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170. Living a Lie? How to Finally Step Into Who You Really Are
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Are you ready to step into your authentic self and live your truth?
In this powerful episode of the Spiritual Fitness Podcast, Eric Bigger sits down with futurist and writer Aubrey Morgan Yee to explore what it really means to embody who you are—beyond fear, conditioning, and expectation.
Together, they unpack Indigenous wisdom, nature’s guidance, and grounding practices like breathwork and daily rituals to help you reconnect with your soul’s path.
If you're seeking alignment, clarity, and a deeper sense of purpose, this conversation is your invitation to come home to yourself.
Episode highlights:
- Live Authentically: Let go of who the world told you to be and connect with your true self.
- Learn from Nature: Use nature’s wisdom to feel more connected and support healing.
- Build Spiritual Strength: Daily rituals like breathwork and prayer can ground and center you.
- Tap Into Feminine Power: Embracing feminine energy helps create more balanced and conscious lives.
- Follow Your Intuition: Trust the quiet inner voice that leads you toward a more aligned life.
About The Guest:
Aubrey Morgan Yee is a mythopoetic futurist, author, and facilitator devoted to birthing life-affirming futures through love, remembrance, and sacred action. With a Ph.D. in Alternative Futures and Indigenous Politics, Aubrey weaves systems thinking, spiritual ecology, and Earth wisdom into every space she holds – from global culture labs to moonlit retreats.
As the founder of Our Beloved Futures, steward of Hokuao Farm & Temple, and a mother of two, Aubrey brings grounded vision, poetic insight, and deep presence to all that she offers. She works with seekers, artists, and world builders to awaken possibility and walk with integrity in this era of transformation, known by many as the Great Turning.
Her upcoming book, Our Beloved Futures, is a call to reimagine what it means to be fully human, to face and metabolize the toxic systems of modernity and a luminous guide for those longing to walk a path of peace in service to collective liberation of all beings.
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Introduction to Spiritual Fitness Podcast
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Welcome to the Spiritual Fitness Podcast. I'm your host, Eric Bigger. And each week, we will explore powerful practices, inspiring stories, and expert insights to guide you on your path to holistic health.
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By blending spirituality and physical wellness, we support you in strengthening your body and soul. Whether you're a seasoned spiritual seeker or just beginning your journey, the Spiritual Fitness Podcast is here to help you unlock your inner potential and live your most vibrant, purposeful life.
Meet Arby Morgan Yee: Futurist and Advocate
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It's miracle season.
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Spiritual Fitness, Spiritual Fitness Podcast. I'm your host, Ari Bigger. And we're back again with another episode. And I'm excited because we have a really deep transformational conversation.
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And I have my guest today is Arby Morgan Yee. She's a futurist. She's a writer. She's an author. She has a book coming out. And she's a mother, ah wife.
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She's all the things. But she's here to transform the collective into the embodiment of their truth, their authenticity through transformation and transparency.
Living in Non-duality: Embracing Peace and Compassion
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Arbery, welcome to Spiritual Fitness Podcast. How are you? one excellent, Eric. Thank you so much for having me. It's really exciting to be here and to meet you. And I love your picture in the background of Big Dream.
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Really, so much of my work focuses on like dream big, remember that you're a man, co-dream with the earth, all of that. So yeah, I'm excited to see what we want to, what wants to emerge through us. Yes. So before we get started, I want to read a quote that I came across on your social media. And by the way, you're in Fiji. It looks beautiful there.
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Looks great. So the quote goes, liz it live as if the whole world is at peace. Pray as if the whole world is burning. Love like you might die tomorrow. dream like your imagination builds worlds.
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Can you elaborate on that energetic, ah beautiful poetry? Thank you. I'm so glad you brought that forth. A lot of the things I share in my writing come through in morning practice and morning contemplation like this one did. um And it really came from this deep understanding that, you know, we can't live in fear and yet also are in a world that's falling apart. So those two things can be true. And we're in this moment where we have to really hold paradox and non-duality
Radical Acceptance: Embracing True Self
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and not it's not black and white. It's like a whole mixture of gray and we have to navigate in that really kind of tender, nuanced space.
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So this idea of, you know, live as if the world is at peace, you know, and and prayer teaches us or like contemplation teaches us, meditation teaches us that when we hold the vibration and the feeling state that we want to experience, we start to bring that into form. So that's where like, you know, feeling that feeling state is really important not to live in fear, but to live as if the world is exactly how you wish it to be. And then pray that it's burning because you need to like actually hold the care and the forgiveness and the ability to see and sort of like hold those who are suffering. because Not everyone is privileged to sit in a place of relative peace and have the ability to kind of center and ground and do the work that you you and I are both committed to. And then the other pieces are just, you know, about this, like really leaning into the moment and celebrating the fact that we're alive. But, you know, being able to hold all of those complexities and the nuance and the paradox at one was really the wisdom that was pouring forth of that. So thank you for noticing.
