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Beyond the Pitch Episode 62: Tackling Systemic Challenges in Women's Football Funding. Access and Facilities
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Despite the sport’s growing popularity, women’s football still faces major challenges around funding, access to quality facilities, and supportive legislation. In today’s episode, we’ll explore these three areas and discuss the steps needed to create a fairer, more sustainable future for female athletes. We’ll unpack the impact of funding inequalities, look at the issues around training resources, and explore how policy changes could reshape the landscape for women’s football.
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Introduction to 'Beyond the Pitch'
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Hello and welcome to Beyond the Pitch, a daily women's football podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. Today is brought to you by myself, Bryony, and I'm joined by Raj.
00:00:22
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Good evening.
00:00:23
Raj
Hello, how you doing, you all right?
00:00:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Good, thank you. How are you?
00:00:26
Raj
Yeah, I'm good, thank you.
Challenges in Women's Football: Funding, Access, Legislation
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Global Sports Podcast Network
So in this podcast, all things women's football as per usual, we will be tackling an important topic. We'll be discussing how we can break down as per usual the barriers within football. ah Despite a sports growing popularity, women's football still faces major challenges around funding, access to quality quality facilities and supportive legislation.
00:00:54
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In today's episode, we'll explore these three areas and discuss the steps needed to create a fairer, more sustainable future for female athletes. We'll unpack the impact of funding inequalities, look at the issues around training resources and explore how policy changes could reshape the landscape for women's football.
00:01:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
So let's start broadly. um Funded inequalities. um I'm not going to sit here and claim to be an expert on this, but I think it's quite easy to agree. It's a given that, you know, unequal funding within the women's side of the game and how the impact that that has on the quality and growth of the game
00:01:40
Raj
yeah yeah and Yeah, similar really. I think it's more based on like our personal experiences and ah the people we play football with and where we've played football.
Personal Experiences with Funding Disparities
00:01:54
Raj
We'll always see a massive difference in I know from a personal experience, like wherever I've been and through seeing players on the on the WSL, Lucy Bronz has been talking about it a lot lately as well. and Just the pure lack of funding within women's football and lack of kind of ah realisation as well, and because I think
00:02:25
Raj
ah
00:02:28
Raj
we're under the impression there's a lot has changed since um the lionesses won the euros which it has but it feels like because a bit changed and because more they i keep seeing this thing that that's going around like 50 000 more females have started playing football since the lionesses won um but it just doesn't feel like in relation to that there's been enough funding cloud into it to cater for it.
UEFA's Role in Funding Improvements
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There was obviously, like um after we won the Euros, et cetera, there was the the letter that was written um that pleaded to, or or stated that its new mission was to you know provide equal access to football within school, that goes football in the school curriculum, PE curriculum, um that there'd be a pot of money put aside that was being invested and funded in terms of football.
00:03:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very recently, over the last few weeks, UEFA within their unstoppable mission have put something out about, ah I think it's a million or was it a million or a billion or something that's been therey a million been set aside for, um but it just seems that I think the for me the difference between men and women's football is the way that women's football does see the funding put in but it's put in in here and there, dribs and drabs as opposed to the continuous funding and income that the men's side of the game sees and you know the moment that there is then a pot of money or
00:04:06
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something financially um invested into the women's side of the game. There's a big deal made of it, like some some services being, you know, or some someone deserves a pat on the back for it, maybe.
00:04:13
Raj
Exactly.
00:04:18
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be And whereas the men's game, like I say, sees this continuous flow of money into it all the time from national governing bodies and international boards.
00:04:19
Raj
Yeah.
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Raj
Given.
00:04:33
Raj
Yeah.
00:04:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it's just not like that on the women's side of the game.
00:04:36
Raj
No and yeah you you you summed up brilliantly there literally um we'll always see a post about it or there'll always be a headline about it when so when when money's been ploughed into women's football but like oh it's almost as if oh we've ploughed this in they'll shut up like we've lost our backs for like a couple of months or whatever and then if you complain about it it's just because you're women because look we've done that
00:05:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:05:05
Raj
where actually you don't need to shout about it.
00:05:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:05:07
Raj
You just need to be consistent because women's football isn't going anywhere. The point is we want it to grow. We don't want like ah a lump sum and then do a little something with it and then it just drops off.
00:05:19
Raj
It needs a continuous flow to continuously grow just like the men's game.
00:05:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:05:24
Raj
I think the thing that they need to realize is we want to be on par with the men's game. And not only do we want it, We deserve it. is We should be able to have it.
00:05:38
Raj
But there's still just this stigma around women's football isn't football, it's women's football.
00:05:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Yeah.
