Podcast Introduction and Humor
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I'm Trish Tilby with WARC reporting to you live from Westchester, New York, where there appears to be some sort of mutant menace on the loose.
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Hey, I'm Pat Reber. And I'm Matt Allcamp. And say it with his P. Welcome to Mutant Menace.
Podcast Schedule and Listener Engagement
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Whoa. Whoa. It's Patrick. episode, because released one.
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it is twenty twenty six the first recorded episode of twenty twenty six but not the first released episode because we released one on January 1st. If you haven't listened to it, go back and listen to that. Go listen! Otherwise you're trapped in last year!
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Maybe let this play on mute somewhere so we still get the credit for you listening.
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Oh! All right. End of instructions. Folks, it is time for the first Pat's Email Corner. Of 2026, Matt, are you ready? but if But if you are still stuck in 2025, go back and listen to the last episode. But again, leave this one on a mute and play this. at And then when you listen to this one, play that other one again on mute. ah the other computere If you have two computers, always listen to two mute.
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This is how you get top 1% static.
Pat's Email Corner and Listener Compliments
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ah Welcome to Pat's Email Corner. I'm going to start us off with a new emailer. No no way Listener Douglas. Douglas. Hey. He's a new emailer. He loves the podcast.
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Yay! Welcome, Douglas. I want to clarify something here because we very much appreciate that he wrote just a long list of compliments. Matt and I are infamously bad at accepting compliments, and we love them, right? Matt, i was I'm sure you, as much as I, feel validated probably more so than I should by people complimenting me. My head grows and grows for a few minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But...
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If we were to get into the specific compliments that people are giving us, ah both Matt and I would ruin any illusion that you have about this show being good. We would apologize. We would point out all of our own flaws. We are just pathologically unable to accept compliments. So we, you know, we have that thing that some millennials have, especially older millennials, where ah it is.
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we I think this is just called ah egotism. where Either we are the worst pieces of shit in the entire world and everything about us is horrible and ah and anything we do sucks. Or we're absolute fucking geniuses and nobody can touch what we do.
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And there's no in between. There's no point where we're just like, yeah, we're fine. We're fine people. it It's either we rule or God, we suck so bad. it's It's not even vacillating between the two. It is just both holding both at the same time. Always.
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ah So Douglas, thank you so much for writing in Please continue everybody, not just Douglas to write in compliments to us. But Douglas, we do expect a compliment each week from here on out.
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ah One compliment a week, Douglas. It's it's not that hard to do. But we are very grateful. Thank you for writing in. i got another email from ah regular emailer Ink Master. Hey, Ink Master.
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i should actually say, Matt, two emails. We have been oh is We've taken a break for the holidays, right? We did some. As we were very honest about, we recorded out of sequence a bit. And now...
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We're back in the new year recording on time, but we have ah a whole stack of emails. So a lot of people have written in twice. A few episodes have passed since ah since we last checked the mailbox. And you call it a stack because you do print them out on like 0.5 inch weight paper.
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Right. You print them out on really thick pieces of paper. Heavy cardstock. Stamp an address on them and then mail them to us. So that you you you do this so that you have a stack every time we have an episode.
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That's right. You got to work off a stack.
Listener Stories: X-Men and Marvel Connections
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But Ink Master, first email referring to episode 39 says, hey, Pat, tell Matt that I'm pretty sure my first exposure to the X-Men, we asked this apparently because a lot of people are telling us. I'm i'm glad. I like this.
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My first exposure to the X-Men was just through general osmosis. But if that's not an acceptable answer, I'm pretty sure it was Marvel and X-Men character encyclopedias I found at the library.
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I thought that was really cool. Just... ah the idea I know a lot of people that got into Star Wars this way of just stumbling upon a big book of lore somewhere that's like got a ton of really cool photos in it or ah drawings, illustrations, and then a bunch of facts. And you just you can just retain all these facts. You read it a thousand times and suddenly without ever having seen ah Gremlins, you know everything about Gremlins.
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gizmo and how he works but the thing about ink master is that he absorbed this through osmosis so he put himself into a tank of water with one of these encyclopedias concentrated x-men and it's and it pierced his uh his soft membranes looking for lower density areas ah sp as he knows for us that's not an acceptable answer that is science taken too far
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i He also says, also, while I don't want to get too political, I did want to say that as a Christian, I appreciated your discussions on the hypocritical nature of people who manipulate the Bible to justify their bigotry and how the Bible itself calls out these kinds of people.
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Hmm. So thank you, Ink Master, for your thoughts on episode 39. I'm going move on before we make excuses for our good behavior. yeah i just i think it's I think it was good that we had somebody who ah speaks about his Christian faith publicly on the episode.
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We would have only been able to... comment on that to such an extent. as Right. From a probably pretty jaded perspective. Right. So I'm glad I'm like really, really glad that you got something useful out of that because, ah it you know, I think Andre was like an incredible guest to have on for that specific episode.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ink Master, in response to episode 40, says, hey, Pat, tell Matt that he's not alone. And I, too, find the concept of iced milk insane and upsetting.
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It's crazy. Okay. It's really crazy. I will own up to one thing after after recording ended. On that episode with roses, knowing that we weren't going to get to another recording session for two or three weeks, I openly admitted that eggnog with ice in it was disgusting. That was not the right choice.
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I'll own up to that, but I will not remit. About milk with ice in it. If you're drinking milk that isn't like ice cold, that isn't cold because it is touching a piece of ice, that's disgusting. I don't think you I don't think people should be drinking a glass of milk.
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Yeah, but I agree with that as well. I i haven't had a glass of milk in like 10 years. Just eat cheese. Yeah, just eat your cookies with a big hunk of cheese.
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Okay, so that is one more vote for Milk Without Ice, but we still outnumber you, Ink Master, well with pro-Milk With Ice votes.
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They also finish up saying, P.S. loved having Roses on the show as someone that also follows Save Your Game. Aw, thank you. So, yeah, shout out to Roses. That was a Very fun guest. He's a banger of a guest. Banger of an episode.
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Banger of a podcast.
Insights on Marvel and Podcast Themes
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Moving on. Thank you, Ink Master. We're going to talk to email Michael next. In response to episode 39, he says, Hey, Pat, tell Matt that since he asked how people were first introduced to the X-Men as kids, I told you we asked.
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I might as well give my answer. Being roughly past age, I was young enough that the n NES was my first game console. 24? Yeah.
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That's weird. I don't think I was born when the NES came out and i And in or my dad who was born in and actually still had boxes comics...
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picked up picked up the LJN game, the uncanny X-Men to try to share his love of the series with me. Oh, no. If you've ever heard of it or LJN, and you probably know that it's a truly awful game. But yeah even when I was so young, I could barely read the manual. I was smart enough to realize that the characters and the world of X-Men were interesting, even if the game was bad. A couple of years later... couldn't fucking figure it out. I couldn't fucking figure that game out. I tried to play that game, and it was like it wouldn't... It was... it was i thought my cartridge was bugged because it's just like I couldn't make anything happen. And then later,
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i played it on an emulator and was like, yeah, no, this is just the game. The game is a game where almost could happen. This just an impossible game. yeah LJN did eventually do Wolverine Adamantium Rage, which I think was a, that was that was a good one.
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LJN is a game studio, I assume? Yes, they did. And they did um ah Spider-Man and Venom Maximum Carnage too. ah Okay. All right. wait This doesn't save your game.
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He goes on a couple of years later in 1992, I got a copy of the Marvel X-Men guidebook in 80 page paperback by Dwight John Zimmerman full of illustrations that I read cover to cover many times. You can find it on archive.org if you search for it. Thank you. Email Michael. Another first interaction with an encyclopedia.
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Yeah. Yeah. That was just in time for the Fox Kids animated series. And that was that. And then he signs off the functionally illiterate criminal. Email Michael. that true his episode 40 entry begins hey pat tell matt that i'm sure you guys already know that the saxophone was audible in the episode but you still asked so i gotta say that yes it was that i cracked it up i cracked it up i found spots where you were not talking and i just got the saxophone and i cracked it up to like 300 percent It was so present. It was also, it was so, it was really, it gave a little Christmas charm to the episode, I think.
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Thank you to everyone else for not mentioning it. But of course, email Michael wouldn't miss a detail like that. That's why we love him. Matt's also right that putting ice in milk is an abomination. Yeah. Even if he's outnumbered, which he's not anymore, I guess. It doesn't change that that fact. There are probably at least three worst things a person can do, but it's still pretty bad. However, as someone who commits several abominations every day, I'm in no place to judge. Do what you want, but don't pretend it's okay.
Listener Feedback and Engagement
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such. Fuck. You got so fucked there, buddy. Says Pat was right about the pronunciation of Masamune as Masamune. But when I was a kid, I also pronounced it Masamune. So I get it.
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While I'm here, I might as well be really pedantic and say that Pat mispronounced Shuriken. It's Shuriken. And the G in poor Shingen's name kept getting pronounced like a J for no reason. We were saying Shinjin. It is Shingen, which I think everyone corrected you on after your first attempt to say it.
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Okay, but don't act like I'm crazy. You said for no reason you can think of it. In the English. Hinge. Fence. Right. In the English language, these soft consonants, when they're followed by an e Turn are these. Yeah, they turn soft. so a Fringe.
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I get that it's wrong. I'm willing to be wrong, but don't act like I'm crazy. Don't say no reason you can think of. You can think of the reason. He's from the tone of this email. I think he's pretty mad. He goes on to pronounce i pretty condescendingly a few different things.
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Japanese words we've been getting wrong, which is fair. We probably deserve that. Fun fact, though, he says Shinjin in the way it kept getting pronounced means, among other things, new guy.
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And at first I thought that's what the story was trying to say about him. Of course, if you actually gave a damn about how to pronounce Japanese words, you'd have already looked that up on your own. So I'm sure I'm wasting my time. But what is Pat's email corner? Really, if not an opportunity for me to waste my time on this earth.
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We all die someday. email Michael. Oh, love email, Michael. Thank you for calling and writing in to correct us. i guess We do care. We just also sometimes ah think that we know stuff we don't.
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Yeah, yeah. That's our our my best quality and Matt's biggest flaw. It's thinking, you know, stuff you don't is thinking we know stuff we don't. Yeah, yeah. i My response to all of this is just ah email Michael.
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You okay, buddy? Weapon Jason.
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ah weapon jason Also loves the show. He sent us a very nice just year-end wrap-up email to say, like, we're great. So thank you very much, Weapon Jason. ah He's also got some responses here. He says, hey, Pat, tell Matt, since y'all aren't going to cover marvel Marvel Superhero Contest of Champions, let me pull a couple interesting and X-Men-related bits from that miniseries.
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Oh, cool. This is, yeah, this is awesome. Yeah, yeah, this is very handy and will keep us up to date on a thing that would be a waste of our time to read. um No offense to Weapon Jason who read it.
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Not just the first limited series, the comics also included a very, very early raw form of the official handbook for the Marvel Universe, which listed all the heroes with a very brief power and first appearance note.
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Okay. cool Art by John Romita Jr. doing art before he develops his more distinct style that will turn up in the uncanny X-Men very soon. Right now, he's still more or less doing sort of the Marvel House style. And fan favorite Bill Mantlo has some writing assists. Oh, great. ah Yeah, i'm I'm excited for John Romita Jr. to get here, especially because he does. Yeah, this is X-Men is where he sort of, i think, develops that sort of blocky, interesting style that he has.
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ah he says, if Pat's not aware, I suspect Matt is, the plot of the series is that every superhero on Earth in Marvel, including a handful of invented for the series problematic stereotypes from various countries, are pulled together to compete on teams as part of a bet between the Grandmaster and death.
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If Grandmaster wins, then the Collector will be returned to life. Weapon Jason, i know. know.
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I played the Contest of Champions mobile game on my phone. Countless hours poured into it. So don't tell me about the Contest of Champions.
