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Stay Sparked #51 "Integration"
8 Plays1 year ago
After the insights from peak experiences, the real work begins. How can we make sure that our deep work results in lasting change?
HOSTS
BETSY FINKLEHOO is a healer of massage therapy, CranioSacral and Dharma Coaching. She is an 8 year burner and has spent the last several years seeped in the personal development world, cultivating her passion for transformation and growth. Her recent project, The Power Affirmation Journal and virtual group empowers women to cultivate self awareness and healthy habits so they can live in greater freedom, mind body and spirit.
http://poweraffirmation.com/
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HALCYON is full-time Love Ambassador. He is the founder of Hug Nation YouTube channel and daily zoom gratitude circles. He is co-founder of the Pink Heart Burning Man camp and the 1st Saturdays project for people experiencing homelessness. In his free time he coaches individuals on how to live joyfully and authentically. His other podcast is "Hard on the 80's."
http://JohnStyn.com
JANUS REDMOON is a 10-time Burner, and has spent the last several years as an advocate for psychedelic medicine research and treatment. He is the founder and CEO of NuWorld Nutritionals, a nutritional supplement company providing mushroom-based, all-natural products to improve and maintain health for both body and mind. (Use code "SPARKED" for 10% off)
http://www.nuworldnutritionals.com
MASSIVE Thank you to Dub Sutra for their beautiful opening music. Check out their incredible music catalogue online.
https://dubsutra.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Focus
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Welcome to Stay Sparked.
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We are three longtime friends here to share inspiration with you, aim to light you up.
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I'm Betsy.
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I'm Halcyon.
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And I'm Giannis.
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On today's episode, we discuss integration.
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How the work comes after you get the insights.
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And we talk about our own personal practices and integrating transformation.
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Enjoy the episode.
Gratitude Practices
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Welcome to Stay Sparked.
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And we like to start our broadcast with a little bit of gratitude.
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I'm going to start.
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I am so grateful for my body right now.
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I am feeling pain-free in this moment.
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And I've had a rough couple months with a pinched nerve and back and arm pain and lots of dark moments and really got a lot of insight about what
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uh, the, the effect of pain on the mind and relationships and everything.
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And so I'm, I, as I'm in this moment feeling good, I'm so grateful for that.
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So grateful for all the healers and doctors that have been helping me and my team and my partner, Lisa, and just, just, just really adjusting my baseline so that, that feeling just normal is such a gift.
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Betsy, what are you grateful for today?
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Well, I'm going to draft off that actually, because my gratitude is for my movement practice and for feeling good also.
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But I got up this morning and got my body moving, did a yoga flow and danced and just stretched and unwound my body.
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And I'm so grateful to have that commitment to movement and remembering how important it is to be able to let the
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fluids move in my joints and in my bodies and to strengthen my muscles and to remember that my body is connected to my thoughts and my state.
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And so I feel really grateful to have the embodiment practice in there as a habit.
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awesome so i'm also grateful for my body it's been it's been functioning fairly well for quite a while now so i'm pretty happy about that so but ultimately what i'm really grateful for is my baby boy who is three months just turned three months old and he is and i know that all parents say this um
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But it's all say it as well.
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He really is just a little like a little light, just a little bright spirit.
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He's like he's got a really sweet soul or he is a really sweet soul.
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So he's in, you know, in addition to all the baby stuff that he does, you know, the diaper blowouts and all, you know, the.
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you know, velociraptor screeches that happen on occasion.
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You see him like embodying this, just a really chill spirit.
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He's going to, yeah, he's a, he's quite the little Buddha already.
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And so it's, it's nice to be able to steward his way, you know, through, through the world at this time.
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So he's, he's been a real, a real light in our lives.
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So I'm very, very happy to have him on board.
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So yeah, grateful, grateful, grateful for me.
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Well, we were lucky to get a little peek before we started recording where we got to see you and he together on screen.
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And I'm grateful to witness you as a father and such a beautiful little boy.
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Thank you.
The Importance of Integration
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Well, today we are going to talk about integration, talking about the process that happens after the insights, after the experiences, after the epiphanies.
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I think there's a very...
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deep cultural need or desire to take a pill and fix it, you know, go to the workshop and get worked up and think that maybe that's going to be the answer.
