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2025 Sun Belt Football Previews: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
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Brian and Matt are back to discuss the 2025 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers, under their third-year head coach, Tim Beck. Coastal struggled offensively last year under Beck and now searches for its third starting quarterback in as many years, with the former NC State offensive coordinator at the helm.
Defensively, the team will try to rebound after surrendering 31 points per game 2 of the last 3 seasons with some experience returning in the linebacker room and an undersized secondary.
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Introduction to Warm Weather Fans
00:00:16
Speaker
Welcome in everybody to another edition of warm weather fans the Sunbelt podcast. ah This is Brian the host ah here with Matt. Zeke could not make the recording of this episode or ULM so he will be absent for those but Matt today we're talking about the Coastal Carolina chant clears but before we jump into all that how are things going with you.
00:00:39
Speaker
I'm good, man. Look, I'm willing to give Zeke the pass. He he threw out the the mandatory dinner at his mom's house. I've been there before. i get it. um when when When mom says you're coming to the house for a home cooked meal, I don't know many people that would say no.
00:00:53
Speaker
So look, I'll let him slide for the week. You know, i i don't mean to sound mean when I say this, but this is one of the benefits of me living eight hours away from my parents.
00:01:04
Speaker
that they can't They can't just snap their fingers and go. They can't call mandatory dinner. Right. right So they can't just be like, oh, hey, why don't you just why don't you just stop by tonight and bring the whole fam?
00:01:19
Speaker
Like, there's that's not really an option. but That doesn't work. So I do appreciate it from that perspective, but, uh, all right.
Coastal Carolina's Season and Tim Beck's Future
00:01:27
Speaker
So like I said, we are here talking about, uh, coastal Carolina, uh, who had a not great season last year.
00:01:35
Speaker
Um, Tim Beck, still the head coach there. It's year three. Uh, uh, just going back a couple of years, obviously his first season, he inherits Grace McCall and some of the pieces from the Jamie Chadwell era.
00:01:49
Speaker
Um, and, and they do fairly well. Uh, but then, when Grayson McCall moves on transfers to North Carolina state, couple other players here and there. Uh, I remember like Braden Bennett, uh, was like a big running back for them in years past.
00:02:08
Speaker
Um, yeah, I mean, they, they were eight and five in 2023. And then last season, uh, were basically a six and six team that lost, uh, their bowl game.
00:02:20
Speaker
So they finished under 500. Um, I'm to be honest, man. I don't think i think and don't think Tim Beck has a lot of time left in ah Conway, and I don't think he's got to worry about it.
00:02:33
Speaker
here's my Here's my thing um with with with that. I always give coaches three years. um sure I always say give them three years, um and if by year three you don't feel confident in the direction that that coach has your team going, then you cut ties and move on.
00:02:52
Speaker
Right now, Tim Beck is 14-12 as a head coach at Coastal Carolina. um If he finishes the third year with an overall record under.500, cutting ties. cutting tight um you know And again, you talk about having Grayson McCall in those first seven games of 2023. That was a huge benefit to them going 8-5 because if you look at the schedule for 2023, things kind of started to fall off a little bit once yeah once McCall departed.
00:03:21
Speaker
And then last year, you know you had Ethan Vasco, you had Noah Kim. They kind of battled for... time really at the quarterback spot last year.
00:03:32
Speaker
Neither one was great. ah Don't get me wrong. They had games where, you know, they looked good. Like I remember a couple times last year thinking, oh man, Ethan Vasco could be the dude, but then he would throw a critical interception and you'd go, okay, there he is.
00:03:49
Speaker
He's back. Vasco gave me big, like, Will Levis energy. Oh, yeah. Like, oh he would make a great throw, and you'd be like, all right, well, maybe we can do something with this. And then he would make one of the most head-scratching decisions, th throws, after that, that you would ever see in your life and go, oh, oh i I see.
00:04:08
Speaker
i get it. and and And what happened to Will Levis in the NFL? Oh, yeah. Yeah, um i re relegated so what, third string? he's ah He's a clipboard holder now. um Yeah, I mean, look, I think this is put up or shut up time for for Tim Beck.
00:04:25
Speaker
ah they' they've got to They've got to show something. I'm not saying that Coastal Carolina has got to light the world on fire and be playing for a Sunbelt Conference Championship this year.