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I mean, do. It's what you're doing right now. but Yeah, please do. i we like it when you do. Despite having all of the heroes to pick from, only two teams of 12 are used. The only X-Men related characters chosen are Wolverine, Storm, Angel. Yes, Angel. Only picking their best and brightest.
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Unsurprisingly, once the teams are transported to places they're going to have to compete, Sunfire bails on everyone to get the glory himself. He fights Darkstar to basically a draw. Wolverine smokes and tries to be a tough guy and also goes all loner. He fights Black Panther for a bit, but it doesn't go anywhere. Angel, who's trained his whole life to fly in flying in combat with the X-Men, gets his ass handed to him by the newly invented French stereotype, Le Peregrine, who speeds in zats and zests and nevers.
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And apparently, oh, I think that's French onomatopoeia. Yeah. Yeah. That is how I will beat you. will never. Never. I get it. That's good.
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That's a good phonetic spelling. Angel does defeat him, but only by grabbing a stick and bashing the guy in the noggin with it. Storm is pretty much Storm in charge and far more capable than anyone else on her team. She gets to stomp Blitzkrieg, the stereotype German hero. yeah Yikes. Wow. Yeah. Why would you call yourself that Sasquatch gets beaten by the collective man, the Chinese hero who can call on the power of tens of thousands of his countrymen to become super strong. I think he becomes, I think he has some place in X-Men history too, like later on. Jeez.
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ah In the end, the Grandmaster wins, but the price of victory is he has to sacrifice himself to return the collector to life, which has no consequences or plot effects ever. Cough, cough.
Email Segment Conclusion
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amazingly considering how Marvel would, what's he going for there? The cough, cough that it, there's a, I don't, I guess that does end up having plot.
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I don't know anything about it. Too subtle weapon. Jason, he says, amazingly considering how Marvel would approach having heroes fight heroes in the 21st century. This is done in three issues and not multi-year event crossovers running through all the books.
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Thank you. Weapon Jason. I hope everybody for three issues. It might have been worth it for us to read that. Yeah, no we don't need to. But now we don't need to. Thank you. Weapon Jason. You've saved us ah an hour.
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but Only one last email. Wow. Are you ready? Yeah. This one comes from another regular. It's ambitious. Eric ambitious. Eric.
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Says, hey, Pat, tell Matt the infrequency and lateness of my emails is due to my boundless ambition. My reach often exceeds my grasp. In recompense, I will indeed cash in on my second hat to throw in the ring, which I understand is an additional larger hat for joining you on the next recap podcast, whenever that may be. All right. Two tooths two ah two chips for ambitious Eric.
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Two hats. Two hats in the hat. Two hats in the hat. We're putting hats in a hat. Which is funny. ah And if anyone tells you it's not funny, they're wrong.
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He goes on, he says, I have to compliment you both, but especially Matt on how you respond to the characters as they're presented on the page. Matt always says Storm is so cool for doing this or stuff like this is why I like Wolverine, putting the characters actions on their shoulders instead of the more meta approach of attributing it to writers.
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That's so genuine and so awesome and inspires me to be a better, more enthusiastic reader. Thank you. I mean, I think a project like this requires us to do that, right? I think it is important for us to comment on the writer's intent and what we think a writer is trying to say how a writer interprets a character. But I think if we are engaging on this project to follow the X-Men from the beginning to the end, we have to see their journeys as if they are one yeah one person who has lived through all of this and made all these decisions and acted in all these ways.
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Right. The writer's disposable, the character is not, which is marvel the Marvel editorial approach. But especially here at the beginning when who they are is still being built. He keeps going. He says, however, i now categorically disagree with Pat's decision to transparently read ads from other comics for Pat's deals and deals. He should be allowed to lie about it.
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that's that's year That's our own imposition, though. no None of our yeah yeah ah listeners told us to be transparent about It's no longer a unanimous vote from listeners. There's now one objection, but it's still it's not up to you. Thank you for your opinion.
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He's got some episode specific notes for us. He says, most ice cream I have consumed has had no eggs in it, though I have had frozen custard, which is delicious. This is in response to episode 40. More things should be custard. It's why eggnog is better than ice milk.
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Ice cream's made with eggs. Most ice cream is icem made with eggs. There is plenty of sorry vegan ice cream out there. They would make it without eggs. But I think like if you've had Breyers or Edie's on the other side of the country, if you've had – what's another national ice cream brand? Ben & Jerry's.
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But there are some – kind of like shittier brands and especially if you're getting like uh some sort of like just like ice cream bar yeah sure or you're probably dairy treat they're probably replacing eggs with some other kind of emulsifier to make it see like make it have the same consistency of uh ice cream but like make it a little yeah yeah he also says i can hear the jazz man that's two folks that were rude enough to mention that they can hear it and then It's so funny because it was like, I wonder if people can hear this. And then I was like, no, I need people. When I was editing, i was like, I need people to hear this and cranked it up. So now everybody's like, of course we can hear it.
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ah And then episode 41, says Pat's transmode could do numbers in the six hour sleep aid video circuit. Very calming. I ever since I read this have been thinking about it because I could I really just go.
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Oh, and like loop it for really my throat's a little scratchy. So maybe that one's not as beautiful. But let me know if you think I could make some money off of this because I could use it he says Jack Shithead has replaced Jim Stupid as my favorite euphemism for you know who. I'm not sure who he's talking about. He does approve of my use of the term cerebrated. He said that i it's it's an appropriate level of whimsy. So we'll be using that moving forward.
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What was this? Cerebrated? Cerebrated. Using cerebro. Cerebrating.
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don't remember this And then finally says Team America slash the Thunder Riders had more potential than their execution gave them. Captain Planet but with motorcycles is super dope on paper.
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How did they never do a team up with superhero trucker US1? This is a travesty. They were even being published at the same time. Marvel did the Thunder Riders dirty. May good fortune visit you in the new year, gentle menace.
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Aw. Thank you. Ambitious Eric. That is an ambitious email. A lot of stuff was covered. Yeah. Yeah. He even dipped into episode 41. He's the first one, which makes sense as an English email us about episode 41. So thank you. That's it, Matt. We're closing the mailbag.
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My, uh, my stack is empty. My inbox folder is thank you.
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Well, Pat, that was a fun Pat's email corner. ah We got through a lot. whom But now I gotta ask.
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Oh, what's that? ah It's been what? Three weeks since we recorded? Two weeks. Something like that. two to three weeks for sure. Did you anything X-Men related in that time? Oh, Matt, I have...
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Okay. And I want you to stick with me. Oh, no. I discovered, I think I've mentioned this to you and maybe sent you a think piece or two about it, that they have put the entirety of the Drew Carey show on YouTube. All right. I have no idea. Did you read any of the articles I sent you?
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It's okay didn't. have to get into it. Listen, the Drew Carey show was a childhood staple for me. i having a lot of spare time over the holidays and in general, have been sitting back and using our Mutant Menace YouTube account to watch through the Drew Carey show. just There's nine seasons of it. I've gotten through about five, almost five full seasons at this point.
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Very good. A lot of it holds up. There's a lot of stuff that you would expect for a 90s sitcom to get wrong around gender and sexuality and stuff like that. Sure. But...
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trying to approach it from a very compassionate angle. They just get things wrong. So I can say it's worth a rewatch, but with the caveat that it's a very 90s sitcom, but it's beautiful. it's like ah It's like a live stage play. They do this stuff with it that I can't imagine other sitcoms were doing so much of at the time.
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Interesting. Yeah, I mean, it's been... white how is this X-Men related? So, I'm glad you asked. I think... m And let me let me also start here.
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Bowen Yang um like how all right recently i resigned from Saturday yeah in Night Live to open himself up for, I'm sure, soon-to-be-announced role of Wolverine.
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I think, and maybe this gives you a better... A better view of my vision here. We should cast Drew Carey as the new Professor X.
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Your whole thing is just kind of like slightly chubby X-Men. No, no, no. Okay. Bowen Yang is very fit. Okay. And these days, Drew Carey isn't, i yeah I would love to have chubby X-Men, actually. well That's going to be a separate movie.
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Okay. But I think that, is and I hope, again, that this kind of paints a brighter picture of what I'm going for here, but I think that Bowen Yang is Wolverine and Drew Carey is our Professor character.
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would just make an incredible start to this team. Are we, are we still doing Timothy Chalamet as Nightcrawler? No, that was just fan casting.
00:28:23
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Okay. I'm still completely lost in your vision. here Okay. well Well, maybe as you keep adding people like, okay, your ideal, like who would your ideal Cyclops be?
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we're We're not going to go through everybody, but like I just want you to pull one more and put it in the cast, and then maybe I can start imagining. Okay. Let me think on that and i get back to you in a future episode. Okay. Matt.
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Yeah. Have you done anything X-Men related this week? Okay. Well, like Storm never is, I got sick. With this like death flu that's been going around. There's apparently one flu strain that didn't get caught by the ah flu vaccine.
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so it's almost like having a superpower in which you never get sick. And then one little plague gets through. Yikes. um I hope that never happens to Storm. But while I was sick.
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I sat at a friend's house and watched all the first season of Severance.
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It's really good. How is that a scene related? Oh, because the New Mutants, they ah watch Magnum PI together. and Which is also an old show. And Severance is... You know, people were talking about it like a year ago or two. yeah Both old shows that were very popular in their time.
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So Severance is really good. It's a really good show. I still haven't seen it, honestly. um It is... they take a very simple premise and they just start exploring it in different directions.
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I don't know if it's a simple premise, but they did like, it's, it's a fairly complex premise creatively, but like in, in that sci-fi way of you're like, this is so fucking brilliant. How, how has nobody thought of something? This sort of straightforward, this sort of straightforward idea before. um And then explore it in all these directions.
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And, It's just for a show that largely takes place in like a very small set.
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It is frequently just shocking and mind blowing. I don't want to give away since you haven't seen it. I'm going to pretend i'm going to treat our audience like they also haven't seen the first season and say I'm not going to blame more than that.
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it's called severance, you say? Yeah, it's called severance. Like like if you like like
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severance. Matt, that sounds like a great time, all of those things you just mentioned. you so You think me getting sick sounds like a great time. Thanks. Thanks, buddy.
00:31:22
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Let's get into things here, shall we? i mean, i want to it's been a long time. we Yeah, we're rusty. We got to brush brush off the cobwebs. For us. Not the listeners. They're not ah they're not too rusty themselves. No, you guys don't brush anything off. Leave it there.
Uncanny X-Men #169 Recap Part 1: Suspenseful Opening
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I think I'm going to start this year off, Matt.
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Don't get too ambitious. With uncanny X-Men number 169, Catacombs. Okay, yeah, that's what I did want you to do that, actually. Yes.
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Resolution fulfilled.
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ah Chris Claremont, writer Paul Smith, penciler Bob Wyacek, inker Bob Sharon, colorist we got the bobs got the bob luow Tom Orzikowski, letterer Louise Jones, editor Jim Juter, editor in chief release date February 8th, 1983, cover date May 1983, I am getting rusty I forgot we had to make up a name for him well I don't I try not to do it ahead of time but also i stumble over it every single time Candy Southern, remember her?
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remember her? Remember her? Returns to the Manhattan penthouse she shares with Warren Worthington, only to find him missing. a couple feathers stained with blood scattered across the floor.
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She runs to the phone and just manages to reach Professor X before a mutated, muscly arm spins her around. She screams as an off-panel figure named Sunder declares that he's there to hurt her.
00:32:56
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Could you imagine... Dating Warren in Worthington and having to like clean feathers out of everything all the time. Ew. Yeah, she sees the feathers and she's like, oh, here we go again. She's like, are you molting again, honey? and But she's finding them in shower drains and in her bed. And like they're they're poking her because they like jut into your flesh with that weird like hollow whatever it is. this Like an old down jacket. yay Yeah. featherther Like, what is that? look Okay. Like imagine, you know, when you pull a hair out and it ah sometimes has this like this like bead of flesh on the end.
