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Spurs finally happy to BOTTLE it! Live reaction to a potential title decider
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Stuck between a rock and a hard place: Spurs fans weigh a Champions League place against rivalry ⚽🔥 Plus, dive into the debate: Who truly holds the title of the greatest football manager of all time? 🏆
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Introduction of Hosts
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, it's Killian Ginnity and joined us everybody. Nathan Byrne and Connor Glennon, gentlemen, how are we doing live from the Not Upon The Towers where we are watching the Man City game?
Premier League Season & Spurs Hope
00:00:31
Speaker
it's it's a it's a sad time of the year i suppose with the Premier League coming through a close but it's uh it's been an interesting season and by god i am preying onto this Spurs winning this but uh i don't know about i don't know if Nate's the same yeah i love the Spurs winning it it teed up for Iceland to throw away the last day which would be beautiful um but yeah i'm doing well here you're gonna
00:00:54
Speaker
Oh, I'm great.
Arsenal vs. Tottenham Rivalry Discussion
00:00:55
Speaker
I have to say, shocked with this whole discourse between Arsenal fans and Tottenham fans and wanting to lose, we're actually going to just very quickly listen to Ange Pastacoglio's reaction to whether or not Tottenham fans want them to lose so that Arsenal can't win the title.
00:01:12
Speaker
Proportion of your fans won't want you to win this game How do you feel about that and the potential atmosphere it might create a proportion of our fans? What does that mean? What proportion? What 50% 20% 1% just give me a rough estimate in your mind So let's let's answer a question we don't know the answer to But there's a pretty simple
00:01:41
Speaker
notion to this there's a game of football tomorrow night what do you think is going to happen what do you think we are going to do as a team or any team on this planet are we going to just try and win it's a simple basic premise now how that makes people feel I'm not really fast I don't really care
Fan Sentiments vs. Playing to Win
00:02:02
Speaker
I'd hate to think that anyone thinks that we would go out there tomorrow night with anything other than trying to measure ourselves against a top team and maybe win a game of football that's consequential. How are we ever going to become a team that wins things if we don't win the big games, if we shy away from it? So why would we shy away from a challenge tomorrow night that exists?
00:02:26
Speaker
Look, I get it. And look, you know, your straw pole of Arsenal fans, if it's correct, then we're going to walk out to 50 percent of boos and 50 percent of cheering tomorrow night.
Rivalry vs. Champions League Qualification
00:02:36
Speaker
But I think that's highly unlikely.
00:02:39
Speaker
Nate, we had a very spicy chat before going live here. Do you understand this kind of reported feelings amongst Tottenham fans that they would rather lose than see Arsenal being a better opportunity of winning the league? Yeah, I do. No fan wants to see their rivals win the league. To be honest, I think Andrew's actually a bit tone deaf there a bit.
00:03:09
Speaker
it's like like him saying like oh I don't really care what Annie thinks in terms of going out there to win it's like I think you're sort of downplaying how big the rivalry actually is and I think that's probably a
00:03:26
Speaker
something that the Spurs fans won't like but yeah I'm 100% for Spurs fans feeling the way that they do and not wanting Arsenal to win the league. But it's going to cost them Champions League football like what would you rather see them on the European stage or Arsenal win a title that they're inevitably going to win because they're the only team putting up the city?
00:03:46
Speaker
Just kidding. One season of our Champions League doesn't notch up to a whole history of the clubs. This is years and years and years and years and years of rivalry.
00:04:00
Speaker
that the red side will get another one up on the white. So I 100% see it. But I'd love to know if the Spurs fans that say this position, they're in the exact same position next year and the year after that.
00:04:17
Speaker
three years no champions league is that better than you're you're stuck in the way europa league and he called it the way for cop crisis and then make the ffp implications the recruitment implications
00:04:32
Speaker
There's a time where, if it's a one-off, as more time goes on, before we hopped on, I think I was more so of the, you'd definitely be fighting for it, but I think when we put it in the context of Sunderland and Newcastle for myself and Killian, I think it's slightly different in the fact that neither of us have won the Premier League before, so I couldn't face C and then win it.
Sports Rivalries & Fan Experiences
00:05:01
Speaker
you know if new castle won the primary before son of one of four it's it's less of a thing you know. I think such a small club mentality if you're it is not it is like is it though is absolutely so it's such an inferiority complex i'd rather drag you down and see like the media well cuz if i'm doing bad i'd rather you do bad with me like.
00:05:26
Speaker
That's football. We might as well get rid of rivalries then. No, no, no. No, it is though. No, it's about I want to do better than you. I want to do better than you. Not, oh, I want to lose so that like you can not win. I don't want to see you not win the title. I don't know why that. I find it very simple in my head.
00:05:47
Speaker
If I put it up to Liverpool in the title, I would be the exact same. I'd be like, no, no, no. You'd rather not have Champions League football.
00:05:57
Speaker
Yes, I genuinely I've had to go through this season again. The Liverpool win the title. No, no, the only thing about that is just again, like Connor, like you were saying with the difference in Newcastle and Sunderland having not neither have won, but like you're so used to being in the Champions League and your season is a
Social Media's Impact on Fan Sentiment
00:06:17
Speaker
write off at United. So it's kind of like. Relatively inconsequential a year out where it's like Tottenham
00:06:27
Speaker
They're still not a Champions League team. They're not a team that you're expecting to be there every year. They might be there once every two or three years. Yeah. To be honest, I know this kind of was only a straw poll or whatever, but this is being judged off social media. And who is the most active fans on social media? Arsenal. And is this a very embarrassing thing for Tottenham? Yeah. Putting my little tin foil hat on, maybe this is Arsenal saying more about Tottenham than it is Tottenham about Tottenham.
00:06:57
Speaker
I don't know. I've seen some. We've talked to fans saying they did Ship 5 today to say I feel that weird. But yeah, I can't get past that. We're all huge fans of our clubs. It's more of a history thing than it's like how long the club's been around.
00:07:19
Speaker
I'm like, they're one of the biggest rivalries in world football. Do you know what I mean? On that though, I saw a thing from Jamie Carragher, speaking of kind of like those, it's not even like a...
00:07:32
Speaker
So under the new castle, we're talking like a same city rivalry here, but like in the Tottenham Arsenal one, but Jimmy Carragher said, I grew up in a city with a similar rivalry, and if the shoe was on the other foot, I think Arsenal fans would be exactly the same. So I've got absolutely no problem with any Tottenham supporter not wanting to win this game.
