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087 - Preparing for the Holiday Break
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Previous episode with Billy Teefy
This week we welcome back Billy Teefy as the first ever returning guest! Billy and Connor sit down to talk about some post play techniques as well as how to prepare for the upcoming holiday break! We also talk about potential gift ideas for the goalie in your life!
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Podcast Introduction
00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to the DIY Goalie Podcast, where hosts and goalie coaches Nathan Park and Connor Munday share their insights on how to become a better goalie.
00:00:18
Speaker
How's it going, goalies? Welcome back to the DIY Goalie Podcast presented by true North Goaltending. I feel like it's been a while. Since I've been on the pod here and that I've seen everybody. So hi, how's it going?
Nathan's Absence and Announcements
00:00:31
Speaker
ah Nathan currently on assignment today, as he ah alluded to in the last episode, we've just been so busy between the both of us that we never really have any time to sit down and hang out with each other.
00:00:43
Speaker
Probably for the best, but you know, it's ah it it's a hit or miss. we we We love to hate each other at the same time. So yeah, but no, we definitely have a lot of stuff coming down the pipeline.
00:00:55
Speaker
ah that Nathan's been telling me about with the with True North Goaltending. So super excited to bring that forward, and I'll let him make the announcements in doing so.
Welcoming Billy Teefe
00:01:04
Speaker
I am very pleased to welcome back to the podcast, first time ever returning guest to the podcast, Mr. Billy Teefe from Doghouse Hockey Goaltending. are you doing today, Billy?
00:01:18
Speaker
I am doing well. i'm doing well. Glad to be the first return. Yeah, so there we go. That's that's our that's our next answer to our to our trivialist here's who's the first guest to to to make a reappearance on the podcast. The answer being Mr. Billy Teefy. Billy and I are going to do something kind of similar, but a little bit different at the same
Podcast Format Overview
00:01:41
Speaker
time. It's going to be ah A similar-ish episode as if Nathan and I were were doing a podcast together. And we're going to come together to with ah with a couple of segments today. So Billy has a thought of his that he wants to ah bring forward to you guys. And we're more than happy to allow him to use our platform to do that. So we're going to jump in with mine first
00:02:04
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um because I feel like mine will kind of get through a little bit quicker. and then we'll jump into into Billy's today.
Discussion on RVH and Overlap Positioning
00:02:11
Speaker
So my segment for today is we've been touching on this a lot, at least in the last couple of sessions that we've had with our with our organizational skate that we do every Monday. And I just want to talk about RVH post setup and the overlap, um because I feel like The RVH, although it's an underutilized position, i feel like it gets overdone at the same time. The overlap, I guess I would more so say is ah is an underutilized position. And then we don't necessarily focus on a whole lot, I feel like, nowadays in terms of how we set up on our posts. Yeah.
00:02:52
Speaker
properly um So I wanted to touch on the overlap quickly and just kind of when the most optimal time is to use it. And Billy, you were out with us, I think the last time that we, that we touched on this with one of our organizational skates. um But I feel the only, what i guess just first off, like the overlap in itself,
00:03:12
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is a position where we want to be kind of essentially 90 degree angle with our with our net, um not necessarily in ah in ah in a spot where our spine is in line with the post. I generally like to say it's the inside leg that's in line with the post. And we generally want to use our overlap, you know, for those...
00:03:32
Speaker
Dead angle shots, you know, that are kind of below the circle above the goal line. um Just kind of those instances there. You know, we see a lot of times where, you know, goalies will immediately revert either setting up on their posts on their feet or dropping down into their RVH thinking that they have their angles covered. But, I mean, shooters who can shoot, you know, they'll they'll pick that top corner. So, I feel, I mean, like, even then, like, I was i was doing some overlap stuff with my U18s, my like, week ago. Yeah.
00:04:04
Speaker
like a week ago and The goalie that I had was like, I've never really thought about using this position before. And so like I usually just revert to the RVH. So, you know, we just we just want to make sure that, you know, we're using the overlap effectively as best as we can. um I generally would also always say is that like if the puck ever drops below the goal line at any point and it starts to encroach closer into your net, then that's when we'd start to go into the RVH.
00:04:31
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But again, you know, like we've seen it in the NHL as well. You know, the puck will be in the far corner and the goalie will immediately drop down into the RVH where it's like you're essentially in a sense taking yourself out of the play. You're not really giving yourself an opportunity to.
00:04:47
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you know, make the save or, you know, you're just, you're opening up, up unnecessary, unnecessary holes. And so you think you're taking up space and you're really not. And even then, if that puck ever comes across behind the net, or if it's a low to high, then we're taking too much time trying to push across on our knees. And if you don't get a good push and you're end up being late or, you know, trying to come off of your post to the top of your crease, if you don't plant your feet and you don't get a good push back to your feet. And again, like you're late to the puck,
00:05:16
Speaker
So I've been, I've always been a big proponent of, you know, staying on our feet, holding our edges for
Importance of Play Reading and Goalie Positioning
00:05:22
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as long as we can. And, you know, knowing when to effectively utilize our RVH, which I personally say it's anything in tight.
00:05:30
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, I agree with that. And the other thing to look at it too, is is that if goalies that are six foot two, are getting scored out in the RVH from from those deep angles. The goalies that we work with that are three foot four or five feet tall, you know, they open up even more net in that. So i think the overlap becomes a more important part of their game and and less RVH in those situations.
