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PAX East, Ramen Economics, and Indie Love
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This week on Unqualified Game Chat, I talk about my recent trip to PAX East, the madness of trying to cover 47 games with a lean crew, and the anxiety (or lack thereof) that came with it. Spencer and I dive into the pressure of playing demos in front of devs, the value of indie game coverage, and why waiting for a sale might just be the smartest move in modern gaming. Plus, I share the chaotic journey I endured to get back home from Boston, complete with mechanical delays, missed flights, and a $500 United voucher. As always, we mix real talk with ramen recipes and nostalgia bombs.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:21
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 114 of Unqualified Game Chat. I am your host, Azara Lopez, and with me today is the green looks good on him, Spencer, the Legacy.
00:00:37
Speaker
Hello, don't chroma key out my shirt so I'm just a floating head. Add the SpongeBob, big SpongeBob on there. are One of those hentai girls with their tongues out. yeah, don't do that. You degenerates.
00:00:49
Speaker
I don't want Hey, is that a new, in the background there, is that Fire Emblem Fates Super Special Edition? yeah Yeah, yeah, it is. I just, I just put it out.
00:01:01
Speaker
Just maybe, maybe someone will notice. I was like, wait minute. I recognize that. I played all three of those. it It's unopened. I got it to flex on nerds. Yeah. It's the only physical version with revelation. Yeah. what You. well,
00:01:17
Speaker
oh maybe Maybe one day you can come over and I'll let you open it. And then wow we can smell the packaging together. We can smell the packaging. We can say, hey, yeah you guys can't play this. You guys can't play this.
00:01:27
Speaker
I have an unopened copy. I have an unopened copy Avalon Code on DS as well. and hello I would love to open that with you and then smell the inside. Steamy.
00:01:39
Speaker
Give it a nice whiff. It's getting romantic in here. I'm really speaking to your heart right now. Yeah, opening packages. You weren't expecting this love bomb. I wasn't. This is love.
00:01:53
Speaker
well oh Hello, everyone.
Podcast Overview and Schedule
00:01:56
Speaker
i'm I've been meaning to do this on the top of the show every time, but Unqualified Game Chat is a weekly podcast posted to Patreon every Thursday.
00:02:07
Speaker
We try to hit every Thursday. so some sometimes Sometimes we don't. Sometimes we do. But it is on Patreon, and it's ah available a week early for Patreon subscribers before it goes up on our YouTube channel if you have a question or comment be sure to let us know in the comments and we'll likely get to it here um on patreon you can comment there as well yeah and that's that's my spiel you did at the beginning this time that's good i'm getting you know it took me 114 episodes you got there got this long study wins the race
00:02:40
Speaker
it Maybe it takes me 114 episodes to get professional because people actually listen to this now. Yeah. I really. at the beginning, there was like no one. Now there's a whole big number. I could talk all this shit
Covering PAX: Strategies and Challenges
00:02:53
Speaker
I wanted. ah I went to PAX last week. It's true.
00:02:59
Speaker
It was was. That's the reason why we we missed last week's episode. And I was very sorry. You were sick? I was. i have bad cold, but it's mostly gone now.
00:03:12
Speaker
I hope you feel better. Thank you. Pax. I might get sick from Pax. Who knows that the Pax flu is always a lingering, you know, you're like, Oh, I survived. And then the next weekend comes and you, you're flat out. You're flat out. um It was a lot of fun.
00:03:34
Speaker
Pax this year. um i think. The way that because, okay, so you can focus on anything you want at PAX. You can focus on previews where you just go around to every station playing games.
00:03:49
Speaker
On that, I don't like doing that anymore. um Usually because you'll get like 15 appointments,
00:04:01
Speaker
fifteen appointments it's almost impossible to cover all 15 games that you preview, whether you don't take good enough notes or you didn't have enough time to actually form an opinion about whatever you played.
00:04:14
Speaker
And then there's the opposite of you're playing 15 20 different games and you're not allowed time to like actually know the controls or you're like pressing random stuff.
00:04:25
Speaker
I don't know how you do you get like that? Like you kind of forget the controls of yeah sometimes, especially you combine like time zone differences. You you might be tired. You just flew in here. You're not used to to the game. It might be a different console than the one that you use by standard.
00:04:40
Speaker
so you're like, oh, it's a it's a lot of things that are combined into some embarrassing moments. The developer's like looking over your shoulder the entire time you're playing too. Yeah, that's true. It's pretty weird. It's a pretty surreal experience. Yeah.
