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The Premier League is back! Game Week 1 In Review
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Premier League Week 1 is in the books! Chelsea’s rocky start has fans worried 😬, Manchester United showed glimpses of their former glory 👀, and the transfer window is heating up 🔥. Plus, a shocking VAR decision has everyone talking!
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Introduction and Premier League Excitement
00:00:17
killianginnity
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Nada Pundit podcast. I am Kellyanne Ginnity, and I'm delighted to be joined as ever by Conor Glennon and Nathan Byrne. It is the reaction to match week one of the Premier League. The Premier League is back, gentlemen. And as Salah soared against Ipswich and Arsal's pickpocket tactics has worked against Wolves. City made Chelsea crumble. Gentlemen, how did we enjoy the first week?
00:00:45
Conor Glennon
Well, I almost enjoyed it as much as that intro. Well done, mate. That was solid. um No, it's great that football back. I mean, it's, it's, it was good. We got a football to be fair. um ah so Like what we can dig into it kind of ah across the next while, but I think some of it was as expected. There's some nice little surprises in there, but I think it's fair to say that it won't be a boring year. What about you, Nate?
00:01:08
Nate
I felt good, I felt good to have non-stop football on a Saturday and Sunday. It feels like life has reset back to normal so now I loved it. Some good games, not the most competitive games I don't think but it's only the start of the season and so I can't be too nitpicky.
00:01:27
killianginnity
Well, I will admit I was at Electric Picnic, so I am playing catch up.
Match Highlights and Weekend Recap
00:01:31
killianginnity
I have caught highlights and results. So I will be relying on you to kind of correct anything that the yeah the YouTube montages may have gotten wrong. and But Connor, let's start with Newcastle. 1-0 over Southampton. I think Southampton is kind of proving to be a little bit better than their relegation fodder that we expected them.
00:01:57
Conor Glennon
Yeah, absolutely. like i mean it was It was great to see the boys back in black and white. i mean ah the The red card really didn't... i mean it was It shouldn't have happened, but a letter of the law it definitely was was a red card. but you know I think it's a credit to the team that we lost a man so early and were able to keep keep the win.
00:02:17
Conor Glennon
Southampton were definitely surprising though. um you know I think all of us in the predictions for the year had Southampton right down at the bottom um and I don't think it's going to be that obvious. no look It's one game to base it on but arguably on the day I think they were better than Newcastle to be honest.
Newcastle's Resilience Analysis
00:02:34
killianginnity
Well, like just looking at some of the stats of the match, you said 22% precision?
00:02:39
Conor Glennon
So I'm saying, you know, it's, it's poor, like, as in like, we got away with it. Like I'm like, yeah, look, we're a man down and the the stats aren't going to be exactly what you want. But like we had one shot on target. Um, we had 22% possession, three corners, one offside. Like that is a team that's camping, you know?
00:03:00
killianginnity
does it kind of show though a willingness to be pragmatic and roll with the punches from how like is this rather than trying to play a perfect football all the time is how kind of going back to his ah his roots and just getting results?
00:03:16
Nate
That's a nice way to put it. The red card didn't help them out, they were boxing to the wall at that point. for I still think like there should still be a bit more on the pitch, even even though you're down a man.
00:03:30
Conor Glennon
100%.
00:03:34
Nate
It's the first so it's opening the game of the season, Southampton looked a bit like home here.
00:03:41
Nate
Yeah, i'd I'd be a tad bit worried after that result, but I also will take would but take comfort in knowing that we got a really early red guard.
00:03:51
Conor Glennon
That's kind of what I'm at. Like it's, it's, it's one of those, like you, like you said, Southampton look like they'd more fight in them. Yeah. And then look, it's their first game and of the season in the Premier League, but we were the ones at home. We didn't look at home. And my only positive is yeah, we got the win. And going one man, then we were able to still control the game in some respect, albeit not in the stats, but you know, all that matters is the result of the end of the day.
Brighton's Triumph and Young Talent
00:04:14
killianginnity
um And like there was another red card, a record-breaking red card this weekend, which was ah Ashley Young getting a red card at 39 years old and however many hundreds of days being the oldest red card in Premier League history as and Brighton trounced Everton tree in Illinois.
00:04:35
Nate
I mean, like, if that doesn't sum up everything as a football club right now, that Ashley Young, who I hold a lot of respect for, you know, captain of Manchester United at one point.
00:04:39
Conor Glennon
hahaha
00:04:48
Nate
Yeah, he should not be playing, like, starting Premier League football matches in 2024. Like, it just doesn't make sense to me how a club like Everton are going out and signing. Say a Jacob Ryan for 20 odd million, yeah, they're relying on 39.
00:05:04
Conor Glennon
That I didn't understand like him being parked on the bench.
00:05:05
Nate
So, you know, you're all right back.
00:05:08
Conor Glennon
I know it's first game or whatever. What is that about?
00:05:12
Nate
it's And I think, like, watching them, like, everything could be in big trouble again this season. Like, God forbid that they're not playing their first year in that stadium in the championship.
00:05:25
Nate
But also, on the other hand, Brighton looked something else. Like, they looked like a unit.
00:05:29
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:05:32
Nate
and some really good signings that like we come to expect of Brighton now. and And the manager looks like he fits like a glove. like it's I don't know where Brighton are going and getting these managers and players, but like clearly they've they've got the form and the sauce.
00:05:48
Conor Glennon
But it's like, ah you know, any other team in the league, if you tell me they had a manager who was 31, you'd be like alarm bells, you know, you'd be like, what is going on?
00:05:56
Nate
Yeah.
00:05:57
Conor Glennon
But they could bring in a bloke who's 26, never played football in his life, straight up football manager. And he'd probably be good. Like I don't know, both from a player resource perspective and a coaching resource perspective, they seem to have cracked the code, whether they're using algorithms to decide this, which I'm pretty sure that we've covered in previous episode that they are, but the, the,
00:06:17
Conor Glennon
the learning systems they're building to just make these decisions and the people who are making the final decision, they're cooking down there.
00:06:26
killianginnity
it's it's very very like it's amazing to watch Brighton work um from a business perspective and from a footballing perspective because they play good football um but they have entertaining players as well like the likes of Matoma is is fun to watch the way you can just like
00:06:35
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:06:45
killianginnity
dazzle going through players. um Also, can I just, meant can we just talk about Jason Steele for a minute? Jason Steele could not get a game at Sunderland when we were in League One. He was at one stage behind Lee Camp. He is now keeping clean sheets for the second or third season in a row in the Premier League for Brighton.
00:07:09
Conor Glennon
It just shows you though, man, that that there's certain players built for, for certain systems. And, you know, Rafa was saying this on, on stick to football,
Liverpool's Strategy and Transfer Concerns
00:07:16
Conor Glennon
that, you know, you can take a player that you think is working it massively at a major European team.
00:07:22
Conor Glennon
Same with a manager. It just, it really depends set up to set up.
00:07:26
killianginnity
Like, when he was at Sunland there was um a major issue that he was not very good with his hands. And Brighton obviously said, went, you're using the wrong part of his body!
00:07:32
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:07:32
Nate
and like
00:07:33
Conor Glennon
yeah
00:07:34
Nate
And lads, I'm not showing shots here. Like, other clubs around Brighton stature must actually sit there with pure jealousy. Like, like ah like at some point, other clubs are going to have to crack this code, what they're doing.
00:07:42
Conor Glennon
100%
00:07:47
Nate
like Because to me, it hasn't been cracked yet, because they keep bringing through these class after class of young players mixed with some experience as well. Like, James Miller was starting, Lewis Donk at the back.
00:07:59
Nate
Like, they've got a good good team of experience in there as well. but lads if you're a bright and funny you must be like it must be joy to go and watch that team every week because
00:08:08
Conor Glennon
I mean, I would have been nervous with Taylor in the last year, the way that managerial exit happened, but I mean, you definitely have faith again and in the leadership off the back of the that first game. I know so i know we're waxing lyrical here based off of one game, but Christ, they look good.
00:08:25
killianginnity
But they're all like they're they're ah when they are getting these but ah more experienced players, they're buying them from the bargain bins.
00:08:34
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:08:34
killianginnity
I think that's the most impressive thing. Milner was on a free, and people were kind of going, oh, he's too old now, so what's the point? And he's still as solid as ever.
00:08:44
Conor Glennon
It was his 23rd Premier League season.
00:08:45
killianginnity
and
00:08:46
Conor Glennon
Just think about that.
00:08:48
killianginnity
It's insane.
00:08:49
Nate
man 23
00:08:50
killianginnity
Nate, how old are you?
00:08:55
Nate
guys
00:08:55
Conor Glennon
Oh Jesus Christ.
00:08:56
killianginnity
yeah So he is one day into his career, which is insane.