00:07:53
Speaker
Arsenal have won the league twice at Tottenham, that I kind of forgot. And then he goes on to say, they won at 1971 in 2004. If Tottenham win here tonight, Arsenal have won the league at Tottenham's ground, they just have. Thank you. Yeah, I think it's up so perfectly. It's like, they like,
00:08:15
Speaker
If they lose today, which I think they will, that also opens up so much banter on the Arsenal side. I sort of feel bad for Tottenham because they're in a lose-lose situation, but to me winning the game is...
Emotional Nature of Football Fandom
00:08:35
Speaker
Yeah. It's such a unique situation and it kind of just sums up the madness of football, you know?
00:08:41
Speaker
I'm just going to refer to two tweets from a gentleman that we all know, Alan Cauley. Big friend of the pod. Absolutely. We love Alan Cauley. His son is a Spurs fan, so he's a
00:08:57
Speaker
He's kind of a Spurs fan at this stage. And he was saying, what kind of supporter wants their team to lose when they still have a chance of top four at Champions League? And then about the match itself, how flat is the atmosphere on their team that started brilliantly? Them Spurs fans not cheering them on and wanting them to win.
00:09:18
Speaker
I love Alan, but I think it's a bit of a not fully in that situation type tweet, you know what I mean? Like, he's not there feeling, in my opinion, feeling ahead the Spurs fans are feeling, where, like, that's if we lose, like, Arsenal could win the title, you know what I mean? Like, that's such a big thing, and such a, like, ultimately affects the history of the group, Tottenham-wise as well, so.
00:09:44
Speaker
One thing I don't know about you lads, like I loved Pastor Cagliu's reply to the reporter because he really kind of took him at the knees. Yeah it's proper football, like that's going again. I kind of get told that lads. See I, but I wonder though, this is my question to you boys, love the reply thing, it was the perfect reply in my opinion. Do you think it was rehearsed or that was just off the curve, that's who I chose. That would be your answer.
00:10:13
Speaker
I think that's who Ange is. I think he, I, to be honest, with, if you look at Ange's six, he have got a goal. Um, Harland tipped it over the line. And if you look at pasta Cagliu's kind of career, he's always brought teams to be better than there were other than Celtic, but even then he kind of solidified them into being what they are expected to be. I think that.
00:10:40
Speaker
not even acceptance but the willingness to be mediocre would frustrate somebody like him and he's a straight shooter and we've said it many times in the pod that like he takes no bullshit and I think that's that
00:10:53
Speaker
that whole ethos is just summed up in his answer, kind of going, why would we not want to win? Because like, in the same press conference, he said, why, why would I take heart in the fact that the last time I was, the last time we played City, we lost. Like his record is only one loss against City, but he's only played them once. So like, yeah, I think it's I think it's just embarrassing from Spurs fans. And I think Ange just needs to teach them to grow up.
Managers' Role in Club Rivalries
00:11:24
Speaker
lads i have a real issue with and this has happened a bit you know everything i know pull them up on it sometimes i have an issue with managers playing down rivalries because i feel like someone will do it on purpose and i i don't know about you but when i when i'm a manager i want him to
00:11:45
Speaker
to sort of be like a fan. I want to realize the magnitude of playing certain teams and the occasions and stuff like that. And what I got from that interview is he was, I think one of the lines was like, I don't really care. I was like, you should care. Like, I think, I think he does care. I think he cares. I think he cares is like a, like he's a football, not he's a football purist. I think,
00:12:11
Speaker
I do like his attitude of we need to just go out there and be able to beat the big teams and that's our job and if we're gonna go before it as a club that's we have to do but I do think you're right though like I mean I love nothing more than a hard on the sleeve manager I think I speak for us all in that regard I think you know there's certain rivalries that outweigh others like you know obviously
00:12:32
Speaker
United Liverpool, biggest rivalry there, you know, 15 years ago, Arsenal was right up there. You know, Arsenal United was back in the keen Viera days was absolutely huge. And that's waned. And I don't really judge any of the United managers of past and present for that. But I think, yeah, there is those core rivalries that you have to respect as a manager, but there's also ones that kind of fall off.
00:12:55
Speaker
and to be honest it doesn't like, and he doesn't put me up in this or whatever, but it doesn't fit, I always say that before I say so. He doesn't seem enthralled in Tottenham, like when I look at Andrew I'm not going like okay you're gonna be here for years and years. I don't think he, and like maybe this is on purpose, maybe it's not, but he doesn't seem to be enthralled in the club in the way that
00:13:21
Speaker
I'd expect managers to be. And maybe that's just because of the club eye support and orders. Even thinking of Connor and Eddie Howe, he seems like a proper... He's there for Newcastle. He's fully involved. And he was the same with Bournemouth. Yeah. I want a manager when they come in to basically be another fan. But
00:13:45
Speaker
Do you not like you know, I totally I totally get you like I mean they're my my only thing is I think
00:13:53
Speaker
Is that a strength of Anj, not in the, kind of with the fans side of that, but I mean, more just, is he more clinical about how he's operating compared to, like, if you get too emotional in this game, making your decisions can go the wrong way for you and that can spell an exit quicker and yeah, the fans taught you were one of them, but they'll move on when, you know, the next person comes in. And I think, see the thing with Anj is,
00:14:22
Speaker
If, if he isn't going to be a Spurs man, like where else? Like I don't see him at another primarily club really. I don't know about you kill.
00:14:30
Speaker
To be honest, I think it's more a symptom of Tottenham, because there's only one manager in living memory that has had that kind of relationship with them, which is Pochettino. And even then, it was not as cuddly as other clubs. I think it's just that's how Tottenham is. I think they're very London, like modern London in that sense, where they're, I don't know, I always just kind of got the vibe of business.
00:14:53
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I think that comes from the top. That comes from Daniel Evey. Yeah. Like look how they've thrown away managers over the past 15 years. So like, if you look at, uh, one day Ramos, um, Redknapp, AVB, Merino, like they, they use them. So why would Anj get too comfortable? I do think that's just, I do think that's kind of, uh, not systematic. I think that's, uh,
00:15:20
Speaker
just kind of where the league is out right now. Cause even when you go through, like, you know, I heard Gary Neville talking about the fact that 10 hikes should, should possibly stay. When you look at the managers that have been turfed out over the last 10 years, like the churn rate of Premier League clubs at the top, at the top end of the table is frightening.
