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Episode 58 - Thank you Ruud, Hello Ruu-ben
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On today’s episode, Kieran and Ollie look back at the Leicester game, say good by to Ruud, and hello to Ruben Amorim!
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Transcript
Introduction and Managerial Changes
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Daily Manchester United Podcast. It's me, Kieran McGinley, and I'm delighted to say I'm joined by Ollie Pitt, and Ollie, welcome along.
00:00:18
OllieP
ah Good to see you again, buddy. Been a long time.
00:00:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Been too long, far too long, yes.
00:00:22
OllieP
Very long.
00:00:22
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Well, we're here we're here after the Leicester game. It was Roode's goodbye, a chorus of Roodes shattered around Old Trafford in his final game in charge. Four games, three wins, a draw.
00:00:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
He has left as of, what was it? about an hour ago as we're recording this. um And today is Reuben Amorim's first day in charge as we record this. So
Impact of New Management
00:00:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
all big news, all big days. ah But as we were saying before, Ollie, you were saying to me, kind of expected that Reuben would leave the club. I'm sad he didn't stay on, but perhaps there's bigger fish to fry for him.
00:00:56
OllieP
Yeah, it's kind of expected after the goodbyes yesterday. I was hoping he'd have some sort of role to play with Amorim, but obviously he's bringing in his own team. And like a lot of managers, they just want to work with the people they trust the most, I guess. And it's and the thing is, he's he's going to want to hit the ground running straight away, isn't he? I'm i'm guessing building relationships behind the scenes. He's not got time. he's He's going to be under the cost straight away. He's going into the biggest job in the world.
00:01:21
OllieP
So it's it's it's a lot for him. So he probably wants to work with people you trust, get in there, get some results and get a bit of trust behind him, which is fair enough. I'd
Game Analysis and Player Performances
00:01:29
OllieP
be the same.
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely.
00:01:30
OllieP
Yeah.
00:01:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll talk more about that later on. We'll talk about the game itself. We haven't had a chance to properly, you know, unpack everything we saw because from the looks of it, you know, you kind of got a bit scared when Wolfram Didi's heading down on goal and somehow Anana pulls out a save.
00:01:44
OllieP
Yeah.
00:01:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're thinking, this good here we go again.
00:01:49
OllieP
yeah
00:01:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But if anything, that seemed to just spur on the team. And I think for For a team like United who have been, I don't think they've been bad defensively. They've had a couple of stinking results.
00:02:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know We always mentioned the Liverpool and Tottenham results, three goals there. But I think it's 12 goals conceded in the Premier League, which is on par with some of the some of the title challenges so far, you know may maybe be slightly over expected.
00:02:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just in front of goal where we've struggled. And let's face it, two goals from outside the box and an own goal. i mean
00:02:19
OllieP
Hmm.
00:02:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know they've they changed the own goal definition over the last World Cup or the last. Yeah, it was the last euro, sorry, the last euros.
00:02:28
OllieP
Yeah.
00:02:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
They changed the definition of the own goal, which I don't know, takes the fun out of it all. But I just think, yeah, I think Fernandez robbed of a second goal, maybe. I don't know.
00:02:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
But still, we had a great first goal. So did Garnaccio. I thought the team played well. I think we coped with Leicester. I think Leicester will feel a bit hard done by that. They didn't get a goal in this game.
00:02:49
OllieP
Yeah, yeah, I think you guys just had a really good game. yeah i've One of his best games I've seen. you know Maybe he's just getting used to playing last obviously. ah ah consecut why not Consecutive games, we've played them quite ah close proximity to each other.
00:03:00
OllieP
us So maybe he's getting used to all the players. He's getting up to this up to speed with the Premier League now. ah Like I said before, there was question marks over his head, but he looks like he's looking a lot more comfortable.
00:03:11
OllieP
Obviously, Kazemiro, his confidence has obviously rocketed last few last few games.
00:03:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh yeah
00:03:16
OllieP
He's just looked like a different person. he's He looks happy. I think after that screamer, I think he just, he sort of just seems like a different man now, doesn't he? But it's great to see it really is. He looks like he's lighter on his feet. He looks like he's shedded
Bruno Fernandes' Achievements
00:03:29
OllieP
a few pounds as well. And I'd say he looked fat before, but he just looked, he's just looked a lot better. He really has more athletic, um picking out a decent pass as well.
00:03:39
OllieP
And I think that's helped you got when you've got someone next to you that's confident that helps you as well um But yeah, I think we've been we've been good.
00:03:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah.
00:03:47
OllieP
We've been good last few games.
00:03:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:03:49
OllieP
It's been it's been a nice change um I think heads were down when 10 hag was there and I think ruse lifted the spirits and that's what it's all about Isn't it? It's just getting everyone happy and wanting to play together.
00:04:00
OllieP
So it's a bit of a shame that he's gone It really is
00:04:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, they yeah, the the questions after you raise them, how much of that is Ten Hag and how much of that is the players letting the heads drop? You know, four games in, no defeats.
