorado County jail and courthouse is going to be going.
01:08:16
Speaker
They're breaking ground soon or just broke ground, whatever. And it brings up, brings to my attention how much more money do they have? And what, who's, who gets to police this?
01:08:28
Speaker
This is there for, to help the cities in case they got in trouble. And now they're using it as their personal fricking slush fund to get all these projects done. So the Caga County bought a plot of land but with COVID money for a new courthouse in jail before they even got it approved for a new courthouse in jail.
01:08:48
Speaker
Like, hey, we already bought the land, so now you have to approve it.
01:08:53
Speaker
This is, to me... Well, I would, for this transformative arts fund, the person that oversees it is Rhonda Brown. I would love to see her house. oh good point.
01:09:16
Speaker
I mean, as as we hear over and over again how horrible the schools are, i mean, even though the city of Cleveland has like all new schools, how horrible and underfunded their schools are, even though they've got all brand new schools.
01:09:28
Speaker
And the city is sitting on $500 million dollars or thereabouts. maybe they Maybe they spent a lot of it on houses for Ms. Brown. But where where's the rest of the money? How much more do you have?
01:09:41
Speaker
How come nobody's asking? nobody Does anybody care? Does anybody give a crap that, hey, the city sitting on a boatload of cash and and claiming poor? No, apparently not.
01:09:53
Speaker
Apparently nobody really cares. It doesn't appear to anybody that or ah occur to anybody that this is this may be a problem. But we're going to feed mushrooms with rubble. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, they're Trump's evil because he's cutting money to food banks.
01:10:09
Speaker
People are going to starve, Tom. But the mushrooms, mushrooms have food. They're fine. They're fat and happy. Listen to them. They're fat and happy. Can you hear them? I can't.
01:10:20
Speaker
Nope. Nope. Can't hear them. Mushrooms don't make sounds. Only when I stir fry them. Saute them. What do you want to say about that?
01:10:31
Speaker
What you want say about that? People keep an eye on your money because they are just wasting it on shrooms. This is on 9413 Sophia Avenue, if you want to go take a look at it.
01:10:46
Speaker
Yeah. It's just a pile of rubble with mushrooms growing on it. No, Tom, they they they tore the house down to put two Connex boxes on it, because that looks better. Yeah, or they could have tore the house down and built another house, considering there's a housing shortage.
01:11:02
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, um we're not going to start making sense common sense now. it's fact This architect... and I'm not going to blame an artist because they're retarded, but this architect should be ashamed of himself.
01:11:18
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, the artist is going to, yeah, they're going to be like, oh, I got some money to do with this project? Fine, it's the city that got it. What the heck? Yeah, but same with this this adult yeah male, what's his, I can't find his name.
01:11:33
Speaker
Gosh darn it. The architect? Yeah. like well, what's he doing here? um cashing in. Yeah. Free money. It's pretty.
01:11:44
Speaker
ah ah ah Chris Marr. Marr. Marr. yeah Bill Marr. Chris Marr's brother. No, um no affiliation. I have no idea. So he's he's taking fungi can be used to turn demolition debris into clean, lightweight, and strong building material.
01:12:02
Speaker
what I don't know. Freaking insane. We transform your house into a sculpture, Tom. they're are we transforming or we are transforming a house into a sculpture. Or you could transform a house into another house. I mean,
01:12:16
Speaker
yeah i mean I mean, you know, give give somebody a place to live grow mushrooms. Mushrooms. What kind of mushrooms are you growing, actually? This makes me think. Can I go get dinner?
01:12:27
Speaker
Are you eating the mushrooms? And they are they are they giving you this weird feeling and you're seeing spots and stuff all over it? No. Are you sure growing the right mushrooms? Those don't have psilocybin. Oh, shoot.
01:12:39
Speaker
They're no fun. mean, if you really want to make some money, but no. um They can turn a vacant house into a sculpture. We can fully recycle a house into mushrooms.
01:12:51
Speaker
This is the next step we want to go. And I believe, is that the next step we want to go to? And I believe it is. after that we we ah we After that, can we sculpt scale that up to the level that could do hundreds of houses?
