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Hammering Away Ep #2 - A Catch-22
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On today's episode of the podcast, Jack, Ollie and Alan discuss West Ham's big week ahead, David Moyes' stubbornness/future, what winning the Conference League would mean for the direction of the club, and more!
Music by - LADI OGUN & @ANTlll
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Transcript
Tactical Disagreements and Player Focus
00:00:00
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you in situations as players, I suppose, that you just completely disagreed with tactically. Yeah, massively. You still went and executed that plan almost knowing it, you know, it's just not right for us. Even the mindset, in one of the trainer sessions, and I hope I'm not speaking out of line here with David Wise, but our mindset, we never worried about the opposition. We never set ourselves up and said, oh, we need to make sure we contain this and contain that. We're going to try and win this game based on what we're good at. Yeah.
00:00:28
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I remember the first couple of games against Liverpool and Chelsea, and we were talking more about Hazard and Coutinho than we were about our own to create things. So there's doubt, and the players then look at each other. This ain't us. We're not used to this. And you can see even the younger players looking around going, whoa.
Introduction to Hammering Away Podcast Episode 2
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Speaker
Welcome back to the Hammering Away podcast. This is episode two. I'll be your host, Jack Coogan, or you can find me at Jackzini on Twitter, J-V-C-K-Z-I-N-I. Today I'm joined by my good friends, Ali and the one and only, Alan Rzepa. You can find them on Twitter at Alan, R-Z-E-P-A, and I think underscore O-C-0-2. How are you guys doing today?
00:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Glad there's no West Ham. Saved us this weekend.
England's Performance and Future Prospects
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And England actually played quite well. England might be back. Not that we were ever there, but we might be cooking again. I didn't see the game today. I saw a race score the other day, which we'll talk about.
00:01:59
Speaker
But you guys played well today, too. Saka scored, right? Yeah, Saka scored a screamer, but, well... Oh, yeah? The thing is, the thing is, the Italy game the other day, we... I've done it, like, the first, like, half an hour is the best I've seen England play, like, against an actual, like... They're not as good as what they were, like, in the Euros, but, like, they were... Compared to what England normally produce versus, like, Italy, Germany, France, all that, like, we should have been through four hours, so... For the second half, we counted on typical England, sat back,
00:02:29
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nearly collapsed, but the fact that we're going away and beating Italy shows, shows sign of improvement. Something's there. I mean, you guys, you have all the talent in the world that you really need. This is the best England team in a long time. Yeah, we should be. I think we should be winning the
Should Moyes Stay If West Ham Wins?
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euros. Like, I mean, I don't want Southweds to still be the manager, but if we're, if, I mean, if he doesn't win the Euro, he'll go, I think he'll go after the Euros anyway, but
00:02:53
Speaker
um if he doesn't win it like yeah it's curtains it's the same with Moyes really i think though like if you talk about the conference league like i was reading about it the other day like it's kind of a big debate it's like the fact is it's a catch 22 because if we win the if Moyes doesn't win the conference league then he has to go but then if he does win it then he's not gonna go do you know what i mean like yeah so i feel like he's gonna be like i don't know like i feel like he's gonna be here regardless because i think
00:03:22
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that he's going to be around regardless. That's just the way it seems. Like if we stay up and even if we just go to the final and lose, like it's hard to see them giving up on him. Um, it was actually something I wanted to ask you guys about was, is there something that he could do to convince you to stay like winning the conference league and finishing 12th?
Criticism of Moyes' Management Style
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Like Alan, what do you think about that? Um, not really. I just, even if we could win the conference league, I want him to go. So, so like.
00:03:52
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think that because nothing will change in the long term, but I don't know, man, like if the seems the thing is, I'm so out on this team actually showing any real signs of improvement. And if the players, I mean, we talked about it last week, if the players really have this much doubt in him, I don't know.
00:04:25
Speaker
the guardian and stuff like they always say and they have like good links to the like the club there was like oh the players have been unhappy with his methods and stuff like how is it why why is he still the manager if like all that's coming out in the like i don't know like people like a freak show like four nows like people like that like unhappy then Lanzini obviously he's not happy it's like game time like if he's if that many players are turning on him even soo check like do you remember that whole thing at the start of the season about um
00:04:40
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what he can do to actually convince us that he's worth keeping around.
00:04:52
Speaker
Mois wasn't willing to give Sucek like didn't want him to get a new contract because he wanted to. So like even like players that you deem like his, like you must have seen the Kufal thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean about how he's the ultimate pragmatist and it's winning at the expense of everything. When you're not winning, it doesn't really
00:05:16
Speaker
bode well for you. I think Suchak should just remember that he's a starry excuse of a professional athlete. Like I think he should keep that in his head whenever he feels hard done by. But yeah, no, it's like it's a great question. It's like if these players really feel this way for it to be coming out now in March, it has to have been this way at least since the World Cup break. It's like,
00:05:40
Speaker
Why was he given so much extra time then? But I think it also may bode well for the fact that we'll move on. I think if this club can get Michael Carrick, we're in really good hands. Yeah, I agree. Like they should have sacked him off to the Leicester game. I think it was the one right before the World Cup. And that's really horrible.
00:06:03
Speaker
that's something they should have sucked in them because obviously we would have had six weeks to get a new manager in and we didn't well we had like a lot of players at like Scamaca for example wasn't at the World Cup like we had we still had decent players like back at Boeing back in England and the and the thing is they could have easily got the walls the walls manager
00:06:24
Speaker
Look, they've got a bit of a, yeah, him. That's what I mean. Like Emory, Emory was a big one. Even like, it sounds really mad, but like even Sean Dyche, like I think a new, like you've seen the kind of new manager bounce he's given Everton. We definitely have a better squad than Everton. Like I refuse to believe. Yeah. A hundred percent. That's what I mean like that. So I feel like even the new manager bounce would have just lifted the team just over the line and it wouldn't have been as much jeopardy as it is.
Concerns About Upcoming Matches
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I completely agree with the new manager about comment. I think that that's what makes me most nervous about this running is that all these other teams are going to have the there's just few extra points that you get. Like, I mean, Everton beat Arsenal. Like we play Arsenal again at the bowl and however long we're going to look hopeless in that game. We're going to we're going to lose the city. We have other games against big teams. And like this upcoming week is really going to define our season because like when we've dropped points here or there, everybody's like, well, we'll find points. It's like,
00:07:19
Speaker
We are running out of time to win. And going back to after the World Cup break, I remember like you were one of the first people Ali, who I saw out on boys. But for me, I was like, okay, like give him the break. Give him those first three games after the break. If it doesn't improve, he has to go. We picked up one point from a possible nine from Arsenal, Brentford at home, and then leads away who are also horrible. Yeah.