00:04:55
Speaker
and And so if you mess up, it kind of hurts. It kind of hurts more because the developer saw it and you don't want to make them think that i don't know, they made a bad game or something. don't know. <unk> where i'm always like I always say, I'm like, oh man, i'm I'm sucking. I'm always trying to make sure they know they they are they're not like, oh no, we should have designed that to be more clear for Dunderheads like this guy.
00:05:18
Speaker
I'm always just like, oh man, that jet lag. o That's killing I say, can you put it on journalistic mode for me?
00:05:26
Speaker
Yeah, that's ah that's what you got to do. Because because you know it's not their fault. It's my fault. it's and you have And there's a bit of pressure to like, oh, I have a limited time. Oh, I... yeah and And because it usually takes place on their booth, there's tons of other people yes who want to play this game. Sometimes you cut them in line and it's... it's Again, it's weird.
00:05:52
Speaker
It's weird. um Yeah. Whenever you cut, there is pressure. cause Because they're like, press guys. that Sorry, press is going. And then everyone's like, oh. And then you're like... Oh shit.
00:06:03
Speaker
They're going watch and be like, this guy's ahead of me. Yeah, that's what it is. they're now they're Now they're all judging you. Now you have to now you have to play the game. It's time to play the game.
00:06:15
Speaker
ah love that guy. love the videos of that guy. Mark, co-owner of Noisy Pixel, did a music video with that guy. I think it's available. I think it's out somewhere right now. I'll share it with you, Spencer. I'll see where it's at. Okay, perfect. Yeah, he met him.
00:06:29
Speaker
Kind of fun. um So that's the one way that's the way I used to cover packs. And it didn't always work because I would only cover about five of the 20 games I played or 15 played.
00:06:41
Speaker
Um, then I tried just doing B roll and doing like really surface level previews, video previews of the game. So every, every place I went to, i would capture, I would bring my capture card. This is years ago.
00:06:56
Speaker
um They still kind of allow that now, but now a lot of PR people just say, we have 10, 15 minutes of B-roll for you. like Usually they they come with it, and I don't have to capture anything. Or USB or something.
00:07:08
Speaker
Yeah. um So ah i like that way I liked that way for a while, and I still technically like that that approach, but the show floor coverage um what that we do that's kind of G4E and stuff like that, it's It's very much one or the other. I can't do both. I can't do the capture and all the things and then also do the interviews because you have a team of people now that's walking around with you. you have four people now, um and including me, going booth to booth to do these interviews.
00:07:44
Speaker
And it doesn't work if I'm playing the game and just have three people off to the side just kind of like waiting for me, you know? it's Yeah. It's very counterintuitive to, but to getting stuff done because realistically the, the good approach would be if someone else was recording all all the capture, doing all the capture, going from station to station to capture. And I just went by myself with the camera crew around.
00:08:09
Speaker
That would be ideal, but we don't have, we didn't, we didn't have the budget for more staff writers at, at this event. Um,
Improving Show Floor Interviews
00:08:15
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but we, we made it work. We made it work. Um, I would say that this year we have really um perfected the show floor interview scene in terms of entertainment, in terms of which games to highlight, in terms of walking the show floor and showing off the event to people.
00:08:38
Speaker
This is like our way of getting people who don't have access to have access. I mean, Spencer, you didn't you didn't get to go to PAX.
00:08:48
Speaker
But I do know, i do feel like this video will make you feel like you did. Oh, wow, a little virtual tourism. maybe Maybe we'll have Spencer write the forward for the video. Do they do that for videos?
00:09:02
Speaker
Do they do that? Like a beautiful narration like David Attenborough. I've always wanted to walk a show floor. Many Arcade Expo. What a noble moon adventure.
00:09:16
Speaker
It allowed me to walk the show floor like never before. And I saved on airfare. i say And at food. Jesus Christ, Boston. You need chill out without food prices.
00:09:28
Speaker
God damn. Is it bad now? Boston's got expensive food? It's a lot of fish. There's lot of fish. But I'm black vegetarian. and It's really bad in that area. Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:41
Speaker
It's really bad in that area. It's just the harbor. It's the rich, rich people area. Traffic sucks. Everything. Everything sucks. It rained only one day. um But please expect like um some really cool bits and interviews that we did um at Seattle. I had i had a tough time trying to really figure out like how to do this and i was really hard on myself but to the point where i got a couple anxiety attacks last pax west and um that's all been well documented we all know we all know oh but uh but um i didn't feel ounce of that at pax east um
00:10:34
Speaker
i It's going to sound a little a little um lame, I guess, or lowbrow.