Team Performance and Key Player Losses
00:04:34
Speaker
ah But if you're the athletic administration at Coastal, when when December rolls around, you've got to feel really good about the direction that your football team's headed in.
00:04:44
Speaker
I think we said this a couple of years ago about Sean Elliott at state. When we were talking, we were previewing Georgia state in, I think it was 2023 or 2022. I want to say 23.
00:04:57
Speaker
And we told you and I both told Zeke, literally the worst thing that could happen is you guys go 500 and the, the athletic department can shrug their shoulders and go, well, let's, let's run it back. let's Yeah. know it back yeah and And I think that that applies here too. Literally going 6-6, 7-6, 6-7, depending on what happens in the bowl game, and Tim Beck coming back for a year four after this, is likely case scenario and still not knowing if he's truly the answer as head coach, yeah, like you said, it's worst case scenario because at that point, you can spin it either way and say,
00:05:39
Speaker
Well, the only reason he won in 2023 was because he had ah the a guy who was a Sunbelt Player the Year in Grace McCall, and he hasn't replicated that since. And then on the other side, you can look and go, oh, well, you know, like you said, it's only been three years.
00:05:56
Speaker
ah You know, the the first one, whether you want to say good or bad, was a wash because it wasn't really his team. He didn't have time to get all of that stuff implemented. And he's doing that slowly.
00:06:09
Speaker
However, if we want to go ahead and jump into the quarterback situation,
00:06:15
Speaker
you can't be a guy with an offensive background and ah at rolling out guys at to the level of Ethan Vasco every week. Like I thought Noah Kim had some nice little moments last year. Like namely I watched the Louisiana Zeke's probably hitting a bell somewhere, but I brought up Louisiana, so it doesn't count.
00:06:36
Speaker
I watched the Louisiana coastal game from last year and they were given Louisiana a time to, to to to put that game away. I mean, Wooldridge had to hit like a long throw to the the tight end down the field to ice it, but I thought Kim played pretty well, and I was really weird like weirded out that Beck kept looking at the Vasco situation and being like, let's just keep doing it.
00:06:58
Speaker
like i It doesn't matter that he's not getting better, and he might actually be getting worse, and we're we're not building on any of these things from a week-to-week basis. Just keep keep rolling him out and hope hope for the best. Yeah.
00:07:09
Speaker
you know when you When you look at the the returning starters, you have six guys back on offense. And you know on the surface, you look at that and go, oh well, that gives me some you know some confidence, right?
00:07:22
Speaker
And look, four of those guys being back are on the offensive line. That's huge. It's huge to have experience in the trenches. That's that's paramount. But you have a quarterback that's never played for you.
00:07:35
Speaker
You have a running back that only started – two games last year and didn't even run for 100 yards. um Your leading receiver from last year is back. But again, you you don't know anything about the quarterback. So you can't really have great receiver play without a quarterback to get him the football.
00:07:54
Speaker
um So, i like you said, for a guy in Tim Beck that is very you know offensive oriented, he was an offensive coordinator at NC State, I don't like the skill player situation that he's got going and and in 2025.
00:08:10
Speaker
Again, for ah four starters back on the offensive line, that's great. But if you don't have the skill player, your offensive lineman can't score touchdowns for you. Yeah, that' just that's not the way it works.
00:08:21
Speaker
um Yeah, I don't love the the skill player situation that they've got going on in Conway. If I was to draw, okay, I was thinking about this after we recorded our app preview with Aikman, and obviously Zeke was there too.
00:08:39
Speaker
Is there a lot of parallels between Dowell Loggins and Tim Beck? It's an offensive guy from the Carolinas taking a job in the Carolinas and that sort of being the continuity from a P5 school perspective.
00:08:55
Speaker
I know South Carolina with Lenore Sellers was a lot better than anything NC State has put on a football field in probably a decade and a half. But I was just like, it's weird. On paper, yes. I'll say that there are a lot of similarities.
00:09:08
Speaker
I'm willing to give Dow Loggins an opportunity, right, to to be the head coach and to put his stamp on App State football. But yeah, no, on paper, like like you said, big time,
00:09:22
Speaker
coordinator from a, from a P five school in the Carolinas takes a step down to be the head coach at a, at a Sunbelt school in the Carolinas offensive minded guy. Like, yeah, the the parallels are certainly there.
