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Game Journalist Layoffs, Industry Shift Incoming?
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Episode 87, let's gooooooo
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Introduction
00:00:21
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 87 of unqualified game chat. I'm your host Azar Lopez. And with me today is the always moving the Omni present. It's true too. Hmm. Hmm. The fire starter. I am the fire. Yeah. Yeah. All those cool fan made videos like backflips and shit playing that. That's me.
00:00:44
Speaker
Spencer the legacy.
Impact of Fires on New York
00:00:46
Speaker
What's up everybody? I bring that up because Canada is polluting New York. Did I do that? I don't know. I don't know. That's what Urkel would say if he made New York look like a PS1 rendering. It's like in a Spider-Man PS1 game. You couldn't go on the streets because it was a PS1. So they just said, the Green Goblin filled it with gas and you're only on building tops and there's just gas all
00:01:13
Speaker
Is that how they explained it the ps1 gave you I was like some villain I always just wrote it off as this is how games are like this is just Like it's normal. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that happened because no, I think I believe you're right I believe you're right and then with Superman 64 they were just like oh it's a virtual realm So any glitches you see in the virtual world are Lex Luthor's programming
00:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, there's nothing, this isn't real. You're just like, like, let's explain a video game using video game logic. It's so cool. And then it just makes sense after that.
Fire Management in Canada vs California
00:01:48
Speaker
You're like, Oh yeah, I can see, I can see that. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, you need to explain why the spider man's on rooftops, so long ground, but that's fine. So I, we have, um, Bailey and Mark are from New York and they can't go outside right now. That's freaky.
00:02:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's cool. It's not cool. I mean, it's cool that they're doing okay. Yeah, not it's cool that it's not cool that they walk outside there in gastopia. Well, I feel bad that Canada's on fire. I don't know if I, I don't know how equipped Canada is to deal with fires. California has them all the time. So we like, I think we've had fun advise some like plans on how to handle them, even though they happen all the time. But, um,
00:02:32
Speaker
Canada is just like, I don't know how they deal with them. Well, uh, probably not super effectively given New York is a Spider-Man PS1 game, but yeah, just send all the smoke to New York. That's the, yeah, they're more equipped to handle it. So I honestly, I didn't know about any of that until today. Cause, um, we, I know some people in New
Spencer's New Apartment
00:02:56
Speaker
York as well. And, uh, I'm assuming it's Alberta cause there's always fires there and my
00:03:03
Speaker
where I live in Ontario looks completely fine. There's nothing wrong with outside, so I'm assuming it's not here, but I don't know.
00:03:10
Speaker
Well, with that said, Spencer, as you know, this is a podcast that you and I do as recorded every week, hopefully. Yeah, we're trying. We're trying. We're doing better. We're doing better. We know Spencer's a little busy moving, so there wasn't one less. Yeah, you've moved once again. Yeah. Hopefully. This should be it. This should be it. This should be Spencer's
00:03:36
Speaker
man layer for the foreseeable future. She saw me in my comment. So for those wondering, Spencer tweeted out his apartment and I said, uh, Spencer's fuck palace. Yeah. My mom.
00:03:53
Speaker
laughed at that. I don't think she loved it, but she thought it was very funny. I got really hard at it. Well, I'm glad they know that they could see the humor. Yeah.
00:04:07
Speaker
And then I, I did correct it to love palace. True. We got a PG version of PG people come over and I say, uh, we can get to the love making. Just walk by the Spiderman figure display and also the dragon ball Z cabinet. And, um, just, you know, straight into the cool, cool, not nerd room with the one piece flag that one.
00:04:28
Speaker
Yeah, you know what? Ten years ago, I had a room and I decided to, like, weeb it out. Like, there was, like, anime girls, like, half-naked on these posters. I had, like... Did you ever go into the full... Were you ever one of those people with the full hentai figures and, like, glass cabinets?