Supporting Independent Gaming Media
00:10:44
Speaker
But I will say that it was the gamers that ah that really motivated me do my best. Your secret power was the gamers. My secret power, yeah. um A few people while walking by yelled out like noisy pixel and stuff. and um we're showing we're showing up and i will it for for readers who who do have access who do care about the industry i will say they're they're noisy pixel sites like noisy pixel uh monster vine gamatsu to to in in that same breath um silicon era site i don't know and maybe not even silicon era because they're owned by like gamers or something um
00:11:32
Speaker
But independent media, I think, but do do take a moment out of your week or day or anything to just like scroll an independent website.
00:11:43
Speaker
Read the news that they have. figure out Give yourself a chance to figure out if maybe therere um they can fit into your, um you ah I don't know,
00:11:56
Speaker
like When i was when i was reading gaming web websites, I would have like a list. I would go IGN, GameSpot, Operation Rainfall, Siliconera, Monstervine.
00:12:10
Speaker
There's a few others that I would go to. Gamatsu. You'd the sites that you would check. Yeah. And then you would just go down that line. It, it, it worked really well when I was in college between classes and I would just do it between classes. I would just read when the daily fix was on, you know, and IGN was like, IGN was good about that shit.
00:12:28
Speaker
Um, so, uh, so I, I would do that. So I, I think other people but have that same like triage in their head too. So I would say, um, expand maybe your, um,
00:12:42
Speaker
your echo chamber a little bit to include other independent sites that are really killing it right now. um Because we need we need to, I think, creating a nice symbiotic circle of valuable niche coverage of indie games and just because we don't just cover like the $80 games. And I feel like that's, that's the trouble with GameSpot and IGN is that theyre they're only allowed to really cover big games. None of the the time or manpower to check out the small, not like the indie games that aren't like cop had where it's like, Whoa, the big indie game.
00:13:24
Speaker
It's like the more like the visual novels. yeah I would be surprised if IGN covers any $10, $15 games. Unless they go viral.
00:13:38
Speaker
And that's something as as like money gets tighter, I think those reviews are going to do far better. Yeah, 100%. I think people will wait. I don't see gamers buying those $80 games launch anymore.
00:13:54
Speaker
ah games at launch anymore Maybe Nintendo games. They don't go down in price, huh? They never go down. I miss Nintendo Selects so bad. Yeah, I'll take a red case, an ugly red case. $20. Yeah, $20 and you can play Link Between Worlds. You can play Animal Crossing City Folk. you can oh so cheap. So nice.
00:14:13
Speaker
Luigi's Mansion 2. two Did you get a switch to pre-ordering? No, I'm too broke. But a i'm ah I'll get one down the line. you know I am too, but I do this thing where I just eat ramen for a month.
00:14:26
Speaker
And that usually pays for whatever gross thing that I don't need. Ramen's good. if you you know You throw the eggs in there. Yeah, yeah you got to after a week of straight ramen, you gotta play with it a little bit.
00:14:43
Speaker
like You mix up the flavor. You got beef. You got chicken. got maybe some bulldack if you want to do an expensive ramen. Four cheese bulldack. I like to put that kimchi in there.
00:14:56
Speaker
o A little bit of kimchi on there. Fancy. Fancy. So good. um Yeah. Definitely get creative with the ramen or turn it into a chow mein. Yeah.
00:15:07
Speaker
True. You can get a Costco rotisserie chicken. Throw some of the chicken in the ramen. Oh.
00:15:15
Speaker
$7.99 in Canada for a rotisserie chicken from Costco. It's pretty good. I think $5.99 here. Yeah, there you go. That's a loss leader right there. Yeah. if it if you know it yeah yeah that With these prices, I just don't know who's... like Fuck, dude.
00:15:33
Speaker
I don't know. I was watching this. like i I think they were saying that... like less than 20% of gamers buy more than one game a year or something like that. Like there's some like low statistics on, on gaming and it, well, it kind of makes sense because there's so many freaking people in this world, I guess.
00:15:55
Speaker
yeah Like that's why when we have competition, I think competition is fine um because there is so many, much people in this world. Yeah. like i think i think I think there's room for a monster vine to exist and in the same breath, a Gamatsu and a noisy pixel. you know like That's why all of these little sites can exist because- There's so much out there.