00:05:56
Speaker
Yeah, I mean... I don't think it really to me personally. I mean, like obviously like the size of a goaltender definitely makes a difference. But I mean, in the same breath, too, it's the angle of the puck, right? It's the space. It's, you know, those imaginary lines from the post to the puck. You know, it's the amount of space that that puck actually has to see.
00:06:15
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you know So a difference in... ah difference in um yeah I've had that as well. you can you've see You can see it on previous podcast episodes where my cat's tail has made an appearance in front of the camera. um But...
00:06:33
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Sorry? I thought my door was shut, but I guess not. All good. um Yeah, so it anyways, like I was saying, um you know, where, you know, it's just the angle or the size of the goaltender, I don't, I personally don't think makes a huge difference. I think it's all about the angle of the of what the puck sees in a sense. Obviously, you know, size plays a huge, huge you know factor. But I don't think you know like if like if you stuck somebody like UC Soros in that position and you stuck somebody like, i don't know, Devin Dubnik, two very different sizable goaltenders, two very different styles of goaltending at the same time,
00:07:11
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again shooters who can shoot whether it's mcdavid or crosby or ovechkin you know if they shoot or even dry settle for that matter you know they shoot from you know that side that side of the crease you know that particular area um you know it's it the the results essentially is going to be the same so it's it's a matter of how we utilize our position especially on our dead end and dead angles effectively Yeah, there' that makes sense. That makes sense.
00:07:39
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yeah So, and I guess on that position, do you, do do you kind of set up a rule or a general rule of thumb of, you know, if they're in the, in the trapezoid that might be, or in that tight, that that's your RVH position and anything outside of the bottom of that circle is, is more, more on your feet.
00:08:02
Speaker
yeah i would Yeah, I would definitely say so. I mean, like again, like the RVH is a nice position you know for anything kind of close and tight, right? Because that's that's what it's essentially designed to do. um you know Because, like again, like obviously, and this is kind of where size does play a factor, I suppose, you know where a 3'2 goalie who stands in who's who's in the RVH something and tight... there might be a little more holes open kind of over the shoulders versus a, um you know, versus a six foot two or even like a 5'10", 5'11", goaltender, right? So obviously dramatic size differences there, but, you know, the the same the same principle to me still applies. But again, like it'ss it's about the angle.
00:08:47
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to your rate and it's, and it's a matter of utilizing it
Teaching Space Coverage Techniques
00:08:50
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effectively. So I personally say like anything in type v h r VH, RVH, however you want to play that, that's, that's fine. Anything further out, you know, cause that puck has a long distance to go from, you know, the far corner of the, of the end zone to the blue line, um you know, or even corner to corner, you know, we are, we are much faster in terms of movement on our feet versus, know,
00:09:13
Speaker
drop down the RVH, rotate, load the leg, push across, hit your spot on the post, and then, you know, whatever happens from there, right? So I look at that from, like, you know, from, like, a movement perspective. um But, yeah, no, I think definitely anything in tight, you know, because we want to seal that ice as much as we can because, you know, if we talk about box control as well, you know, as the puck,
00:09:36
Speaker
comes in closer to our net, the space in between the three posts, you know, collapses, right? um I always like always like to you you know, go the the stick and crossbar method, you know, where like my stick acts as, you know, that external crossbar. And so as that puck starts to come in, you know, that crossbar starts to get lower and lower on our body. So even even then, by the time that puck is maybe on our doorstep or maybe even a few inches, you know, outside of our crease, you know, that's that crossbar, that imaginary crossbar, you know, is about ah around where, like what our pelvic region, you know, maybe mid, mid stomach, mid, mid abdomen, you know, yeah kind of that sort of spot. So.
00:10:19
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Yeah. I mean, it's. I'll utilize the ropes quite often with the kids to, to show them that, right. To, to really give that visualization of how big or small that net is behind them. So. yeah But it's, you know, and and and it kind of leads into ah and another point as well, you know, where we talk about play reading, right?
00:10:36
Speaker
um You know, the the hockey IQ, you know, side of it. um And, you know, again, like I said, like you see it in the NHL, you know, where that puck's in the far corner and the goalie's automatically dropping into the ah RVH. And you're kind of like, why? And especially you look stupid when, you know, they get beat over the shoulder kind of from that far out corner spot. And and everybody's like, why did he go down so early?
00:10:57
Speaker
You know, so it's, up to the goaltender as well, you know, and if you, if if you do have that in goal magazine subscription, which I do, and you know, I turn, I tune into pro reads every once in a while, you know, um, especially for anything until, you know, you're, you're, you're listening or you're watching just kind of how the, how the, how the pro goaltender is, you know, reading the play, um,
00:11:20
Speaker
you know, stick handedness, you know, we're X one, two or three, you know, is, um um you know, all that stuff. So it's, we want to make sure, you know, even then in our our own zone, you know, that we're scanning the ice that we're paying attention to who's where, maybe the handedness, if you're that good, um which Scott Wedgwood is, I don't know if you saw his recent interview after scaning you know that's, that's, that's incredible how he knows that.
00:11:47
Speaker
um But, you know, just the, um you know, we just we have to, you know, we have to make a decision and we got we got to make sure that we're making the right decision.
Hockey IQ and Decision-Making for Goalies
00:11:56
Speaker
Right. So we want to make sure that, you know, we're we're utilizing, you know, our save executions effectively and and which in turn we have to start, you know,
00:12:06
Speaker
kind of having a bit of a hockey sense of hockey IQ in terms of, okay, that puck is way on the corner. Do I need to be in my RVH? You know, ah like how much net am I covering? Am I on a good angle? Oh, that puck's, you know, in that weird space between, you know, below the circle and above the goal line.
