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S2 Ep162: Dave
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Join Dave and Jake as we talk about...Dave?
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Introduction and Episode Setup
00:00:08
Speaker
How's it going, everyone? Welcome to another episode of Soapstone. My name is Jake. I'm joined by my co-host, as always, Dave. How's it going tonight, Dave? Oh, it's going okay. Went for a walk, had some dinner. Nevermind the earlier stuff. How about you? You did pretty well.
00:00:26
Speaker
kind of a work day, but now it's done. Got a little bit of Starcraft in before all this. Ready to do this newfangled format in depth.
Unpreparedness and Its Effects
00:00:41
Speaker
Perhaps personal probe of Dave's emotions and logical state. The ego, the id. I made sure to come into this sober just in case. I will say full disclosure. We talked about the episode topic loosely a while back, but I
00:01:06
Speaker
I'm just here. Right. Yeah. How does that feel? That's the first. I guess the second question. The first question was how are you doing? Glad you're doing all right. How does that feel to go into an episode with zero preparation? Because I mean, it's got to be. What's it from every episode? Cue the laugh check right there. There we go. Yeah.
00:01:25
Speaker
I mean, I'm a little bit apprehensive, obviously. But in the same way, like back in the Diablo 2 episode, we had that little mini game of like, oh, let's see how many sound effects Dave can guess and associate with an item in Diablo 2. And again, like that's something that you prepared. And I was just kind of like, oh, I get to play along. So that's good. I do like how I feel for this concept.
Humorous MySpace Survey Question
00:01:48
Speaker
Well, now to reveal the format.
00:01:51
Speaker
I have a lot of questions prepared that I have sourced from the internet. I will say most of these are not from the current internet, but rather the internet when we were significantly younger. So starting off with this set of questions from a MySpace survey. Do you think you are pregnant?
00:02:14
Speaker
I would not consider myself at this time to be pregnant. That's good. That's good. I figured open with a softball. All right. Listen, this immediately gets it ramps up. If you're consisted of only one season, which would you choose?
00:02:34
Speaker
fall. I feel like fall is the most temperate and I grew up in PA. So I also would have picked fall follows by far the best season.
00:02:44
Speaker
I don't have to shovel leaves. And I don't cry when I go outside. It doesn't have negatives, the positives, who knows, but it doesn't have negatives. And that's what we're going for. That's fair. I'd also pick fall.
The Allure of Fall Season
00:03:01
Speaker
It's the prettiest season, I think. And not super hot, not super cold. You can just do whatever, you know, I guess, except swimming for the most part.
00:03:12
Speaker
I like how I get to give my answer and then you're like, I'm gonna clarify this one. Right. Well, I feel the need to jump in because I can resonate with fall in particular. But as you're in such a rush to go ahead, you've had sex within these last 10 days having you is the next question.
00:03:29
Speaker
Oh my God. It's also stated. I'm going to say no and not give the actual number. That's a funny one. You have to get a piercing. What do you get? I don't think I ever really grew up wanting piercing so much. A long time ago, I think I had a brief fascination with pirates. So maybe one in my ear, but I don't think it would suit me now.
00:04:01
Speaker
Maybe one on a nipple. I take like my left nipple and I can like hang something from it. A single. I mean, that begs the follow up question. What would you hang from it? Is this like a rosary or? Maybe like a dream catcher. A dream catcher. Yeah.
00:04:19
Speaker
I'm working on a nude look. This definitely unfolds interestingly. My concern would be if for any type of piercing is it's
Navigating Breakups and Social Connections
00:04:29
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like, even though I don't think like either of us engage in street fights, that should be a concern, you know, you know, like, all right, I've got a dream catcher piercing on my nipple. That's not ideal, right? Yeah, I mean, I guess somebody could
00:04:47
Speaker
I'm assuming I'm wearing clothes at the point of the street. That's fair. It's not like they're their side. I mean, they're like.
00:04:55
Speaker
his one nipple seems a bit bigger than the other. Maybe there's a number, there's a piercing I can grab. Make a perception check. They're like, all right, this is the weakness. It would be funny though. It's just like, all right, let's get ready for this fight. The shirts come off. There's like the reveal. Well, usually that's done to like threaten people. And I don't think anyone's ever seen me shirtless and been like, oh no, I'm in for it.
00:05:19
Speaker
If anything, it gives them power and motivation to kick my ass. That's fair. That is fair. This one might be a little easier. You have to get it to two. Where and what do you get? So I have three already, as you know, I'm not sure if the audience does. Right. They're all around my dick. Just the massive surface.
00:05:44
Speaker
Yeah, they do it flaccid, thankfully. But the fourth one, I think, was an accordion. You should hear my dick sometime. The people in the Alps love it.
00:06:00
Speaker
The fourth one I think was loosely planned I'm not sure if I'm gonna follow up with it, but I either wanted the yorha logo from near automata or The
Pandemic Reflections on Physical Contact
00:06:13
Speaker
one ending I think it was e
00:06:16
Speaker
No, it was C, meaningless code, which would go on my other forearm. So I'd have balance. Oh, that's nice. Because on the left I have stay determined from Undertale. I do like that. Yeah, I mean, near is near is obviously really nerdy. But I think that if you're going to get a tattoo, that's what you got to do, like get something that you're interested in.
00:06:39
Speaker
Right. Like, yeah, I don't want to get something random or something that looks cool. It has to be something for me, because I'm the one who's going to primarily see it all the time. Right. Mm hmm. Which is why I'll never get a back tattoo. Because yeah, kind of pointless, really. Oh, like I'm getting ready to go in the shower. I just feel like these quick, like 360 degree jumps. I saw it for a little bit. Still there. Next one is what are you wearing? Now, you can't lie to me, but you can lie to the audience.
00:07:10
Speaker
A t-shirt, gym shorts, and I currently have a a hoodie just kind of like draped over my legs like I'm an old woman. That's good. It was about to knit. That is good. Hmm. All right. Now we're going to get into depressing ones. But, you know, I don't vet these. I'm just here to convey the questions. Do you miss anyone? Oh, my God. Yeah, I miss tons of people.
00:07:39
Speaker
Okay, I can name some. Yeah, that's all right. I mean, yes, that is that is an answer. So for me, I don't really miss a whole lot of family. I mean, I probably miss like my direct cousins and my aunt and uncle on my dad's side.
00:08:00
Speaker
I miss a lot of older relationships of like people who I dated or associated with in that way, but I don't really keep in touch anymore. And I say I don't because I'm very much a bridge burner where because I'm a codependent person and like I'm never the one to end or we're getting deep already. So since I'm not the person to end things, they're usually ended for me. Um,
00:08:27
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for me to go on and cope and like, oh, I'll
Family Dynamics and Health Challenges
00:08:30
Speaker
just cut that person out of my life. Fuck them. I don't need them. And that usually takes like a year or two and then I chill out. You go for the more complete separation from the situation instead of trying to like adapt what you've got going on. You find absolute removal there to work better. There's definitely a skill in it, but I've never learned it. Um,
00:08:57
Speaker
I feel like it would be a good skill to learn though. I do remember in college, I was dating this girl, Colleen. It's been years. Right. For another show. We'd love to have her on as a guest. Well, I'm glad you say so, Dave, because... Join call sound.