00:09:35
Speaker
But I'm not ready to say that they're quite on the same level because Tim Beck has had two years to, to be a head coach and, and, and hasn't, you know, flashed excellence. No.
00:09:46
Speaker
So we we hinted at the quarterback spot. ah Phil Steele's magazine, which we've been using sort of as a an almanac of sorts, has MJ Morris, the transfer from Maryland, slotted in to start at quarterback?
00:10:02
Speaker
ah Morris, basically, I think the problem a lot with this team
Recruiting Challenges and Offensive Line Prospects
00:10:08
Speaker
outside of the offensive line, like you mentioned, is... it's not even just from a, this guy hasn't played for me perspective. It's this guy hasn't produced at the college level yet perspective.
00:10:20
Speaker
And MJ Morris is like, he's up there on that level. So he, he started one game for Maryland last year. He played in seven games. He threw for 350 yards.
00:10:31
Speaker
He's not, not exactly a physical specimen at six, one, two Oh nine. um, I hate to just keep piling on, but like we've seen so many instances of these P5 guys that are on the end of a bench that say, hey, let me take a step down to the G5 level.
00:10:52
Speaker
And guess what? They're not actually that good at football. I mean, yeah you know the Tate Rodemacher being the the the prime example last year. Do you remember a guy by the name of Braden Hawkins?
00:11:06
Speaker
No, and I think that's all No, don't. That's my point. yeah That's my point. Transferred from Maryland to Louisiana was going to be you know this big quarterback commit for the Cajuns, and he never saw the field.
00:11:20
Speaker
Yeah. Like, that there you go. Yeah. And I feel like as many... there I want to say this. I have no facts to back this up. I feel like there are...
00:11:35
Speaker
the the successes of going from a P5 to a G5 and tearing it up are much fewer and further between than, in my mind, than the failures are. I feel like the failures are kind of a dime a dozen.
00:11:49
Speaker
um So, yeah, so you've got the the other guys in the quarterback room. If MJ Morris proves that he's not the guy, you've got Emmitt Brown, um which I'm pretty sure is the name of ah Christopher Lloyd's character in Back to the Future.
00:12:07
Speaker
ah
00:12:10
Speaker
Is the other quarterback? He's 5'10", 187. He stood 1,600 yards last year. ah stood for sixteen hundred yards last year Yeah, at San Jose State. So that was, he may be starting by week four.
00:12:22
Speaker
but we We truly don't know. And then ah Tad Hudson, who started their bowl game and frankly stunk it up. I mean, like, i don't I don't really have another way to put it. Like everybody, i i don't want to say everybody, but I did see a lot, of a fair bit of Coastal fans that were on social media being like, listen, man, all we had to do was get Tad Hudson in there. Vasco and Kim are out.
00:12:45
Speaker
Let's get this guy some reps. And it went really, really poorly. It went really, really bad. um All right. So we've we've kind of beat down the quarterback spot. i mean I mean, it's been a weak spot since basically Grace McCall was concussed in like week eight 2023.
00:13:04
Speaker
The man who pissed Teal couldn't piss Teal anymore. Yeah. ah It's been rough. ah And then this is just sort of the problem all the way around. Running back spot, I think you mentioned this. I can't remember if you mentioned it before we started recording or not. But then you've got Javin Simpkins, ah who slated in, ah ran for 93 yards in two games last year.
00:13:28
Speaker
So again, not really burst to get the seams with experience here. This is a very... This is a very green team, um both in uniform and in experience.
00:13:39
Speaker
um You got a transfer from UMass in Jalen John, who's got some ah is a decent sized dude, 5'11", 220. So maybe he could function a little bit as a bowling ball type. first Five yards of carry last year at UMass.
00:13:56
Speaker
Listen, guys, we're we're grasping at straws here, just trying to find trying to find anything to hold on to with this this Coastal team. <unk> we're We're trying to give the Schant fans something to to take their mind off of baseball.
00:14:10
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Trying to give y'all something. I mean, let's be honest, though. They're doing better than than than all the other Sunbelt teams in that respect. Oh, for sure. For sure. They played for a national title. that There's not much to to scoff at.
00:14:24
Speaker
Yeah. Everybody else is is ah on a beach as soon as the school year is over. um All right. So from the receiving core, ah you mentioned Jameson Tucker, 574 yards last year does he He has to be the guy, right, for the at the at the wide receiver spot for them?