01:13:08
Speaker
So there...
01:13:11
Speaker
Yes, when we have we don't have enough houses for everybody and prices have skyrocketed. Let's tear more down for the mushrooms. Holy cow. It's freaking crazy. Yep. I wonder how much the county got from, I can't remember. I'm so mad at I didn't pull that, but.
01:13:30
Speaker
I want to know how much Rhonda Brown got. Oh, yes. I want to see what kind house she lives in. Somebody look it up and shoot us a picture of her house. I mean, not like actually go there. Don't do that. But just tell us where where does she live?
01:13:44
Speaker
but tre I mean, you could do Google Street View. Street View. Yes. Street View. Perfect. That's what saying. ah
01:13:53
Speaker
What does this say here? Oh, yes. So.
01:13:58
Speaker
I guess that's it. That's all I got. I was just going through to see if I can find where Cogga County, how much money they got, but it doesn't matter. They're wasting they got more, more to give. So let's, let's put it into the schools. How's that?
01:14:10
Speaker
Everybody let's, let's send, send your, send your emails to quick and river cast at gmail.com and tell us what they should do with all this money. right, on to our next, actually final story for but the list is... Wait, one more.
01:14:27
Speaker
One more? Yeah, one more. Yeah, don't No, we have the... Were you going to say something about the campus? Campus? The Cuyahoga County yeah ah Jail.
01:14:38
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, just that they're using the... It was tied in for me because it started with COVID money. Oh, oh, gotcha. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's just an update that it's going. It's and now up to $900 million dollars right project. it It will be over a billion by the time they're done.
01:14:58
Speaker
It's just the way these things go, I think. That's my opinion. And i mean, it's needed. Right. It's needed. And I think, um I think they're going to move I think they're moving the courthouse and everything there. So I was kind of complaining that they are, they're gonna have to transport people from downtown, but I'm pretty sure the courthouse is also going to be there.
01:15:20
Speaker
It's a, it's a blighted area of, of that, of that area that, that that's Tita minute 480 exit over there. So that's nice. It's it's a plot of land that's been sent empty for about 10 years. And the from what I understand, the conditions at the county jail are horrible.
01:15:35
Speaker
So this was is welcomed improvement. I just don't like the way they're doing it, I guess. Right.
Plans for New Correctional Facility
01:15:44
Speaker
There's that. ah Yeah, so 72-acre property over there. And I'll just go into it real quick. ah Thinking of finishing in 2029. Pretty big complex, too.
01:15:57
Speaker
Pretty big complex. So should be improvement for... Anybody who goes to the county jail, I guess. Looking forward to never seeing that.
Shooting Incident Involving Off-Duty Deputy
01:16:09
Speaker
Next, our final story on the list before we get to our a good things segment is, I mean, maybe this is, maybe we should have included this in the good stuff segment, but Seems as though a Calgary County Sheriff's Department off-duty special deputy, which is the key here, special deputy, got himself in a little bit of hot water. So Sheriff's County says one of its special deputies fired his gun after a group of individuals he claimed
01:16:41
Speaker
tipped over the porta potty that he was in when he was off duty on Monday. was about a week ago. So he's in the porta potty in the block of 1600 and East 133rd Street around 1.30 PM.
01:16:57
Speaker
And says the officers say ah another individual or group of individuals individualss came up to the porta potty and tipped it to the ground while he was inside. Now, it it is funny until he gets out and starts shooting.
01:17:14
Speaker
So after exiting the sideways porta potty, probably a little bluer than he was before, the deputy says he encountered multiple individuals and he claims saw one of them pull a gun from his waistband.
01:17:26
Speaker
ah This caused the deputy to fire his own weapon, at which time the group scattered and fled the scene. Now, county officials have not specifically said the deputy shot one of the suspects.
01:17:38
Speaker
They did confirm a juvenile arrived at University Hospitals of Cleveland Medical Center not long after the incident with a gunshot wound, ah believed to be from the incident, actually.
