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Join Dave and Jake as they talk about etiquette for reheating pizza, USB car jumpers, how we mistreated our first vehicles, finding time to read, and visualizing images in this week's episode!

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Dinner Choices and Leftovers

00:00:44
Speaker
How's it going, everyone? Welcome to another episode of Soapstone. My name is Jake. I'm joined by my co-host is always Dave. How's it going tonight, Dave? I, I'm of two minds. Hmm. Okay. The first is it's going fine. Sure. The second is I felt gross at least once today and based on my dinner choices, I'm going to feel gross again in the near future. That's so what'd you have for dinner?
00:01:13
Speaker
I had a bagel with those little deli turkey slices. No spread whatsoever. Judge me. Okay, I am. But the other main thing is I had a shin instant ramen thing. Spicy. And I'm sure my insides will not be happy with that combination. I mean, it sounds good. I mean, the turkey bagel sounds very sad, but it is sad. Ramen sounds good.
00:01:41
Speaker
No, like mayo or mustard or anything like that around. No, I have both of those things around. I just wanted something like that because of how gross I felt in the afternoon. I was like, oh, let me have something a little bit more bland, which is where I came to the bagel. Yeah. And then I'm like, but Shin Ramen though. This is the clean flavor. That's fair.
00:02:05
Speaker
That's definitely fair. Um, mine is not so adventurous either. We had some leftover pizza and so I ate it and I think, I don't know. All right. So here's my, here's my question today. All right. So I know it's been a while since you were in college, so maybe your opinion on this has changed. How long would refrigerate it? This is refrigerated. Would you eat refrigerated pizza?
00:02:34
Speaker
How many days could pass? Ooh, the number is higher than I think most people would like. A little bit of that college bleeding it in, perhaps. I think it really depends on how well it reheats. OK. Because I've definitely gotten pizza from a place, and it'll be in cardboard in my fridge. And first two days, I'm like, oh, it's all right.
00:02:58
Speaker
And third day, it's just kind of like cardboard itself. And that's where I'm like, I don't want to eat this because even trying to reheat it in a certain way isn't going to make it good. It's kind of like it's kind of staled out. Right. Do you use do you ever like microwave it with a little bit of water on top, just like a spritz, little little.
00:03:17
Speaker
I'm making a motion with my hand that will not translate at all for a podcast. If you're blessing somebody.

Food Safety and Freshness

00:03:25
Speaker
Yes, exactly. You bless the pizza with a little bit of moisture and then you microwave it so it kind of like comes back together. I haven't microwaved pizza in so long. That's fair. Again, if you're ever like, what's Dave like as a person? I'm so curious.
00:03:44
Speaker
Bachelor mentality for 99% of stuff. I can be a clean enough person, but as far as food goes, if I just want to eat the leftovers, I'll have it cold.
00:03:55
Speaker
If for some reason I want it hot, which is it happens, I would probably put it in like the toaster oven. That's fair. I mean, that's a way to get like a nice thing instead of like I don't like when you fucking like microwave cheese. Yeah, it's just like it helps with the rehydration, I think, with the the the blessing of water. But it does not help with pretty much anything else like.
00:04:19
Speaker
If the pizza is in any sort of, if it still has any sort of structural integrity, if this isn't like a 15%, maybe 10% durability pizza, then I think it's always better to use like a toaster oven or an oven or something like that, because it'll just taste better.
00:04:36
Speaker
But if it is cardboard, you can re-infuse it a little bit with one less desperate effort for a temporary buff. Maybe like 15 minutes, 20 minutes is all that will last. And then it just ceases to exist. That temporary durability goes away. The pizza degrades into rot or something. You just throw it in the garbage. But three days?
00:05:01
Speaker
I could do at least three days, but I still think it'll come down to how it actually is. Sure. Because I could take a bite after three days, and if it still tastes fine, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I'll eat it. And then if it goes on the fourth day, just repeat that process. In the same way, you might smell something in your fridge where it's like, how long has this been here? And you make a judgment call, right? Yeah.
00:05:24
Speaker
Yeah, Tupperware is dangerous for that. We have like some sort of rice soup sort of thing, I think, that was prepared and one was going to be frozen or something, but we never froze it. And it was just lost in the back, right? Like this is high level fridge. There will be casualties when the party approaches. And I was looking at it and I was like, I think this is probably bad. Maybe I should open this up and smell it. And then I just saw the mold on the side and I'm like, I'm not.
00:05:52
Speaker
I'm not going to do that. And we're going to set this aside and have waste management take care of it. I, again, with like my bachelor college brain for a lot of like instinctual decisions, not necessarily everything else, but.
00:06:08
Speaker
my brain goes to like, it's in the fridge. Yeah, it's going to last. So like I recently I say recently, it's probably about a week. I got some chicken and I cut it up and I marinated it and put it in the fridge. Right. And I've used that chicken to cook with across the week. And I still had some left today and I cooked all of it.
00:06:30
Speaker
But at the same time, I know it's been X amount of time and I'm a little bit suspicious, but I'm like, it's in the fridge. It has to be good, right? Yeah. It's like you, you salted Buffalo, me and Oregon trail. Yeah. That's it's going to keep in the same way. If there's like a lot of sugar in something, I'm like, it's probably fine.
00:06:49
Speaker
Do you remember when I had that five pound bag of candy ginger? I do remember a lot of candy ginger, yeah. Two months, actually. I ended up throwing it out at a point, but I'm like, it's covered in sugar. It can't go bad. Yeah.
00:07:08
Speaker
I mean, I have my own grievances with ginger in general, but I think that's, I would agree. If you're putting white powder on something, it's gonna, it should keep, right? It's like you've got some salt. You can cover it in flour. You got some flour, bake it in there. Nose candy, any of that. Like just put it on the food, it's good.
