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Ep 12: Hormones & Perimenopause 101, Part 1: Understanding Your Cycle and What in the HECK is Really Happening
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In this episode, we’re going back to the basics of our menstrual cycle. Think of it as “Hormones 101” - because once we understand the shifts and what's actually happening with our hormones, we can start connecting the dots, managing our symptoms, and advocating for better care.
Here’s what we dive into:
- The 4 phases of a typical menstrual cycle (and what’s actually going on in each one)
- How hormones like estrogen and progesterone start to shift in perimenopause
- Why symptoms like fatigue, sleep struggles, and anxiety can feel so unpredictable
- The domino effects on other hormones like thyroid, insulin, and cortisol
- Our own personal experiences with cycle changes (and some laughs along the way)
- The importance of tracking your cycle early
By the end of this episode, you’ll feel more empowered to recognize what’s happening in your own body and more prepared to bring the right questions into your doctor’s office.
Tanya’s favourite cycle tracking app: Clue helloclue.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Mission
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Welcome to What's My Age Again, the realest podcast for women who are done chasing trends and ready to feel empowered. Hi, I'm Kim. And I'm Tanya, holistic nutritionists and childhood best friends who've been there, done that, and bought the collagen.
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more than once. Each week we provide actionable steps that you can start today to help you thrive through every decade to come. We're cutting through the wellness noise to bring you honest conversations about aging, hormones, health, beauty, mindset, and everything in between.
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You see, we're also on a mission to age gracefully one WTF moment at a time, backed by research and real life. We're here to share what actually works, what's a waste of time, and how to truly thrive through the messy, magical midlife transition.
00:00:49
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We're so happy you're here. Let's dive in.
00:00:54
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to What's My Age again. Hey, Kim, how are you? Hi, Tanya. Welcome back, everybody. Thanks for being here. Thank you. So,
Personal Experiences with Early Education
00:01:05
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Kim, do you remember, total flashback, just with the start of school and everything, um do you remember grade five, Ms. Favalero's class?
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We were in a portable. I remember one lesson where these Velcro dolls were brought in called Bernie and Bernice. Do you remember that? Oh my gosh, I didn't until you just reminded me.
00:01:30
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I don't know. My brain is like this mecca of a weirdness and there are certain things I can't get rid of. And also like our ability to break out in like songs from our grade school, which my husband thinks is absolutely weird, but I do have you have that. We've broken out into song before, but anyways, Bernie and Bernice, they had these Velcro parts where you could Velcro on armpit hair and then you'd Velcro on like pubic hair.
00:01:57
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So it was like this sex ed class. And these are the things that I
Understanding Hormones and Menstrual Cycle
00:02:02
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took from it. Great. We grow hair in places we don't have it. But you know what? Most of all, when I think back to that time, is that I truly, really, for most of my life, never really understood anything.
00:02:19
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actually the dynamics behind a menstrual cycle never mind the dynamics now of things around perimenopause menopause postmenopause until I actually probably like you started studying it in school oh yeah until nutrition school 100% Tanya I completely agree and for anybody listening being like where are we going with this Today, we really want to get into like literally almost an educational, like body sex educational episode.
00:02:55
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The intention is really to talk about what in the heck is going on with our hormones during perimenopause, menopause, and postmenopause.
00:03:07
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But before we can even do that, let's I think there's so many of us that still really need that understanding about what is actually going on in a typical menstrual cycle.
00:03:20
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And the reason that Kim and I want to do this is we want to be able to give you guys the information, the tools that you need to become advocates for your own health so you can actually not only understand, be able to track and feel what's going on in your physical body, but arm you with that education. So when you're going into your doctor's office, you're armed with this arsenal of information and educated questions to ask that is going to help you in turn receive as much help and guidance as possible to kind of sift through this magical time of perimenopause.
00:04:02
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Absolutely, Tanya. Absolutely. And right now, too,
Deep Dive into Menstrual Phases
00:04:05
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there is just so much talk about perimenopause. I mean, it's in my algorithm, guaranteed, if you're going, if you're in perimenopause, algorithm to all the memes out there is and literally,
00:04:18
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We can blame every symptom on our hormones. So really the intention, like Tanya said, we're going to dig into what's actually happening with our hormones, because as Tanya said, just like us, we didn't grow up understanding our hormones or our menstrual cycle at all.