00:14:45
Speaker
Veteran-wise, yes. um And, I mean, I think in terms of comfortability, I mean, he's a guy that you know had 574 yards and six touchdowns last year.
00:14:57
Speaker
Tim Beck's going to use him as much as he possibly can. ah But one guy I really want to point out that um Phil Steele has as a potential starter is Robbie Washington.
00:15:10
Speaker
He's a 5'11", 180-pound transfer from Miami. But here's the thing, Brian, that I that i want to point out. He played seven games last year for the Hurricanes on defense.
00:15:22
Speaker
Yeah. Tim Beck's flipping him.
00:15:26
Speaker
How often do we see that work? I feel like Tim Beck is like like... He's like Dr. Frankenstein. He's just in the lab, and he's flipping the switches, and he's pressing every button. What does this do? How do we do this?
00:15:42
Speaker
yeah I just heard an explosion three miles away. i don't know what happened. um Yeah, no. I mean... it it may seem like everything's all good in Conway, but it really does, especially when you look at the roster construction outside of the offensive line, it really does feel like it's, it's like, Hey guys, don't worry about it. Like we're going to figure it out. But in reality, it's, it's just sweating bullets trying to like find anybody to, you know, contribute to this offense, which struggled last year.
00:16:14
Speaker
And, you know, it's so surprising that they, they really struggle to recruit to Coastal Carolina, right? Because you think about it, since they've joined the Sun Belt, they had a couple of years where where they struggled early on.
00:16:31
Speaker
um But, you know, that 2019, 2020, 2021 run was really special. um And it proved that Coastal can be one of those teams on a fairly regular basis, right?
00:16:46
Speaker
um And then you add in the fact that it's Myrtle Beach, you know great part of the country, blah, blah, blah. <unk> I've always been surprised that they struggle to recruit there as much as they do.
00:17:01
Speaker
Well, that was what Tim Beck's kind of MO was supposed to be. you know was I've got this recruiting footprint in the Carolinas from my time at NC State. right So I may not be pulling P5 guys or guys on the P5 level away from P5 schools, but that maybe that second tier or that one-and-a-half tier where it's like these guys could go either way, whether it be via – grades or you know what have you I'm going to get those guys and we will kind of close the gap on the rest of the Sunbelt that way but what what you said though about Coastal showing in that 2019-2020 season that they could compete
00:17:44
Speaker
I think the key is, though, as it was with Troy, as we see now, you got to get the right coach in there or it's kind of all for not. Like, it's not a place that recruits itself.
00:17:55
Speaker
You know what I mean? Right. Like if if Georgia State was more serious and had history like as a football program, I feel like going to Atlanta would like mean something to like a lot of these recruits because it's a big city. It's fun. People love living there, all that sort of stuff.
00:18:13
Speaker
like what you said, Conway slash Myrtle Beach, whatever you want to call it, that general area is mostly like touristy type stuff. So it's not one of those places where people are kind of beating down the door come there.
00:18:28
Speaker
um but for But with that said, Jamie Chadwell showed he could do it or at least showed that he could get talent that maybe wasn't elite elite other than Grayson McCall and find a way to make it work and and put these guys in a position to to make plays.
00:18:48
Speaker
And frankly, from my experience, and the only reason we're hyping,
00:18:54
Speaker
on the offense so much is because this is what Tim Beck's MO is supposed to be. And it, and it frankly hasn't, hasn't panned out that way yet. Other than, you know, early in the season in 2023. So moving tight end, nothing, nobody really of note, you know, Cameron Wright is a senior receiver for them. He has some nice size to him. Six, four to 10. He had 314 receiving year.
00:19:21
Speaker
receiving yards last year But as we as we wrap up kind of the skill position stuff, i'm I'm only reminded by the point you made, which is if we don't have anybody to get them the football, what does it matter? you know You could have you know Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, and Jerry Rice, and it's like... But if I'm your quarterback...
00:19:41
Speaker
you're if You're screwed. If Nathan Peterman's throwing them the football, does it matter? Correct. No. They're going to have to make some out-of-this-world type plays. Okay, so on the offensive line, who they have a ah what four returning starters in that respect.
00:19:57
Speaker
ah who Who sticks out to you? Who's like the guy that you would look at and say, that's somebody that they can depend on? So I'm really excited about Heston Edwards.