Education's Impact on Authenticity
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That is beautiful.
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Because when I think about those words, pray as the world is burning, it makes me think of the dark night of the soul. that I witnessed in 2023, living in l LA 15 years, been in the entertainment industry and realizing that that stuff is not real.
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But I made it real based on my creation, my assumption, my intention and my belief system. But in my process of burning the world that I thought was everything, I realized I was forgetting everything that was the world that was my true self.
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I was afraid to embrace my authentic self because I didn't build a relationship or rapport because I didn't understand it. Why do you think us as a race and a collective, we are one, afraid of fear and two, afraid to be our most authentic self? Wow, beautiful question. And there's so many layers. What's feeling called forth?
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And I think it's because I've had this experience with my own children. I think DART's in education system, actually. It's particularly I'm referring to like Western education systems in America. where we actually don't allow space for children to be their authentic selves. We sort of like align, especially in the public school system I'm speaking to particularly. We align children on one, you know, sort of way of learning, regurgitating information, sort of from the very beginning, not tuning into what it is that you're here to do, but aligning to like a shared narrative that teaches very particular things. And so actually kind of lose connection to that authentic self pretty early, unless we have someone in their lives.
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that allows us to explore what it is that we really care about, what brings us joy and passion, and the ability to kind of be courageous enough to be different, you know, because our differences are our strength, right? And I think the entertainment industry is another example of that. We sort of have these shared narratives that are regurgitated over and over, and you see it when you're inside that world, that it's it's not a lot of original thought often. It's very kind of like, you know, playing to marketing, playing to advertising, trying to create a narrative of what normal is. We're realizing, like, normal, like, what is that? We've all made this up anyway. And our diversity is our strength.
Overcoming Fear and Ego: A Personal Journey
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So there's a lack of practice in being authentic and sort of a shielding and a masking that starts to happen from a very early age.
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And some shame around like who I am really, because it might be seen as weird or not quote unquote normal, because we don't have spaces to explore that in safety often. You know, some people do and some people are able to be like beacons of light in that way. And when you meet an authentic person, it's like a ray of sunshine. Like you can just feel bones, right? When you're, oh my gosh, I want that, but I don't quite know how to get it.
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And so there's a lot of inner work for many of us to be done around the shame, sort of the feeling of hiding. i did that for many years, lots of hiding, dark night of the soul in 2020 for myself. And it was all about like not being comfortable enough in my own skin to be proud and clear and have the like sense of who I am, what even know who that was.
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Because
Indigenous Politics and New Leadership
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of so many years of kind of hiding it over and and covering it up out of fear. Yeah. And and fear is driving all the energies, the intentions behind who we are, who we think we should be. And it was interesting because when I came out of that space, a lot of fear came up with understanding that I created this life.
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I created this person. And prior to that, all I had was the ego dream of I'm going to make it. I'm going to be. so I'm going to write books. I'm going to be TV. I'm going be successful. I'm going to college. going to graduate. Like all these things, I would say as a millennial, like these things that was put in front of me, I was like, okay, let's go. And then I got these things. I'm like, this doesn't feel the way I thought it would feel. Why am I in the boat? Or why am I missing a point? Why do I feel off?
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I feel out of alignment. And but so I realized I took the mask off. I was like, this is interesting. This is scary. Like I created this. I created this life, this false life that I was living that I thought was my true essence. And then it made me go back and say, you know what? Radical acceptance.
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It's okay. What am I here to do? What does my higher self want? What is my soul's calling? I want fulfillment. I don't want success. And I'm learning now that a lot of people are dying in that paradigm, you know, internally because it's not efficient anymore. The towers are falling. People are overwhelmed. They got to keep playing the role
Nature's Influence on Perception and Abundance
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that doesn't fulfill Their soul. And in your line of work, when you talk about in indigenous politics or futurist, what does that actually mean? And how can we become more accustomed to that reality of life? What does that actually encompass?
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Because I've never heard of it, but it's a very curious tone to know through your experience. Yeah, I can share a little bit about each separately and then how they connect. and And just to speak to what you're you're talking about of sort of this, like the tower's falling and that fear of that moment and also the incredible opportunity, because I think prior to this time, we've been able to kind of gloss over and pretend like, oh, things are okay enough.