00:07:45
Speaker
and he started Carrera left back against the leads like it's not like the players let him down like that team selection is insane I don't I think that's there's so many things that's why I can't see him staying like that Arsenal game for example like I mean they're the best team in the league for a reason but we absolutely like Fabianzky let that all from second goal I saw I saw it today the Martinelli goal is embarrassing that that goes in oh yeah
00:08:12
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And then the fact is, like, everyone debates like, oh, people are, I know, like, care of Johnson, like, they're not good enough. And I agree to an extent, but the thing is, how can they, how can they be good enough if he just, he doesn't put consistent team,
Player Consistency and Tactical Misunderstandings
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do you know what I mean? Like, in the fence, there's not been one back four, like, that's kind of stayed at, like, all the full backs. Like, Emerson has a bad game, he's dropped. Kufa has a bad game, he's dropped. Like, you can't, you can't give them, like, he doesn't give them run of games. How can they possibly,
00:08:41
Speaker
Emerson has a good game and he's dropped. I know it's weird. It's very weird because he has his favorites. And the other thing I'll say is like, I haven't seen Moyes put a player in a position to succeed this season. And I can't remember how long. I mean, you look at it from a million different angles. I mean, Aguirre was playing right center back for weeks. I know that we were short of numbers. Like Carrere has been bad, but he's played everywhere and nowhere consistently.
00:09:06
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Fabianski, he persisted with until he got injured. Ben Rama has the shortest leash on the team, so he can never feel comfortable out there. The only player that's allowed to go out there and feel comfortable is Bowen. I mean, apart from Rice. Yeah, I agree.
00:09:20
Speaker
Yeah. Even if he's taken to example, Pakatar, like he's the fact is we played two games against Leo last season. He must have like, I remember when we played them at home and he was sat on the hard. Yeah. He's the best player on the pitch. But he was sat like, I don't know how to explain it. Like he wasn't in the, do you know what I mean? He wasn't where you expect a number 10 to be. He was sat more on the halfway line, dictating play. Yeah. He signed him. He was like, Oh, we want goals and assists. Like, yeah, he does score and stuff. But like, how does he not take, how does it take?
00:09:49
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taken him six months after he signed a player for 50 million. It's ridiculous. It's honestly. It's mad. Alan, you can go more into depth about this because you probably watched more Leon than either of us did. I said Leon. Leon than I did last year or Ali did last year. But like, I feel like it was pretty well known that Paquetta, especially like during his time
Recruitment Strategy and Player Roles
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at Leon, was playing in a pivot in a 4-4-2.
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And he had the worst seasons of his career when he was playing further up the pitch at Milan. So like, the question has to be asked, does Moyes even deserve a chance to get what is there out of Paqueta when he didn't even know what he was signing in the first place?
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I mean, the thing is Paquetta was playing pretty much everywhere for Leon. He was sometimes playing as a striker, as a winger, as a forward, as a 10, as a pivot. So I guess Mois just looked at Paquetta scoring goals in highlights analysis provided to him and thought, okay, so we're going to play another 10 and he's going to score goals and assist and whatever.
00:11:00
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But like, yeah, it just shows how little understanding Moist has about the players he's signing. Like, for example, Skamaka, Ale, even when he was coming here with Felipe Anderson on the team, which he started Anderson in his first game as a 10, and then just dropped him because he didn't like how Anderson was playing in the hole, which is like...
00:11:28
Speaker
I remember with Felipe, he was playing him almost as a second striker and not letting him get on the ball, which was so weird. And something I would say about with the players he's signing now is how does it make any sense to target Lingard and Amadou Onana?
00:11:47
Speaker
And then when you miss out on those players to pivot into Kostitch and Paquetta and then into Maxwell Corne. Maxwell Corne and Jesse Lingard are not similar players. Paquetta and Onana cannot be more different midfielders. So it's like, what were you actually looking to put into the squad? Like I understand at a certain point, you just need to add quality.
Debate on Skamaka's Role and Tactical Adaptability
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But like, was there no profile of player that he really wanted? Because
00:12:15
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We, I think we would have all agreed over the summer. Our biggest need was getting somebody next to the rice. You can really play and Peketa can do that, but that's not what he was signed to do.
00:12:25
Speaker
And like, we've still, I mean, Sue Chex probably started 25, 20 Premier League games again. So. Well, if you remember, he was also after War Prowse, which, Oh yeah. I don't, I don't see War Prowse being similar to any of those other players. And that's the thing is he's, he signed Beketa, but he, he was so reluctant to drop Sue Chex. Like at the start of the season, I mean, it was so long ago, but I remember Sue Chex, like he wasn't as bad as what
00:12:53
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like I know he scored against Spurs like he he was kind of coming a bit back to but then I think we played Everton and that was actually when I first kind of turned boys out to be honest but we played Everton in a suit check like that was a terrible game he just can't what noise me about Moises he lives he lives on the pass so much in terms of like oh suit check might get us a goal he scored like two goals I don't even I'm gonna have a look I don't even know if my goals he's got but like he hasn't scored more than ten goals since
00:13:22
Speaker
so when i was talking i was talking to joe a while ago about this who abandoned us today by the way but i was talking to him a while ago about this and um i don't remember the stats off at the top of my head so i'm just gonna ballpark them but
00:13:38
Speaker
Between so see check had that run a form right when like around the time that Lingard and joined and scored He scored like eight goals and 11 games and besides that I think he has like nine goals and like 70 Premier League appearances or it's something like that Like I don't want to be quoted on the numbers right now because I didn't know that we're gonna be talking to in depth about mr Thomas to check but I
00:14:03
Speaker
Either way, like if it's nine goals and 60, it's bad because he doesn't offer you anything in midfield. Like I remember when we first signed him, like Liverpool, where he used to win the ball back used to be actually physical in midfield. He hasn't used his quote unquote physical presence in midfield for us. And probably in the league, at least since I can remember when we beat Liverpool at home last year, he has not been a physical presence in the field. He just gets walked past by all these players.