00:20:08
Speaker
The left guard, he's 315, had seven starts at UT Permian Basin, transfers in last year, appears in every game, makes nine starts. You know, just just a bulldozer type of ah type of a left guard.
00:20:24
Speaker
And I feel like that's something. That is really good when you pair him alongside Del Grande, who we talked about. What was an honorable mention last year was third team the year before.
00:20:36
Speaker
Really good experience there on the left side of the line to protect your quarterback. I think that that is crucial. And then you get Zach Elam back at center who missed the entire season last year with injury.
00:20:49
Speaker
that's That's a huge veteran that, again, has experience under his belt and can get back into that fold on the offensive line. He started eight games in 2023. So that left side and that center really gives me some confidence, and at least from the trenches perspective for Coastal's offense.
00:21:09
Speaker
Okay, I have a question for you. This has to be a misprint in the magazine. and but Behind Elam, you've got Thomas Johnson, who it says started 10 games or nine games for them last year.
00:21:22
Speaker
He can't be 200 pounds, right? It says 6'3", 200. That's a receiver. Playing center? Yeah, that's got to be a misprint.
00:21:33
Speaker
i i would That reminds me of when the Cowboys had Ezekiel Elliott snap ah the ball against the 49ers in that final play. I was like, just imagine Zeke snapping the ball, not our Zeke, but Zeke Elliott snapping the ball every every game to the quarterback. Or that's when in baseball, when your bullpen's so depleted, they put in the the third baseman to throw 50 miles an hour. Like, come on. Yeah.
00:21:57
Speaker
im strong He's throwing lollipops barely getting into the plate, which I've never understood. like remember Remember when Anthony Rizzo struck out Freddie Freeman? Yeah. Classic. You guys can whip a a ball across the diamond, and then you get up there, and it's slow-pitch softball. I don't i't really understand how that works.
00:22:15
Speaker
All right. um On the defensive side of the ball, ah they have some returning starters as well. ah On the defensive line, most notably Sawyer, Gorham, Welch, their nose tackle, they're going to run, i think, a 3-4 front here may leak into 3-3-5, depending on personnel.
00:22:34
Speaker
ah depending on ah personnel But Gorham Welch ah played all 12 games started last year, only not 32 tackles, but that's not the function of a nose tackle at any level of football. They're just supposed to eat blocks, kind of open up for areas for the linebackers to come in um and make plays. And they have two linebackers coming back in Shane Bruce and Wyatt Gideon.
00:23:01
Speaker
yeah So maybe there's some hope there. um Is there anybody else on the defensive side that really kind of catches your eye? No, I mean, I really like those three. Travis Nesbitt at the opposite end is a talented player at 6'3", 275. He had a sack last year.
00:23:19
Speaker
um but you know, one thing that I want to point out, I'm sure we're going to get to it as we transition to the secondary, they don't have a single guy in the projected starting lineup
00:23:31
Speaker
six foot or taller. That's a, that's a problem for me in the defensive secondary. It depends on what Zemarian Gordon is supposed to be. I don't know what that position is. MS. I, maybe he's like a, ah like we talked about last week, like a Rover type. Maybe he's like a linebacker safety hybrid, but he's, he's maybe new, but who knows how much, how much he's actually doing in coverage.
00:23:56
Speaker
Correct. Yeah. ah Miles Mooyung is 5'11", 195. Zach Cody is 5'11", 175. I'm pretty sure I was a TV show at one point. Zach and Cody, the Suite Life. Yeah, yeah yeah absolutely. yeah oh Aon Jones, 5'11", 190. Dante Thomas, 5'11", 180.
00:24:16
Speaker
All four of those guys are a similar build. um that That doesn't really give me confidence in the defensive backfield winning one-on-one balls against you know six two receivers.
00:24:28
Speaker
No, they're if they face a a very good, taller receiver, it like you said, six, three, six, four, maybe even taller than that. They're no trouble.
00:24:39
Speaker
They're getting eaten up by, you know, a Christian Fitzpatrick type, you know, from Marshall last year or something like that. I mean, look at look at Cameron Wright. Look on their offensive side. Six, four to ten.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah, he's probably bullying boyfriends. i mean bullying them. Right. um So as we mentioned, ah Shane, Bruce, Wyatt, Gideon, the two ah linebackers coming back for them, ah each in the 230 range. They've got a little bit of fluidity to them when it comes to to making tackles.