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actually, they're really not okay. There's an opportunity in that. And I started studying futures in 2009 and I just sort of fell into it. It was an academic field I'd never heard of. And I wanted to go back to school. I love learning. And so I was, you know sort of later, i was about 30 at the time, gone to school, taken a break, started a business, went back to school and found this this study of futures.
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And really it had come out of the seventies when people were having a similar sort of existential crisis around nuclear weapons, you know, environmental issues, all of that. And people started thinking like, we need to think about the futures instead of just blindly going forth and trusting what the government is doing and trusting that everything's going to be okay. And realizing that we're always set different narratives about what the future might be, what we call images of the future. So you you know this from being in Hollywood. We're constantly creating images of what the future might be, and they're typically pretty dystopian. And the policies that are created and the way the world runs guarantees a certain future is going to happen unless we step in as collective and remember that we're very powerful and co-create that futures together. So really, like when I started to figure that out as a field of study, I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. And then I happened to be also blessed, ah born and raised in Hawaii, to be at the University of Hawaii Studying Futures, which has a really robust indigenous politics department.
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There were lot of Native Hawaiian activists and incredible indigenous scholars there. And what i realized in that course of study, when I started diving into understanding myself as a settler and this place, Hawaii, that had always been my home and understanding the histories of colonialism and imperialism and empire, and then understanding that indigenous peoples, you know, this is a generalized term, but in general, most indigenous peoples and indigenous cultures that remain intact are deeply embedded and have a deep relationality with nature. whether it's through like an understanding of animism and the sacredness of earth, that is a way of being that actually counterbalances the kinds of futures that are being fed to us from the the dominant systems of dominant culture. So when I could see the two of those together, it was like, oh, wow, like the futures I dream of, the futures that to me are full of our connectivity to nature, this thriving that allows everyone to have the abundance because nature is so abundant. And that's a blueprint available with indigenous peoples who never lost that pride. And so how might we sort of counterbalance
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repair the colonization, the histories of trauma, the horrible things that have happened and find a way forward for new leadership that really understands that we are earth and we are nature to step forth and lead us into this next chapter as a collective. So the, to me are like beautifully married and
Feminine Energy and Leadership
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balanced. And a lot of the work I do is supporting indigenous activists and frontline defenders of earth and people who are out there really, you know, in social justice movements with whatever capacities I have to help them understand new futures thinking or design thinking or systems understanding so that they can do the work they do. And I find that there's so much courage in that space that it gives me a lot of hope. It's so good because recently, maybe three weeks ago, I read the book by Richard Rudd, The Art of Contemplation. And after reading that book, I really understood the power of nature, the power of contemplation without any outcome, the power of pausing.
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And so I was talking to my healer one day. I was getting a session. She said, you need to start connecting to the elements of earth, water, fire, the wind, the mud, the trees. What is she talking about?
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And so I spent some time in nature. I took the Course in Miracle book and I took another book. You know, I'm i'm into grounding, breath work, all these things. And I'm like, oh, my God.
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We're naturally abundant with nature. started looking at the trees like there's so many trees, there's so much grass, so many flowers, the birds are chirping, everybody's free. And I said, it's the ego mind that comes in and distort our perception of abundance and tell us we're not enough because we've these material possessions. And we build these homes on abundance of land that's been here before us. And we cover up the true abundance, which is nature. you Once I started to like walk with intentions in that park and talk to the trees because everything has a consciousness, I would get downloads and things would come to me because I wasn't looking for it. I just was in contemplation. And it was like the nature of that environment was speaking through me to me to bring it out into the world. And now I can have a real reverence for nature.
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Reverence for trees, the sun, rain and understanding so much deeper than any money I can make, any success I can hit or any opportunity, because it's like omnipresent. It's everywhere all the time. And yet we disconnect.
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We avoid. We don't give it attention that it deserves because we look at it as this is not life. where That's where life stopped. You know, they take it even deeper. So my girlfriend, she's a womb here. And I was telling her about my fear of the ocean because I could barely swim. But when I was born, I was a premature.
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I had a twin that didn't make it. Right. And so she said, think about how you came into life. Whatever your mom was experiencing in her body, in her life, you felt as a baby in the womb. So you pushed out fast because you didn't feel safe. When you came out in life, you didn't feel safe, but you was always a ahead of your time because that's how you started into life. And I started to think like, hold up. She said, so when you get in the ocean, you know, the womb, the water, you didn't feel as safe because how you enter the planet, right? It's obviously okay. So all this is connected. Like nature is all connected to us.
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Like this station or the art of contemplation and like how you came into my vibration. Like it's all interconnected. Nothing is just by accident. So now I have a different, you know, grace and compassion for my mom. And on top of that, most of my clients are mothers and wives.