00:15:38
Speaker
Yeah, but that's the aim of the game though, like, in terms of like, I understand why we're at that period now, because the money's so big and like, to be honest, I lack a bit of empathy when it comes to that, because like, let's be real, managers these days get a good payoff. So it is, it's a high risk, high reward game. But
00:15:58
Speaker
The thing with Ange is, I think some of it is just his personality. It seems it's serious trouble here, but we're sorry to cut across you now, but Jesus, he is screaming. He's a very pale man, so he goes very red, very easy. Oh, no, he looks in trouble. What is that? Okay, he comes in from the... Oh, that's a hammy. Yeah. That's a hammy. We can't catch a break, any.
00:16:25
Speaker
Yeah, no, there's something popped there. This looks like it could be the beginning of the end of De Bruyne at the top level. I think we see him kind of- Oh, geez, oh, he's in trouble, boys. We have to enter Miami.
00:16:37
Speaker
Yeah, he'll be unfortunate in the sense like like he's just gonna he'll probably get 10 or 15 games a year now It's gonna just constantly go well his levels have dropped. I'm gonna be wrong He's still an unbelievable player and the fact he's not won a player of the month of the Premier League ever is Just mental but I kind of love the shit house for you that possibly the greatest midfielder the Premier League's ever seen doesn't guess Doesn't get a player of the month, but sorry. Sorry to interrupt you there Just on and so I do think that he
00:17:08
Speaker
And it's kind of one of the things I love about him is he kind of, as I say, he has no bullshit, but like, it kind of comes across that this is his job. Yeah, but that's one of the things I hate about him. I think that's where we're different is I wouldn't want him anywhere near my club because I don't think he would garner that level of mixing with the fans. And I'm not saying like he's not like,
00:17:34
Speaker
like trying to do that or whatever, but I just don't get that vibe off them. And like even thinking back to old, you know, managers like your Reno, Van Hal, it's like, even when we interact with these managers nowadays, it's like, it's like you're seeing an old dad, you know what I mean? Where to see and just like,
00:17:51
Speaker
It does feel like just another stepping stone talking those from, you know what I mean? I agree with you. And from the outside, it looks like that. But what I wonder what's what's bigger for him? Like, does he think he can be united in Liverpool like a what? I don't think he sees it as a stepping stone. I think he's just kind of going, I'm just going to do this for as long as I'm here.
00:18:15
Speaker
I don't think he looks particularly beyond it. I don't think he can expect to be a Tottenham so soon after joining Celtic.
Ange's Connection to Tottenham & Career Goals
00:18:24
Speaker
So I think he just kind of takes it as it comes and a part of that is where you're renting a house, he hasn't bought it yet. Let me ask this, do you think he's thrilled to be a Tottenham?
00:18:39
Speaker
I think he's surprised. Is anybody thrilled to be on Tottenham? Jokes aside though, I don't know. I think he, he's, I don't think he ever thought he'd get to the Premier League and I think he would have taken any club in it. And so, you know, I think, so in, to your point Nate, is he all bought in on Tottenham? No, because if that had been, if that had been Everton, you know, he just wants to be a, not, this makes him sound callous, but like, I think he just,
00:19:09
Speaker
As a manager coming from Australia to be a Premier League manager is pretty unheard of. And I think if you'd really said to him, even I think he would have thought Celtic was the biggest he'd get. Well, like I brought him back on the pitch. Jesus. He's limping bad though.
00:19:26
Speaker
The thing I don't get is, okay, he's coming to Tottenham and I'm only speaking how I feel. The Tottenham fans can be over the moon when I'm in love with them and this and that, but it feels very cold. Even with Ted Hager, I feel like he's tried with the fans. The fans have tried with him. There's mutual love there, even though things are going terribly.
00:19:50
Speaker
Is it just a personality thing though? He may feel it and we saw the way he was with the fans of the fan forum and he's embraced defending Tottenham's honour and maybe he's just different personality wise that he may be dancing around his living room every day before training but he just comes in as a relatively cold operator.
00:20:18
Speaker
To be honest, I think this just comes down to expectation. Like, united, you expect somebody that's going to live for the club because that's what you have had. Tottenham haven't had that, so I don't think they expect it. So like when you're not getting that kind of affection from the fans, it's not going to encourage you. And when you're realistic about the Premier League,
00:20:42
Speaker
you're not going to do it. You're not going to put yourself out there either. So I think this is just modern day football. He is the big ass avocado of management for Tottenham. I'm here to do the job and I'm going to do it as good as I can.
00:20:59
Speaker
I think he wants to move it on because he just seems to want to win rather than being paycheck driven and I think that's why he wants to win this game and Edison is actually on the ground looks like he got a knock to the head. I think he's out cold.
00:21:16
Speaker
I don't know if he's like, I'd go but he may be concussed. Pep looks very worried shouting at his bench. Defender was kind of pointing at his tongue, so they're running pretty swift. Realistically, he can't continue. So... Is there HII's on football? Not really, no. It's just the physio to kind of go. Yeah, and basically if they don't do it right, they're just coming out. So that could be a precaution, so I wouldn't be
00:21:46
Speaker
I wouldn't be diagnosing them just yet. Honestly, my heart goes out to players that there's tail end the season when there's a major tournament coming up. As a Ireland fan who doesn't know any skin in the game, you want to see the best players. Obviously, he's not from Europe, but just across the board, you kind of hold your breath with the big players. This could be a season-defining moment, because who's their backup? I know Scott Carson's third.
00:22:13
Speaker
Could Scott Carson be on the pitch yet? Could he win Arsenal?
00:22:21
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's played like a couple of games. And I want to use them kind of Robin 11, because like, he is very random. He's like, he is. No, he's never played in the league for them. That's mad. Like, like, apparently, though, I know I've seen a thing with Ben Foster and Jack Grealish that apparently Scott Carson is like Mr. Locker room. Like, he embraces that role of cheerleader. He is very necessary to them in almost just a I don't know.
00:22:48
Speaker
facilitator. Apparently the big thing for him is that he's a big big influence on Edderson. Oh really? Edderson that is very much no he's my guy.
00:23:04
Speaker
because don't forget, he, Edison would have been coming in, new country and all that, and he would have been taken under his wing. So, Stefan Ortega is warming up there now, who is our backup goalkeeper, who does have a few appearances for City in the league.
