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Winter is Conference and Event Season

S1 E36 · Hort Culture
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Winter is a great time for home gardeners and commercial producers to learn new skills and get inspired by attending horticulture conferences and educational events. These events offer opportunities to develop relationships with other growers, hear from experts in the field, and discover new trends and technologies. Whether you are interested in organic farming, urban gardening, or ornamental plants, there is an event for you. Join us as we talk about some of the upcoming horticulture events coming up this winter.

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Introduction and Thanksgiving Joy

00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome to Hort Culture, where a group of extension professionals and plant people talk about the business, production and joy of planting seeds and helping them grow. Join us as we explore the culture of horticulture. What's up? We're here today. We're here and we're hungry. That's where we are. That's correct. Thinking about food. I mean, that's every week, we should be honest with you. But it is, you know, Thanksgiving is upon us. So we're here and we're hungry.
00:00:32
Speaker
Yeah. Anybody have a favorite Thanksgiving food? Is it about the main dishes or the sides? It's about gravy.

Gravy and Deviled Eggs Delights

00:00:40
Speaker
You put gravy on and how much gravy is left. You can put gravy on the main, which is typically sometimes the meats, ham or turkey, or you can put it on the side. So it's a very versatile slathering of a food product. I think you can put it on everything. Probably even like sweet things like dessert. Pumpkin pie.
00:00:59
Speaker
Usually if gravy goes over my plate, it goes over everything. I'm not real. I don't discriminate really. When I put gravy onto onto things on my plate, it usually just kind of blends with everything, but I do keep aside the deviled eggs. I am serious about my deviled eggs and the purity of them. So particular Thanksgiving thing for sure for you.
00:01:22
Speaker
What's that, deviled eggs? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Usually it's, uh, I've eaten like eight to 10 before the actual Thanksgiving meal, because the plate gets passed around at the house. And so I snack upon this. It just keeps coming around. It does. It does. And usually it's a contest. Do you find if you mess with the eggs, you get the horns?
00:01:42
Speaker
No, no, no, because everyone else is low key sneaking the snacking of the eggs as well. So I'm not the only culprit. I am not. There are others that I feel like deviled eggs and like mozzarella sticks are kind of one in the same way. If I were to look at you and be like, do you want to eat five hard boiled eggs? You'd be like, absolutely not. Or do you want to eat five, like,
00:02:06
Speaker
giant cheese sticks you'd be like probably not but I'm like if I deep fry them or I mix it with relish do you now want them and you're like I will eat them all thank you all the things if you add mayonnaise to it then I will eat way more of the eggs yeah it makes it go down easier and I will eat a lot of it fat is a flavor carrier I've said it before I can eat a disturbing amount of hard-boiled eggs
00:02:30
Speaker
I like some hard boiled eggs salted. I think I just love salt. So if there's a way salt delivery mechanism. Yeah, pretty much. Do you do you cut them long ways or short ways?
00:02:46
Speaker
What kind of question is that? Oh my gosh. Horizontal. Horizontal one way. What does horizontal mean? Laying on its side. Long ways. Long ways. I had to rethink that. Who does this short way? It's like some barbarian stuff. My family used to do them short ways. Really? That explains a lot. I feel like there would be a lot of wobbling around. What do you do with the top half? Like throwing away? What?
00:03:16
Speaker
Make little, little hats out there. Just the way we did it. I mean, I guess it's because all the molds are designed for the eggs to lay upon their side. Most of the ones that we have. Yeah, you get two equivalent pieces. That's like, oh, they never made it like that far. We ate them all. Yeah. You would just, you would just turn the yolk into the thing and put it in like a piping bag.
00:03:38
Speaker
and then shoot the white and just chase with the little pop of milky mayonnaise mix. We're not even going to get to things like turkey and ham at this rate. We're just not. I guess it's about the size then, right? For me, it is. It's about the stuffing and the homemade mac and cheese, big pounds of that.
00:04:02
Speaker
Just all those things. As someone who pretty much can only eat

Cranberry Sauce and Unique Traditions

00:04:05
Speaker
poultry now, the turkey is just so like every day to me. It's like all I can eat anymore. Every day is trip to fan naps. Every day. What do you think of talking about the cranberry sauce? Shaped like a- Oh yeah, are you- I'm a cranberry man. Oh, good deal. What kind of cranberry sauce are you though?
00:04:28
Speaker
Me? I would say I prefer, well, I mean, this is gonna make me sound bougie, but I prefer like fresh made cranberry, you know, you heat it up in some orange juice and with some orange and some spices and it pops and gels and all does all the things that they do. But I did recently hear about from one of our colleagues and friends, friend of the show, Emily. Emily said her family, one of the things that they do is this
00:04:58
Speaker
I think it's called pistachio salad. Whoa. Also sometimes referred to as, I think, as Watergate salad. I think we've heard of that, yeah. There's a story there. I'm not for sure what it is. Yeah, Watergate. I am not a side dish, or I am not a side. As it creeps into your refrigerator at midnight. Yeah, exactly. Specialites in the fridge. Yes. Yes.
00:05:28
Speaker
It's like this green kind of creamy pistachio pudding and some other things mixed into it It's like a I would call it a semi-sweet, you know, it's not like American dessert sweet, but it's It's not, you know salty or savory either
00:05:44
Speaker
And I think I was trying to clarify what she meant and it's something like along the lines of like ambrosia kind of, if you've ever had that before. But I think a little bit creamier, a little bit floofier, puffier. But yeah, it made me want to like make some this year and try it out with our family. That's been, that was one thing I think when I was debating like intro questions when we started this, I thought, what is your current like,
00:06:08
Speaker
food obsession. Like I don't know who you all get like in modes where you just every day you eat this one thing and then you kind of forget about it and then... Deviled eggs. My right now is instant pistachio pudding. I can't stop. Pistachio pudding. Yeah, instant pistachio pudding because... Sounds like a TikTok thing. It's so good. I mean, you all didn't have like instant pudding
00:06:42
Speaker
Sure. The cup of pudding and we ate it with our fingers. It was a three month ordeal.
00:06:52
Speaker
It took a little while longer. Instant. Well, yeah, I mean, you didn't have fridges in the early 1800s. No, we had our ice boxes with a big chunk of ice in the top. Your granny probably did actually have ice. She did, she did indeed. Now imagining Ray, did you ever watch the show or movie Highlander?
00:07:11
Speaker
Yes, there can be only one where they would like have episodes where the Highlander would be like in radically different periods of time imagining Ray in that type of context. Like he's like like Middle Ages. He's exactly the same as he is now. Like long hair that's like braided and like a powdery wig of some kind. Absolutely. The trick is if you are the only one left in your time period, keep it quiet.
00:07:37
Speaker
Don't go around swinging your sword. Impressive sword collection on the wall there behind you, right? Yeah. Various and sundry antiquities. It's your electric personality. Yeah. Well, what are we here to talk about today?
00:07:55
Speaker
I had only prepared. Yeah, eggs. I'll double eggs. A whole episode on how to grow cucumbers for the relish that goes in your... We could do one on that.

