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Ep 10: Healing Isn’t Linear: Why the Hard Work is Worth It
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We’ve all been there—searching for the quick fix, the magic supplement, or the shortcut that will finally make us feel better. But here’s the truth: healing takes work. It’s not a straight line, it’s not instant, and it’s definitely not about perfection. In this episode, we’re having an honest conversation about what real healing looks like, why setbacks don’t mean failure, and how the work you put in pays off in life-changing ways.
We share our own journeys—the frustrations, the lessons, and the breakthroughs—and talk about why healing is hard but so, so worth it.
What We Dive Into:
- Why healing requires major lifestyle shifts, not just supplements or quick fixes
- The role medications can play in healing—and why they’re just one step, not the solution
- What it means when we say “healing isn’t linear” (hello ups, downs, and slumps)
- Why flare-ups and health crises happen during healing (stress, overwhelm, viruses, even emotional/energetic shifts)
- How to trust the process—even when it feels messy or hard
- Why setbacks don’t mean starting over (think: train tracks, not a reset button)
Where to find us:
IG @whatsmyageagain.podcast or email us at: wmaapod@gmail.com
Where to find Tanya:
IG @tlcholistic / FB @tlcholistic
Book with Tanya: https://tlcholistic.janeapp.com/locations/tlc-holistic
Join the TLC Community: https://www.patreon.com/tlcholistic
Where to find Kim:
IG @kimdesmarais.nutrition /FB @KimDesmarais
Book with Kim: Complimentary Connect Call
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Transcript
Introduction & Milestone Celebration
00:00:00
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Welcome to What's My Age Again, the realest podcast for women who are done chasing trends and ready to feel empowered. Hi, I'm Kim. And I'm Tanya, holistic nutritionists and childhood best friends who've been there, done that, and bought the collagen.
00:00:16
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more than once. Each week we provide actionable steps that you can start today to help you thrive through every decade to come. We're cutting through the wellness noise to bring you honest conversations about aging, hormones, health, beauty, mindset, and everything in between.
00:00:33
Speaker
You see, we're also on a mission to age gracefully one WTF moment at a time. Backed by research and real life, we're here to share what actually works, what's a waste of time, and how to truly thrive through the messy, magical midlife transition.
00:00:49
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We're so happy you're here. Let's dive in. Hey, Kim. How are you? What's up? Hi, Tanya. Hi, everyone. Welcome back to What's My Age again. Thank you so much for coming back and listening again.
00:01:03
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Tanya and I are so excited because it is our 10th episode. Can you believe it? Episode number 10. And this is really a time where we can say time does fly when you're having fun. So this has been so amazing so far. We're just getting started. And thank you for being here with us on episode 10.
00:01:24
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Yeah. And thank you for all of you who have rated the podcast and sent us messages or posted a comment or forwarded it to a friend. We cannot tell you how much we appreciate it and we notice every single one of you.
00:01:39
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So thank you so much.
Personal Healing Journeys
00:01:41
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Absolutely. I second that. And it's funny, like 10 feels like a landmark because It is. And it's really interesting how we kind of came across today's topic. You would think that maybe you would plan something like, oh, we definitely want this for our 10th or whatever, but certain circumstances just allowed this topic to slide in at this time. And I think that it is something that needs to be talked about and it is so, so important.
00:02:11
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Absolutely. It kind of fits perfectly. um So we're going to talk today about healing and about the healing journey. um Because both Tanya and I have had our own healing journeys for one. And on the day to day, we both talk to our clients and walk them through their own healing journeys.
00:02:32
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And what we mean by healing here is whether we've been diagnosed with an
00:02:39
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with a diagnosis or an illness or whether or not we're dealing with pesky symptoms like insomnia, migraines. what this is People are coming to us to talk about their own healing journey.
00:02:55
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Yeah, exactly. Healing is such a broad statement, ah such a broad word, sorry. And it encompasses all of those things. And I
The Complex Nature of Healing
00:03:04
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feel like it's so universal because just today, and I mean, it's only, it's before noon.