01:17:49
Speaker
So... Interestingly, they have not released the name of the special deputy, but it says, um authorities have clarified that the deputy is not directly employed by the county, by the Coggle County Sheriff's Department, but rather he has been given the rank of special deputy, in quotes, and maintains his police commission through the Sheriff's Department.
01:18:14
Speaker
Ohio has a long allowed county sheriffs to appoint special deputies who volunteer their time and equipment to assist with security and enforcement around their communities.
01:18:26
Speaker
So they do have to go undergo police training and meet strict guidelines, but they have not released his name yet, which I thought was odd. Like, why wouldn't they? He was off duty. He wasn't under the capacity. He wasn't working.
01:18:38
Speaker
He wasn't working for the county at the time. Oh, I didn't catch that. Yep. Yeah, he was not on duty. He was, ah but says, it said was
01:18:51
Speaker
Performing other duties, not to the and sheriff's department somewhere. He's being a security guard or something. Yeah. So
01:19:02
Speaker
I mean, sounds like some kids started wanting to have some fun and ah yeah, they found out probably, probably not the person you want to tip over as a guy with a gun. would imagine, but they're investing ongoing investigation.
01:19:15
Speaker
Again, it's funny until he gets out shooting. be interested to see what if they've again easy easy for the the the special deputy to say he saw a gun justify his shooting or was he just really mad and don't know i've never quite heard it i've always gone in those going yeah it'd go on a construction site it would not surprise i don't think they could do it get away with it anymore but in the past it wasn't a common thing
01:19:47
Speaker
Oh, it's a prank type of thing? Yeah, it's a hazing, a prank kind of stuff. i don't They don't tolerate it my as much on job sites anymore. know I don't think you can anymore because you'll get sued. Yeah, they're boring now. They don't let you do cat calls or anything anymore. It's just, geez. Safety first. done Tie off on the roof.
01:20:07
Speaker
So, um but yeah, I think the safety trainings I've been on at job sites have been, ah I think most half of them are about hazing and making fun of people not to do it. um And a couple of them, brought up port-a-potty tipping too.
01:20:23
Speaker
ah And when if you're a special deputy or cop, maybe you need a partner to keep and ah a watch when you go into port-a-potty.
01:20:31
Speaker
I thought that was amusing.
Seasonal Activities in Ohio
01:20:33
Speaker
And on our favorite segment for the show. We bring good things to life.
01:20:44
Speaker
It's picking season. what I got. It's picking season. Picking season. Picking season. Go pick your, your pumpkins. Pumpkin patches. We'll throw that this in the, in the show notes.
01:20:57
Speaker
All the favorite spots to get pumpkins. And, and some of them are the same spots you can get apples too because it's apple picking season probably towards the end of apple picking season think we're maybe in the middle towards the end of it but there's still a couple of um couple of species of apples that uh that are ah about to ripen in the next week or two and there is a we'll throw the article up uh the apple picking schedule and a couple of i mean, there's farms all over, depending on where you're at. Central Ohio, there's half a dozen in each place.
01:21:32
Speaker
Northeast Ohio, there's at least 10, 15. Patterson's Farm is you know is always the hot one. Apple Hill Orchards, Mapleside Farns in Brunswick.
01:21:45
Speaker
Northwest Ohio, you got halt you know Lakeside or Bergman Orchards. J&M Fruit Farms, on and so forth. There's a ton of them.
01:21:55
Speaker
I was actually shocked at how many there are. Take your family out on nice Sunday and go pick some apples. And we got a, uh, got a lot of apple farms, apple orchards in the area. I was like, there's probably 50 of them in this list. So we'll put that up in the show notes at crooked river cast.com along with where to go pick your pumpkins because it's pumpkin season.
01:22:17
Speaker
ah get your carver, your perfect carved pumpkin ready for Halloween. Cause that's coming up pretty soon.
Fishing Opportunities and Anecdotes
01:22:22
Speaker
and The last one on our good stuff list list is muskies are in stock, I guess.