Winter Horticulture Education

00:08:07
Speaker
But that's not this week's episode, which is event and educational program season, specifically within the Cooperative Extension Service. We do educational programs and events and are associated with other outside events all during the year.
00:08:22
Speaker
But particularly more so it seems like in the winter time because as people this specific podcast the people that are on this podcast were sort of plant people and so there's a seasonality to the activities that we involve ourselves with and therefore.
00:08:39
Speaker
the producers that we work with and the homeowners and the individuals tend to be somewhat seasonal and it just seems like that we have a bigger attendance to certain types of event in the winter time so yeah it's the same all of that where times a time where there's lots of programs and lots of things to choose from. November through March is extension and it's also why I think about quitting extension.
00:09:02
Speaker
It's so busy. It's busy in such a different way. It's like summer, you're, I mean, an extension where we're doing stuff and with people at the time.
00:09:16
Speaker
It's just such a different way. Well, we all come inside and the days get shorter instead of being outside all the time doing field diagnostic work. We're learning all the stuff we need for the summer. And it is a great time to improve your skills. I mean, what else are you going to do in the long days of winter? I know there's always something to do depending on your life situation, but lots to choose from as far as educational programs, conferences, and other events in the wintertime.
00:09:42
Speaker
Lots to choose from. Does anybody have a favorite event that you either teach at or go to to improve your own skills? I'm teaching at one and it's like the first one of 2024, which is the Kentucky Fruit and Vegetable Conference and not to be confused. There is also cut flower track. This is the second year for the full cut flower track. I'm very proud of it. So obviously that's what I'm involved with.
00:10:09
Speaker
But I'm trying to get them to- This is the second year coming up in 2024? Yeah, that they've had like an actual track. They've dabbled over the years having one or two classes, but last year was the first full day track and they're doing it was very highly attended. So we're doing it again this year and they have made the mistake of asking me to do a class. So you can't, no, that will be fun. Yeah, they said, did you tell them that they might be worried about it being too good if you present?
00:10:38
Speaker
I mean they're going to have to have me back after this. I don't know if they realize. Do you want it to be perfection? Do you want everyone else to pale in comparison? That's the question you have to ask yourself. This is who I am. Sorry, I will just make this about all the stupid things I said this morning during a meeting that Ray was at.
00:10:59
Speaker
But anyways, if you haven't been to a conference before, if you haven't been to these types of conferences before, it's really, so it's like the big conference title in this case is the Kentucky Fruit and Vegetable Conference. And then within it, there are a series of what they call tracks, which are just groupings that the people who are organizing it receive a bunch of different proposals for presentation types. And so then they have the task of trying to make them into something that makes sense to someone somewhere. And so there's ones that's like,
00:11:28
Speaker
business development track. And then there's the cut flower track, which is a little more intentionally organized. I think there's a farmer's market track. There's a whole wine and grape, short course and track. High tunnels and greenhouses and like tree fruit, tree fruit, small versus like small fruits, like, you know, blueberries and strawberries. And then these things are going on at the same, like a lot of these and you're going on at the same time. And so you got to kind of sit down and strategize.
00:11:55
Speaker
from ten to eleven i wanna be in this room and then from eleven to twelve i wanna be in this room and figure that out to stay in one track you can bounce around you can go from a farmer's market and if you see something on berries strawberry production on plastic you can jump over to that one and mix and match and that's one of the things that i love about the fruit and veggie conferences.
00:12:14
Speaker
Uh, you can pick from these themes. Not only is there individual educational sessions within the tracks, but there's also like keynote speakers and, and I'm assuming that they do this coming year in January, like they always do. And there's opportunities to get like, um,
00:12:29
Speaker
pesticide hours, CUs, general specifics. So if you're a commercial person that needs things like that, I mean, there's just all sorts of reasons to attend this. And it's just not presenters, agents and specialists from the University of Kentucky. It's more than just that. They bring in a lot of outside people as well from all over
00:12:50
Speaker
the place to present specialty topics. So it's awesome. Yeah. They seem to be doing a really good job. And I think this, you know, lately coming from feedback of people who have attended the conference, there's a lot more farmers giving presentations and having panels. Yeah. Then I think they're used to it. They are doing a better job of that. And I love that because I like to hear about
00:13:11
Speaker
their experiences from their perspective and it is awesome. It's kind of mix and match. Like if you want a very specific, I need an expert to tell me how to deal with coddling moth and my plums, you got that. But you can also go and, you know, listen to how people have marketed, you know, certain types of crops that they've done and things along those lines. And it's just, and it's a way to, um, you know, meet new people. I know a lot of farmers, I've met a lot of farmers through that and,
00:13:40
Speaker
You know, I know a lot from the, I was in the cut flower room all last time and you know, everyone was commenting how great it was just to be able to connect. And a lot of people, you know, have heard of each other, but have never met. And so that right there was such a good time. So they got all this information, but they found their community. And I think conference season can be about finding your community as much as it is about learning new skills and new, about new crops and stuff.
00:14:09
Speaker
And it's designed to kind of facilitate those kinds of connections being made with