00:14:29
Speaker
And you can't play like that with somebody in the field. The only reason that we've survived as long as we have with that is because we have a world-class number six and number eight playing next to him. Yeah, I mean, I've kind of been done with him for a long time, to be honest. I think the thing in the European Games is last season in terms of Sevilla and Leon, that's obviously what's
00:14:57
Speaker
kind of blinded like pundits and stuff in terms of because obviously everyone like us who watches West Ham like every week. They don't watch us. But that's what's been blowing to people like Sucek because he scored that goal gets severe and he's unbelievable. The same as Leon, he was good. And his league forms been awful. And I think I think it's I think I think I won't. I mean, I don't think he's going to be dropped again anytime soon in terms of
00:15:24
Speaker
I think it would be Paquetta, Rice, Zuchek, Midfield 3. I can kind of live with that if Paquetta's... Thank God he changed it to a 4-3-3 and Paquetta's not playing so far. Solid pitch, yeah. Because we need him on the ball. He's our only player who can actually link defense in midfield in the attack. He's the only player who can help us build the ball and help dictate because, I mean, Rice has been great this season, obviously, even if it's his worst year since the last time we were in a relegation fight.
00:15:55
Speaker
I mean, like, he can't do everything. Yeah, he can't hold it on his own. I don't... I mean, I was interested to hear what your guys' lineup would be for a Southampton game. Because I would throw a bit of a curveball in there. I would start Lanzini, I think, over suit check. Yeah. I would love to see that. Yeah. I mean... I don't think it would happen, though. I personally, like, as much as I love
00:16:20
Speaker
Manu Lanzini, like that's probably my favorite West End player ever at this point. But he, and I think that he deserves a lot more minutes in the league. Yeah, I'll talk about that more in a second. I would start downs instead of two checks, just like, you know, let Rice be like a box of box eight and just let down sit and break everything up and just be sure of the ball. But I do think that Lanzini needs more game time in the Premier League and there are going to be games that you can start. I just think that for this game,
00:16:50
Speaker
just like maybe chill a little bit. But the one thing I would say about Lanzini is he hasn't played enough in the league last year. Him and Fornowz are both top five and I think it was like pressures per 90.
Lanzini's Potential and Tactical Adjustments
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Speaker
Yeah, and like we're one of the best pressing teams in the league and now we never press early We don't do it well, but we do it well whenever we finally do decide to do it I think Shanti Coleman was talking about that recently I think that when he takes Paquetta off he takes him off every game and he's always on a yellow card and Moises defense but like when you take Paquetta off it doesn't have like it should be Lanzini and
00:17:26
Speaker
because it's the only other, it's the only other person who can link play and who can keep the ball in the midfield. Bringing on Fornales for Paqueta makes zero sense tactically. They're not similar.
00:17:40
Speaker
Yeah, if you want to make a sub for someone to play in the pakatero, let's say, you either draw price to that place, or you sub on Lanzini, like playing 4-0 as a 6. It makes absolutely no sense now.
00:18:01
Speaker
I just, I, it blows my mind that he does it because every time he brings pick up the off, we lose whatever little control we had. And I was looking at a graph the other day. Um, I think it was, was it on Opta or was it on between the posts? I think it was on Opta and it was showing like teams controls in certain parts of the pitch and like highlighting them. The only place where we have 55% of the touches or more against our opposition is in our own box.
00:18:29
Speaker
everywhere else it's either contested or they touch the ball more than us. So we already don't have control of games and taking Paquetta off takes whatever little control we do have away when you don't bring Omezini for him. Yeah, but that is exactly how Mois plays. He doesn't want
00:18:48
Speaker
If you watch his Everton side, let's say, it was always the same. The midfielders had to run, had to tackle the ball. For example, Fellaini. That is the perfect Mois midfielder. And we had the research when he was scoring goals. But he's now not scoring goals and not contributing defensively enough. And it's been like that for a year and a half.
00:19:17
Speaker
Yeah. So like if you want to have a team that's going to play the ball through the midfield, it's just not going to happen with David Moyes in charge. It's almost like, I was going to say, it's almost like he's trying to deliberately suck the life out of like any, like with Ben Rama, like
00:19:38
Speaker
any kind of hacking threat we have, it's like, oh, no. And like, they even say it though, like, it's even been quoted, like the players are like, if we're one nil down with 10 minutes to go more, just rather we don't see the second and get the equalizer, which I know that always blows my mind, especially like, okay, now we're in a real game from battle. Like all differences, important, whatever, especially while we have the upper hand on it, but.
00:20:01
Speaker
He's always done that. Like the thing I will say is whenever we do chase games, that's always the best that we've looked. Even when we've been good, we always look better when we're chasing a game, which I understand in some ways happens just because teams tend to sit off and things like that. But we have the ability to play on the ball and he brought in players to play on the ball. And he talked to all this trash about, oh, like I want us to take more control of games, blah, blah, blah. Either he doesn't actually want that or he's incapable of coaching that. And either way, that's a fireball offense.
00:20:30
Speaker
I think the thing is, obviously, what's happened is we've gone from kind of a counter-attacking team in terms of teams aren't giving us loads of respect. We're going into games and we're underdogs. All the fact is it's switched. And obviously, Mois has signed all these players. He's one of those managers. He's not a very good manager when he's kind of... Man United, like Everton, his side was always up against it. But when he's expected to perform,
00:20:58
Speaker
He doesn't know what to do with these players, like Skamaka, for example. His treatment of Skamaka is so bad. I mean, I wasn't Hallo's greatest fan. That's probably controversial with you guys.
00:21:10
Speaker
I think Skamaka is like a cut above. He's the best striker we've had for years by a mile. I think Danny Ings is a good Premier League striker, but no one can tell me that Skamaka is not a better player than Danny Ings. I'm not debating it. Yeah, that's the thing. I don't have an issue with Ings as a player in the squad. I have an issue with his wage and with the fact that he's just automatically in front of Skamaka no matter what he does. He touched the ball 10 times last week.
00:21:36
Speaker
And the other thing with Skamaka is it just comes back to that Moise has no idea how to coach a team, how to play with the ball, which
Struggles with Offensive Play under Moyes
00:21:43
Speaker
is embarrassing. All we do when we build the ball up, we just get it to either wing and we just play triangles and try to work crossing angles. It's horrible to watch. And the other thing is like, whenever we do work the ball through the midfield, it's either always through Paquetta and Skamaka. And it's usually just like a moment of like individual brilliance.
00:22:05
Speaker
Agree, yeah. And then going back to the Ben Rama point, Moises treatment of him has been crazy. I've like almost never seen a manager more reluctant to play a player than him. This year he's kind of had no choice but to rock out with Ben Rama just because the way he started the season and like he has been one of the only players to show any kind of cutting edge.