00:09:00
Conor Glennon
Into the Premier League.
00:09:06
killianginnity
and then you have like daddy well back up front like carl rushworth good good player billy gilmore was a was like a good youth prospect but never seemed to be kind of like enough to kind of really push true donk vellman fine like this is one of these themes that is just better than the sum of its parts and it's amazing and When you look at Everton, Everton have individual players, you go, oh, he should be decent and enough, he should be fine.
00:09:33
killianginnity
And they just can't work together. Michael Kean, Tarkovsky, Young, Dwight McNeil, Harrison, Idrisa Gay, ed Decore, Calvert Lewin. Every one of them, you go, all right, yeah, OK, that's fine.
00:09:46
Conor Glennon
They just never seem to mesh though. and they always like i mean i Last season they would not have survived if it wasn't for the manager and the likes of James Coleman taking that dressing room by the scruff of the neck. It's as simple as that. I think they'd admit that too.
00:10:01
Nate
See, i t I think personally, whether the manager saved them last season, to me, or for debate a bit, but I think on the flip side, the manager in this season could be the one that actually brings them down. like i just To me, Everton should not be playing that type of football. I don't know how to head the fans feel about it and stuff, but like even the makeup of their team, it's it's a team that can play attack of football.
00:10:28
Conor Glennon
100% Well,
00:10:28
Nate
like it like You can't go to me, that's a Sean Dodge team right there. You either buy into the manager or you buy into the club philosophy. am i been ah To me, everything looked like a team that's confused.
00:10:41
Conor Glennon
we've said this before, like fans can want ticky tacky all they want. Fans don't care as long as you're winning games. They simply, like, I don't, I wouldn't even care if you couldn't even define Newcastle's style of play if we were winning games.
Everton's Challenges and Relegation Risks
00:10:52
Conor Glennon
I could not care.
00:10:55
killianginnity
One of the things I have to say about Everton, and I did say at the end towards the end of last season, when this did start to do good, I think Pickford is like dice, which is they only get going when the back's against the wall. So I think after this week, you might even see a couple of more bad performances, but I think you will see things pretty quickly turn around. I think after this, dice, like who knows what dice was told over the summer, bearing in mind, they have that whole ownership thing still hanging over their heads.
00:11:24
killianginnity
Who's going to buy them this week? Who's going to buy them next week? Oh, they're not going to buy them at all. Who knows? um Like was he kind of told here, make this, make these players a little bit more attractive. We need trying to try and get this club going.
00:11:36
killianginnity
And then he didn't do that. It didn't work. So now he might just go and go, right, brings the ball is back and just get these results.
00:11:41
Conor Glennon
ah I'm a big fan of them. you like i I don't want to speak for you guys, but I've always been a big fan of them. But to me, Sean Dyche works best. Like you say, when it's siege mentality, it's also against the world.
00:11:52
Conor Glennon
We need to stay up or you know we need to beat the be higher than this team. He's kind of got that Michael Jordan kind of ah needs.
00:12:00
killianginnity
He only got good when they got points deductions.
00:12:02
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:12:03
killianginnity
Like, who else can you say that about?
00:12:05
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:12:05
Nate
But that's like, that's that's my problem when it is like, he's not a long term manager for anywhere. Like, if clubs are aspiring to, to like, get on the edge of Europe or whatever. Like, Shondoy, she's my man. Like, like, I think, I think it's as clear as day is like, you bring him in to stop the league somewhere, but maybe Maybe he's just there until the ownership thing improves or something, but like to me, if I ever to want to improve and push forward, Sean Deutsch isn't a man.
00:12:40
Conor Glennon
Well realistically, new owners means new manager, it always is.
00:12:40
killianginnity
I think, yeah, I think you're doing a slightest disjustice to him.
00:12:46
killianginnity
I think he can be a long-term manager, but in the same in the sense that Steve Bruce was back in the day or so or Sam Allardyze, it's kind of like, you're not expecting them to bring you to Europe, but if you're a team that's coming up or that has been kind of threatened with relegation, bring them in and they'll solidify you.
00:13:03
killianginnity
and Like if Ipswich were to stay up and McKenna was to be poached next year, I would love Dyche to go there because he would keep them in the league for two or three years.
00:13:13
Nate
But where is
00:13:13
Conor Glennon
Yeah, I agree with that.
00:13:14
killianginnity
And did he have enough money? And then you can push on again and get a new manager.
00:13:18
Nate
Everton as a football group? So like, what do you think Everton now, relegation battlers? Like, low, like, we're talking like four or five seasons now where they're like, it's grim, like, it's,
00:13:25
Conor Glennon
Do you mean as the stature of the club? like like isn't what would you like what would you like
00:13:32
killianginnity
Yeah, but what if you if you go as far back as Ronald Kuhlman, like the players that he was signing was just dire.
00:13:40
Nate
But it's almost like, so like it's almost like they need a relegation.
00:13:40
killianginnity
So like.
00:13:45
killianginnity
They did 100 percent.
00:13:46
Nate
Like, there I don't know, but to be me, well, the 100 million farm I have, to be honest.
00:13:47
Conor Glennon
Can they survive that though, you know?
00:13:50
killianginnity
That's a bigger issue.
00:13:55
Conor Glennon
That doesn't go far that when you've got, unless you can, unless you've got assets, you can get rid of faster and you know, clauses and contracts that go down 50%. That hundred million does not go far.
00:14:06
Nate
but But say say everything, turning down to 70 million, or I believe it was a 50 million bid from United for Brantway because they won 70.
00:14:15
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:14:18
Nate
Can they do that? Like in good faith, can you do that as a football club? Because the the way your future sounds right now doesn't sound like it. So it's like, I think they're confused with where they currently are.
00:14:31
Nate
And I think, yeah, I think there's just a big confusion all around to us.
00:14:35
killianginnity
Like for Everton, I think myself and Connor are probably the most ah educated having been in these positions. Getting relegated can reset you.
00:14:45
Conor Glennon
100%
00:14:46
killianginnity
Like for Newcastle, it was a big reset. It got rid of a lot of dead wood. It got rid of good players, but players that you didn't need anymore. Like if you think back to the the previous relegation, when he's got rid of Voduca, Open Family Martins, Alan Smith, that was
00:15:01
Conor Glennon
Great player, it's expensive players though.
00:15:03
killianginnity
Yeah, it got you to clear out that you kind of didn't know you needed.
00:15:04
Conor Glennon
And old.
00:15:08
Conor Glennon
Yeah. And I also think it recalibrated ah ah a bit of fighting to the team.
00:15:09
killianginnity
You still flashed as well.
00:15:12
Conor Glennon
Like of the lads who were left, there was a few mercenaries.
00:15:12
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:15:15
Conor Glennon
There always isn't a team, but for the most part, you're kind of Kevin Nolan types got that team back but into a, I suppose, a working class team. And I know you can't say that when people are earning, you know, 60, 80, a hundred grand a week, but there was just a bit more spice to the team, you know?
00:15:32
killianginnity
but then when you see a sunerland when we went down this time ah we like with Jack Rodwell, we didn't have the relegation clause with him and that crippled him, crippled us, one player. so And we suffered relegation after relegation.
00:15:46
killianginnity
So like, it can go either way. um I think Everton have been too big for too long to have proper ah fail safes in place. um But if they haven't been for the past two or three years putting them fail safes in place, then they deserve everything that comes
00:15:56
Nate
yeah
00:16:03
Conor Glennon
I don't know. Those last owners, man, are kind of there.
00:16:06
killianginnity
the current elements.
00:16:07
Conor Glennon
I'm sorry. Yeah. Jesus. ah They've been nearly sold so many times at this point, but they're Mike Ashley types. Like they're not, I wouldn't be banking on them.
00:16:13
Nate
yeah it's like how Wes Hamm was for a long time where they started to drift but everything have never got back up like
00:16:23
Conor Glennon
Yeah. They're at their bottom half team now. If not, ah you know, 14, 15 downwards team.
00:16:29
Nate
like there was a, what, there was a two or three year period where Wes and Sam were flirting with radiation.
Liverpool's Key Performances
00:16:34
Conor Glennon
yeah speaking of improving though the other side of Merseyside RNA not RNA as he wants to be known that surprised me I'm not gonna lie
00:16:35
Nate
Like, so it can't, so it can't happen, but it's just like, everything, like, I don't see it improving.
00:16:36
killianginnity
and they did get relegated and Big Sam brought them back up. Again, that was another great reset.
00:16:46
Nate
Like, I just, I just don't like,
00:17:00
killianginnity
Yeah, it was a 2-0 victory over Ipswich. So let's keep that in mind. It's Ipswich. It's the first game in the Premier League in any of our lifetimes or near and enough. um And they did what you would expect. It took them until the second half to get any goals. But Jota goal, assisted by Salah, and a Salah goal all in the out in and around the arrow mark.