00:04:37
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Right. We thought today would go back to the basics and we hope you're with us on this. Um, And maybe one important note is that Tanya and I, when we were talking about this, hormones are a massive topic.
00:04:51
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And you know we don't just have sex hormones, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. We also have hormones like insulin, thyroid, cortisol, and these are all so important during our cycle, also during perimenopause for our life.
00:05:05
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But Those are other topics for other podcasts. So today, really, we're going to focus on estrogen and progesterone and our and we're going to talk about the menstrual cycle and we're going to get into what happens to those two hormones during menopause or perimenopause.
00:05:22
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And if you're thinking, oh my gosh, I hope you get into testosterone, we're not going to today. We know how big this is. In fact, testosterone and high androgens is one of the top reasons for infertility.
00:05:35
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So we're going to talk about that. It's going to be another podcast. And actually just thinking about that, if you have questions about testosterone, high androgens, any of the things, now's the time to write us, to send us messages because we haven't built that podcast yet.
00:05:50
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So send us your questions because we want to know what you want to know. um So there's my tangent. So today, that's our intention to really go back to basics, to talk about our cycle, to talk about how it changes in perimenopause.
00:06:04
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Let's dive in. Love it. And just a little note before we literally go into the four phases of our menstrual cycle. If I knew then what I knew now, it would have changed vastly the way in which I protected myself in terms of birth control.
00:06:25
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It would have changed a lot of things in my earlier years, my teens, my twenties, and even the start of my thirties. So ladies, This is also an episode, if you are experts and you're like, girl, we know everything about the phases that you're going to talk about. That's amazing.
00:06:42
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Maybe this is an episode that will help you to share with your daughters, you know, that are, but you know, coming into getting their cycles or on their cycles. It's just such a foundational back to basics episode. As Kim said, I wish I would have known then, but we know it now. So we're going to share it. So um let's get into this sex ed class.
00:07:06
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And I think we should talk about the um four phases of our menstrual cycle to begin. Perfect. Okay, so yes, we have four phases to our menstrual cycle. The first phase is when we bleed and shed our uterine lining.
00:07:20
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And so this phase is from day one to whenever your period ends. And usually that could be from three to seven days, right? um And so during this phase, our luteinizing hormone, which is a hormone from our pituitary gland that triggers ovulation,
00:07:39
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Also, our progesterone and our estrogen levels drop off to their lowest point. And so that what this does, it signals our uterus lining to shed. And so contrary to sometimes popular belief, because I actually didn't know this, um our hormones are quite flat and stable during this time.
00:08:00
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The real swings we're going to get into happen before and after. A thousand percent. And I'd like to note. about this amazing description. This phase is called the menstrual phase. Kim, you forgot the title of the phase and that's okay because you explained it so well. So yes, this is the menstrual phase, which you probably gathered from the bleeding part.
00:08:21
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Yeah. Thank you, Tanya. You're welcome. That's why we're here. We feed off one another. Phase two. Yeah. Let's go into phase two. Kim, you explained the phases so well, and I feel like I'm going to sum them up if need be. So go phase two. Okay.
00:08:38
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Okay, so the second phase is our follicular phase, which begins right after your period and lasts until ovulation, which is usually around day 14.
00:08:50
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So during our follicular phase, the follicle stimulating hormone FSH tells the follicles in our ovaries to grow and each follicle holds an egg.
00:09:01
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Typically one will fully mature and then be released at ovulation. So as these follicles develop, they're producing estrogen, which is steadily rising and reaches its peak a few ah days before ovulation.
00:09:16
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And so what ah estrogen is doing for us right now is helping to regulate our cycle, also thickening the uterine lining and preparing for a potential pregnancy. Tanya and I also love to talk about how we feel during this phase.
00:09:30
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And many women will notice that they feel more energetic. They feel more confident. They might even experience a boost in libido during this phase. You know, our body is essentially gearing up for baby making, whether it's your intention or not.