00:12:22
Speaker
Do I need to be in my RVH? Do I need to be flat on my goal line? Do I need to be, you know, kind of giving up that short side? You know, how do I, like, how do I play this angle, of you know, essentially, right? So,
00:12:34
Speaker
You know, it's just, it's stuff like that, you know, and obviously we don't expect that a whole lot from, you know, like our U11s. maybe a little bit from our U9, from our U13s, or at least the introductory of it.
00:12:48
Speaker
um You know, definitely heading into our U15s, our U16s, U17s, and even my U18s now. You know, we have to have a more understanding of zone coverage, you know, man-to-man, you know, stuff like that. And then when that occurs, then we have a better idea of what type of save selection that we want to use.
00:13:12
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. um You know, actually, it was interesting that the the right and left handed, as you talked about the box control and the ropes, I'll quite often show the kids the difference between a righty and a lefty. I stand there and not move my feet.
00:13:27
Speaker
And and there's there's there's up to five feet of difference in where that puck sits as I switch from right handed to left handed. so So having exposure and understanding that difference and what that angle looks like, I think makes a big difference for some of the kids who, you know, are obviously a little little higher level.
00:13:44
Speaker
um But even how they integrate into that post, where where they're where they're hitting it and and the difference that makes. Yeah. Um,
Post Setup and Equipment Discussion
00:13:55
Speaker
yeah. And then just, you know, just kind of talking about setting up on our posts effectively as well. Right. You know, um, you know, whether it be in our, on our feet or in our RVH, we want get make sure that we're getting that nice seal along the posts, you know, that we're not, um, you know, creating any holes. Um, I'm still ah of the old school mind, you know, where that glove hand is flipped over. So, you know, the more padding side is, you know facing towards the puck because if you've ever taken a puck to the back of that glove it hurts like um o but um finger for that that exact right so
00:14:33
Speaker
yeah Yeah, exactly. I mean, like I don't know if you saw... There was a thing that increased performance. was i think I think it was them. They were going on about you know the Sergei Bobrovsky and how he sets up in his RVH in particular where he has that glove closed and the backhand side um you know exposed there. when you know and Because it's Sergei Bobrovsky and that's everybody's favorite goaltender, they're like, oh, I got to do that. But you don't actually... well there's, there's either a, a reason that he's doing it or B, maybe he's just being lazy in terms of doing it. So now that's creating, to me, that's creating a set or setting a bad precedent, a set bad example, because we want to make sure that number one, we're protecting ourselves.
00:15:14
Speaker
Number two, that we're, you know, filling up as many holes as we can. Right. You know, and then even like, especially as well, just going back to our feet and setting up on our posts for a second there, you know, we want to make sure that,
00:15:25
Speaker
you know, like i said, we're getting like the good seal, we're covering up as much as many holes as we can, but we're not necessarily like just kind of leaning on our post for the sake of leaning on our post, right? We want to make sure that we're, you know, setting up properly, um good seals, you know, not exposing any holes as much as we can. And then even, you know, having if it's on our blocker side, you know, then how we're having our our glove hand kind of ready to snag pucks out of midair, you know, we have a a semi-decent you know active stick and then you know same thing on the glove side. For me it's that hand turned over so you know the the pocket side is facing outwards. ah you know We have that nice active stick there. it same Same idea you know with the with the with the RVH here as well. I'm curious to know your thoughts because I think I'm in the minority here where I am personally not a fan
00:16:19
Speaker
of toe ties or toe bungees on posts. And so my reason for that, I can feel people glaring at me already, ah you know, where so I understand the purpose behind it and I can appreciate what it does.
00:16:37
Speaker
My problem is that, especially for younger levels, so U13 is a maybe, U11 more so, U9s if we really want to get down there. um ah That area for me is such a small target to hit and to get on your posts effectively.
00:17:00
Speaker
Good skaters, good people with edge work can, and it takes obviously years of practice and that's totally fine. But for me, again, it's,
00:17:12
Speaker
more so i'm I'm talking about efficiency and, you know, being effective at the same time. Right. So I've, I've always gone with, you know, the toe box inside the posts. I know that creates, I know that creates a small hole, but I've never had that happen to me. So, you know, I will, and I will die on that Hill. um Sorry. Yeah. No, I actually, i I'm excited you brought this up because I agree with you on hundred percent. Um, reasons, right. And the reason that, that I don't necessarily, one of them is the reason I don't necessarily push, especially the younger kid to go toe laces versus toe bungees either.
00:17:52
Speaker
One is that getting into that post and pushing off at that size, most of the posts they're playing on aren't anchored well anchored posts. So if you're pushing, using that toe lace to push off of that post every time with a hard push and expecting good resistance, there's a good chance you're not getting.
00:18:11
Speaker
um right The post can move. so But the other thing too with the little guys is is just the flexion on that hip. A toe box, like your your your lace on on post versus your shin on post or the toe box on post is quite a bit of extra torque for them young hips.
00:18:31
Speaker
So reducing that I think is good. And and really for a lot them, especially the younger ones, if you hit it, you hit it. right I don't care where it's perfect as long as you hit it. um you know The other thing I'll do going into size is that if you're shit on posts like Tukorask versus Tole's on posts, most of those young goalies sit two or three inches higher because they're not leaning so far to get to the post.
00:18:57
Speaker
So, right yeah, I think you know maybe it's a little bit different different reasoning, but very similar theory that that I have with it. Yeah, i've've I've tried it with both bla or you know steel on steel and even bridge on post.