00:17:28
killianginnity
um I'm not convinced by slot yet.
00:17:32
Conor Glennon
I think it was a good start. I even just like, I know the result isn't ending amazing. And yeah, for those, like you said, for those reasons, it it was kind of the obvious second half tiredness kind of wear them out piece. But from, from the kind of clips that I saw before hopping on, it, it seems stylistically they're playing good football. Uh, one thing that did surprise me is post game, he kind of directly attacked a couple of players for their efforts, which I don't know if he's just setting up his shop and trying to be different to clap or.
00:17:32
Nate
All right.
00:18:02
Conor Glennon
what I'm not a fan of that. I think that should be behind closed doors. I don't think managers managers should directly talk about specific positions or players in in the media.
00:18:12
Nate
To be honest, I thought Ipswich looked good. I thought for a team that came up, they held their own. They were aggressive, they played decent football at times. And to hold Liverpool to get the first goal in the second half, i thought like I thought it was a really good effort from them.
00:18:31
Conor Glennon
It's positive signs, you know?
00:18:31
Nate
i think that
00:18:32
Nate
Yeah, and the one thing I noticed with Liverpool's sort of style of play is a lot of it is just overlapping constantly, where they get a player, go, get a player, go. honest that I don't think that's going to work against the bigger groups. I really don't. They look like very predictable football.
00:18:52
Nate
in my opinion I could be being harsh but that's what I saw I saw an ambition side that came up that didn't want to park the bus was aggressive held their own and yeah I think we need a few more weeks to see where either team lies it's
00:19:09
Conor Glennon
What baffles me though, as I was talking about this to someone earlier, the only player that's looking likely that they're gonna bring in is a goalkeeper. They do not need a goalkeeper. Like, what is that about?
00:19:20
Nate
hilarious
00:19:21
Conor Glennon
Like, it's it baffles me. Like, I don't... Like, surely he wouldn't have signed on to this project with no money to spend. Are the prices too high? Or is he not seeing him what he wants?
00:19:32
Conor Glennon
Or does he believe he actually has the players to do what he wants to do? But I just don't understand it personally.
00:19:40
Nate
it's it's making look it's making the new recruitment staff look a bit foolish isn't it like it's like oh yeah lads you got Michael Edwards and the gang back like back in town lads i'm looking at me watch the window ends in a week
00:19:44
Conor Glennon
But they look redundant, it's like, what are you there for, like?
00:19:55
Conor Glennon
Yeah, like the the boys are down the pub having a couple of gaynesses, like...
00:19:56
Nate
the I think what's going on, I'm like, just just to to say like bringing a new goalkeeper, if you're a Callaherma, you better be kicking and screaming at the top of your lungs. Otherwise, you or your agent is not doing yourself with this, like, a deserve. It's mental.
00:20:16
killianginnity
Did you ever watch Fargo in the movie?
00:20:18
Conor Glennon
yes it the true MVP of doing nothing
00:20:19
killianginnity
Yeah, do you know that movie has a composer and has no film score?
00:20:25
killianginnity
this is that but That is the Michael Edwards right now for for Liverpool. But in fairness, if you look at their squad, the one that they put out, I am kind of finding it hard to pick holes necessarily.
00:20:42
killianginnity
like Backline of Van Dyke, Robertson, Trent, and Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa being the only kind of weak one, but he's young enough that you kind of go, well, maybe it's worth kind of pursuing it. Midfield of Diaz, Sibazoslai, McAllister, Salah, Gravenbirch, forward, being Jota.
00:21:00
Conor Glennon
I don't think it's a very future-proof squad, though, because, like, you...
00:21:03
killianginnity
But then the subs where it gets interesting like Kanate who hasn't seemed to be really being given a chance but he was brought on to replace Kwanza.
00:21:04
Conor Glennon
Yeah. yeah
00:21:13
killianginnity
Simakas who I don't know if he's a Premier League level. um
00:21:17
Conor Glennon
I would say no, personally. I don't know about you, Nate.
00:21:19
Nate
I think he's gonna go back up to bounce.
00:21:19
killianginnity
ah
00:21:22
Conor Glennon
Yeah, he's like but he's not a starting Premier League player.
00:21:24
Nate
No.
00:21:25
killianginnity
He has the bang of playing for Fulham in two years time. Um, Connor Bradley, great young prospect. Endo. Yeah, you can fit into the midfield. Curtis Jones.
00:21:35
killianginnity
Good. You, you, he's not young anymore, but he's, he's a club player. Harvey Elliott, I think can be decent. Nunez is like crazy horse that you can bring on and Gackpo.
00:21:49
killianginnity
I think he's the one that's kind of getting a slightly hard done by in fairness.
00:21:52
Nate
I think they need i do they need a proper good striker.
00:21:52
killianginnity
so
00:21:55
Conor Glennon
That's what I was about to say. i like They really need someone up top. because like like like We said in previous episodes, Alison has Saudi knocking on his door. Trent has got Madrid looking at him. Van Dyke is on the move. That leaves Kwanzaa and Robertson at the back with a big gap to fill. Alexis McAllister, great player. Luis Diaz, how long does he stay? Salah, Saudi bound.
00:22:22
Conor Glennon
you know it's it's May work this season but if RNA has any shot of long term here, they need to get cooking, you know?
00:22:32
Nate
i think like i was actually discussing as earlier day I think Tony makes a lot of sense for Liverpool over United.
00:22:38
Conor Glennon
Well at the price that he's apparently available for, why wouldn't you?
00:22:38
Nate
a
00:22:41
Nate
like is To me, Newness to me is not going to be anything. He's just too erratic. He might do well in another league. I don't think he's made for the prem.
00:22:55
Nate
and I'd be looking for a striker. Golf. Because I don't think Salah can keep up a goal per game in the Premier League anymore.
00:22:59
Conor Glennon
hundred percent
00:23:05
Nate
That's my opinion. Jota. Whenever it was last time we saw Jota play like a proper long string of games.
00:23:12
Conor Glennon
100%.
00:23:12
Nate
oh
00:23:13
Conor Glennon
He's also not so many you put your, you don't build around them, you know.
00:23:15
Nate
and and And just to to touch back on kind of Bradley, if I was him I'd probably be looking for a loan. And I don't think he's gonna get to gain time he needs at his age.
00:23:26
killianginnity
Unless Trench does move.
00:23:29
Nate
Yeah, I just don't see that happening, dear.
00:23:31
Conor Glennon
i I actually do. I think it makes sense for them to have you know someone that Bellingham is used to in the spine of the team. I think it makes them more marketable, not that they need to be. But you know what I mean? That's it. He'll probably need an Irish passport at this rate. But um yeah, and I do see that deal progressing, I think. It would take a big move for from Liverpool ah like even Financially he doesn't need like he's on a great contract already. I think it's a case of he needs to believe in that that team is going to go places, but ah There's too many players that are possibly leaving for me to think he sticks around
00:24:14
killianginnity
I'm standing by my prediction with them in the sense that I think there's stronger teams that can that will get ahead of them um over over the course of the season.
Newcastle's Core Players and Strategy
00:24:26
killianginnity
ah i like I think they have a strong squad. I don't think they have a strong enough squad. Do I see them beating an Arsenal later on in the year? I don't think so.
00:24:37
Conor Glennon
I don't. I don't. And probably draw they I feel like Liverpool will go into games like that go and it draws a win.
00:24:39
killianginnity
and
00:24:44
killianginnity
Yeah and like when you see Newcastle being able to pull off, ah albeit against Southampton but a man down and being able to play without the ball will then suddenly can Liverpool grind out results like that and I'm just not convinced they can.
00:24:50
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:24:58
Conor Glennon
I will say though, in the Newcastle side of things, like I'm not rose-tended glasses here. like If we don't have Bruno or Esac on that team, that doesn't happen. You know, we are dependent on a very small core group of players that but we'll be lucky to hold on to long term.
00:25:07
Nate
Oh yeah.
00:25:16
killianginnity
Not like you just have ah all of the money to replace them as needs be.
00:25:21
Conor Glennon
But we can't spend it because of these bloody FFP rules.
00:25:22
killianginnity
and
00:25:26
killianginnity
um But you do have players that are very sellable. Like, would you get rid of Gordon? Because he apparently he's been linked with Liverpool throughout the whole summer.
00:25:34
Conor Glennon
Yeah, I mean, there's that's been floating around.
00:25:34
Nate
do
00:25:36
Conor Glennon
like per Like when he came into the club, I didn't like how he he exited his last club. I think it said a lot about him. I wasn't a fan of him, but it's hard to say he's not a canny player and someone that we need in our system, you know?
00:25:48
Nate
Does Gordon like strike as a Liverpool player? Because he does it with me.
00:25:52
Conor Glennon
No.