00:04:51
Speaker
Not anti-figures in glass cabinets, but I did, there were some risque, I had some pretty risque figures. The posters I think were really bad because there's like a lot of cloth posters. I had a couple of those body pillows. I was just going all in. So me as a person in the real world,
00:05:20
Speaker
I don't look like I like that stuff. So girls would be like, Oh, I want to go on a date with this guy. And I'm like, okay, whatever. So we'll go on a date and we'll hang out and we go back to your place. And I would, uh, I'm like, okay. Uh,
00:05:44
Speaker
I tell, okay, so we walk in. What was the disclaimer? I need to know the disclaimer. You gave them at your front door while you're, you pull out your key. So I do ward them. I do ward them. I say, Hey, so I, I do stuff in video games. Like I write for video games and stuff. And sometimes sometimes I do videos. So, so I have like all this like a video game stuff, but it's all ironic. It's like, I just do it. Ironic.
Social Perceptions of Anime and Gaming
00:06:10
Speaker
Just I just do it. I I just do it ironically, but we're got a little out of hand but So The date the dates quickly end When they see my room It's your sleeping in That was the room I was sleeping in so what what I ended up doing was moving all the stuff to the living room and having my room relatively empty
00:06:39
Speaker
And, um, and now in my house, now this room, I have all of my anime stuff here. Not too many video, not too much video game stuff out in the living room or in my room, a couple of posters, a couple of frame posters, a lot of manga, like just hanging around. But other than that, um, you, I just, uh, I hate, I always hated being defined by.
00:07:05
Speaker
by something you know like oh oh you like all you like anime that means you're xyz you know they they try to put you in a box right away no i'm i'm a little more three-dimensional i know i like dragon wasn't also a cool chat
00:07:23
Speaker
Yeah, I I I also play music. I also watch movies. I also, you know, like enjoy cooking. Yeah, like this. That's it. But everybody's everybody's multifaceted. It's it's getting it's getting more acceptable, I guess, to like anime. But I feel like these like streamer kids that are like
00:07:51
Speaker
Oh, into anime? I don't think they... I don't know. I don't know how it became so cool. Like, how literally 15 years ago, I was getting- Of course, you don't believe it. Yeah, I was getting beat up for talking about anime. There's that one tweet where it's like, you weren't beat up for liking anime. You were beat up for being cringy and doing the Naruto. No!
00:08:14
Speaker
No. No. 100% you were beat up for like dumb shit that you like. I think I wore a Gundam shirt one time and it was like a super cool Gundam shirt. I'll even say it's cool now. It was, it was, um, it was heavy arms. It was just heavy arms and I got beat up for it. Yeah. That kind of shit happened all the time. Yeah. You're not fathom it because between like 2010 and like 2016 ish, it became like chic nerd. It was like, whoa.
00:08:43
Speaker
I think, you know what, I think a lot of it was like, it started with Star Wars where like everybody saw Star Wars when it came out. Like my dad, my dad's like the most like sports, like Chad dude ever. And like he, he went to every original Star Wars. So like, yeah. And then I think that really amplified with the MCU.
00:09:02
Speaker
where comic characters were made into digestible movie stories and characters. If you were at school and you're like, oh yeah, Iron Man, that's totally different to say now than it would have been 20 years ago.
Marvel vs Capcom Infinite's Failure
00:09:15
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I think the MCU was a big thing that made it like, oh, well, now you can sneak nerd interests in because they're very profitable and everybody likes these things that were once nerdy. That's what I figure.
00:09:27
Speaker
Yeah. So when I did, so after high school, I did stop playing video games and I did stop liking anime. And I remember like maybe four or five years later that I had a girlfriend and I picked up, I believe Mujin souls and Neptunia on PS3 and I started playing them and I was like, fuck, I think I've missed out on some of this niche crap.
00:09:48
Speaker
They're really bad games, by the way. And like that and like cross-edge, you know, there's these super like niche, very niche games and...
00:10:00
Speaker
And then it opened up doors to like Project Cross Zone, you know, like those, you start, you start seeking out, um, these, these, uh, kind of niche titles and, and having fun with them. I think I was just. How amazing crossover games are at getting. Oh yeah. Yeah. And like.