00:22:27
Speaker
But with Cornet coming back, do you think Cornet should start? And if he should, how do you work him into the team? Do you drop Ben Rama? Do you play Cornet? I drop Bowen. You drop Bowen, you play... Yeah, I drop Bowen. I think Bowen's been fine recently.
00:22:44
Speaker
It's not about Bowen being fired or not. I think we need an impulse. We need someone who's going to change something in this team. And Bowen is currently very, very stable in what he does. And it's like, OK, he's going to get a chance. He's maybe going to score, maybe not. But most games, he's golfing through. And it's exactly the opposite to what we need right now.
00:23:14
Speaker
If I'm being honest, I said this a few weeks ago, I don't think it's as needed now, but we don't score any goals. We generally defend fine. And with Zuma and the Garretback, we have two athletic and capable center backs. What would be the issue with trying to go 4-4-2?
00:23:33
Speaker
and playing Bowen and Benromo or even for now is off the left if you want to have more stability with Rice and Paquetta in the pivot and then Skamaka and Kornay up top. I don't know if I would do that now. I think, I forget what game I said. We should try that before. I want to say it was a month ago or so. But what is the actual issue with that team? We already don't have any control in midfield.
00:23:58
Speaker
so what's the issue with taking a player out because we're gonna go long anyways he won't do it i think the i think the thing is it's interesting because he's a player we've been crying out for in terms of pace like like antonio used to be that guy on the right wing before he was not fast anymore he's not he hasn't got the legs anymore like he's he's still fast but he's not we haven't got like an adama type
00:24:21
Speaker
But obviously not as fast as him, but do you know what I mean? Nobody goes zero to 100 in like a millisecond, which is what we need Kornae to do. This is what I mean. Like, Ben Romer can take players on, but he doesn't skip past them. Same with Bowen. Bowen's not got the legs. So I wouldn't really mind if Kornae started over either of them, to be honest, because like you said, something's got to give. As long as Scamaka starts, I think, with... He's not going to start, man. Keep dreaming.
00:24:48
Speaker
Yeah, like, look at the strikers' moist head at Everton. Like, the typical moist strikers that come to my mind are Nikita Jelovic, Jakubu, and I think it was Victor Anichebe. Like, three, it's the same type of striker, like, a fat,
00:25:10
Speaker
tall guy that's going to stand in the box and score goals. He doesn't know how to use a striker that knows how to pass, knows how to... Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, that's the thing that I've been thinking about with Skamaka in particular, is that he's so good at linking the play and kind of getting the ball to his feet with his back to goal. If you play Cornet and Bowen on either side of them and have them almost play as like inside forward is the way that Monet
00:25:38
Speaker
and Salah used to play off in Firmino, not that the quality is comparable, but just from a tactical standpoint, like A, it'll give us something different that teams haven't seen us do this year, and B, that's probably our best avenue to score in goals.
00:25:56
Speaker
Is it not? I agree. Well, yeah. I don't know what you think, but like the thing is with Danny Ings is like, he's, I don't know. I think he's not, he's not a lone striker. Do you know what I mean? He's so isolated. He's not, he's not got Antonio's strength. He's not got Skamaka's height or strength. He's so isolated. Hence why he touched the ball. What do you say? Like 10 times, 10 times. What was the point of playing him? Unless we're playing like, I mean, the, the fingers with the forest game is like, it was such a,
00:26:25
Speaker
like normally in terms of they they're the worst away record on the league like i don't they're they're horrible they might be the reason we stay out i don't i don't know i yeah i was gonna say what who who do you guys think they're actually gonna go down forest south hampden and iguana i think lee i think lee's over forest i think yeah i think lee's are going down but i think south hampden are staying up
00:26:52
Speaker
Forest have like the third hardest schedule remaining in the league. They're cooked. Yeah, that's awful. They're terrible. I think Portland move, Forest and Leeds are going down. Like appointing Javi Krasia to get you out of a... Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's awful. How many points do you guys think we need from this week with Southampton, Newcastle and Fulham? Just like, if we don't get X amount of points, we're going down.
00:27:24
Speaker
I think we'd be fine with like 35, 36. No, I mean from this week, from those three games. But I agree, 35, 36, I think it gets it done. These teams are terrible. As are we. 506.
00:27:42
Speaker
I think you have to beat Southampton and I think draw or win versus Newcastle. I think Newcastle's WWE run is over.
Newcastle's Champions League Aspirations
00:28:02
Speaker
I don't think so. I think they're going all the way. Yeah man, you think they're going to finish in the Champions League places? Newcastle?
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah, fourth. They're falling off, man. They're cooked. I've not really looked at the table to be honest, but I think Spurs are closest, aren't they? Spurs are above them. But are Newcastle got a game in hand? But their game in hand is against us. How many points are they going to get from that? Newcastle have two games in hand on Tottenham and now two points behind. I wouldn't rule Liverpool out, you know.
00:28:36
Speaker
That's what I'm saying, Liverpool are back man, they look really good. Liverpool are 7 points behind Tottenham.
00:28:44
Speaker
With two games in hand, Alan. Liverpool also. Yeah, but like, who do Liverpool play? Man City next. Liverpool have Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Leeds, Tottenham, Arsenal... Wait, no. Nottingham Forest, Fulham, Brentford, Leicester, Villa and Southampton the final day. Southampton will already be down.
00:29:15
Speaker
No, I don't think so. Tell us about Southampton, Alan. Tell us why we should be scared for this Saturday. Tell me about Paul Onowatu. Paul Onowatu probably won't play because...
00:29:32
Speaker
Has he played for them yet? I haven't seen him. I was going to say. Yeah, he's been... he's been starting... uh... for Harsenkötl at the start. Then he got sacked. Um, and the new guy. I can't remember his name for the... left whip. If I wanted to. Oh, still a mana? Too much mana? Yeah. He's... he's... I'm talking about the manager.
00:29:59
Speaker
Salas came in, he started on the watch for like a week or two and then dropped him to the bench. And on the watch he has been playing here in the coming of the bench. Has Orisic been playing for them? No, he's out of the squad completely. They just don't play? Yeah, he's nowhere to be seen. That's so weird.
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah, but like, I'm going to be scared for that game if I saw the lineup. Our record's pretty good against Southampton, you know? Apart from loss, I think we lost. Last season was actually a bit rough, but... I'll also say we always beat them when we're in the shit.
00:30:45
Speaker
Yeah, like we beat them. I mean, yeah, we beat them with an out of it. When we were a point above them in 17th, we beat them with that, how their goal at St. Mary's when we were in the relegation zone. When we were in the shit. Yeah. I feel like they're quite soft. If you know what I mean? Like they're one of those teams that would.