00:04:07
OllieP
Exactly. Yeah.
00:04:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Okay, it was a bit of a, I would say a nothing game against Chelsea.
00:04:14
OllieP
Hmm.
00:04:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
could have It's a game that begged so much more from both sides. and I think it was a good point in the end.
00:04:18
OllieP
Yeah.
00:04:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Dan and I were talking about it when it happened. You know, it was a case of maybe actually, you look back at it four weeks before the match and you're thinking, Chelsea, this is going to be horrible.
00:04:29
OllieP
Yeah.
00:04:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
To come away with a draw is actually not a bad result, all things considered.
00:04:32
OllieP
Hmm.
00:04:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we've got a much-needed win in the Europa League. We needed that win. um you know We've got the win in the League Cup to get us to the quarterfinals.
00:04:37
OllieP
Oh, huge.
00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
I believe we've got Tottenham, so that should be an interesting one.
00:04:44
OllieP
yeah
00:04:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think you're right, it it lifted the spirits ahead of Reuben Amorim's arrival, as we recall this, today is his first day on the job, November 11th, and
00:04:54
OllieP
Welcome.
Team Morale and Recent Wins
00:04:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
welcome to the club, Reuben.
00:04:56
OllieP
Yeah.
00:04:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hopefully we have many happy years together, although look look, those words have been tainted, that phrase has been tainted over the last four or five managers, but look, we have the backing of you for now.
00:04:59
OllieP
Oh, please, please.
00:05:04
OllieP
Yep.
00:05:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
We have the back of the year now.
00:05:08
OllieP
you
00:05:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's just say that. but um As well as that, Bruno Fernandes was a great day for him. He got a goal. ah He's now been, according to Opta, directly involving 100 goals and 170 appearances for Manchester United in the Premier League.
00:05:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's 56 goals, 44 assists, reaching this one milestone with just one more appearance than Cristiano Ronaldo. Now,
00:05:27
OllieP
Wow.
00:05:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's that's not too bad. That's not too bad. So Cristiano Ronaldo, yeah, Cristiano Ronaldo got 100 GNAs on 169 appearances.
00:05:31
OllieP
Not too shabby.
00:05:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bruno Fernandez takes 170. Take from that what you will, I think it just proves that Bruno Fernandez, through all of the, you know, the tough time we've had, he has been a stalwart.
00:05:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
he so He has struggled at the start of this season, but he's hit a gold patch now.
00:05:50
OllieP
Yeah.
00:05:52
OllieP
He seems to always do it, doesn't he? He seems to just go through these phases where you're just really questioning what he's bringing to the squad. And then he just comes in and he's on fire and he's irreplaceable.
00:06:05
OllieP
He is just that player, isn't he? He can be so frustrating sometimes. He's like, what is he doing? A lot of loose passes, shots that are just getting blocked every time, and then he just starts finding his feet. We all know what he's capable of.
00:06:16
OllieP
We all know how good he is. He's got one of the best shots in the Premier League.
00:06:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:19
OllieP
He can pick out a pass from absolutely anything. He's like a quarterback, isn't he? He's like an NFL quarterback, but and he can just find any player. But yeah, it looks like he's he's looking a lot more comfortable. Whether that's because he knows Amrim's coming through, maybe they've got some sort of relationship.
00:06:33
OllieP
There's that Portuguese connection, I don't know. um But he just looks a lot happier. a lot Most of the team look happier. Heads are just up, aren't they? And it seems like everyone's a lot more confident. I know Gennacho, after his
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00:06:44
OllieP
goal, he wasn't celebrating.
00:06:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was just about to mention, I was just about to mention your starboy going at you.
00:06:48
OllieP
Yeah, my star boy, he can do no wrong. Obviously, he was getting a bit criticism, wasn't he? I think, was it a fan? A fan who criticized him a little bit about his his his play, he wasn't finding players, um but which is ridiculous. Obviously, he's still learning his craft, but he's been one of our best players last season and this season as well. He's not been as good as last season, I'd say it, but he still looked good. He's still been a threat every time he's going down that flank on the left side.
00:07:14
OllieP
He's looked dangerous. But yeah, he just needs to get his head up. Should be celebrating a goal like that as well. That's as it's a screamer, honestly. Absolutely. That's all of there the month is a contender. So you should be celebrating that, which is a bit of shame he wasn't.
00:07:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. could it Could be a contender. Could be.
00:07:28
OllieP
Yeah.
00:07:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
I will say as well though, you know, a comprehensive 3-0 win over Leicester. I think it it could have gone either way really.
00:07:34
OllieP
Hmm.
00:07:37
OllieP
Yeah, good.
00:07:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Leicester, as we've already said, Anana's denied indeedy a chance in there.
00:07:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you just think if that chance falls to someone like Jamie Vardy, that's being buried in the back of the net.
00:07:41
OllieP
Hmm.
00:07:45
OllieP
Yeah, 100%.
00:07:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. It's as simple as that. but yeah Still, ah work to do you know Anana had to do the work, he made the save, really well done. But I think overall, I think as well, Ahmad had a really good game.