00:09:25
Speaker
I'd be, I'd be literally so impressed. Um, but like we dated, uh, she ended things over Christmas break. She wasn't feeling it, whatever it was. That's a rough one. And then like, we're still part of like that same friend group, but for me, I'm like, I just don't like the situation. I'm just not going to be a part of it. So I would skip group meals and other things. And then our friend Mel like just said to me once like, Hey, um,
00:09:52
Speaker
Can you get over this? Cause like this really sucks for everybody else. Like I understand how you're like, she was supportive. She's like, I understand how you're feeling, but like you got a, and I was like, all right, that's a fair kick in the pants to like, and I did get better and made efforts to socialize more. I 100% believe that from Mel. She's very pragmatic and like, Hey,
00:10:15
Speaker
I'm just going to try to solve this or help resolve the situation or help you resolve the situation. Rather than, I feel like my personality in that situation, be like, oh man, this sucks. I've been just like get quiet about it, not say anything, but I don't want to get involved in people's personal drama. Just being somebody willing to give that advice is a useful skill that I do not always have.
00:10:40
Speaker
Yeah, I would also probably tend more towards the, I want to be supportive. Also, anytime somebody gives me something, like they share a piece of their life like that, I'm very much like, how can I fix this for you? And if I don't have an answer, I'm just like, that fucking sucks and I'm sorry. But I want to have a fix. I think that could be sometimes the answer though, you know, like I, or at least when I've been, you know,
00:11:06
Speaker
We've talked about relationship stuff in the past. And one thing I think that I've learned more as life goes on is people don't always need an MSN messenger psychologist. Sometimes people just want to talk about it and then not have a resolution. Just talk about it.
00:11:29
Speaker
There's no magical fix. There's no like, and here's the yellow door key. And telling me about your relationship is what unlocked it now go through that door. Right. It's just like, no, that does suck. And thanks for sharing. You know, like hope things get better. Yeah. It's really just more so acknowledgement. It's like, Oh, I'm not crazy for feeling this way. Yeah. It's a, it's a normal thing. Yeah, for sure.
00:11:58
Speaker
Yeah, I miss those people and then there's a couple of other friends who I just don't keep in touch with as much anymore. Probably half of them are my fault. I'd say the other half are probably not.
00:12:12
Speaker
But like I still look back fondly on some of those relationships. I'm like, oh, I liked having them in my life, but whatever it was, whether it felt too one-sided or something, it just didn't pan out that way. Your parents were right. It was just a phase. Something like that. I get that. Sometimes you have friendships where it's like, this was
00:12:33
Speaker
foundational to your life experience, right? But perhaps it's not completely relevant to where you're at right now. Yeah, it's like phases of life in a way, or like chapters, like, I don't think everybody who you're, who you meet or engage with is going to be with you forever. Right. Depending on your view of the afterlife, none of them will.
00:13:00
Speaker
But yeah, I get that. The next question to keep things going here. When is the last time someone of the opposite sex gave you a hug?
00:13:13
Speaker
Uh, a couple of weeks ago, your wife. What? And you watched it happen. You fucking curve. Yeah. Republicans have a term for that. No, uh, no, I get that. I think that, um, part of that's been like, we're still winding down off the pandemic, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:37
Speaker
But I mean, I feel like even before pandemic, when I lived down the street from you guys, I saw you guys probably multiple times a week. I'm sorry about that. But we didn't see you. You saw us. That was the weird part. Close the blinds, Dave, nearby.
Ephemeral Nature of Relationships
00:13:56
Speaker
But yeah, we're not, and it's not just like, it's like a lot of us, a lot of my friend group in general or our friend group are not huggers by nature. But if it's like been a while or like at a LAN party, it's like, hey, how you been? And they're like, yeah, hugs are exchanged. But usually outside of that, not as much. Do you think like part of that is just
00:14:19
Speaker
Like hugs are kind of taken for granted until the pandemic, perhaps. Like coming out of the pandemic, it was really obvious. I mean, when you had the Discord status, like please hug me, I'm desperate. But like the other thing, I can't remember what it was. It was close to that. I mean, it's literally still here. It's still it's like I miss hugging people. I miss hugging friends. Yeah.
00:14:39
Speaker
But it was really emphasized, right? Like the lack of any sort of contact like that, side hugs, coming out of the pandemic, you're like, you know what, that does sound nice. I could go for a hug. Yeah, it's just, it's nice. Yeah, it's probably, it's like an absence makes the heart grow fonder thing. Like when we did the land parties, it was once every six months. And a lot of those people we didn't see in between those six months.
00:15:07
Speaker
So that's the time for everyone to get back together, embrace, share stories and drinks. Yeah. I definitely get that. There's the buildup of solitude that you need to break through with a good hug sometimes. But with any of my friends, I feel like it would be fine to be like, oh, when you hang out, it's like, hey, you're just a welcome hug and a goodbye hug. Right. Yeah. It's just a greeting. Easy as that.
00:15:30
Speaker
It's not gay. So it was a kiss. Right. Little Phil ski. A little push squeeze, you know? Yeah, exactly. A little hand ski. Only from the other person's wearing a backpack, though. So yeah, make it fair. It was a callback for recurring listeners.
00:15:48
Speaker
Plans for tomorrow, question mark. It does bother me a little bit that this is clearly a MySpace survey because some of these are not actual questions. They're just broken statements with a question mark at the end. Plans for tomorrow, question mark. Taxes, question mark. Fraud. Next question. It's typically going to be some work stuff throughout morning and afternoon. That's a boring question. Plans for Saturday.
00:16:17
Speaker
Oh, doing, doing some party stuff with some people. Yeah. And if you're good people, you're already in the know. And if you're not in the know, I still think you're a good person, but, uh, the party, I don't know. I want to do like a small ish get together for like a first post COVID thing. Yeah.
00:16:41
Speaker
That's fair. No one listens to this, so you're not going to snub anybody. Probably not, but got some fun stuff. I don't want to say planned, like I have events planned. I've invited some cool people. You have a venue. My apartment will be clean-ish. That's pretty good. It's a good baseline. You have a nice apartment, so it's a good start. Thank you.
00:17:06
Speaker
Fun MySpace survey. So that's not a question. That's just probably copy-pasted here in the center. Is anything wrong? Question mark. How deep do you want to go with this? I don't know. We'll start not super deep and then dive if we need to. We'll check the oxygen meter. We'll go like 20 feet down. I'll just wait for your facial expression to change, and then I'll be like, OK.
00:17:36
Speaker
So health-wise, my insides have always been shitty in that I have a condition called ulcerative colitis, which is my intestines don't process stuff so good and they get easily irritated by caffeine, spicy stuff, greasy stuff, or just excitement in general.
00:17:58
Speaker
So like it could be like a pot or rather stressors. So it could be like a positive stress like, Oh, I'm going to see two friends get married. How exciting is that? But like that excitement, it stresses the body and like, that's just stupid. I'm on medication for it, but they might be bumping the medication because I don't know. It's, it's not, it's not working as good as it was six months ago. That's definitely rough.