00:23:21
Speaker
You can keep your Stefanorte go, I once got current. Just Pep Guardiola's casually rocking casual clothes with 500 grand watch on his wrist. A Richard Mille special. Do we think Pep was going to leave City soon?
Pep Guardiola's Future Speculation
00:23:41
Speaker
I was chatting to somebody in work about this and I reckon he's going to be gone in the next two years. Might see him in the national team and then I think he'd be retired before he's 60.
00:23:50
Speaker
Oh, now the clock's gone, changes things slightly. I think he enjoyed that fight. I think, I think, uh, Ferguson Devinger kind of, I think, I think Pope came out and said it kind of soon after a clock had said he was leaving that, you know, it's the best kind of.
00:24:08
Speaker
rivalries ever had in the sport and I think they have made each other better and I think they've made the Premier League better but I I don't know what his next step will be but I think you're right yeah max three years I know he signed an extension recently but doesn't mean anything really does it
00:24:23
Speaker
No, I think you could see him take another two years out. Pep doesn't do things normally. Look at his playing career, going out to Dorado's and taking performance enhancing drugs. He doesn't do things like a normal football or what. I don't like seeing this, sorry, by the way, with Edison, he's back. I'd great to see he's healthy, apparently, but with a head hit like that,
00:24:46
Speaker
There's questionable concussion there. I know we said that's up to the physio, but the physio has to report to the manager at the end of the day and probably is under pressure. I don't like that. That's where he's fallen over on the goal kick. They're like, that worries me. Don't like that. There has been a massive, massive increase though on goalkeeper's faking injuries this year because it's one of the only time wasting that you can't be penalized for. So.
00:25:16
Speaker
Tinfoil had time. Is it more about that kind of winding down some of the clock than it is? Because coming up to that incident, Tottenham was putting a lot of pressure on City. Yeah, they were dominating that first half and they've been really doing a full press. The coalescence coming on has been a game changer. Like he just put a different level of physicality and tenaciousness into the team. He's such a good player.
00:25:43
Speaker
No, I will say on the HIA front, I mean, rugby's not perfect either, you know, plenty of, I think we've talked about this before that, you know, the, the IRFU doctor who was around for the first HIA, HIA kind of process resigned because he didn't believe you could judge within 10 minutes of someone out of concussion. So, and you did, like, I don't know what the answer is. Do they go straight off? Do they do a HIA? I don't know, but it just worries me. It'd have to be in a rugby sense where you can kind of sub somebody on temporarily.
00:26:12
Speaker
And let's be very honest, don't give me some real beauty on it as because of the court cases though. Oh absolutely. But it's sometimes he doesn't need precedent. Now just to say in this game Ortega has taken his jacket off so there could still be a sobriety. Pep doesn't seem too sure about what decision he's going to make but he's definitely not 100% pleased with Edderson.
00:26:40
Speaker
Going back to the decision he's going to make, how long do you boys think he's going to stay? I know, Killian, you said two years. What are you saying? I know how long you'd want him to stay. Yeah, getting on this summer as well. If they win the league this year, I could see him announce that he's going to leave at the end of next year.
00:27:03
Speaker
Okay, Ortega's coming on. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong, Killian. Yeah, he's suiting up on the side. Yeah. I think you're banned before the core case. Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. Isn't that slated to be next year, though?
00:27:20
Speaker
It depends on how much litigation City keep tying them up in. Plus, if he wins another Premier League, what else is there to do? Like... Yeah, but then, like you said, okay, if he goes national team, are we saying Spain or... Yeah. Okay. And then it's got to be end of the road, but like, what age is he now? Like, surely you'll have to bit soon for the end of the road for him, like...
00:27:42
Speaker
But I see this thing, I don't, he'll be one extreme of the other. And this was the debate I was having in work today. Like my colleague was saying that. He's 53 man. Yeah. But what my colleagues were saying was like, he's so obsessed with football. He doesn't know how to do anything but it.
00:27:59
Speaker
But I think he might burn himself out with football. Edison is not happy about taking off and hasn't acknowledged pep. Oh, he's kicking balls and everything. Not happy. Well, tough titty. This is this is life. These decisions that we made, Edison. But I think he won these kind of guys that it's everything or nothing. And I don't I don't think he
00:28:27
Speaker
Like he'll either be finished before he's 60 or he'll be still doing it at 90. And I don't see him doing it at 90. Or do you see him going into say back to Barcelona in some hierarchy job, not a director of football, but like, you know, something like a, like a cry situation, you know? Yeah. I could see something like that. Or even with the city group, imagine him going around just kind of set being a lesser ranyak.
00:28:55
Speaker
kind of just going, well, here's how shit should be done. Yeah. I can imagine having a bloody course at Harvard. You can imagine him just, oh yeah, you can get a six month course from Pep Guardiola in Harvard or something random like that. He's just so
00:29:11
Speaker
Well, I know actually on that point, you know, you guys might've seen her before. A lot of the Premier League footballers do her kind of a management course in, in Harvard, her name is Anita Elbries. She's worth the follow on, on LinkedIn and kind of a lot of, basically she, she's one of the top professors at Harvard and a lot of athletes go over and kind of take.
00:29:31
Speaker
I think it's like a four day kind of diploma mastery kind of situation pk did it a while back few irish athletes have done it too and i think they've definitely studied united and ferguson's former leadership in in harvard but i could definitely
00:29:48
Speaker
see him taking up some sort of a role like that. And Barcelona have their own college as well. So could be something there. I don't know if I see him as pep the skill teacher though. He's one of those cubs that matters though, isn't he? It's one of those I adore to see him take just like, I don't know, someone in like the second division somewhere, you know, be amazing. If you look at the teams that are out there, so he's done Bayern, so Germany is kind of done.
00:30:18
Speaker
Premier League's done. La Liga, he's not going to go to Madrid and I don't think he'd actually go back to Barcelona because it's a different team. Would he go to Italy? He's there as a player, but I don't see a PSG.
00:30:34
Speaker
I was thinking, I was thinking, I was talking to a mate about this. It was like, do you think he'd regret not managing a Liverpool United one day? He couldn't though. I know he couldn't now, but do you think that'll be a regret at the end of it? In what way to be like culturally associated with like,
00:30:54
Speaker
just like that type of fan base that is like a barn or a or that's not me trying to say it. It's just yeah I know what he did with it. I don't think he could have done it there.