00:03:10
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um I've talked to a friend about healing and what that means. And I've just talked to a client about her healing journey and healing is, it's such a difficult thing.
00:03:23
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So I think we can talk about hormones. We can talk about all of the things that we've talked about in the last nine episodes, plus the things that are going to come, but we can't ignore the actual journey um and dig into that with all the things that come with that, the loneliness, the fear, the triumphs, the worries, because it's so, so important to discuss the actual journey and not just the tools.
00:03:48
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Absolutely. Because at the end of the day, you know, we want quick fixes in this life, right? And And unfortunately, bearer of bad news here, and both Tang and I have said before, we tell the truth.
00:04:04
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Unfortunately, sometimes it isn't exactly what everybody wants to hear, but healing is not a quick fix. And, you you know, one thing that I realized when I started, like, you know, we'll get into it a little later, but in my 30s is when my health really plummeted.
00:04:20
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And so it took me 30 years to get to that point. I can't expect it to change overnight. Exactly. the But there's so many things that can come quickly. It's just, you know, we have to be patient and do all the things that are necessary for healing.
00:04:39
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Absolutely. And that's what I was talking to this morning with my friend about. I said those exact words and they're so powerful. When we stop and think about how long it's taken us to get wherever we are today in our own healing journey, whatever symptoms and things that we are looking to heal, that didn't happen overnight.
00:04:59
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And unfortunately, most healing doesn't happen overnight. And like you said, Kim, I think the best thing to to describe this is what we say all the time is, Healing is not
Medication and Holistic Approaches
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linear.
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If we took a piece of string, it wouldn't be this beautiful uphill, you know, decline from like the lowest of lows to the highest of highs. That string has a bunch of dips and bends and peaks and valleys, and it requires effort.
00:05:30
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It requires requires dedication. It requires very often simple changes when we're starting from the beginning. Like for me, how about you stop drinking the Slim Fast in skim milk, Tanya? That was a simple change.
00:05:44
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But those simple changes then as we heal often need to change into more drastic ones and consistent ones. And this is where healing becomes difficult, takes time.
00:05:56
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And let's be honest, we start to question, is this even working? Is this even worth it? Why am I not feeling better? What the heck is going on?
00:06:08
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A hundred percent. Well, there is no shortcuts, right? There are no shortcuts and it requires a holistic approach, right? I think one thing, you know, that we are accustomed to in sort of Western culture is that, you know, you take a pill and your symptom goes away.
00:06:24
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right? You want a quick fix. I have a migraine. I'm going to take, I'm going to take, um, you know, a Tylenol or an Advil and try and get rid of it where, you know, where both Tanya and I come from is that that migraine is actually a symptom of something. And so yes, we can mask our symptoms for a long time, but that's not true healing, right? True healing is figuring out why we are getting those migraines in the first time,
00:06:50
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first place, and then digging deeper to try and fix that underlying issue. And so one, Kim, good one. and like with that too, I know sometimes i can be, you know, bias in,
00:07:05
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how I believe, you know, medications and medical system, but medications may play a role in certain situations. And I get that open-mindedness more and more from you and looking at all of the pictures and knowing there's a lot of different factors, but you always bring it back to say, they're just a tiny step in a larger journey.
00:07:27
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They're never really the solution. The root cause is the solution and medication is not something that, you know, usually deals with root cause. It's symptomatic.
00:07:38
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Absolutely. And you know what here, you know, I'm a perfect example of that. I'm, I, I'm on a medication. I'm on Synthroid for my thyroid. For those of you who listen to our podcasts, you know that I have Hashimoto's and that's been part of my healing journey.
00:07:52
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The Synthroid is something I may need to be on for the rest of my life. And that's okay. it's It's supporting me. But all the other things about diet and lifestyle have drastically reduced my autoimmunity as well as made me feel so much better. So it's this combination approach. If you're getting migraines, we're not telling you not to take the Advil when you're going through it.