00:18:26
Speaker
This isn't exactly news to me, but, you know, we're laying it all out for the listeners. And I guess I never have really heard that level of detail. I realize that I probably because I've never just asked, Dave, what are your medical conditions? Do you have any crazy conditions before we start this podcast?
00:18:46
Speaker
Asthma, that's why I'm so quiet. The scoliosis, which I feel is like a meme. For me it is at this point. I got one of them sexy spines in that it has the curve. The curve in all the wrong places. No, that's fair. That's the physical stuff. Mental stuff I think is just...
00:19:12
Speaker
general sadness of just like the isolation and not having drive to do anything. I get that. Who was the, um, it wasn't Ryan Reynolds. That's the other one, Ryan.
00:19:28
Speaker
See? Gosling. Gosling. Gosling is what I'm thinking of. OK. This is a movie called Drive. That's it. That's the reference I'm making. Oh. OK. I thought you were going to share some insightful story. Nope. Hopefully, the Saturday activity, the hosting picks up a little bit of that. I think it's going to be breakout, re-joining society event for a lot of friends. Yeah. I plan to get decently buzzed.
00:19:59
Speaker
I'm debating if I'm going to set up a section for you to play board games or not. I don't need a section. I can use the floor. You'd have to just arrange furniture all throughout your apartment to minimize available floor space. No group can now congregate here because of the Venus lie trap or something like that. I like that. Set up some apartment traps.
00:20:28
Speaker
Can't do a four player game here because of the spikes. Yeah, you just have like the Sonic the Hedgehog, like comically and just like there's just a spike. Or traffic cones would be the safer version of actually be hilarious. With knives attached. Okay. Do you have a good relationship with your parents?
00:20:52
Speaker
In short, no. Like, we're not on bad terms. I'll call my mom usually once or twice every week. Or no, sorry, once every one to two weeks. Yeah. And that's just to see how she's doing and how crazy she's gotten. That's way better than me, though. Yeah.
00:21:14
Speaker
But I mean, like we're not, we're not close. I don't think they get me as a person. I think they love me and I love them. But beyond that, it's kind of, it feels fuzzy compared to what I know some other people have, but I don't feel like I'm missing anything for it so much. Do you think that's just, do you know why that is or do you have theories about why that might be? Do you think that's just because of like how divergent your worldviews are and life experiences or?
00:21:45
Speaker
Probably. Because growing up, it was very Christian household conservative. My parents were strict in comparison to other families who were just kind of what I would consider to be normal. Right. And it wasn't in a bad way. It definitely shaped a bit of who I was early on. But then when I got to that quote unquote rebellious stage where I'm like,
00:22:11
Speaker
you guys don't know everything, let me find something out on my own. And then I was hanging out with some other people. I'm like, okay, maybe it's not
Evolving Friendships Over Time
00:22:18
Speaker
God and other things. Maybe it's just separate stuff entirely. And then I think I just, between that and like the college age, I'm like, oh, they're just people who birthed me. Okay. Right. Yeah.
00:22:37
Speaker
I mean, that sounds as a standard for the listener, I guess, in this particular case, like that sounds cold. You know, it's like people who birthed me because hopefully I feel like most people strive for more than that. You know, they raised me, obviously. Right. And kudos to them. I don't think I was always the best kid, but also pretty fucking good. All right. Yeah. Like it wasn't that hard. But it was medium, medium difficulty child. I get that.
00:23:09
Speaker
I get that. Another serious question. Are your friends taller than you? I didn't put this one in here. I mean, wow. Wow. I'm doing the Justin. Wow. Whoa. But yeah, almost everybody is. I think Jenny and I are the same height at five five. I don't think I have any friends shorter than me, actually. That's good.
00:23:36
Speaker
Or if I do, uh, we, they're not coming to mind. We haven't hung out recently. Right. Well, they're intimidated. Um, yeah, I've got no follow up to that whatsoever. I think it's just a funny one. How tall are you by the way, for the listener? Probably six feet. It's around there. It's like six feet, six one, but it's not six one. So it's like six feet.
00:24:00
Speaker
We'll say go back and watch the first video. Do the math. Thank you. Let us know. Let's see. What were you doing this morning at 5 30? Interesting question.
00:24:18
Speaker
I mean, I actually probably will go by that point. I was very upset and I went to the bathroom and I went back to sleep. That's fair. That's fair. I suspect this is the question that like 90% of the time is the most boring answer. And then like 10%, it's like it was freaking bang, freaking rager, you know, like doing cocaine or something crazy. I was doing a work deployment. Another crazy answer. What were you doing two hours ago? Looks at the clock.
00:24:49
Speaker
I think I was just finishing my walk around the apartment complex and then I got a shower and then I was like, what can I shape into food to put into my body? That's fair. It was a sandwich, but I use sour cream as the spread. I thought it was okay. You can't see squints, but there's a squint. Okay. You know how you like sour cream, right? On things. Yeah. And that thing is bread.
00:25:21
Speaker
It could work. It wasn't the ideal use of sour cream, but it tasted good. Any port in the storm sort of situation? There's something good. I have no spreads. All right, sour cream. Here we go. Stop at the port. Do you have sour cream? Fuck. Or that's all they have. Stopping for a meal and a drink. And they're like, now we just have the cream.
00:25:47
Speaker
It's a bed and breakfast. Here's your morning parfait, sour cream. No berries. That doesn't sound very good. I'll be honest. Um, do you like the ocean? A little bit. It's fun to watch. It's calming.
Fear of Water and Comfort Zones
00:26:04
Speaker
I'll even put my body in it to a degree, but I don't like going to swim in it. Yeah. It's big. It's too big to swim in, I think.
00:26:14
Speaker
Yeah, I just don't like the possibility of my head going underwater where oxygen is not like the point that out to everybody. This isn't on the list. Is it called agoraphobia? Is that what I'm thinking? I think that's a fear of water. That's hydrophobia. Agoraphobia is a fear of people. The yes might cause panic. Which one am I thinking of? Deep water fear, deep water fear.
00:26:44
Speaker
Thalassophobia. Thalassophobia is a persistent and intense fear of deep bodies of water, such as the ocean or the sea. I wouldn't say it's persistent or what was the other word? I don't know. I already closed the tab. Thalassophobia. I could be on like a boat or something, but I'm just not trying to like jump out of the boat. You know, that's all. Right.
00:27:10
Speaker
That's fair. Yeah. I don't really particularly like large bodies of water either. They're disconcerting. So I, I empathize. I empathize with your answer. Put me in a pool. I just want to get like my nipples underwater. I want to splash around and have a, have a Mai Tai, you know? There you go. Mai Tai's a drink chick. I figured I figured some sort of drink. I was like, it's probably not like actual Thai food. I love spicy curry when I swim. Uh,
00:27:41
Speaker
This is this is an interesting one. I wonder, OK, would you rather sleep with someone else or alone? Can we go back to that 10 days joke? Because this one's. Huh, you know. I guess how do you interpret that question?