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So and I feel like through that, I'm healing my mother wound. Right. But I have a different perspective because I was able to slow down and look at mother nature through my mom, through nature. You get the connection. 100 percent. Yeah. It's like we don't even think like I look at women so different now because my hold up, the process that you went through within your being to have me, I didn't understand that that with your experience. How can I be more one with you as a woman, as a feminine specimen? And I feel like women are the universe, like nature, like Pachamama. In your practice, on what you do, how do you connect your femininity with nature and to the planet of with futures? Like, how does that connect the feminine specimen? Because always when i think of like feminine energy, I think about God energy because it's allowance, it's trust, it's flow, it's receiving, it's expanding, right? has so many beautiful things in what you shared. and And just, I think a lot about how, you know, literally the womb is a
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portal of creation where souls enter a human body and then like come into being an earth. It's magic where you think about it and what happens in that state. But, you know, I think the the power of the feminine something I've thought about for a long time. And from the moment I started studying futures, part of what we do in futures work is to understand the past.
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Like, how did you get to where you are before you think about like where we might we go and where do we want to go? And so thinking about the moment we're in and sort of the dominant nature of patriarchy and the suppression of the feminine, and when I learned about the fact that the witch hunts, like that whole period in history was like 600 years or something like that. I mean, we're talking about a long period of time where women were literally burned.
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and like steak for being herbalists, for being connected to nature, for sharing natural wisdom. And prior to that was a lot of goddess worship. And it was really about women being, you know, sort matriarchal, holding the space of leadership. And so that whole history has been suppressed. And there's, you know, this deep kind of wound in the feminine of fear around being seen for our wisdom and our capacity to connect with nature and to have this empathetic interrelationship with Mother Earth. And so that's something that we have to really reckon with.
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and
Spiritual Truths and Living in the Present
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support women and their ability to step forward and to be the healers and sort of the the oracles that we naturally are. Because we do have that connection to source through our womb space, through our ability to hold feminine leadership, which is much more fluid, it's much less hierarchical, it's much more connected to nature and connected to and care and empathy for all, right? So I think that's a real important piece. My friend Pat McCabe, who's an incredible DNA Native American elder, she served shared this term with me, omnivinificent. that everything in nature has an omni-beneficence that sort of just like gives of itself naturally. And I like to use the example of fruit. The thing about like fruit on a tree, it's like, how freaking amazing is that? Like you pick a fruit off a tree, it's sweet, it tastes delicious, it nourishes you, it's full of vitamins just for for no reason. It just does that. all the time. So there's this really benevolent aspect and like givingness that nature provides for us, the abundance that you spoke to in your contemplative journey. And when we can change to that, it eases so much of the fears we have and we can start to see how we've constructed this world that we're in and around deep fear of mother earth and nature and design how to control, manipulate, manage, dominate, which I do believe really comes from that concentration of power in the hands of patriarchs.
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It's not to say that like men are bad or masculine or fat. It's like the power over that expresses itself through what we understand and experience now as patriarchy and sort of typically dominant male leadership. If we look at sort of the world stage and the way that leadership has been concocted and sort of enacted in this time. But it is that power over that desire to dominate and oppress, starting with nature. and then moving to women's bodies. So I think, you know, when we start to remove that and see that like we're actually in communication with the mystery, the beneficence of nature, the abundance of this earth that we've landed on, it's this temple planet is incredible. Our bodies are incredible machines, like no AI. and I've listened to Greg Braden speak about this in his book about being fully human. And I totally subscribe to that idea. Like we're not even fully human yet. We're sort of giving away our power to some of these other technologies thinking that we're not enough. And I think that goes back to this authenticity piece you spoke at beginning where we were taught that who we actually are is not enough, not good enough, shouldn't be seen. we have to hide. We have to conform. When we get rid of that and we start to remember the abundance that is, it just unleashes a whole new ability to be creative and you know enjoy in our lives.
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Wow, that was beautiful. That was a TED talk. Thank you. Because there was so many this perils of wisdom and so many things come in. Like I think about Mary Mandelin and Yahshui, right? That story. No, Mary Mandelin, one of my faves. Yeah, how they treated her. she's supposed have been this type of woman. And I've heard, I don't know how true it is, Albert Einstein and Carl Jung, their ideologies or inventions or intentions came through their wives. It was their wives who channeled that. They gave it to them to push out into the world. Yeah, don't know that, but I could see it being true. Yeah, i was like, oh, this is interesting.
00:17:48
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And then I started thinking about in my journey of, you know, contemplation, really understanding like life. I'm actually feeling life and not experiencing life. So I was experiencing gratitude like, oh, I'm grateful. Yes. But now I'm actually feeling gratitude in my and my challenge has been I've been so in my crown and my up here in the spiritual realm, but I'm not dropping the knowledge in my body so it can push out.