00:08:15
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Believe me, I used to get migraines and they can like shut you down for a day or two. so yes, Take the Advil, take the Tylenol, but then do the work to figure out why you're getting them in the first place.
00:08:28
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Kim, this is brilliant. I love this. And thanks for using yourself as an example. So here's a perfect way to take that and play devil's advocate. Should you just be taking the the prescription medication that you're on and not doing all of the other stuff?
00:08:43
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your healing wouldn't be, you wouldn't be healed. You would be managing the thyroid. So you are, you know what I mean? that I love it. This is part of the piece, but everything else you're doing, that is the healing part mixed in with that management for now, for forever, whatever the case may be, as you said, such a strong example.
00:09:05
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Absolutely. And so i guess I guess the point is that we never want anyone to feel bad about taking a medication. It's a hundred percent part of your healing. It's part, you know, it's part of the process, but what we want to make sure is that we're also doing that really difficult work, which let's face it, it is work of doing the diet and lifestyle changes necessary to support your healing as well.
Understanding Healing Processes
00:09:33
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And I think this is a good... Yes, sorry, go ahead. No, I was going to say, i think that's a really good time then to dig a little bit deeper into that healing, that hard work that you just talked about, and really like what non-linear healing means, going back to that string, progress with ups and downs, slumps and breakthroughs.
00:09:54
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But here's something that is so important, because I know you've experienced it, Kim. I just experienced it this Christmas with being so sick. What happens when we get into a health crisis, which we should define during our healing journeys?
00:10:14
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What happens when the little, that little bump in the string is low and you're in that crisis. What happens then with those feelings, with that fear, with things not working? We need to talk about that because that's often a spot where we throw in the towel.
00:10:29
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Totally. Well, Tanya, I think before we I think we go back to talk, talk a little bit more about that, the linear healing, for example, because some people might be going like, what exactly are you guys talking about?
00:10:40
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So what Tanya and I mean by healing, healing isn't linear is going back to that quick fix. Nothing's a quick fix, right? So when you start your healing journey, you might be changing some dietary and lifestyle changes in your life, right? All of us say you're dealing with For example, migraines.
00:11:00
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Say you get migraines once a month. So you're really digging deep and you're your doing the things that it changing your diet and lifestyle. So you might, all of a sudden, that first month, you might not get a migraine and you're going, oh my goodness, this is amazing.
00:11:17
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i have I didn't get a migraine. But then the next month, you might get a migraine again. And then you might go two months without getting a migraine. And then you might get one again.
00:11:28
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And then you might go three months without it and then not get it. So what we're trying to explain is that healing doesn't go from zero to a hundred. You kind of get a little better.
00:11:39
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Your symptoms go away for a little bit. Then you might become symptomatic again, just for a few days. And then it might go away again. And then you might get those symptoms back. You're never going to go back though to 0.0 where you were getting those migraines all the time.
00:11:53
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You're going to keep getting better and better until hopefully those symptoms go away. So that's what Tanya means by it's not linear. kind of goes up and down, but heading in an upward state. You can't see me, but hopefully that makes sense.
00:12:06
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I want to use the word, the word, yes. Heading in a ready for this big one, heading in an upward trajectory. That is how we want to say it. Yes, Kim. And it makes perfect sense. And that's exactly what feeds into when I, that's perfect. When we ask what nonlinear means, it's not a line. It's not a straight line. So I'd like to add to that perfect analogy, Kim, with the migraines.
00:12:29
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Here's another example, and this can kind of be grouped as a healing crisis as well. So you go a month without the migraine, yay, and then you get a migraine. And then you go two months without a migraine, and then you get a migraine. And in that time when you get a migraine again, oh my God, you might get other symptoms you haven't had before.
00:12:48
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And that's a little bit scary, and that can be a little bit jarring and make us wonder, are we healing? So an example of this would be, let's say you're changing your diet, okay? You're changing your diet and your bowel movements might change all of a sudden, and they never did before. And that can be a little bit of a healing crisis it can be symptoms that are brought out in the body. They can be physical, emotional, or energetic that you didn't have before.