00:28:00
Speaker
Well, I mean, obviously they're not talking about sex for that. I think they're just talking about sleep sleep. Right. It would be weird. Do you like sexing other people or yourself? Do you like sex or I guess what we'd call masturbation?
00:28:17
Speaker
Uh, I do like sleeping with somebody. I like a degree of snuggling, but if it gets too warm, I don't like spooning. Like we can go back to back. I like that you're there and you're by and like, maybe we can reposition like spoon again. But if it's hot as fuck.
00:28:35
Speaker
You have a rotational system. Exactly. Yeah. It is nice to like, even if it wasn't somebody who I was dating or sleeping with sexually, like let's just say, let's say you have a friend over and it's like, hey, can I rest your place? Yeah, I don't have a couch or anything set up. Yeah, you can just sleep in the bed. That still has like a comforting property to it. True, right. So I'd say overall with somebody.
00:29:03
Speaker
that's fair yeah i'm curious like who responds alone to this question i know that people would exist must exist oh yeah that would be like that but it's definitely a foreign concept to me probably somebody who's not as much
00:29:20
Speaker
I don't want to say codependent, but somebody who's very much, they like doing their own stuff in general, sleep and just be a natural extension of it. I just think like American psycho. That's where I go. Like, oh yeah, super business oriented and morning regimen. This entire queen size bed is for me. Something like that. How many windows are open on your computer?
00:29:42
Speaker
They're going to say in my apartment, like none. So is Windows just applications? I think it's probably applications. This was potentially before we had tabs and browsers. I don't know. So six applications. If we're talking browser tabs, that's six on that one and four on the other one. So 10.
00:30:07
Speaker
It's pretty good. Solid number. I've seen a really crazy browsing tab numbers in the past. Are you, here's a follow-up question based off that. Are you the type of person who closes out browser tabs or do you leave them open forever? It depends what it's for. So I leave them open forever. I'm never going to find that link again. I don't even remember the keywords.
00:30:34
Speaker
So, for right now on the non-incognito browser, I have like the soapstone topics list for like week to week. I have up a recipe from Jenny that I'm hoping to at some point try out. And I'm leaving it up there because if I close it, I'll never fucking go back to it. But if I leave there, it's that constant reminder of like, you should cook this at some point.
00:30:57
Speaker
Right. And then I have our podcast notes up. And then I have another recipe for like something on Saturday that I want to try and do. And also leave it up for things I want to watch, whether that is porn or something on YouTube. It's like this is for later. Acute. It could be the same overlap between those two things. Next question is texted. Question mark. I have no idea what that means. Do you know what that means? No.
00:31:27
Speaker
I don't know either. Was the first person you talked to today male or female? Male because of who I work with. That's fair. Who was the last person you rode in a car with? Been doing a lot of self-driving. Self-motivated individual. Driven. Brian Gosling. That's a tough one. It's been a bit.
00:31:56
Speaker
Was it us? Cause we did drive in your car when we went out to get food. Yeah. When we went to pick up the Chinese. Um, yeah, I think it was probably, probably you guys. That's fair. You spoiled this one already. What woke you up this morning? Needing to share. Back to personal ones for a second. Uh, do you know anyone named Matt? Yes.
00:32:25
Speaker
All right, fun MySpace surveys. That's the thing. When was the last time you talked to a sibling? I have no siblings. The survey has crashed. Does that have to be my siblings? Or somebody's siblings. Because I've talked to you, and you have siblings. That's true. That is true. Is your hair curly or straight? Straight, like me. Looks into camera.
00:32:52
Speaker
That was actually gonna be my follow up joke immediately was, are you earlier straight? So good. Do you wear glasses? I do not, but I might need to at some point. I feel that. It's like on the computer. Great driving. Thank God the GPS exists because road signs are a motherfucker. I like this one because this is one that they might've just primed with the previous questions. Are you currently jealous?
00:33:22
Speaker
Maybe like to like small degrees of some people. Right. And do you know the difference between jealousy and envy? Not on my head. No. I thought there was anonymous. I know that there is something. So I'm pretty sure envy is I think envious being envious is wanting something someone else has and jealous is.
00:33:48
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keeping what you have. I think that's actually true, but people like modern times we use them interchangeably. The Simpsons has a scene on it. I think a significant other can be jealous of, like if their partner is giving somebody else attention, they can be a jealous boyfriend, jealous girlfriend. So that kind of fits in line with what you were saying.
00:34:15
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Yeah, the definition apparently is envy means discontented longing for someone else's advantages and jealousy is unpleasant suspicion or apprehension of rivalship. Oh, I then have literally no jealousy. Yeah, I think almost all the time we think of envy. Yeah.
Digital Clutter and Memory Keeping
00:34:34
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That's the snobbish answer. And again, source to The Simpsons, because for some reason in an episode, Homer knew the difference between jealousy and envy, and he says it to Lisa. And I'm like, what? What is this? Educational, though. Good to know. Next question is, what are you doing today? What are you doing today?
00:34:58
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answering questions. What jewelry are you currently wearing? If any. Are you blinged out? None? Okay. I'm not a jewelry wearer. Not yet until that nipple piercing. Could you go the rest of your life without smoking a cigarette? Yes. Have you ever in any way been betrayed by someone you trust?
00:35:30
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Yeah. I'm trying to think of anything that was actually major. I think more so it's just like miscommunication between people. Like I don't think anybody's taken my information and then like dumped it to somebody else. I would consider that to be a betrayal of trust. Right. Something kind of secret to you or personal that wasn't intended to be shared.
00:36:00
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Yeah, nothing is jumping the mind of like so and so did this. I'm sure it's happened though. What did you do? What did you do? Are you talking to me? Yes, I'm talking to you. What did you do? What did I do? Did you do anything?
00:36:18
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No, I don't think so. Wait, you mean to betray you? I don't believe so. Not that I know of. We'll get them next time, boys. Yeah, nothing's jumping to mind, sorry. No, that's actually, I mean, that's a good answer, I think, because like, I think that answer actually shows some maturity in a way, because I feel like, you know, go back to like high school years or like early college years and it might be like,
00:36:45
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you would qualify or you would put, maybe not particularly you, but individuals could hear this question and say, of course I've been betrayed by someone I trust. I was in this relationship and they didn't have the same expectations I had or something like that, right? Like they betrayed my trust in that aspect. But your answer was just like, did they intend to hurt me in this way? And I think that was actually a good answer.
00:37:14
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Like if somebody, to my knowledge, nobody's ever cheated on me. Um, if you have, don't tell me now. Um, but I would consider that to be like a blatant, regardless of your intention, you fucked up and that's definitely betrayal of trust. Um,
00:37:34
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Yeah, either people don't talk to me much or just not much has happened in my life. Yeah, I feel like people talk to you. So must be the second. How late did you stay up last night and why?
00:37:49
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What the fuck are these questions? They're from MySpace. There's not quality here. Maybe like Midnight30 because video games and hanging out with people online. And then realizing that I still have to pretend to log into work and stuff. This is also a funny question. Are you picky about who you give your number to? You know, your phone number for phones.