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So to up here is going over people's heads. So I'm like, oh, everything's in my body. i'm I'm leaving my body to go up here to get this information, but I can't transmute it the way because I'm not bringing it back to being my.
00:18:26
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Present. Oh, what am I afraid of? i was like, oh, I'm afraid to feel. Totally. girl, I gave me moment one day. and She's like, my contact for your mind is for your body to receive your health.
00:18:37
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The body keeps the score. And I think
Embodiment for Spiritual Wisdom
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as humans, as collective consciousness, we are one body who we keep deflecting and distracting from feeling what we feel. Right. We're not. at We don't want to be in our hearts. We're on our phones. We're on social media. We love AI and Grubhub and Uber take over. We're not even feeling like humans anymore because we're so disconnected. What do you think is the real way for humans to get back into their body to have this full body human experience? What you think is the most simplest thing that we can do right now, all of us, to make that something normal again? That's such a beautiful question. And your your share is so beautiful. just comment on that a little bit. Because full embodiment, I think, is such a key to where we're we're meant to go as humans. Because similarly, I live from my head up. And a lot of us, when we're born, especially we have a rough birth, I learned this through my energy healing study.
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Actually, like our root chakra is damaged and because we're afraid. So probably you with your premature birth, there's a damage to your root chakra that makes you feel unsafe to be fully embodied and rooted into your center of your being. And so we tend to exist up here thinking that this is spiritual experience when actually it's only connection to one form of spiritual experience.
00:19:46
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But the actual purpose of being in a body is to be in a body, to be grounded to earth who has a whole host of wisdom. She's a celestial being full of wisdom that we're not accessing if we're only up here. So we're actually not being fully spiritual. We're just sort of playing as spiritual.
00:19:59
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It's when we fully embody that we start to become, like you said, able to feel. And I think the other thing to like the self-forgiveness piece is to just be kind with yourself. Like we were born incredible spirits and those little baby bodies came to earth that was in big turmoil. So there's a lot shock to that. And it's natural to be shocked. To be sort like, what is going on here? This place is crazy. I'm going shrink inside so I can survive. And so what we're doing now is to like reawaken our courage and capacity to fully inhabit our form. And that's the full embodiment.
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allows us to be like you said to feel all the good and the bad because it was scary to feel all the grief of seeing what was happening to our planet to each other we may have been families that were very traumatic all kinds of stuff so full self-forgiveness for that and we get to move forward to something else so for me um what has helped me to really become fully embodied breath is massive so my ability to understand working with breath breath work You know, I do a practice most mornings where I just do a simple like 10 breaths, 20 breaths, 30 breaths, deep breaths into my belly, what I call activation breathing. i was trained the Awaken Breath Work Method with Pella and Lucas.
00:20:59
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Some people may know them. They're amazing. And so I do that every morning to just like feel like, okay, I'm awake. I'm alive. It's oxygenates my body. I also think contemplation or prayer is another way to become really like in your body. And I do that every morning too, actually. Mary Magdalene, she's my jam. So I reconnected with my estranged Catholic past by rosary and understanding that the Marys were actually a ah group of priestesses that went by the name Mary. And that meant that they were ah high priestess in that order of the Marys and that they actually were, you know, worshiping the goddess earth and all of this, you know, the whole podcast.
00:21:31
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about that sometime, but um connecting with that ability to understand something greater than myself allows me to see, you know, the miracle of my body and then just noticing my body, like just actually paying attention or to where am I feeling? Am I feeling anything? Am I numbing out?
00:21:45
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How do I numb out? Starting to interrogate and question with love and kindness. What am I using to numb out? Is it social media? Is it substances? Is it distraction? For some of it's it's busyness, just staying busy all this part of why I came to Fiji because I'm like, I just want to be in a place where I don't do much and I'm connected with nature so I can like shed those layers of doing this, of always being active so I can really feel my body and feel myself and be present. Whatever practices are easy for you on a daily basis to just start noticing.
00:22:11
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Breath, I feel like it's such a good because it's free. It's available all the time and it forces you to pause and just sort of be quiet where some of us you know, things like meditation might be harder because our minds are so active. Breath is a nice way to kind of have a moving meditation, but just starting to get, to get into your body and to notice what it feels like when you're out of of the body, when you feel yourself like up here, what does that feel like? How can you notice what happens when you're dissociating? And what does it feel like to bring yourself back in to really ground? So grounding, like you shared, to getting your bare feet on the earth is a really good one. Just feel the earth beneath your feet. Do that as much as possible to feel that connection. There's lots of different simple practices, but wherever you can begin, it's a great. Yeah, it's beautiful because what I've come to realize was the more I slow down, the more I expand.