Conference Networking and Learning

00:14:13
Speaker
like coffee station breakouts. And one of my favorite things about the thing is like a trade show where you can walk around and see different support industries. Yeah. Yeah. Different organizations that support horticulture in Kentucky. Absolutely. So the conference is sort of designed to foster those sort of connections.
00:14:30
Speaker
will be in the extension people petting zoo again this year. You can absolutely come by. I really like the good kibble if you want to throw me a handful of that. There's like no machines. You're so needy. You get what you get. These machines are now accepting Venmo, so you have no more excuses for not having to change. As someone who's put a lot of miles to be at trade shows, it is
00:14:57
Speaker
It's cool because, so one, you can, if you, if you're familiar with earth tools, they typically are there and they're selling things like their hand tools and there's, they have a BCS on site and so you don't have to be shipping to get the hand tools or what other other stuff. And you can talk with them. There's a bunch of other people who are selling different
00:15:15
Speaker
if you haven't figured out a place to get your supplies yet or you're scaling up and trying to figure out maybe where you can get your drip tape. All that kind of stuff. You can talk to people, the real people and they're all like Kentucky businesses or like the Kentucky branch of larger businesses. And then there's also the extension people and the NGO, like a nonprofit people and
00:15:41
Speaker
Governmental package usually there. Yeah, government agency. Yeah. So there's a smattering of everything there. Yeah. And so if you've heard people talk, you know, you heard about funding or you've heard about NRCS programs to support things like a high tunnel or things like maybe a river or stream bank planting or something, and you're like, I am not the go on your, depending on the organization, no direct shade thrown to anybody. I'm not going to go on your God awful website and try to figure this out. I'd like you to help me walk through this.
00:16:10
Speaker
This is a good opportunity to do that and just to make that connection. There's just so many people who are trying, I think, trying to help and trying to work in this space. Visiting the trade show thing, it can be helpful. I think one thing I would say as far as going into the conference stuff,
00:16:31
Speaker
is some people, and this is fine if you do this, but some people kind of have a, I'm gonna let it wash all over me kind of situation, or I'm gonna let it, you know, let it go as it, you know, figure out as it goes, and I'm gonna pick the sessions in the moment and all that. I think there is a real opportunity to be a little bit strategic about what you wanna get out of, you know, the trade, sorry, get out of the conference thing.
00:16:54
Speaker
And just real quick, so we're mentioning, you know, we're based in Kentucky. The Kentucky Fruit and Vegetable Conference is obviously one of those. We're going to talk about a couple others in a bit, but there are similar conferences focused on specialty crops. And if you are one of the special people who are not really into horticulture, but you're into some other aspect of agriculture and you're listening to this podcast because of how cool Alexis
00:17:18
Speaker
has proclaimed herself to be. There's conferences for that stuff too, but we're going to focus on more of the specialty crop side of things. So there's an Indiana Horticulture Conference. There's an Indiana Small Farms Conference, which is different from that. It's a little more diversified, a little bit smaller scale. There's an Illinois, they changed the name this year to like the food and farmer food. Oh, really? It was the specialty crop conference last year.
00:17:45
Speaker
Right. I spoke of that one too. Flowers, everything, local conference, which will be at the, in January 17th. There's a pick Tennessee conference, which is very similar to what we do. There's a West Virginia small farms conference, which is sponsored in part by SARE. And so basically wherever you are, there is a conference and it's probably happening in the months of January or February, typically. And now's the time to take a look and they've posted their agenda. And if they've done a good job in putting the conference together, then you should be compelled to do that.
00:18:15
Speaker
to go and attend and register and all that kind of stuff. But I do think, I understand time is valuable and, you know, not everybody's super excited to go hang out with a bunch of people ever, or maybe still post COVID or whatever, but it can be a really useful thing if you're strategic about it and you kind of see some things on the agenda that look like they might be of interest to you.
00:18:38
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's like kind of our goal here is to, you know, help expose you to what is being offered around the state. And that way, you can get in, you know, hopefully, if you want to do one to an early bird registration, a lot of them have early bird registration through about mid December, sometime, you know, or through the end of December, depending on which one it is.
00:18:57
Speaker
So get it in cheap but also let you know about all the ones because there's nothing worse when you go to a conference and someone is like oh you should have come to this and you had no idea without there so hopefully you can look at all of these and see which one will benefit you more so that you're not wasting precious time or money because some of them cost although there are a lot that have scholarships so definitely look into that most of the websites of the
00:19:22
Speaker
conference we're gonna talk about. It's very obvious where you can go find a scholarship or you can do like a one-day. I know sometimes for some conferences, Oak is one, the Organic Association of Kentucky we're gonna talk about here shortly and they have some tracks that are more organic livestock based and so if you're like
00:19:43
Speaker
solidly a planned person, you may be able to get away with like a one day registration or something like that if that fits you better. So just be open to it. And there's a lot going on. And they, I think the, at least the conferences that we know about and work with are very trying to get people out there, however they can. So if that means that, you know, they need to put some scholarships out there, they're happy to do that so that you get that good information.
00:20:07
Speaker
I think most of these conferences, don't they offer partial registration? A lot of these are two and three day conferences or more. Yeah, that's what I was saying, like one day registration. Yeah. Do you guys have the info in front of you? Seems like we started out by talking about the Kentucky Fruit and Vegetable
00:20:23
Speaker
conference, which is the biggest conference of its top in Kentucky. That is, is that January two and four conferences the second, but conferences third and fourth, um, the early registration in December 15th, that jumped from $50 to 75.
00:20:40
Speaker
So that's a big cost savings if you can go ahead and just do a keyword search for 2024 Kentucky Fruit and Vegetable Conference. And what that's probably going to do is lead you to the Kentucky Horticulture Council website. I believe is where the registration is housed. That is the actual site. That is correct. So if you land on that site, you are at the right place to register. And the date again, what was that January?
00:21:04
Speaker
Two for pre-conference, the conference itself is January 3rd and 4th, and that's in Bowling Green. Bowling Green, forget the name of the conference center. The main conference center there in Bowling Green, but all of that information will be in the registration.
00:21:22
Speaker
Yeah. Sloan Convention Center. Sloan Convention Center. Thank you. And that's on Central Time Zone, so don't forget that. Correct. Yeah. Please make a note of that. That could affect your travel times. Yeah. Well, and hopefully that just means you'll get there an hour early. Yes. If you're like us in Eastern Time Zone. If you're coming from Eastern Time Zone, yes. It's going to work in your favor.
00:21:42
Speaker
And that is open. Like if you're, we had last year, I know in our track, there were some people who are right over the Tennessee border, you know, like 10 miles into Tennessee. And so Bowling Green is where they do their shopping at and, and crossover state line. So you don't have to be, you know, from Kentucky by any means. I feel like that's obvious, but just, just to be clear, if you're close by or you're in town and something really cool is happening, feel free to jump in and, and, and join on that. So.
00:22:09
Speaker
Well, Josh, just real quick, so as of now, if you're interested in this or you want to get a flavor for it, as of now, the cut flower sessions from last year are on the CCD YouTube page. Is that right?
00:22:23
Speaker
That is correct, yes. So if you want, Josh came, he and I cobbled together some AV equipment from stuff that I had here and a couple other places and he did a great job of recording and putting together videos of the sessions from last year's fruit and vegetable conference from the cut flower session, had some real
00:22:45
Speaker
big shot names and talented people speak. Shut up Melanie Stock. Dr. Stock is amazing. If you're listening, I love you so much. Dr. Stock, Dr. Dahlia, Dr. I don't know, Dr. I know, it's fortunate that that's her last name. Dr. Zinnia. If you, real quick, Alexis, if you had to change your last name to a one flower, what would it be? That's not real quick. Edible garlic. Too late.
00:23:14
Speaker
Is there any other kind? Your name's now Alexis Dandelion. I was thinking like Alexis Allium has like a kind of a nice ring to it. Alexis Allium. Alexis Allium. What are you, the Disney movie host? What is it? What? It's not like a fungal disease. Oh, God. I have got Alexis Allium. There's a cream to that. I want to invade your thoughts. Mine's mushroom. I want you to think about plants all the time. Ray or somebody, save us, get us back on.
00:23:45
Speaker
What were we talking about? Well, we've talked a lot about the Kentucky fruit and vegetable conference. What's up? What's a some other conferences?