Personal Stories During Menstrual Phases
00:09:47
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A million percent. And I want to say too, I don't think we prefaced it, but it goes without saying, this is a typical, these are what typical phases look like. So when we say day 14 and day one to seven, this is a typical cycle. Obviously all of our cycles will differ in duration.
00:10:02
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And I just wanted to comment on this phase, the follicular phase. It was, and I say was, I'll get into that a little bit later, my favorite phase because i was someone that was on um an aggressive form of birth control for so long and i didn't have the phases for years. I want to say, oh oh my God, over a decade.
00:10:28
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And when I came off of that and I started to feel like Kim said, we love to talk about how energetically you may feel during a phase. And I started to actually experience the follicular phase.
00:10:41
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I have no words for it. Like as a woman, I never felt so alive, exactly so confident, so vibrant. So love that phase. And that is definitely, again, we attribute that to, as Kim mentioned in the menstrual phase, hormones are actually pretty even keeled. This is like where things start, that estrogen starts to rise. And that's like that vibrant, feminine, juicy hormone for us.
00:11:06
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Such a good phase. Well said, Tanya. Absolutely. um So phase three, we are now in phase three, which is ovulation. So this is when our luteinizing hormone, which we talked about, peaks.
00:11:21
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So it stimulates the follicle to burst and release an egg. And this egg usually hangs around for about 24 hours to wait for sperm, or maybe the sperm has already been there waiting.
00:11:32
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So if you're tracking to try and get pregnant, this is what you want to look at. You basically have this two to four day window in which you can get pregnant if that's what you're trying to do.
00:11:44
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And so at this point in our cycle, you still have high estrogen. It peaks a couple of days before ovulation, but your estrogen is still high. So you're feeling still confident, likely. you We're not talking perimenopause, ladies. We'll get into this later.
00:12:00
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yeah That changes. But, well, it doesn't change for everyone, but it did for me. Anyways, so you're still feeling confident. You're feeling sexy.
00:12:12
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um And this is ovulation. And I think this is so important to talk about as well. um We'll talk more detail about tracking after. But as you mentioned, Kim, this is what you want to track when you are trying to get pregnant.
00:12:25
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And ladies, this is what you want to track when you're trying not to get pregnant, because this is when you're the most fertile. So always keeping that in mind as well. um And I love...
00:12:37
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saying the ovulation phase, you know, so many people we hear, I'm ovulating, we see it in TV shows, movies, you know, go home, make a baby. But again, getting back to this basics, I never knew, again, before nutrition school, what that ovulation meant, what was going on with my hormones. So this is that back to basics. Now, instead of just saying I'm ovulating, you know exactly what is happening in your body, what's causing you to ovulate and where your hormones are at, which I think is, which we think is so important, which is why we're here essentially.
00:13:07
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So next phase, Kim. And also if you're tracking, like if you're using an Oura ring or if you're tracking your temperature, this is where your temperature raises. Yes.
00:13:18
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Good point. Absolutely. And it doesn't decrease until until your bleed. Okay. Luteal phase. So this is following ovulation, typically maybe a day 14 to day 28, or whenever you start your bleed.
00:13:35
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This phage estrogen is declining. And your progesterone is now increasing. And this is usually the longest phase of your cycle.
00:13:46
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And so during this phase, that ruptured follicle that released the egg, it transforms into the corpus luteum, which I told you this was like a science class, guys. Like this is science class. Get your pencils out.
00:14:03
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It's true. Love it. and So, but this is how our body produces progesterone. That's why that, that is important because this is where we get our, our progesterone.
00:14:14
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This is when our body produces progesterone through that process. And so our progesterone increases quite quickly. And the goal here, what our progesterone is doing is it's helping us to thicken. We'll essentially manage that uterine wall so that the fertilized egg can then implant. Right.
00:14:32
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This process is also signaling your pituitary gland to stop producing FSH and LH. Doesn't want to you know, release another egg. um So progesterone will drop and then menstruation should begin.
00:14:46
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And so during this phase, you might find that your energy declines. You know, that's the decline of estrogen, that increase of progesterone. We can feel many different symptoms during this phase.