00:16:19
Speaker
Yeah. and Some are doing better than others, but I think what these sites bring unique is is coverage of of cheaper games essentially and yeah and more niche experiences that Maybe you have to fill in the blanks when you play them. Maybe they're a little... Maybe the story isn't super focused. I don't know.
00:16:44
Speaker
I think... I think in my time coming, i i always I always reevaluate the way that I approach indie games. And something that's kind of weighing on me right now is the indie game that is created as a student project to to get good at a skill and then get hired somewhere else. So you'll see like these indie games that are just like, why why is anyone why is someone marketing this? like It just looks like a little Fall Guys fighter or something like that.
00:17:12
Speaker
And it's clearly just a ah developer's first game that they can use as their resume. And I'm trying to, I respect, i will cover those games, but I'm trying not to review them so much because the review is just going to be a six or seven.
00:17:26
Speaker
It's just going to be me shitting on the game. Yeah. um So that doesn't work. i'm I'm being more aware. I'm being more aware of like those student projects as I, as I get deeper down the, um the indie hole, but I said this about GDC.
00:17:45
Speaker
There are so many fucking indie games out there. There are so many video games and PAX is like, we didn't cover everything. i think we, I think we had like 47 meetings. We had like, it was, it was a lot.
00:18:01
Speaker
It was a lot. And there was still more that we could have seen. Um,
00:18:09
Speaker
and it's And it's weird because you look online and the in some corners of this industry, you'll see a lot of negativity. And another part I want to like ah highlight more is the positive side. you know like These are fucking video games.
00:18:25
Speaker
yeah and Everyone's always like shaming people and waving their finger. And I'm like, I guess, but also video games. you know Yeah, made for fun.
00:18:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I don't know. we'll see what We'll see what happens. But I think right now in in terms, and i don't know how you're approaching your coverage of games. I know you just put out a review, didn't you? Of Capcom.
00:18:50
Speaker
ka Oh, yeah. That was today, huh? That was today. yeah Yeah, forgot. I was editing the video right before this call. Yeah. was just warning. Yeah, no, that's, I love Power Stone.
00:19:03
Speaker
So I was really excited. I love Power of Stone. I love Capcom versus SNK too. So I was, this was called the collection where I was like following up the Marvel versus Capcom collection with this. Ooh, baby.
00:19:15
Speaker
o what a good one, two punch. You did a Oblivion remastered too. I read that review the other day. Yeah, that was, uh, they, they did it. They had a pretty deserved jank in that janky game.
Game Review Approaches: Consumer Focused?
00:19:29
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said, Oh, they better not change the jank. And Todd Howard said,
00:19:33
Speaker
I'm not going to change the jank, but it works beautifully. So I'm glad like that saying that is like, like I would suggest listeners to read some, read Spencer's reviews to really understand his voice outside of this yeah um podcast and, and my reviews. i think, I think I'm a little, I think I tried to approach reviews now more from like, should you buy this?
00:20:03
Speaker
You know, should you buy this now? Can you wait? And I'm trying to enter, I'm trying remind gamers as much as I can. You don't need to buy this right away.
00:20:14
Speaker
You don't like being a conversation, being, being a part of the conversation is not feasible anymore. I would, I would suggest waiting on a cell for everything, to be honest with the way updates go.
00:20:26
Speaker
Like, um, You play with all the DLC and stuff after yeah once the game's been out for a bit. i just I just like to stress that like get the get the games you need. And in that same breath, like that's why websites like this exist.
00:20:46
Speaker
There's a ton of indie games. No one has any money, us included. That's true. ah and so But we still want to play video games. And we still want to play unique video games. My big example is...
00:20:58
Speaker
i raved Last year I raved about Star Wars Outlaws. I probably wouldn't have if I played it at launch because it had all those issues. I played it months after launch and it had all the fixes and a bunch DLC and I had a great time. so it's like if Waiting can be positive in the modern gaming landscape because like shit's going to get fixed. like it's a There's no harm to waiting.
00:21:24
Speaker
and like Unless it's like a multiplayer game, in which case you might It might die if you don't play it fast enough. and Have you ever bought an Ultimate Pass DLC that lets you get all the updates that come out?
00:21:40
Speaker
like You buy it at launch. It's $30, and then you're promised the next three updates. two season passes Yeah, the season shit. Have you ever done that? Yeah, I've gotten those before, yeah. For what?
00:21:51
Speaker
I did it when Marvel vs. Capcom 3 came out. I got the version that came with the DLC. Same with... It's typically fighting games or like Persona 3 Reload. I got the the the answer thing. Oh, that's a good buy.