Industry-Specific Conferences

00:23:51
Speaker
I know there's some other big ones coming up. Once again, January, February is a, you know, particularly big months for a lot of these things. I know it's been a while since I've been to this one, but I am still very much aware of it. It's a group outside of extension, but they do have extension representatives on their board that helps out with this conference, but it's, uh,
00:24:11
Speaker
the Kentucky Nursery Landscape Association Green Industry Winter Conference, and that's January 31st through February the 1st at the Marriott Louisville East. And that is coming up and it's just as the title implies, it's a lot more of a heavy focus on the landscape and nursery industry. So it's just a lot of what we just said about
00:24:38
Speaker
The fruit vegetable conference can be applied to this. There's keynote speakers. A lot of times there's breakouts. There's equipment vendors. There's, you know, all of those things that you would expect from a big conference. This year is back to basics. Is that the theme this year? Nice. I like it. I like it, but it's a, it's.
00:24:59
Speaker
A conference that also goes on and it's a sort of a state level conference here in Kentucky. Yeah, this conference would be great. I think for people who maybe are looking into growing plants and selling them, you know, growing ornamental plants is something you're really into.
00:25:15
Speaker
Arboress you find a lot of arboress at this and so you're going to go into that trade or you're growing trees or something like that management courses that really anybody in an ornamental in a horticulture business trade but i think it's definitely aimed at that where fruit vegetables of course more.
00:25:36
Speaker
This is more about commercial landscaping or landscape management, all of those associated issues. There are awards ceremonies too, I think. They have some awards that they give out. If we didn't mention the industry is used there. Yeah. Go ahead. No, that's okay. The green industry is a huge part of.
00:25:54
Speaker
the majority of the horticultural economy in Kentucky is the green industry. It's an important thing. There's a lot of bigger players and the technical assistance is a little different, so it's not necessarily as much of a focus for some parts of extension, but yeah, it's a huge part of what we do.
00:26:12
Speaker
I haven't looked at the agenda really closely this year, but besides the speakers and workshops, in the past they've even had like demonstrations and pre-tours. They do, I'm assuming they may have some related events like that. So if you've never been to that, it's a good one if you kind of work in the associated field of nursery and landscape, whether or not you own a business, it would be worth your time to check that out in Louisville at the end of January, beginning of February.
00:26:42
Speaker
I've been to that many times and my favorite kind of tracks they put on frequently. It might not be this year, but it's more often than not, they have it. They have someone come from Kentucky State Police and sort of do an evaluation and talk about the correct and incorrect ways to hook up trailers and tie things down. Commercial vehicles, because they definitely talk about how when you have that commercial vehicle license, you are much more likely to be
00:27:12
Speaker
stopped and to make sure that everything you're doing is correct because they tow so much weight, et cetera, but it's super informative. I mean, a lot of great stuff comes out of that conference. I could have used some of that feedback when we transported our
00:27:27
Speaker
sectional couch from Costco in our tiny truck. Annie was white knuckling at the hallway and she wasn't even driving. I mean, that's the way you got it. You know, you should have attended the KNLA conference. That's the store, the little acronym for that. But yeah, should have attended, Brett. One of the key things with tie downs is if it's not a knot, tie a lot. Right? Oh, okay.
00:27:52
Speaker
If it's a bow, it's going to go. I mean, is that the other part of that? If it's a fray and start to pray in? Yeah. Well, I can't stop now. I mean, there's no stopping to this. No stopping. Just put flags all over it. You're fine. It'll be fine. If they hit you, if you've got a flag on it, it's their fault, right? That's how that works. That's right. So the other one that is
00:28:21
Speaker
really great and I know I think all of us have been to it is the organic association of Kentucky Oak as we call it has a conference it is January 25th through the 27th and the 25th is kind of
00:28:38
Speaker
I don't think they necessarily call them pre-conference, but they're like long sessions. There's a bunch of these different tracks, so to speak, and they're a whole morning session on one thing, so you get to deep dive. If you really want to know about how to rotate your cows with your organic soybean or whatever, they have a whole big morning or an afternoon. The same thing with
00:29:01
Speaker
vegetable crops and they've done flower-focused stuff, cover crops, all kinds of things. They do a couple of different deep dives on that first day and then the 26th and the 27th are more of that traditional conference where they have a couple of different tracks and you get to go in. This one is going to have more, it's of course all organic based, but there's a little bit more variety I think because you're
00:29:26
Speaker
they've had mushrooms growing and then they've also had, you know, they have goats and things along those lines, but then they have the traditional.
00:29:34
Speaker
vegetables and what horticulture crops that we think of. And I think that I really like that conference even as a non-organic grower because it's all based on good horticulture practices. So you're learning about good beneficial insects, you're learning about all these IPM strategies. And if you don't go organic, that's fine. Everything you learn there, in my opinion, is valuable towards what you're doing because none of us are trying to spray.
00:30:02
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pesticides, none of us are trying to do that, or at least most of us because it costs us money, right to do that in some way. So if we can figure out ways to manage without having to spray, I think is the ultimate goal. So I don't know, I feel like I had to say that because a lot of people are like, well, I'm not organic, so it doesn't work for me. And but it's not, it's all about best growing techniques. And it just happens that people who are certified, that's kind of their only option. And so yeah, I would say I would say a lot of the folks
00:30:30
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a good number of people who attend the Oak Conference are not certified organic. But it is, and I think in general, obviously as an organization, they have an interest in promoting people converting to certified organic. But I think in their heart of hearts, one of the big reasons that they advocate for that is that for them, they see the opportunity in both the marketplace and in some of the sustainability concerns associated with organic.
00:30:56
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for our small producers to have better lives, to make more money, to, you know, reduce the amount they're spraying, to maybe enhance their health or whatever. So like, I think that's, there's another conference that exists outside the, you know, traditional extension conference type that is really, really good. It's in, it's in Ohio. The ones that I've been to have been really, really good.
00:31:19
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It's called OFA, O-E-F-F-A, which is the Ohio Ecological Food and Farming Association. And they are, it's in a similar vein, I would say it includes things like Certified Naturally Grown and all that kind of stuff, which is also included at Oak. And they have a really great conference and that's in February 15th through 17th of 24. And so I would think, I think, I'm not trying to flex on you all, but I think of this group
00:31:49
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I have been, at least in recent years, I've been to almost all of the conferences in all the surrounding states because I used to do trade shows at all of them and so I think relatively
00:31:59