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I mean, there's so much even marketing that's like, you know, sign up and this will be fixed in your lives.
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But really, very few things actually get fixed unless you can integrate it and put it into practice.
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Betsy, is there any insights that you have had to integrate?
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Oh my god, continuously.
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That was really beautifully said, Halcyon.
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I feel so passionate about this concept of integration and have been learning about it since I started my journey of personal growth and development.
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I really started to recognize the importance of it through the contrast of not having the integration.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because I was really getting into a lot of personal growth and development trainings some years ago.
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And I would go to these like three day weekends where there's a lot of focus on mindset and breakthrough.
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And then I would go to these like these other
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trainings and things and have these aha moments and be able to see these limiting beliefs or see these different parts of myself that I was ready to change, or I would see like childhood programming or different things in the training.
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Wow, oh my gosh, I see myself.
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And then I would go home
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And I would feel really good for a little bit, but then I would just start to fall into the old thinking, the old habits, the programming.
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And then after some time, I would be like back in it and go like, but wait, I was, I felt like I was doing so good.
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And then after a little while, I started to recognize like, oh no, no, you can't just like be, think you're fixed.
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Like you said, and then just keep doing the things that I used to be doing.
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Right.
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So the integration of
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is the consistent, steady practices on a daily basis, you know, making those subtle shifts, those small and large shifts on a regular basis to be able to bring through those insights into mindset through, um, movement, you know, we're talking about the body as well, integration of movement patterns and habits.
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That's when I really started to see the changes, not at the event, but at home.
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Right.
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And same thing with like plant medicine, you know, do these like wonderful three day plant medicine ceremonies and have these ahas and then come home and go, okay, now is when the real work happens as the integration.
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Yeah.
Integrating Peak Experiences into Daily Life
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Yeah.
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You know, there's a, there's a saying about ayahuasca, um,
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That goes, which is, which can be applied to a lot of different things, but they say like everybody wants to do ayahuasca, but nobody wants to do the dishes.
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So we can, yeah, we can, we can have these experiences and,
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But that work, as you're saying, kind of starts after that.
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You can get the – what you gain from these peak experiences is a new perspective, which is great.
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But it's what you do with this new perspective that is going to get you the changes that I'm assuming you're looking to – that you are seeking to affect in life.
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And it doesn't always have to come from like –
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these peak experiences that we're trying to integrate.
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It's just, you know, it can come from a, taking a workshop or a, some, you know, just some, some form of furthering your education.
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Uh, it can come from, you can come from being a, being a new parent.
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Okay.
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So you got this new aspect of life.
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How are you going to integrate this into your already existing life?
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You know, does, does what has, what has to drop off of your life in order for you to integrate this new
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energy uh to to walk on this new path there's always a letting go that has to happen from a from an experience or whatever that you that we then need to integrate into the new the new self the new path we are always you know not human beings but humans becoming we are always becoming
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another version of ourselves.
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That is the one constant.
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The change is the only constant.
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We are always changing and evolving and growing, hopefully growing as opposed to devolving.
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But yeah, how best to do that.
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But we are always evolving, but at the same time, we have deep grooves that keep us in old patterns, which is why sometimes an insight
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can only kind of soothe us for a short period.
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And then the old gurus just pull us back.
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Other times the insight is so big that you can't see anything the same way ever again.
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You're like, Oh, I can't eat meat anymore.
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You know, like those kinds of insights that people have.
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But yeah,
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what can happen is we can have the experiences in the moment, in the containers that make them accessible to us in the safety of them.
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And then we start to look forward to the next time when we can be in that safe space.
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And that's true, I think, whether it's plant medicine or Burning Man is an example.
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You know, where you go to Burning Man, you have this container that allows you to have an experience or an insight, a self-awareness,
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And then too many people, and myself included in the early days, I started to, oh, I can't wait till I get to go back.
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And I get to be that again.
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Where integration in a Burning Man sense is like, okay, I know who I can be.
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How can I do that on a daily basis?
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How can I be more radically self-expressed?
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How can I gift?
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How can I do those things on a daily basis?
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And the hard part about integration is it's the hard part.
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It's way harder to do the things and to put the practice in place in a world that is not always encouraging of it.
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You know, a life that you already have the old patterns in.
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You have to really start to question and push yourself to be like, okay, I am going to commit to the mindset or the insights that I had in that high moment.