00:19:15
Speaker
And my hips hate it. i can't I can't sit on that for very long. And you know, the human body really, yeah I mean, unless you're flexible enough, I suppose to do that. The human body isn't necessarily designed to you know, bend that way. Right. And so, you know, and then even like, get like like, I'm glad like you brought like the, the, the, the scale laces and the bungees in terms of, you know, torque. I've seen it firsthand where i try to get my guys to bump off their posts. And because that bungee or the toe lace, it's absorbing that kinetic energy.
00:19:49
Speaker
right to come off the post. They're not getting that good enough push out to their post, and so now they're selling themselves maybe a few inches short of depth. They're selling their themselves you know a few inches short of... I had something else I was going to say, but I think just selling themselves a few inches short of depth and maybe on it and maybe being square to the puck as well, you know in good position. um you know I think that's that's a problem to me because we obviously want to try and...
00:20:19
Speaker
capitalize on ah the amount of net that we, that we take up as much as possible. Again, no disrespect to anybody that teaches it, no disrespect to anybody that does it or that prefers that for me, it's just not one of those things that I see,
00:20:35
Speaker
not value in, but more so just, uh, the real, sorry. That's not the hill I'm dying on. It's yeah, yeah it's, it's, yeah, it's, I was, i was just going to say like, it's more so just the, um, you know, the, the practicality of it, I suppose is the word that I'm looking for there. So,
00:20:57
Speaker
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, no, I was I was curious, definitely to ah to to know to know your thoughts on that, because I i think that's a that's a hot button topic sometimes with with goalies and goalie coaches.
Holiday Breaks and Goalie Relaxation
00:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, that's the yeah I'm glad you brought it up. but Actually, as we were talking about it, it kind of ran through my mind a little bit. Anyway, I was going to ask you a similar question. So it worked out.
00:21:18
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah. I got nothing else to talk about with that in particular. Again, just, we want to make sure goalies that, and you know, we're utilizing those save executions or those positionings, if you will, most effectively as best as we can.
00:21:35
Speaker
um You know, cause if we, if we make the wrong decision, don't know the, the, the possibility of the goal going in is a lot higher. Right. So um Billy, I don't know if you have any like final thoughts on that at all, or, well i could I would just like to add something for the um like for for the team coaches in a situation is to try and give your goalies an opportunity to work on that a little bit in practice. Try and set up some things so they are hitting trying to hit that post or hit the overlap um and and work on the post play.
00:22:06
Speaker
we We get a lot of straight on shots. We get a lot of you know flow drills where everything's straight on. So if we can set up some drills to that that allow some post play, your goalies get better at it, right?
00:22:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, no, i definitely I definitely agree with that. I think, you know, if head coaches, as much as we would like them to, um you know, can... I mean, even then, I would more so say just, like, if we can get them to focus on, you know, realism in terms of shots and where they're placed, you know what I mean? Because, again, like you said, you know, like a lot of the shots that we face as goaltenders, particularly in...
00:22:46
Speaker
team drills you know there are a lot of dead on you know in the slot type shots there never really any um down low dry sidle area or even like ovechkin area um you know type shots it's a lot of just kind of in that space that goes from ah between the hash marks you know to the face off dots there's never really anything further towards the boards right so that's a different tangent for a different time, but um yeah, but definitely, yeah, coaches, if we can start implementing some more in tight shots, you know, kind of some more dead angle shots, I think, you know, and it'll not only help your, it'll not only help your shooters, but it'll help your goaltenders at the same time.
00:23:28
Speaker
Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. ah let's jump into Let's jump into yours today because you and I had a chat earlier this earlier this afternoon because I needed a topic for yeah for today's podcast. It shows how well I'm prepared. And you came at me with with with a really good one here and I don't think we've touched on it yet at all in in the history of the DIY Goalie podcast. So what's ah what's what's your segment for today?
00:23:56
Speaker
Thank you. and My segment, I wanted to talk about Christmas upcoming and and and a bit of the Christmas break, right? Is, you know, my son just had his first regular season game tierings done, you know, been through a tournament already. So, so lots of hockey trial process, right? So hockey has been going on for a couple of months now.
00:24:16
Speaker
um And, and the kids have been playing a lot and we've got a little bit of a time for break and over Christmas. Right. And, and, um, With that, I think it's important for the kids to be kids too. you know I know there's there's there's Christmas camp opportunities, things like that, where where they have an opportunity to um to to work on on skills and and some development stuff, but also you know take the opportunity to to work on some other athleticism.
00:24:47
Speaker
you know b you know, maybe we go play pickleball with your, your uncle or your grandmother, you know, as if somebody in the family does, or, you know, a little bit of basketball, just, just some time to go play toboggan, you know, up and down that hill, build some conditioning and and things like that. I think it's important to take, take that little bit of a break and and not necessarily to be a hundred percent a hockey player over the Christmas break. Right.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yeah. No, yeah ah no, absolutely. No, you're absolutely right on that. I think, you know, like, again, for people like you and me that, you know, run the business side of things, you know, we absolutely profit off of that. um But, you know, the again, the the actuality or the the realisticness of it is,
00:25:32
Speaker
yeah i mean like we like we've talked about it a lot you know too in terms of the off season as well you know going to play different sports you know go be a kid you know go you know go hang out you know with your friends and take a break from hockey for you know four weeks and you know then maybe start to slowly reintegrate yourself into it especially with it being the holiday season the purpose of it over anything is to be spending time with family you know to be you know, spending, you know, spending time, you know, with your friends, you know, hang out you know, and just, you know, take in, you know, the opportunity and to hang out around with the people that, you know, are most dear to you essentially. And so, you know, again, like, yeah,
00:26:14
Speaker
it depends again, like, I guess I suppose in the same breath of like what you as the athlete want to, know, get out of it. um You know, if it's hockey all the time, 24 seven and Hey, good on you. But, you know, again, like we've talked about as well, you know, there is a real thing called burnout. There is a real thing called um you know, mental struggles and, and, and everything of that sort. So we want to be making sure that, um,
00:26:40
Speaker
you know, that we're taking care of ourselves at the same time. How realistic do you think it is, you know, especially at the pro level, you know, that these guys, you know, who maybe, you know, maybe they don't get as much of a Christmas break, you know, as the minor hockey athletes do. I think some, you know, players are right back at it.