00:31:07
Speaker
collapse quite easily i mean it's a very talented young team and it's just i don't know i think they're going to stay up because they're on some good form like the game against Tottenham that was a very very impressive uh performance i just don't think no i think they're done i think they're i think they're not like
00:31:33
Speaker
I'm most confident about them going down and everyone's kind of getting on like the Bournemouth high, but I don't know.
Declan Rice Transfer Speculations
00:31:40
Speaker
I'm still, I'm still thinking Bournemouth are down. Like I think it would be more Bournemouth are not.
00:32:20
Speaker
So Declan Rice scoring for England this weekend, but not only scoring for England. I don't know if you guys saw the clip of Zinchenko talking to him after the game today, where he asked him, I mean, it's just Arsenal fans trying to lip read on Twitter, which is always a very reliable source, but they say that Zinchenko said you joining and that Rice said we'll see. I guess my overarching question for that is,
00:32:49
Speaker
You know, obviously he's going to leave, but how has he actually handled this whole he's going to leave thing? Because, you know, everybody's always talked about he's twerking this, he's twerking that. But I feel like this season, it's almost just felt a little different, like he's got one foot out the door. I mean, I think he's done quite well.
00:33:08
Speaker
like obviously the amount of questions he's been getting at press conferences about like playing in the Champions League and stuff he's always going to like say something that the fanbase isn't going to like oh yeah I don't blame him for those answers but it just almost feels like his head's not in it I feel like he loses his head so quickly these days
00:33:36
Speaker
Maybe it's the captaincy, I don't know what it is. I think he's just frustrated at where we are and he's probably not expected to leave us after a shit season like that.
00:34:00
Speaker
It's not a shit season if he lifts that damn conference league trophy. Oh, yeah, then for sure. If we stay up against... He's got to get his eyes on, uh, Quarantina.
00:34:11
Speaker
and get his battle with... I forget Amrbat's first name right now, it's Sophie and his older brother, Sophie and Amrbat. Get his eyes on that competition. Hopefully we get the right replacement. I wouldn't mind that as a replacement next summer. I think he wants to go to Barcelona. Because that was happening in January, I think. Got blocked. I think he can cry.
00:34:38
Speaker
My opinion on Rice is different, to be honest. A lot of it is media speculation that he can't control, but I think he shouldn't have said those comments before the World Cup. In that press conference, he said about the Champions League. It's obvious he wants to, but I don't know what you guys think. I feel like it would be denied somewhere.
00:35:02
Speaker
Surely it doesn't help the dressing room if everyone there's a captain like willingly, like he doesn't want to be there.
00:35:09
Speaker
Like he's got one foot out the door and I don't think it's like, Oh, he doesn't want to be here. Like he's going to like pull Dimitri Pied or anything like that. I think he's made it clear enough with the rejection of contracts and all of that stuff that he doesn't need to gush over and over again about all the champions like this. I'd love to win trophies. That's like, you're going to leave at the end of this season. That's been known for years, honestly, with the way his contract situation has gone.
00:35:35
Speaker
So just shut up, keep us in the league and leave. Like I'm not going to despise him anything or anything like that after he leaves. But, you know, I just think that, like you said, especially with the position we're in, this cannot help. Just, it's another, it's more fuel to the fire that I don't think that we need. Yeah. I don't think he's been a good, good captain this season personally. I agree with that. In terms of like, compared to last season, in terms of like,
00:36:01
Speaker
like you said like he throws his arms up in the air gets frustrated more but you didn't really see that last season. Is Mark Noble holding his hand anymore? Well that's kind of the debate isn't it but last season he didn't hear that like if if we lose like I can't remember many times he came down and like said I don't know or like like was kind of brutally honest in like press like in interviews like he is now because I know it's not going well but
00:36:25
Speaker
I don't think it was like that last season because he seemed much more happy to be there. Now the teams, like you said, like teams down in the dance, he looks like he's got one foul at all. And I understand it to an extent, but it's just like, man, like we're asking you for one last or two last things because the conference lead to, but we're just asking you for like two more months. And I don't think his performances have really suffered that much. It's not that. I just think that.
00:36:52
Speaker
It could have been handled better. But hey, at least he scored for England. It's pretty crazy how established he is for them. I think his performances are... I don't think he's having as big as an influence on games. I think some games he has. I remember the first half in the Arsenal game, he was unbelievable. And that really... There's like a two-month stretch. I remember the Newcastle game, he was unbelievable. But I think... I actually thought...
00:37:22
Speaker
the villa game he was pretty invisible yeah he was quite bad in that game i don't i don't think he should be taking corners personally even oh yeah for sure like deck on raisin corners like what's why he's fucking thinking it's just more it's just that deck thinks he's labran yeah he thinks i think he also has that in terms of
00:37:43
Speaker
because he's so good at driving with the ball he it kind of like he wants to go too far the other way and be more attacking than he's actually he's obviously a better defender than he is an attacker because he would he would have more goals otherwise
00:37:56
Speaker
Well, I think part of that, I think that if Moyes had just gone out and signed an Amadou Anana, or even somebody who really just sits deep, he could have let Rice play that part of his game more. Because Rice is probably our best presser of the ball too. Like I don't hate, at least at a club at our level, or theoretically our level, having Rice that far up the pitch, running with the ball and stuff. But the thing is, he has to have a midfield partner who's capable of handling things back there, which is again, why I would start downs on Saturday against Southampton.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah. Downs definitely does have that ability, but he doesn't trust Downs, which I don't get because every league game he started on the right wing, which is just stupid, and every European game he's played, he's played really well, and then he's just not given a look in. I don't think he started a league game in his actual position. I don't know. You guys might bat me off on that. Maybe one or two.
00:38:54
Speaker
Yeah, but the other thing I would say is that with Moi, because you're saying Moi doesn't trust Downs, A, he
Trust Issues with Player Downs
00:39:04
Speaker
doesn't, and B, the thing with Downs is
00:39:08
Speaker
He always mentions, oh, like when I bought Layton-Bains and Phil Jagellko, they didn't play for six months. It's like, okay, Thor. And then they turned out to be England internationals. We are losing games. Like you have to try something. Like Everton were in the top six most of those years or top seven. I know they had a few 12th place finishes, but those are still mid table finishes. We are in the relegation zone in April.