00:13:18
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Part of that linear healing, but it leaves you going, I'm worse than I was before in this little blip. Like, is this working? This isn't working. Why am I doing this? It's not, it's making me unwell, right? And I think that's where I kind of want to stop with that, these ups and downs and what happens in a healing crisis in these nonlinear healing situations.
00:13:38
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A hundred percent, Tanya. And I think one of the things I like to do another analogy here is called peeling the onion. And you're going layer by layer by layer to get through to that healing journey. So what Tanya is talking about is, you know, sometimes when we start our healing journey, we do feel a little bit you know, we couldn't become more symptomatic in other ways. And that could be one reason could be that all of a sudden we are detoxing, you know, we've got built up toxins in our liver.
00:14:07
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We're starting to bring those out and we're starting to feel examples of that. There could be many different reasons for it. And working ah with a practitioner is so important in your healing journey because they're going to be able to walk you through all of these things.
00:14:22
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But absolutely. The goal is to peel that onion layer by layer by layer so that eventually you've got to that root cause.
Personal Experiences and Mindset
00:14:34
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I love it. And understanding, again, going back to the why of this podcast, understanding that you're not going back to point zero and that this is normal.
00:14:46
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So another word for healing crisis, I like to say, is like a healing reaction. So exactly like you said, Kim, for an example, if we start to really support our liver inadvertently because we're looking to support something else. And we know a lot goes down to detox, different podcast. I realized that, um, we start to release toxins that might've been stored deep in whatever tissue we're working in could be stored deep in the gut tissues and the malt tissues of the guts or, you know, and we start getting a healing process.
00:15:18
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reaction also. So it can be called a crisis. It can be called a reaction. And those are the symptoms that we're not used to. And that can be scary and that can stop us in our tracks. But, you know, we want to reiterate that these things within reason are normal.
00:15:34
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Again, Kim, why it's important to work with a practitioner so we can talk about all these things that are happening and make sure, you know, we're supporting our body in that moment in time, because,
00:15:45
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Health crises happen as we heal. Detoxification is just one thing, but we can also bring on different health crises as we're healing with things like stress.
00:15:56
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right Or a virus. You get a virus. and Which is what happened. And yeah, I want to stop at the virus for a second, Kim, because Kim was so instrumental. um When I did have a super bad virus in December,
00:16:11
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Guys, like I have no words for it. Anyways, I went through a whole gamut of symptoms for six weeks from hair loss. And the thing that scared me the most, and I remembered exactly where I was texting you, is all of a sudden my hives came back.
00:16:26
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So my healing journey, kind of like Kim, my body just went for a nosedive in its Yeah. um it was just done.
00:16:37
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It was just at capacity. So I think that I very much was on the brink of an autoimmune. My body was just completely toxic. So one thing i dealt with with for over literally a decade was chronic dermatitis. So 90% of the time, 90% of my body was covered in hives.
00:16:54
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Can you believe it? That was my normal. That was like, well, that's just normal. And the amount of medications I was thrown on anyways, I digress. So when I got...
00:17:05
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This high, these hives during this virus, which was a healing crisis. Yes, I still have healing crisis. I'm still healing. After 14 years, I freaked out and I messaged Kim and I was like, oh my God, I'm going to have hives again for another decade.
00:17:25
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And you were like, no, you're not. Remember what you tell your clients, Tanya. but Yeah. and she And it's just, and that yes and like, it was so helpful for me. So I guess what I'm trying to say with this example too, is like,
00:17:39
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We are you. We understand because we have gone through so much healing and we still are. We're just able to see it kind of in a different light with a different cap on.
00:17:51
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But when it's happening to us, we understand those feelings are real. So stress, overwhelm, virus, clearly, even energetic and emotional shifts as we heal can cause, you know what I mean?