00:26:58
Speaker
what, two, three days later. And then, you know, it's the, it's the new year stuff. But i mean, I think for minor hockey in particular, if I look at, you know, as an example, my U18s schedule here, uh, cause I have it up.
00:27:10
Speaker
Their last game is December 14th. And then there's two ish weeks, two, three weeks in between there where there's no games, you know, up until the following Saturday, January 20th, January 23rd, January 3rd. Sorry. Um, you know, so, uh, you know, that's, that's that time, you know, maybe you can pick, you know, pick up the, pick up the skates, you know, go to go to your local ODR and, you know, maybe work on a couple of things here and there, but the purpose of that time off is to take care of yourselves, to, to,
00:27:44
Speaker
you know, do what you need to do to recharge, get away from, get away from the game a bit, you know, maybe you're taking a trip down to, to, you know, to Mexico or, you know, somewhere that's warmer and doesn't have as much snow as we do here in Edmonton and the surrounding area right now. um You know, this, that's, that's what that, that's what that time is, is, is, is used for. And so we want to be making sure that we're utilizing that effective Yeah, agreed. You know, one thing, and actually I just i didn't realize it until until I heard it the other day, but the NHL is the only pro league that doesn't have a Christmas game schedule. um that That plays in the winter, obviously baseball doesn't, but, you know, football, basketball, they know all have Christmas games. And so I like that hockey doesn't. They're they're back at it pretty quick, but there's that little bit of a break. But the other thing that ah that you brought up that I think is really important is is is, you know, if you do really want to get out and skate and and you don't have anything scheduled and booked, going out to the ODR or finding a shiny or a pickup game to just to go just play the game and and have fun with it. um and And, you know, if there's something specific you want to work on, sure. But it's it's a low pressure, low structured situation. You even get the chance to to go out with a bunch of buddies and work on your trip game a little bit as you're out there. giving each other grief, right? Like just, you know, just have that fun with it, play the game. So, you know, I think that's important over the next next few weeks as we as we take that time. so
00:29:14
Speaker
I was thinking, you know, i as know, it's funny as you as you're mentioning that as well. I mean, I think, you know, it's important or I wouldn't say it's important, but I think, you know, it'd be a good thing for goalies in particular is, you know, pick up a you don't pick up a player stick, pick up some player gloves, some player skates, you know, and go out and, you know, be a player, you know, go go go play with the puck, you know, go score goals and.
00:29:38
Speaker
you know, the back of the ODR net, you know, that's falling apart, which has happened, you know, and so just, you know, all, you know, just stuff like that, you know, just get away from like, like if you don't want to get away from the game of hockey, that's, that's fine, but get away from being a goalie, you know, go,
00:29:54
Speaker
go do something else. Go put the puck in the back of the net. Cause you know, as much as, as much fun as it is, you know, to, to save the puck, it's a lot of fun as well, you know, the, the score. And so that's one of the main reasons why I like being a goalie coach, but you know, that's the, that's, that's, that's the truth of it, you know, in the, in, in the same breath. So I think, you know, again, like if you are going to go out, head out to the ODR, you know, grab a player stick, grab some player gloves, you know, go out, pass a puck around, shoot the puck on the net, you know, play a, play a,
00:30:25
Speaker
play a pickup game, you know, with with, you know, where the sticks are in the middle, you know, the guy's throwing them on either side of the either side of the crease or either side of the net, and that's that's your team. And, you know, just go just just just go just go be a player for a bit, you know, essentially.
00:30:39
Speaker
Yeah, I like it. and And I was even thinking, too, you know, for if if you've got a buddy defenseman that hurts you all the time, throw your gear on him, you know, switch spots for a game of shading, right? um yeah i think that's i think that's uh a fantastic way to look at it you know one thing i always enjoy uh one of the associations i work with um i'll run all the goalies through i have a bunch of the the the kids from the teams with the goalies i work with come out as shooters and and get involved as well and uh when i'm doing my skating we'll always throw one puck out for all the shooters and they'll go play a little bit of shinny down in the other end and And it's amazing how quickly a fairly structured game breaks out as soon as the puck hits the ice, right? There's no instructions. There's no anything. They just, they play, they're laughing, they're beating each other up in the corners and and just just having some fun with the sports. So it's fun to watch.
New Gear Excitement and Challenges
00:31:35
Speaker
um You know, I guess, so moving on to the next part of the Christmas is there there's a good chance that a lot of the young goalies out there are going to get new gear this year for Christmas.
00:31:47
Speaker
and That's a big thing. so you know and and Everybody knows what new gear feels like. you know i don't know and I'll ask you a question here too. like what is What is your favorite piece of new gear to try and what is the worst piece of new gear to put on?