00:33:38
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Like the roots. Yeah. Like the root. I guess it's the root. Yeah. If you pull a feather out. Of a human, of human skin.
00:33:49
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yeah What does that root look like? Like this bloody mass of... We think it probably just looks like any other feather that we find on the ground, right? It's just a... I don't, I don't know, man. i Birds are designed to lose those things without losing like a ton of blood. I don't know that humans are. Also, imagine the pimples you would get.
00:34:11
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From like a clogged pore from your feathers. Ew. All right. Here's what I'm more concerned about. Warren Worthington's penthouse doesn't have any fire exits.
00:34:22
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Candy goes for the door, the only door, and it's blocked by a big, muscly man. There's no alternate exit. That's why Sundar is there. He's upset that they didn't follow building codes.
00:34:38
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Professor X immediately summons Nightcrawler, catching him nude in a hot tub with Amanda Sexton. Hell yeah, dude. yeah Without a word, Kurt teleports off to see a dark figure without a word in the sense that they are getting down in the hot tub. And Kurt suddenly goes and then teleports out. That's all candy experience. We don't even have we don't even have a evidence that he gasps. It's just like she's.
00:35:10
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Imagine just being in the middle of foreplay with your partner and they just poof Like you might have something of theirs in your hand and it just like goes away.
00:35:25
Speaker
Well, without a word, Kurt teleports off to see a dark figure carrying a barely conscious angel into a subway tunnel. Before he has time to give chase, Candy Southern comes crashing through the window and Nightcrawler dives after her. Nude. he Fully nude. He's still nude. Yeah, yeah. He was with yous in the hut. And, okay, look.
00:35:46
Speaker
I don't want to get in. I don't want to look. We don't have to dwell on this, but he was getting down with Candy Southern. He's also probably fully erect at this point. He hasn't had time for it to go down.
00:35:56
Speaker
He returns to the apartment in a flash of fire and brimstone and much to a nude Amanda Sefton's dismay, splashes into the hot tub with Candy in his arms. It must be so horrible dating an X-Man. I'm, I am, who I am, I am having some intimate time with my lover.
00:36:16
Speaker
And then he disappears, pops back in with a woman in his arms and they splash into my hot tub while I'm fully nude.
00:36:27
Speaker
Meanwhile, we get a quick interlude with where Sebastian Shaw licking his wounds from that Freaky Friday story is summoned to the Hellfire Club by Tessa. The White Queen arrived with a warning and collapsed into a coma, leaving no clue as to which powerful telepath could have done this.
00:36:46
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Yeah, she like appeared and she's like, oh, I have ah i have a warning. And then before she got to say it, man, Jesus. what's What's going on here, Pat? I don't know. I wonder if this is related to all that stuff that was happening in The New Mutants.
00:37:01
Speaker
No, think. Psychic attacks. No, I don't know. No? Okay. Back at Amanda Sefton's apartment, everyone is clothed again. The X-Men have all gathered to hear Candy's tale and seek out Oren Worthington. Poor Amanda. No.
00:37:18
Speaker
Kurt had to be like, I am so sorry, do you mind if I also invite all my friends over? With Wolverine away in Japan, Storm wants the help of Wolfsbane to track Angel down, but Xavier says no.
00:37:32
Speaker
I think that was just to mention... Wolfsbane, right? Like, reference to new mutants? Maybe, but I think it's really cool, this idea that she's like, oh, we have multiple mutants with this utility, and he's like, no, do not think of them that way.
00:37:48
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yeah Do not think of them as one of your, like, as as a utility. They're children at a school. Also, this panel is really cool. Like, Paul Smith draws them all sitting around the living room, and you you kind of, like, feel it. You kind of like feel the coziness of it, even though it's weird and everybody's weird. And he draws Kitty like a child, which I really fucking appreciate. Yeah, Like an actual teenager.
00:38:12
Speaker
Yeah. Also, she's got a sick new costume. This came out of nowhere, but she's wearing, like, a bomber jacket, a bright green bomber jacket, and... Spots over her eyes instead of like a full mask with a big yellow collar and just like fucking big ah brown work gloves.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yeah. For some reason. It's very cool. It's very like 80s futuristic. Mm hmm. Instead, they use a mini Cerebro to track Angel, leaving Amanda and Lockheed behind to guard
Uncanny X-Men #169 Recap Part 2: Tension in the Sewers
00:38:44
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The Cerebro leads the X-Men into the subway, where a ticket taker has apparently been attacked as well. They move deeper and deeper into a series of catacombs between subway tunnels and sewers until they're suddenly ambushed by a group of ragged-looking men.
00:38:59
Speaker
As they fight, a group of mutants watch from the shadows. A live, dark-haired woman with an eye patch and a nose ring called Cow, a big, ape-like bald man named Sunder, a crooked, hideous creature in a hood named Mask, and a stocky, short, old woman named Plague.
00:39:17
Speaker
Kitty sneaks up behind the group in time to hear them discuss luring the X-Men into a trap when Cal catches her scent and sends her group to attack. Sprite phases just in time for Plague's hand to go through her and escapes, but she feels a tingle and Cal seems satisfied that even phased, Kitty's dead.
00:39:35
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Oh, also, we find out Kitty also hates the term Sprite. I know she's going by Sprite again, not Ariel, but she doesn't like it. She's like, I'm doing this.
00:39:49
Speaker
It's got to be just that Chris Claremont couldn't think of the right name. Like it it fits her being a child. Yeah, yeah. Just being always wanting change.
00:40:02
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Right, right. And not settling on something. Like, I think that's cool in a way. But I have a feeling that's just to cover up Chris Claremont and thinking not knowing what to call this character. Yeah. As the X-Men wrap up their fight, they notice that the sewer people took their unconscious with them and Storm surmises that this must have been a test.
00:40:28
Speaker
But now they're in the sewer with no one to question, no telepathic or radio contact with the surface. And on top of that, Kitty is missing. I love that the telepathic contact kind of works like a cell phone in the subway. like The further underground you get, the yeah the worse the reception is.
00:40:49
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Storm makes the hard decision to press on as following Angel is their only lead and her cold calculation doesn't escape the notice of Kurt and Peter.
Uncanny X-Men #169 Recap Part 3: Morlocks and Conflict
00:40:58
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Descending further, they find a massive, well-maintained tunnel over a thousand feet below the city and are suddenly caught in an array of spotlights.
00:41:07
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Adjusting to the light, they see a lavish train car pull into the center of the tunnel. On it is the eyepatch woman from earlier, in one hand a switchblade, and the other, the hair of Warren Worthington.
00:41:18
Speaker
Wait, what? He's in a diaper, his wings impaled above him on a large cushioned headboard, ropes holding his arms up by the wrist. He looks like he's being crucified. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is a very interesting image to hold in our heads of Warren in the more. Well, we're about to find out the name of them.
00:41:39
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Warren in these specific tunnels in that pose.
00:41:45
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It's something we should just like hold in our heads. Yeah, yeah.
00:41:50
Speaker
ah The woman's name is Callisto, Cal for short. and she's the leader And she's leader of the Morlocks, a group of subterranean mutants named after the monsters in H.G. Wells' The Time Machine, of course. yeah Chris Claremont, everybody is so well-read, and everybody's names are always lit, like yeah Caliban. Caliban, Ariel, and...
00:42:17
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ah Ariel and Sprite both, right? Yeah, yeah, are both Shakespeare references. ah They called those things in limbo the stepping discs. They're like, oh, it's like Larry Niven, his stepping discs. And now the Morlocks, which are when in the time machine, the character goes far, far into the future.
00:42:38
Speaker
Humanity has turned into these like underground spider monsters. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. what so I would say much like Sauron in my childhood, if you said to me, Morlocks, I would say, oh the X-Men characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I was also thinking when I was listing out all the times Claremont has done this, I was thinking Sauron, but that was actually Roy Thomas, right?
00:43:03
Speaker
I forget who he was pre Claremont, but I forget exactly who created Sauron. I think it was Roy Thomas and Neil Adams, right? That makes sense. It sounds very Roy Thomas and Neil Adams. Yeah, yeah, yeah Callisto kidnapped Angel because he's the most beautiful man in the world. And she means to marry him.
00:43:23
Speaker
What the fuck is... i can't understand what, like, her... All right, anyway. It's... I mean, it's... It is well established that women find...
00:43:34
Speaker
angel to be very attractive right that warren worthington just has a good body he's extremely rich i don't think the morlocks care about that part but uh he's got a nice face and beautiful blonde hair right but we're gonna find out that callisto is really like she's really fixated on protecting this one group of outsiders and rejecting the top where like the the the top side world and like what the fuck part of her ethics is and I'll kidnap a man and bring him down to marry me. Like that seems like so far from anything else we will ever learn about Callisto in the history, like the future of X-Men.
00:44:17
Speaker
It's it seems to me like she's taking a trophy, right? She's just like, all right, I've done a lot of good down here. It's time for me to get something good for myself.
00:44:28
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I guess I'll go marry the most beautiful man in the world. hey Callisto pops her switchblade and begins to cut away Warren's pin feathers, meaning to clip his wings and keep him from flying away.
00:44:42
Speaker
So the X-Men rush at her, met by an army of Morlocks. Storm takes to the sky, but is knocked down by Callisto's slingshot, while Colossus and Nightcrawler are quickly just overwhelmed.
00:44:53
Speaker
Yeah. Elsewhere in the sewers, Sprite stumbles out of a wall feeling ill and collapses face down in the sewer water. But luckily for her, a figure in familiarly garish garb rushes to her aid. It's Caliban. Remember him? Remember him?
00:45:12
Speaker
He means to save her and in doing so, make her fall in love with him. Ugh. It's very this is from Kitty Pryde's Natalie Portman era where yeah every man was just like, she must be mine. She'll love me. This was and if people if listeners don't remember, this was like when her and Storm and Dazzler and who was it?
00:45:37
Speaker
Stevie Hunter or something. No, it was Spider Woman. All right team, like, they were all at a concert. Well, they were at a Dazzler concert, and then this guy came in and he was like, I want friends, and you guys are mutants, and I can sense your mutants because I have a mutant-sensing power, and he attacked them, and he tried to... I guess he fell in love with Kitty. He tried to kidnap her and marry her, right?
00:46:01
Speaker
ah Exactly, yeah. he He kidnapped her and was like, but you should love me because... we're exactly right for each other. This is such a cool writerly trick that Chris Claremont pulled though. Like at the time it was like, who the fuck is what, what, what was the story? But then he planted just this character that could do specifically this whenever he wanted.
00:46:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like anytime could, he could at any point have kitty die in the streets and, And Caliban shows up by this yeah character that he just left off to the side for a few. Yeah.
00:46:42
Speaker
Just like a ah for a year, like a Chekhov's gun. Yeah. Yeah. Kitty wakes up later in a bed dressed in a nightgown. Yeah. She's sick as hell. uses the words, oh, my mom must have put me here. She must have undressed me. like Yeah, yeah, before she reads. It's like, okay, you didn't have to remind us this, Chris.
00:47:04
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She's sick as hell and can't even stand on her own.
00:47:11
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As she falls, Caliban catches her. He knows that this is the work of plague and he knows that plague is the only one who can save her from death. To be continued.
00:47:24
Speaker
Kitty's going to die. Seems like it. Yeah. Unless plague remits. we If I know plague, if I know plague, plague wouldn't do that.
00:47:37
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One note from me the in the interlude, when Emma Frost returns to the Hellfire Club and collapses, they say she's gone into catatonic schizophrenia. Yeah.
00:47:50
Speaker
which is a term that doctors have disavowed entirely. Yeah. I mean, the words that they use to describe various ah mental afflictions are always uncomfortable. Like how often they tell us that characters have quote autism.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Is always really uncomfortable. It's only going to get worse. Yeah. And that's it. Aside from Kurt dancing it around fully nude,
00:48:20
Speaker
Yeah, what would you call what would you call a naked naked ah Kurt Wagner? Well, I say this because we haven't said it yet. Nude crawler.