00:25:52
Nate
like like ah That doesn't feel like a Liverpool move, right?
00:25:52
killianginnity
No.
00:25:56
Conor Glennon
No, I, you know, what's funny about it, like before all the madness at Chelsea, I would have said a Chelsea player.
00:25:57
Nate
like
00:26:04
Nate
Yeah. ah To be honest, I yeah like i don't know.
00:26:06
killianginnity
I dunno.
00:26:10
Nate
like I can't picture him at any team really, but Liverpool to me, like the wingers is like the last place you need to touch right now.
00:26:18
Conor Glennon
Wingers and goalkeepers, you're pretty stocked like.
00:26:20
Nate
yeah like you could you could go another season without bringing it away no that gets avoided leaves the lake sure the viewers are back us up on that one
00:26:24
Conor Glennon
Speaking of Tony, by the way, I'd like to think I win my prediction of flop of the year if Tony does go to Saudi, or or does that get voided?
00:26:36
killianginnity
Yeah. He gave up before a he ever tried.
00:26:42
Conor Glennon
Speaking of Tony though, where what do you think about him getting left out of the squad?
00:26:47
Nate
Yeah, I think it makes sense.
00:26:47
killianginnity
I was delayed.
00:26:48
Nate
I think it makes sense, doesn't it? If he's flirting with water clothes, that's what this sounds like. and Yeah, I think it makes sense to me.
00:26:59
Conor Glennon
But it was always going to be the way like if they, if they were going to give him a hit, this is what I don't understand. He got the whole hero's welcome that we talked about before when he came back from the band and then you bench the dude, you know, play one game here. You're speaking about sides of your mouth that that doing that as a club, you know.
00:27:16
killianginnity
Or does I tell you more about him and his attitude since coming back?
00:27:19
Conor Glennon
Yeah. I mean, I think, look, Jesus, ah ever since that Stephen Bartlett interview with him happened, I think everyone knew he wasn't hanging around, you know, sure. He thought he was going to bloody realm of dread at that point.
00:27:27
killianginnity
all
00:27:30
killianginnity
former rap battler stephen bart
00:27:34
Nate
he's He's the player that I would want to buy them.
00:27:37
Conor Glennon
No, I wouldn't want him either.
00:27:38
Nate
Actually it was.
00:27:40
killianginnity
He's, sometimes you need a bastard in your team, but you don't need that bastard to be a prick to your team.
00:27:44
Nate
But I don't think he's a good one.
00:27:47
killianginnity
You need him.
00:27:47
Conor Glennon
You need him to be a Tommy Graberson. You need him to be... I'll even throw Joey Barton in there. You need a Craig Bellamy. You need and just a nasty bastard, but not someone who's bad for the squad.
00:27:56
Nate
A people.
00:27:59
killianginnity
Yeah, like he he just seems to talk down to to the team that has actually made his name.
00:27:59
Nate
Yeah.
00:28:06
Conor Glennon
Well a hundred percent, like sure, you know what, a year ago people were saying he could go for 80 odd million and you know, the only reason that Saudi fee was like 50 was cause it's Saudi.
00:28:06
killianginnity
And it's like,
00:28:17
Conor Glennon
If that was an English club, that's more like 25.
00:28:20
Nate
I wonder how.
00:28:20
killianginnity
I think Brentford made a mistake and not selling him.
00:28:22
Conor Glennon
Well they have to now though.
00:28:22
killianginnity
Even with the ban.
00:28:23
Nate
Yeah.
00:28:24
Conor Glennon
they're Like, I mean, they what, he's got a year on his deal. So like he either walks out the door free or you make some coin off him.
00:28:28
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:28:32
Nate
I think Saudi will suit him. Saudi will suit him.
00:28:35
Conor Glennon
I just think he'd cause absolute anarchy out there.
00:28:40
Nate
I think he found his level with Saudi.
00:28:40
killianginnity
Ah. I think with the Saudi thing, though, like, it's It's gonna, it's like, he's gonna suit out there because he can have, like, he can throw the toys out of his pram all he wants because the players around him aren't going to be better than him.
00:29:02
killianginnity
Like, Brentford has shown since he got the band that they can play without him. They don't necessarily need him. Mooembu is a very solid forward. He's not a striker, he's a forward.
00:29:13
killianginnity
And they're now playing an assistant that doesn't necessarily need him. Like,
00:29:17
Conor Glennon
But would we be saying, I know I agree, leaving him on the bench, had Brentford lost that game?
00:29:25
killianginnity
I would.
00:29:26
Conor Glennon
Really, even still, because I think for me, as long as he is on your wage bill, you know, juice him, you know, absolutely get every but drop of juice out of him before he he's not on your wage bill anymore.
00:29:28
killianginnity
yeah
00:29:39
killianginnity
I would rather try and get the likes of a Kane Potter confidence, even if it's losing me the first couple of games of the season than give Ivan Tony a bigger ego than he already has.
00:29:51
killianginnity
Because I would rather somebody that's going to fight for the shirt and make other people go, well, I have to prove myself now rather than a Tony where somebody else might go, well, if he's the only getting all the plaudits, why am I going to bother?
00:29:51
Conor Glennon
fair
00:29:51
Nate
but But also, but also he's talking to other clubs, so he's going to be like, yeah, maybe I won't sprint that bit harder, but I might pull him and I like
00:30:09
Conor Glennon
fair well that's also a fair point but then it does it but then does he would
00:30:12
Nate
you
00:30:12
killianginnity
Talking to other clubs. His smoke signal is going out to them. He's screaming at them. He has an SOS going out of his apartment window.
Ivan Toney's Career Speculation
00:30:20
Conor Glennon
but Do you think like he has one eye on? Well, will I just stay at Brentford for the year? Because then I know I can get a monster sign-on fee as a free agent. Financially, it's more in his interest Tuesday.
00:30:31
killianginnity
I think this was a very gentle hint from Frank saying, listen, go.
00:30:32
Nate
Not with sanity.
00:30:36
killianginnity
If you want to go, go. Because I am willing to move on without you. So make your mind up. And I think that'll scare Tony because after having spent half a year not playing and then not coming and setting the world alight after, this is his last chance.
00:30:55
Conor Glennon
Tony has to know that if he goes to Saudi Arabia that the England national team is gone.
00:31:01
Nate
Yeah, but I don't think he cares. There's money in the bank.
00:31:03
killianginnity
I think, I think it's gone anywhere.
00:31:04
Conor Glennon
Fair.
00:31:05
Nate
Like, anybody that goes to Saudi, they don't care. It's all about money.
00:31:11
killianginnity
He only is would be getting call ups based on over a year ago's performances. He's done nothing as of recent to justify it. So I think his England career, unless someone in the Premier League signs him, I think his England career is over because he either has to leave and
00:31:30
Conor Glennon
Chinky's got cash in the bank from the Euros, though, because the minute he had, he did well.
00:31:35
killianginnity
He's a decent player. But, no. like I think he's done.
00:31:41
Conor Glennon
Do you think the same night?
00:31:41
killianginnity
um
00:31:42
Conor Glennon
What are you saying?
00:31:43
Nate
Yeah, think I think your bags to Saudi, go make your bag and we'll be seeing it.
00:31:50
Conor Glennon
We can't move on from that game, though, without talking about the Eze VAR incident. i
00:31:56
killianginnity
a
00:31:58
Conor Glennon
We're off again, like another season, first weekend and an absolute disaster. like like
00:32:06
killianginnity
Connor Acosteros.
00:32:08
Conor Glennon
so as he has a free kick edge of the box far side on the right he scores one of the goals of his life and like straight in from the from the free kick hits off the post and in and by the time the balls hit the net the refs called it for a for a kind of defensive fail one player stepping on another turns out it's the other way around and he can't do anything about it because var can't review it like
00:32:33
Nate
absolute joke
00:32:34
Conor Glennon
Like we've got every camera at every angle at every frame rate available. Like the ref has to let that run. You know, like it's, it's jumping in way too fast.
00:32:44
Nate
yeah
00:32:47
Conor Glennon
Cause like, I don't even know how he's seen it that fast.
00:32:52
killianginnity
yeah it's just every little tweak they try to do they just get it wrong and the euro's proved you can do it right you can still be controversial but you can get it right enough that people aren't going to have these complaints every week and yeah
00:33:02
Nate
It's an absolute joke.
00:33:07
Conor Glennon
The Euros had ah had instances, but i'd I'd argue there was less in out of all the games at the Euros than there was in six weeks of the Premier League last year.
00:33:17
killianginnity
But it becomes like it used to be with a bad ref performance. You can have an off day where there might be one or two decisions off. But with Var when it's like changing the course of matches, like that's the issue.
00:33:29
Nate
But like, but what's the referee doing there calling a 50-50 when three kicks have been taken?