00:18:04
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These little slumps and these symptoms. But like you said, Kim, We're not going back to where we got on the train. I'm not going back to station one. I'm off. I'm on the tracks, but I'm on the tracks really far down and I'm not going to go back. I'm not going to go backwards.
00:18:20
Speaker
Well, Tanya, when you do the work, right. And when I do the work, yes, here's where the positive side comes in. When you start doing the work to heal, Meaning when you know, and those of you out there are thinking like you probably are thinking of a couple of things that you can do, whether it be diet and lifestyle changes that you, you know, diet changes that you've been meaning to, make, or, you know, lifestyle changes, like getting better sleeps managing and supporting your, your nervous system.
00:18:52
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or, you know, your movement routine, all of those things that maybe you've been thinking through when you do and make those changes. And, you know, for example, for me, I started with, um, so for Hashimoto specifically, glo going gluten-free is like number one, you have to,
00:19:12
Speaker
um if you want to manage your autoimmunity, if you want to bring your antibodies down. And so right away, I made some diet and lifestyle changes and my energy changed for the better.
00:19:25
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And so what happens there is, yes, it was difficult for me at the beginning to go gluten free. It was really difficult. Me who would have like a baguette every day.
00:19:36
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Okay. Like I remember my husband draft, like I remember coming out of a naturopath's office and we were about to go away for the weekend. And I was like, I'm going gluten-free. And he was like, it sounds so non-supportive, but he literally laughed and was like, you?
00:19:52
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Yeah, right. No, it doesn't sound non-supportive. It sounds like realistic. You know what I mean? Because yeah, it's a drastic change for sure that you made. It is a drastic change. and But I did. From that day, i did because...
00:20:08
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I didn't want to deal with the symptoms. I I was feeling terrible. And so for me, i was reaching for straws at that point being like, I will do anything. You tell me what to do, what changes to make, to make me feel better. And I will do them.
00:20:22
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That's kind of the point I was at in my health crisis. And so a few weeks in, I did started feeling my energy, um, coming back.
00:20:34
Speaker
I wasn't fall. I couldn't before I was dragging myself out bed. And
Aging and Ongoing Healing
00:20:40
Speaker
as I started to feel those changes, the motivation to continue got better and better, right? Like yeah then i started adding more things and then I started feeling even better. And then we talked about migraines at the beginning, Tanya.
00:20:54
Speaker
One side effect from me making those changes, focusing on my thyroid was that my migraines, my monthly migraines started going away. And I noticed that. And so I noticed all these symptoms, which I didn't realize were all part of the same onion. Yeah.
00:21:10
Speaker
To go back to that analogy. Different layers, same onion. It's a big one. It's a big one. Started going away. And that was motivating to continue. Yeah.
00:21:21
Speaker
And then what happens is if you get into that health crisis, like for example, you get a bad virus, all of a sudden energy drops again, you start getting worried, but you're, but I've done so much work that it is a, it sort of is like a small setback.
00:21:38
Speaker
It's not going to be a major setback. Like it would have been at the beginning of the health journey, if that makes sense. It makes complete sense. And also what you made me think I wanted to add to when we talk about um healing crisis, healing symptoms, little bumps in our road and whatever.
00:21:55
Speaker
Remembering too that we started our healing journeys. So I'm just using us as an example. I'll use myself so I don't overstep. I started my healing journey as well at 30, okay?
00:22:06
Speaker
So to the point of this being... My body, she's a lot different from 30 to 44. And I'm not talking about actually the positives, more vital, and I feel like feel best in my life.
00:22:18
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I'm talking about just the changes. My body is going to change. So my healing journey, simply for the definition of being a human being who's aging, is not going to be linear as well.
00:22:31
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Because now I'm fitting in hormonal changes and shifts from perimenopause. That's not necessarily related to my original healing journey, but they're lulls and they're little bumps.
00:22:43
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And i you're that's why it's so important too, to be working with your team. You build a healthcare team that takes into account that the body is always static. It's always in movement.