00:14:57
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And we can talk about it. I think Tanya and I, are towards the end, when we talk about perimenopause, we'll talk about how hormone imbalances can happen, you know, even before perimenopause, which is what I dealt with. And we'll talk about our stories then. But this is the basics, guys.
00:15:12
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This is... This is sort of where we wanted to start ah about, and we hope that helped. um I also encourage each of you to track your cycles if you're still cycling, because this information is so important, even you know before you're getting those perimenopause symptoms, because it's important.
00:15:36
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I feel like um our cycle is like another, oh my gosh, I'm losing my language, vital sign. Yes, like exactly. like back You know, we look at heart rate, we look at like our menstrual cycle.
00:15:50
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It's based, it gives us so much information about our health. So it's so, so important guys to know what's going on with your cycle. For sure. And, uh,
00:16:03
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Knowing the cycle as intimately as we know it now, I can say for the last 17 years before, definitely not. um What a difference it would have been if I knew this cycle, i say it as intimately as I do, but even just this baseline information that we've given in terms of understanding why I should have been tracking things and understanding changes in my body that now I can identify were happening even a decade ago that I couldn't have identified then.
00:16:32
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And I even, I thought like menstruation was like the last phase. You know what I mean? Like you go through everything and you bleed. But now I always think about it as kind of, I talked to my clients about it as like an orchestra kind of thing. So you start off, you know, you sit down and you take your seats and everything's calm and even keel.
00:16:50
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And people are like, I'm bleeding, Tanya. I'm in the menstruation phase. This is not common, even Keo. But your hormones basically, like you said, Kim, are baseline. They're kind of quiet during that menstruation phase. And then as things start, you know, we have the hormones that start to increase and they help signal. And I feel like bursting, you know, different hormones.
00:17:10
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And you get to that crescendo, that high point that, you know, just before ovulation. And then things start to calm towards the end again and things start to decline. And I always... note it too, when we're at that beginning stage of that orchestra performance, you're on a high, that energy's there, you know, that that feeling that, you know, that we're talking about in that, um, uh, the follicular phase, like it's there.
00:17:37
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And then as you kind of start to crescendo and go down and we get into the luteal phase, you know, that's when changes can happen with our symptoms as well, as Kim mentioned. And yes, we are going to get into also, if you're like, okay, well, what symptoms are happening typically when my progesterone is declining or whatever?
00:17:54
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We're going to get into that in detail coming up very soon. So
Introduction to Perimenopause
00:17:58
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basic understanding, now we know the typical cycle. Well, what in the actual F happens to this cycle during perimenopause?
00:18:11
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That's the big question. And that's what's going to arm us with the information and the empowerment that we need to not only understand what we're tracking in our bodies, but what we need to advocate what we need from our healthcare practitioners during this time as well. And can I just say too, Tanya, just, I loved your, of course you have the best analogies as always. Thank you.
00:18:34
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But what I also love is that with the knowledge like you said, you can also give yourself grace. Like it doesn't mean an excuse like, oh, I'm in my last phase of my cycle. I'm not going to work out.
00:18:46
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But you can also listen to your body and give your body what it needs during those times of your cycle. So if you guys are into it, I think Tanya, we should write down, maybe we can talk more about how to eat during your cycle because our body needs different types of fuel at different types of our cycles to support progesterone, to support estrogen.
00:19:05
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And then also like, you know, basically cycle syncing. You guys may have heard that term before, right? And, but it it allows us to also understand what's happening and give ourselves that grace.
00:19:18
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So. You said it perfectly. Understanding what is happening. Absolutely. um So I think maybe before we talk. Yeah. Let's switch to Perry.
00:19:29
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No, that's it. And before saying, okay, this is, this is what happens to your body, this wild ride. Okay. Let's define perimenopause as well, because a lot of times talking to friends, family, clients, their minds blow. And when I tell them this fact that, so we know perimenopause is this magical time leading up to menopause, menopause being one calendar year, 365 days without bleeding, having that menstruation phase.
00:20:03
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But did you know, guys, that when people are like, I'm in menopause, that menopause, if you are, it's one day that you're telling me this, menopause lasts one day. And then after that, ladies, you are post-menopausal.