00:38:17
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What? I mean, I don't give my number out to people. Um, this isn't like high school. It's like, Hey, let's text or be friends or hit up on aim or something. So it's not happening a long time. I guess if like, let's say I was at a party and I met somebody new, whether it was
Fast Food Preferences
00:38:38
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romantic or friendly.
00:38:41
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I could theoretically see giving out some degree of contact information if we were hitting it off. But someone's like, hey, you seem cool. Let me get your number. I'd be like, who the fuck are you? How do you know I have a number? That's fair. Why do you think I'm cool? You're a fucking idiot. That's a good one. This is a trap. What do you prefer, McDonald's or Burger King? Burger King.
00:39:09
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I haven't eaten there in probably a decade, but remember the fries were okay. I also prefer Whoppers too, although Big Mac sauce is pretty good. Fun MySpace surveys. Would you rather go to Greece or Hawaii?
00:39:32
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Hawaii because American currency is doing okay. Zing. Bing got him. I don't know, travels a bitch flat out. I don't think you can really fix that. Scenery wise, I feel like they're both going to be near bodies of water so that doesn't make much of a difference. I don't know much about Hawaiian food outside of whatever association with islands and pineapples. Right. Yeah. Maybe Greece.
00:39:58
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Greece would definitely give you more auxiliary locations to visit, right? You're like, oh, if things are going poorly in Greece, we'll literally go anywhere in Europe as a backup. You know, if you're in Hawaii and things are going to your expectations. Oops. Wake Island, I guess. Culture advisor. Yeah, cancel it.
00:40:20
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That's fair. A follow up question. If you could go someplace to visit a friend or associate or contact potential love interest. A human being. I got you. Yes. Where would you go?
00:40:38
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Is this where I want to go location wise or somebody who I want to visit? It could be both. Potentially this is scope to somebody you could visit. Yeah. That's not local. I mean, immediately jumping to mind.
00:40:59
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I'd probably want to go down in North Carolina and see some of the Dota boys. Yeah. Love interest. Yeah. A lot of my people are in PA or very PA adjacent. Some people out West, but I don't, I mean, I still enjoy seeing them, but I don't feel as much of an active need. Right. That's fair. I don't give a fuck that my family's West coast. I'll see them eventually.
00:41:28
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Did you have a good birthday this year? Uh, my instinct was immediately, no, it's COVID. But it's not like I want to actively do things for my birthday. It's more so I just want people who I know and like to say, Hey man, I have a birthday. Just like that little bit of acknowledgement. Right. And everybody did.
00:41:55
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sans like three people. Two of which who got me immediately the next day and one person I think was just busy and forgot. So yeah, I did clock that shit. But no, I think overall, like people showed me love and that that made what it would have been an average day better. So thank you for that. That's a good answer.
00:42:20
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This was a post from 2008, November 2008. And that's actually the entire content of the first survey that I prepared for you to go through. Good answers. Thanks.
00:42:38
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I'm gonna grab some that I think are just gonna be more interesting to discuss. Okay. And since this is the open door for asking you personal questions that I'd never feel comfortable asking you if it wasn't going to be broadcast to the internet. Why aren't you in love with your last ex anymore?
00:43:00
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Um, so if the answer is you are, I am so sorry for asking. No, we're, we're definitely past that. I don't think I was ever in love with them. So like when we were dating, uh, she never wanted to make things official as far as title. And I think overall throughout most of it, I was fine with it.
00:43:23
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Um, then later when she's like, I don't feel anything romantically towards you and like she ended things. I'm like, maybe that's because like we never really want to try to make things moving forward. I don't know. But mainly because she ended things, I distanced myself and enough time has passed, but I don't feel that towards her. Still think she's fine as a person. Just,
00:43:54
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Right. I mean, that's that's a pretty good spot to be, you know, time heals wounds. And I mean, hurt feelings sounds like I don't know if we're conditioned to think that sounds bad, but like, yes, people can hurt feelings. And it takes time to recover from that. Follow up question. Do you smoke crack every day?
00:44:15
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I like this airbag more. Yep, I do. I wasn't going to announce it in any other format, but you know you asked me a direct question straight to the point, and yep, I smoke crack every day. Have you ever cried so much you threw up? That's an interesting one.
00:44:34
Speaker
No. I don't think that's a common biological response. I don't cry that often. That's probably just because of being a guy and it's like, when do you ever express your emotions? So like it would be like years in between like me crying about stuff.
Post-COVID Social Aspirations
00:44:52
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Even when that breakup thing happened that we're just talking about, it took me like a good bit for my emotions to come online and then it lasted for 30 seconds.
00:45:04
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And then I dabbed in my eyes, walked to the liquor store, texted a few people, got online and drunk, played games with people. Yeah. Different people cope in different ways, you know? And I puked a whole bunch. Does that count? Right. Yes, that does count. Excellent. That's the connective piece we're looking for. What are you looking forward to in the next month? And if that answer is boring, what are you looking forward to?
00:45:34
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I mean, outside of the thing I have going on Saturday of hanging out with some people here. Um, boy, how do you, I could not, I could not tell you anything. I just riled in ring. That's, that's the thing, right? You can look forward to that. Give me a fucking date. Um, that is in the future. I'm definitely looking forward to that coming out.
00:46:02
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I guess just being out more. I want to go to a fucking restaurant. I want to flirt with a waitress or just smile at a person. Right. Same thing. I could do that now, but I choose not to. You scowl and stuff. Do you like this pandemic? It was really awkward when you were the only one not wearing a mask and you just scowl into people.
00:46:24
Speaker
Well, all the stores I've been in recently to do last minute shopping, because I don't plan things well, have all been, hey, if you're vaccinated, you don't need a mask. I'm like, cool. I'll bring it with in case, because I don't know each store's policy. Maybe it's statewide. I just haven't been checking the news. They lifted the state mandate, but individual businesses can still pass it. I'll keep bringing it then.
00:46:51
Speaker
I just want to get back to being out, being social a little bit more. I want to fucking have brunch with my bitches, you know? Like, I miss that. That's a like capital case. That's the title. Yeah. Your mixtape, I think. I just miss like the going out with friends. In this case, they would be female friends and like grabbing brunch is like hanging out and eating good food.
00:47:20
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It's just like that socialization. That's fair. Maybe going to the gym again. That's not go crazy.
Personal Growth and Boundaries
00:47:30
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And I'm just kidding. You actually did that. But let's see here. Are you anything like you were at this point last year? And if that's not an interesting enough answer,
00:47:45
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What do you think the main differences, what do you think the differences are between who you are now and who you were 10 years ago? Jesus. Empathy? Yeah. Well, I guess it's sympathy in that case.
00:48:08
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Depends on which definition. I don't know how you're using it. I've only guessed two words for context so far. I thought empathy was you had to have gone through that person's situation to a degree to like appreciate how they're feeling. And sympathy was just feeling for somebody because of what they're going through.