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And I think that our day-to-day lives are often a kind of a battle between the high version of ourself that gets the insights and the more maybe the id ego part of us that is caught up in what I want right now or what I've been doing my whole life, what is comfortable with.
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And, and it's, it's, I mean, that's why we have to have accountability buddies.
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And I just started a new habit tracker that I'm checking things off.
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So I, even though I'm feeling good in my body now, I'm going to be doing physical therapy twice a day.
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I am going to be doing my traction twice a day.
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I'm going to be doing all the things that I know I need to do because that's the integration of the healing that has been taking place.
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Yeah.
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Way to commit Halcyon.
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Yes.
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And you're so right.
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It's effort.
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to make changes.
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It's effort to create those new grooves, right?
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Those old grooves are really easy because we've been, you know, creating the pathways again and again and again, and walking on the same path that we've walked on for as long as we can remember.
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It's clear, it's easy, you know, but when you like want to create new grooves, new pathway, you got to pull out your machete and you got to cut some stuff down in order to create a new path.
Creating and Maintaining New Habits
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Joe Dispenza talks a lot about that in our neural biology to be able to create these new neurons to fire, new beliefs, new thinking, new habits.
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There's a great book called The Habit of Becoming Yourself.
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Joe Dispenza.
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It's so it's, it's powerful, you know, and or sorry, I think it's called breaking the habit of being yourself.
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You have to forgive me on missing the title there.
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But it really is very much about that is if we want to create a new version of ourselves,
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then we get to do the work to do that.
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And that's the integration that's showing up every day to do the physical therapy practices, right?
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I love that you brought that up because it's like, if we want new habit patterns of our physical body, we wanna stand differently.
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We wanna have more balance, more alignment, then we gotta show up every day with our awareness, with our practice, with our commitment, with our consistency, to be able to repattern the ways that we stand, the way that we walk, the way that we move.
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Right.
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And if we don't, then we're just going to stay in this, the same patterns.
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And so I think it's really important to find ways to help us to remember to do those things, right.
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It's the habits that we create every day, right?
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If I have one of the insights that I had.
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in one of my ceremonies is the importance of a morning practice.
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You know, my morning practice is so, so important to me.
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And it took me a while to get to a place of really committing to it because I wasn't, I wasn't in the habit of it.
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And so what I started to do is I started to put little reminders out for myself.
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Like one was drinking water.
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I know the importance of drinking water every morning and lemon and getting my chlorophyll in.
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And I wasn't doing that as regularly as I would have liked to.
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And so I started putting the water and the lemon out the night before to remind myself.
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Right.
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And so then I started to build the habit and then that the integration of the morning ritual started to unfold from there.
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That water ritual in the morning then led to my meditation, then led to my breath work, then left, you know, to the movement and so on and so forth.
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And so setting ourselves up for success to integrate the things that we want to be doing and
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support who we're becoming.
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Yeah.
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And it's important to remember, like you're saying, Betsy, is the importance of baby steps.
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It can be a little daunting having this new, excuse me, this new insight into, okay, this is how I want to be.
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But it can seem like such a big undertaking, but it starts with like tiny little steps.
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For example, like wanting to be like, okay, I've got to, I'm trying to become a morning person.
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So how do I do that?
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Well, I've got a habit of hitting the snooze, hitting the snooze button on my thing, on my, on my clock.
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So what, how to, how to do that, put the, put the clock, put your phone or whatever on the other side of the room.
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So you have to get out of bed in order to turn it off.
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And so it's getting out of that bed and doing that at that point, I'm closer to the door of my bedroom and back to my bed.
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Just keep the momentum going.
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Just keep the, keep the,
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Keep them.
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Yeah.
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Just keep the momentum going out the door to the bathroom, start the practice.
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And that's that way.
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Okay.
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So now I'm out of bed.
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And then from there, sometimes I would go back to bed, but at that point it's like, no, I'm out of bed.
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Start, keep my day going.
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And then just going, and it didn't take very long before I am now a morning person getting up.
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And now,
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everything can kind of move forward or proceed from that one little step, you know, the morning chlorophyll with the lemon and lemon water, things like that.
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But yeah, baby steps, one small step at the beginning is all it takes.
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I love that integration is such a topic right now.