00:07:31
Speaker
Is this a shaky parm? No, that's crack. This is quack. Cut to slice.
00:07:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. It was two day old pizza. That's what it was. It was not super fancy. It was Domino's. They apparently used to have Brooklyn style, but now they call it New York style. It's the same thing as far as I can tell.
00:08:01
Speaker
But if I'm getting Domino's I'm generally just gonna get like their garlic crust standard sort of thing because they put like a lot of effort into not having garbage crust like at one point in their history and it seems like that's the one thing they did. Like I should acknowledge that. They're trying, they're making an effort. Yeah exactly, exactly.
00:08:25
Speaker
I wish there was a deluxe pizza place in here though. There's a lot of like Italian joints and things like that. Uh, I get you. There's no, I get you. There's no, there's no nicks. There's no, this is a pierogi pizza. This is, you know, off low chicken. I fucking hate generic acid Hallian places. Yeah.
00:08:46
Speaker
Because they're so mid every time. Incredibly. Incredibly good. I'm like, oh, well, this seems like a decent price for a pizza or a salad, like some pasta. And they're like, here you go. We microwaved everything. Even the salad? Even the salad.

Pizza Preferences

00:09:00
Speaker
Especially the salad. But you can have something like, I don't think Nixon was a chain, right? It was just a. I don't believe so. If it was, then I never noticed. But it was a standalone location, as far as we know. And it was just a pizza joint.
00:09:14
Speaker
But like they made different types of pizzas and they made them well. Yeah. They had a cheesesteak pizza. They had the cheesesteak pizza I grew less fond of over time. It was interesting, though. Yeah. You given points for it being interesting. They had like a Mexican taco salad type pizza. What were some of the other ones? I know one of them had banana. Honey chicken. Honey chicken was so good. That was, I think, my favorite. That was the best one, yeah.
00:09:51
Speaker
It kind of is like a callback to like when you to get like a super greasy piece of Italian pizza from a place and you're like, all right, let's just like take napkins and just pad down on it a little bit. It's better not to know. It's better not to know. Hide that shit under, please. Yeah. Um.
00:10:07
Speaker
The Buffalo Pizza I liked, but you had to like, wring out your pizza slice each time.
00:10:15
Speaker
Yeah, it was fine. There's a place that's really close to us here that has what they call a pizza feast, which doesn't mean anything. But it's basically just like a pre fixed deal where you get one extra large pizza and I think it's like 18 inch or something. It's a big pizza. Like it struggles to fit in the refrigerator width wise. We have like a standard refrigerator.
00:10:41
Speaker
Um, and a two liter of soda and two, like not just side salads, but like good salads, like dressing separate, uh, like cucumber slices and a whole bunch of jazz and different types of like, uh, vegetables and stuff like that. Like they're nice salads. And the whole thing is like 25 bucks, but here's the kicker. That would be okay. That's like, it's not bad. It's definitely sounds really legit.
00:11:10
Speaker
Yeah, it actually is really legit, but here's the kicker. You also can get a side. If you have this deal, you can get like an add on for five bucks and the add on is like, it's like 10 to 12 wings, something like that. And it's just like $5 wings for like 12 bucks in checks. Watch 2024.
00:11:29
Speaker
That's so good. Are the wings good? They're pretty good. They're not like I'm not going to I'm not going to over. They could even be like standard fucking like they're better than average. If you imagine wings at a place, those are the wings. Yeah, like that would be fine for five bucks even. They haven't been like marinating in an inch of buffalo sauce and then just super dried out. And the only reason that they don't seem dried out is because they're just infused with sauce. Yeah, they're pretty good wings.
00:11:57
Speaker
And it's like, why have why have we not gone there? So we've it was a fairly recent discovery for us. It's also a one topping pizza. It's very specific. But the topping you can get is you can also just get extra cheese. So my wife, like just like cheese pizza. Right. So we're just like, OK, it's just going to be slightly better. It's a pretty good deal. I'll probably when when you're over next, I'll
00:12:27
Speaker
Uh, it's, it's that and I hop. Those are the two, two places I consider for that. And I hops a new restaurant. No, I'll have to, I have to give it a shot though. Salads are, Salads are legit.
00:12:44
Speaker
I need to find more local places. I'm like, Oh, I actually trust and like their food. There's one or two places within walking distance from like, this is consistent, but it's nothing. I'd be like, you have to try this. Yeah. I want to find a, I want something where I go each week and they're like, Hey, I'm right. Yeah. I'm back. You want to, I'm going to take you to the food. Yes. Where everybody knows you. And they're always glad.
00:13:14
Speaker
Please, please do not come and come. Thank you, Dave. I'm like, Oh, no, I know my name now. Yeah. You know, it's a good, you know, it's a good spot when everybody claps. All I want is some validation. Yeah. I don't think about food. That's fair.
00:13:41
Speaker
I don't know outside of the pizza if I've had anything too adventurous recently. No, it's mostly on rotation. I think the last adventurous thing is when we grabbed Indian. Yeah, it would have been the same for me. I still want to try the other Indian place that's downtown by me.
00:14:01
Speaker
Really enjoyed that. And I still owe you guys a meal as well. I've not forgotten. I did. I do not forget debts ever. Especially when I owe somebody something. But I will forget, somebody gave me my Tupperware back today. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Mentally, that was just out of sight, out of mind for way too long. And Tupperware is like, I'll buy more Tupperware.
00:14:31
Speaker
Right. I could be misremembering because this was like early Bible school stuff. But I, what I do remember was if you were to give someone something, you shouldn't do it as a loan. You're supposed to give it to them. But the on the opposite side, if you were given something, you're supposed to repay it seven times, which really makes.