00:31:11
Speaker
He's had that experience with Byron and Barrisa and he's going to have a statue outside the city. Yeah, no doubt about it. I think at the end of the day, he's going to be like a statue outside the city of Jesus. And like in fairness, I think his tens of millions will kind of probably keep him warm at night when he's complaining about it. But you do wonder though, like a 53, like, okay, look, regardless of how long we think he's going to be there, 10 years' time, he's definitely not there.
00:31:38
Speaker
You know there's only so long you can manage an international team before it gets same same or even the best get pushed out at an international level you know. I genuinely wonder like and this is me just trying to like things over there if you know I turn around tomorrow tomorrow and he says leave a city and offer them a deal what you would think. There's no way.
00:32:00
Speaker
I'd say there's some kind of non-compete clause with Citi. Regardless of that, he's a man of integrity. Like, Jesus, boys, come on, he'd sooner. He's got that much charity. I wouldn't be surprised. I think managers, especially managers in the top, like the highest level, I think they crave more than anything is that connection with the club. Like, I think that'll be one thing is he was at Barcelona and stuff, but he didn't stick around to where
00:32:31
Speaker
You know, at least clock them. Would you accept him at United? Would I accept him after what he's done for City? Would you accept him? And... Lads, I don't even know why we're discussing this. There's just no world! Would I accept him? No. Boys, I'd accept him more than I'd accept clock.
00:32:56
Speaker
Yeah, but the club is never going to happen. I'm just actually looking here, what the odds on his next club, on his next team, I should say. Barasa, Spanish national team, Brazilian national team, Juventus.
00:33:11
Speaker
That could work. Maybe. England national team. No. PSG. No. New York city FC. Strange things have happened. I can see that. He also did his sabbatical in New York. Remember that? He lived out there. Maybe not as an actual manager, but I could definitely see him work out there with them. Yeah.
00:33:35
Speaker
Yeah, because I think competitive competitively, if I think if he wants to elongate his career in football, you vase the play then Spain, and then who knows if he really still has something left in them in New York, but
00:33:53
Speaker
I don't know why that one's really sticking with me. New York is like, I don't see it straight away out of the city, but it is city group. Yeah. Take two years out, be an advisor to New York city while he's doing that. So kind of like running around the big apple, doing that on the side, keeps him in the city group and then becomes a global head of development. And I remember him saying before that it's the happiest he's ever been. Cause nobody really knew him there.
00:34:20
Speaker
I think, yeah, I don't think he's going to, I don't think he's going to be around when he's in 10 years time. I don't think, I don't think he's going to be managing them. I'd say 53, I'd say he's gone by very latest 65, 66. You know what's going to happen here is he's going to go manage Spain. He might go there manage the event is after, and then he'll go to one curveball club that
00:34:51
Speaker
would be like a Dortmund or, I don't know, but like the shit's there that people, that's been so long that people forget if you get what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or do you see him going to like, what's the Citigroup Club out in Japan?
00:35:07
Speaker
Yokohama, Yokohama. That kind of thing wouldn't be like, that could just be a shits and giggles job, you know? No, like, and that's why I pulled the plug on it is he will jump, he will, he'll jump before he's pushed, like, in terms of like, I don't see him that.
00:35:24
Speaker
New Yorker in twenty twenty three apparently he's like he said I would like to experience of living through a World Cup or euros or a cop America whatever it is I would like that I don't know when that would be if that is five ten or fifteen years from now but I would like to experience them of being a manager in a World Cup well I don't think there's a doubt that by the time he hangs up
00:35:47
Speaker
the whistle, shall we call it, that there'll be an international team on his CV. Spain's the obvious one, or maybe is it too obvious? I don't know. Absolutely not England. He's smarter than that. Because he knows it's a poison chalice.
City Accusations & Guardiola's Legacy
00:36:03
Speaker
Yes, you've got arguably never going back into
00:36:07
Speaker
you know, golden generation chat that I hate talking about. But you look at that England team right now and it's absolutely frightening. But I think there is legacy lost potential if he takes the England job while Spain. I think he'd be beloved, you know, for obvious reasons. I think he could take England then I think about it. Well, there was talk of would Klopp take England? Is it that good that I don't see why not? What do you take the UAE team?
00:36:34
Speaker
He did as a player. He was out there as a player at UAE owned city. Yeah, but if he's getting out of city before those charges hit, he wants nothing to do with that ownership group. I don't know. They seem to have a cozy relationship and they've backed them to the tune of, what, 2 billion in players. Yeah, but I think if he's going to go to that level of players, the MLS is more likely. Say, CEF aren't guilty yet.
00:37:02
Speaker
How does he react to that DNA? Well, he said before didn't he that if they are proven guilty, he will leave. Yeah, I'm talking when people call it the question that is success. Well, before him, you know, to be fair, I think he would be bitter about it. I don't think he'd like the question. He's ultimately complicit.
00:37:25
Speaker
But I think he, I don't think he'd like the accusation of kind of going well, you didn't deserve to win them. Because I think no matter what happens, they're not going to take the titles off them. No, they're not going to do like a Lance Armstrong Tour de France situation. No. And I think he would resent the asterisks that would have to be beside them. Do you think that his...
00:37:45
Speaker
Greatness as a manager gets called in the question. I don't think so. I was about I Really don't think so because I think the situations there that were outside control that he came into whether knowingly or unknowingly For me still to go, you know, I think what he's been able to achieve with Not just like this isn't just because of the city team just when you look at like I think the biggest thing for me with like
00:38:14
Speaker
I would have died on the hill for Sir Alex that he was the goat. But when you look at, yes, from a trophy perspective, what Sir Alex was able to achieve with United and pretty much a one-club manager, but Guardiola changed football multiple times. But if you're using that argument, you might as well say the same, but Johan Cruyff being the greatest manager of all time. I think there's two, I think there are two different things. Like I think if you're,
00:38:43
Speaker
You can affect football and then… Yeah, look at Bielsa. Like, Bielsa and Ranjic aren't in the conversations for best ever coaches, but they're two of the most transformational of the 20th century. And I think… How much money does Ralph Ragnick owe you?
00:39:01
Speaker
Well, if you look at the two streams of top level football, you're either a Bielsa follower or you're a Ranjuk follower. That's just a fact. Well, do you think that Barcelona team, yes, they had the players. Do you think they could have done the things they did without him? Yes. I don't. I don't. I think with the right mix at the right time, but
00:39:27
Speaker
he did have one of the greatest teams of all time and since then he said all of the monies of all time and like look look the one time he didn't spend all of the monies or didn't have all of the monies to spend um at Byron and
00:39:42
Speaker
In Bayern terms, that was a mediocre tenure. Well, it was a, a Blake is the wrong word, but it was just a very, yeah. It matched expectations. Yeah. For like, they, that was the minimum expectations and he did that. Fair play. Other managers have gone in and not done that.