00:22:08
Speaker
Yeah. yeah So it's typically things where it's like a story or characters where I'm like, I know for a fact that I will return to this for this. That's like the best way to do it because I remember the last time I bought one of those season passes was um Bioshock Infinite.
00:22:25
Speaker
I feel like ah feel like I was a little let down by a few of those updates. And I think the last one wasn't even what we asked for or something like that. yeah I've heard that. Like ah a rapture you'll see a thing or something.
00:22:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that was the last one I bought. And I was like, man, I wanted to like, I don't know what I was expecting. I was younger back then. yeah times Times were different. Times were different. It was a different time. That was a, Bioshock Infinite was a long time ago now. I was in high school.
00:22:53
Speaker
It's scary. The next events are Summer Games Fest and Anime Expo. Ooh. but Both events I'll be at, and um hopefully Spencer will be at one.
00:23:08
Speaker
I might be at Summer Game Fest. We'll see. i got to figure that out. Fingers crossed. If not, he's going to he he he he promised a PAX West appearance, so you'll see him in our show floor coverage. We'll give him in a bit.
00:23:20
Speaker
We'll do an unqualified bit. Yeah. um Yeah, other than that, i'm a little i'm I'm a little exhausted right now, so I think... I imagine. Yeah, dude. we Oh, so I guess I can end this ah call with or this podcast with ah the hell that I went through to get home on Monday after PAX.
Travel Woes Post-PAX
00:23:46
Speaker
So I was supposed to board at 5 p.m. on Boston to get back home. there was a layover for, for an hour in Chicago.
00:23:57
Speaker
So go to Chicago. think flights are dangerous That's always, always risky. this ah this um it's just, my city is just not that city that gets, um, so, so I get on, I get on the plane five o'clock and, uh, pull out, uh,
00:24:18
Speaker
It starts, ah they stop on the tarmac and they're like, hey, we have an AC issue on one of the ACs. We're getting a mechanic down here. It was delayed for an hour and 20 minutes on the tarmac. i was just We're just sitting there. Hour and 20 minutes. So that hour layover um got smaller and smaller and Chicago. And when we landed, we had about 15 minutes that we could have ran to that next gate and then and got on the plane.
00:24:47
Speaker
But when we landed in Chicago, there was a plane in at our gate. Oh, no. Stuck there another 40 minutes. Oh, no. So I missed my flight to Chicago.
00:24:58
Speaker
missed my flight home from Chicago. And I look at my phone, and they update... They updated my ticket to 830 a.m. the next day with a connection flight in Texas. And then I go home again.
00:25:11
Speaker
So I leave it. it and And so I wouldn't get home until Tuesday on one at one thirty. And I said, fuck that. Not going to do something crazy.
00:25:22
Speaker
Do something. going to do something only Zario would do. So I call United and they're and there's like 15 minutes before nine, which a plane is leaving um for San Francisco.
00:25:36
Speaker
So I called them and I was like, hey, can you get me on this plane? They got me on the plane. So I run. I run. i get They're closing the doors and i get on them I get on the plane and just in time.
00:25:48
Speaker
and sit down. so We're sorry. ah We got a light issue. We got a mechanic coming down. Delayed another hour 50 fucking minutes. Okay, so let me preface.
00:26:00
Speaker
This plane is not going to my home. This plane is going to San Francisco, which is almost three hours away from my home. It's now 9 p.m. I called and requested a car to rent a car from San Francisco so I could drive it home when I get there.
00:26:15
Speaker
But the place closes at 12. Well, we're supposed to get there at 11.20. eleven twenty But not anymore because we just got delayed an hour and a half. So I don't end up getting to San Francisco until 2 a.m. You go to the car rental. Car rental place is closed, but there is another car rental place there.
00:26:32
Speaker
And so I rent a car and I drive home. Also, baggages aren't in San Francisco. they're they're they're oh They're being sent to my house. They are being sent to my house. or to my um They were being sent to the airport by my house. um And I picked those up on Tuesday.
00:26:54
Speaker
But then I drove home and got home at like 5.30 a.m. Oh, my God. That's a real... that's all I've had that exact shit happen. That sucks. i was But no part of my body was going to fucking stay the night in Chicago. I'll tell you what.
00:27:09
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. that's i mean You that just you you stood up for yourself. You got yourself. It didn't work out because everyone else delayed you to.