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This is one that's really cool and it's really accessible and it feels to me like one of them where even like for Kentucky growers to attend, there might be some value as opposed to some of the other ones are much more state specific. Like I don't think anybody's driving down from Northern Indiana to go to the Kentucky Fruit and Vegetable Conference, for instance, and vice versa. Nobody's going from Owensboro up to
00:32:22
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the Indiana Hort Congress. But OFA is a little bit more of like a regional interest in ecological practices and that kind of stuff. It's a nice conference in the similar vein where it attracts all types of growers who are just interested in that. Enhancing the sustainability, reducing the impact, reducing the usage of chemicals, reducing stress on themselves, stress on the world, which is cool.
00:32:53
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Would you say O-E-F-F-A? Yeah, OFA. OK. I'm going to look that up. That sounds cool. Before I forget, another one in Kentucky that's oftentimes confused with K and LA that we just talked about, Kentucky. Boy, I'm having trouble with making my speech today. The Kentucky Nursery Landscape Association. But this one's a bit different. It's an extension.
00:33:18
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sponsored event, the Kentucky Turf and Landscape Management Short Course, that is coming up February 20th through the 22nd at the Hardin County Extension Office. And it has a very similar kind of
00:33:34
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type of presentations as K and LA, but they work with lawns, golf courses, sports fields, anything that's turf and it's very focused. They kind of couch that in a pure turf kind of topic arena in a landscape kind of function. So it's a very focused
00:33:54
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program. If you've never checked that out and you work in the turf biz, kind of look it up online. But that's the Kentucky Turf and Landscape Management Short Course coming up in February right here in Kentucky in Elizabethtown at the Hardin County Extension Office. That one's no joke too. And you can take your, if you're wanting to get a pesticide license, you can take your exams during one of those days and
00:34:20
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There, I mean, you know, there's no waste of time there. Like they, they get stuff done and they get people knowing what they, you know, want to know and what they're there for. Not that any conference is a waste of time, but I feel like the landscape guys are just like, you can barely get them there. So if you get them there, they're.
00:34:38
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They really want to know stuff and they really try and target exactly what they need for that year. If you're interested in turf research, it's the best because they'll have a lot of university specialists, both in Kentucky, but also outside of Kentucky, not only that.
00:34:54
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industry people that do turf research and related research. So it's a mixture of presenters from industry and extension universities, and it's just a really cool mix. So if you're interested in the topic, check it out. It's a good one. And especially if you're needing hours or needing to take the test or you have crew members that are needing to take their commercial pesticide test, it's a good time to do that.
00:35:15
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We didn't mention where Oak was, I just realized. Frankfort at the, uh, uh, KSU. What was the date on Oak again, the organic program? 25th to 27th. Is that right? Pre-confident starts the 25th and it's the 26th, 27th. That's a January. Yeah. You can also get some tools there. Usually earth tools and places like that are there. Um, I got a really nice hoe there last year. So big fan, big fan of this.
00:35:45
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Another one right around the same time as the one you just mentioned, Ray is the, well, it's less of a conference and more of a trade show, but the national farm machinery show, this is definitely cheap. It's free admission, uh, 12 bucks to park and in Louisville.
00:36:00
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It's more of a date. I would take somebody on a date there. I enjoy that event. Well, cause it's what the 14th through 17th or something like that. Is that what you just said? And so, you know, Valentine's day. Hello date night. That is not a coincidence. No, no, it's a sweetheart opportunity.
00:36:16
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I know some farmers who like that is their yearly date with their significant other. It's a huge event. It's the biggest of its kind, not only in Kentucky, but Josh, I guess the entire nation, isn't it? It's huge. Yeah. Nothing gets the juices flowing like, uh, like the world, the largest combine you've ever seen. Yeah. It's crazy. You can see the largest combine or the tiniest little walk behind like ground breaking equipment. It's all there. Every bit of it.
00:36:45
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along oddly enough along with luck a lot of hot tubs strangely you'll see a lot of farm equipment then you'll see the hot tub section i'm like how did that sneak in there but it is a great event overall because and it takes forever to walk around it because the event is just huge yeah there's a lot to see at that event we just
00:37:06
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We missed, we didn't plug it here, but I saw a lot of you all out recently at, I spoke at the Kentucky State Small Farms and Minority Farmers Conference in November. They have that every November. I would say it in some ways marks the beginning of conference season, though it's way earlier than almost all the other ones, but it's nice because it's at a different time of year. So if you're conferenced out in January, February, well, this is well before the holiday.
00:37:34
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That was pretty cool. It was out at that same research forum that Oak is going to be at there in Frankfurt. A couple other ones that I would mention as far as the bigger conference, and maybe I'll make a call to you all if you have any other bigger conferences before I steer us in a slightly different direction, but a couple of the ones I would mention would be Indiana has a small farm conference. I mentioned it earlier already.
00:37:56
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It's, it's, they have two conferences. So they have a horticulture Congress, which is a little bit more, uh, Indiana has, you know, some very large horticulture operations, you know, the 3000 plus acre to make, uh, pumpkins and, uh, watermelon and all that kind of stuff. And so that that's, I think the small farm conference is kind of a little bit of a contrast to that. And that that's February 9th or February 29th through March 1st of 2024 coming up. And.
00:38:26
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I was actually at the Indiana Small Farms Conference when COVID popped off, and it was in Danville, Kentucky, and guess where the first case in our region of confirmed COVID was? Oh, man. Danville, Indiana. The other one. I stopped by to see my
00:38:49
Speaker
parents who are, you know, not spring chickens on the way home. And I was like, oh no. I went from, you know, patient, maybe not patient zero, but patient three. And I was like, oh, that woman was coughing all over me in my booth. Oh no. I think it was just a regular, regular cold or just a regular coughing. I remember that. It was a standard cough.
00:39:14
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But then there's also a West Virginia small farms conference, which is kind of cool. If you're in the eastern part of Kentucky or if you're in West Virginia, they do some cool sessions that relate, just relate to small farms. They've been doing it for a number of years. It's partially sponsored through the Sarah program, which is why I work with the Sarah program in Kentucky. But I've been there a couple of times. I think it has traditionally been in Charleston.
00:39:38