01:22:31
Speaker
and And nine Ohio lakes. I am not a fisherman. By any means. I saved this article just because I've been wanting to get back into fishing. Yeah. and And it's just hard to find time.
01:22:43
Speaker
But... I didn't, I never knew muskies, I didn't know they were, but i always heard people going to Canada or going to Pennsylvania, New York for muskie fishing. I didn't hear much about Ohio muskie fishing.
01:22:59
Speaker
But they' they're stocking 10 lakes here in 2020. twenty Oh, the top 10 lakes in 2024 were Mahoning River, west brink a West Branch Reservoir, Leesville Lake, Alum Creek Lake, Piedmont Lake, Palma Tuming Lake, Caesar Creek Lake, CJ Brown Reservoir, Salt Lake,
01:23:23
Speaker
You know, the Sasquatch needs something to eat. Yes. Clear Fork Reservoir. And they're um are stocking a bunch of lakes this fall. It's really nothing about anglers. or It's really just about the Sasquatch.
01:23:36
Speaker
Yeah. And gosh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't realize. I'm just looking at that. What was the record here in Ohio for muskie? 55 pounds, 55.1 pounds and 50 inches long. So it's a hell of In Piedmont Lake in 1972.
01:23:53
Speaker
Yeah.
01:23:56
Speaker
that's That's cool. So if yeah if you're into fishing, this is good news. They're stocking a bunch of lakes with muskie and go out go out there and find yourself a trophy. The largest in 2024 was 53-inch trophy from Alum Creek Lake.
01:24:11
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, 10 waters, top 10 waters. got the list here. Check it out if you're a fisherman. um i mean'm I'm saying if you're you're a fisherman, you probably already know. Probably you've been fishing. but Well, I don't know. Not everybody goes to for muskie fishing. So maybe it's like a new thing you can try.
01:24:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. take I've never, have you ever had a, have you ever eaten a muskie? I don't know. I don't know anything about muskie. I know they're large. They're fun to catch. I don't know how good of an eaten fish they are. i mean, I think most people that want eating fish here in Northeast Ohio go for a walleye. Yeah.
01:24:48
Speaker
Yep. But muskie, I don't know too much about muskie. I think, I think they're like pike, aren't they? Yeah, I have no clue. and Nothing to go off of that. No, fishing is not my, ah anything I've ever done, except except the only time, speaking of salt fork, and the only time I've actually fished was at salt fork when I was, don't know, like 12. Yeah.
01:25:10
Speaker
well and We used old bologna that had been sitting in the sun for a couple hours as bait, and we couldn't stop pulling in a bluegill. I mean, tiny little ones.
01:25:21
Speaker
ah thought I thought it was the greatest fisherman ever. it's It's fun. It is fun. It's just fun when you're catching them. Once I ah and think it was after about 20, 21 years old where here you got a little bit more responsibilities. I just didn't have the time to go fishing.
01:25:39
Speaker
You need hours and hours to actually do it. Yeah, you need a day. and I mean, I don't know. I could think of other things to do, but people love it. So, hey, go out there and catch yourself a big big old muskie.
01:25:52
Speaker
Yeah, like read stories for the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, ah as a joke, but yeah, it's actually lot of, lot of times that's what it ends up being. I throw a line in bring your laptop and just read the stories to prep for the show. All right. Yeah.
01:26:07
Speaker
Yeah. you You see, look at that. They get nice, peace and quiet. Nobody bothering you. Cause you do have your phones. Hey, anyway, totally totally miss all the hits on your, on your bait, your line. Yes.
01:26:19
Speaker
as you're a rage, or rage posting on an X. Yeah. Drinking beer all day. dr Well, yeah. And then, is all that's the good part is three barrel day so on that happy note go fishing we'll get some musky and tell us how they taste if you've ever eaten them ah he you can send us that feedback at crookedrivercast at gmail.com or go to our website crookedrivercast.com to to share the show tell everybody where we're at so give us your review on apple podcast wherever you listen to it and again really thank you for listening
01:27:01
Speaker
We really appreciate it. And we will ah we talk to you next week. Peace.