00:22:55
Speaker
Does static mean still? No. If so, that's, the body is not always static. Okay, the body is not static. The body is in constant movement. Always changing.
00:23:06
Speaker
Yep. And that has to be taken into account as well, though. What worked last month, last year, is going to have to be continuously tweaked to keep us on that trajectory, that upward trajectory. But those might cause bumps in the rows as well. And those are frustrating, you know, also.
00:23:26
Speaker
But again, trusting this is the moment for me. Trusting in the hard and the scary moments. Trusting in your body, trusting in the work that you have done and that you're doing, that you are still healing even when it's scary And not giving up in those times. So Kim, you talked about, and I love that too. I always tell my clients, healing's like a domino effect.
00:23:54
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Someone's here to see me about a migraine. All of a sudden, months later, they're like, oh my God. And I never even realized this, this, this, this and this was terrible. And now it's great. So you had that domino effect, but...
00:24:08
Speaker
Can you comment on one of your bumps or slumps where you're like, is this working? Like, does something stick out in your mind on your healing journey? You just said things were going great. Your migraine started to go away, but certainly did you have any setbacks? Like, can you think of one that you experienced?
00:24:23
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For sure. Well, just like you, Tanya, the journey is never really over. And like you said, you know I'm also going through perimenopause, um hormones are changing, but one thing that i ah that I'm really happy about is that I did do the work so that I'm hoping yeah the foundation of health is there so that all all the changes that happen aren't as crazy as perhaps they would have been if my healing was where it was, right? If my health was where it was eight years ago.
00:24:58
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But yeah, of course, throughout the last eight years, it's been ups and downs for sure.
Community and Support Systems
00:25:02
Speaker
you know, i um and there's, yeah, like there's been, there's been months that a migraine has come back.
00:25:11
Speaker
um I'm doing a lot of work on my nervous system now because I know stress is a major factor when it comes to autoimmunity and immune health and but overall, pretty much every single health issue there is out there.
00:25:23
Speaker
Absolutely. And so there's always something to to sort of support. but um But yeah, I'm thankful for the people in my life that kind of helped, as you said, Tanya, your health team that can kind of, when you're in that downward slump or you're feeling like, oh, why am I doing all this work?
00:25:42
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I'm back to where I was. For nothing. It feels like sometimes you're like, why am I doing this for nothing? that is this, is this going to be my, now my hives are back is, is this going to be the way it is again? Or I'm getting, I got a migraine this month. Am I now back to that again?
00:25:57
Speaker
No, then being able to, that like the, the health team or the person to be able to kind of talk you through because mindset is so, so, so important. And like you said, like, you know, there's a piece you've, there's, there's,
00:26:12
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it It takes a bit of a team. You know, you've got your GP that you can go to. Perhaps you have a ah naturopath as well or a holistic nutritionist like Tanya or I or osteopath or a physiotherapist. You've got the people that you can rely on to support your health.
00:26:29
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For sure. And again, healing important. super complex and it's super overwhelming. And again, the basis of this podcast, one of the things was to cut the noise. So it's cutting the noise when you're trying to heal individually is difficult. And having that team of people you can trust is key. And similar to you, Kim, with your baguette story, freaking love myself a good baguette, not going to lie.
00:26:54
Speaker
um i I was the dairy queen and yes, even of the restaurant, but in general, just the dairy queen. What I didn't know, I didn't know. Why am I covered in hives 24-7? So I remember my small step moment to start, which was life-changing,
00:27:15
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This is no word of a lie.
Actionable Healing Steps
00:27:18
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um Outside at my job, which was in truck dispatch, six o'clock in the morning, starting in my day. I shouldn't even say that's not my start. I smoked on the way there.
00:27:27
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Starting my work day off at work with, you know, cigarettes, cigarette and coffee for breakfast and talking to somebody who changed my entire life, um who said, my daughter is a holistic nutritionist.
00:27:41
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And she looked at me and she said, I think it's the milk. And probably just like your husband had like a look of like, you're going to cut on milk. I looked at her and I was like, it's not the milk lady.