00:48:30
Speaker
All right, Pat, I'm going to tell you about Uncanny X-Men number 170, Dancing in the Dark. Ooh, who wrote it? ah Chris Claremont.
00:48:41
Speaker
Who penciled it? ah Paul Smith. don't Don't make me do the whole thing. Bob Wycheck inked it. R. Becton and Jay Casey were the colorist. Tom Orzakowski was the letterer. Louise Jones was the editor. And Slim Scooter was the editor-in-chief. Release date, March 8th, 1983. Cover date, June 1983. Reindeer Falls, Alaska.
00:49:04
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who Scott Summers is dancing. To be continued.
00:49:11
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No, Scott Summers is dancing his little butt off on his first date with Madeline Pryor, the employee of his grandfather who looks identical to Jean Grey. You know. Yeah, her.
00:49:21
Speaker
After a few weeks of getting to know each other while flying cargo all over the state. When it comes time to flip over the cassette tape.
00:49:33
Speaker
we've We've gone, we've officially gone from vinyl to cassette tape. We've reached it. We've reached the era, folks. Also, why? They're, like, outside. Are they, like, outside or are they in a big room with, like, glass walls? They are in a... So, we don't actually mention this in the recap, but Madeline saved the owner of this very fancy hotel from a fiery plane crash. So...
00:50:00
Speaker
But they can stay in this huge, it's like ah it's like a penthouse with 20 foot ceilings that's just entirely covered in glass in Reindeer Falls, Alaska.
00:50:11
Speaker
Okay. i i I thought they were outside and I just kept thinking, guys, it's cold out. You're in Alaska. Get inside, you kids.
00:50:22
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It's one of the luxury high rises of Reindeer Falls, Alaska. They do. When she goes to flip over the cassette tape, ah Madeline is pretty forward about getting down to business. She sure is. But Scott recoils when he sees her in front of the fireplace outlined in flame like a phoenix.
00:50:44
Speaker
o Remember Jean Grey was also pretty forward about getting down to business with Scott? She also lit up like a phoenix and lit up like a phoenix. That's true. I didn't think about that part.
00:50:57
Speaker
Madeline asks him what's up, and he pulls out a picture of Jean and finally reveals to her that she looks exactly like his dead fiance. Matt. Yeah. It's the exact same picture from Xavier's office. It is the glamour shot of her. She definitely went to the mall, got some glamour shots done and gave out copies to all her closest friends.
00:51:21
Speaker
Oh man. She, uh, yeah. It's like, it's her with her like hair flowing behind her. It's really good. Also, man, I am proud of Scott for this.
00:51:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I would think he would have hid this for 30 issues. it And then when it finally come came out, it would be like a huge, like betrayal. But now he told, he tells her like right up front.
00:51:49
Speaker
Um, and, they aren They both like they take ah about three minutes to think it over if it's a good idea for them to date, but then decide to pursue it. And there's a there's a cool line here where she says, ah do you want to do this because of who I am or because who do I
Character Development: Scott and Madeline
00:52:06
Speaker
look like? And again, proud of Scott Summers. He says, I don't know.
00:52:11
Speaker
But I but I want to find out. And I think again, i think that is cool. That he's being honest. And also, that's kind of fucking, that's an interesting way to think about what dating is.
00:52:25
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Right? On your first couple of dates, you're kind of like, it's kind of, that's the question. Do I like this person? or do i like Or do I like what they look like?
00:52:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. That's what you're digging to find out. Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know. I thought that was kind of cool. um Meanwhile, thousands of feet below Manhattan, dozens of Morlocks guard a restrained Kurt, Peter and Aurora while Callisto stands on stage preparing to marry an unconscious and bondaged Warren Worthington. It's so funny. He's had no lines of dialogue. He's just silent and limp and wearing S&M outfit.
00:53:08
Speaker
The team realizes that their restraints are just regular old ropes. They bust out easily and start kicking Morlock ass. Nightcrawler teleports Callisto several times to stun her and holds her hostage in exchange for safe passage to the surface with Warren. But in the commotion, Plague merely touches Storm, immediately rendering her too sick and feverish to stand. no Wait.
00:53:39
Speaker
Pat, didn't you say something like that in the intro? Yeah, i was I was making a cheeky reference to this moment. and Wow, wow, you're really smart. Pretty good.
00:53:51
Speaker
She threatens to hit Aroro again and kill her, offering Storm's life for Callisto's, and Kurt and Peter stand down. They're not killers.
00:54:03
Speaker
Meanwhile, in a haunting interlude, we find Mystique running for her life from hounds in the year 1783. What? They say it's 170 years before she was born.
00:54:16
Speaker
So, according to the narrator... Mystique was born in 1980 or 1953. 1953, I guess. Let's keep that. Let's let's keep that in mind, too.
00:54:30
Speaker
OK, Mystique was born in 1953. Let's all all remember that. Let's remember that for another 200 episodes. She trips and breaks her ankle, but a handsome man named Jason Weingard.
00:54:42
Speaker
What? Calls the hounds off before they tear her apart. The honor of killing Mystique belongs to his hunting companion, Jean Grey, who takes a knife and slits her throat, waking Mystique from the dream. Oh.
00:54:56
Speaker
She ponders about it over coffee with Destiny when they find that Rogue has taken all of her things and left. They have like a a little mansion for their evil mutants club. Well, there's an interesting thing here, too, because when Mystique gets up out of bed, her ankle is hurt as if what happened in the dream had some effect on her real body. Yeah, yeah.
00:55:23
Speaker
Oh, they also reference here how ah like they how Rogue was a Dazzler villain for a little while. That's something that we missed. And like that's something we're not going to cover in the podcast. We're not going to read all of Dazzler. Yeah, sorry, folks. But Rogue was a Dazzler villain for a little while. And kind of like a cruel one. like it would be surprising If you were reading Dazzler, it would be surprising to see Rogue do what she's about to do in this episode here.
00:55:51
Speaker
So now and Jason get to work. i so I'm just kidding. You don't have to read. tesler no i've No, I've read it. There's not enough. There's not enough context there that makes it worth it. um Back underground, Callisto is once again mocking the X-Men as she prepares to marry a still unconscious warrior when Caliban shows up with an unconscious kitty in his arms. Like, kitty pride, not just like a kitty. Yes.
00:56:18
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. He's but begging Callisto to save his love. ah at this sight, the X-Men again just burst out of their restraints. They were like, ah, we've got stronger restraints this time.
00:56:31
Speaker
You're facing a metal man. Yeah. they They like they just like instantly as if they knew the entire time. Like, yeah, out whenever this meant nothing to us, you guys.
00:56:45
Speaker
Kirk can teleport. I expect the ropes to do. ah So, the yeah, the X-Men burst out of their restraints and demanded that they be allowed to leave and take Kitty to a hospital. But Callisto says no, which, as Caliban explains, is the final word among the Morlocks.
00:57:03
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The only way to challenge it now is to oust her as the leader of the Morlocks through trial by combat. If that's what it takes to save Kitty, says Kurt, so be it.
Storm's Leadership and Duel
00:57:14
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But when Callisto explains that it will be a duel to the death, Storm pulls rank as leader and challenges her, ignoring Kurt and Peter's objections, given her feverish state.
00:57:25
Speaker
It's such a cool panel. Her just being like, I don't care that I'm sick. I'm going to do this. Just a close up on her face. Yeah. Red and yellow.
00:57:37
Speaker
Aurora and Callisto stand facing each other like a high noon duel. Ten feet apart, Callisto explains that Storm can't use her powers as she tosses a knife over to her, which is unfair because Callisto's powers are all like physical.
00:57:50
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. But Callisto gets to use her powers. Whatever. Storm catches the blade midair and in the time of a single panel flips into a combat position, stunning everyone.
00:58:02
Speaker
She's ready. She sure is. pretty Following. Yeah. Pretty incredible panel of Callisto's face after she like it's a very good panel of her doing like some fancy work with the switchblade. But then it goes to Callisto's face and she is.
00:58:18
Speaker
ah ah fuck discouraged yeah oh fuck uh fuck i didn't um i thought she was all lightning the following page shows the two beginning the duel and feeling each other out showing us that callisto may actually have the upper hand here storm's a little sloppy and hasn't been in a knife fight for a long time i man how many times have you been in this situation pat somebody challenges his knife fight
00:58:46
Speaker
I wish people would just stop challenging me to knife fights when they know I haven't done it in a long time. I had such a good record. But Callisto's confidence betrays her when Storm's able to wrap her knife arm up with her cape. The next page is completely wordless when across six panels we see Storm raise Callisto's wrapped arm up in the air, then plunge a knife into her heart and walk away as Callisto collapses.
00:59:15
Speaker
She silently walks up to the stage, takes Warren down off his cross, and invites any Morlock that wants to join them at Xavier's mansion. They don't want to leave their underground home, but hope that they can all be friends moving forward.
00:59:29
Speaker
Everyone agrees, but we learn that Callisto survived thanks to the group's healer. Pat, I can't wait you for you to meet this healer eventually, by the way. It sounds intriguing. And may not feel the same once she's conscious.
00:59:42
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On the way out, Aurora makes it clear to Kurt that she knew what had to be done and was willing to kill Callisto to get there. Her face is cold and angry in a way we haven't seen before.
00:59:54
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Yo. This, I think it's like five or six pages between the storm getting angry, the duel starting, the duel taking place, storm winning, and then taking... ah ah taking an Angel down off his, yeah ah out of his restraints. Right.
01:00:17
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Are, I, in my opinion, rocketing Paul Smith up the charts of great X-Men artists. Like, yeah, he's been really good. i i've thought, and I know with, we have some listeners that are huge fans and, and I can see why, but right this sequence is mind blowing. And the fact that Chris Claremont,
01:00:41
Speaker
shuts up and lets him speak with his pencil is really ah yeah the right choice uh it's just like mind-blowing good work conveying emotion conveying the rage and like the tension of the situation it's really really impressive stuff right so we cut back to alaska At dawn where Scott and Madeline definitely just had sex. Definitely.
01:01:08
Speaker
She tries to remove his sunglasses and he freaks out. He hits her. Actually. ah Before deciding to reveal his secret. He flips a quarter into the air and shoots a hole through it to reveal his mutant power to her. He's so solemn about it. He's like, I have a... yeah A secret that I just think I'm comfortable revealing to you.
01:01:39
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you She, much to his surprise, accepts him for who he is. And then they definitely have sex again. They definitely do it again. 100%. Man, so much sex in these issues. Yeah. Well, they're adults now, Matt.
01:01:57
Speaker
Yeah, everybody has sex when they're adults. You can't keep them as babies forever. Mm-mm.
01:02:04
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. um Storm is leader of the Morlocks now. The Morlocks and the X-Men. why is she What is she going to next? She's going to lead the Brotherhood?
01:02:17
Speaker
and then what's she going to do? Lead the FBI? she sure could use some leaders down in Washington. could...
01:02:29
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That's what I always say. And so start. So don't steal my line. Sorry. I saw you going for it. I had to get there first.
01:02:46
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Good. Really impressive stuff here. Yeah. Very good issue. Good. Issue. Good issue. Good issue. Should we move on to another good issue, Matt?
01:02:58
Speaker
I'd like to read another good issue. If you would like to tell me about it. I would. like I would like to tell you about Uncanny X-Men number 171. Okay, do it. Rogue. You won't.
01:03:12
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Coward. a Stan Lee presentation starring the Uncanny X-Men brought to you by Chris Claremont, scripter, Walt Simonson, guest penciler. Whoa, Walt Simonson. Oh, man. Love this guy. We're going to learn a lot more about him in the future. But for right now, let's just say.
01:03:29
Speaker
Good art. And future husband of Louise Jones. Mm hmm. God. Love in the air. Bob Wyachek finisher. Tom was a Kowski letterer. Glynis Ween colorist. Louise Jones editor. Jim Dupid.
01:03:46
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editor I'm really struggling. this Not your best work today, but look, it's OK. I've been sick. Really? Yeah.