00:20:18
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So Perry, these wonderful years leading up to it, menopause, one day, happy anniversary, 365, post-menopause thereafter, right?
00:20:28
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Absolutely. Absolutely, Tanya. that's Thank you for saying that. And- Can I also just say, because we were just talking about the cycle of like, what kind of sick joke it is that so many of us perimenopausal women have teens going through puberty. Just that's you out there.
00:20:47
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God bless. Girl, that is a lot of my friends. Like, and that's every day. I'm like, God your households. Yeah. like god bless your household Yeah. Yeah. Because you're right. Perimenopause is similar to puberty, but it's actually the opposite.
00:21:04
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Hormones are fluctuating as we prepare to start our menstrual cycles in puberty. And now in perimenopause, our hormones are f fluctuating as we wind down.
00:21:17
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I know. Thanks for saying it for me. I don't like to say it as we wind her down, preparing to stop the menstrual cycle. Right. Okay. Yes, exactly. And You know, what we're going to get into sort of what what, just like what we did with our cycle, when we talked about the cycle, we're going to talk about what typically happens during perimenopause. But as we said at the beginning,
00:21:42
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you know, it's not like this for every single one of us out there, right? And
Hormonal Changes and Effects During Perimenopause
00:21:47
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the thing about perimenopause too, is that as Tanya mentioned, things are winding down, things are fluctuating, hormones are fluctuating month to month.
00:21:56
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So unfortunate it's like, oh my goodness, but like what's happening this month may be different than what's happening next month because our hormones are fluctuating as they wind down. You might have higher estrogen this month, lower estrogen next month, but we're going to just sort of talk about what basically happens during perimenopause as things are winding down towards menopause.
00:22:17
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Exactly. This is the typical, what is going on? So I like to think of it. You like my analogies this much. Let's try this one on. Domino's, the hormone edition. Okay.
00:22:29
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That can be the title of your book, Tanya. Okay. Oh, let me get on that. I have a lot of material for that right now. Let me tell you, because hormones are all related. They are chemical messengers. So the long and short of it is when you tip one hormone over, you know what's going to happen? Like the game of dominoes, they're all connected.
00:22:53
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So first and foremost, what we start to see during the season of perimenopause um is progesterone declines first.
00:23:04
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And some signs of this um can be missed ovulation. And if you are tracking your cycle, you will know when you're ovulating. You know, I definitely knew when I was ah ovulating and I definitely know when I stopped ovulating for sure.
00:23:19
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Right. um Because it is made in the ovaries and the function, the function of progesterone in the ovaries, they keep lowering as we age. Right. um And it becomes harder and harder to ovulate.
00:23:31
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Remember, if you guys listened to last week's episode, we spent a portion of it cheering on Kim's ovaries for the day. but was ovulating. And it was hard for you. know what I mean?
00:23:42
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I wasn't feeling energetic during that phase. No, it didn't. You might notice, and also we talked about our healing, during ovulation, our immune system is a little bit lower. It takes a lot of energy, especially as we're in a perimenopause to ovulate.
00:23:58
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Our FSH and our LH, those hormones that we talked about earlier are increasing. You'll see that if you take a test, those are those likely have increased because it's trying harder and harder to help release that egg, to stimulate those follicles in order to release an egg.
00:24:16
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Um, so yeah, that's the domino and that's the domino, that's the domino because that tips over and this increase, this trying so hard, you know, ah fs h and LH and the decline in progesterone causes cortisol to run higher.
00:24:32
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And again, we'll get into symptoms later, but one main symptom is you feel more anxious. You can have more of anxiety for reasons that you don't even really understand. Absolutely. If you don't ovulate one month and don't release that egg, at the corpus luteum, that progesterone, you're not going to produce that progesterone, right? So your progesterone will be lower that month.
00:24:56
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Therefore, one month you may feel more anxious. Another big, big one, and we'll get into this later as well, Tanya, but progesterone also supports sleep. So if you're, you know, before menstruation, when we're when we're building that progesterone in that luteal phase,
00:25:12
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um you might notice that you're getting a little insomnia or you're you're finding it harder to sleep. And that could be lowered progesterone. And this is so important to note, like you said, Kim, that when we're in perimenopause, like, yes, progesterone declines first and it can be spotty. You can ovulate one month and not the other month. So your symptoms might not be consistent.