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Or at least that's where I was when I went to it as well. I went one year and there was a fascinating session on like make setting up like maple syrup operations. Yeah. They also do this really cool thing that they call it their winter blues farmers market. And it's like I think it's like I don't know if it's a pre conference thing or if it's just independent of no, it's the last day. Sorry of the conference. And they do this indoor market.
00:40:06
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And it's like with working with their department of ag and it's showing like what stuff that can be produced in West Virginia in the off season or products that are available in the off season. But it also is a little bit of a way to like do some like
00:40:24
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product display demonstration. And I think they used to at least have a competition for who's, like farmer's market style display looked the best. And I was wanting to do that for us. And it just never, here in Kentucky, and it never quite, I could never quite could get traction
00:40:45
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But it's a fun, different kind of conference. And if maybe you've been to Kentucky a number of times and you don't see anything there, take a look at some other states. It's not that far away. We don't live in parts of the Midwest where it's like a 10 hour drive to get to another state. Charleston isn't that far. And I say that having done it. So that's another one I would mention. There's also in February, there is the,
00:41:15
Speaker
the Eastern Kentucky Farmers Conference, which is, I'll be booth-ing at, I just put my registration in. And the registration for that conference is now open as well. It's gonna be, I believe it's in Morehead. Yes, I think I read that.
00:41:36
Speaker
this year. And so that's when if you're in the eastern part of the state or you want to kind of connect to some of the organizations in a small, a little bit smaller, more approachable context than some of the bigger conferences, that's a good opportunity. I always have a good time there. It's a lot of my farm and technical assistance provider friends end up there and kind of hang out. And they were doing it at small, at state parks in the past.
00:42:03
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They did it last year at Pine Mountain State Park. And man, that was pretty cool because you could go out after lunch and take a walk in some of the trails and hang out. But darn it, they were too good at their jobs and they've got too many people coming. And so now they're going to have to go to a slightly bigger venue, which is pretty darn cool. But yeah, the registration for that is open now. And
00:42:28
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I would, you would think I would know that I would know the dates like the back of my hand, considering I'm going to be there, but it's in, it's in late February every year. But so anybody else have any other like conference conferences? Cause there's a whole, there's a second wrinkle to this that I want to bring up.
00:42:46
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I was looking for the Kentucky Maple School, but that one has already passed. In case you didn't know, if you've ever been in Josh brought up maple syrup, we have a pretty big maple syrup thing through the Department of Forestry and Natural Resources at UK, and they do a Kentucky Maple School each year, but it looks like usually that's in November. So I'm sorry, we missed that window for you, but keep an eye out on it.
00:43:15
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and it can be cool if that's something you're interested in. They do it over at the research station over there. I've never been, but I know some people who have been and said it was really top-notch and they've done some great things.
00:43:30
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people who don't want to log or are looking for other opportunities. So that's pretty cool. If you're interested in maple syrup in general, there is a Kentucky maple syrup association where you can join and be a part of. They have a Facebook page and a friend of the show, David Walker out in Pike County.
00:43:52
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who does a really cool diversified farm operation. We're going to be featuring him on a Producer Voices episode through the Center for Crop Diversification's YouTube page, talking about, what was his about? He has so many different things he could talk about. I'm trying to, I think it was, it wasn't on farm retail. It might've been like value added or something like that, but he does apple butter, but he also, they also usually have a,
00:44:17
Speaker
something related to maple syrup at their farm that people can come out and see and he has he has these really cool like old copper kettle. He has one old and one new based on old specs copper kettles that he makes apple butter in and like that's was like a very traditional old school way of making apple butter and it's yeah so that's another that maple syrup
00:44:42
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association does different sorts of events kind of along the lines of what Alexis was just talking about. Um, yeah, good, good shout Alexis. I was just, I was like maple syrup. Oh yeah. Yeah. There's not too many of those associated activities. That one's pretty targeted also. And it's a cool one. I mean, it, it sounds really cool and it's very appropriate for that region, but it's not only that region, but anywhere is in Kentucky or surrounding areas. As long as you can get to that conference, it's a unique conference. It's pretty cool.
00:45:11
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Well, and Ray mentioned earlier, but the Center for Crop Diversification does have a newsletter that we put out and I mentioned it so that you were subscribed. No, I mentioned it because there's a series of events or there's always an events section that we put in there that features things that are coming up. And I think we've covered a lot of the ones that were in my mind.
00:45:32
Speaker
And that probably would be in there, but there's always a few that we miss that we have bookmarked and put down. So if you want to subscribe there, we do that throughout the whole year when the events are coming up, when we hear about new webinars or new.
00:45:44
Speaker
field days or whatever, Oak does a number of field days throughout the year on farms and at different, you know, locations. And so that's, that's organic association of Kentucky does those things. Um, and we put those in there, um, et cetera. But so there is the, the main conference season and, you know, in some ways, especially back in like back in 2016 or 20, see 2017, I think between,
00:46:12
Speaker
January and March, there was one weekend that I was at home for the whole weekend because I was at these conferences doing tabling. I can't do that anymore. I was just looking in my webcam at my gray beard and at least a few of those are from conferences. But there's a whole other aspect of
00:46:37
Speaker
this season, which we mentioned it before, but the extension programming component, which in a way, it's like a little conference session or a little conference presentation presented on its own at an extension office or at the research farms or something like that. And so I think this is, to me, this is the time of year, it's a little bit before it starts getting really heavily promoted, but in January, February, you'll be looking for that promotion
00:47:02
Speaker
material. But Alexis, you were saying as far as if you're interested, you were kind of saying that this is a good time for having a conversation. Yeah, I mean, if you're in Kentucky, you have an extension office in the county you're in. And so let them know we are, we plan throughout the year, but we have kind of two, most of us have two major planning periods. And one is, you know, kind of November, December, where we're trying to think about what we're going to offer next year. And the other one is usually around June, July. That's just the way that like our
00:47:32
Speaker
year's work. I don't know, Ray, maybe you're different, but that's kind of all the agents. I know those are there too. Those are big times for a planning programs and then carrying programs