00:05:47
Raj
I don't know how, if we don't get that continuous funding and we don't get that seriousness to say, yeah, do you know what? like we we want to help you grow or whatever, like how we're going to get over that barrier of being from going going from women's football just to football.
00:06:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's also maybe recognizing how You know, it's fair enough. I understand through, like, organisations and the governing bodies that they only have so much money, they can't pull it out of nowhere.
Pay Equality: Danish Men's Team's Contribution
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I get that. But it's at the same time, it's how they manage that money.
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to stretch does in the most advantage advantageous way possible. like For example, we saw, gosh, about a year ago now, the Danish ah men's national team who, I can't remember if they refused to take a pay rise or they decided to take a pay cut so that their women's national team were equally paid and there was no gender pay gap, which, you know,
00:06:37
Raj
Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm on the fence about how I talk about it, because one minute I'm like, that was really good of them.
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Raj
Oh.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Because it was technically good of them, because, you know, they they don't have to do that. No one's forcing them to do that. But at the same time, why am I so um like, like, it's just, yeah, like, for something like that, like, it's how it should technically be anyway.
00:07:04
Raj
oh grateful. but
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um And you can, you can argue until you're blue in the face that, you know, in Football, you know, it's what you bring in is what you're gonna get paid like the men's side of the game They do make more money.
00:07:27
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That's just a fact because it's followed more and there's more so rights to it.
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Raj
Yeah.
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um It's just everything sponsorship but Not totally again, I'm not gonna claim to be an expert on this this kind of subject area, but I think it's fair to say that in women's
00:07:31
Raj
It's been running really well as well. It's been running really well.
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international football, international football full stop, that's not as difficult because it's... International football's not quite the same as club football, et cetera, et cetera, in that it's funded from the same place. It tends to have the same sponsors. Like you look at the English english national teams, they're sponsored by the same people. They're the the in England national teams. yeah so much It would be so much easier to make headway here with the national teams, like the Danish team have done. It doesn't seem that anyone's really followed suit with it though.
00:08:21
Raj
And that's what I mean. um I think it was that they they refused to take their pay rise, that they were just automatically due to gear. And they personally made made that decision. It wasn't actually the Danish Football Association that were like, look guys, it was actually, um I think it was like ah Christian Erickson ah got together with a few players and then they decided it together.
00:08:48
Raj
and But that's what I'm saying, the mentality isn't there of the other nations to do that because it's just not important enough. And I don't know how we push the important or stress the important. And it goes back to all the other pods that we've ever done of men just not taking women's football seriously. There just being lack of support, comments, et cetera, et cetera. And this is one of the domino effects
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And I think this will probably be a good time to go to an ad break just on the basis that kind of the next section we'll talk about speaks more to the access opportunities and the training, um quality level of training for women. And I personally feel that that's something that could have the knock on effect, but we'll talk about it at the moment.
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00:10:05
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So I
Access to Training and Facilities
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think a really interesting point here is that actually Women obviously feel the effects of lack of funding, the pay gaps, et cetera, et cetera. But the access to training and facilities, if you like, I guess is another question. And I think it's fair to say we have seen um instances where female access to training within football
00:10:42
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It's disadvantage, but I mean, I will always be a bit biased in everything from a coach perspective, because I'm a coach. And actually, financially, I do think there is headway there, but just on the So the FA are, there are female coach bursary schemes in place. So a lot, are not all, but a lot of women who want to do badges get some level of um contribution towards costs. Not always, but there there are the there are the options there. Like the B license, there is the, i don't even I don't even know yet how I've gotten with my application and but I'm on the B license, but you know, I might at some point turn around and get offered some level of funding. I'm still waiting to hear about that.
00:11:27
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um But there are like the fully funded application places wherein a lot of them get given to women. um It's all just on on the with the aim sorry of getting more women into, for example, the coaching roles, things like that.
00:11:27
Raj
my
00:11:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I think in training or quality training areas, the access is there. They're attempting financially to support people in those positions. We know and we've spoken low and behold about how you know, access to quality training can be limited for all sorts of other reasons as a woman.
00:12:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think particularly as you look away from the professional or elite levels of the game, facility access, i.e. within grassroots and just above, facility access to women in the game is poor.
00:12:22
Raj
facility.
00:12:27
Raj
Yeah, it is. um And I don't know if that's just ah grassroots level. I don't know if it's the same for men. I know it's not particularly great for men, but I know they definitely get first pick of like everything like they get there.
00:12:45
Raj
10 o'clock kickoffs and we'd get lumbered with the 2 p.m. kickoffs after they played and made holes in the pitches and stuff like that.