01:03:59
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Release date, March 8th, 1983. Cover date, 1983. Storm, looking fierce as hell, commands the Morlocks. As their new leader, she demands they leave the surface dwellers alone and walks off stage.
01:04:14
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Callisto vows to win her leadership back and take Storm's life in the process, but Storm doesn't give one shit. Nightcrawler watches and worries that Storm has changed, maybe for the worse.
01:04:27
Speaker
Yeah. In Anchorage, Alaska, Maddie Pryor wakes up screaming. As Scott Summers runs in to comfort her, she tells him about her nightmare. It's an image of her past.
01:04:38
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A few years ago, she was in a terrible plane crash where everyone on board died except for her. Jesus Christ! Fiery deaths, too. It was the day that Jean Grey died.
01:04:54
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In Beverly, Massachusetts, Carol Danvers visits her parents. yeah Oh, okay. They note that she's different and she denies it, but inside she feels as if her life as Carol is over. She's still singing this damn song.
01:05:10
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is Yeah, but she does this more than Aurora reminds people that she ah was buried next to her dying parents or whatever. Which she's already done in this episode. We skipped over it.
01:05:23
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Since Rogue took Carol's powers and her memories, she's had most of her memories restored by Charles Xavier, but very few of the feelings associated with them. Now she wants to leave it all behind as binary.
01:05:37
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In the X-Mansion, Kitty tears apart her room looking for a set of floppy disks. She blames the new mutants, or X-babies as she keeps calling them, for taking them until her roommate Ileana Rasputin notices them under her keyboard. Kitty!
01:05:57
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Professor X continues to work at restoring the strength in his legs with his girlfriend, Lalandra. Xavier's new clone body still won't let him use his new legs without extreme pain, and Lalandra worries that it's more physical than psychological.
01:06:11
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Interesting. That is interesting. In the kitchen, Peter Rasputin ponders a cookbook trying to learn to cook quiche Lorraine until Xavier tells him there's someone at the door. He's an artist.
01:06:23
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The woman standing there causes him to shift instantly to Colossus form as Rogue collapses to the ground in front of him. So fucking cool, man. Oh, my God. Him answering the door is another just like unbelievable panel. Yeah. he looks so big and Rogue looks so small. and And we last see him as Peter.
01:06:45
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And then you turn the page and there he is. 10 feet tall and uh yeah yeah yeah and rogue just looks and rogue's like gripping she's like got her arms crossed across her chest and like is gripping her own shoulder like like like she wants to be anywhere but where she is she is so uncomfortable she's not here to fight she needs help yeah everyone gathers in the morning room to question rogue a morning room It looks like a morning room, right? Like, that's what I decided that was. It was like, it looked like a morning room. Didn't it look like a morning room? Where's this morning room been all this time?
01:07:25
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ah Everyone gathers in the morning room to question Rogue, who's shaking like a leaf. x Xavier can't read her mind because of the Carol Danvers situation, and that's why Rogue is here.
01:07:36
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She never meant to take so much from Carol, and now her mind can't take it. It's driving her crazy, and her powers are going out of control. She's losing track of her own own personality, and her adoptive mother Mystique won't take it seriously.
01:07:50
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The X-Men are, of course, mad suspicious of her. But Professor X tells them there's no reason to be and sends them out of the room while he conducts a closer examination. To work off some of their anxiety, the X-Men decide to go for a danger room sesh.
01:08:05
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Yeah. Now... there's Yeah, go ahead. eighteen I'm on the X-Men's side here. She's done nothing redeeming thus far, and... And the X-Men are just saying, like, hey, can you please hear us out about this? You haven't fought her. We have.
01:08:21
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And he's like... No. And like last time we saw her, she was still evil. And all she's saying now is, hey, the evil thing I did. there's There's been consequences to it.
01:08:35
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I don't like them. Yes, exactly. but And we know Xavier can't read her mind. He's upfront about it, so he doesn't know if she's got some sort of... it's They pull this so often, though. Like, oh, a new person is coming to join the X-Men, and they're kind of suspicious. And what? For some reason? x Xavier can't read their mind. They already did this with Ileana. Like, Ileana came back from limbo, and... wait, now I can't read your mind. Like, it it it becomes a bit of a crutch. But granted, with... All right.
01:09:09
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We all know. With Rogue, he's right. Yeah, yeah. Ultimately. There's no point in hiding that. Sorry to spoil it. We all... Everybody knows who Rogue grows up into. But it's still like... It it is a bizarre moment that...
01:09:27
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He is so adamant about this so fast. Also, I want to say, we kind of skipped over it last issue. There is a person who manipulated, that we don't know yet, who manipulated Rogue into coming.
01:09:49
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she's sitting on She's sitting on the bus, and the narrator is like they're the person who... planted this idea in her head is also behind her she can't hear him but he's laughing
01:10:06
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I did not catch that you're but ah you're right I'm not saying it didn't happen I just like it's very subtle I guess or so like something happened to Mystique that involved Jason Weingart something happened to Emma Frost where she had some sort of psychic attack occur yeah Something.
01:10:29
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oh I'm starting to put some pieces together. Spired rogue. To come to the X-Men. Well, in utter suspense at this point. Good.
01:10:41
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I like you there. ah Kitty. Kitty. In the booth with Ileana, asks what session she's setting up, and Ileana tells her it'll be a surprise. I love that Ileana's been running the Danger Room booth. She just knows it up and down. Yeah, yeah,
01:10:57
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At that moment, the Danger Room transforms into limbo with Belasco, Sim, and evil Nightcrawler gazing at the X-Men from their throne. Again, like the dead colossuses on the wall and dead Wolverine skeletons. are that Why would she do this, Pat?
01:11:12
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I don't know. She goes into a panic. And as Kitty shuts the sequence off, summons a sword from midair, lashing out at her. She just summons a sword. Not just a sword, Matt. Even though Kitty was phasing, the sword manages to gouge a cut into her cheek.
01:11:29
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So Kitty dives underneath Ileana and disarms her, the sword disappearing into thin air. What? Ileana comes to, crying and confused, traumatized by her memories of limbo. They all come rushing back to her.
01:11:42
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Does any of this make sense to you, Pat?
01:11:49
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No. Yeah! What is happening? This is, I tried to to think of some... connection even like Even knowing some of the details that come to be about... You know who Ileana will become. ah Right, but right right I do not understand how this is connecting or why she just went into this rage.
01:12:15
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Can't wait. Later, Storm is having a rough one, dealing with all the chaos lately, and finds herself losing control of her own weather powers when Xavier summons her to his study.
01:12:27
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Soon, the X-Men all gather and Xavier announces that Rogue will be admitted to the school and as a probationary member of the
Rogue's X-Men Admission and Tension
01:12:35
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X-Men. What? Storm begins to argue, but it's cut short as Carol Danvers, as binary, walks in and suddenly Rogue goes crashing through the roof. Oops. She just loves punching holes in places. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no worse time for Carol Danvers to walk in the door. There was worse.
01:12:57
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In the history of the X-Men, there has never been a worse time for Carol Danvers to be like, hey, guys, I just showed up to, i was thinking joining you like you guys asked me about all those months ago. What?
01:13:12
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And also, the last time she punched somebody through a wall in the presence of the X-Men, she sent all the X-Men tumbling out into space. Almost all of them died, yeah. Yeah. She still doesn't hesitate to do it again. wasn't that That was Paul Smith, too, wasn't it?
01:13:31
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Oh, you're right. That was a Paul Smith guest pencil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love it. Recovering from the massive punch she took, Rogue spins about in the upper atmosphere and dives back toward Earth where Binary is waiting. She clocks her again, sending her soaring into a tree. Colossus decides that it's enough and Bear hugs her, demanding she stop fighting.
01:13:54
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Rogue is under the X-Men's protection now. Jeez, Colossus just immediately going like, nope. right She's ours. She's our pal. At least she's family now.
01:14:05
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I mean, I guess they tell me. that I don't know. Carol is flummoxed. How could they possibly do this? And it seems Storm and Nightcrawler agree. If Rogue stays, they go.
01:14:19
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But Professor X does his x Xavier thing and begins a lecture. It was Aurora who stood by Wolverine when Warren wanted him gone. He had a potential for good and to deny him based on his past actions would be an insult to the X-Men's purpose.
01:14:32
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Does not the same apply to Rogue? No! Wolverine didn't attack the X-Men. Wait, hold on. Yes, he did. Like several times he tried to kill Kurt Wagner. Yeah, but as after he joined the team. But for fun.
01:14:54
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Kitty, Peter, and Kurt all relent, but Carol cannot forgive what's been done to her. With some harsh words, she rockets off into the sky. They turn to Storm, awaiting her decision, but she's undecided.
01:15:07
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Storm stands at a crossroads. Return to being Roro, kind and gentle and caring? Or fully accept this new person she's becoming, the cold, ruthless Storm?
01:15:25
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This is another good one. Not even that much like action to it. It's just drama. It's just dramatic and fun. Really cool to see Rogue, though. like Obviously, this is opening a gateway into...
01:15:44
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Rogue becoming a character that like we just know we're going to fall in love with. Right. Yeah. And it's it's it's just I don't know. I'm just so happy that she's here. Like it's. Yeah. I know this is such an inauspicious beginning, but man, don't you just feel good to have Rogue here?
01:16:04
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It is. It finally like it's a it's one of the many loose ends getting nodded off here. Right. Where you've been like, I know at some point, yeah please get to it.
01:16:17
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Also, is here's a note. We have noted since her first appearance that she looks like a 40 year old boss bitch, right? She is yeah She's wields a power suit and a short haircut and intimidates everybody. Yeah. But,
01:16:37
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That hasn't really changed here, yet they refer to her as a child through the entire thing. so yeah Yeah, she still looks like she's 40 years old, yeah. Now we know that she's young.
01:16:49
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But we do, and like we don't even know. like there's there's There's some like Marvel no-prize explanation, I think, for why her why she has the white streak in her hair. Yeah. But we don't know that theyre there's any reason for that. We just think she's like a woman old enough to have a white streak in her hair.
01:17:07
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Right. Why wouldn't we? if i yeah, I'm excited have her here. And yeah also, I do think Paul Smith does a good job of making her physicality make her look younger. even Sure, yeah, yeah. Even if her figure and her face and her hair and her costume don't look young.
01:17:31
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She's spry. And she's just like she's like she like he has her like constantly gripping her own shoulders and like shrinking in front of the adults that she's nearby. Like like she's like she's uncomfortable.
01:17:45
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Yeah, sure. All right, man. Do you want me to just kind of go ahead and I'm going to go a little crazy? Yeah, you know what? good just go Just go with it. I'm going to tell you about X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, actually. All Number 172. It's called a Scarlet in Glory.
01:18:11
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Chris Claremont, writer, Paul Smith, penciler, Bob Wyachek, inkster, Glynis Ween, colorist, Tom Morzakowski, letterer, Louise Jones, editor, and...
01:18:23
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Grimfluter, Editor-in-Chief.
01:18:27
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Release date, ah May 10th, 1980. He's playing taps. Release date, 10th, 1983. Cover date, August 1983. The X-Men have gone to Japan!
01:18:39
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hey it's time It's finally time for Wolverine's wedding, and the gang, including Lockheed the Dragon, imagine, sorry, is amped. But one of the X-Men is a little timid about coming in, probably because she wasn't invited.
01:18:55
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Rogue! Yeah, he's okay. There's a lot that's going to hinge on Rogue coming in everybody being like, hey, you shouldn't be here. Or Logan, his first reaction being, yeah, you shouldn't be here, please. This is my wedding. She wasn't invited this wedding. Why did they bring her? She shouldn't be here. Right. Exactly. Like, Professor X is like, I, uh, you should all know I have admitted her to the school and she's to be the newest X-Men and I also have invited her to somebody else's wedding.
01:19:34
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The X-Men just show up in Japan and they're like, hey, we brought a dragon and a villain. Yeah.