Local Programming and Planning

00:47:41
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out. Yeah. Especially if you have programs like for planting things or doing things, cause there's a certain timeliness to those programs. Seasonality. But I want to know what my people want. And like I actively try and throughout the year, he listened to people, right? That's our job and extension is to listen to what people need.
00:48:00
Speaker
whether you're Josh and Brad on campus or in the counties like Ray and I are. So if you have an idea for something, let us know because if you said it, probably somebody else has already said it to us too. And then we know there's more than just, you know, one person that might be interested and we can plan that for next year. Cause like, sometimes it's just, you just kind of hit a wall sometimes with programming and you know, you may, I just, I've only got one more big program for the year coming up that was planned
00:48:28
Speaker
essentially a year ago. And now I'm kind of like, okay, what am I going to do? And, you know, it's really valuable to us to hear what you all have to say. So don't be afraid to kind of reach out and tell us, you know, do you want it on a webinar? Would you rather have just a video that you can go back to? Do you want in-person classes? What does that look like so that we can get that information to you? Because that's our job is to figure out how to get it out there to you.
00:48:54
Speaker
And I want to echo that as well as far as like statewide sort of campus programming related to horticulture. January is sort of a month when, I mean, throughout the year I am trying to and other people kind of funded through the Kentucky Hort Council and Ag Development Board are looking for ideas, but January is kind of the peak season for trying to find or develop programming that's going to be delivered throughout the year. So.
00:49:23
Speaker
definitely reach out to your agent, but if you yourself are an ag service provider or a grower group, or maybe even just an individual, you can also reach out to us on campus. It's also, that turning of the year is also a time where some of the bigger and more periodic resources, things like our average price report publications or things like, I remember the high tunnel planting date calendar as an example, or even the website overhaul when we had done it originally.
00:49:54
Speaker
we tend to target that going into January, we're going to have some new cool stuff to share and put out there. What that means for anybody out there in the world is that there probably are some new publications for the 2024 growing season that will be coming out in that window of time. What, as far as what kinds of programming, you know, if someone's not really familiar with extension or they haven't really been to any of these things before,
00:50:22
Speaker
What kinds of things do you all typically do classes on?
00:50:28
Speaker
We cover a wide range of topics. Yeah. So I've done, like we just finished up a beginner beekeeping series. So of course, you know, Ray and I are horticulture, but if you had something that's more agriculture based or livestock, or even if you're wanting something you want to know about food preservation or, you know, you need something for your kids, extension offers it all. So, you know, FCS, they say that they're from,
00:50:57
Speaker
from birth to death, like that's their saying in plant world where it's like, yeah, I know they're like the mafia. So there is no way out FCS is in a body bag. There's really nothing extension doesn't cover in some form or fashion. Now it might be something that your office has not offered before, but it doesn't mean that they can't offer it and can probably find you an expert to offer it if they, if they don't know personally, but in the horticulture world,
00:51:27
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I mean, I'm sure there are classes that I have, I can't think of a class that I wouldn't be willing to offer. Like, if you want to know about it, and there's some people, people in general who want to know about it, we'll do a class, we'll do a workshop, we'll do an arm on farm day, field day, if that's what you know, the people in my
00:51:45
Speaker
And that's both for consumer classes, like a home tomato class, or we may do oftentimes do commercial classes. So we cover both. A lot of people have approached me and said, well, it's not really a commercial class, but I have an idea. Well, that's fine because we do classes across both realms, both consumer and commercial. So it doesn't really matter on that end of things. We kind of serve both audiences and horticulture and agriculture. I know they do the same thing.
00:52:15
Speaker
The line between commercial and home is like, it's not real. Like, I mean, there are differences, but it's a spectrum, right?
00:52:26
Speaker
Yeah, the delineation is sort of a sliding scale. Yeah. And I think sometimes people think that they're not at a scale that extension can talk with them or whatever. And that's not really- On tomato, that's fine. We can cover that. Oh yeah. I've got a guy who calls me, bless his heart. He will call me about the 10 radish plants that he's had and talk to me to me for 40 minutes. And that's my job. He always apologizes and I'm like,
00:52:50
Speaker
Bob, it's my job. That's what I do. And I love helping the people who are growing 10 acres of vegetables or strawberries or something like that. If you pay taxes in the state of Kentucky, we will help you. And we will probably help you even if you don't pay taxes. Yeah, if you're cool. Willie Nelson style.
00:53:19
Speaker
Well, so I end up as a campus person, I end up going out to offices and to other groups to give talks or to do workshops and things. And yes, the content is cool, but exactly to what you all are saying, and we said this about the conference stuff as well, and I think
00:53:39
Speaker
given that we are talking about the culture of horticulture here, I think one of the most beneficial things about doing this for me has just been those human connections and relationships. And sometimes people call it networking, and I don't think networking is inherently a bad word, but I think a handful of annoying people on LinkedIn have turned it into an annoying word. But really, to me, it's that relationship building thing where it's like
00:54:03
Speaker
you become aware of what people need, or you become aware of what's out there and being offered, or you become aware that, oh wow, those feelings and thoughts and reactions I was having to trying to be a producer or trying to be a gardener, other people feel that way too. And that's something that, or they have those same experiences.
00:54:21
Speaker
That is a really cool part of how, in Kentucky, how small things are. It's not a big state. Most of the farms are not very big. And in the horticulture world, it's not a huge industry with a whole ton of people. And so you can really get to know people and see them. And that is an aspect of the conference season as taxing and tiring as it can be that I really do enjoy and appreciate. And to Josh's point,
00:54:50
Speaker
much as we're putting out and we're giving talks and where we have publications, during that time we really have our ears open wide, even wider than usual, to hear what people are having trouble with or what people are interested in or what they have not gotten support on. And so that I'm looking forward to doing that some more. You know, COVID was weird and there was a lot of resistance and I think
00:55:13
Speaker
or not resistance hesitance to get back into these large group environments. And I think that I had that hesitance myself, but there is something kind of cool about spending time with people. I don't think it's a solution for everything. I don't think that a bad talk delivered in person is any better than a bad talk delivered over Zoom. But I think there's, yeah, I don't know. I'm actually, I'm pretty optimistic I think about this next little period and just being able to see people thus far this year.
00:55:44
Speaker
What do you all like most about it? I just like working with people, working with groups and getting people of a like mindset around a theme and just fleshing things out and getting that two-way exchange going. Yeah, we may have some things to say as agents, but I love hearing from groups.
00:56:01
Speaker
and what's going on, both the state and county level. I really enjoy that, but I just kind of still love people overall. You know, I was working with folks for the most part. Ray just wants the tea. He wants to know all the gossip. I do. You have to be with the people to hear from the people. You got to go to the source. You got to go to the source, your ear on the whatever, the pavement or grind. I don't know. Somewhere. Put your ear somewhere. But that's what I enjoy about it is the people aspect of it.
00:56:30
Speaker
Yeah, I have to echo that. And I mean, COVID definitely was a weird time. But there's something special about that this time of the year where it starts to get cold. And it's one of the times you can get those people who
00:56:43
Speaker
are always on the farm to actually leave. And then, you know, I remember every year, it's like you're reminded of these people who you have so much in common with, but they are geographically distanced from you. And they're also very busy. So you never get to see each other. Well, this is the time you get to see them and catch up and all that, that kind of like, I mean, I have historically used the word fellowship because it kind of feels more that way than the networking or whatever, but just catching up.
00:57:12
Speaker
That's a beta mindset, Josh. I know. I got to look at myself. I got to look in the mirror. I've accepted who I am. Good for you. Good for you.