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And it is such a part of conversations about psychedelics and plant medicines and things.
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I know that in my early days of exploring psychedelics, it was not a part of the conversation.
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There wasn't many conversations at all.
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And I think I had the belief that because I had the insight that I had learned the lesson.
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And I, in my memory, my mind tends to think that if you know this thing, you know, this thing, you know, I, I now know that, you know, if I hear anything that I want to remember, I should write it down because my brain tells me you're going to remember, don't you worry.
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But that's just not true.
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And so now I know that if I have an insight, if I have a idea like, oh, I should do more of this in my life, I need to commit to something then.
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I need to make a plan while I believe and know what I need and not just trust that, oh, I now know that I should be more loving.
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Well, okay, what are you going to do?
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And actually, I was just thinking about my, like,
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much of my daily practices were committed to after insights.
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So I had a four years ago, that'll be four years ago in actually a week or a couple of weeks, I had the insight that you should do gratitude circles every day.
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You should be of service and do gratitude circles every day.
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That came to me through a plant medicine awareness of how can I be of service during the pandemic?
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And like knowing that I should be of service would have faded.
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It would not have been integrated, but now it is a part of my life.
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The same is true with the morning broadcast I do every day at 9 a.m.
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I had the insight, the psychedelic insight, you need to put more love into the world.
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Okay, that feels super strong and real, but how do you integrate that?
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And it's like, okay, I'm going to go online every morning and say, I love you to people.
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That's how it started.
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And then that's kind of evolved.
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But it is, I really feel that because of those practices, I have changed in ways that the insights themselves could never have done for me.
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It's amazing.
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And if I could just jump in on this, I would venture to say that
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committing to that, you are putting that love out into the world.
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And what has transpired in your life since then is absolute testimony to the universe giving back to you what you put out.
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It reflects you back to you.
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So when you're putting out, I need to put more love out into the world.
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I think that's the universe being like, oh, that's what you're up to now?
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Here, let me love you back through this person.
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Let's, let's, let's get you put you, since you're all about love, I'm going to put the deepest, most profound love into your life.
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And you can live in that.
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You can live in that.
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And so I, I'm pretty sure that was not your intention for doing that.
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But when you just, when you're just,
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And this goes back to what we talked about before the previous episode with authenticity.
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When you are doing something from an authentic place, the universe just loves that.
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It really, really enjoys that.
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It's like, oh, fantastic.
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You're being authentic.
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Boom.
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Here's more of that.
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Here's more of that's going to allow you to keep pumping out love because you're just being fed this love back in return.
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So boomerang.
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It's a boomerang.
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It's a love boomerang.
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That's right.
Tools for Personal Growth
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Life is really, it is a boomerang.
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Louise Hayes talks a lot about life and being a boomerang and what you put out is what you're going to get back.
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And I love that so much too, because I hear, you know, when we are committed to making positive changes in our lives, then we get to serve from that place as well.
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When we have our own personal breakthroughs, then we let that fuel our offerings in the world, our purpose, our path, our dharma.
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I personally also have had a similar experience where I was really recognizing the importance of my own integration of this transformation work, of the mindset work,
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And journaling was really one of the major contributions to the integration and to the, like creating the new grooves, affirmations and journaling and really getting in touch with what my limiting beliefs are and were.
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That really was such an important practice for me that it ended up fueling the next phase of my offering in the world, which was
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The Power Affirmation Journal, which was also inspired by the importance of integration from medicine work.
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I was in ayahuasca ceremonies in 2018 and 19, and I was recognizing I needed a tool.
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If I was, if I also needed a tool.
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support my integration than I would imagine other people needed a tool.
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And so I really listened to that.
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And then I found so much inspiration to create this journal to support the power of integration and affirmation into our process.
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And so it's actually designed specifically for that, to keep the repetition going, to keep the
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practice is going, right?
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It's like, you know, back to Joe Dispenza, he talks about how when we learn something new, we have 26,000 new neurons firing, right?
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And so when we repeat that information, those neurons get stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger, right?
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If you've ever used note cards, right, you memorize something, it gets stronger and stronger and stronger, it gets in there, right?
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You say an affirmation over and over and over and over again, it gets in there, right?
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We're doing these different patterns over and over and over again,
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it gets in there as our neural pathways are getting stronger and stronger.