00:14:59
Speaker
large sums of money, changing hands, infeasible rapidly, right? You're like, can I borrow a 10? You're like, yeah. Okay. I will pay you $70. Do you want to like cover dinner for us? It was a hundred bucks. Okay. I will pay you back $700. What costs the economic class? Was it like housing prices are great, but no, it wasn't actually religion. Damn. Who'd have thunk? Who'd have thunk?
00:15:29
Speaker
It's a it's not a bad concept I guess though it's it's like because it basically it boils down to be generous both ways yeah right like don't hold debts against your friends because that's I'm reading more into it than like it literally says but this is my life advice superimposed on a parable I guess or something but it's like I
00:15:56
Speaker
It's better for friendship if you can just part with it immediately, right? You're like, here's the gift. It's a gift. Don't worry about it in the future. But on the opposite side, when people are generous with you, it's good to reciprocate that generosity. Unless people take advantage of it. That's the part of the Bible verse. Maybe it doesn't sell you so much, but... Hey, but if this person's an asshole, maybe... Uh-huh.
00:16:20
Speaker
And you know, a little bit of practicality too, right? Cause you don't want to just give everything away of yourself. It's, you know, um, you remember the giving tree. It wasn't part of the Bible, but it's also a good book. Yeah. It's another, another nice parable. I think the parable of that one was don't be a tree. This sucks to be trees. I, if I'm like,
00:16:50
Speaker
letting somebody borrow something or like I'm giving something. I do not expect like, it doesn't need to come back to me, but if like two years down the line, I'm like, Hey, can I get that thing back? Right. I want that thing back then, but not as like a, you cannot have it back yet. Yeah. Like my one buddy, like I'm like, Hey, do you want to just like hold on my PS4 and games and like,
00:17:16
Speaker
So at no point in the near future am I expecting to get that back, nor do I want it back, right? This isn't like a leased contract thing. But if I were, let's say, going to move house and live somewhere else, I'd be like, hey, I know this is one of my things. Like, go to get that back so I know that I still have that thing. You kind of have like a communal group ownership type feel for it, but it still ultimately belongs to you.
00:17:45
Speaker
It just doesn't matter whether it's at your house or it's at your friend's house. Yeah. In that instance, whereas other times it's just like, oh, here. Right. Yeah. I think that's fair. It keeps people from just walking in and taking your things and leaving.
00:18:06
Speaker
Yeah, it's not something that comes up too much for me. I know some people have a lot of friends where they they'll ask for things or need things or all of that. I hear stories of such things occurring. I've never found myself necessarily in that situation. I think I'm surrounded by people who don't really want to ask for things or they don't need to, I guess, which is, you know, maybe just luck of the draw for them or whatever, but
00:18:36
Speaker
Yeah, I haven't had to do many seven times multipliers for things like that. Um, well, like perfect example is, uh, I think next weekend I'm out for a part of the day, but it's long enough where I'm like, somebody needs to let out the dog. Um, and thankfully, uh, there is a friend who's willing to do that and

Acts of Kindness and Reciprocity

00:19:01
Speaker
out of my thanks to them, besides just saying, thank you. Right. I want to like have something at my apartment as like either like a little gift bag or like there's sorry. Hey, you want these leftovers? They're your anything. Anything I can do would be like, hey, I appreciate what you're doing. Here's a gesture back in your direction.
00:19:22
Speaker
Because I think it's never fun to ask somebody for something. The perfect example is, oh, I need a ride to the airport. You don't want to put your friend out because of your friend. If they ask you, hey, can I get a ride to the airport? Be like, oh, yeah, of course. At least I think that's the general mentality that people have, where it's, I want to be nice to other people. I don't want to be an inconvenience to other people.
00:19:52
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's, that's fair. It helps take a little bit of the, it's a recognition that they're going out of their way to help you. Yes. To some extent with the symbol, it doesn't necessarily be like this is the equivalent value to however much gas and time you're expending for this. It's rather, I rec, I see. I recognize, I recognize, um,
00:20:16
Speaker
And it's better than just leaving your car at the airport until the battery dies. Hey, hey, I don't know. I didn't mean to call you out on that. Actually, that was a call out for me because I had done that in the past. Oh, really? Yeah.
00:20:31
Speaker
Well, I forget where I was coming back from, but a friend who we both know basically came to grab me from the airport and he looked at the car stuff and we went over to Walmart to grab a battery recharger and then that didn't do shit. We're like, they would just call the airport. Then they sent out somebody who had
00:20:57
Speaker
another battery charger, but it's like, it's been around for like 15 years type battery. You know where it's like, it's
00:21:03
Speaker
It was once a vibrant orange, but now it's just like covered in dust and dirt and has been around for so long. And it just immediately is like, Oh, your car's back. I was like, all right. Well, yeah. They, uh, they don't tell you, but maybe I had a flat tire. You know, I'm thinking about it. I can't remember anyways, regardless, keeping your car at the airport, something will always go wrong. Um, but yeah, they, uh,
00:21:31
Speaker
There are devices out there that are so much better at jumping like a car battery than another car sitting next to you hooking up cables. I realize like I think it's like bowling or maybe not golfing. There's another sort of thing where it's like it like everyone has an opinion that they think is correct when it comes to like jump starting a car.
00:21:56
Speaker
and like half of them are just straight up wrong. Not like it's gonna cause an explosion wrong, but more like I hooked up the cables, my car is on, go ahead, try to start it. Like that doesn't work. Like you need to like be revving the other engine for minutes and then you try to start it.
00:22:14
Speaker
And then there's just devices. There's magic. We have one of them. It's a USB portable charger. You can literally just plug it into like a wall and like charge it up a computer, whatever, you know, USB and bring out your laptop, like car, you could charge it like that. Now, it's not like.