00:12:54
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Yeah.
00:12:55
Raj
Cheers then, I'll just go and do my ACL, shall I, on that pitch.
00:12:57
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Yeah.
00:12:58
Raj
if and
00:13:00
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yeah
00:13:01
Raj
Yeah, but I think, again, it just all comes down to that women are always going to be secondary in in the game until we um I don't even know what we have to do about it at this point.
00:13:16
Raj
I know obviously yeah but we were talking about it. I watched the the COPA 71 documentary on the BBC. And and I think we there were massive things in that.
00:13:25
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Yep.
00:13:31
Raj
So that was 1971. They didn't get paid to pay in that. um Most of the women's team, ah the Danish team funded themselves, their family and friends funded themselves to go and play in that. um And the only reason that that World Cup got played okay so from watching it is because they advertised it they they basically sexualized the players and advertised it as a money-making scheme in Mexico.
00:14:04
Raj
So Mexico's entrepreneurs, businessmen were like, hang on a minute, no other country's done this. We're gonna do it and we're gonna make loads of money from it. And then the final wasn't actually delayed because of the women, it wasn't actually women kicked up a fuss about not getting paid.
00:14:23
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Mm-hmm. Hmm.
00:14:24
Raj
ah But they were just so grateful that they were able to play. They were like, we don't want you to pay us.
00:14:30
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Yep.
00:14:32
Raj
We'll just play.
00:14:32
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Yep.
Historical Context of Self-Funding in Women's Football
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Raj
And i don't i think that is still I think we're still in such a mindset that we're still so grateful we get to play because it's just such a privilege to us.
00:14:47
Raj
So nothing's really been done about the financial side to get us on par. like with the men because we're still so grateful for being able to just even play like I think it's I think it's this Saturday I'm not completely sure on that that all the women I get into play at the main stadiums yeah like changing about that
00:15:07
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Yeah. So this is what I was just about to say it was the, you know, I guess even at the elite level of the game, how many, you know, WSL teams are actually playing in proper stadiums or at the, the equal or playing at the equal counterpart to their men in their round.
00:15:21
Raj
you know we didn't see that post I was just literally she like why is this being celebrated like this is ridiculous like why are we celebrating that the women's super league which is equivalent to the men's premier league
00:15:28
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:39
Raj
or getting for one weekend to all players said, because the men's games aren't on, that's the only reason why.
00:15:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:15:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:15:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. International break.
00:15:50
Raj
Not because, can you imagine? And then I thought, can you imagine if they said to the men, but you play where the women were meant to play, because this would quit swapping, and the WSA wasn't gonna play, and you're gonna play, can you imagine the scenes?
00:16:00
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Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:16:06
Raj
But, That should be, it shouldn't be a like ah an out of world scenario because women should be equal to men and well, they're playing football and it's their important league game. So actually, why can't you swap?
00:16:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I guess the way that again, unfortunately, it all falls back to ticket, ticket sales and things like that.
00:16:26
Raj
The fans and the money. and
00:16:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, you know, and it is sad because like, ah so I'm coaching like down here with a Plymouth Argyle on that. And, you know, I work on match days, like I coordinate like mascots and do a bit of coaching on the pitch at halftime and things like that.
00:16:44
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And at home park and for a championship club whose women's team are in the third tier in the National League actually the women do play at the ground that the men play at because the men play every every Saturday the women play every Sunday and that's how it is they both play in the stadium but it's literally like it's like two different stadiums because
00:16:55
Raj
so
00:17:11
Raj
Is it?
00:17:12
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Saturday is the championship. It's Wayne Rooney's Plymouth Fargo. It's a 17,000 sold-out stadium. um like it the It shakes.
00:17:25
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it w rath it's just It's a different vibe.
00:17:28
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And then on a Sunday, like if they sell 1,000 tickets, then they' then they've done really well.
00:17:28
Raj
No.
00:17:35
Raj
Really.
00:17:36
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Yeah, exactly. And it's like you don't even fit in half a stand. it's it's just
00:17:40
Raj
That's sad.
00:17:42
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you know and you've got You've got season ticket holders as well. You've got male season ticket holders of ah of Championship Argyle who included in their season ticket can watch the women as well and most of them don't.
00:17:51
Raj
I don't, yeah.
00:17:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why wouldn't you? It's another, even if, you know, regardless of women's football, it's also an extra opportunity to sit and watch a game at a pretty decent, nice stadium.
00:17:58
Raj
is football
00:18:04
Raj
a
00:18:06
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Like, it just baffles me.
00:18:08
Raj
a
00:18:09
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it just it's just too It's like a totally different ground on a women's match day.