00:32:02
Speaker
some things like I could wear a new pair of pads every game and and love it. But ah you know a new chesty or a new pair of pants, hate breaking those in.
00:32:14
Speaker
so Okay, so I'll answer the first part of that first. And I think you and I know probably the answer, you know, based on the the decor that you have behind you there and the decor that I have just slightly out of frame behind me. Anytime new pads, new blocker, maybe the new glove, you know, because you have to kind of break it in and break it in a little bit. You know, I think anytime that, you know, you get any new piece of leather, you know, is is is the coolest thing in the world. I think, you know, honestly, for me, though, I think I would actually have to say is a new bucket.
00:32:46
Speaker
You I have, you know, I can, I can probably grab it here.
00:32:54
Speaker
So if you're watching on the video side of things, i am currently holding my Hakva custom painted, but also not really custom painted. has a little bit of dust on it mask. um You know, it's got a nice little maple leaf on the front, you know, with some maple leaves kind of underneath. This was the actual first custom mask that I ever got, although it was still like a stock mask because this was the design on Hakva's website.
00:33:22
Speaker
Oh, here we go. Billy's got his here. Yeah, so it's funny. Actually, I still wear a Hakfa, but the last one i bought. So yeah, so this one is ah it's a custom eddy, and I had a friend of mine, a hot rod guy, do the paint job on it.
00:33:37
Speaker
all yeah And a total non-goalie signature, I got it signed by Ken Danico.
00:33:45
Speaker
He played with my favorite goalie growing up. So i I'll call it. Nice. But yeah, so so and so going back to just my story here. So this mask, I think I got this actually after Christmas. I think this was one of the Christmas gifts that I had here because that other mask that's behind me here, again, if you're watching on the YouTube side of things, um that I had that mask from my second year novice up into my first year, or second year Bantam, I think, actually.
00:34:16
Speaker
Maybe peewee. I'm not sure. um But obviously, you know, that mask would be more so for junior goaltenders. You know, you start taking pucks to the head. You know, your head starts to ring a little bit more than you like, which is unfortunately also why that I had to move on from this thing is because, you know, it's got all the the paint chips and and so and such there. But I thought, i thought you know...
00:34:39
Speaker
You know, it was a lot of fun, you know, getting a new mask, um you know, and um I just, you know, seeing some of the artwork, you know, that's that these guys can come up with nowadays. i mean, unfortunately, my current mask, you know, when I do play every once a while, is just a plain white mask. So, you know, don't feel as cool there. But, you know, that's I think I think for me, just like any time it's any type of new kind of outward piece of equipment, I thought that was always the the best thing to get.
00:35:08
Speaker
What was the second part of your question again? it's just, you know, what your, your favorite, the, the, you what, what do you hate breaking in the most and, and what, okay. yeah when andly That you don't, don't really care about breaking.
00:35:22
Speaker
Um, I guess the one that I don't really care about breaking in a whole lot is the glove. I think that's kind of an obvious one. Um, you kind of touched them on ah on it already, you know, any new chest protector or pants, I think, you know, is the worst thing in the world. Um, I, I feel like the worst though, although it's never happened to me, but I feel like probably the worst thing, probably the break in probably mid season, a new pair of skates.
00:35:49
Speaker
Yes. I feel like that is probably the number one worst thing to break in, especially when you're mid season, you know, cause like maybe you're going a size up, ah you know, when you know, you're still growing, you know, the, the blades kind of get, you know, more, they get bigger essentially. Right. So you're kind of relearning your edges all over again.
00:36:11
Speaker
um and So I think, you know, that definitely ah I think definitely the skates is probably the worst, ah worst piece of equipment it is to break in. I agree. and and And it can be ah just a really big switch and feel. I know I used to play in a set old Graf Goaler Pros with the giant cowling and the four mil steel.
00:36:31
Speaker
And when I finally switched to the new style of skate, wow, like just what a difference, right? Just my approach angle where I fell off my skates, where where everything connected, it it it it took a long time to get used to them. And then I just started getting used to them and I switched to the connects. So, which was different in itself, right? um I tell you, my first first two games in in the new K'Nex, my thighs and and shins were on fire because I'm used to leaning on the tongue of the skate and that really isn't there anymore in the K'Nex, right? So that can be a big change.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah, I still have my yeah my my CCM RVZ Jet Speed goalie skates. those are Those are eternal for me now when it comes to ah when it comes to... I look at the new goalie skates that are out there now, and I i don't i still don't know how I feel about them. I know I'm not a huge fan of the Bauer Connects. I think simply just based on how they look, but they're probably a really nice skate when you actually put them on.
00:37:29
Speaker
Um, so, so, so let me ask you this one then. So let's say, okay, young Billy Teefy gets a new pair of skates or, you know, a glove or chest protector. How would you go about integrating that piece of equipment into your game for the rest of the season?
00:37:53
Speaker
So how I actually do it or how you probably should? okay Well, give me that I guess I was, I was, I was going to say, I guess, give me the legal answer first and then give me the non-legal answer afterwards.
00:38:09
Speaker
oh Well, it's, it's really like, you know, again, if you have time to get out to the ODR and, and just practice it and get used to the feel and, and, or, you know, wear it to a couple of practices and kind of go back and forth until you feel real confident with it is probably the best way.