00:22:31
Speaker
You're not taking the laptop energy to jumpstart the car, you're charging the device, but it's a little battery pack that just has enough charge to just

Car Maintenance Experiences

00:22:40
Speaker
jump a car. You turn it off, it's not turning back on. You have to have the alternator running, right? But it's like so reliable at just starting a car and it's just like, perfect. Nice. My referral code will be in the description of the episode.
00:23:00
Speaker
That sounds really convenient, because I do remember a time back when we used to live at the apartments where I came over to jump your car, or you came over to jump my car. It was probably my car, because my car had a lot of issues maintaining the charge for a time. But I think even then, I had to go on YouTube. I have the cables. They're somewhere in the trunk. But I do it so infrequently that I don't remember.
00:23:28
Speaker
Whereas if I need to change the tire, I could refigure that out in like 30 seconds. Here's the spare, here's the thing to lift the car. You need to have something to undo the nuts. I don't know if I have anything to undo the nuts currently in my vehicle.
00:23:51
Speaker
Well, let's just hope that never happens. Yeah, no, you should be good. I don't think bad things happen. To good people, right? You forgot to say to good people. I don't think bad things happen. This is a very long link because it has my referral code, but this is like, this is an example. It's not the exact one I have because it's been years. So the one I have is not probably for sale anymore.
00:24:19
Speaker
But it's a little baby, little battery pack. You just rest it on the charger. You don't have to get your car at a 90 degree angle or anything. You don't need another car at all. It's like about $50, $60 in this case. Such a good deal. Charge it with USB. It's magical. I do get kickbacks if anyone buys anything after listening. For every car charged, it gets a dime. Yeah.
00:24:50
Speaker
It would be really funny to actually just put an affiliate link or something like that there at the end, but I don't have one, so can't really fulfill the bit. Oh, one related story. Yeah, this was I had to be like 14, 15.
00:25:09
Speaker
I think I was with some friends and we're coming back from no. My dad was driving us back from church. I had a friend coming over. He also went to that church. He's like, Oh, we'll just come over for the afternoon hang out. And then there's also like an evening thing that we'd go to. So that's when we transfer the friend back. Return the child. Yeah. Return the child. But as we were leaving, like maybe a mile down the road, um,
00:25:37
Speaker
Like, the tire went out. And instead of my dad being like, I'll change the tire. Like, you guys sit tight for 20 minutes. My dad's like, hey, learning opportunity. Do this. So that stuck with me over time. Oh, yeah. I mean, I've had to do it multiple times since, but it was good practical knowledge. Oh, yeah. Were you switching it out for the spare tire? Yeah.
00:26:08
Speaker
I didn't realize until fairly late in my career of living that, uh, the spare tire is like nothing. It's like a bike tire. It's basically just, I think they don't want you doing more. Ooh, excuse me. 25 to 30 miles on it. Like it's supposed to get you to the mechanic and that's the only thing they want for it. Um, but I definitely have. Remember I was coming back from the beach. It was like a couple of states away.
00:26:38
Speaker
I was driving my old, this is the Dodge Neon I think, which if you remember the car at all, piece of shit. But I had a flat tire. I stopped at a gas station, wah-wah. I'm like, oh, I'll use their air pump to refill the tire. Right.
00:26:55
Speaker
Their air pump was broken and had a leak, so I only lost more air. Oh, no. I called to see what it'd be for like a tow, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I'm still early 20s. This can't be financially viable for me. So I changed the tire to the spare. Oh, no, I didn't. I didn't change it to the spare. I just rode the whole tire back on the highway for like another 90 miles.
00:27:26
Speaker
That's more severe. Don't do that. That was a terrible choice. Very unsafe. Yeah, that's definitely a little bit of a risk. It's better than my worst car story, though, because that one, like you could use the car after that, presumably, right? Like you didn't. Yeah, I was still around for a bit. Grind the axle down to anything. Yeah, I ruined my first car, which was a it's I think it was an early 90s Volvo.
00:27:57
Speaker
and stick shift and it was like, it wasn't excellent, but it was very reliable. There's a piece of advice. Like I know that's why people come to this podcast is for car advice that I'm pretty sure everybody already knows, but if not, hopefully I'm getting through right. We can, we can save someone tonight. Um, if the check oil light comes on.
00:28:23
Speaker
like don't drive the car anymore. It specifically, I think there is that one and then another one like check engine came on afterwards or something. Oh, no, no, no. It wasn't just check oil because check oil can happen after X number of miles. It was low oil.
00:28:42
Speaker
Do not drive the car after that. The reason I forgot is because I haven't seen it in a car since it occurred then. But I was like, I can just make it back home. And then black smoke started to come out of the car. And I was like, I'm really close to home now. I'll just cover my mouth with a remaining trip.
00:29:08
Speaker
And then it started to shake a bit and I'm like, I need to stop. And I had just like destroyed the transmission. Yeah. As it turns out.
00:29:19
Speaker
And I didn't know this to be 100% the case beforehand. Cars actually need oil. That they do. And it had a leak was what was happening. So it was losing oil over time. And I think I had filled it up at some point and I'd be like, okay, that's good forever. There was less now there's more.
00:29:41
Speaker
Can't explain that. But yeah, I just completely destroyed it and I had to to drive the family van from that point on until I got the Buick. So I'll be honest, I still treat my car the same way. It's like, it's like, hey, I need oil. I'm like, all right. Yeah. And then I'll give it some. Right. Just a taste.
00:30:07
Speaker
i'll let you wet your lips on this no more no more i will say a little bit of oil in for the car you take a big swig yourself you can have more when you're older uh-huh spews up black uh black tar uh-huh
00:30:26
Speaker
I will say I definitely am now past the point of using the correct oil for your car. Sure. Because it actually says the type of oil it takes. Yeah. So ideally, use that number. Uh-huh.