00:27:21
Speaker
Waking up to the cast of Shameless like ah doing some maintenance or cleaning the airport. And I'm just like, what's going on? You know, like we're already there yet. ah Oh, I forgot. I'm in Chicago. So handled lame,
00:27:35
Speaker
so they handled it i very very lame but kept my cool and, um, I kept, kept, uh, guy. Yeah.
00:27:46
Speaker
It sucked. It's cause I had, I still had work in the morning. yeah So I, that was another reason why I had to get home. Cause I did have work and, um, yeah, it was, uh, it was an experience.
00:27:59
Speaker
Just keep trying the, the moral of the story, never give up, never give up. Always try your best. Yeah. Be your own advocate. of Yeah. be ah b b Be the change you want to see in the airport system. yeah oh but Oh, also United, I complained to them. You bet your ass I complained to them.
00:28:21
Speaker
And I got ah two $500 vouchers. Wow. I complained to WestJet last year and I still haven't given me anything about PAX.
00:28:34
Speaker
Really? Yeah. they need Dude, you want me to call them? I'm going call them for you, Spencer. I will call them for you, Spencer. I'm calling on behalf of my clients. Spencer is not official lawyer, but for this call.
00:28:49
Speaker
For this call, I'm his representative. and We are very disappointed. and So good luck to anyone traveling out there. Traveling sucks right now in the U S. Um, there's an event next week that I decided just, I'm going drive to as well. There's a press event happening next week. And I was like, Hey guys, can you cancel my tickets? I'm just going to drive.
00:29:08
Speaker
and there's ah And this is at the end of the episode.
Preferences on Funding Travel to Events
00:29:12
Speaker
i feel kind of weird right now. I don't know why, but I've been feeling kind of weird about accepting, um, Accommodation stuff stuff from p PR people and stuff like that.
00:29:23
Speaker
if I can get there on my own, I think I should at least attempt that instead of accepting the airfare and the ah hotel crap. Yeah. yeah Yeah, and I played around with both. And yeah i i also love just day trips. I like i don't want to fucking stay the night anywhere. And I i hate hotels. I hate traveling.
00:29:45
Speaker
ah yeah but I still have a childlike love of hotels. where It's like, wow. Really? special for Like a Disney hotel or something fun? No, just any hotel. I'm like, wow, this is my room. This is my new room. is my new room until tomorrow. Wow.
00:30:03
Speaker
What ah do you do here? i I like to. I always judge the shower. um so i'll always try to. I like to take a shower and and then I judge it afterwards. That's my thing.
00:30:18
Speaker
um Showers. Also, I judge the ah the blow dryer. Oh, you blow dry. OK. Yeah, I don't get this blow out. don't get this natural blow out.
00:30:31
Speaker
It's all hot air, baby. wow I just do it. Oh, even the spike. Yeah. The spike does itself. Whatever. and Not all of us have volume like you.
00:30:44
Speaker
That's true. That's the show, guys. Remember to so subscribe to us on Patreon and ask us questions because we'll answer us whatever you like.
00:30:56
Speaker
Keep it PG-13.
00:31:00
Speaker
Todd B, you can you can you can you can yeah i think you guys have 14A. think that's a Canadian rating. I want it. Now I'm jealous that I don't have 14A. We have 14A. 14A, a bunch of whatever. remember like R-rated movies would always be here.
00:31:15
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here It was for a long time. It was a weird thing. Also, you can watch Terminator. Wait, I think Terminator was like PG-13, I think. I don't know. I wasn't live when Terminator 2 came out. I don't think I was either. T2?
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I wasn't live for T2, I don't think. I love that movie, but I don't think I was live when it came out. I'm a mid-90s baby. ah Yeah, i made it i I made a joke in front of a lot of a younger 20 year olds or low 20 year olds and I said, oh, did you T2 them when you when you went away or when you left or said something like that and they're like, did you T2 them? And I was like, oh yeah.
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You were like to doesn't do do like, what are you like What's wrong with you? I felt like that's a universal expression.
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Zoomers. The Oscars, baby. Did you terminate Genesis them? Did you terminate a Genesis them? What did happened? What happened in Genesis? I don't, I've seen them all.
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Who cares? It's all about T1, T2. Yeah, it's all about T1, I've heard that the show was good, but I've never seen it. Ooh, neither. The Saraconic Ruggles.
00:32:32
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Oh, I should watch that. People talk about it a lot.
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Well, everyone, thank you for watching and listening. And we will talk to you next week. Bye, everyone. b
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