00:18:14
Raj
It's like you're talking about a different sport. It's like you're saying right now on a Sunday, you're going to go and watch rugby. And they're just like, no, don't fancy that.
00:18:21
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Yeah, literally.
00:18:21
Raj
It's not taken seriously.
00:18:22
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It's mad.
00:18:25
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um or you'll find that some of them do go and watch the women but they don't commit to go into every game like they do the men or many games so they'll all go alternately in different games and so it's just there's just never big numbers so I could say the the Derby game so against Exeter City um last month I think that was just short of 2000 and it was like a record or something for them
00:18:48
Raj
Wow.
00:18:48
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and it's just
00:18:49
Raj
Wow.
00:18:50
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And and that's ah that's still at such a level. That's third tier, like, Barclays National Women's League.
00:18:54
Raj
Yeah.
00:18:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, it's just madness.
00:18:57
Raj
Yeah. And we were actually having this discussion with the team that I coach because we play on Sundays at two and Pompey who are in the championship, Pompey Ladies, they also play on Sundays at two so we can't go and watch them.
00:19:16
Raj
because we're like, we would literally go as a team to every game, but we're playing when they play.
00:19:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, so you can't, you're instantly blocked.
00:19:25
Raj
Yeah, we can't even, and most fans are going to want to watch them, or a big majority of them, a vast majority of them, are going to be players, yeah, women that play football, and we want to go and support them, especially being promoted.
00:19:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
All the men that play. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:39
Raj
them
00:19:40
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And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna rub salt in the wound too much, but um I'll go, I'll go with men, Pompey, last week.
00:19:41
Raj
and
00:19:48
Raj
i yeah
00:19:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you see that?
00:19:51
Raj
and is yeah a
00:19:54
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I was there.
00:19:55
Raj
what Do you know what?
00:19:57
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That was a much needed win.
00:19:59
Raj
I'm more of a Man United fan anyway. but to
00:20:03
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Pick and choose, do you?
00:20:05
Raj
yeah
00:20:05
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i wouldn't want us so I can't believe you. I'd rather be a Pompey fan right now, quite frankly, I think.
00:20:10
Raj
Hey, come on, free now. I'll take that.
00:20:14
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Enjoy it while it lasts is all I'm going to say.
00:20:16
Raj
Yeah, I was going to say, oh yeah, literally I'm doing that.
00:20:20
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On the other hand, it's a great time to be alive as a Liverpool fan at the moment.
00:20:24
Raj
Oh, whatever. Anyways, isn't it time for that joke?
00:20:25
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watching yeah it's time for an ad break yep we'll cut to an ad break there then
00:20:27
Raj
This isn't my joke.
00:20:33
Raj
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00:20:57
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So last little bit,
Policy Changes for Gender Equality in Sports
00:21:01
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it's, we kind of, I guess we touched upon it as we're speaking, but, you know, how can national and international policies help promote gender equality? Simple as that, you know,
00:21:17
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what, you know, ah so I'm hoping next year to go and do a little bit of research, I say a little bit, hope to go do a PhD.
00:21:24
Raj
Must be stupid.
00:21:25
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So a big piece of research.
00:21:27
Raj
you yes
00:21:28
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And, um you know, I, in my application, I, it it plays to my strengths to say it, but it's actually, it's so true that all these things, women's football,
00:21:42
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and trying to develop the equality within this womans this sport or women's sport generally isn't just, is it's it's actually massive how that has such an impact on society as a whole. but It's not just sport. like Advocating and trying to promote equality within women's sport has such an impact on the equality of society and vice versa.
00:22:12
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And whether people realize it directly or indirectly, do we not find that you know stereotypes or levels of respect or equality in certain avenues of society are reflected in the sport? And actually, as you know the sport's becoming more respected, certain aspects of women in society are becoming more respected.
00:22:36
Raj
Yeah, and Emma Hayes, ah for example,
Emma Hayes: A Trailblazer in Women's Football
00:22:41
Raj
um she's a massively ah respected figure because of how well she's done at Chelsea and now um she's got a fantastic record already smashing out at the USA and obviously the end of the month is going to be um the big ah big test for that.
00:23:01
Raj
um Interestingly, I was actually watching an interview with her the other day. um And this was, ah it was it must have been a couple of months back. It was before the the England men's manager had been appointed. And um he was kind of asking her, like, you've got lots of accolades within what you do now. um Would you go for it yourself?
00:23:30
Raj
um And her response was, um no, she said he said, sorry, why didn't you ah put yourself up for the job or something like that? And she said, ask the people whose decision it was, because I wasn't um even considered for it. um She said, I had no say in it, I had no chance in it. And still, if you ask me, men's football still isn't ready for women.