Living Through the Heart: Authenticity and Rituals
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Yeah. was very afraid of boredom and not boredom, bored, but boredom of doing nothing. Because my energy wanted to cover up that with busyness and that I had to always be doing something for some outcome. Instead of focusing on income, which is the internal being of myself and energetics, how can I slow down and be more present? How can I take my time and do less and have more value impacted into the collective? And the biggest thing I realized, like, wow. I was contemplating like prior to reading that book, had came to me like when I'm in my heart, based on like my astrology reading, my midheaven is in Leo and Pisces.
00:23:33
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We talked about this briefly offline. But when I come from my heart and I speak from that space, that's where my magic comes out. Right. And what came to me was heart authenticity. So it was moved here in this moment. When you think of heart authenticity, what comes up for you and what do you think about in that phrase?
00:23:52
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So Mary Magdalene speaks about seeing through the eye of the heart. That's one of our teachings. And if it's understanding that the heart is a etheric organ of our being, that's beyond just our physical heart, it's the heart space. And it's been described by the Rosicrucians as actually a 12-petaled lotus.
00:24:07
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And we're born, Rosicrucians are an order of of Christianity that came out of the study of Mary Magdalene and Yeshua, like the original study of what they call the Book of Love that was said to have been written actually by Yeshua, not by people who came after. And it was these different teachings that really teach about the heart and heart space and ability to live through the heart. So the 12-petaled lotus were born with six petals unfolded. but And then our practice in this lifetime, if we're you know in contemplation and connection with nature and you know connecting to ourselves and each other, those other petals open. And then the heart becomes seat of knowledge that actually can pull inflammation from the universe and bring it into our being. And so it's actually more powerful than the mind. And in many ways, it serves the heart. And we have it the other way around in a you know culture. So we see the heart with sort of this like emotional thing that doesn't know what it's doing and can make bad decisions. But actually, it's a very powerful sense-making organ.
00:24:55
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Once we tap into it and are able to feel through the heart, see through the eye of the heart and listen to its wisdom can show us some really incredible things about what it means to be human in this. technology of our body. And I think that is the terminology for this new earthworm and what it is to be human because all the material things have overwhelmed and overstimulated us that we don't even know what it feels like to have love or pleasure in our life. Yes.
00:25:17
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Because we're so stimulated so we don't eat we're don't feel feelings. We just like, oh, I'm fine. That's just my shoulders off. You could be dealing with some stubbornness, right? Yeah. that but Well, you're thinking about and and pull up can boredom. It's like boredom is our ability to dream and again, right? And what it is, boredom is just present and quiet. But we we haven't been taught that that's okay because our doing was how we found our identity, which is how we found our worth. Because we were feeling unworthy from the beginning in our authenticity. So once you find the worthiness of just being, there's such a freedom that is, you know, brought through that it's really incredible. And freedom is what everybody is searching for. They just don't know it.
00:25:55
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And I think what I realized was, oh, a lot of these things I've been doing like unconsciously on my spiritual pursuit, but then I would judge myself because I felt like it's not normal. So maybe maybe I should stop that. where I would say living life sacred.
00:26:10
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Like before I get on a podcast, I pray. Before I go to the grocery store, I pray in tune. And before I walk outside, I thank the sun. and And I would do it in spurts. But then I would stop because my unconscious like, what are you doing? i Like that's down. Now that I have like mentors and people who are higher frequency that's done this work. And it's like, no, no, live your life like a ceremony.
00:26:30
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You will have a party. And I'm like, really? Like I'm in this new class activating like my frequency and taking it higher. And there's a moment that I discover within my being when it's quiet for a long time, I get uncomfortable in my body or I go to sleep. And I'm like, why am I going? Why can't I stay awake for an hour? What is happening in my nervous system and why i'm falling asleep? Even though it's okay, but why do I do that?
00:26:53
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Why can't I just be fully present for this hour? If the facilitator is talking for 38 minutes and the no that you know, andch what is my body and nervous system afraid of? And presence is where the real power is.
00:27:05
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And I'm just thankful for what you offer to the world. Can we talk a little bit about your podcast? Because you have some great episodes. And can you talk about the but is the Beloved Futures podcast? Yeah, it's called Beloved Futures.