00:10:22
Speaker
It's insane. Maybe it's just a certain type of person, because I'm definitely not that, but when I was a kid and I played Smash Bros, I'd say, what is this guy from? He's cool. Oh, yeah. Especially the trophies. Yeah. Some of those trophies. Who's this? Because they have all the ones from series that aren't even represented by playable people. Wait, so you'd see one that you know and you'd be like, that's so cool. It's so cool to see fucking Stanley from Donkey Kong 3 in 3D. Or you'd see a character like
00:10:48
Speaker
playable like Martha and Roy or not playable and you'd be like, oh shit, what are they for them? And then like, man, that's why it boggles my mind that the last Marvel versus Capcom fumbled the bag so hard that they haven't made it up. This is like the prime time to make a Marvel crossover fighting game. And it's just, what do you think? What do you think? Why didn't that game do well? I think it was a couple of things. One, the biggest one is a hundred percent.
00:11:16
Speaker
The Marvel Studios was in a weird place where Fox owned the movie rights to the X-Men and they threw out everything, not just games, comics, even comics. There was no X-Men stuff. They were like the inhumans or the new mediums. I think they had Fantastic Four too. Same with Fantastic Four, exactly. The only reason they didn't do it with Spider-Man is because he's literally their number one character. So even if Sony co-own Spider-Man,
00:11:42
Speaker
It's like being like, you can't not put out a Mario game as Nintendo. Like that's insane. So they didn't allow any X-Men characters, but a Marvel versus Capcom game without like Wolverine is insane. And then in addition to that awful PR, I remember there were interviews where the devs were like, well, if you think about it, like characters are more functions than anything. So Magneto has like an eight way air dash function, but so does Nova. So you don't need Magneto. And that made people really mad because you're basically saying,
00:12:12
Speaker
the characters you like in the game, they don't really matter. Anyone can eat them. Great. And then also it was, you know, very visually
00:12:21
Speaker
unpleasant at times that game just didn't have a great lifestyle. Yeah, they went a very strange, hard direction. They even replaced Marvel vs. Capcom. People sleep on it, but it has a really good soundtrack throughout the years. Really good character themes. The Capcom themes are remixes that are really great for each character, and the Marvel ones were really well-made songs.
00:12:43
Speaker
replaced all those with like very MCU orchestral cinematic songs which stunk and then also it just like it was a fun game but it just the roster you can't they reused a lot of characters from the previous one and only a few new characters and the there weren't as many I think Capcom as there were Marvel or the other way around so it's like a lopsided screen it was so many strange little things
00:13:08
Speaker
Uh, it's just such a bummer, but yeah, I have the first, I've only, I have the first one on PS one that I've played. Um, but I, I think the dreamcast version is way better for two specifically is like the most arcade accurate, I think. Yeah. And I think that's what people wanted. I don't know. Uh, back then, for some reason, like the dual shock
00:13:35
Speaker
controller, the original one, uh, was super light. Like it's insanely light. Like it, it's, it's crazy. Just like, what was the comparison? The SNES controller is like, that's like, yeah. And I would compare it even to like the first, um, PlayStation controller without the analog sticks.
00:14:01
Speaker
Yeah. That one's weird. That one's a weird one. It's it's also weird to like play with now in holes and like, how did I, how did I get so far? Like I, I only had that controller, so I couldn't play games like ape escape or anything. Yeah. That was the big one was ape escape. Kind of, kind of fucked us over there. SOTY made it so we can't play your game. It's so funny, but they were just like, here's a new game. You need the new controller. And back then too nuts.
00:14:31
Speaker
So right now we're kind of at a calm before the storm of several gaming events this month.
Evolution of Gaming Journalism
00:14:39
Speaker
And coming up in July, we have Anime Expo pretty early. I don't really want to get into predictions because this episode will come out before.
00:14:50
Speaker
I just want to say that we are aware of Summer Games Fest. And then I believe Final Fantasy 16 is having a, um, like a party thing or something like that, a launch event. Um, which is cool for E3 around now. That's so sad. Yeah. Yeah. It's usually, it was usually at the end of, at the end of, um,
00:15:19
Speaker
June. And I only know because, because Animaxpo is always on the first. So I would go to E3 and I would just stay in LA the extra week, the extra like three or four days and then just start Animaxpo.