00:30:42
Speaker
I think you can still get away with using different types of oil. If it's like 3020 type deal, like it's not going to be a huge shift, but it's definitely not going to be as efficient. Yeah. But I've never I've never fucking put diesel in my car. I can say that much. Uh huh. I've avoided that debacle. I almost did like one time. And then I was like, I am really glad I didn't.
00:31:13
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's supposed to really fuck up your car. Yeah. I mean, the engine is not made for it. So you're going to have a bad time. Um, really people just need to like tell us these things. Yeah. I failed my first driver's test, like, or didn't get, didn't officially fail, but like got, I could not complete on it. And the difference was if you fail it, you can't take it again for like two weeks or something.
00:31:41
Speaker
Uh, but it could not complete. It means you can just schedule another one whenever, because after all of drivers training, nobody showed me where the e-brake was. What? That was the very first thing they asked. I had never thought of it. Cause I was like a 16 year old who like basically just processed what people put through my brain. Yeah.
00:32:05
Speaker
And I was like, I don't know. And he's like, I can show you where it is, but we're going to have to like stop the test. And I'm like, I got nothing. Stop the turn signal. You're feeling around and like kind of gauges reaction, like.
00:32:27
Speaker
No, not our finest moment, but then I passed the next time I took it because I knew where the emergency brake was. Thankfully, there's only one question on the test. Yeah, that was it. Really easy in the US. They're like, you have a gun? And I'm like, yes, sir. And they're like, here's your license.
00:32:47
Speaker
I know I've since around just talking about cars now. I feel like I've shared the story at some point. I don't know if it's here or not, but it was an e-brake related situation. That's right. Or maybe it's just brakes. But basically it was the winter I was living with a buddy and we were going to like our local Indian place, which is
00:33:11
Speaker
Like it was within walking distance, but because of the ice, oh, we'll just take the car. The natural natural response. The roads are dangerous. I don't want to be walking. I mean, it was like. I don't know. It was it was fine for the time, whatever it was on the way back, though. I think I needed to like break at a stop sign and I did. And then afterwards, like things felt really
00:33:40
Speaker
wrong. Yeah. So much so that I get it was difficult for me to pull into a spot at the parking lot. And I'm like, I don't know what's up, but it is fucking it is fucked. So basically, I got it towed the next day.
00:33:58
Speaker
And they're like, oh, we found out what was wrong. Your break thing got clamped on like it got stuck in the locked on position. Right. They're like, you're really lucky that it wasn't, you know, in the other position where it's just like, hey, you can't break. And they actually showed me a picture of it. And I mean, it's basically like a giant steel clamp. Yeah. But it was just cracked.
00:34:26
Speaker
It was just cracked in half. We lucked out on that one. We're both in Pennsylvania where they have like yearly inspections for cars. This is why it's beneficial to sometimes have
00:34:42
Speaker
an inspector that will actually tell you what's wrong. Instead of just doing the rubber stamp thing, I used to appreciate the rubber stamp more when my car was like garbage and no one would pass it if they had any regard for my personal safety. But now that my car is a little bit better, I'd like to know if the brakes are going to stop working. Yes.
00:35:05
Speaker
At this point, when I go to visit the mechanic for like a yearly inspection, I'll just be like, hey, whatever else, tell me. I can make a judgment call. But usually I'm like, oh, we can fix this and we can address this all now. OK, shotgun it. Give me that. Unfortunately, high bill. And then hopefully I want to do it again for a year.
00:35:27
Speaker
Right. It's like a doctor's visit. You know, it's like, do what you got to do and then don't talk to me for a year. Replace my blood and give me a new spine. Let's get out of here. My teeth feel sharper than usual. She's an angle grinder to make it all point to. I think I saw some characters that did that in the Blade series, so that makes sense. I think I say street sharks, but we want different directions. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah, there's supposed to be a blade video game coming out, right? Didn't they have that Marvel trailer or teaser? I forgot about it until you. Reminded me right now, but. That is an upcoming thing. Did it get leaked yet? Marvel's blade. No, it was shown at some thing where they're having trailers for games. Oh, well, it was it was kind of leaked. So the first information about it was because
00:36:25
Speaker
they had an internal roadmap documents. Maybe it's not leaked as much as I thought because people didn't know it was that game, but yeah. I just, if you're gonna have a Blade game, why don't you even have a driving segment? I don't know. I do not know.
00:36:44
Speaker
I mean, like, what else are you going to fucking use a roadmap for? They're fucking dumb sometimes. Oh, OK. All right. I see. All right. Yeah, I went back on it. I'm like, Jake's not picking up on my dumb joke. I got it. I'm just I'm reading the Wiki page. So yeah, it is kind of specifically the I mean, Blade is from Marvel, apparently. I didn't realize that. But yeah, this is this is kind of not necessarily the Wesley Snipes.
00:37:13
Speaker
Blade so much as Blade the character from Marvel. I don't know what the difference is between those two things, but it's not Spawn for some reason. Dude, I would love more Spawn content. Freaking Keith David's best voice, well I mean for anybody. I love Keith David. Spawn's so good.
00:37:38
Speaker
He's like, they had him as a character, and I think there's Mortal Kombat on the new ones, maybe the newest one. I think Spawn was in Mortal Kombat 11. That sounds right, yeah.
00:37:51
Speaker
Like excellent intro, all of these voice lines, just no nonsense. He's very much a mature rated both character and then just voice actor like the lines and stuff. He's just like, I just hate all of this. Not just like an edgelord though, he's just passed all of it. That's his character. It's just, spawn is an excellent character. There are several characters in comics and things like that where their whole deal is like, oh,
00:38:20
Speaker
I am opposed to God or the devil or whatever, right? Like, like the darkness and preacher and all that jazz. But like spawn is just so good. So I forgot about preacher. Mm hmm. That's actually going back to like letting people just borrow things. Half of my preacher collection is actually Dave's book. So that actually falls under a different category.