00:48:27
Speaker
Yeah, sympathy, I believe my understanding is sympathy is feeling for someone. You feel remorse for someone or you're feeling, you feel bad for them, but empathy is feeling what they feel. So you can feel empathetic anger, sadness, depression, anything like that. Maybe being a more sympathetic person. My emotional range still feels very limited from what I think it should be. Yeah.
00:48:57
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Perhaps I shouldn't laugh with that, but that, you know, dark humor. Yeah, I just feel like it's been a fucking decade. So of course, I mean, hopefully I've fucking grown as a person. I think most people do over the course of 10 years. Hopefully, right? Yeah, really, hopefully. Jesus. And I feel like I'm just maybe just with age and not being as able to keep up with stuff, but
00:49:28
Speaker
I've learned to set some boundaries for myself as far as like drugs and alcohol and other healthy lifestyle stuff. Right. They're like, Oh, we should probably structure this to go to bed a certain time. Oh, we should probably get bills in order. Right. Just being more of trying to be more of an adult. Yeah, I was going to say adulting as a hobby, at least if not a profession.
00:49:56
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That's kind of, I think, the transition point, or at least I'm at, or roughly where we're at, is you start out and you're not adulting at all, and then you take up adulting as a hobby, and then perhaps you develop it as a profession. But I don't know. It's a side thing. Yeah.
00:50:17
Speaker
What's a good example? Two days ago for dinner, I had beefaroni and brown sugar cinnamon Pop-Tarts because the calories add up to 750, which ain't bad for a dinner. So I'm like, yeah, fuck you. I'm an adult. That's fair. I like this one. Let's say just to add to that real quick, I feel less anxious overall. So like, let's say I get invited to a party and I don't know everybody. Yeah.
00:50:47
Speaker
I'm okay with that. And I'll maybe socialize with people I do know. Maybe sometimes socialize with some of the people I don't know as well. But if at a point I don't want to be there, I'll fucking leave. It's not like the, oh, I'm committed to X amount of time. I'm like, no, it's my time. If I don't want to do something, I won't do it.
00:51:08
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You're not like trying to change yourself or your social construct to match what you expect the situation expects of you. Instead, you're just like, I'm going to show up in a bathrobe and like flip flops. What are you going to do? And then flash everybody. The traditional, traditional continuation. Yeah, not, not that extreme, but yeah. Do you ever use words like stoked, souped or sick?
00:51:40
Speaker
I've used stoked before, not super frequently. I might have said sick once in the past six months, and I've never said souped. Souped is a weird one. It's like a car thing, right? Souped up. Or I feel like you chuck Campbell's at people. You've been souped. I also like this one. Where is your default picture taken?
00:52:09
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And follow up question, do you remember what the default picture is? I'm guessing it's the picture that shows on your profile. So if we do a Facebook translation, we peep on Facebook real quick. Oh, oh, yes. So do you see what it is? It's the same one I have on Discord.
00:52:36
Speaker
Oh, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah. So it is me kind of in like a weird, tired facial expression that has been circumscribed by the poison yuck stickers from the days of old. So the original picture was taken at a winter land party and then it got memed and used in a lot of places. And then we still keep using it because it's funny. It's really good. It is really good poison help.
00:53:07
Speaker
For sure. Yeah, I think Jenny took that as well. Or if not, she just did all of the memes and stuff on top of it. That's fair. We kind of already asked that one. I'm skipping over some of the questions now. If you could go back in time and change something, would you? Yeah. OK, next question.
00:53:35
Speaker
Uh, I mean, do you want to elaborate on that or no? I guess if, if that question is asked of you, like where does your mind jump? And my instinct is to try to answer it to give you time, but that's not how this format works. So I can't.
00:53:51
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So my mind would jump to something like with relationships. If I know the lifespan of things or certain times when I fucked up and was not a great person to be around, whether it's romantic relationships or friendships, if I could like do something to improve upon that or
00:54:12
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now that I think I have less anxiety than I did 10, 15 years ago, oh, maybe I'd socialize more and change the course of certain things. Maybe I'd never date certain people or hang out with certain friends. Right.
00:54:27
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I guess the stabilizing aspect for that, and you may share the same philosophy I have on this, is I've made definitely my share of mistakes in life, and I continue to with alarming frequency. But at the same time, I look back on, not that I've had a lot of relationships, but there's an online girlfriend-boyfriend fling and all that.
00:54:51
Speaker
I think that social awkwardness in like community college or like that early relationship and ultra quotes, quotes and quotes and quotes. It's still like an emotional attachment. It all helps shape like who you are. And so, I mean, I don't know. Do you feel that you would do agree that you would be a different person if you
00:55:16
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had gone back and like made some of these fundamental changes? Like would it have impacted how you reflect on your life? Well, I assume I'm going back with the knowledge that I have today. If not, I guess it would be the same body. It would just be my state of mind. And then you're generating a new world line, I think is the process. Yeah, let's go with that.
00:55:41
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Imagine going back with like my adult body. Just kicking ass at little league and stuff. I feel like I would just be more a laid back and reasonable and overall nice person. That's also projecting thinking that I'm doing okay now. And I hope to God that I am, but I also don't care if I'm not the best person at all times. Um,
00:56:11
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I just remember like, do you remember when I dated Rachel in college? Were we friends at that point? We were. And that was my longest relationship of like three years. But like sometimes there would be issues where she would be upset at something with me or something else. And again, my go-to nature is like, how can I fix it? What do I need to do to fix it? And sometimes it wasn't. Exactly. That's what I was trying to tell her.
00:56:41
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But there were certain times where it wasn't something fixable or it's just being a younger person and not fully grasping social interactions or whatever the fuck.
00:56:57
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But I remember there was one time where she wouldn't talk to me for three days. Jeez. And I was like, yeah. But those three days, I was very hung up on it because I cared about her and I wanted to be able to interact with her normally again. Right. I don't remember what the fuck it is now because it's been a very long time.
00:57:17
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But I remember at the time, like that was the overwhelming thing that kind of like ruled my life. And now looking back, just like that, that's the story I can now tell, but that's it. Yeah. As a piece of unsolicited relationship advice, not to you, but to the audience. Your relationships don't matter. Nothing matters. It'll all be part of a Myspace survey later. No, I was going to say, um,
00:57:46
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I was gonna say, there shouldn't be an issue that causes you and the person you care about to not talk for three days. Oh yeah, like at all. Like that's fundamentally really messed up because communication is the most important thing. Sometimes it's not immediate. There's this whole Bible verse thing, don't let the sun go down on your anger and people love to like quote that all the time for relationships therapy.
00:58:13
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Sometimes let the sun go down on your anger is my advice. But don't wait three days to talk about it because that's that's just anguish on, you know, potentially both people's right. So unsolicited advice. What's your favorite color? Blue. Blue. Yeah, that's fair. That's a solid one. I think blue and red and green are the the primary colors are probably the biggest.
00:58:42
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There's some association of like favorite colors and how you describe water and your relationship with animals that like describes how you view intimate relationships or sex. Yeah. I forget what the questions is and how they associate. That's a different Myspace quiz. Another deep one. What's your favorite smell? Um,
00:59:10
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I like that. I like that you just inevitably sniffed for inspiration. You're like, Oh geez, what can I find? Whatever's going on right around here. Oh boy. I mean, I love a good coffee bean. I remember going through like the grocery store and like just smelling the beans because they had the pull tabs and you just filled up bags with coffee, coffee beans. I also like fresh cut grass. That's not a good one here.