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And so it's really a powerful practice to keep showing up, whether that is through journaling for you or through movement or, you know, meditation or these new programs of like setting yourself up for success, like by putting your phone across the room, that's integrating.
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And it's such a beautiful thing because then we can start to see, oh, wow, I am making changes.
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Right?
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It's like we climbed climbing this mountain and it's important to pause when you're like, you know, partway up the mountain to look back and go, wow, I've come a long way.
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This is working.
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I'm going to keep going.
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I so love that your practice of integration led to your offering of a tool for integration.
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Because I think a pitfall that I think a lot of people fall into is they have a profound epiphany, a profound up leveling of awareness, and they feel this calling charge to share.
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And so they then want to share the insight.
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But there's a difference between sharing an idea versus sharing.
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learning to embody an idea and practice something and walk the walk of it and then share and teach that.
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And I think people fall into the pitfall often of, oh my gosh, I've done ayahuasca.
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Now I'm going to open a retreat center or, you know, like, whoa, okay.
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Okay.
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That's good.
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But maybe let's see if you can walk in service for a little while and see if you can
Growth and Change: Nature’s Lessons
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shed this.
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I know you want to shed your old life.
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Let's work on that before you teach other people how to shed their old life.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, it's like you look in... And in becoming this new thing, in becoming this new thing, I think we can take a cue from nature.
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You know, snakes don't all of a sudden just like grab, just, ah, I'm off, I'm done.
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You know, or, you know... Get the skin off me.
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Caterpillars don't just like spin around like Wonder Woman for a few times.
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Oh, I'm a beautiful butterfly.
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It's like, no, it is a process.
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And it's a fairly slow process.
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Like you have to like get...
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Once you're motivated to do so, you got to get in it and you got to be with it for a while and then slowly become this thing.
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It's not an instantaneous kind of thing.
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And as the saying goes, before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
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After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
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Much of your life is going to look very similar.
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You just simply have a new perspective and a new motivation and reason for doing the things that you want to do.
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This whole idea of like our life is just wholesale, completely different.
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It's like, okay, you might actually get there, but it's not going to be this all at once kind of thing.
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It is a process and it's often a slow process, but that's what makes it valuable and worthwhile to do.
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Yes, I love that so much.
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And you know, another metaphor sparks for me in hearing that around nature.
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I've been thinking a lot about this recently because we are just over halfway from winter to spring equinox.
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And there's this feeling of like, you know, we planted some seeds and the flowers have not come out of the ground yet to bloom and blossom, but they're there.
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Right.
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And it's like with our own transformation work, we're not going to like reach into the soil to try and like dig the seed out to see if it's done something yet.
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We just tend to the soil and we make sure that there's, there's light and there's water and we're, we are present and patient, right?
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I'm not going to try and force myself to bloom if I'm not ready yet.
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But I think it's a really, really powerful thing to have that strong belief and conviction and knowing that we are changing.
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We are evolving.
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I think that's also one of the things that can come up sometimes is like, if we don't see the change right away, then we start to have a disbelief in ourselves.
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Like, oh, I'm never going to change.
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It's not working.
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Nothing's happening.
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Well, that's just going to keep us in that pattern.
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Right.
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But then the continuous showing up and that conviction of growth, of transformation, of the insights, right.
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I might've had that insight in that ceremony last weekend.
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Well, okay, well, I'm going to keep holding that, keep coming back to that.
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Even though I can't quite see it yet, I'm still holding that.
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I'm going to keep
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holding myself high.
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I'm going to keep showing up in the ways that will support me in becoming the beautiful butterfly or the blossoming flower or the new skin of the snake.
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You know, it's this really important part of it is believing in ourselves and believing in the process of evolution that is upon us.
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Indeed.
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Indeed.
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So, yeah, I think there's, I mean, so many different ways, you know, to practice, you know, this integration and what helps me and I could even maybe use this as a, yeah, a final spark that's, you know, coming to me.
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What I've done is kind of realize that,
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You know, that once again, change is the only constant.
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And we're going to be, we're going to change.
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We are going to, we are either, you know, evolving or devolving.
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We are always, there's no like, we're not just cruising along.
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We are either trending up or we're trending down.
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So having some awareness of that and being like, okay, I'm moving one way or the other.
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what do I want?
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I want to move up.