00:24:02
Raj
So I think even, and she's proved herself so much, there is that there is that respect there, but still, there's still a barrier of, they wouldn't she would never have been considered for the role, regardless of the fact that what she's achieved.
00:24:07
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yeah
00:24:20
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and Regardless of the fact that the majority of managers in women's football men
00:24:26
Raj
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
00:24:28
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So you can't argue that on because it's not the same the other way. is you know Do I personally think that Emma Hayes would be ideally positioned to manage an England men's national team?
00:24:32
Raj
live.
00:24:46
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I actually think now would be the perfect time. I also, if I was Emma Hayes, I wouldn't want to, I don't think on the basis that why would you why would you snub yourself the opportunity so quickly into the US s national team, the women's team.
00:25:02
Raj
Oh, exactly.
00:25:03
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And I think that's a way better place to be alive at right now than in men's, English men's football.
00:25:07
Raj
It is still not Gary Southgate's mess.
00:25:13
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um ah
00:25:13
Raj
just
00:25:14
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Yeah. No, exactly. And we're at this we' at this point in time where it's on the verge of happening, but it's going to be people dipping their toe in and out here and going, shower, do it, shower, do it, shower, do it, shower, do it.
00:25:28
Raj
Whoa.
00:25:31
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It's just going to take the right person to to just make, take the leap of faith and make the decision. I think once that happens, I think it'll all come. I think it'll, that'll be it.
00:25:43
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I think we'll start seeing more women in the men's side of the game, coaching, et cetera, et cetera.
00:25:48
Raj
You have to...
00:25:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just think the first person used to do it, because at the moment, it's such a... But then, ah you know say it hasn't, but hypothetically speaking, someone like Emma Hayes was employed for that England manager job.
00:26:01
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My God, I would do not have wanted to be her. You're literally going to be so scrutinised, you're going to be so scrutinised that you're going to make mistakes because you're going to be under so much pressure.
00:26:13
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And maybe I'm...
00:26:14
Raj
just not undid...
00:26:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:26:17
Raj
You're not just, though sorry, um like we said, like one of our, but one of our partners on a couple of months back, you're not just judged on the football and she wouldn't just be, like, Gareth, Gareth Southgate didn't get attacked for anything other than he just never made the right decisions when, when, when, like, no one else attacked him, like, personally, which, like, that's how it should be, one million percent.
00:26:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, literally.
00:26:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but you know that the moment England lost a game, it wouldn't be because of what she did or her decision she made.
00:26:43
Raj
But Emma hates
00:26:47
Raj
it a woman
00:26:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's because, oh my God, she's a woman.
00:26:49
Raj
Yeah, that's what it was.
00:26:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
so
00:26:52
Raj
That's why. Exactly. So yeah, I don't blame her.
00:26:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:56
Raj
That would be my worst. I wouldn't want to do
Gender Bias in Coaching Roles
00:26:58
Raj
that. But if that if things were fair, then yeah, she should have got that job. She should have been in there. And if she'd made mistakes, it would have just been because well then maybe she wasn't ready and that's it that's what it would have come down to you but is it isn't i mean did you see how much uh how much abuse um uh i think his name's uh who did they put thomas uh how do you say it i don't even know how to say something thomas tuchel whatever his name is who yeah yeah because he's german everyone's like oh my god you made the right decision mate
00:27:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
O2 show, yeah. Yeah.
00:27:38
Raj
yeah
00:27:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I'm not being funny, but we've had so many non-English managers over the years.
00:27:40
Raj
such
00:27:43
Raj
yeah
00:27:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't see, like, Fabio Cappello was the first one.
00:27:46
Raj
Yes, Svengore Ericsson, hello!
00:27:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
What was he, Italian?
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, like...
00:27:52
Raj
Get over it.
00:27:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whatever. On that note, that is all we have time for today.
00:27:55
Raj
yeah
00:27:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
Conclusion: Breaking Barriers in Women's Football
00:27:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
So go away thinking about the ridiculous things that the people on the spotlight of football ah called out for.
00:28:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But i've yeah, thank you for joining us and we will see you or speak to you, whatever it is. Don't know what it is anymore.
00:28:09
Raj
yeah
00:28:17
Raj
Let's speak to us.
00:28:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:28:18
Raj
Join us again for listening to how we're going to break down the barriers of women being scrutinized in football for everything that they do.
00:28:32
Raj
And we will get equality if it breaks us.
00:28:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's just Nicely said, I'll leave it there. See you all later. um
00:28:41
Raj
Otherwise,