00:38:48
Speaker
where it's I have experienced a thing and I enjoyed it and I don't have any more use for it. Like I'm not going to go back and read something. Maybe I will, but it's very unlike me and I'd rather just give it to somebody who might.
00:39:07
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Which by the way, I still have like the hardcover collection of Scott Pilgrim that I never planned to read again And I just want to give to somebody who's like I like Scott Pilgrim or I've never seen that that seems cool. Like yeah, here you go. Uh-huh
00:39:22
Speaker
He may already have it, but I know Ian's a pretty big Scott Pilgrim fan. I know he has the books. I don't know if he has the hardcover ones, but I think he does have the full collection. That was one of the only series I actually like. I never really keep up with any media that other people engage with. It makes social situations sometimes difficult to navigate.
00:39:45
Speaker
Here's the show. Here's an anime. I'm like, that is a show that is an anime. Um, that is a book. Um, but Scott Pilgrim, I actually, I, I had read that one before the movie came out. Really? I believe if I remember correctly and it's like, it was really enjoyable. I enjoyed it. My first exposure was the movie, which I love to watch several times. Um,
00:40:11
Speaker
almost in a row for some of them. But then I was like, Oh, I should maybe look up the actual thing it's based off of. And then I did. And I'm like, Oh, I like this. So I just got the rest. Yeah, it's good. It's not perfect. But I mean, it's also a story about adolescent teenagers. So if it was perfect, it almost kind of would have seemed off in its own way.
00:40:33
Speaker
but i just i really like scott doesn't care you're just a good cool guy yeah just my take uh-huh uh-huh that's such a good like life lesson though right because scott is a douchebag yeah like absolutely
00:40:52
Speaker
How he treats some of the people that are close to him is just not good But he's a likable douchebag and that's why

Lessons from Scott Pilgrim and Aphantasia

00:41:00
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he gets away with so much stuff Yeah, and he does develop some character growth over time. He does. Yeah But yeah, he's still very much an asshole I think in the movie he ends up Scott Scott Pilgrim spoilers. I think in the movie he ends up with with Ramona Yes, actual end
00:41:22
Speaker
And I think like there was some other in the book. He ends up with knives. He does. Yeah. Um, but like, I feel like someone, it was either the author or something. There was some like alternate ending where he basically ended up with no one. I think there was like another ending that was created for it.
00:41:40
Speaker
And like that was the one that seemed the most correct basically to his character because it wasn't like an ends up with no one and is depressed forever. It was more like, I sure spend a lot of time chasing women just to treat them poorly once they're with me. Yeah. Um,
00:42:06
Speaker
I don't know. It's, it's a, it's because of that, it's kind of a good life lesson because I like that he's a empathetic protagonist and then you just kind of get the glimpses that the story is really being told from his perspective. And you're like, it's actually not super okay that he treats everybody like this. And knives is just like absolutely too pure for him, but that's the way it is.
00:42:35
Speaker
Man, you go back and check out some comics and stuff. Yeah. It's been too long. It's a little, it's, I don't have the attention span for it is my problem. Like I need to finish the Preacher series. I would like to, and it's pretty much at the top of my list of things to read. That is not one of the edit already dedicated novels or something like that. It's on my list of things to read.
00:43:04
Speaker
But it's very difficult for me to be like, I have free time. I'm not going to do some yard work, play a video game, like just goof off or whatever. Like it's. It's tough to fit like recreational actual paperback reading or hardcover reading. Yeah.
00:43:26
Speaker
It definitely feels like a FOMO type moment. When I have all this very active media where I can listen to music and play a game, hello brain engagement versus just text.
00:43:43
Speaker
Which is one of the reasons why I am and probably other people are drawn to comics because you have that visual component. Oh, yeah. Which makes it more engaging. And it's you don't have to constantly imagine things as you're translating the text into your brain. Mm hmm. By the way, I think we talked about this once off, but there is a friend of mine who has
00:44:10
Speaker
I forget what it's called. But they cannot picture things in their mind. OK. They have no visual imagination. Yes. So basically, if they were to think of me, they would think of attributes in a list to be like, oh, this is what he looks like, how tall he is, type stuff like that. This is how his voice sounds. But he can't picture somebody's face.
00:44:41
Speaker
Is it Anna Fantasia? Yes. Aphantasia. Aphantasia. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and apparently some of the people in his family had it, but he didn't know that he had it until like four months ago when he's having a conversation with somebody. Um, but yeah, like that's something where if you had that condition, I imagine that, um, reading would be,
00:45:06
Speaker
a lot less fun. Oh, yeah, just because on paper. Because where does that where does that go? I don't know what that translates into, if not.
00:45:15
Speaker
that kind of imagine a sphere space. Yeah, I think that people and I could be wrong because I'm not an expert in anything, let alone this. But I think if something is like super descriptive, you can register them as being factually true. Right. It's like the green haired detective with his rocker boy outfit broke into the bar and laid somebody out with like a uppercut or something like that. You're like, OK.
00:45:45
Speaker
I understand the facts of everything that happened, but I just described that and people may have just seen it in mental picture, you know, in their head, but people who have aphantasia don't get that mental picture. They could just be like, yeah, I just knocked somebody out. But that you do get like less, I guess, invested in it or like brought into the fiction. Hmm. It's interesting.
00:46:09
Speaker
as many things are, as you know from my time. Yeah. I don't think I realized how much I do that on a day to day basis for literally everything. Like it's not like you're constantly just visualizing stuff, but you'll think about things and there's usually a visual
00:46:32
Speaker
component with it, or it's very hard to describe because it's not something that you can physically perceive. Yes. I cannot perceive it. Nobody else can perceive it. But it's like if you close your eyes and think about a red balloon, you could be like, yeah, that's a red balloon. Right. You hear the song. There's a lot of them.