00:39:59
Speaker
other guys have and have done it. So like when you look at the likes of Nico Kovach or Hansi Flick, both varying degrees of success. But when, no matter what, he's gonna have, so like, think of it like Pele being the best player of all time. I think he's gonna have them kind of conversations kind of going, yeah, but it was Santos in the 60s.
00:40:23
Speaker
Yeah. I think it's going to be, yeah, but he had Messi. Yeah, but he had 2 billion Euro. Yeah. No matter what, there's always going to be a qualifier for his success. I don't think he'll ever, in the future, I don't think he'll be judged on his football. I think he'll be judged on the trophies and the things around it. So I do think if they get found guilty, that's just going to instantly fall
Guardiola vs. Ferguson Legacy Debate
00:40:43
Speaker
off. But if you look anytime you get brought up, then it'll be like, oh, but do you remember?
00:40:48
Speaker
When he was on the team, they got juiced up for seven days or something. Like, do you know what I mean? But if you look at United, and this isn't me trying to rile you up before you think it is, obviously the numbers were much lower.
00:41:00
Speaker
Comparatively, Fergie had all the monies too for a long stretch. Well not to the degree that like... United were able to get anyone they wanted for 10 years. True, but Majesty United also had a huge amount of homegrown players.
00:41:19
Speaker
Absolutely. But it's not even just that, it's 18 title, Premier League title, so they dominate in an era. No matter what, the short 10 years of Pep is always going to go against him. If he had done what he did in Barca for 10 years,
00:41:39
Speaker
then it's undeniable, but he did it for what? Four. But one thing I will say, that's always going to go against him when it's kind of like, well, Ferguson rebuilt teams over and over and over of his own creation. So like he, he knew when to make the switch, whereas the switch Pep was making was a new team. I would, I will say as well that Fergie's travel was more impressive.
00:42:06
Speaker
than Guardios because of like, you look at like, you play that 99 team against the city travel team. City absolutely rents them.
00:42:18
Speaker
you know, no question. So when we're talking from a, taking a bunch of players that don't get me wrong, there's some absolute worldies in that team, but you look at, what do you think about that as a United fan? Take the red lenses off for a second. And you know, does that 99 team. Does that 99 team beat the city travel team? I don't think so. And that's why it could lend itself to Fergie being the top guy, you know,
00:42:45
Speaker
I don't think we can quantively match them up if that makes sense. I think they're two totally different sides and two totally different areas. I think they each bring their own assets. I think that a team that would dig way deeper than a CTE team would. I think they're a closer team. I think they're more of a tight-knit group.
00:43:10
Speaker
but yeah like i don't think we can equally like match it together i think we can think what would happen but yeah like i don't know what the outcome of that would be i think there's a kind of a better comparison that we can make is if you look at
00:43:27
Speaker
Ferguson's last title winning squad, which was in the era of Pep and like considering he got to a Champions League final during the era of Pep at Barasa, could Pep have had that same success with that United squad? Absolutely not. That United team was so bad and what he was able to achieve with that team was like,
00:43:46
Speaker
It was beyond spit and sell it in. Fabio and Raphael being left and right midfielders. The fact that Ferguson was still playing 4-4-2 and winning a league in what 2012 is insane, considering teams had started to make the move to Pep ball. And Pep best united in a Champions League final with a much better team. Like when you look at the two teams on paper now, it's kind of going, Jesus, well,
00:44:15
Speaker
United did well to get the final, let alone winning. I think Ferguson was one of them managers that the team was better than the sum of its parts and to an extent City is as well, but not by much. So what are we saying? I'm sticking with Peppers.
00:44:34
Speaker
The manager goes, but like, I think Alex Ferguson was the greatest manager. Pep is one of the greatest coaches and there's a very, very big difference there, manager and coach.
00:44:47
Speaker
Well, there's also a third category and this could be a part in itself that I think come the summer, we might have to investigate, but best manager, best coach and best tactician.
Premier League Final Day Matches
00:44:56
Speaker
Oh my God. Come on, come on, come on. You doubted Ortega. You doubted him. That's match fixing. Son's too nice to match fix. Oh, that was their chance. That was it.
00:45:15
Speaker
So for those listening that was not great, podcasting, but basically Son was clear, true, one-on-one with Ortega and, or kind of just try to put a diamond to Ortega's right hand side and she just put the hand out and stopped it. Ortega just got another year and it's contract from that save.
00:45:33
Speaker
Yeah, there's only four minutes left in the game. City are still 1-0 up. So barring a loss on the last day, as things stand, it looks like City is going to win the league again, which to me is very boring.
00:45:49
Speaker
Going into that last day though, there's some spicy fixtures there. Arsenal, Everton, Arsenal at home. That could go either way. United are away to Brighton. I probably would call that a draw. I don't know about you boys.
00:46:08
Speaker
Liverpool was kind of a make game, but the last game for Klopp at home and City of West Ham at home, which could be a bogey because it's David Boyce's last game, do I think the players give a shit? Probably not. The atmosphere might be there for it in terms of like, when the manager knows they're going like,
00:46:32
Speaker
fan bases seem to get behind them a bit. I think it will add a bit of spice to it. Interesting though Connor, what do you think the score tomorrow will be between Manchester 9 and the New Castle? I think we lost a very brief connection with Connor there. To be honest, I
00:46:58
Speaker
With the way ESAC has been playing for Newcastle, it wouldn't be surprising if Newcastle got a result like a tree one or a tree two. I think we'll do well to keep hold of ESAC to be honest with you. I know we bought them for big money and possibly clubs won't
00:47:25
Speaker
pay the fee, but I mean, he's 20 gold season. If you're looking like a Liverpool or a Chelsea, I could see them coming hunting. I don't think they can afford him. Well, we bought him for 65, so you'd need to be in that 85, 90 and this better for 85, 90.
00:47:42
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Plus, I don't think he suits either of them teams. Yeah. Like, why they play? He's a big man who's good with his feet. I don't think the teams aren't necessarily going to be playing that way. I mean, he's been incredibly good for us. And Jesus, I'd be delighted if we don't lose him. I think he's perfect in the system that we run. But just with the stats like that, he's definitely been talked about.