00:39:33
Speaker
like he has to try something like it's get you can't just throw sucheck out there every week and expect something to change well that's what that's what's so frustrating when you start sucheck because he's like he always says our sucheck might get us a goal and stuff and like you said earlier sucheck scored look he scored one Premier League goal all season that's ridiculous and it was that was in August it was in August and uh what um what are your guys appear like who would you want the
00:40:00
Speaker
next manager to be. Alan, you've probably got more European knowledge in terms of who's actually out there that we can get. I mean, I'm going for we're still Michael Carrick. There's no other manager. It's either of them two. I don't care which one. Carrick is the one, man. Carrick, he's the chosen one. He will save us from everything bad in the world.
00:40:26
Speaker
I think he's more realistic than Will Still. I think Will Still is more realistic than Carrick. I think if they get promoted I can't see us getting our hands on Michael. I think in terms of more of the owners though, they'll see Carrick as a former player, he's more experienced in that regard and it's like English football. You know what David Sullivan is about to fuck off. The other thing I would say is that
00:40:55
Speaker
With Will still, I mean, Will still has given us the Declan ice treatment. He won't stop talking about us. So like, at some point he just feels more likely to me, but I think that if we get Carrick, like we can really push on. Because Carrick, really, everything he's shown as a manager, whether it's as an intern at United or at Middlesbrough, he's elevated his teams and his players, which you can't say the same about Moyes for a long period of time. I like Ray.
00:41:34
Speaker
Has Schumacher played this international break? I think they're playing now. Yeah, he's playing today. He's starting? Um, wait. We could use him getting some minutes so he can get his quote-unquote physical battle where it needs to be, David Moyes. Aim on after 66 minutes.
00:41:54
Speaker
Oh, he played against England? No, they just beat Malta too now, but he came on after 66 minutes. He nearly scored a bicycle kick, I think. He nearly scored. Someone said that. He only came on like the 85th minute against England, but the only reason, even Mancini said the only reason he's basically not playing it,
00:42:23
Speaker
he said that he's not getting enough game time. And there's a lot coming out of the Italy camp though like where he's not playing because he's not getting enough game time but they all seem very confident in his ability like I don't know if it was Manchini or a different coach or player but somebody was like yeah he'll be the man again at West Ham in no time so it really makes you wonder what the hell Moiz is doing and if it works out it works out great but I
00:42:48
Speaker
The thing is, somebody has to start scoring goals. I said this last week, every time we've been saved, it's never a bunch of different people chipping in. It's always one or two guys just saving our asses. Like when it was Arnadovich, or when it was Antonio, or when it was Lanzini. It's always one or two guys, and we don't have that guy who's going to save us right now. Well, that's what I mean. The schematic is sitting on the bench of how he meant to know. I'm not being funny. Based on that goal he scored against,
00:43:17
Speaker
wolves in the league he scored a spot i don't know who it was against in the conference league away game he scored absolutely scream as well yeah you're not seeing antonio do that maybe one that one goal for jamaica and the one goal against
00:43:35
Speaker
AEK Lernaca. Oh, true. I don't think Danny Ings scored a goal outside the box in the league. Not in a few years. He scored a few for Southampton when he had like 19 that one year. Yeah. So like it's not, I don't, I don't know. I just, yeah, I don't have the, I don't have the. It's just so frustrating because the other thing is Skamaka's last league start.
00:43:59
Speaker
Against Leeds he was very good. He scored another ridiculous finish from outside the box I do agree Skamaka needs to get himself into the box and more available But we've seen that that's there when he's playing consistently like against Fulham. He should have had a hat trick but Like he created both goals against Leeds like effectively so at a certain point
00:44:25
Speaker
like i don't see the harm in trying it he is the only striker who's given us consistent good performances this season when he started that's true and like this might sound controversial but i'm more i'll be more upset about skamaka leaving than rice now because rice has already been accepted do you know what i mean like everyone knows oh yeah i completely agree oh yeah 100% because a lot of skamaka go it's just another wasted talent well you know he'll go
00:44:54
Speaker
And he'll be like, it'll be like hell up. He'll play champions league. He'll have six goals in the group. It was like something ridiculous. Like you just know it's going to happen. And then it'll be, he'll be in the Ballon d'Or conversation. Yeah. Get a horrible disease and then everybody will pretend that they love them. And West Ham central will be praying for him, even though West Ham central borderline called hilarious slur while he was here.
00:45:21
Speaker
No, like seriously though, like I don't want to get into the whole West Ham Central part of this, but like, like dude, I'm just not even going to talk about him because he does not deserve the time of day. But that the way that he talks about our players, like I know that we've all said some like crazy stuff, especially about Stu Czech, but no one like just has the undertones of West Ham Central when he talks about some of our players. It changes more like the weather.
00:45:50
Speaker
I mean, yeah, it's like he'll tweet about, oh, Lanzini needs to play more and then Lanzini will play and he'll be like, he's never been the same. It's like time to go. Like Lanzini was one of our most important players last year. We went to a Europa League semi-final. Jesus Christ. It is mad how far we've gone. I mean backwards in terms of from that, but like last season, but like everyone says,
00:46:16
Speaker
The league form was really bad. It was falling off a cliff. The only game I can remember is winning down late the last two months of last year was Norwich. And Villa. Yarmulenko. Villa. Yes. But that was a charity win. But even the last game of the season, Brighton, all the players are checked out. Yeah, I don't remember that.
00:46:40
Speaker
That was so frustrating. I mean, that might save us in the long run if we win the conference league and be a blessing of disguise. But that game was so frustrating because we should have finished sixth.
Impact of Conference League on Moyes' Future
00:46:51
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that's what I'm kind of quite happy because you're like, you're rather, I'd rather like this season in hindsight, you're robbing the conference league than Europa because we actually have a chance of winning it. Yeah. Look at the teams in the Europa League now. Jesus Christ.
00:47:06
Speaker
It's mental, isn't it? I don't want Mois taking us into Europa next season, though. No, no chance. That's what I mean. It's such a conundrum. I don't think he will go through in the Conference League. And you can't really blame them, because how can they... No, yeah, of course. You can't surrender who wins your first trophy in 43 years or whatever.
00:47:27
Speaker
I would be willing to give boys another chance if we win the conference league and finish like 15th. Not because I want to, but just because that's going to be the reality.
00:47:37
Speaker
And like I would much rather win the conference league and stay up and like still have European football and still keep trying to push up and like keep players like Paquetta hopefully, then just kind of start from scratch again. I think it depends on the performances really, doesn't it? That's all it depends on in terms of, is the football game any better? If it is, if it is, then give them a chance. But I don't see it happening until he drops people like Sucek.