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So what am I going to do to kind of, instead of just assuming that's going to happen on its own, right?
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Really taking the reins.
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Okay.
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I'm going to change.
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How am I going to change?
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What, what is, like, this is all my whole experience, like looking around, this is all temporary.
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So what can I do to change this in a direction that I feel that I'm going to feel good about, that is going to allow me to offer my gifts to the world, that is going to be to everyone's highest benefit, including my own.
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And
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And taking the time and taking it slow and realizing, okay, so how do I go about this?
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And integrating all my past experiences into the present moment.
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and using that as a guide to get me to where I wanna be.
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This has all been done before.
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We don't have to reinvent the wheel.
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We have to reinvent ourselves, but that's not reinventing the wheel.
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People have done way where, what we're trying to do has been done before.
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So these tools, whether it's medicines or peak experiences, these are opportunities.
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And so once we have seized the opportunity, put forth the action,
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you know, that is born from that opportunity to recreate ourselves anew.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Mic drop.
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Yes.
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So beautiful.
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I, I mean, I'm open to going to closing sparks, but I know I could keep going on, on the topic of integration because I think it is a really such an important conversation to be in.
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But I, I think that it,
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can continue at some point.
Personal Integration Practices
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But I'll just share some of my personal practices or my own integration and my own commitments to myself at the integration of transformation, essentially.
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So if I have a peak experience, whether that is a
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transformational workshop or educational training or a plant medicine ceremony or just a profound experience.
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I have found that doing a voice recording afterwards with myself is really helpful because then I can come back to that voice recording and I can listen to it.
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And I will oftentimes give myself a little pep talk or reminders
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Right.
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And so then I go back to my voice recording and listen from that place because I know that it does take some time.
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It does take some like keep coming back to the reminders of these insights that I've been having.
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That's one.
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And then affirmations.
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surprise, surprise, as you guys know, or maybe some of you out there don't know me that well yet.
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But I am definitely an affirmation enthusiast and addict.
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They are so supportive to me.
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And even the simplest affirmation is I am easily integrating the insights that have come to me.
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I am actively and easily integrating the insights and new habits, new patterns, new programs into my consciousness.
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I am evolving.
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I am taking steps every day in every way to integrate these new insights and these new beliefs, right?
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It's just a helpful way to affirm and confirm to myself that I am making progress, right?
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Instead of like maybe that little voice inside sometimes that wants to creep in and be like, well, you're not far enough along yet.
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You know, you haven't.
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you haven't done this without, you don't have the ability to be able to become this next version of you because you have, you know, there's this little doubter in there.
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And so I want to give power to that voice, the stronger voice that is affirming that I am making positive changes.
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And I will share one of my favorite affirmations at the end of this conversation.
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It seems really fitting.
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Awesome.
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I want to share my personal practice of integration, which is at nine o'clock every morning, I do a love morning broadcast.
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And it's a gratitude practice as well as a intention setting of who do I want to be today?
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And that intention can shift based on insights and epiphanies.
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So it's really an integration practice of like, what are the thoughts or who is the person that I want to be based on the insights that I've been getting?
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And so I can lean heavily into, I want to be more connecting.
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Today, even though I have old patterns of shyness or being introspective,
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Today, I want to be more open to connection as I go through the day.
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Or today, I want to be focusing on listening today.
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And it's a way for me to acknowledge that there is a difference between this higher self-awareness of my best and sometimes the version of myself that I slip into when I'm reacting in the old patterns of
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And I find that by starting my day, or at least depending on how early I wake up, by 9 o'clock, I've got a directive that is informed by the insights and the epiphanies and the playa magic and the plant medicine downloads that I can give to myself and remind myself on a daily basis.
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So that by the end of the day, if I just can be that person, no matter what happens, I know that I am in purpose and life is good and I can feel good about myself.
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Yes.
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All right.
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Amazing.
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Ah, so inspiring.
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I actually just put a little sticky note on my computer that says, who do I want to be today?
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Such a good reminder.
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Thank you for that spark.
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Keep that regularly around.
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I want to be a love ambassador.
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Yes.
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And it's, it's a different question than what do I need to do today?
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Yeah.
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Honestly, a better, honestly, a better question.
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Like who, you know, as you know, being embodying this, you know, this, our, our preferred highest version of ourself that the doing will take care of itself.