00:15:36
Speaker
And everyone would go home, all the journalists would go home. Um, we're also already, I'm doing better now. I'm preparing for PAX West. That's exciting. Um, we got this baller ass Airbnb. That's it's a 15 minute walk from the convention. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. We got, we got six people going, including myself. Uh, Mark's going to be there. So we're going to do some video content. Um,
00:16:05
Speaker
We just put out our PAX East video. Um, it was Patreon exclusive for a while. Yeah. We just put it out today. Um, so I do think you should watch it. If you're listening to this, please watch that video. It's a, it's a lot of fun. You know, when I, when I launched noisy picks or whatever, all I wanted was like a G4, like a new G4 thing.
00:16:29
Speaker
And that's kind of what we go for in those interviews. It's like very casual. They don't have those anymore. They don't have those from the show floor things. Maybe it was a COVID that stopped it.
00:16:42
Speaker
I think I would fuck a lot of shit up with games, media, presentations. Well, and I guess also, um, ease of access because now it's not like you, IGN used to do it show floor stuff, but now IGN just buys a stage and they go to the stage, you know, but I liked the on the floor stuff where the people walked around and they went up to the people, you know, it wasn't scripted. There was no, there was like, I don't know. It just felt.
00:17:12
Speaker
It just felt more gorilla. Yeah, real. You were like, oh, these people are like me.
00:17:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And you just, and you see all the people walking around and stuff and you feel like you're there. Like every single, almost every single games journalist I've ever met was like, I watched E3 on IGN or G4 and that they were on the floor and they were talking to people and I wanted to do that. So it's so weird that that, the thing that inspired everybody is just so rare now. I,
00:17:45
Speaker
I feel sorry for games journalists right now. There's been several site layoffs for big sites.
00:18:00
Speaker
My thing is just get into pop culture. Top 10, top 10 hottest Wolverines. Done. I just paid you rent. It's great. It's like a weird pride thing. It's like, dude, I think it's more pride. I think I'd be more proud to have a job than to, like me personally, I'd rather have a job posting something like that than not be employed. Oh yeah. There's like, there's like a weird, um,
00:18:31
Speaker
thing with like content creator.
00:18:34
Speaker
a video game journalist. I do believe that these websites are receiving less traffic because people would rather go to this place for their- Personalities are bigger than ever. Yeah. This guy's like me, this guy's funny, he's appealing. Whatever this guy I like, or this girl, or this whatever, they appeal to specifically what I like in my preferences in
00:19:03
Speaker
media and stuff. And then you just go, Oh, well, I want to see what they think of it, what they're saying about how they're covering it. And then rather than like the company that I don't think most people with big outlets anymore, like know the names as much. They're not like, Oh, I want to see what Spencer legacy posted on idea, like something I think less than
00:19:23
Speaker
When that's your whole brand is you, then people are like, Oh, I want to see what fucking, I don't know. Um, mega 64 or insert name here. It's a lot more. Yeah. I think personalities have really overtaken that once. Yeah. And it's a nice mix. Cause it's, yeah. Yeah. You get, you get to see the people, you get to kind of get a, get a dose of our personalities. That's that. Okay. So.
00:19:51
Speaker
in like the thirties and forties when, when film was like coming up and people were going to the cinema, um, especially during the silent era of, of film and going into the talkies, um, actors needed to be good at not only acting, but tap dancing, uh, singing, uh, uh, rollerblading, um, you know, all physical stuff. And, and back then they didn't get paid a lot.
00:20:21
Speaker
They're probably like the bottom of the barrel for who got paid during those times and overtime they got paid more but i feel like that's what it takes to be a journalist now not only do you have to write well but you have to have a great personality you have to have charisma you have to have.
00:20:42
Speaker
Opinions on everything you have to you have to have the skills and technology to edit videos to create videos to record game play me jack of all trades pretty much by default now.