00:48:11
Speaker
by other clubs and other directors of football but we shall see. Actually one of the transfers I was very surprised to see the price tag of Nathan and if United don't pick him up they'd be fools. It's Kefram Torum. Apparently £20m is also going to take it to get my own ease.
00:48:31
Speaker
And you know, we'll have the first games. Penalty to the city. Game over. Did the outs of any talent on the East side be fleeced at them as United? Well, apparently they're going to be losing their manager now. So from an ownership side, they may need to keep a little bit of stability, players wise, if they're going to get any new coaching.
00:48:56
Speaker
I think Tadebo will be a united brand leaving today. What do you think about that?
00:49:08
Speaker
I'm sad he's gone. He's been very injury prone. I think that's been the biggest thing is he's a great player. He couldn't keep it together for a very loud part of it. But I think thinking back to last season, him and my TNS, they were just, they were top for a huge part of last season.
00:49:31
Speaker
It is a shame, I think, you know, the player he was at Madrid, I think we all just wanted to see that continue. But to me, I think him leaving breaks of a MLS or a Saudi move.
00:49:45
Speaker
in Saudi, definitely. Although, did you see who United have been linked with? Is Yamantosiam Ahmed, I can't pronounce his second name, from Fulham, who's apparently leaving on a free, who was actually a city newspaper. I think that'd be a clever move. If nothing, just to replace Johnny Evans. Haaland penalty scores, 90 plus one. Haaland makes a two nil, but there is 10 minutes of extra time.
00:50:11
Speaker
Come on Spurs! And Spurs have the most amount of victories after conceding first.
00:50:25
Speaker
I have to laugh just when you bring that stat up it gives me PTSD because I remember watching a Newcastle game a couple of years ago and I think we were like one nil down at half time and stats pops up and you know me I love a stat and it goes when Newcastle have been trailing at half time and I was like oh probably I don't know eight games or something they haven't won a game in ten years and I was like oh right okay love that I don't actually think Z is there
00:51:01
Speaker
There's a question I put into the WhatsApp group earlier and nobody answered me because we saved it for the podcast and I need answers. Has Sean Dyche done the best managerial job in the Premier League this year? Now, I'm not saying he's the best manager, but he's done the best job that he could have done with the team that he had.
00:51:21
Speaker
I think without a doubt, points deductions, lack of squad, the fact that they're comfortably safe is incredible. I'm delighted. I really am. I love the fact that they even stopped trying to get back two points, the last two-point deduction, because they're like, ah, we don't need it anymore. It's fine. The Premier League, without everything, would feel wrong.
00:51:49
Speaker
They're somewhat of a second club. When I'm looking at the results sheet, I've always looked out for Everton on it. But yeah, no, going back to your question, you'd be hard-pressed to find.
00:52:02
Speaker
someone else for that award shall we say. I think the thing that you also have to take into account is politically what he's had to deal with in there from an ownership perspective, keeping the team motivated. Now I think people like James Coleman are key to that club and I saw he got offered another one-year deal there so fingers crossed he stays with the club but I mean outside of that
00:52:28
Speaker
You're probably looking at Bournemouth, is that fair to say, as a potential rival in that regard? Yeah, considering that I wouldn't have been surprised if Bournemouth got relegated. There was a bit of a gamble on Ariola. It didn't start too well from now. Is there anybody that you would throw into the conversation, or am I just correct again that Deisha's done the best job in the Premier League?
00:52:56
Speaker
I think it is Dodge, but I think Oliver Glassner had us possibly at the end of the season where he's gone in and done. I think that's a show. Honorable mention, Rob Edwards, um, you know, Luton of the teams that came up, they, no one really gave him a chance. And he, I think he's definitely put himself in good light and, you know, they were there, they're about and.
Gap Between Premier League & Promoted Teams
00:53:22
Speaker
You know, on that, the three teams that came up look like the three going down. Is it- Bob's point from the beginning of the season kind of is a little bit true. Has the gap gotten too big? As somebody with a team in the championship hoping to get into the Premier League in the next three years, it is very worrying. Well, like it's, it's, it all comes back to that.
00:53:46
Speaker
Cash really, you know, and I think if they bring in that that kind of idea where it's going to be the TV rights of the bottom team, you know, by three, I think it will somewhat level the field. But I don't really know how to recalibrate the league. I think that's again a part in itself. But
00:54:04
Speaker
You struggle to see how the teams that are coming up, maybe bar Lester, Lester probably have the best chance of staying up. But it's, I mean, maybe that's a hot call early on for me, but. I don't know about you, but Thomas Frank's on fraud watch currently, like what's going on here. He would have been in the show for manager to seize another couple of years.
00:54:31
Speaker
in a row. Yeah. Yeah. I look too good at bad for right now.
00:54:35
Speaker
And it's the one time that Man United have taken one of my suggestions and apparently have him on their shortlist. Yeah. What do you make of that? Would you go from fraud watch to Man United? Same difference. If we're signing a manager at 16th place in the Premier League, we've got an issue here. Well, you could be looking to sign a manager who's not even in the Premier League. I'm a little bit worried.
00:55:04
Speaker
Cara McKenna, we can talk about that in our time book. Cara McKenna, Thomas Frank, it's like... Let's not put them in the same breath though. I would take Cara McKenna over Thomas Frank just for the... Oh no. For the experiment. Not for the... I don't think it would definitely work, but I'd be more curious as to that.
00:55:27
Speaker
So Thomas Frank is currently third favourite behind Tuchel and Southgate. Has the Tuchel chat kind of killed off, or is there still chats going on? To be honest, there's not really much concrete chat going on anywhere. It's all just a bit speculation-based right now, so I don't know. I feel like we have to wait till after the FA Cup final.
00:55:57
Speaker
Yeah, like I'm just looking at some of the lists now being linked, like there's the classic ones. Graham Potter does Urby's sedan. It's only 56 minutes, my friends, and Graham Potter has got his honorable mention of the part. Oh, I already mentioned him about 15 minutes ago, so it's fine, I'm happy. But one of the new names on the list that I thought was interesting considering he's done a very good job is Tiago Mata.
00:56:20
Speaker
Um, like he reached headlines maybe a year and a half ago when it, with his controversial, uh, two seven two formation, where he, he was at where people taught that he was playing a goalkeeper in midfield. And he wasn't, it was just a ball playing goalkeeper when he was looking at it from left to center seven.