Surveillance and Conflict: X-Men and Silver Samurai
01:19:45
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Like, I brought my dog and your ex-girlfriend your weapon. I hope you don't mind. yeah Or even better yet, like, the I brought that girl who beat up your ex-girlfriend when like... it
01:20:01
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Oh, my God. Logan would normally cut her heart out, but Aurora explains that she's an X-Man now. it's so It's so funny. It's such a funny, like, Storm's response to this, and it was the same as a response to Carol Danvers, is like, you can read the sarcasm in it, where she's like, yeah yeah hey. Yeah, she's us. Hey, she's an X-Man now.
01:20:24
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Hey, ah guess what, Carol? That girl is an X-Man now. So you can't like man. So good. Mariko insists that as a guest, they treat Rogue with courtesy and respect. All of this is watched from a rooftop across the way by the Silver Samurai. Oh, no. Remember him from New Mutants? From New Mutants. If you're it exclusively an X-Men guy, you're not getting this.
01:20:50
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Yeah, you're like, who's this? Who's this friggin loser? ah He's ready to ambush the unsuspecting team, but he is being watched from another rooftop across the line by Yukio.
01:21:06
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Who is being watched from another room. This happened in the defenders. They've almost got the whole intersection covered. Sorry, not defenders. ah Champions. Remember when this happened in the champions where it was like great somebody was spying like ah somebody was spying on somebody who's spying on somebody. And I think there might have been another layer. I'm pretty sure stilt man was involved there.
01:21:28
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They caught a kid in their headquarters and they were like, what are you doing here? And the kid's like, yeah please save my brother. And we never saw them again.
01:21:38
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um man. Anyway. And they also had someone hiding in their apartment. Like an assassin hiding in their apartment. the same time. Someone spying on that assassin. Okay. It's coming it back.
01:21:49
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All right. Yukio. ah ends this horrible cycle by jumping in and kicking silver samurai in the back of his fucking head apparently forgetting that he's heavily armored wolverine fears the commotion but pat if you got kicked in the head while wearing a helmet you'd still be like that sucks not if i was like wearing a helmet that connected to the rest of the armor on my body he's got a steel frame around him Wolverine hears the commotion from his penthouse, though, and has Kurt teleport him to the rooftop with all the action. Logan jumps into the fight and Harada teleports out of there like a coward. Like a coward.
01:22:31
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Let's be clear. Harada is the name of Silver Samurai in case. Yes. that There's a lot of names that you've had to pick up. A lot of Japanese names you've had to pick up in the last few episodes. And we're mispronouncing most of them. Yeah. Yeah.
01:22:46
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ah Yukio slips off a rooftop. A different rooftop. Just a. Yeah, she's. and There's a lot Rooftop. You know, there's so many roofs in Japan. um Slips off a rooftop in her getaway, but is rescued from falling by Aurora.
01:23:02
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They have a brief chat, and by the time they part, Storm is intrigued by Yukio's carefree, adrenaline-seeking approach to life. This is such a consequential meeting for Aurora, even though it seems so small.
Poison and Chaos: Logan and Mariko
01:23:15
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Yeah, it's like three or four panels.
01:23:19
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Back at the penthouse, Logan explains that Harada is Mariko's half-brother and is likely here with his partner-in-crime, Mistress Viper. Remember her from I do. Yeah. Yeah. okay um Oh, sorry. I have to jump back just one second because the funniest fucking thing. There's the funniest fucking line of dialogue when Wolverine overhears the fight.
01:23:40
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He says, do you guys hear that? A fighting kick.
01:23:47
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Pat, it's a fighting kick.
01:23:58
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Back the penthouse, Logan explains that Harada is Mariko's half-brother and is likely here with a mistress Viper to kill Mariko and claim the Yoshida clan throne. Meanwhile, Mariko secretly leaves the estate after receiving a summons from Harada, demanding she come alone.
01:24:13
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She tells no one but her servant, Tony. Tony sees her out and is immediately punched in the face by Viper, who drags her unconscious body out into the kitchen. So long, toady by Tony. Bye, Tony. My favorite character.
01:24:29
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The X-Men are relaxing and drinking the tea served by the mysterious new servant, and Logan and Aurora both note that the other has changed. They start talking through Logan's recent transformation when he notices a funky aftertaste to the tea, and he knocks Aurora's still full cup out of her hand.
01:24:48
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Poison! Oh, no. On the street below. Mariko enters the car that's been called for her, but it's actually being driven by Yukio.
01:24:59
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Man. they it's They don't have enough faith in the reader that the reader will recognize that that's Yukio. So right. Claremont gives her a catchphrase, which made sense when she said it in context in the Wolverine miniseries. But now she just says it sometimes.
01:25:21
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She says, gotcha. Gotcha. gotcha Gotcha. I gotcha. Gotcha. I hate it. She shouldn't have a catchphrase. It sucks.
01:25:32
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And if she does, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. Gotcha. Gotcha. Anchorage International Airport, Alaska. Alex Summers catches his brother Scott rifling through a filing cabinet.
01:25:46
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The filing cabinet that says L through S or some shit. Trying to dig up a file on Madeline. Alex is worried. He's going mad. It's just a woman that looks like Jean. But Scott explains that she was the only survivor of a fiery plane crash at the exact moment of Jean's death.
Madeline Pryor's Identity and Storm's Struggles
01:26:06
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Time out. Oh, okay. They were in another galaxy oh when Jean died. Mm-hmm. How do they know the exact moment in Earth time that that happened?
01:26:23
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They're wearing a watch. They wear to watch. They do have those communicator watches. They wear to watch. they That was just still tracking Earth time at the time. Yeah, and Cyclops is Cyclops. So the moment his girlfriend died, he probably looked down at his watch and was like, okay. Clock the time. Okay.
01:26:42
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Back to Japan, where Mariko arrives at her meeting with Harada, Viper, and a neutral party to mediate. Nabutoni Yakuisei, the leader of the Yakuza.
01:26:54
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Ooh. Mariko opens by aggressively explaining... This doesn't sound like Mariko. Aggressively explaining that she will never give up her title as the head of the Yoshida clan, angering Harada the point of drawing his sword.
01:27:08
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Mariko tosses aside her robe and wig and reveals that she's actually Yukio in disguise. Whoa. With a few knife tosses, the battle begins between Yukio and Silver Samurai as Viper runs outside to see if Mariko is still in the car. There's suddenly a mysterious fog outside, though, and as Viper opens the car door...
01:27:28
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A strong gust of wind bursts out of the car and knocks Viper unconscious. Hell yes. Storm emerges, noting that her gust of wind was actually much stronger than intended. And Viper is lucky to still be alive.
01:27:43
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She sees Yukio in combat with Silver Sam sends a lightning bolt at him, setting off chaos as the Yakuza leader explains that this is all part of the plan.
01:27:55
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Storm's lightning is out control, and she pulls her lightning bolts back into herself to fully avoid electrocuting him to death. Stray lightning bolts start flying around the room as Aurora screams in agony. A few stray bolts hit a crate of, quote, tons of explosives nearby. They keep doing this. This keeps happening to Silver Samurai. Silver Samurai, stop going near...
01:28:21
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Warehouses full of explosives. As Yukio notices that Storm's caught in a psychic circuit with her lightning bolts and dives towards her with a blanket to interrupt it.
01:28:40
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Okay. Yeah. You remember how like Wolverine's claws interrupted psychic before? Yes. Also, also a blanket can do it psychic electricity. Yeah. And a blanket can do that, too. There's maybe it's there's adamantium in the blanket.
01:28:58
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yeah um As they fly out the window into the river below the building explodes. They watch the rest of the explosion from the banks of the river as a giant bird shaped flame shoots up into the sky.
01:29:14
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They both see it, too. Like, Storm is like, yeah they ah fuck, it i i might I might be hallucinating because ah of trauma from Phoenix. And then Yukio's like, yo, did you see that bird?
01:29:24
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it Yukio and Aurora talk about their unique approaches to danger, and Storm mentions that she envies Yukio's ability to enjoy the chaos. As they leave the scene, the Yakuza leader appears to be there, too, watching unnoticed from the shadows.
01:29:41
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What? But back at the exploded building, Silver Samurai lives and vows revenge on ah ah everyone.
01:29:53
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Generally, everybody. Just, i yeah, i I want revenge on you all in all of it. All right. Add these three to the list.
01:30:03
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Cut to the hospital where the rest of the X-Men are in intensive care from the poisoning, but they should live.
01:30:12
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the Logan's abilities have already healed him, and he's immediately ready to seek out and kill the Viper and Silver Samurai. Mariko insists he needs help, but only one other X-Man is healthy enough to join him.
01:30:24
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The one that he trusts the least. Rogu. ro Rogue, rogue, rogue, rogue, rogue. Oh. Sorry. The lady, not the sauce.
01:30:42
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probably the weaker of the, of these issues so far, the weakest of the four, but still pretty fucking good, man. Yeah. Yeah. This was fun. A little hard to follow some of the action where, especially when like the warehouse is exploding and figuring out what's happening to storm as her lightning bolts start absorbing back into her and creating a psychic circuit.
01:31:11
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I think, yeah, I mean, if you're just like following Paul Smith's art, it's just like Storm lost control of her powers. It's when you start trying to read clare Claremont's writing that it's like, what the fuck is happening?
Wedding Chaos and Emotional Turmoil
01:31:25
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her What? No, it's just her powers went out of control. We can fucking leave it there, you guys.
01:31:32
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But still very exciting, and I love the continuation of this Yukio-Ororo team-up and just having them... work together as like a little unit to help save mariko yeah yeah yeah that's cool one line that i absolutely loved from the beginning of this issue when rogue comes in logan is like i ought to cut your fucking heart out and mariko is like logan this is a guest and you can kind of see that sort of like sense of acceptance in his face that we've seen before and he says right
01:32:09
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figures any outfit that'll take me as a member will admit anyone like just this is his like all right i can't do anything about it yeah yeah yeah throwing up his hands and being like brush away yeah okay all right yeah i guess if they let me in they're gonna let some villains
01:32:32
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ah wow wow is wow patrick is that it today matt oh Are you frigging kidding me? Thank God, because I really wanted to read Uncanny X-Men number 173 to have and have not.
01:32:52
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Chris Claremont, writer, Paul Smith, penciler, Bob Wyacek, inker, Tom Orzakowski, letterer, Glynis Ween, colorist, Louise Jones, editor, and Dim Cooter, editor-in-chief. Release date, June 1983, cover date, September
01:33:09
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Tokyo, Japan. Two men fly sideways through a window out onto the street. Inside, Wolverine demands info from some suit named Akio while holding him by the throat while Rogue leans casually against the bar and plays good cop.
01:33:25
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It's cool. Already. Already. I'm like, I love these two. Straight away. What a team up. A sigh comes from behind Rogue, but only bends when it tries to stab her, and the body attached to that weapon goes flying as well.
01:33:39
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Akio talks, and Logan and Rogue get ready to confront Nabutone, the head of the Yakuza. Meanwhile, a ruffled Yukio and Storm sporting half-burnt hair from the explosion look for help, only to find that the Yakuza has put a death mark on both of them.
01:33:56
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No one will offer them shelter or sanctuary. As a gang of street toughs approach them, Aurora again notes that Yukio's willingness to jump into a fight is admirable, if crazy as hell.
01:34:07
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After taking the gang of dorks down, she even notes that Yukio's madness seems to be infecting her, and she likes it. She says this crazy thing. Did you pick up on it?
01:34:19
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with She says, yeah I have never used my powers to intentionally inflict pain. Oh, yeah. i think What the fuck? I think she means like I haven't used my powers to be overtly cruel to somebody like I did to these men attacking us. Okay, because she definitely caused... Because she has hurt people before....inflicted many, many pain on many, many, many, many people. Pretty much every issue. Pretty much every issue the X-Men we've ever read. Many units of pain.