00:20:57
Speaker
It's, and if you're, and if you're not, then any, and your only outlet is writing. That's where the, that's where it's like, okay. Spenan's a standard. I think that's what it's called. We can't wear many hats. Gets, gets your hand in all. I've just heard. So you have all these great writers that are unemployed now and
00:21:25
Speaker
And you know, and I, as an independent site, I can't afford them. I can afford someone out of college that are there, that's trying to get into the gaming industry. So it's like, Oh shit. Yeah. I want to help you. But on top of that, like, I have to think about also paying my staff. And you gotta be able to do more than just right. Like, you gotta be able to do it all if you're getting paid because everybody else can.
00:21:55
Speaker
Yeah, it's entering the industry able to do all that. So you got to catch up. It's it sucks because you're a few people that I know are really good writers and they have some really nice feature pieces. And but you know what, like nobody wants to read anymore. Nobody, nobody has to have a paragraph. Yeah, no one. And
00:22:21
Speaker
Watching a video is easier for them. And I honestly don't blame people. I don't subscribe to a lot of YouTube channels, like personal YouTube channels, but I do. Everything on my YouTube homepage is just kind of provided for me. And I rely on that algorithm, but there's very little for that, for like written content.
00:22:51
Speaker
It's true. I think it's the middle of a transition period where it's just kind of uncomfortable to adjust, but I think soon enough, that'll be the standard. It's doing everything, doing all pretty well, having a personality. I mean, there'll always be a place for writing, obviously, but it's definitely shrunk.
00:23:17
Speaker
It's now a piece of the pie. You gotta be able to bake the rest
Struggles with Game Commitment
00:23:22
Speaker
too. You know, it really saddens me about the way that we have to be to run this kind of place is that we can only be surface level on
00:23:38
Speaker
everything we can. There's no time to be anything else. Guide writers, they write guides so they can play one game for a month and that's it. They don't have to worry about writing stupid articles, 10 articles a day plus editing videos. They just play one game.
00:23:58
Speaker
I'm only surface level good at all the games that I play. I don't have the time to invest in and mastering it. Diablo four is a great example. It's like, that was a game that I wanted to just enjoy and I haven't been able to. And I'm, and I'm looking at games like, um, there's a new aliens game coming out.
00:24:22
Speaker
Um, and that's a game that I wanted to, um, kind of just learn and invest and develop strategies on. And I don't think I'm going to be able to it. It's kind of a bummer. My sister said to me, cause my sister's obviously not involved in like the game industry or anything. She has a.
00:24:40
Speaker
She's the most like grown up of us where she's like in medical stuff and everything. So she was, but she played Zelda and she was like, Oh, did you do this? Like in this place? And I was like, I don't even know where that place is like continentally. I don't, you're three layers ahead. Like I have no, I can't, I'm just trying to go. And it's such a bummer that like, but I mean, that's just kind of how, you know, if you want to cover games, you gotta get the, the,
00:25:09
Speaker
Get what you can, get what you need is more accurate, I guess. And then the next one's out. So the trails series, like legend of heroes and all those, like I'm just surface level knowledgeable on them, you know, like, and those are games that I want to, I want to play. And I don't know, man. Years ago, when we started this podcast, you said we were talking about his attorney and I, I was like, you got to play them. And you're like,
00:25:37
Speaker
I don't think I will ever have the time. And I get that so much now because I'm just like all the time when stuff comes out, I'm like, oh, you know, eventually I'm going to be unemployed, whether I'm retired and 40 years old. So either way, you know, when I'm unemployed and I have some money put away and I can take a little bit of time to just
00:25:58
Speaker
catch up. You know, I look forward to that's like the promised land in the future. But dude, I have I have so many unopened switch games just waiting for me to turn 40 about Marvel Midnight Suns. They came out and I love Marvel comics and I was stoked and I have installed it three times. And each time a new review game came out and I was like, there's no room on the hard drive. And I just kept deleting it. Are you reviewing? Are you reviewing a game right now?
00:26:27
Speaker
I just finished Street Fighter for Embargo, so right now I don't think I am, but Final Fantasy is the next big one. That you're reviewing? I'm on it. We haven't gotten anything yet. Okay. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah, the only thing I could talk about with Final Fantasy is what I played at the preview event. You're pretty high on it.