00:27:53
Speaker
Like the milk, milk is good for you. And I will never cut out milk. Guess what, Kim? Spoiler alert. It was the milk. That was a big part of it. So my fast ahha moment is when I cut the dairy, my hives went away almost overnight.
00:28:10
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Like I'm real. So I, that's another thing to say too, to keep in mind, sometimes we start with the biggest upward trajectory. We are like launched out of a cannon and we are like, I am on top of the world because things are so tangled within your body and so unbalanced that a small change catapults you.
00:28:32
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Absolutely. Well, I find with so many clients, like, especially people who are used to having highly processed foods every day, you were saying, you know, you were cut the cigarettes, cut the, you know, but give yourself a breakfast in the morning, cut the dairy, though, just making the changes to diet and cutting out the processed foods, cutting out the pop, cutting out the sugar, adding some movement, adding with some meditation,
00:29:02
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um working on sleep, just those four pillars alone are going to make you feel incredibly different, even in the first month, I would say. Absolutely.
00:29:17
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And then... You level off. We'll always level off. And this is what I think we're trying to say. That's where that linear healing comes in. So you're so right, Kim. Those changes are exponentially important. They are literally life-changing and they catapult us. They blow us out of the cannon, like I said.
00:29:38
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But then we all inevitably land on flat ground for a moment or even a little dip. And we're like, well, this, this is not working like this. And, and it is, we are here to tell you that it is. And that goes back to our healing is not linear.
00:29:53
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Here's the tough love Tanya coming again. I'm sorry. It always comes from honestly is a place of care and compassion. It's hard work. You either put the work in or you don't, but nothing changes if nothing changes and you truly, truly get out of it what you put into it.
00:30:14
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And I'm not saying suck it up and just do it. I'm just acknowledging it is hard.
Encouragement and Future Reflections
00:30:20
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But if you do the work and it is consistent, you will continue on that path of healing, nonlinear, but healing.
00:30:28
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Absolutely, Tanya. You said it perfectly. I think you summed up the episode. And I think, well, I guess one last thing to say is get yourself some support as well, whether it be someone like Kenny and I, a holistic nutritionist.
00:30:43
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But yeah because i even know like sometimes part, actually ah big part of my job is actually to a guide to clients because let's face it in our medical system, our doctors are wonderful, but they have 10 minutes of our time usually, right? we the One topic only, just one topic. You can't get into an hour appointment with them. There's just no time. It's just not the way in Canada our system is set up.
00:31:08
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So a lot of times I end up kind of coaching my clients to be like, make sure you record these symptoms for your doctor. Make sure you talk to them about this. Here's some blood work you can request to order. Here's some questions that you can ask them.
00:31:23
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And, you know, you kind of act as a guide or here's some, here's some tests you can ask for your naturopath versus your GP. And then we'd also dig into that diet and lifestyle changes. So it's sort of like find someone to kind of help be your guide.
00:31:40
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And you can reach out to when you do feel in a bit of a health crisis, as Tanya had mentioned earlier, where they can kind of help support your mindset and get back to your belief that what you're doing is working and what you're doing is supporting your body and making you feel your best.
00:32:00
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Absolutely. So our takeaway, keep doing the work. You are healing, even when it feels like you're not. And on those darkest days and those hardest time, lean in on your team and also take a moment to reflect where you came from and you will notice where you want to go. I love it. And where you came from and you're going to be nowhere close to where you started. So just keep going.
00:32:26
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Absolutely, guys. Happy 10th episode, Tanya. Thank you all for being here. And we look forward to talking to you all again next week. And i think next week is going to be September. I'm just saying, I'm sorry. is it going to be September? Way to end the episode, Tanya, and it's going to be September.
00:32:44
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Winter is coming. Oh, God. So enjoy the long weekend. Enjoy every last drop of sun. And we'll talk to you next week. Thanks everyone. Bye. Bye.
00:32:56
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00:33:10
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00:33:28
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