00:46:59
Speaker
There was a description I heard recently of someone who had blindness and for the person it was like they described being in areas they weren't commonly in as like a it was more like a void because they didn't have
00:47:20
Speaker
and understanding of their space. You feel less comfortable in it, obviously, because you just don't have this intrinsic understanding. You don't know where to expect where things are and stuff.
00:47:32
Speaker
And I mean, like, that would be obviously very disconcerting. So hats off to people who get through that. Hats off to blind people. Yeah, exactly. They won't see the gesture. I've taken my hat off. Have you ever done that as an experiment? Just like walk around with your eyes closed or something? Yeah. Like a couple of times. Not a fair number though. Very, very infrequently throughout my life.
00:48:01
Speaker
It's been a while since I've tried it, but it's usually like, oh, if I'm in the shower, I would just finish washing my hair. And let's say my head's under the shower and there's water dripping down my face. I don't want to go in my eyes. I keep my eyes closed. I'm like, let's play a game called. Let's see how far I can get with my eyes still closed. Because I know where the shower curtain is right next to me. I can feel for that. My towel's going to be in the same place it always is.
00:48:26
Speaker
dry myself off. But then you start to feel around for context clues like, oh, this is the molding of the door. This is this part of the hallway. Kind of similar to how if you're just like, you wake up in the middle of the night, you're like, I got to find the bathroom to piss or I got to find the fridge to get water. You don't want to turn a light because you'll either blind yourself or wake somebody up.
00:48:46
Speaker
So yeah, you very much rely on that location context. But as you're going, you're kind of visualizing, OK, the light switch is here. There's probably this many steps until this next thing. But you still have your arms out in front of you, so you don't, like, hit something. Die is part of this test, yeah. No, it's, yeah. In the times that I've tried it, I've realized I'm really bad at it. And mostly, I kind of underestimate. I rely a lot on visual perception of the world.
00:49:18
Speaker
You should try while driving. It's intense. That's advanced. That's hard mode, yeah. I posted a picture in our shared chat here of aphantasia, which is basically the top result if you were to search for it. So if you Google along at home, you'll probably also see this red cardinal.
00:49:43
Speaker
Um, but it's, it's a scale where some people perceive things in this case, the Cardinal with like lifelike perfect detail. Other people perceive it with slightly less detail or slightly less detail, or perhaps it's just like an outline of the thing with some color, a blurry sort of sort of a visualization. And then all the way at the bottom one, nothing, there is no bird. Um,
00:50:14
Speaker
And it's interesting to think about it, because I mean, like, I don't think of things in lifelike detail. It's definitely closer to like a three. I was going to say, maybe high three to four for me. It's like I could, if I close my eyes, I could picture anybody I know. It would be hard for me to describe them in a way that would actually convey how they look, but I could be like, oh, this is so and so. Right.
00:50:44
Speaker
I could separate people into categories. Beards, no beards. White, I only know white people. I don't think that's strictly true. Jay has a much less complicated version of guess who. Are you a bearded white or a non-bearded white? It would be difficult to describe someone's facial structure.
00:51:15
Speaker
See, if I were to describe you, I'd be bearded, Jewish. That's all I got. I'm just saying, he looks Jewish. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. I'm not saying it's bad. One of my close friends is Jewish. There's some telltale signs. That's all I'm saying. It is Dave. Dave is the closest friend who's Jewish. Yeah. No, I'd be really bad at that. That is a completely undeveloped skill, being able to describe people.
00:51:45
Speaker
I don't think many people really have. Uh-huh. But even like, let's say you could describe it pretty well. There's no way in shit that the other person is going to be able to take your good description and then take that information into the same picture. Right. Because you're basically playing a very complicated version of telephone or like whisper down the alley. It's true. Where it's a piece of information, but you're missing some context or gets misinterpreted along the way.
00:52:15
Speaker
And they're very different skills, right? Like the ability to describe something vividly in a way that another person would understand it. And the ability to interpret that information are completely different, right? Like going back to reading, there are, I know it's just a shortcut and maybe it's not the best one, but like if I'm reading fantasy or something like that, I recognize names more than I actually read names.
00:52:43
Speaker
Um, some, I think this is probably because when my first fantasy novels was wheel of time and the, I believe she's blue. I said, I, uh, and also the phrase I said, I, um, is named more rain, I think based off the audio books. And as a teenager, I'm not figuring out how to pronounce more rain. Um,
00:53:09
Speaker
That was just hard mode, so I started to not pay as much attention. But I realized if I'm reading the series that someone else has read, I don't know what the characters are named, even though I could recognize it on the page. I'm just like, ah, Ginger Lad. Yep, yep, that's not it. So if you're going to watch an episode of a TV show you haven't watched in three weeks, you'd be like, I know who this person is. I just don't know the name.
00:53:38
Speaker
I think if it was a TV show, I would know because I've heard it phonetically. Okay. But if I read it, I, a lot of times I'm not keeping track of people's names. I just recognize them when I'm reading the book. If that makes any sense. Like I'm not hearing context based. Yeah. Cause I'm just reading the words on the page and that's where the recognition happens. That's where I tie it to the character. I don't necessarily.
00:54:05
Speaker
read like Jameson Steele and I in my head I'm like I exactly know how Jameson Steele is pronounced it sounds like a name from like a romance novel the sort of thing and clearance at the uh at the library but um anyways reading's fun recommend it uh second opinion uh
00:54:31
Speaker
I mean, it can be, but I honestly, it's been so long since I've read, read something because at a certain point I'm like, oh my God, there's a fucking cheat called audio books back when they were just on like cassette tapes. Yeah. I remember I think we got it from the library because we got so many different forms of media from the library because like we did not grow up
00:54:58
Speaker
Like we were fine. I wasn't fine. Um, but my parents were not throwing around money. So like we go to the library and get movies, we get CDs, we get, uh, other stuff. Um, and an audio book, I remember sticking with me for a while, uh, was Brian Jacques's Redwall. Okay.