00:48:07
Speaker
Fabianzki. Yeah, one thing I'll say. That's the thing is that at some point, sorry, Alan, but just at some point, like you have to take the decision away from him and he gets due check out of the club. He has too much say over chances at this point. Newman has to be the one running that and Moyes doesn't need to get final send off. Like you see it all the time in other sports, the general manager or the director of football, whatever you want to call them, needs to be in charge of putting together a squad for the manager
Contract Renewal Debates
00:48:32
Speaker
to choose from. Obviously, the manager can have stay.
00:48:35
Speaker
But when Moyes is trying to be like, oh, well, Stu Czech is my guy. Well, too bad.
00:48:41
Speaker
Yeah, one thing I'll say is no matter if we win the conference league or not, if the performance is improved or not, if David Moyes resigns Fabianzki, I'm just not going to say a good word about him. That's your country man. That is my country man, but I don't want to see Lucas Fabianzki at this club past this season.
00:49:07
Speaker
He should never play again for us. His contract did expire in the summer, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, but I'm not being funny. Surely he resized because he's not going to... I don't know. I thought they activated a one-year extension, to be honest. He has a one-year extension, but it's not been activated. I hope he won't be.
00:49:32
Speaker
Not if it was right Saturday. He doesn't, he doesn't rate Ario though. Well Moyes, again, I've said this like three times today, Moyes can cry then, because you know what? Fabiancie's gonna come back and he's gonna have the eyesight of my fucking grandfather.
00:49:48
Speaker
Yeah, so out of contract this summer and I'd be interested to get your guys thoughts on who should be kept around, who should go. Out of contract this summer, Vladimir Kufall, Manuel Anzini, Aaron Creswell, Lukas Fabianski and Angelo Iguana. What do you do with those five?
00:50:10
Speaker
I let Fabianzky leave. Possibly resign Kufau on a one year extension for depth. He's gone for me. He's gone. Yeah, I don't know, because he's had a bit of upturn informed Kufau. I like Kufau. I mean, that's one thing, but like he's on low wages. He's a very solid option. I'd keep him for like a one year deal.
00:50:40
Speaker
Ben Johnson is on lower wages. And if we're being serious, the idea... I'd rather too far stay than... They're the same level of fire and both of them get decent patches of form. We have to upgrade it right back no matter what.
00:50:58
Speaker
summer basically you're asking who would you rather have around as a backup would you rather have an academy kid who's like decent has shown the ability to have good stretches of games who helps you meet your English quota and all that fun stuff or would you rather have Thomas Suchak's boyfriend? I'd rather Thomas Suchak's boyfriend for sure. I don't rate Johnson anymore. Johnson can play left back though.
00:51:23
Speaker
I don't think. Yeah, I think Johnson just gives you more as a squad option than Khufal does. Khufal's already out of contract. He's 30 years old. He has not been able to stay fit for long periods of time for two years. I'm out on it. I like Khufal, but I think it's just time to go. I would keep both. You would keep both and sign a right back. Yes. It's a crowded squad.
00:51:43
Speaker
I would sell Carer probably. I would keep him as an option at centre back. He's going to be a fourth. I'm selling Carer for sure. We need a Goed level centre back.
00:52:00
Speaker
I like Zoom. I think Zoom is a good player, but he's so injury-prone. Well, I agree. Oli, we need to sign a third top-level centre-back at least at our level. Would you take Harry Maguire? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I would. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Anyone who says no needs to play off the crack, like, come on.
00:52:22
Speaker
Well, who would you give captain next season? That's the thing. I think Aguerde should be captain. Aguerde. Unless Aguerde gets another charity win here. I was just about to say, I'm keeping up on giving him the arm band. Unless we sign like Ward Prowse or something like that. He won't play. He won't play. That's fine. Mark Nobles didn't play. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Who would Aguerde be your own pitch captain? Oh, yeah. Aguerde would be my own pitch captain.
00:52:49
Speaker
I don't know. I think Cresswell will be captured. No, Cresswell has to go. Shut up. Hopefully Cresswell is playing for Leighton Orient next season. She's not good enough for Leighton Orient.
00:53:00
Speaker
Your favourite player will be back next season? Alan? Yes, finally. Oh yeah, we don't need Creswell, Masiwaki who's coming back. There's no way Masiwaki stays, surely. Could you imagine? I mean, if Basik has done, like, don't use the buyout clause, then he's coming back. And I will be there.
00:53:23
Speaker
I will be there when Artemaso Aku plays a game for Western United. I don't care if it's a fucking game in like Australia. I will fly to Australia for friendly games, Tottenham or whoever would play.
00:53:40
Speaker
We do need an Arthur Mascowaku, Remented against Tottenham in Australia in a friendly game. What was I going to say though? I was just going to say, he's had like three, you know, if you think about Mascowaku at West Ham, like he's had so many times where you feel like he's done, like he's done and he's just coming back. Yeah, Mois just sticks him in like left wing back and he just has like 10 games and he's absolutely unreal. Do you remember like when Lingard was here? Yeah, in like Mascowaku. That's the injury. He's done, he's ruined me.
00:54:10
Speaker
Yeah, well, he's too injured. I mean, I definitely don't want him back. He can't move the way he used to be. A weird stat about Masiwaku is as a left back and a back four.
00:54:21
Speaker
You know, he's only started five games in a row in that position once. Yeah, it was. It was like the same. No, it was April 2019 under pill. OK, yeah, I knew it was 18. He was he was so good in that run of games. That was when we got. Yeah, the Manchester City games, the game I'm thinking of, we got robbed. That was my birthday. Yeah, we got robbed in that game. Was that was that when Anderson? Yeah.
00:54:50
Speaker
Yeah, it was winning the score twice, but the one was disallowed and Antonio hit the bar. Yeah, and Tony hit the bar. Didn't go on and played that game. Yeah, and Pogba scored two penalties. Yeah. I don't think one wasn't the penalty, I don't think.
00:55:04
Speaker
No, yeah, one of them wasn't. And then the other one was Ryan Fredericks. I mean, he had to. He had to for sure. I could not stand Ryan Fredericks. But then I think the Fredericks tackle, I think Marcia was offside for that.
00:55:25
Speaker
Yeah, that adds up.
VAR Controversies and Transfer Valuations
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah, it was a preview. I mean, VAR doesn't matter, Old Trafford. We conceded a goal last year, Old Trafford, that was offside and wasn't disallowed. Yeah, and then the one where the ball went over Moises' head at the touch line. Oh, that was hard. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that was...