00:25:13
Speaker
ah Bruce had 75 tackles in 11 starts last year, including five tackles for a loss. ah Gideon had... 36 tackles and 10 starts, so therere they're going to need him to kind of step up and and do some more than that if they're going to stop the run.
00:25:29
Speaker
I think one of the things that gives me pause on paper, and maybe they deploy him in a way that it offsets the size difference, but it was kind of what we talked about with Troy last week, where they have kind of a light...
00:25:44
Speaker
um three down lineman um jaden bryant the defensive end spot weighing 240 in a three four not not ideal not ideal you should be a outside linebacker you should be a save on mcdowell uh or maybe zavarian gordon or who you know whoever you should be rushing the passer you should not be having your hand in the dirt Well, and maybe that's the the way they're going to look at it is maybe they just go with a two down front.
00:26:19
Speaker
And, you know, you're Jaden Bennett's kind of a stand-up D-lineman edge rusher. um Because, yeah, 6'4", 240, I definitely don't want him going up against a guard.
00:26:31
Speaker
No. That's i mean for sure. their Their tackles alone are 30290. And they're not even, like, the biggest offensive lineman in the conference. Right. ah Again, like maybe maybe what it is, is like like you said, they they put Nesbitt and Gorham Welch hands in the dirt up front, and then you have a combo of McBride or McDowell as your stand-up edge rushers in like a three a traditional 3-4.
00:27:01
Speaker
But that still also has me going, okay, well, what does Zemarian Gordon do exactly? is he dropping out to cover a tight end? is he state you know Is he an extra rusher?
00:27:13
Speaker
Maybe it's all of the above. Maybe that's the answer. Maybe maybe he just does a little bit of everything. Right. So ah Phil Steele in his little um write up that he does, they have 67 new players on the roster this season.
Expectations for the Upcoming Season
00:27:32
Speaker
That's insane. um Again, it says he simplify. It says that Beck is simplifying both sides of the ball to make constant turnover easier. um Okay. I felt like it was pretty simple last year, especially offensively.
00:27:49
Speaker
Beck feels this is his best team in his three years, but they do have a tough schedule.
00:27:57
Speaker
That's some... Okay, Timmy. that's We'll see. That sounds like some spin zone from the the head coach to me. Yeah, we'll see. you know who You know who that reminds me of from last year is when we did talk to Phil Steele, and he said that same thing that Will Hall said about last year's Southern Miss team, and he was basically like, if I can't win with these guys, like I'll be looking for work elsewhere.
00:28:23
Speaker
And you are. Right. that's That's what that seems like to me. yeah so Look, <unk> we're going to dive into the schedule, but talking about the non-conference in Phil's write-up, South Carolina, East Carolina, and Virginia.
00:28:36
Speaker
as it stands right now, Brian, I'm putting all three of those as losses. Yeah. <unk>s It's hard not to, I mean, they don't have, you know, to be Frank, unless MJ Morris or one of these other quarterbacks step up and really surprise people.
00:28:51
Speaker
um There's not a ton here to really bank on to say, Oh, they're definitely going to beat that team. I mean, yeah we were kind of talking about it before we started recording.
00:29:03
Speaker
Here are mine that I, off the top of my head, here here are mine that I think they can win. Charleston Southern. We agree there. East Carolina.
00:29:16
Speaker
I think they could win that one. Maybe. ah ULM. Okay. And Georgia State. i think they I think they have a chance at wins.
00:29:27
Speaker
I think they have a chance at four wins. I don't think they win four games. I think they have a chance at it. I have a hard time. i have a hard time looking at it last year's team and what is what do they have here.
00:29:39
Speaker
What's the win total? Five and a half. Oh, yeah. I'm going under. Yeah. I'm going under. sorry like Sorry, Coastal. it's like No, it's like, sorry, everybody, but there aren't every every year we have teams that go under. Yeah, I mean, hate i hate to be i hate to be the Debbie Downer because I always try to be the the glass half full kind of guy, but therere it's it's going to be tough and in Myrtle Beach this year.
00:30:09
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean, Charleston Southern, maybe East Carolina. I like their i like the that one's at home. ULM, Georgia State, maybe Georgia Southern, maybe. no they they They were not.
00:30:29
Speaker
we You know how Georgia Southern plays so much worse on the road than they do at home? Yeah. They were not close to beating Georgia Southern in Conway last year. Right. That game was like O-V-E-R.