00:33:29
killianginnity
And it's only the English league.
VAR Controversies in the Premier League
00:33:35
Nate
like
00:33:35
Conor Glennon
but But this one I don't understand it's like it happened so fast that like I watched that clip like 10 times knowing why he called it and I was like I couldn't even see it They love it they live for it
00:33:36
Nate
like
00:33:45
Nate
like And lads, it might be an unfair statement for me to say, but I've been saying this for ages, and I've said it again the weekend, is some of these refs crave attention. You can see it. like They want to be the center of attention. And to me, if that's the case, we're always going to be in this where they're going to make... like I would be surprised if one one or the other ref makes a decision just to be on camera.
00:34:15
Conor Glennon
its It wouldn't surprise me because you've got the likes of the Clattenbergs of the world who are getting tattoos of trophies for games they've reffed.
00:34:16
Nate
like we need to talk.
00:34:23
Conor Glennon
Like, I mean, give me a break.
00:34:25
killianginnity
So apparently this ref from what I can see, no he's he's done 16 ever in the Premier League out of 127 total.
00:34:28
Conor Glennon
It was his first game, I think, in the Premier League. In the Premier League. Okay.
00:34:38
Nate
ah Did he get promoted from last year?
00:34:41
killianginnity
He has 50 appearances in League One, 28 in League Two, 26 in the Championship and 16 in the Premier League.
00:34:49
Conor Glennon
like I mean, ah it doesn't have to be, but this is the problem with it. It's like we judge these refs as I did there going, Oh my God, he's only got 16 Premier League games. Well, he's reffed enough games across all levels that that situation could happen anywhere.
00:35:05
Conor Glennon
You know what I mean? Like you either know the game or you don't.
00:35:06
Nate
Yeah but like worrying thing is like his is championship appearances as a ref is like pretty similar to his primary league which is like can we not spread this out in a way that like actually looks like they're being progressed rather than you know go on do 30 games down league two then we'll see you in the championship and then straight into the big leagues like
00:35:29
Conor Glennon
It just seems like they they need people. but like what and i I don't want to sound like a manager who's doing a post-match interview, but like Palace, that point is needed.
00:35:40
Conor Glennon
Every point is needed in the Premier League. like Come the end of the year, that could be massive.
00:35:45
Conor Glennon
With every place in the Premier League being worth, like what, three, four million quid, that honestly could cost the club four million quid.
00:35:45
Nate
Yeah.
00:35:52
Nate
Yeah, that's not good enough work.
00:35:53
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:35:55
Nate
And I'm sick of like listening to like people that come out and defend refs and go, oh, it's human error or this, that.
00:36:05
Nate
We're always looking to improve. We're adding improvements. like What are you introducing new to VAR to cut down this stuff? like like Take steps.
00:36:12
killianginnity
but That's my problem is I'm a big, big fan of the air. I think it can work as shown by every other major league in Europe.
00:36:21
Conor Glennon
Is that the tech going in you though? Or is that genuinely as a football going you?
00:36:25
killianginnity
No, I think it can work. Look at rugby. I think it can work. and I just think the system needs to be in place for it. It's just this English mentality of like, I don't know if they just don't want to get rid of tradition.
00:36:38
killianginnity
I don't know it what it is. i It's like they have some kind of inferiority complex that they can't let a machine do the job better.
00:36:46
Nate
Why didn't they test the new things, like adding in new protocols? If you see a 50-50 that you're unsure of, maybe don't call it up in two seconds because you won't get it wrong.
00:36:58
Conor Glennon
i would I would prefer if he'd let it run and say the goal accounted and he was like it it shouldn't have been a goal and accounted.
00:36:58
Nate
and
00:37:06
Conor Glennon
I'd rather those instances happen than he doesn't even get the chance to see.
00:37:13
Nate
And i so I was watching his video of the A League in Australia and the reason we are and your man went over and made a decision.
00:37:13
Conor Glennon
you know
00:37:22
Nate
He comes just onto the pitch and over the over the intercom, he explains his reason. Like like live, like over just the stadium, Tano is like, he goes, ah gold disallowed, this is the reason.
00:37:29
Conor Glennon
Live, like?
00:37:37
Conor Glennon
Oh, that's like the NFL when they call a flag and they they outline as to what the rules are.
00:37:37
Nate
Bam.
00:37:40
Nate
Yeah.
00:37:41
Conor Glennon
I mean, it slows it down, which is annoying, but you.
00:37:44
Nate
what ah Those are two or three lines but at least you have the justification right there and to me that becomes a little bit more bearable because
00:37:46
killianginnity
It's already slowed.
00:37:47
Conor Glennon
Fair.
00:37:57
Conor Glennon
Well, if you're in the stadium, you never know what's going on. jar Do you ever think that cause like, well, like, you know, I haven't been over to the tune and in a couple of years at this point, but you know, when you're in the stadium, when the ref calls, enter and unless you catch it on the replay, you don't see it. But so if we're at home scratching our heads, the people who are paying the tickets in the ground have genuinely no clue.
00:38:15
Nate
But I also think a big issue is they don't have to justify their decisions until after the game. So like they can go in and write up the report and think of something on the fly.
00:38:26
Nate
like like black But that like like what they put down in the report after the game might not genuinely be the actual reason why they're making a decision.
00:38:27
Conor Glennon
But then they don't even put a face to it, they they they get the head of the PGMOL to do it.
00:38:37
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:38:38
Nate
And to me, that's wrong. Put them on the hotspot. If I'm given a penalty there, here's what I've seen. There's the penalty. That's your reason and then you can't hide behind it, you know what I mean?
00:38:45
killianginnity
I think I think one of the big things that like people kind of miss about preview or is kind of like well the referee may have got it wrong so he has to stand by his decisions which let's not forget they didn't do them they'd always find a reason but if you were to do the audible in the stadium where you had to kind of justify it you could kind of somebody can go well you got that wrong I disagree with you but I
00:39:12
Conor Glennon
But you had an opinion, you stood by it and you explained it.
00:39:15
killianginnity
Exactly. It's that kind of like, okay, you've made yourself accountable for it. And afterwards, if you go, Oh, my bad. Well, exactly.
00:39:22
Nate
But also.
00:39:22
Conor Glennon
but we but But we know the thinking then, and we'd I'd at least, I'd have more sympathy for someone who made a wrong decision if I knew where they were coming at it from.
00:39:28
Nate
Exactly, yeah. But also, it's the same referees doing stupid decisions, five games in a row. or or for whatever, like if they have to come out and say the justification five times in a row, and we're like, that's this thing, how's it getting to this?
00:39:44
Nate
like I generally think, and and like like they have time after the match to sit down, write a report to the to PGMO, hello, and go, this is my reason.
00:39:56
Nate
They come back and look at the footage and go, you know I can pick that up there. like like We don't know what the actual thinking is in the moment.
00:40:00
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:40:04
Conor Glennon
But speaking of not knowing what the thinking is, we gotta to move on to Chelsea, boys.
Chelsea's Struggles and Financial Questions
00:40:08
Conor Glennon
What are they thinking over there?
00:40:11
Nate
ugh, the funniest rubber globe on the planet like yeah okay soulless
00:40:15
killianginnity
Nate breakdown. So the result was a 2-0 win to City. Let's talk about the game first. And then we'll use that ah to question the club. What did you make of the game?
00:40:32
Nate
um yeah like i'd be very upset if i was a Chelsea fan like to go from Pochettino to what we saw there, like, is drastic in, like, just a couple of months.
00:40:45
Nate
Like, Todd Boney was up out of his seat after 60 minutes, like, probably got spent on a bill.
00:40:48
Conor Glennon
That I thought was buying out of order.
00:40:52
Nate
But, like, the thing is, like, yeah, it just looks so flat. It looked like, it genuinely looked like a lower, lower side, lower level side of the Premier League playing against the city.
00:41:03
Nate
Like, I'd expect that performance out of a Wolves or something, you know what I mean?
00:41:08
Conor Glennon
There was goals in that game for Chelsea though, like Jackson had chances man.
00:41:12
Nate
yeah but it sort of felt like half chances. Do you know what I mean? To me City had that game under control. like They looked comfortable.
00:41:23
Nate
and yeah like Chelsea was just like the craziest girl I think I've ever seen.
00:41:30
Conor Glennon
But when you look at it on paper, and this is what this is why stats sometimes you know can can fool you, like it it looks like an even game. you know Three shots on target for Chelsea, five for City, 48% possession for Chelsea, ah four corner kicks versus three, two offsides versus one. It looks like an end-to-end game, but there's absolutely no chance for them in that game. and you know When you look it off the field, like two the two ones that I have to talk to you guys about, because I've been waiting days to discuss this, Sterling for one and Gallagher for the other one, the Sterling one for me, just to set the station on it,
00:42:14
Conor Glennon
I think it's okay to decide as a new manager that you want to move on and you're a new manager and you want to set the tone, but I think the way he's gone about it has been abominable, but also the Sterling's handling of the situation has been abominable.