00:27:19
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Yeah. And it really just came out of a realization. I love listening to podcasts. Like I'm always into them. I love consuming them as media. That's like, you know, you can choose what you want to listen to and some really deep, beautiful
Envisioning Positive Futures
00:27:30
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conversations. And then i I realized in the work I was doing, you know, globally working with all these incredible humans that are doing really powerful things to build new futures that are just beautiful visions and how so much of our like, you know, mainstream media is so negative and it's all about dystopia and sort of like what's wrong with the world. I wanted to just like offer as, you know, sharing out all these people I get to to know in my life that I feel so lucky to be around to share their stories so other people can see like, wow, there's a lot happening out there. That's good. Like there's so many of us around the globe, like these little points of light that are just quietly doing our work.
00:28:03
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you know, and showing up each day and bettering ourselves and our families and our communities, some more famous than others, but all important. And so a variety of people on the show, some that are more well known, some people may have never heard of, and they're working in all different types of capacities and ways. But the thread through is that they hold a vision of a beautiful, beloved future that they know is possible and that they're working towards and that they dedicated their lives to. Well, It's really, you know, similar to this podcast, it's conversational in style. And it's really my offering, my Seva, to the world so people can feel inspiration and feel hope and feel like there's more that's coming, you know? Yeah, because we need the the blueprint to see that we're walking into you is going to be okay. And I think the majority of us who hasn't
Managing Transitions and Intuition
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had the opportunity to do the work or understand the work, to work within yourself, on yourself, there's a lot of fear, as we talked about before.
00:28:53
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And there's a quote, I'm taking, I think you've You said it on January 1st on your Instagram. How much of my old life do I carry into my new one? And I think at this turning point for the world, how do we decipher? It's kind of like ego versus intuition or intuition versus discernment. Like, how do you decipher? Like, as I move into this new path, this new phase, what do I take and what do I leave? How do you know? I literally just had a client who just stepped down from a big, big position in her business and her like CEO. And she's like,
00:29:25
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I don't want to do it no more. I just want to live a normal life. I want to sing and be with my little girls. i want to be with my teenagers now. And she's 50. Like her and her husband built a very successful business. She in so much fear. But I said, this is the best decision for your soul. So if we're speaking to her or whoever's listening, that's in a transition, because I get, I always attract clients when they're in a transition, whether it's divorce, new job, new career. How much of my old life do I carry into my new one? Yeah, that question. I love that inquiry and I sit with it all the time. And I think it applies to our whole society, right? As humble and certain things, you know, we'll we'll remain and we'll work with them in different ways. But I think it's about that embodiment piece going back to that, because we can't really make that decision from a place of just being in our mind. We have to be fully sort of in our bodies and understanding ourselves to be able to feel and hear what our bodies are telling us. And our bodies really do give us information all the time.
00:30:14
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And the piece you're saying about intuition versus discernment, one of the best descriptions I've heard about intuition was intuition arrives with no story. So it arrives as a thought with no story attached. If it's got a story attached, like this is the idea, oh, but what about or have you thought about or when this happened, that happened.
00:30:29
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Any sort of story attached means it's your ego or your mind, not intuition. Intuition is a direct line to spirit giving just drop-ins of information. that's one way to kind of tell is a thing to me or is it my mind kind of telling me a story and discerning that. piece And I think that starts to arrive more to us when we become more embodied.
00:30:46
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So when we start to trust our own bodies and fully arrive in our bodies for the incredible technologies they are to feel through and see through the eye of the heart, our gut or na'au, Hawaiians call it the na'au. It was always considered one of the highest seats of wisdom as well. was another place, you know, healing the gut. So doing some of the physical work to heal the gut, to find ways to become more in the body, to feel safe in the body. Then we'll start to receive the information. And like with your client, it's like if that download is coming and I just feel like I need to lead this.
00:31:15
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yeah Finding the courts like she found you or whatever it looks to be supportive in taking that leap because your future self is
Soul Purpose and Personal Growth
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giving you really profound information and life is is brief and beautiful and we've got to live it to our fullest. And that's when we're You know, it's, i was just writing about this the other morning where it's like, we have these illusions about what a grand life looks like or big impact looks like. And and for her, like raising those children with her core present is massive impact.
00:31:41
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It's just celebrated that way by our society, unfortunately, but we play that game anymore. We can actually know that our quantum outsized impact comes from these things that really speak to our soul that seems small to the outside, but actually are massive. So like trusting that and finding the people to surround yourself with it that helps the support you in that new way of being. That's how we like together start to step towards something else.
00:32:03
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That's so powerful. Intuition doesn't have a story. And it this particular client, I was asking her, how did she find me? She said, I saw you on social. And I said, why did you? She said, my intuition. That I've never hired a coach. She's like, I've been in business all my life. You know, i asked how she was feeling. and she's like, I'm sad, scared.