00:26:51
Speaker
Yeah, I keep thinking about it. So it's just one of those games. Yeah, I can't wait. But that's, uh, that sucks that you're reviewing it though, because now you can't just like, I don't know if I am, but again, it's also a time thing. I need, I need to like, I need to just kick everyone out of
00:27:15
Speaker
of my, of my room, not turn off my, I need to turn off my phone. I'm going to order a pizza. I'm going to get a nice Coke zero and I'm going to fucking play in Canada. Zero. Oh yeah. Oh, we have, we have cream. We have zero co zero sugar. Cream is not fair. Yeah. It's like nothing. That's so, but we didn't even get the fucking red Spiderman burger. This is a shithole.
00:27:43
Speaker
I would have probably that, but it sounds interesting. Well, I want the option. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, I'm going to do the same thing with Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is such like a series where it's just like, that's my, that's my shit. That's just right. Yeah. Take, drink all the energy drinks you need, but sit down and enjoy it. This chair. That's the chair. Eevee. That's TV. Giant pizza on that table. Yep. I'm going to.
00:28:11
Speaker
So I can sit there for 72 hours and I'm going to feel really uncomfortable going back to work because my stomach's going to hurt. Oh, I love it. Very little. Oh, I love it. It's going to rock. It is. It is. But the adventures and the stories that you're going to develop on the way, that's all that matters, Mr. Legacy. That's all that matters. It's at this point, I'm not reviewing it for the website. I'm not reviewing it for Noisepix. I'll tell you that.
00:28:41
Speaker
So I'll just say, so, and I haven't played it past the first two hours from that preview event. Um, so I just want to disclaimer that so that no one's thinking that I'm like saying things that are happening further. Um, that even if the game is bad.
00:28:59
Speaker
I'm still going to have a great fucking time. I did the same with Final Fantasy 15. I get it. I get, I get where you, I get your criticisms. I understand, but by God, when I was playing that fucking game, I was hanging out with my dudes. I was cooking. I was fucking going, going fishing. I was taking out some dungeons. I was
00:29:23
Speaker
time and I just I used to sleep. I was just going to class. I played fantasy 15 for like 14 hours. I would sleep for like an hour, two hours, go to class or come back or just play fantasy 15. I lived I lived that I lived that world. I lived that world. We talked like we're like 60. Yeah, I'm like 26. I'm going to be 27 in August.
00:29:50
Speaker
The cup the cup noodles I'm cool. I was cool with it. I was fine with it. There's a little silly little silly but you know, that's the natural progression of Like high school middle school. We don't have middle school, but yeah going to your friend's house You each get a big bag of chips and a huge coke and you're like, let's play fucking Pokemon XD all fucking night
00:30:16
Speaker
That's the other, the other night, um, my friends and I, uh, it was like Friday night, maybe, uh, friends and I were out drinking. Um, they're not gamers, but we come back at 11. We're pretty pretty tipsy. Um,
00:30:33
Speaker
So I decided to put on Cool Borders 4. And we played Cool Borders 4. It was the coolest fucking time ever. Yeah, and Twisted Metal 4. Yeah, Cool Borders 4 and Twisted Metal 4. I don't have a multi-tap for Twisted Metal stuff, but Twisted Metal 2, the split screen's pretty nice. I mean, it's not bad.
00:30:56
Speaker
Yeah, so we played that and and they don't really play games but those types of games are just so like Yeah, so that was that was fun that was rock moment yeah, I really twisted metal for it like 2 a.m. I
00:31:15
Speaker
It is like you, we talk about like nostalgia and stuff, but I, I do look for those moments and I do like, it makes me feel so, um, happy because the rest of my life is bills, uh, work, um, deadlines. Um, it's good to just fucking forget that.
00:31:42
Speaker
Yeah, and remember when like the tiniest shit rocked? I remember I got a PlayStation 1 demo disc and I was so hyped because it had an X-Men Mutant Academy 2 demo and I would just, it had like three characters and probably a time limit and I would just play it over and over and I'd be like, this is the fucking life, this rocks.