00:42:30
killianginnity
What age is Rahim Sterling?
00:42:32
Conor Glennon
Oh God, I'd say I think he's older than he is, but he's probably like 26 seven.
00:42:38
Nate
28, 29, or no, 31, 32 is it?
00:42:41
Conor Glennon
No way.
00:42:42
killianginnity
He's 29. He feels like he's been around forever.
00:42:45
Nate
Yeah.
00:42:45
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:42:46
killianginnity
but I thought he was closer to 30 when he went to Chelsea than he actually was. um like He's a very good player that just seems to be cast aside for no reason.
00:42:58
killianginnity
um
00:42:59
Nate
so
00:42:59
Conor Glennon
But do you agree that the way that Enzo's handling this, is like is he trying to be the big man here?
00:42:59
killianginnity
and
00:43:05
Conor Glennon
Is he trying to be like, don't mess with me?
00:43:08
killianginnity
Well, wasn't the quote ah via Fabristio Romano, uh, Oh, we don't have 42 players. I have 22 that I'm, uh, and the other 20 are not training with us.
00:43:19
killianginnity
Like that is, uh, he's, trying he he's trying to explain how they're not a basket case while that, while then talking about being a basket case.
00:43:19
Conor Glennon
You can't do that.
00:43:29
killianginnity
And like as a manager, that's insane. Like.
00:43:33
Nate
Don't worry, that's all right, I'll do anything in there just for the proper way.
00:43:35
Conor Glennon
Yeah, that's our 23s. I mean, please. like i mean Looking at that Chelsea team, I don't like Sterling very much, but I do think he is better than some players that he played in that team.
00:43:48
killianginnity
Yeah, he's a lot more effective.
00:43:49
Nate
But also, strippping the squad number giving it to the new guy that just came in
00:43:54
Conor Glennon
like it's it it's schoolboy stuff it really is like he trains all week he gets told on a friday you're not in the matchday squad at all and by monday or tuesday his squad number has been given away and he's told to leave a four days left in the window or not four days left but you know what i mean
00:43:55
Nate
about train like like this is like
00:44:14
Nate
Yeah, it's like, I don't think it's acceptable, like what the club's doing. Like, I genuinely think they probably need to intervene, like, and go, like, you can't just treat players like that.
00:44:25
Conor Glennon
Well, it's not unfair dismissal.
00:44:25
Nate
like
00:44:28
Conor Glennon
I don't want to bring that into it, but like you can't treat people like that.
00:44:33
killianginnity
And it's why I find him crazy about the whole thing was he went from being their only bright spark. Like I thought it was an odd signing anyway, but he went from being the only bright spark that Chelsea had kind of going, okay, well, at least Sterling might grab us a result here to just being persona non grata. Like this is a guy who very, very recently was a key player for England.
00:44:57
killianginnity
who wasn't even in the discussions for the Euros.
00:45:00
Conor Glennon
No.
00:45:00
killianginnity
There was no thought of him. He was forgotten.
00:45:03
Conor Glennon
And fans didn't even kick up about it.
00:45:03
killianginnity
we were I don't think fans realised.
00:45:07
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:45:07
killianginnity
I didn't realise.
00:45:08
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:45:08
killianginnity
It was just like, oh yeah, actually he still plays. um So like, it's I hope for Sterling he gets a move.
00:45:16
Conor Glennon
Where does he go though?
00:45:17
killianginnity
Where he goes, he has to take a wage cut.
00:45:18
Conor Glennon
You know?
00:45:22
killianginnity
And if he wants to stay unreasonable money, I think he'd go to Italy. I think he could do quite well.
00:45:27
Conor Glennon
Tinky goes from England. So like, you don't think anyone in England goes in?
00:45:31
killianginnity
I think somebody somebody in England should. I don't think they will. um
00:45:34
Nate
I think C should get him back, like to be honest. I think he's probably better than Grealish.
00:45:39
killianginnity
There's worse moves.
00:45:43
Conor Glennon
I mean, yeah.
00:45:46
killianginnity
They wouldn't cause of his age.
00:45:47
Nate
Yeah.
00:45:48
killianginnity
But I know what you mean. like it it For them, it wouldn't. like I'd rather have him than Savino.
00:45:54
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:45:56
killianginnity
Um, but like, yeah.
00:45:56
Conor Glennon
at least at least in the in the short term.
00:45:56
Nate
but Do you want to know a genuinely mind-boggling style?
00:46:02
killianginnity
Mm.
00:46:02
Nate
So, Chelsea under Todd Bowley has spent $1.32 billion. Manchester United in the history of English football has spent $2.71 billion.
00:46:17
Conor Glennon
And he's been there, what, since 23-2?
00:46:21
killianginnity
Two, I think.
00:46:22
Nate
So in two years he has spent just shy of half of what Manchester United has spent in their entire history.
00:46:31
Conor Glennon
If they don't get nailed to the cross by FFP, the whole game's gone.
00:46:37
Nate
ssv are you dare like kids someone
00:46:39
Conor Glennon
new phone who is yeah
00:46:41
Nate
Can someone reply please? i but like nuclear they so They're just under 200 million from what Newcastle has spent in their entire history.
00:46:54
Conor Glennon
it's
00:46:54
Nate
or jim Just under 700 million from what Arsenal has spent in their entire history.
00:46:59
killianginnity
Isn't it half of what Chelsea have spent in their history?
00:47:02
Nate
half of what Chelsea has spent and just half of what Man City has spent and 800 million off what Liverpool has spent in their, this is the club's entire history.
00:47:14
Conor Glennon
it's It's beyond words and like its it's the same thing with the Gallagher thing. you know it's Whatever you think of Gallagher as from a playing perspective, we can touch on that after this, but I think a club in Chelsea's circumstance need homegrown players who are actual fans of the club and young.
00:47:34
Conor Glennon
He is all three. He grew. He's a lifelong Chelsea fan. He was arguably one of the best players last year. He had a crack in euros for the minutes that he had.
00:47:41
Nate
talk to
00:47:42
Conor Glennon
Like it makes absolutely no sense apart from on a spreadsheet to move him on. But even for and that included the optics of it to the fan base says everything.
00:47:55
Nate
That's if I was a chess player, I would be on my hands and knees to my age of God. Get me out of this place. I don't care if I have an eight year contract. Like it's you're you're just going to sink. Like there's too many players to compete with.
00:48:08
Conor Glennon
But it has to get to a point where like financially, like if they miss Champions League, what happens?
00:48:16
Nate
To be honest, to be honest, in a packed gym that no one can move in, I saw a soft funny meme, it was like, go to your local gym at 7pm.
00:48:16
killianginnity
and How do they keep attracting players?
00:48:18
Conor Glennon
Because it's 8 year contracts, that's why.
00:48:20
killianginnity
but but How players going to know what's going to be class? Not playing.
00:48:33
Nate
It's just like, the whole Chelsea's gone. It literally is like, I think the mental thing is like, and also like as a rival fan you're almost like please don't transfer abandon and we wanted to spend more money like keep spending money
00:48:47
Conor Glennon
Yeah, but and like even on the Gallagher one though, like the thing that even confuses me more on it, and and and I'm interested to see your takes on this, but like Gallagher, like I said, one of the best players last year, they forced him out and bring in a player in Yow Felix who didn't perform well for them. They let go and they're like, Oh yeah, here's a six year deal. Like it's genuinely, it's like an eight year olds at the top of the table, you know?
00:49:13
Nate
It's like a...
00:49:13
killianginnity
Are we sure Bully isn't an Arsenal fan?
00:49:16
Conor Glennon
In disguise, yeah.
00:49:18
killianginnity
Because like I've never seen a team buy and get worse in that way.
00:49:23
Conor Glennon
He had
00:49:25
killianginnity
United made a good stab at it with um wait
00:49:27
Conor Glennon
a good era there, yeah.
00:49:28
Nate
Shout out, Woodward.
00:49:29
killianginnity
Yeah, yeah, like for a good few years from Moyes, Van Haldog, there was, yeah, like, there was a good couple of times you're kind of like, hmm, you've bought down. um Chelsea have not just bought down, they have given away down, they have dug down, they have scraped every barrel until you're getting the bare metal. um like And on paper, a lot of them should work. Like, when you look at Mudrick play,
00:49:58
Conor Glennon
He was the star of this debacle.
00:49:59
killianginnity
and Yeah, but when you look at him play, it would make you question, if I was an Arsenal fan, I do, kind of going, ooh, how bad is your scouting?
00:50:07
Nate
flu
00:50:08
killianginnity
Why were you in for him?