00:38:26
Speaker
Um, when I get new gear, it's, I'm too excited not to just go out and and play it, but I'm a pretty low stakes player where I play now too. Right. So it's not, right it's not that big of a deal, but, uh, yeah, just getting some time to get used to it really is, is what it is. Um,
00:38:42
Speaker
Because it it is going to feel different. um and And, you know, a lot of ah a lot of, everybody's different, I guess. You know, a lot of kids are a really, i really used to a certain feel of something like that. and And even struggling in the youngest ones, going from a player's skate to a goalie's skate is a big change for them, right?
00:39:02
Speaker
So it's just a matter of getting out into areas where it's ah a low-pressure situation. You don't want to be rocking into your you know a first tournament. you know You've got your tournament January 6th, and you've got a brand-new pair of skates and a brand-new chest protector and all of that, and you throw it all on, and you have to play four games in a row in it and and might not enjoy that whole experience, right? So just taking some time to to get used to it.
00:39:29
Speaker
I was going to, you know, you know it wass funny, and we were talking about it earlier, you know, with the with the with the winter camps. You know, I think that is it that is another good opportunity. Should you so choose to, um you know, register yourself for for that, you know, that is another good opportunity in terms of breaking it in. Because that's what essentially what those camps are.
00:39:49
Speaker
are designed you know to do is to um you know kind of shake a little bit of rust off not a whole lot maybe redefine a couple of things in your game but even then as well as designed to you know integrate new equipment whether that is you know new pads new chest protector ah skates whatever that may be um you know and integrate integrate that into your game so then you do start to gain a little bit more comfortability when with with that new piece of equipment.
00:40:20
Speaker
Yeah, certainly. certainly you know And I think maybe the one for kids too that might be a little bit underappreciated is a new stick. Because a lot of kids will go from that first that first stick or the stick that the association provides or something that's a little CCM 21-inch stick and they'll get a ah brand new you know proto 24 inch paddle and boys out of her a big change for, uh, for the the
Practical Gifts for Young Goalies
00:40:45
Speaker
smaller goalies. Right. So getting getting used to that.
00:40:49
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Um, I, I, I, I broke a lot of sticks in my, in, in, in my career. So don't, don't talk to my dad about sticks. I went, I'm pretty sure I've gone through five of them in one season. So I guess I just hated my dad that much. Um,
00:41:06
Speaker
I guess kind of transitioning maybe a little bit. We were going to talk about this last year. we never really got around to it because we never really did much research on it. So I i guess I'm going kind of throw you on the spot here with it.
00:41:21
Speaker
Your advice to goalie parents ah in terms of what to get their goalie for Christmas.
00:41:32
Speaker
That's, i yeah, I guess is if if you're looking at big equipment or, you know, just stocking stuffers, you know, they're quite different. um But I guess the the, and I'll go back to the Ingole magazine, what they talk about too, like if you're looking for, for um you know, they they talk in the parent segment quite a bit about, you know, finding the right the the piece of gear that's comfortable for your kid, right? But, you know, with your helmets, if you're looking at helmets, basically the the best one you can afford. and You know, that's that's one thing to to really pay attention to is the helmets.
00:42:09
Speaker
um You know, I don't know what your thoughts are on this, but I think in minor hockey, danglers should be mandatory. um You know, so I think it's really important for the for the younger kids to have to have the the dangler on. So, you know something like that is as a little lower budget Christmas item versus a full new set of custom pads or something like that.
00:42:32
Speaker
um And you know maybe in the in the stocking stuffer, smaller items, um you know a good pair cut proof socks.
00:42:43
Speaker
I think is is good. You know, some balls, some juggling balls. I have a little thing that I give out at all the, for the tournaments as part of my donation is um a little tabletop ping pong set where you can just clamp the net onto a ah kitchen table and, you know, things like that. Just anything that kind of gets them, you know, doing some hand-dice stuff, movement like that, I find really good for those smaller gifts.
00:43:13
Speaker
is is that kind of along the lines of what you were looking for? are you you looking Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, you know, just, just as like ah a generalization, I suppose, if you will. Right. you know, I do know cases that say I dream of shutouts and have a picture of a goalie on it. Right. So, you know those have always been a hit. and Anything kind of anything, you know, goalie swag related. I know you guys have some shirts on your website as well that kids and parents seem to really like. So,
00:43:41
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Um, I guess like, yeah, the dangler thing, I wore a dangler for the longest time. I still know how I feel about it. Um, I guess like, obviously, like obviously neck guards mandatory, and i no, no, no, no ifs, ands or buts about that. I just recently started wearing my own again after taking one too many to the clavicle.
00:44:01
Speaker
Um, um, ah yeah I guess i guess like in terms of like my list, in terms of what I'd you know what i'd want to get, you know my goaltender, should she decide to become a goaltender, which partially I hope not. um you know i think you know ah you you know you kind of touched on it already. you know like Nothing wrong you know with a new stick.
00:44:21
Speaker
Um, you know, I always, I remember always getting excited about, you know, having like a new road hockey stick, you know, um, um, you know, around Christmas time, um, you know, or even then, you know, it's, I think Christmas time as a generalization for your goaltender, should you want to get a a larger piece of equipment, you know, is, is anything that's going to protect your kid.
00:44:44
Speaker
Right. You know, kind of upgrading that, upgrading that jock, upgrading that, you know, neck guard um helmet even, you know, it doesn't necessarily need to be something as large as a, as a chest protector or, or pants, but, you know, something that's going to add that extra little bit of protection, you know, to your kid, you know, if it's even as it's that, you know, under armor shirt, that's got the, the padding integrated into it. Knee guards even is even, and you know, another one.
00:45:12
Speaker
You know, I think it's it's it's underappreciating, you know, that back in our day, you know, where the, I think even still, you know, pads come with the the the integrated knee guards or like the knee guards attached to the pad, you know, the random stock ones, but you can get like an actual...