Nostalgic Gaming Memories
00:31:59
Speaker
And now I have every option in the world. And I'm just like, I wish I could reclaim going. I can play Cyclops every fucking morning before school. This rocks. Like, uh, I completely get that. It's, uh, man. And again, I'm 26 as I'm, as I'm saying this, like, you have, you have plenty of time. Your life is only going to get better from here. That's very optimistic. Yeah. Yeah. Because when I was 26. Yeah.
00:32:30
Speaker
Last year, right? You're my 27 year old bro. I'm 34. When I was 26, I think I had just graduated college and it was a bad time.
00:32:47
Speaker
a lot of my bad times out of the way from age 17 to 26. And I'm hoping we're keeping it higher now. Yeah. I think the worst of it was I was $40,000 in debt. Yeah. Yeah. And it was all like credit card debt too, because like, since I couldn't work while I was in college, I had to just like use my credit card every month to like pay rent and shit. And, uh,
00:33:11
Speaker
And here you are now. You know what? You make a couple of sacrifices. If you've listened this far, then you're a real one. You're a real one. You're a real one. What I did, and I don't advise, it's not for everybody.
00:33:25
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but I lived in my car for a while. Yeah, I lived in my car. I decided, you know what? You gotta do what you gotta do. The debt companies want you to stay in debt. There's no incentive for them to assist you. They want you to pay, but they don't want you to stop paying. You stop paying when you've paid it off. Exactly. They'd rather you just always be paying something.
00:33:53
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So it was tough. I mean, I've always been pretty fine with being uncomfortable though. But I know that's not for everybody.
Personal Struggles and Resilience
00:34:03
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Like the moment somebody feels uncomfortable, they get really like anxiety or anxious, I should say. So it's not for everybody, but I'm one to just roll with the...
00:34:23
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If you're not hurting anybody, there's like no shame in just doing what you have to do to get by. Yeah. Yeah. And then you said otherwise has led a very cool, easy life. If they never had to be like, this fucking sucks and I have to do it.
00:34:38
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I think listeners, the way Spencer and I do get along is that we're both from that same realm where we do deal with our shit, but you don't see our shit online. We should be literally anxious 24 hours a day. Oh, yeah. We're having fun right now, but life sucks. We get it. We're not here to make you believe that. I was so excited to eat pizza and play Final Fantasy.
00:35:05
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The little things excited us. We're not here celebrating like the, the, that our lives are so great. And no, no, it's not, it's not like that. When, when this webcam goes off and we go over things, I make a frozen pizza and then I do. Yeah. I'm going to be, I'm going to be editing videos for the rest of the night. So there, that's my night. This is definitely.
00:35:29
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What that said, this is the episode. Yeah. That was a pretty good one. With all that life advice from us for you guys for free. Yeah. We didn't have any trajectory for this episode, but I'm happy where it turned out. You know what? I think this was an all-timer. So take that, Jeff. We're the real ones. Yeah. Sorry to spend too fast. Have fun making everyone believe that you're a real gamer, Jeff.
00:35:59
Speaker
I'll throw a chain. You know what? I was at a digital preview event the other day, and Jeff was in there, and everyone was like sucking his dick in there. And I was like, what? It's in chat. We're just in chat, and everyone's literally like sucking his dick. And I'm like, ugh, I gotta chill. Too punk rock for that. I will say that I'll give him kudos where he didn't- He's really cool, and if he wants to hire me- Well, he didn't really like,
00:36:28
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reciprocate the, the comments and stuff. He was just, he was like, let's go to the game. Like he was more rooting on the game than addressing the people that were sucking his dick. So I, it's everybody's doing it. You don't even notice. It's like, I thought, I thought that was cool.
00:36:49
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Yeah, that is cool. That rocks. Yeah. Kudos to the Jeffster. Yeah. So as a Jeff critic, you know it's true that I'm being honest. I got no issue with Jeff. He's fine. He's fine. He looks kind of sad sometimes. I hope he's not sad or anything. Yeah, he does look kind of sad sometimes. I hope that he's doing well.
00:37:12
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Game industry is tough. No matter what side of the fence you're on. If he can pull it off, Godspeed, Jeff. Well, bye. Bye, everyone.