00:32:18
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And it felt like the little girl in her, like, come up. But I think the powerful thing about is that the more, and I want you to speak on this before we, you know, in this episode, it's like the more we get people into the alignment of their soul's assignment. I'm not sure with the... frequency of the vibration is like if you could get a one to 10 people into like a frequency of and then push out to the world you don't need everybody in that vibration just a few of those people we can change the collective and I told I said your sole purpose and you spending time with your kids and being present that's going to give you so much fulfillment than any money to any opportunity that you're going to get by staying in that position of business Because your soul is calling you back home to yourself. to Like, you want peace. You want freedom.
00:32:59
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And you've done the work. I say, you'd be, you know, 50 next year. So it's like, hey, you did what you had to do. You're successful business person, mom, wife. Let's give yourself back the joy you gave everyone else.
00:33:11
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Let's live in that. So that was a beautiful thing, like, right? Getting in the body, how do you mean feeling? Because I think a lot of us are like that, especially with all these astrological placements changing and things are just...
00:33:23
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What do we do? i don't know what to do. And we did the like the logic mind takeover. Got to get into the bodies. We got to have embodiment and we got to have you in our life. Is there how does someone work with you and how do we get into your vortex to be a part of your energy and what you offer to the world?
00:33:41
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Thank you to that question. So my website is ourbelovedfutures.com. And I've got the book that's coming out in October, which will be the same name, Our Beloved Futures, which is really a lot of what we've been talking about within the book poetic writing that to me really works at two levels, like through the reading and also the like frequency experience of the words. And it will be an audio book as well. And then i we're going to be holding workshops coming up. One of them is called Interbeing. It's a new cohort I'm launching with a friend that's really around that idea, concept from Thip Nhat Hanh of interbeing that we're all interconnected. It's a seven month journey to help folks who are on that and like desire for embodiment path, but towards the end of being of service to the world. Right. So it's not just about healing for healing's sake or healing just for myself. It's healing myself so that I may be of service in whatever form that takes, whether, again, it's like with your family or in some other capacity.
00:34:30
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But it's a deep dive into that, like untangling and unweaving the things within our system that have been woven throughout that goes on like futures and breath and all the ah different modalities. And then other you know courses and workshops will be coming. and It's all be on the website and my podcast.
00:34:45
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Give all the podcasts and all that to do. Beautiful. Well, thank you for your time. Last question. When you think of spiritual fitness,
Defining Spiritual Fitness
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what do you think about? oh what' it i It came through this morning because i was thinking about that and I was, I was hugging my son and I said to pray pray the rosary every morning and he was asking me about the beads. And so I was sharing with him and I sort of have um worked with the prayers to change them a little bit with a friend of mine, Reggie Riverbear, who taught me the rosary prayer. And it's connected to earth, you know, and sort of just words that resonate for me. But I pray that the beads and then the last five are to my family and the earth. I was sharing all this with him and he's like, well, i'm mom, that's really beautiful. And I said, do you know what? This is my spiritual fitness. It's my morning workout.
00:35:20
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It's my morning spiritual workout. Cause he did the math. He was like, wait, how long does the prayer take you? I said, 20, 30 minutes. He's like, oh my God. So every 48 days you're praying for 24 hours. And I was like, oh my God, you're right. That's quite a bit of workout, you know, but It owns me. it connects me to the earth. It connects me to my family. It connects me to joy and gratitude and to a sense of service to other and to myself. And yeah, so that's my spiritual fitness.
00:35:42
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Wow, that's beautiful. And honestly, that's what spiritual fitness is. It's the autonomy of your soul that you trust and believe and that you move forward in. And it doesn't have to be what I think or someone else that looks a certain way. It's customized to your soul's essence.
00:35:56
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And before you do that over time, you create something through that cohort to take you to another extension of yourself and its become spiritually fit of you. Like your muscles in the gym. It's ri is the same thing.
00:36:09
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Yeah. So D, but a reps and set, they said repetition is the mother's skill. So yeah. It can be as simple as the walk you did through the forest, you know, to have a particular prayer practice or movement practice. Just walk. Just walk. Yeah. That's spiritual fitness. It's however you feel in your body to trust that thing. Like, oh, my body's telling me to go for a walk and jump water and call my mom.
00:36:29
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Okay. That's your spiritual fitness. Or another one I've taught our kids is to thank our water every morning. pla The water we have, we say thank you to the water. Rinse water, hold memory. And it's this incredible thing that nourishes our bodies. We just give it some thanks.
00:36:42
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We thank our food before we eat. Really simple practices that just start to create a spiritual feeling in life. not a spiritual fitness. har morgange Thank you. Thank you, everybody.
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00:37:06
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00:37:10
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