00:45:31
Speaker
proper set of goalie set goalie specific knee guards that you know will will fit better to your goal uh to your goaltender's leg you know and we'll add that extra little bit of protection rather than whatever comes stock with the pad should they still come on i haven't bought pads in a while so i so i have no idea we do come with them anymore which is is a bit of a miss because i see a lot of young goalies coming into camps and skates that don't have any knee guards at all Right. Usually kind of the first conversation with the parents are like, okay, you want to get some knee pads for your goalie because nothing deters a young goalie
Goaltending-Themed Gifts and Podcast Closing
00:46:06
Speaker
starting out like two or three stingers in the knee in a practice.
00:46:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Get your goalie some knee guards as Christmas parents. so um too Yeah. And then having a business that, that, that teach young goalies is, is, you know, a lot of parents will buy some camps or some training sessions for the young goalies too, is as a Christmas present, which is, uh, I appreciate this. Nathan's going to be mad at me because I didn't even think of that. so Yeah, ah yeah go go buy some sessions. ah Doghouse Hockey. Is it Doghouse Hockey or dogckhouse goal tendly goal Doghouse Doghouse Goaltending Development.
00:46:45
Speaker
ah Yeah, go go go get some sessions from them or truenorthgoaltending.com. Yeah, I guess in terms of stocking stuffers, you know, i I always used to, i for i mean, I had to redo my entire collection.
00:47:00
Speaker
But, you know, hockey cards are obvious are always always a must, um you know, in and in the Monday household. And I remember specifically... you know, going through these cards, you know, and always, you know, setting aside the goaltenders. And so the goaltenders would go in their own little area and then the rest of the players would just go in a box.
00:47:19
Speaker
Right. So I recently redid the entire thing. So now I have all of the teams and all of the players, but so I always, I always liked looking at the, you know, the, the, the goaltending hockey cards, you know, you know, especially like if you got like some older players,
00:47:35
Speaker
ish ones you know like some marty brodeur some henrik lungquist um dan cluches to drop a random name out there um in sorry I said Pete Peters, but that might be a little bit old for even you. Yeah. um You know, just you know you know any any any type of goaltending-related card. Jerseys, obviously, are another one. I refuse to wear a jersey with any player's name on it due to superstition reasons. But, um you know, just any you know anything that is of goaltending-related
00:48:11
Speaker
related you know, even like some ornaments, you know, I have a few kind of goaltending ornaments that are on my, ah that are on my Christmas tree. I have one of a hockey net with a goalie stick and I have another one of a, of a, of a goalie making a semi windmill saves, you know? So just little, you know, little trinkets, you know, like that as well for, for your little goaltender, you know, to, to kind of have on them or to kind of have in their, in their own personal areas always, ah is always, ah is always a good idea as well.
00:48:38
Speaker
Yeah. You bet. You bet. Yeah. Uh, anything else to add on kind of the whole goaltenders and Christmas topic or. You know, I think that that's kind of all I had in mind. Uh, you know, you can, you can go down, you know, pretty deep, deep rabbit hole as far as, you know, all the, all the gear and all of that stuff. But, uh, yeah, no, I, I think we covered kind anything that I wanted to talk about. Perfect.
00:49:05
Speaker
Perfect. for all the yeah For all the hockey moms out there, I know that Pinterest is a thing and that's where my wife likes to go a lot. So Pinterest is also an option, I suppose. And I i would gear that more towards the goalie moms of our little podcast here. um Yeah, I got nothing else to add either. This was a really, ah really fun conversation that that Billy and I had here today. And so, Billy, thank you for for for taking the time. And yeah,
00:49:34
Speaker
you know, hanging out with me on the pod today. Yeah, i appreciate it you know, glad to be back and, uh, anytime, anytime. Perfect. Uh, where can, uh, where, where, where can people find you? Should they have questions about you or goaltending or whether they want to book some, uh, book some ice with you?
00:49:51
Speaker
Uh, well, yeah, so I've got, uh, my mother website, um, and, and Instagram are the same doghousehockey, uh,.com and, or sorry,.ca. And, uh,
00:50:02
Speaker
my My Facebook page is Doug House Coltender Development. So anything on there, you can can can get a hold of me. And you know all my my other contact info is on the website as well. so Perfect. Well, we'll link all that down in the show notes, or you can go back to the podcast that Billy was on with Nathan a few episodes ago, as I am frantically trying to find it, but unfortunately I cannot. ah So, yeah, but if you guys want if you guys want to watch the previous episode that Billy was on, the podcast with Nathan, kind of talking about Billy's, ah um a little bit've been but a little bit of his playing career, but mostly talking about neurodivergent goalies, ah you guys can go check out that. We will link that in the show notes as well. On on behalf of Nathan and myself,
00:50:54
Speaker
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00:51:58
Speaker
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00:52:21
Speaker
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00:53:30
Speaker
Oh, he didn't leave his name, but whoever reached out to us on Instagram asking if we were the DIY goalie podcast, shout out to you. We really do appreciate the kind words. So that was that was really, yeah really cool to see. So we appreciate all the kind words and all all of the viewership and listenership.
00:53:46
Speaker
that we do get across the globe, which is still wild to me, but it is what it is. And yeah, we just really appreciate it all. On behalf of myself, Nathan Park and Billy TV, this has been the DIY goalie podcast presented by True North Goaltending. Make some saves. Merry Christmas, goalies. We'll see you guys next time. Take care.