01:34:53
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Logan and Rogue easily breach the outer defenses of Nabutoni's estate, but when Rogue sloppily sets off an electric eye inside, Wolverine saves her from a powerful energy blast.
01:35:05
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In a weird moment... Rogue tries to thank Wolverine with a kiss, apparently forgetting that it could cripple him. Logan understandably freaks out, but Rogue swears up and down she didn't mean any harm.
01:35:18
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Okay, I think she's making a joke here because he even he because he says, don't even joke about that. Right? Like, I think she's like, i think it it is very weird.
01:35:32
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And Chris Claremont attempting to write humor. Yeah, he can't do it. Yeah. I mean, it is very weird. It's like she leans in like she's going to kiss him. Like, what how would that joke conclude?
01:35:44
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You know what i mean? Yeah, yeah. It's you are right to call it weird. It's very weird. And also, this is not the appropriate time to joke about that.
01:35:55
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would you Hey, that's what Wolverine says. Well, they continue into Nabatoni's office where his corpse sits at a table, the smell indicating that he's been dead at least a week. But how could this be possible if he met with Mariko last night?
01:36:14
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No time for that now as they realize this must be a trap. The hospital has been left unguarded. A barrage of ninja stars tears through the halls of the hospital, taking out Mariko's Secret Service-style guards. Viper walks in with an army of ninjas, but before they can kill the X-Men in their hospital beds, Rogue flies in and starts taking on the army.
Wolverine's Duel and Rogue's Redemption
01:36:36
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Behind her comes Wolverine, calling out Harada, and the two phase off. The next three pages are wordless once again as we watch Logan and Silver Samurai duel energy sword on adamantium.
01:36:50
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Yeah, it's kind of like a um mirror of the battle in the miniseries. It's like, I mean, this whole thing has Paul Smith taking so much inspiration from Frank Miller's art.
01:37:03
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Oh, sure. And this is him giving tribute to that miniseries. Yeah, and not being lazy about it. No, not at all. Okay, so about this sequence, I have a couple notes. First of all, Shuriken pinning guys to walls.
01:37:22
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Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. it' At this point, we just have to imagine that they have special ones. They have special special ones. But it's it's very funny that Rogue, like, tackles these ninjas out of the thing, and as, like, vipers gathering herself, just in the background, Rogue is just zipping back and forth and knocking dudes out. Yeah, she's...
01:37:46
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it's like ah It's a very comedy forward scene, right? Yeah, yeah. She's just like, zoom, and people are just getting knocked over. It feels like it would be in one of these Deadpool movies. You seen one of these things? One these Deadpool movies? ryan's style A young Ryan Stiles would have made a good Deadpool movie.
01:38:08
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yeah Here's how the fight goes. They slash it Don't get me started on the Drew Carey show cast and in their prime, how they would have lined up as X-Men. Okay.
01:38:19
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Let's get serious, Matt, because here's how the fight goes. They slash at each other. Wolverine damages the faceplate of Harada's armor. Harada brings Logan in close and stabs his sword clean through his chest, taking Logan to his knees.
01:38:35
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Harada attempts to cut Wolverine's head off, but coming at the back of his neck meets only adamantium. Wolverine grabs Harada's wrist before he can pull his sword back, snaps his elbow backwards, and knocks his whole helmet off. He draws his claws back for the killing blow, but Mariko stops him.
01:38:54
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She wants an end to all the bloodshed. Wolverine objects, but actually but before they can argue about it, Viper shows up with a gun as she fires a blast of energy at Mariko.
01:39:09
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Rogue rushes in and outruns the blast, shoving Logan and Mariko out of the way and taking the full brunt She has a really good line here as Vapor tells her that she's foolishly sacrificing herself. She says, jokes on you, lady. They couldn't care less whether I live or die. It's so true, too. it's but This is like, i think this is the issue where you fall in love with Rogue, right?
01:39:36
Speaker
Where she's like, not it' like she's not only is she kind of funny and she's heroic and she's cool, she's also self-aware. Yes. Yeah. She, ah she knows how everybody feels about her and is trying to navigate that. She's really like, this is also the first time we see her kind of in her element. Like she feels, she seems very comfortable right now.
01:39:59
Speaker
Right, right, right. She's like, I love beating up people. i she's able to stand the blast long enough for Vipers gun to overheat and explode in her hand, but finally collapses from the strain when it's all over.
01:40:15
Speaker
She's dying, but as Viper and Harada retreat, Logan knows how to save her. He gives her a gentle kiss and lets her absorb his healing powers, hoping there will be enough to left to heal him too.
01:40:30
Speaker
I'm so glad they got rid of this rogue gets her powers by kissing thing. Yeah, well, she doesn't have any other exposed skin at the time. it really is because, but I think this is a touching moment. and Right.
01:40:45
Speaker
She knows that the kiss is coming. It's not like she's fully unconscious when it happens. which Sure. But what I'm saying is we have only seen her steal powers by kissing up till now. Yeah.
01:40:57
Speaker
Yes. And yeah, it's I'm so glad that will not be the case forever. Agreed. But in this moment, both of them are covered With the exception of at sight their lips. All right. No, I understand. Pat, I understand. It's okay this time. but little All right. Let me have this. Let me have this.
01:41:23
Speaker
A week later, back on the Ishida estate, Mariko prepares herself on the eve of her wedding day when a mysterious figure appears in a tailcoat. A tailcoat. Pat, what does that mean?
01:41:35
Speaker
A coat with tails on it. Yeah, but what is a ah person appearing in ah overly fancy garb? oh every time. Hellfire Club. Yeah.
01:41:47
Speaker
A figure appears in a tailcoat and ominously wishes her and her consort well. She shakes her head and questions why she's talking to herself. What the fuck?
01:41:59
Speaker
Hmm. The next morning, more guests arrive for the
Mariko's Decision and Wedding Cancellation
01:42:03
Speaker
wedding. The Summerses, plus Lorna Dane and Scott's date, Madeline Pryor. God. pon it's so Upon seeing her, Lalandra instinctively draws her sword and moves to strike Madeline down, but comes to her senses once x Xavier and Colossus restrain her. She almost ruins this wedding. ah i just Chopping the head off of Scott's date.
01:42:30
Speaker
And this is just step one of what Madeline is about to have to deal with. I think you don't have it here in your recap, but pretty soon Kitty Pryde hands her like a bundle and it's like, hey, can you watch this for the wedding?
01:42:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And she's like, oh, I'll watch your little kitty cat and opens it. and It's fucking Lockheed. It's a dragon. and such ah It's a very fucking funny little scene where she closes it and she's like, um, Scott. And he's like, oh, yes, honey. And she's like, what the hell have you gotten me into? Yeah.
01:43:04
Speaker
Who the fuck are these people? Like, this is a woman who just like appears. at a wedding. She's like, oh i'm I'm going to a wedding. And a bird lady tries to kill her, and then a little girl hands her a dragon. like And everybody keeps staring at her. A couple days ago, she was just a pilot.
01:43:28
Speaker
Just as that commotion settles, though, Storm descends from the sky, clad in black leather. Pants, blouse, gloves, sleeveless vest, and spiked choker.
01:43:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And she's got a mohawk. It rolls. Punk storm. Yes, punk storm. Enter punk storm. Cool punk storm. Sharp as hell. And still, like, she's got the, i think, the figure and the natural charisma to pull it off as something you can wear to a wedding.
01:43:56
Speaker
Yeah, and she's got the double belt, which I tried to pull off in my punk rock youth. I did one bondage belt and one studded belt. Studded belt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. because Because Storm can do it and Han Solo can do it.
01:44:17
Speaker
Why can't Matt do it? Same with the vest. Han Solo can do it. Storm can do it. Why couldn't I wear a vest as a punk rock kid? So I did. How'd it go? I don't know you You knew me back then.
01:44:30
Speaker
You were pretty punk rock, honestly, in high school. Yeah, thank you. ah Everyone is more shocked by Aurora's new look than they were by Lalandra trying to kill Madeline.
01:44:43
Speaker
But no one is as shocked as Aurora when she sees Scott's date. Fucking Kitty runs away crying. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. This is not traumatizing to see your friend come in in a new outfit with a haircut.
01:45:01
Speaker
Shut up. God. She's reacting like a toddler when it's dad shaves his beard. Right. Yeah. it It is not what a kid like this is. This is the moment I hate Kitty Pryde the most. And I almost never hate. I love Kitty Pryde. But this moment is like.
01:45:20
Speaker
did Not when she said the N word.
01:45:29
Speaker
Fuck, Pat. Fuck you. but God, you just canceled me. You just canceled me in front of the whole internet. Sorry, and we still got to do this podcast together, so it's it's coming for me as well.
01:45:42
Speaker
All right. Okay, well, maybe I can claw it back. The second big most I hated Kitty it was the other time she said the end. The third most I hated Kitty was ah this moment, because it's not even...
01:45:58
Speaker
This isn't even how kids act. you know like This isn't even how a 14 or 15 year old or however old she is. is Yeah, yeah. like This is baby behavior. Yes, exactly. Ex-baby behavior. Ex-baby. Yeah, maybe she should be part of the ex-babies.
01:46:15
Speaker
It's time for the wedding to start. Everyone sits in anticipation as Mariko enters dressed beautifully and announces that there will be no wedding today.
01:46:28
Speaker
The only reason she gives to Logan is that he's simply not worthy. What the fuck? The final page takes us out once again, without a word. Marco walks out of the room and is joined by a man that we don't see in full, but we can easily recognize the tails of his coat, the cigarette smoke surrounding him and the sideburns and mustache of a colonial era, Southern dandy.
01:46:53
Speaker
The X-Men awkwardly shuffle out a separate exit in the final panel. As we see Logan shed a single tear. The end. God damn it.
01:47:06
Speaker
What the fuck, man? What the fuck? That is, that was heartbreaking. I was, I really going into this last page was like, okay, you i how are they going to deal with Wolverine having a wife moving forward? It seemed like it was the done deal. And then,
01:47:26
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Unbelievable.
Speculations on Madeline Pryor and Mastermind
01:47:28
Speaker
I mean... This guy... I mean, can we just say it? Well, like it's not a spoiler at this point because we've seen. Yeah, yeah. This is the facial hair, the cigarette. This is Jason, Jason Wingard, Jason Wingard, a.k.a. Mastermind. And we've seen him fucking.
01:47:45
Speaker
OK, so of course he attacked Emma Frost. He's mad at Emma Frost. Yeah. Why did he attack Mystique and get Rogue to join the X-Men? We don't know what the hell that's about yet. No idea.
01:47:59
Speaker
And why is he and he's just he's breaking this wedding up just because he's mad at the X-Men.
01:48:05
Speaker
It's really Phoenix that could be and yeah, go ahead. Phoenix is also back. It seems we're getting ah we're getting Dark Phoenix, too, is my prediction.
01:48:19
Speaker
Oh, if Madeline Pryor is returning with Phoenix all up in her. We see Madeline Pryor. We see the Phoenix explosion. We see Jean Grey killing Mystique in her more than a dream.
01:48:35
Speaker
I want to. Jean Grey's coming back as the Dark Phoenix and they're just they're doing it again. I want to propose something to you, though. oh Mastermind can create illusions.
01:48:47
Speaker
Yeah, I know. So it's too easy. So too predictable. The question is, there's these Phoenix like manifestations happening all over the place. And also there's something else impossible, which is Madeline Pryor herself seems impossible.
01:49:08
Speaker
Yeah. The moment that Jean Grey died. The Earth moment. Yeah. ah um Which we knew because Cyclops synchronized his watch that day.
01:49:23
Speaker
That's right. So what do you think about... Okay, I got so many questions for you, man. Okay. Fire away. What the fuck is Madeline Pryor? Who do you think Madeline Pryor is?
01:49:41
Speaker
She's Dark Phoenix, too. I think I think. No, I truly have no idea. Like she is there's not a clue in my head except that maybe it is Jean Grey somehow saved from the fate of the Dark Phoenix.