00:30:41
Speaker
i'm taking i'm um'm i'm taking I'm taking the under on five and a half. Right. Yeah. um I think one of the things that gives me a lot of pause, too, is... When you look at their defense over the years, it seems more and more that 2023 was an aberration for them.
00:30:59
Speaker
Because if you look, it's like 2022, guess what? They allowed 31.8 points per game. okay You only had three returning starters, but it's not great. 2023, we're at 23.8 points per game. So that's very good.
00:31:15
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Five starters return, yada, yada, yada, you know, winning record, Grace McCall, what have you. Then last year, we're back to 31.6 per game. So that makes me feel like, especially with the gigantic amount of roster turnover, that's more of the baseline that we're looking at. is like they ah They will allow 30 points per game, it feels like.
00:31:36
Speaker
Unless this extremely small secondary all of a sudden just steps up. If you're giving up 30 points a game, more than likely at best, you're going to be a 500 team.
00:31:47
Speaker
Yeah. And I think that that's getting Tim Beck fired.
00:31:52
Speaker
so So if you had to put a number on it, how many wins do you think they're looking at this season?
00:32:00
Speaker
Realistically, I'm going to say four.
00:32:05
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I'm going to say three. I'm going to say four. I'm going to say Charleston Southern, ULM, Georgia State. Those are my three. as As, you know, solid wins.
00:32:17
Speaker
And then i as it all as it typically happens in the Sun Belt, I feel like they'll win a game that they shouldn't. them four.
00:32:28
Speaker
i will I will get the one I think that is on here that I see that I think they had the best chance to win, frankly. And i never mind East Carolina. i don't know what the I don't know what that team looks like. I don't want to grant them a free win.
00:32:41
Speaker
I think Marshall at home the night before Halloween, I think it's winnable. yeah I think Marshall has has has a ton of roster turnover.
00:32:52
Speaker
I mean, I don't know if you i don't know if you saw this. But when when I posted the odds of who who might win the Sun Belt this year, Marshall was third worst only ahead of ULM and Georgia State.
00:33:04
Speaker
Correct. so it's goingnna be It's going to be a tough year in Huntington. So you can say what you want about, hey, we've got a new coach. We've got a new team in Huntington. And you can say whatever you want about Vegas doesn't look at G5 conferences that close. They still have money on the line.
00:33:23
Speaker
And frankly, if Marshall was actually very good and it was being kept as like this huge secret, I feel like they would have better odds. But where they sit, I mean, Coastal has better odds to win the Sun Belt than they do.
00:33:37
Speaker
so i'm I'm probably going to take East Carolina off the docket and would say maybe maybe you do win that one and you beat Marshall as well and you get to five.
00:33:48
Speaker
But i don't see them I don't see them going bowling. I have a hard time. No, I don't either. So this this was a pretty brief one, but I mean, we we don't have a lot to to kind of hang our hat on. and It's like you guys have a good good offensive line.
00:34:06
Speaker
Skill positions are a big shrug. Quarterback position is a bigger shrug. Running back, you may not even have anybody. We don't know what that looks like. And then defensively, it's like you got ah nose tackle and two linebackers we've seen in Teal before.
00:34:21
Speaker
Correct. And an undersized secondary. I mean, look, yeah if i if I can be proven wrong, then I will come on this podcast and say I was wrong.
00:34:32
Speaker
But... on on paper right now and knowing what I know about this Coastal team, I think they're in a lot of trouble in 2025, just being real.
00:34:43
Speaker
I do too.
Tim Beck's Future at Coastal Carolina
00:34:44
Speaker
And I think, um I think the Tim Beck experiment is going to end up a lot like ah Chip Lindsey and Troy did where it was like, Hey, I hovered around 500 and didn't really do a whole lot. And frankly, people got tired of me and I was out of there before anybody knew it.
00:35:01
Speaker
Correct. um And they'll be looking for, I think they'll be looking for a new head coach sooner than later. um Matt, any final thoughts ah that we haven't gotten to? And if not, go ahead and plug your socials and we'll get out of here.
00:35:14
Speaker
Man, just getting closer and closer to football season. it is It is right around the corner. ah Thinking about the NFL, I mean, God, we've got a preseason football game in two weeks. that is That's nuts to think about.
00:35:26
Speaker
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00:35:36
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00:36:11
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