00:56:45
Speaker
and two on the right, rather than a kind of traditional from the back to the middle.
00:56:51
Speaker
formation speak but like he's done a very good job over the last couple of years and I think it's I think it's great like even for him to be in the discussion because I would love to see him in the Premier League like his Bologna team is yeah they've been doing very very good in in Serie A like they finished ninth last year
00:57:17
Speaker
And they've brought through the likes of Aaron Hickey and stuff. It's a bit of an irony slot though. You know, it's a bit of a, you know, for me, there is one man outside Toojal and it's easy.
00:57:34
Speaker
Give. See you soon. Good job. Blonia, I've gone third this year. I finished ninth last year. I've gone third this year in Serie A. This isn't a slot. It's not air to busy. Does it happen to be fantastic? I just don't see him there. Again, he'd be a two-shot type where you're two or three years max, and he would want to rebuild the team.
00:58:03
Speaker
Will Jim Radcliffe give him the necessary funds? Or, well, he only has so much cash. Will the Glazers give him any funds? Like, as in... Can the FFP afford it, Nate? I don't know. I don't have access to the books, but... Yeah, like, it's just all up in the air right now, like... I think it will be too, should I hope it'll be too soon, but I can also see Ted Haggs staying.
00:58:32
Speaker
So when I think I speak for Killian, when I say both of us would absolutely adore Gareth Sake getting the job just to see you have a meltdown in the in the water group. I told you I'm putting ties. Oh yeah, I have your Sunderland home kit ready and we've new homo makers of them. I've seen the leak. It looks very, very good. So you'll be looking great.
00:58:57
Speaker
And at least it's still red. It's not like you're going over to the dark side on hindsight. Yeah. Be in line with still suffering as a fan as well. Lads, I'll be honest with you. I am so excited for Newcastle's ad you'd ask here to come out. I am going to be bankrupt. I cannot wait. Well, it's better than Castore. Like, at least it's not going to fall apart in the wash. You've got a good one with Homel. They're cool.
00:59:22
Speaker
Yeah. Some of the lenders have a new guy at the top. I think he's COO or one of them lettery jobs. But he was one of the big brains in MLS. So MLS next. Oh, you said about those four, yeah.
00:59:40
Speaker
like some of the kind of clever things that they've done over the last decade in terms of like garnering interest and bringing like development through the league.
00:59:52
Speaker
it's him and he's the one that's actually done the deal at Hummel. So not only are we getting a kit, it's not a template kit. Which, yeah, like it's an exciting time regardless of the bitterness of someone on fans. Does they say they don't have their own kit manufacturer yet? What's going on there? They're getting there, you know, we just need to figure out the ink isn't dry on the contract of the Shell company.
01:00:21
Speaker
A Tottenham company would appear at nowhere. Cheers. Cheers go out at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium as Tottenham Hotspur celebrate a 2-0 loss against City.
Man City's Probable Title Win
01:00:35
Speaker
Ortega actually got manned the match in the end. He did have a good performance once he came on. City now need to lose the next game and Arsenal need to win for Arsenal to be able to win the title. I don't think that's likely. And if Arsenal win and City draw in the next one, it goes down to goal difference and they're neck and neck on that.
01:01:00
Speaker
final day eruptions lads it's gonna be as the intro of this podcast with Aguero's name ringing out i think we're all hoping for a spicy end of the season but jesus lads the season's going quick hey it hasn't it hasn't it's kind of it's kind of like parts of it dragged and now it's suddenly finished last couple of months it really flew in
01:01:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I don't know that kind of October, November time, it just seemed to, I don't know if that was just cause of work or something like that, but it just definitely seemed to be longer. Um, yeah. Uh, I'm just so disappointed that you sit here and I'm winning another league.
Season Reflection & Quick Passage
01:01:41
Speaker
Well, it's as Nate said earlier, it's, I'm just known to it too. At this point, it's not even like fair play. It's just like, Oh yeah, cool. You got another one.
01:01:50
Speaker
lads it's bad that like she does not bother me like in terms of like yes that is absolutely terrible i know but i know how fake their the whole existence is or their trophy cabinets not fake it is it is they bother don't be jealous Nate um so yeah like it looks like really the season's now over um it's just a matter of
01:02:18
Speaker
It's about charming to leave the last thing. Yeah. Even still, like, I think Tottenham was the only one that couldn't kind of like make a last minute push for, and yeah, no, actually not. They can't even. That's now Tottenham on 63 points as they will around 68.
01:02:36
Speaker
Fight for 6th, and I'm not just saying it because I'm a Newcastle fan, but 36 games for each of these three clubs, Newcastle, Chelsea and United, Newcastle 57 points, Chelsea 57 points, and Man United on 54. That's probably all that's left. Are we going to get conference league? I think I really don't want to...
01:02:56
Speaker
Well, I'll take it. Champions League really proved troublesome for us squad-wise, so I think conference could be a nice little taster for us to get us on that road. So if you feel like doing a swap season, I'll take it. Honestly, I'd love a season of European football. I think you'd probably do the club or other good.
01:03:16
Speaker
It actually would shock to the system now. Also, let's just give a very brief shout out to Chelsea, who after being like notoriously bad,
01:03:27
Speaker
just kind of steady the ship enough to kind of not have an awful finish. Like in fairness to Poch, like the money that was spent, they should have been winning the league easy, but he's managed to kind of right the ship and could potentially finish ahead of United. Well, I mean, absolutely. And look, obviously I want Newcastle to get six, but if he can get Chelsea into Europe, I don't know what more he could have done this year.
01:03:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to make for a very, very interesting off season. I think next week we'll have our league in review and Nate, as a slightly later joiner to the podcast, you can be the judge, duty and executioner over our season predictions.
01:04:13
Speaker
These are all going to get flamed for your poor choices. I'm trying to, I actually can't really remember any of them at all. I think transfer of the season is already locked in. It's Mr. Nathan Byrne. It's an easy win for FC Knapp.
01:04:36
Speaker
and then after that we have the Euros to prepare for and maybe the odd debrief on the season just before the Euros and then we're into transfer talk but gentlemen it's been a blast even though the game was depressing it's always fun to be chatting to yous indeed my man indeed what a pleasure I've been killing entity with Nathan Byrne and Connor Glennon and this is not a pundit
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Messi! Messi! Oh my goodness! Fatelli! Aquero! That is extraordinary! What a hit! Right, right! Back of the net!