01:50:03
Speaker
How? OK, what do you know about how? What did you know about Madeline Pryor before any of this? Like nothing. i There was a character named just that there was a character named Maddie Pryor.
01:50:15
Speaker
Yeah. And that she looks exactly like Jean Grey. OK. OK. What is mastermind planning here is my other question. My next question for you. Dark Phoenix, too.
01:50:26
Speaker
He's trying to. So he senses that Jean Grey is still alive and that Jean Grey is pretending to be a woman named Madeline Pryor. And he's going to use her to get the Phoenix force in under control again.
01:50:40
Speaker
I know was, it seems like you're trying to pick apart my theory that this is leading us into Dark Phoenix 2. I'm not trying to pick it apart. i want to know ah I mean, I'm trying to pick it apart in that I want to know the details.
01:50:54
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. i i I don't have those details because it feels like what they're doing is really railroading us into a Dark Phoenix 2 storyline. Okay.
01:51:07
Speaker
Why do this with Rogue and Mystique and Wolverine though? ah To have a new deal. i'm being I'm being very cynical about this, but to have just a new cast of characters. Okay, so so you're blaming this moron to tell a different story. You're saying this is more a Chris Claremont architecture design rather than a rather than a Jason Wingard design.
01:51:33
Speaker
you yes this isn't masterminded by mastermind this is masterminded by chris claremont who's like ah let's do it again at the direction of editorial because they were oh dark phoenix was popular let's do it again right here's what i'll say with everything here's what i will say um i'm not going to give you any hints but you will have your answers in the next episode of this podcast. Whoa. what did you I got to start reading.
01:52:02
Speaker
What did you feel? How did you feel about this? This little arc? I... I loved it. I don't think we talked enough about Paul Smith's art, but there is just, we're hitting another like elite level here. I think he took a little time to warm up to the characters and by this run here, fully understood them.
01:52:29
Speaker
That combined with we talk a lot about how Chris Claremont's writing doesn't necessarily need a good villain, but we have some good
Art Appreciation: Paul Smith's Contribution
01:52:39
Speaker
villains here. I think Silver Sam is intriguing enough and I think well-defined enough as a person to just be a fun villain to face off with, or at least him and Serpent together. Okay. Yeah.
01:52:54
Speaker
i And i obviously the the setting of the wedding, what I'm saying is like we have interesting context and we have interesting characters in addition to the usual Claremont era deep characterization of our beloveds.
01:53:13
Speaker
There's so Paul Smith is so good at these like intimate character moments and these like real like these tight shots on people's sort of feelings or these this group shots that feel like ah like they're all legitimately in a room with each other and all discussing something emotional. Like he's really good at that. But like he's showing through this little arc that he's also fucking kicks ass at action.
01:53:35
Speaker
Yes. And weird stuff, too. He designs every Morlock and they are. yeah Awful. Yeah. And yeah, okay we're going have to talk about themes in a second. But yeah, like the um but a punk storms design, right? Is Paul Smith.
01:53:50
Speaker
He has yeah yeah fucking chops, man. Like design chops. He took a swing. I. OK, so there's some bigger themes here, right?
01:54:02
Speaker
One of which being the Morlocks themselves, which is a talking like they're a conversation about passing, right? yeah The idea that you can be part of like this hated minority or a discriminated against minority and some people like Cyclops or Storm, they pass.
01:54:18
Speaker
They walk around and people aren't going to be like, hey, you're one of those people that I hate. um right And Morlocks are very they're they're they they're ugly mutants and they're like, we can't be like you.
01:54:34
Speaker
That's why they refuse to come to Xavier's, right? And on top of that, they have one other example.
01:54:43
Speaker
Nightcrawler who doesn't pass, who refuses to join them. Yes, they offer him membership. They're like, hey. hey you're all fucked up you is You embody every reason that we're down here. And he has he has a good ah speech about representation in return. But yeah, he's not he's not going to join them and he's not going to hide is his his whole thing.
01:55:09
Speaker
I think we'll have a chance to talk about this later because we'll see a lot more Morlocks. But I think there's an interesting that's an interesting little theme. There's another interesting theme here about trauma. um I think Madeline Pryor altogether right is a way for Chris Claremont to discuss Cyclops' trauma. right He's traumatized by the loss of Jean. And now, not only is he did he fall in love with Madeline Pryor possibly just because she looked like Jean Grey,
01:55:39
Speaker
he also is like, and I think that might be her and she might be real and she might be alive, right? Like, yes. it's It's Claremont just finding this real sci-fi way of digging into the idea of trauma.
01:55:57
Speaker
And what does it mean for Wolverine now that he's gone through this entire growth arc and it's just been shattered?
01:56:08
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's not going to come out of that a healthy man. Yeah.
01:56:16
Speaker
Can you, here's my final thought. Can you imagine the chatter at that wedding about Scott? They haven't seen him in months. He comes back with a woman that looks identical to Jean.
01:56:32
Speaker
Everyone must have been like, boy, Scott sure has a type, huh? yeah
01:56:39
Speaker
Did you have you ever dated two people that had a similar look about them and felt a little bit that way?
01:56:46
Speaker
are like I mean, you had an ex-girlfriend and then you go date somebody else and like, oh, this looks a lot like my ex-girlfriend. and they're like, are people going to are people going to say something?
01:56:59
Speaker
I mean, how could they not? She's identical. She is Jean Grey. In this case, it's a wild scenario. But like, I don't know. I've definitely been through that where I've like been on a date with somebody and been like,
01:57:14
Speaker
this looks a lot like one of my exes and like, I'm still attracted to this person and I can see the differences. But if I go to a party with this woman, people are going to be like, oh so Matt's just dating her again. Yes. Yes. But Madeline has only seen one picture of Jean. And do you see one picture of anybody, even if it's ah maybe a picture of you and you don't know it, you're going to be like, Oh sure. Maybe we have yeah some resemblance, but She notes that everybody at the wedding has been staring at her and kind of agape because she had no idea that she was an identical twin of Jean Grey.
01:57:53
Speaker
People have to be like, that's, is he okay? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah Okay, now I know we have to get to Pat's deals and deals, but I do. there's a little song there's no There's a little bit of context I want to give about Angel just because we've been following him and we haven't have him been following him into into and out of everywhere.
01:58:12
Speaker
Sure. Warren Commission. Warren Commission. um At this time, Angel has been in. He's been a supporting character in Dazzler. oh okay.
01:58:23
Speaker
he was like a love Even though he's dating Candy Southern, clearly, he was a love interest of Dazzler's. And she's she's been trying to find her real mom, and Angel has been like...
01:58:36
Speaker
trying to help her out with that like hey i have some uh investigation experience i could help you out here oh my god um and using this as a example as like a uh reason to romance her and just as he has candy southern and it's never addressed in dazzler that he's dating candy southern she's also like dating some other guy at this time and she's torn between her that guy and angel um he i'm sure he and candy have an agreement um Dazzler actually at this point, I think maybe I think her ending with Warren is when she moves out to L.A.
01:59:08
Speaker
And like they reset her whole story. And i think that's right about this time in her book, if I'm if I'm remembering correctly. So he has just left Dazzler.
01:59:20
Speaker
Went crying back to Candy Southern. Went crying back to Candy Southern off panel, off mic, then immediately gets kidnapped by the Morlocks.
01:59:33
Speaker
freed we don't see what happens to him like we don't see the end of it's like we don't his wings clipped yeah we don't see him after this he's just gone it then i think this is about when he joins the defenders this is i think when he ice man and beast join the defenders oh okay this year like uh five months from now but this year so that's just some war and commission Good for him.
02:00:06
Speaker
I guess we'll see. guess we'll see he ever pops up again. We're not going to follow him to the defenders. We already fell for that once!
02:00:15
Speaker
We're not going to do it again!
02:00:21
Speaker
got an eye out that you could buy out you had time machine that you would like to try out It can't steal, steal
02:00:34
Speaker
Ooh, folks, Pat Steals and Deals, we got a good one for you today. Matt. Pat. Live chameleon. Free.
02:00:45
Speaker
No. With order for a six-month supply of chameleon food, which is 200 live Oh!
02:00:55
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02:01:16
Speaker
You also have the option, it says, to order a mated pair of chameleons with a TV terrarium with a cover. This includes free food for only $9.95 plus $1.50 for postage handling. Okay, hold on. All right, so, okay.
02:01:33
Speaker
So you buy 200 live meal worms yeah for $3 and they'll send you a free chameleon. But if you want a mated pair...
02:01:47
Speaker
you send 10 bucks. Plus a buck 50 for postage and handling. And they'll send you back to chameleons and the 200 live mealworms.
02:02:01
Speaker
It just says free food, so I don't know if it's 200 live mealworms, but some worms. Yeah, some worms. And then also a terrarium to keep them. Why are they doing this, Pat? I mean, it sounds pretty rad.
02:02:16
Speaker
What if I had a lizard that just crawled all over me and changed colors? Why are they doing this? I don't know, man. Like, were are they making money from this? Like, how much? do ah Where did they get all these? What? What?
02:02:31
Speaker
I, I don't. Was it you? Hang on. Oh, I found a Reddit thread where a guy bought one and it died like a week later. Oh, no. ah Yeah, so some, it looks like chameleons can mate pretty frequently. I don't know what type of chameleon this was, but it seems somebody maybe just free one had to had a bunch around their place mating and started selling them off. Maybe this is something that you do. Maybe like you find a crate of some good and then you're like, all right, i just take out comic book ads until this is all gone.
02:03:15
Speaker
ah We are, of course, still in 1983, which means that $3 today would come out to about $9.75. So still under $10 in today's money, you're getting one free chameleon 200 live mealworms.
02:03:40
Speaker
and So how much does the mated pair cost?
02:03:46
Speaker
$10. So it would be ah just over $30. It seems maybe 35 with postage and handling. Okay. Adopting a chameleon today costs about 50 bucks.
02:04:00
Speaker
Ooh, and does that come with 200 free mealworms? No, unless you get one specially bred, and then it's like 300 bucks. Yeah, sure. there's some There are lizard people out there, you know?
02:04:12
Speaker
I don't want to offend anybody with what I was about to say. yeah All right, man. Well, would you buy this one? I think I would, and I would be pretty disappointed with it.
02:04:27
Speaker
Got an eye out. Stuff that you could buy out.
02:04:39
Speaker
like to try out. can feel. Feel. All right, Pat. Matt. Well, this has been a fun evening with you. This has. And you know what? We're wrapping up earlier than we usually do. i know. We're leaving ourselves a little time for for sleep yeah in this new year.
02:04:55
Speaker
That's what we're going in this new year, valuing our rest. That's right. We're about to go do it. But before we do, we'd love to sleep with you all.
02:05:07
Speaker
be breathing Matt, slow down. Okay, sorry. But before we are able to rest. Okay. We do have to see you guys ah liking, commenting, rating, telling your friends. Sharing on social media.
02:05:27
Speaker
Matt tries to sleep at night and he can't until he sees that you, if you're here, are in my bed Matt. Sorry. I'm doing a bit here and you keep making it sexual. Okay. Okay. Okay. i want hear Anyway, do any of those things, do all of those things. We really appreciate it. um And it's, please let Matt get some rest.
02:05:49
Speaker
I need to sleep. I haven't i haven't slept. i haven't slept since we started this podcast. ah You can follow us on Instagram for occasional updates, plus every episode announcement with some unique custom art. You can join our Discord.
02:06:05
Speaker
We'll put some links in the comments. Mm-hmm. Oh, you can email Pat's email corner by how could I forget that? Send an email to mutant menace pod at gmail.com.
02:06:19
Speaker
And we just want to give a quick thank you to Krils Wilson for the music to this episode and Julia Setley for the voice of Trish Tilby. Is there anything else we need to tell these people, Pat?
02:06:32
Speaker
Well, Matt, just what we say every week at the end of the episode that's That's right, Pat. ah As we say every episode, only man sense are residual.
02:06:46
Speaker
That's right, Matt. And remember. poo