00:59:39
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But now that I've active allergies, it's more so I liked the gasoline smell from the lawn mower. There's a nice sharp smell. That's true. Or if you can get a not so potent, but just kind of pleasant. Um, what are the little, it's like a filter you put into the dryer, dryer sheets.
01:00:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah, fabric sheets, things like that. It's like a hard fabric softener. Just makes it smell nice. Those are really good. Let's say freshly cleaned laundry. I have many a memory of just when it's done, I stick as much of my upper body in as I can. I just like rest in the warm, fresh smelling clothes. That's good.
01:00:31
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My answer is rain. I know you don't care about mine, but it's still after it rains. It's really freaking nice. I feel like rain is just blanket, good. Yeah. It sucks for being rained on, but. It cleans the world. Sometimes it's great. It cleans my color. That's really important.
01:00:54
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Yeah, the rest of these are all really dumb MySpace ones and not like in a funny way, just like, what'd you get on your report card? Or what's your eye color? What's your eye color? I think it's brown. Yeah.
01:01:08
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Check me on that. Yeah, it looks appear to be brown. I put down Hazel because it sounds more sophisticated than brown, but my eyes are also brown. So that's a pro tip also to the audience. Put down Hazel. Amber is also a good answer. Oh, I like that. Do you believe in true love?
01:01:28
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To cap this out, I think this would be a good final question, except the last one actually is, will your next kiss be a mistake? That is the most MySpace question you can have. Let me answer that one first. Not for me. I feel like
01:01:51
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I don't believe in true love because I've been dumped so many times. Yeah, that's right. I just think growing up, it was so much a put love on a pestle, like this is what it is for movies and TV.
01:02:07
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but it's really, it's an active relationship type thing. It's not just, they're really hot and they want to fuck me and they seem nice, but the later on you're like, what are their political views? Um, can they do chores around the house? Like it's, can you have, can you share a life with that person? Um, so I don't think true love exists. Like there's a singular, Oh, this is the person for you. Everybody else is shit. This is on off. That one's true love.
01:02:34
Speaker
It's like when I had my first relationship, I was so elated because I didn't think anybody would want to go near me. They're like, you're all right. I'm like, oh my God. That's the most affirmation I've ever had. And it feels really good. But then when that ended, I'm like, that was the one. You had your shot and you fucking blew it. And then I dated somebody after that. I'm like, oh my God, it's possible that like another person can like me as a person. And then I kept riding that roller coaster and then I realized,
01:03:04
Speaker
Oh, it could be fucking anybody. Right. So you can always find somebody who you mesh with. I'm not saying it's easy. And I'm not saying all the people who I've met have been perfect matches. Some are probably better matches than others.
01:03:21
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But in the end, like, those didn't work out for us. But I'm sure that at some point in the future, even though I feel like it's been two years and I don't see anything in the horizon, that I will have some interaction with somebody and wipe it off and I'll have those young butterflies again of like, I like so and so. And I think they're like me and it's a good feeling. Yeah, true love's a fucking lie.
01:03:52
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I mean, I agree. Maybe not in such aggressive terms, but it's what you make of it. And having someone else's term or definition be like, this is what love should be, is...
01:04:07
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Dangerous, I believe in relationships because then people people enter this be like, oh you should be treating me this way because that is how True love works. You're like, no, you're dating an a-hole like they're not gonna magically be better You know because they say they love you You know evaluate people based off of their actions their personality Like you just said, right? Yeah, pat ability words do not just
01:04:33
Speaker
fix a thing. Yeah. But to give you a little bit of air time, as this has been a mainly focused on me, a little bit too much, it seems. I mean, I would argue, no, given the episode is Dave. It took me months to force Jake to do this, but. Well, because we planned it months and months. I know. I'm pushing this joking narrative. I'm like, we need an episode about me.
01:05:02
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There'll be people be really suspicious when like next month's episode is also about you. I thought they'd do a jake episode, huh? That's Dave part two. Okay. All right. Maybe after that a jake episode. Dave part three. All right. Whatever. It's good. It's good content. Dave three, Dave rising.
01:05:22
Speaker
I'll have to think of a name if we ever did an extra Dave episode. I don't want to for the record. But for Dave. Oh, that's a good one. That's number four. I just want to think of a good joke. I really like that. But my question for you was, so you had that online relationship that you mentioned. Yeah. And then was there anything else before you met Jenny?
01:05:43
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Uh, no, I liked people in community college. I was attracted to individuals, but had no idea how to interact with them. Talked to Jenny about that as like a friend online. She liked me. I didn't realize it. Then, you know, years later it all worked out. So did that for you at any point feel like true love and like juxtaposition to like your previous relationship that something seemed to click more for you?
01:06:12
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No, I guess not really. That's not very romantic, but not particularly. I mean, I I'm very much an like infatuation is a thing, right? And infatuation is in my personality.
01:06:29
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for like a person, right? I'm very much like, that's the person, full infatuation mode, even if that's not at all conducive to actually establishing a relationship, right? You're like, if you're infatuated with somebody who doesn't know you exist, that doesn't help anything, right? You know? It's true. But I don't know, for me, it was,
01:06:53
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getting old enough to understand that love is about making decisions and really just thinking about the other person first. How is this going to impact them? How can I make their experience through life better? It sounds so stupid to say it that way, but that's basically the foundation of love to me.
01:07:18
Speaker
is literally just I care about your well being so much I'm going to put you first in this matter. That's literally it. And everything else just spins out of that. I think that holds up. I even held back my joke answer of gay. Yeah. It is good. It is good. But it's
01:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's over complicated by media and the pursuit of love, I think is kind of. Yeah, there are too many. There's like a series, a series of movies in the 2000 with Gerard Butler. And I can't remember who the lady was, but they had a lot of like quick one off romantic. I don't know if it's comedy is maybe they're just romance films, but they were like light hearted. Yeah.
01:08:12
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But I remember that being a driving factor of like, this is how you should treat so-and-so. I don't know. Find somebody who's nice to you and likes you for you and doesn't hold it against you. I think one of the worst things somebody can do is like, I did this for you, therefore you owe me XYZ. Right, exactly. Fuck off. It's like getting somebody a birthday present. It's like, hey, you got me for my birthday, right?
01:08:40
Speaker
What the fuck? Give somebody a gift or do something, do somebody a favor or a kindness out of love and expect nothing in return. That being said, the caveat, the other side of the coin is if the other person loves you, they should be. They should be.
01:08:57
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doing the same for you. So you should be acting on their behalf, offering back rubs, whatever. That's the number one indicator of
Debating True Love
01:09:06
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love, actually. You want to establish that, just be like, hey, do you want a back rub? No one's ever said no to that. That sounds amazing all the time. But on the other hand, yes, you should not expect immediate recompense for your actions, but
01:09:21
Speaker
If they do nothing for you ever might be a red flag. That is itself an imbalanced relationship and has its own problems, right? Love is a two way street. I feel between you having an actual long lasting relationship and me having a myriad of various whatever the fucks, we should just have like a relationship episode and people would be like, why are we listening to these guys? Yeah. But.