00:50:09
Nate
yeah
00:50:10
killianginnity
Like, when you look at like Enzo Fernandez, he how how well he started and how meh he's become, it's kind of like, oh, right. They are the benchmark on which all, so like, you should be, every other team should be judging their scouting department, kind of going, oh, why were you in for them?
00:50:27
killianginnity
Ew.
00:50:27
Nate
Yeah, but that's, I'm like waiting, like, when does the club go up in flames? like
00:50:32
Conor Glennon
But that's what I'm saying, like it's it's not even a ha ha thing, it's like, how is it still working?
00:50:37
Nate
And like in terms of in terms of, say, the people ah bought like people that are running the club in directors and stuff, it's like, how long until people start jumping ship number one?
00:50:38
killianginnity
isn't.
00:50:49
Nate
And how long until they start blaming each other? they're like Because yeah yeah so yeah you forget, they've got some high level execs in there to run the club like.
00:50:58
Conor Glennon
But like, wha- if you're Pedro Netto, why on earth did you go there?
00:50:58
Nate
That they've got some high level execs in there to run the club like.
00:51:03
Conor Glennon
Like, he could've gone anywhere!
00:51:07
killianginnity
like they They have to be the Premier League's version of Saudi.
00:51:11
Conor Glennon
What the- y- yes.
00:51:11
killianginnity
like i'm i'm I'm going there because I don't care about my career, I just want the money. And I know I'm going to get the money. um
00:51:18
Nate
Where'd they get the money from though?
00:51:18
killianginnity
like
00:51:19
Conor Glennon
But that's the thing, like, and I know, you know, we've talked about ah on the pub before, like the financial gymnastics that they did with the women's team to, you know, cover off the balance sheet.
00:51:28
Nate
The hotel.
00:51:30
Conor Glennon
I should all, I should say allegedly just to cover ourselves, but like it's, it, it again, allegedly looks like a Ponzi scheme.
00:51:33
Nate
The famous hotel.
00:51:42
Conor Glennon
You know, it genuinely bangs of a Bernie made off type operation. I don't know how it's still functioning.
00:51:50
killianginnity
I reckon it will all end up coming out as being the 4-4-3 version of financing. Like what Todd Bowley said to Tuchel, I want to play a all no four, Todd Bowley turned around to Thomas Tuchel when he first started and says, I want us to play a four, four, three.
00:52:00
Conor Glennon
Oh, 442.
00:52:06
Conor Glennon
Oh, for Christ's sake.
00:52:07
killianginnity
And I think that's what's happening here, is that they're kind of going, look, it all makes sense. that Look, there's 11 players. slowly yeah And this eventually somebody's gonna come in and go, actually, none of this makes sense.
00:52:22
killianginnity
ah That's illegal, that's illegal. How how did you get away with that for so long? No, get rid of that. They are buying and selling and getting everything ready for a transfer ban. They know what's coming.
00:52:34
Nate
But also, like I'd be worried with how that closer in run is like, is there any legal issues that are going to arise from it? Because there's just so much money getting thrown about. I genuinely, I don't know if I was a Chelsea fan of how I genuinely feel about it. like like it don't It's not your club anymore. like it's It's not the same club that you support.
00:52:59
Conor Glennon
But like it's, it's, it's look, I've never been big on Chelsea, but I, I don't understand or not understand.
00:52:59
Nate
ah
00:52:59
killianginnity
No.
00:52:59
Nate
jen
00:53:11
Conor Glennon
I don't want to see them get relegated. The league needs a club like Chelsea to survive. But when you see that what they're doing, you're kind of like just get gone, you know?
00:53:24
Nate
Basel and...
00:53:24
killianginnity
I have to admit, I'm slightly very excited by the whole thing.
00:53:30
Nate
That's like the easy word.
00:53:30
killianginnity
Because I reckon for, no, no, so sort of, but like I reckon that Sunderland is going to pick up a good few like youths prospects for like a fraction of the money, probably would sell on like percentages.
00:53:30
Conor Glennon
Just from a shit house way or like...
00:53:32
Nate
I knew it!
00:53:43
Conor Glennon
When shit hits the fan, like...
00:53:44
killianginnity
And shit, it's the fan. We're going to pick up the likes of Unamari, Kellyman, that kind of a player and get them for small money. Like what we've been kind of doing anyway, but that we either when we're about to win the championship or get, or when we're back in the Premier League and we're just going to get to all these class little players take a year or two and they're going to be worth 40, 50, 60 million.
00:54:06
killianginnity
And then Chelsea under whatever oligarch to get next, I'm going to buy them back for.
00:54:11
Conor Glennon
Now I have to say, you know, we're not a Premier League only podcast.
00:54:12
killianginnity
but
00:54:15
Conor Glennon
Who did your bag of, you know, bag of bastards get on over the weekend?
00:54:20
killianginnity
Oh, Sunderland's coming back to the Premier League next year, so it's going to be class.
00:54:22
Nate
Yeah, yeah yeah.
00:54:24
killianginnity
We we won 4-0 this weekend and in game week two.
00:54:26
Conor Glennon
Four. I remember seeing his 1-0 up before.
00:54:30
killianginnity
Yeah. Um, we had our young striker and Mienda from Spain, who a lot of people were kind of like, Ooh, don't know if he's going to be there. Cause there's a lot of question marks over whether we're signing strikers or not.
00:54:43
killianginnity
He scored two goals. Luco nine is amazing in the championship. Jack Clark is just unbelievable. Dennis Sorkin Irish eligible. Got a goal and on an assist. So everything's looking up middle house.
00:54:54
killianginnity
We got Joe Bellingham to sign a new contract as well.
00:54:56
Nate
Yeah, I thought I was crazy.
00:54:57
killianginnity
Um, God, I think it's amazing.
00:54:58
Conor Glennon
Yeah, Jesus, I did not know that. How long did you sign in for? well are is he ah Well, are you just signing them so that and when it comes to selling them, you're just able to up the fee?
00:55:02
killianginnity
28.
00:55:08
killianginnity
No, we've extended him until 28 so that he will keep on for at least this year. He's committed to at least this year. So it's it's a little bit of both, but it's he's realized his best development is getting minutes in this team.
00:55:21
killianginnity
Like, our midfield starting tree at the weekend gone was something like 20 or 21. We had 17-year-old Chris Rigg, 19-year-old, 18-year-old, Joe Bellingham, and ah ah who was the other... Equa, I think it was, he was like 24. Like, it's insane. It it it is absolutely class.
00:55:43
killianginnity
um So we will be back in the Premier League next year and it's going to be fun. I can't wait. We will go straight back down but we're going to enjoy it. um
00:55:51
Nate
Yeah, I'm just saying gonna mark out this time in this podcast and go back to this at the end of the season. they lose a too nail in the playoff semiourable
00:56:01
killianginnity
Reggie Labrie is incredible and I love that man. Nobody's ever heard of him but
00:56:07
Conor Glennon
I was about to say you could easily be making someone up right now.
00:56:10
killianginnity
Yeah, he he was at L'Oréon and he was part of their youth academy. um So he's used to playing players. We still have Celine Mbappe ruining a transfer for us, which is like another day in Sunderland.
00:56:23
killianginnity
And ah we're looking at signing somebody from Zenith, St. Petersburg.
00:56:27
Nate
oh
00:56:28
killianginnity
um So like we are playing with the big boys.
00:56:28
Nate
Ooh.
00:56:30
killianginnity
and But speaking of the big boys, we've made his way to the whole podcast, Nate, Talk history United.
00:56:39
Nate
Yeah, that's business as usual. We'll get three points. First opening game of the season.
00:56:44
killianginnity
You say usual.
00:56:46
Nate
This is the new usual killing, okay? We're on a title charge. But generally, 1-0, not a flattering result. We got the job done. It probably could have been more, but I genuinely thought we played really good football, and which I could not say for last season. So I was very happy with how we played. Mazarawi had a real game. He's looking like an absolute bargain at 12 million.
00:57:13
Nate
and Casamiro was like, I think he had the highest expected assists this game week so he could be back to his normal self and Xerxes got the goal on his debut. so
00:57:25
Conor Glennon
I didn't see you. What was it like?
00:57:28
Nate
It was a low cross in and toe poked in off the front of his foot. It was a great finish.
00:57:36
Conor Glennon
They all count.
00:57:36
Nate
a Yeah, so I'm happy. and I think one of our issues is winners. I think we might have too many winners currently. We're sort of struggling to fit our match going out and rushing into the team.
00:57:50
Nate
So I think we have to try and nail in on one of them. for But other than that, Bruno could have had two goals and Kobe made it as as ever.
00:58:06
Nate
What a guy.
00:58:07
Conor Glennon
That man's young sedan, even Skol's set up.
00:58:11
Nate
Mate, he's going to the top. like I don't know what I'd say. at like
00:58:17
killianginnity
On the winger issue though, like he's had a lot of football to play this season.