Embracing Conference Season

00:57:28
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Well, cool. I hope that if you weren't aware of conferences before that exist around here that might give you some opportunities, you might think about it.
00:57:39
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And if you're, you know, just if you're a home gardener or you're just dipping your toe into this type of stuff, it might be that a full on conference isn't for you, but the local, you know, how to take better care of your house plants or the taking care of your tomato plants this year or an introduction to integrated pest management is a really useful course that might be available from your local extension office. Of course, soil testing is always something that you can do with that.
00:58:08
Speaker
to prepare and interact with those offices and while you're in there, ask them about their classes that are coming up or follow them on social media, Facebook. You can go on their website and see what they have coming up or just give them a call and see. But I hope that as we move into this cold season and you're taking time to rest and take care of yourself and just hide in the darkness, it's mostly been what I've been doing so far.
00:58:37
Speaker
Use it a little bit as an opportunity to reflect, but also think about maybe learning something new or taking it as an opportunity to expand your mind about something, whether that be through a conference or through some sort of online training or just reading a new book about something new. I think it's a really good time to prepare and sow those seeds for growth heading into the next year.
00:58:59
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really in a pretty Zen mindset about stuff and really cherishing a lot of relationships right now, so it was good timing for me to talk about this.
00:59:09
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Go meet your tribe. Go build your tribe out there. If you are going, and I've been that person who goes to a conference and literally does not know a single soul there, and it can be kind of intimidating, walk up to a speaker or someone who has on some official gear and just be like, hey, I'm so-and-so. I'm located here in the state, and this is what I'm trying to do.
00:59:32
Speaker
they probably will hook you up with someone standing right there in that room and be like, oh, you should meet so and so. And you can really get to meet your tribe. And that can be a little bit intimidating if you're a little bit more introverted and you know, you've just gotten a lot of that stuff. But
00:59:46
Speaker
I know it's weird to be the person you don't know and you see everybody talking to each other, but those people are there. They've been where you are. Go up and talk to them. They would love to talk to you, most of them, unless it's, you know, me. I'm just kidding. I would love to talk to you, but go up and talk to people and find your tribe. Sometimes that happens at conferences and that can be really valuable.
01:00:10
Speaker
And if you come to one of the conferences that we mentioned, and we are there, come up and say that you listen to the podcast. It will make us feel like celebrities. Oh my gosh. It will give us opportunities to flex on other people around us. Ask Brett for his autograph. Give that to me, I need it. It'll be great. Maybe Josh too. Rub a bald boy.
01:00:26
Speaker
I have been bringing signed headshots to every conference for the last eight years. And this might be my first opportunity to distribute. And he's coming up with a new album called Shiny Flesh. So, yeah, there's a release of the debut album.
01:00:41
Speaker
It's good times, folks. Conference season has more than one benefit. Yeah, that's true. We usually go out and get drinks afterwards, so there's that benefit of conference season. If it's overnight, we get to go out and have- The meeting after the meeting, yeah. The meeting after the meeting, yeah. So go out and do that with some people.
01:00:57
Speaker
build some relationships. Yeah. It's good times, folks. Good times. Well, I have kind of the usual out take if, if that's, that's how everybody good, everybody feel confident. Uh, usually, you know, the usual, please feel free to send us a message. Uh, you can do that on Instagram, hort culture.
01:01:14
Speaker
pod. I check those direct messages just to see and try and, you know, post stuff on there that might be important. Just little updates. Hey, this is what's come out lately. But if there's something else that you would love for us to talk about, feel free to message us there. You can also shoot us an email hortculturepodcast.l.uky.edu. I believe we
01:01:35
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We have that in the show notes, right? We do. Yeah. It's right there in the show notes. So you're driving. You can't write that down. So you can click it later when you're not driving. So shoot us a message. What do you want to know? That's where we're all kind of in planning mode. We have a bunch of ideas. But it can be really hard to pick one because we're all excited about several things. So help us narrow that down. Help us help you. That would be great. Come up and see us. I'm excited. I hope. I'm like, listen.
01:02:05
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If I get one person in all these conferences I'm about to go to say that they listen to the pod and like I don't know them, I might squeal. There will be an honorable squeal throughout the universe if that happens to me. I don't even care if I know them. I don't even care if it's my own mother.
01:02:20
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It's going to be me. I'm going to come up and be like, oh my god, Brett, I listen to the podcast. Oh, wow. Yes, another fan who has listened to my podcast. That would be fabulous. Please, no photography. Please, no. Anybody have a camera? Please, no.
01:02:37
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We have a lot of fun doing this. So we hope that you enjoy this. And we hope that as we grow this podcast, you will continue to grow with us. And we will see here. Listen, have fun with enjoy you next week. Happy Thanksgiving or normal Thursday. If it's not happy day of stuffing is what I'm gonna say. Happy loose pants day or tight pants day maybe.
01:03:06
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Happy gravy. Stretchy pants day. This is taking a different turn. Thanks for being here with us. Thank you all.