00:25:35
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And going back to the tracking, this is still when it becomes really important to track because Because one month you might be like, oh my God, I'm going through perimenopause. I'm not sleeping. I have anxiety. Then one month later, you're like, oh, it must have been something else. I'm good.
00:25:49
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But it's not, it's not, it's maybe you ovulated the next month. So very important to note that as well. um When it's happening in your cycle, a hundred percent. So you can share with your doctor, you can share with your practitioner, your symptoms.
00:26:03
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A thousand percent. So basically what we're talking about, progesterone declines first, as we said, to sum it up, our ovaries, they're aging like us, right? That's that's just the hard facts of it.
00:26:16
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So they're having a tougher time releasing eggs. So we are having less progesterone because they're making less, they're older, they're aging, higher FSH, LH causes higher cortisol.
00:26:28
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So that's like kind of one of the big pillar dominoes that starts it all off. A hundred percent. And then what starts swinging is your estrogen. And then it could be, and by swinging, I mean, some months could be high, some months can be low, and then you start seeing it trend lower and lower and lower. And that's why, again, like Tanya said, every month can feel different.
00:26:53
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And then the estrogen domino, um keeping with that same analogy, is now going to start to hit thyroid And insulin, so two other important hormones that again, we'll focus on in later podcasts, um and also brain receptors, um which normally works smoothly, are definitely getting messed up in this translation. Hello, brain fog.
00:27:16
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Just the moment that I had right now, trying to find my words. That's your estrogen, Tanya. That is my estrogen. And let me tell you, I'll talk about it a little later on. She below. So.
00:27:29
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Yes. And so as estrogen starts declining, you know, as Tanya mentioned, all of those other symptoms start occurring, which I think, you know, we're getting close to time, Tanya, right?
00:27:43
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We want to keep these podcasts to 30 minutes. And like Tanya and I said, from the absolute very beginning, we, this is a big topic.
Conclusion and Next Steps
00:27:52
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So maybe Tanya, we make this a two-parter.
00:27:55
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Yeah, we have a lot more to cover. I agree. So I think basically to sum up, We know so far that progesterone is number one, estrogen lowers number two, remembering that it's hitting the thyroid hormone, which also helps us, um, which also will have us feeling weaker sometimes sluggish, more tired, and then hitting that insulin hormone.
00:28:19
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This is when we get into becoming, um, not metabolizing our sugars as we used to. We could have insulin spikes after meals. So it's getting into a whole bunch of stuff that I think exactly we can continue on in our next part.
00:28:35
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So hard too part two, which we will back to back him, don't you think we should have part two come out next week? Absolutely. Absolutely. So you're not waiting long, ladies. Reach out with any questions.
00:28:47
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I think one of the things about this, we what we really like, back to the intention of this episode was we want you to understand your cycle. We want you to track your cycle. We want you to know what symptoms are occurring during your cycle. So maybe that can be your takeaway from today is find a great app.
00:29:06
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Or maybe if you're like a pen and paper person, maybe you can, you know, Find a way to track the cycle and start start today. For sure. And for those that maybe don't have an app that they enjoy, um i can speak on the Cycle app.
00:29:22
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They have both a free version and a paid version. And within the version, you can also state like, are you more on the perimenopause? um side of things and it kind of adapts for that that's the app that i've been using and it has alerts that reminds you to log every day anywhere from mood to appetite to even everything's related your bowel movements your libido so cycle is a really good app if you're looking for something simple and to get you started you can start with the free version oh good one tanya we'll put that in the show notes for sure yeah absolutely so um
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I hope you guys enjoyed our little back to basics elementary school. And again, I think as Kim mentioned at the start, please, this is the best place and time to ask your questions, whether you reply to the podcast in our show notes, we have an email address, you can DM DM us on social media, but this podcast is lovingly created for you to help you. So anything that's on your mind, please ask us and we will do our best to go through it and give you the empowerment.
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Exactly. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. And see next week for part two. All right. See you later, guys. Don't see what's going on in perimenopause. Okay. Bye.
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