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Right.
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Like, yeah, just, you know, who do, who do I want to be?
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And then that'd be attached to whatever that action is going to come as a result of, you know, answering that question.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Well said, sir.
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Beautiful.
Offerings and Connections
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All right.
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Well, let's close it up with a little insight into how you beautiful listeners out there can get in touch with us because we love when you get in touch with us, when you send us messages, when you order from our sites, because we all have special offerings in the world for you all.
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So, Janice, you want to start us off and share with our listeners how to find you and your amazing products?
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Certainly, certainly.
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My name of my company is New World Nutritionals, and we offer nutritional supplements designed to improve and elevate your state of mind.
00:33:04
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Going back to what you were talking about before, Betsy, with Dr. Joe Dispenza talking about creating new neural pathways, the product we have, which is a microdose product called Micromosol Plus, offers an opportunity to kind of
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lay fresh powder on the mountain so that these old tracks, these old ruts that have been grooved into our brains and our way of thinking, it's an opportunity to kind of put some new snow down and create some new habits and some new thought patterns that will help empower us, enable us to become the version of ourselves we're trying to be.
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So check it out.
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Check out the website, newworldnutritionals.com, spelled N-U-worldnutritionals.com.
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And you can use the code SPARKED for 10% off of all of our products.
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Awesome.
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And I will give a testimonial that I have used your product and trying when I was beginning sobriety, trying to make new patterns.
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And I am a believer and a fan.
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And thank you for putting that into the world.
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You can find me every morning at 9 a.m.
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on YouTube or Facebook, sometimes on Instagram.
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My YouTube channel is Hug Nation.
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And you can find those links and others at johnstyn.com, J-O-H-N-S-T-Y-N.com.
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And you can find
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Join me for a morning broadcast and we can set our intentions together.
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Or again, at noon, we do a Zoom with a gratitude share.
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But whatever you do, I wish you a integrative day.
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Your offerings support integration, right?
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Because we can study practice, right?
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Integration of gratitude into your life.
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If you want the integration of gratitude fully into your life, then show up to those Zoom calls.
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They're free.
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That's amazing.
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You're creating such a beautiful community, amazing offerings.
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So thank you for that.
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I love to share with you guys some of my offerings as well.
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If you haven't already found me on Instagram, Betsy Who, and my website is finkelwho.com where you can see all of my unique offerings.
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I am a somatic practitioner and I do body work and sound healing.
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I love supporting people and getting in touch with the mind body spirit connection and
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And I also have, as I mentioned, a company called Power Affirmation, which is essentially tools to support transformation and integration of transformation.
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So the journal is broken down into a system that helps you get in touch with your belief systems and then effectively choose new belief systems through repetition and prompts that really get you to go deep.
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Um, and then I have a library of audio affirmations on insight timer, um, and some more wonderful products coming.
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A deck is coming.
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I'm really excited about some good things there.
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So keep an eye on power affirmation.com and, uh, formation in our show notes.
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Um,
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So you can check that out.
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Amazing.
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I'm marveling how all of us are really dedicated to integration and helping people with integration in the world.
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We should have done this topic sooner.
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Maybe we should change the name of our podcast.
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Stay integrated.
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It's not the worst idea.
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Betsy, can you give us the affirmation you teased us with?
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Yes, I would be happy to.
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So this is actually one of my favorites.
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It's really supportive of the evolutionary process that we're all in.
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You know, as you spoke so beautifully to a human becoming, right?
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So the affirmation is I love who I am and I love who I am becoming.
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And so as we repeat this affirmation, if you can put your hand on your heart, if you like, close your eyes.
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I love who I am and I love who I'm becoming.
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So honoring this deep connection to ourself and trusting that we are becoming new.
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I love who I am and I love who I'm becoming.
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I love who I am and I love who I'm becoming.
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I love who I am and I love who I'm becoming.
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I am making positive changes in my life.
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I am making positive changes in my life.
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I am evolving.
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I am evolving.
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I am evolving and easefully integrating.
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I am easefully integrating the new ways of becoming this next version of myself.
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All is well.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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Let us all continue on this beautiful journey of growth and evolution and transformation.
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Love you, brother, so much.
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Love you too, B. Stay smart, people.
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Thanks so much for helping us spread these sparks.