00:55:52
Speaker
So on these expiring players, Manu lands in, you need to defend him. He's not on small wages anymore. I don't care. I would keep him around too. I think he's going to leave. Oh, he's absolutely going to leave. He's going to be playing for Riverplate next season. We feel like you need to renew most of them to keep their value. No. We need the dressing room. There's no one from the dressing room left. Kufaul is the only one that you're losing value. Will Kufaul and Lanzine are the only two that you're really losing value on?
00:56:22
Speaker
Creswell is going to be 34 next season. Fabiancie is going to be 38 in April. And Agvano is going to be 35 in May, and he tore his ACL last season.
00:56:35
Speaker
I mean, personally, even if I wanted those retire or whatever happens, I would want him to be kept around the club. Oh, for sure. I mean, yeah, I agree. Can he coach? Like, I don't know, but most likely, I think it's been underrated how much of a leader he's been for this team for a long time. And I think the last two years or so, people are finally starting to take notice of that, which is nice.
00:57:00
Speaker
I think that I definitely agree. I was going to say in terms of expiring players, I think the good thing is we're not good with rice, but the thing that would be quite satisfying with rice going is we're actually going to get good money for a player. Think about how many players we've sold higher on out of it. We rejected 50 million for an out of it. Yeah, it's a deal where you're like 20.60 million.
00:57:26
Speaker
Yeah, we rejected a hundred million for Dimitri Pi, or we asked for a hundred million for Dimitri Pi. Yeah. Like the factors, if we get like even 70, I think minimums, it's got to be, it's got to be about 80, but if it's below 80, I'm going to be upset. If it's below 80, I'm going to be upset. I think it will be about 80. If we go down, like if we go down, I think, I think it might be a hundred flat.
00:57:53
Speaker
If we stay up the near 100 flat, I mean, the other thing is I've been thinking about it for like a while now. What if no one pays 100 for Declan Rise? Do we like keep him? Is he going to like push for the transfer? Well, the thing is, I think what's good is that he'll definitely push, but I also think that
00:58:17
Speaker
with both Chelsea and Arsenal ideally showing legitimate interest one of them is going to have to make the move so the other one doesn't get them yeah and then you also got like Liverpool if Bellingham goes to Madrid
00:58:31
Speaker
Yeah. Liverpool can't afford him. They're broke. I think he's set. Arsenal's. I think Arsenal's kind of set for all the top sources. I'm happy with that. I'd rather Arsenal did. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, Joe is already a borderline Arsenal fan.
00:58:52
Speaker
I do like their team. Yeah, I love the Arsenal players now. This time next year, I'll hate them now. The fans are going to be on verbal. If Rice goes to Arsenal, are you going to like Fred is down for? No. If you went to Chelsea, then yeah. If Rice goes to Arsenal, I hope they win the Champions League. Yeah, that's maybe true.
00:59:23
Speaker
And I hope his score is the only goal. Yeah, no, I couldn't, I don't think I could bear him down to Chelsea. I don't think, surely it won't happen anyway if they're not going to get him. I don't think. Mounts leaving all, makes the Mounts going to Liverpool, so. Yeah, I don't think Rice is going to be a Chelsea player. Thank God that we made it out of that. Yeah. Who else would you sell this summer?
00:59:48
Speaker
Oh, tough one. It's got to be, it's got to be two checks. Oh yeah. And, oh, Antonio's got to go. Antonio, Antonio, Antonio. Press well. Press to go. I think Antonio's going to go on a free. I think Antonio has actually become, not now in terms of his ability now, but I think his time has definitely come underrated. He's been used this season, like completely utterly useless. It's like West Ham Korea, not this season, but like it's kind of come underrated what he's done in the past.
01:00:17
Speaker
No, I don't think so. I think so. I don't know. I don't think I'll sell many other players. Yeah, I agree with that his time's been underrated. Well, we have a small squad, especially for a team that wants to be in Europe or might be in Europe. I wouldn't be against selling career. I just think that it's too much squad turnover at once if we do do that. Yeah.
01:00:42
Speaker
But I think yeah, Antonio Gotta go. I think Obama. Hopefully we'll play some part next season We just like we don't have any players to sell we start selling even like selling rice and soup check That's funny even selling rice and soup check in the same summer is a risk to an extent because we don't have players Well, that's true
01:01:04
Speaker
On the real though, what do we do with Danny Aings pass this season? He's on £150,000 a week. We just pray to whatever god there is that these two years go quickly.
01:01:18
Speaker
I think, is the only one? No, surely he's got more two years contract. I think it's a two and a half year contract. That's terrible. Yeah, it was awful business, wasn't it? I think Antonio will go. Hopefully Moiscon's consensus reads Skamaka. Because Antonio wants to leave anyway. Skamaka will start Ings back up. That's the thing, I don't hate Ings if he's just like a guy that we have available.
01:01:43
Speaker
Under a different manager, Inks would be more than fine. Like, for example, let's say Pellegrini. Like, we've seen Pellegrini utilise Chicharito very, very well. And like... Yeah, we have. I thought you were going to say, under Michael Carrick, you pulled out the Pellegrini card. Nah. I mean, under Carrick...
01:02:08
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Chuba Akpom isn't really an explosive striker, so maybe Danny Ings would work well with him. I would trust Michael Carrick with my life. Do you know who we should get if Arsenal want that come right? Balgaon. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I agree. I've literally been on the train of getting him to be a US player since he was not making senior appearances because I knew him. Yeah, because he dropped out the England squad.
01:02:37
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He was in Orlando this week and the US squad was in Orlando, but he didn't commit to us. So he was, he was at the magic game. He's at the magic mix game. I think it's ridiculous.
01:02:47
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Yeah, maybe he's talking to them. Maybe he would be our starting striker at the US team. Yeah. What was he gonna do? Play Haji right over him? He's awful. He's awful, but the hold-up play against England was something special. I still refuse to know if Haji right exists. He does not. He's an NPC. He does not exist. That's not a real player.
01:03:17
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That goal he scored versus Holland. Yeah, that was ridiculous. He missed a sitter like before that. Yeah, like two seconds before that he missed a sitter. I like how the one good game I'll ever watch him play was against England though.
01:03:34
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and he still, I'm pretty sure he misses it in that game too. I think so. That was a bad game. Does he play in Turkey or somewhere? He does not play in Sweden. I think that's a good place to wrap it up though. It's like slowly with the international break and everything. So thank you guys for listening. Don't forget to
01:04:03
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01:04:26
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