01:09:47
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Not to keep going, as I know, like we're at an hour ten. Do you have any questions for me? Non myspace, non survey stuff. I mean, I any price I think was a lie. I made all these. I'm just kidding. No, some of them were follow ups. I guess.
01:10:08
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I do. Like I said, I did intersperse some of my questions, but one I would ask is, because this relates to our history, do you think religion, how has religion shaped who you are as an adult who's walked away from it?
01:10:31
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I think initially religion was nice as a base of, hey, here's some overall blanket good morals. But I feel like good parenting would just do that as well. Right. Leading by example or just teaching those morals. But it is now nice to like
01:10:56
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look back and say like, Oh, I know where these people are coming from. I think they're fucking stupid for the record. Um, I don't think wanting to have a sense of community is bad. I don't think believing in a higher power is necessarily bad, but how they go about what they do with their beliefs and how it influences who they vote for or other stuff, because the Bible says X, Y, and Z is fucking stupid. Right.
01:11:26
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So I recently texted a friend back from high school era, or like, we went to church together. We actually grew up together from way back. She's like, hey, how's it going? And I'm like, eh. And I kind of just gave like a two sentence thing of like, I wish life were better, but like it is what it is type thing. And her first response, what she did do with like joking emojis was,
01:11:53
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Have you tried Jesus? Because she's a Christian and I'm not. Of course, I'm Jesus on that. Jesus asked. But then anything she said after that just felt like she has no concept of where I'm coming from because she's like, well, if we die, we're going to heaven. That's where I feel that she's coming from.
01:12:16
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So overall, I feel more learned in the world of religion that I had that experience because I wouldn't be like looking for it on my own. Yeah, I don't know. I guess like a follow up to that would be, do you ever feel a sense of not perhaps not remorse, but wistfulness or apprehension or consideration
01:12:46
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that you were in religion, they have this view of the afterlife. By walking away from that, you're basically saying, I don't believe that this afterlife is as you guys believe it is in some capacity, right? Do you ever think about that and think like,
01:13:08
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And what are your thoughts related to that? In particular, for me, I guess just for a quick reference, my family are pretty much all believers, and they believe that they're all going to see each other in this afterlife. And I'm excluded from that. They're very upset about that. And I'm also like, I don't believe it, but there's difference. You're an outside group now.
01:13:37
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Have you ever thought about how that changes your macro worldview if you don't believe in the afterlife? I asked you like five questions, answer any of them. So overall, like when I was initially going through the phase of questioning my preexisting beliefs and what I wanted to believe or just think for myself on, a question that I came back to a lot was,
01:14:07
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So like when you accept Jesus as your Lord and savior, like when any little kid does that, granted, they're not fucking smart. They don't have a whole lot of higher reasoning, but they usually do it with like their whole heart because that's all they have at that point. They put, why would you not? They put their everything into everything, right?
01:14:24
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So at that point in time, I definitely believed. So according to what they believe, I'm going to heaven because of that. And you can never really lose your relationship with God or Jesus or whoever. So in that case, going back to my logical brain, I'm fucking covered for life, bitch. Let's go.
01:14:46
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Like, I still want to be a good person. I just don't think I need to get all my morals from the Bible, some of which have questionable morals such as don't eat shrimp. Hey, gay people are wrong and don't have women in positions of power. Okay, so these things don't sound so smart. So, I don't know. It just, like with the relationship stuff, I feel it's more of a
01:15:14
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look back on as a, oh, that was a life experience, learn from it and move on. I know I've talked with my parents like, do you feel bad knowing that your kid's not going to heaven based on what you believe? And they were like, yeah. They're like, we still love you and care about you and like we want you to
01:15:38
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go to heaven with us. But I think they've kind of accepted like, I'm in God's hands now. It's not that like, Oh, I'm going to hell. It's, um, it's up to up to God. Like they can pray and you'll work it out on the side. Exactly. Right. Yeah. We've put in a Jira ticket with God. He's going to handle it. We haven't heard back in months and years on tech support titled Dave. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. I get that.
01:16:06
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But yeah, it's more so like I now just judge people who have religious beliefs if they're avid religious beliefs.
Shifting Beliefs and Morality
01:16:15
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Like if somebody on their dating profile says they're Christian, I'm like, well, like grew up Christian or like I go to church every Sunday. Like American Christian or are you following Christ? Yeah, yeah. It's like, is it just Christmas and Easter? Like what's your deal? Yeah. Because while I think those people are stupid,
01:16:36
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for like what they believe, I wouldn't want to knowingly engage with somebody knowing that I believe the opposite. I want to say like, hey, I think you're attractive. I think you're great as a person. But at some point our beliefs are going to clash because they will. And I don't think that's fair to that person. I don't think it's fair to me. Right.
01:17:00
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Yeah, I mean, there's literally a Bible verse that gets coded for this, like, don't be unevenly yoked, as usually. It's just, I guess it's related to camels. Right, yeah, exactly. Well, it's just like, you should believe the same amount. Yeah. It shouldn't be like one person's an avid believer, the other person's just like, eh, I converted.
01:17:21
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That's one of the few things, I shouldn't say few things, but one of the things I feel like religion has, or at least Christianity in the Western world, it's kind of gotten right. It's just like, oh, you're dating a non-believer. In reality, that's fine, but like for a serious relationship,
01:17:37
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you want to have the same core beliefs as the person you're with or at least compatible beliefs. Yeah. Because it's not going to work if one person's like, I'm going to heaven and my spouse absolutely is not. They're a filthy center. What are you going to do? Also, I thought of a quick joke.
01:17:57
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One reason, this is such a dumb joke, but now I feel the need to say it. Yeah, you got it. One reason I wouldn't want to like have sex with a Christian chick is because if she said, oh God, oh God, oh God, I wouldn't know if that was necessarily for me, you know? You're right. Yeah. He just says God fetish. You don't know. You don't know. Nobody knows.
01:18:22
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Yeah, I think that's we touched on many of the topics I was aiming for. Somewhat ironically, I guess, video games don't really pop up in Myspace surveys. So the one thing we never really talked about was video games other than the Elden Ring reference. And I think that's OK.
01:18:40
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I feel like if people want to know my thoughts on video games, they could listen to any episode of the podcast where I call back every single game I played when I talk about any other game I played. That's true. It does. That is our well of content. Just exhume those corpses every time. Yeah, that's good. Well, I'd like to thank special guest and host Dave for attending.
01:19:08
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Yeah. Being subjected to literally Myspace surveys. Thanks. I'll be here next week as well. Excellent. Excellent. Things continue to go according to plan. If you guys have feedback on Dave's responses, feel free to send those in at soapstonepodcast.gmail.com or you can join the public discussion of Dave at facebook.com slash soapstonepodcast.
01:19:36
Speaker
And as always, we'll see you in the next one. Have a good night.
01:20:08
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