00:58:21
Nate
Yeah.
00:58:21
killianginnity
like There is Europe and all that. um Have you noticed any difference in how Tenhag is setting up this year versus last year? Is he adjusting to new players or is the new players adjusting to his his formations?
00:58:33
Nate
I don't know if he's doing either one, I don't know which one he's doing but there's a more defined style so a lot more carrying off the centre backs but we're using our wingers to pin them back more which is promising because for some reason when lower sides come to Old Trafford they get this buff where they just want to attack all game.
00:58:57
Conor Glennon
Lower sides, you hear
00:59:01
Nate
that's I'm going to be arrogant, I'm talking about United. But yeah, there was a much more defined, Bruno and Xerxes sort of played off each other when Xerxes came on, which was really good to see. And yeah, there's just like, it's more of a build up now rather than Kamikaze get the ball up top. So um but um I'm excited to see how it develops.
00:59:25
Conor Glennon
one thing
00:59:25
killianginnity
Do you think Anthony is going to be a victim this year?
00:59:27
Nate
Who?
00:59:29
killianginnity
Anthony?
00:59:30
Nate
and I think he's been a victim since he's got here. I don't, yeah, I don't see where he, like, if he stays, he's getting Europa League minutes, I suppose. But if, to be honest with you guys, I'd rather have kept Polestri than kept Anthony I. I'll say that.
00:59:49
Nate
and
00:59:50
killianginnity
R.I.G. Polestri. Rest in Greece.
00:59:52
Nate
yeah You know, it's like, now that I'm thinking about it more and you mention it, like, Europa League Minnesota would have been perfect for him.
00:59:54
Conor Glennon
and
01:00:00
Nate
Like, him and, him and I, I didn't know Europa League, like, like, he's a genie.
01:00:04
Conor Glennon
Be ripping it up.
01:00:06
killianginnity
I'm so excited to see Ahmad in the Premier League this year. He's going to be class.
01:00:11
Nate
You know, I was raving about him even when he was at something and stuff, but I actually don't think I realized how good he actually is. Like,
01:00:19
killianginnity
He's one of these players that as soon as he realizes, which I think it's happening at United. As soon as he realizes he is actually better than most of the players around him, it just switches on and he just becomes amazing.
01:00:30
killianginnity
Like, I think he kind of, he got a little bit nervous at United and now he's looking at Anthony kind of going, Oh, you're getting minutes.
01:00:36
Conor Glennon
He just needs to keep his head though.
01:00:36
killianginnity
Ah, yeah, I'm just kidding.
01:00:38
Conor Glennon
He needs, he needs to.
01:00:39
Nate
we
01:00:39
killianginnity
No, he, he's going to pray that needs a little bit of cock.
01:00:40
Nate
We... that's the type of guy he is.
01:00:42
killianginnity
He needs a little bit of cockiness.
01:00:43
Conor Glennon
Really?
01:00:43
killianginnity
He needs a little bit.
01:00:43
Nate
But I...
01:00:44
killianginnity
Yeah, he does. As soon as he gets that kind of level of confidence, he turns on, he turns through a little magician and tries things. That's the difference.
01:00:51
Nate
i and I know I mentioned it before, but he's another player that has low centre gravity. I love like ah love watching his players when they're low to the ground and can control their body movement much much better than, like say, a taller player guy.
01:01:08
Nate
He's just so fun to watch. and I genuinely think he's going to be an assist machine and into his erks here.
01:01:13
killianginnity
Oh, he's a, he's a gold machine as well. Like what, what Rashford used to do for you is from the left, Ahmad can do.
01:01:16
Nate
He's got some shot on him.
01:01:22
Nate
Yeah, so I think like we have a good, I think we've really good depth in the attacking area now. With wingers, two too young strikers, I'm excited. One of them is going to have to take the reign this season.
01:01:33
Nate
and I'm excited to see who that is.
01:01:34
killianginnity
Hmm.
01:01:35
Nate
And I'm like, yeah, like Nainu, Ahmad, Garnaccio, Hoyland, Xerxes, like that's a really good young quarter, Euro.
01:01:46
Conor Glennon
one name One name I'm not hearing is is is Sancho.
01:01:46
killianginnity
Nate, I
01:01:49
Conor Glennon
Have we found a home for that man?
01:01:51
Nate
no lads I think i last last season I made my opinions on Sancho very clear. and I think one should turn your back on a United jersey, there's no real way back. and like If he stays, he stays, but I don't think I'll ever look at him as the same player as I previously did, just because I'm sure you use the exact same with your club. If you turn your back on the jersey,
01:02:18
Conor Glennon
Was he forced to?
01:02:20
Nate
No, like he wasn't forced to, like he wasn't forced to come out and make a statement, was he?
01:02:26
Conor Glennon
Fair.
01:02:28
Nate
Like he's the one that blew that up, number one, but yeah.
Manchester United's Future Potential
01:02:33
Nate
So to be honest, I think best case scenario is cash in, get 40 million or whatever for him and just call it a day.
01:02:42
killianginnity
Um, do you think the likes of a Shea Lacey is going to get any breakthroughs this year?
01:02:47
Nate
hoping he does that's actually yeah like he's he's the one that he's knocking on that door he's playing under 21 football now and looking like someone like one of the best on the pitch um like it's just mental like he's 16 like i he's <unk>s generally unbelievable and um i
01:03:05
killianginnity
And he's Irish eligible.
01:03:06
Nate
Yeah. And I haven't, talk I've had a few chats with him actually over Twitter as well. So he's he's been like saying how he's properly going for a, going for the first team. So I think he might get a break too this year, whether that's Anton Big or just a few sober appearances. I think he may be on the
01:03:29
Conor Glennon
Send us his address. I'll i'll get a few pallets of tato over to Manchester and we'll get we'll get that signature for for the Arden team.
01:03:39
killianginnity
We need a Agent Nate on it.
01:03:41
Nate
yeah and ah yeah like He's such an exciting player. he that the you know I always hype up young players and stuff, but he's one that I've been told about is special. like More than a Rashford coming out of the U team, more than an actual, this lad is special.
01:04:02
Nate
so
01:04:03
killianginnity
I think if he can get a breakthrough into into any matchday squad ah this season,
01:04:08
Conor Glennon
He'll have his moment.
01:04:10
killianginnity
it know It'll buy 10 hag a lot of buy-in from players. I think from not just players, but from their fans that they'll start to go, okay, this is the United we recognize.
01:04:20
killianginnity
This is Academy.
01:04:20
Nate
Yeah.
01:04:21
killianginnity
This is theater of dreams. Let's make this stuff happen. And I think that's kind of where Sancho and Anthony has been rubbing people up the wrong way. These are big fees.
01:04:32
killianginnity
They're not trying turning your back on it or just not being good enough. I think that kind of stuff pisses fans off. Whereas if you have the likes of Rick Aronaccio, I know he was bought in, but he still did his time, likes of an Ahmad who went out alone and is now fighting his way back in, likes of a lazy coming through.
01:04:51
Nate
If you're good enough, like you're old enough, find it.
01:04:52
killianginnity
I think that, oh, absolutely.
01:04:53
Nate
Like, like, you know.
01:04:54
Conor Glennon
That's the thing.
01:04:56
killianginnity
But I just think that would, that would do a lot of buy-in to what Radcliffe has been talking about this whole time. If he can do that, suddenly people go, okay, this is, we've turned a corner.
01:05:05
Nate
And Twitter would go into meltdown. Twitter would go into, if he was, if he was named on the bench, Twitter would go into meltdown. But he has been training it with the first team. Like, so like he is training with the first team.
01:05:18
Nate
So guess what?
01:05:19
killianginnity
And as seen in Sunderland, the youth can win things.
01:05:22
Nate
Yeah? Why have you zoned?
01:05:26
killianginnity
Games.
01:05:27
Conor Glennon
Heart and mind, apparently.
01:05:27
Nate
Yeah?
01:05:30
killianginnity
ah Hey, hey, hey, we have a fantastic fan in Jude, Bellingham. So it's more than what Newcastle have.
01:05:38
Nate
Birmingham fan I heard.
01:05:39
Conor Glennon
Yeah, same.
01:05:41
killianginnity
Oh, yeah, well, but when was the last time he was at a Birmingham game? He's at every third Sunderland game.
01:05:46
Nate
start retiring and everything over there, you know, maybe, maybe I suddenly of need to retire to do a battling up here.
01:05:55
killianginnity
Trust me, when Job is done with us, we'll consider it. And on that bombshell, gentlemen, that has been Game Week 1 in the Premier League. We are so back. Can't wait for the next week. Chatches then.
01:06:09
Conor Glennon
but Bye-bye.
01:06:10
Nate
Bye.