00:55:18
Speaker
Are you familiar? I'm not. Probably a little bit dated now. I think it's for young adults, like early teens. The left behind. Yeah. Young adult books. Ooh. I'd say that this is around Animorphs-ish maybe. OK. OK. That's right. But it is a fantasy setting, but everything there is with woodland creatures. Gotcha.
00:55:44
Speaker
So you might have a squirrel as a character, or a chipmunk. An evil character might be like a...
00:55:53
Speaker
The fox or a badger, some sort of predator. Yeah, like they're all like woodland animals. And I granted this was very early on to my fantasy stuff. But to me, it was really cool to see like I knew of fantasy. I'm like, oh, you know, hero, sword, dragon, princess, wizard, all that stuff. But it was put in a different context of, hey, let's apply it to what these wooden creatures were in a world such as that.
00:56:23
Speaker
And that connected a dot for me. I'm like, Oh my, we can, we can cross do stuff. We can do, we can mix and match things. Yeah. There's a, uh, there's an age where that becomes possible too, where it's like fantastical elements, like animals exhibiting human traits and behaviors and things like that. Isn't just like absurd.
00:56:46
Speaker
But you can kind of just accept that these are characters in the story rather than before that age. It's like pigs don't talk. That's stupid. Why is the pig talking? That's not the way the world works. I reject that. Right. A lot of kids did not grow up understanding animal farm the first time around. Also true. But maybe maybe different in that case.
00:57:14
Speaker
Um, hold on. Sure. Counter argument. Charlotte's web. Yeah.
00:57:21
Speaker
The one the one that I recommend that I I did listen to the first on audiobook is Red Rising Not familiar. What's that? That's that's that Ian recommended it Zach recommended it But it's it's a really good I'm trying to make sure not to spoil anything. That's not literally the preview for the book but it's a
00:57:49
Speaker
I guess you could call it sci-fi, but character driven story about a stratified society where different people are different colors. Yeah. Hold on. This is literally real life. It's like, no, it's the, they literally have a color association like to their, not just genetics and skin color and stuff like that, but like red are workers, gold are administrators, stuff like that.
00:58:19
Speaker
And

Book Recommendation: Red Rising

00:58:20
Speaker
so it's all stratified and the story follows a red worker who is working to basically extract resources that are necessary to terraform Mars and make it livable. And this last part I specifically remember is in the preview. So even though it is a spoiler, it's in the preview for the book. It's like at the very back or whatever, whatever the opposite of the front cover is.
00:58:46
Speaker
But the realization after a point that Mars has already been terraformed and they're still working and then everything that comes afterwards excellent excellent hook for for a fantasy series and it's it's a really good read it falls right on the edge between like
00:59:13
Speaker
This is something that is primarily aimed at adults and also kind of like later teens and stuff like that. So it's not like, it's not Game of Thrones. It's not, you know, soft core anything or in Game of Thrones case, maybe hardcore some things, but, um, it's also definitely not just aimed at children. So.
00:59:36
Speaker
It's a really good read, and it's a long series that's basically broken into two, I think, two or three separate arcs. So you have a checkpoint where you're like, I'm good for now. I can take a break. And that's where I'm at. Nice. They also have, I was mentioning the, what did I say? I said Ginger Lad or something like that. They have Irish accents.
01:00:03
Speaker
and the audiobook for the first one, which makes it so much more listenable. It's actually one where I recommend listening to it rather than reading it. It's very cool. Very cool. I should start taking longer road trips again, because in the same way we're talking about just sitting down and reading a book, I can't just sit down and listen to an audiobook. Right. I would be doing something.
01:00:29
Speaker
Yeah. But I feel like I would be distracted with a video game. Yes. Whereas if I'm driving, I'm on driving focus type, a little bit of autopilot because you do it so frequently, you know how it works. You're kind of paying attention to the road. But I could still consume that audio information. Yeah.
01:00:50
Speaker
That's fair. The last really big series we listened to while driving was Twilight. Actually, when I moved to Pennsylvania and it is funny, it is a humor humor series. If you hear that in audiobook because you cannot rationalize the words on the page as meaning anything anymore, someone has to literally say it and that breaks any illusion of
01:01:17
Speaker
anything, any kind of like meaning or realistic nature to it. That's just, it's so good. Yeah. Life experience. Listen to Twilight with one other person. Anyways, that's this month in gaming. We covered, we covered all of it. I don't think anything else happened. Uh, play destiny with me next week. If you're, if you're out there.
01:01:49
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, we will definitely talk about, uh, more actual game stuff, uh, next week, probably some more stuff that came out on game paths, uh, some recent events or trailers PlayStation state of play probably come up and maybe some other things that have happened in the following week. Final shape on Tuesday. Let's go. Let's go right on Friday. Let's go. It's going to be an adventure.
01:02:15
Speaker
Are you good to record on Friday? We just move it just to interrupt as much as possible. I'm over here recording. I have a spreadsheet, Dave. I have a spreadsheet people have signed up on. They've marked whether they have good weapons in all these various categories, how many times they're willing to run it, things like that. Do they want to clear that weekend? Are they good with the clear the following week? I am categorizing information. It would be so funny. If I myself did not purchase it.
01:02:43
Speaker
Thanks for that information. Here you go. Good luck. Bye. Goodbye. I'm just playing like oblivion. It would be funny. Oh, well. Well, if you want to join our static, you can send in your applications. Soapstone podcast at gml.com or join the discussion on Facebook. We would never play destiny with anyone there, but Facebook.com slash soapstone podcast. And as always, we'll see you in the next one.
01:03:13
Speaker
Have a good night!