00:07:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
He didn't get a goal, but we've been saying this time and time again.
00:07:58
OllieP
You look great.
00:08:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think one thing we will talk of of course in part two is how does Ambarim make the impact after the international break? I might have just an idea. Make sure you find out what it is.
00:08:12
OllieP
ah
00:08:13
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We'll be back after this.
00:08:23
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Challenges of the 3-4-3 Formation
00:08:41
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00:08:55
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Right, Reuben Amorim comes in, he's going to bring in this 3-4-3 revolution to Manchester United. We don't often play with three at the back. We haven't really done since Van Gogh and even then you could have, right, right, really said that was a five at the back.
00:09:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think one of the big things that Amoram has to do is win respect to the players and say, you've got to earn the right to play. The way he does that, I think, is starting Garnaccio and Ahmad and leaving Rashford on the bench.
00:09:15
OllieP
Yeah.
00:09:20
OllieP
Yeah, a hundred percent.
00:09:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
like i It has to be, because you've got Rashford here who needs to be at the top of his game. He needs to be pushing himself constantly.
00:09:32
OllieP
Yeah.
00:09:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think it's picked up recently. It has. But you've got Gonacho and Ahmad who are on form. They should not be benched, either of them at the moment.
00:09:40
OllieP
Yeah.
00:09:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you want to create the headache for the manager. Not in the bad way to say, oh, I've got no one to pick, but in the good way of like, I've got too many to pick from.
00:09:44
OllieP
Hmm.
00:09:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, I've got so many good wingers.
00:09:49
OllieP
Hmm.
00:09:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can't play the ball. That's where you need to be. And so putting Rashford on the bench wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. I think and I hope it would spur him on to be sort of right. I've got to be better than these two, you know, and they're getting a goal a game right now.
00:10:04
OllieP
Yeah.
00:10:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
So. let's Let's just see, but yeah, Niall and I have been talking about that 3-4-3 system. Who fits best? How does it play out? Are you playing with attacking midfielders up top or are you playing with wingers? It's an interesting system that he's going to bring in. And whether that comes in from day dot or whether it's a sort of evolution over the next couple of transfer windows to sort of bring in Ambarim's preferred players, his preferred system, remains to be seen. And Ipswich away is ah is going to be, well, let's see if it's a happy happy hunting ground.
00:10:34
OllieP
Yeah, I'm excited to see it. I really am. um I wasn't expecting massive changes straight away. Maybe he's not going to go go in the hole with it and just trying to start with this formation, which would make sense. Be cautious, figure out your players, see if you can actually trust them or not. um So we've got Maserawi. He could probably play as a fullback, him and Dallow. They're both nippy.
00:10:55
OllieP
Maserati has been an absolute revelation this season. He's been brilliant and he can put on the left as well. He's just proved that. So maybe he could start it, but I just couldn't see it for the time being. and Maybe he's going to be a little bit cautious, which is, like I said, completely understandable.
00:11:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but the thing is, though, that Matt and I have been talking and and he said to me, Matt, you only get one chance as Manchester United manager, really.
00:11:09
OllieP
but
00:11:16
OllieP
Yeah.
00:11:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
So do you play it safe or do you just go out? this This is the thing. Does he have the players ready to try the three, four, three formation?
00:11:21
OllieP
Mm.
00:11:24
OllieP
Yeah.
00:11:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, it's going to take ah ah you know a few games to sort of kick in because this is a system that I think is going to need time.
00:11:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's going to need the right players with the right mindset. So, you know, the wide players, do you play fullbacks and wingbacks there, or do you play more attacking minded players who are going to be trusted to run up and down that wing there and really claim it as their own?
00:11:41
OllieP
Yeah.
00:11:46
OllieP
Yeah, really cover some ground as well um I've heard is that if I heard news, I sure might be coming back as well as you've been training like training I've heard I've heard something wherever he gets. ah I don't want to jinx him
00:11:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
You already have, it's okay, don't worry about it.
00:12:00
OllieP
I probably have. He's probably got injured in the canteen now, hasn't he? He tripped up over something. I'm hoping not. But yeah, it's it's great if we can just have a few more options on either side. So if we got Maserawi and Dallow that can play on the right, we've got options there. We've also got Shawl that could be coming back. Well, last year, hopefully he's going to be coming back December, sort of January time if he's got his own little training program that's going on.
00:12:22
OllieP
So we it looks like we could have the players there. We could have like the energy that we've been lacking on both those flanks. right Obviously they've been playing well, Dallow and Maserati, but it's just good to have all these other options as well. So naturally left footed players that works because they can, they come with more width. Um, but it just depends what he's going to do. Um, I'm excited. I really am excited to see what he's capable of. The Portuguese league, as I've said to the guys before, it's completely different. Honestly, he's got a different personnel for a different league.
00:12:51
OllieP
So it'd be really interesting. And I think no disrespect to Ipswich. I think it'd be a really good game to maybe test out. I don't think he will, like I said, but it'd be great if he just give it a little test. Maybe, maybe in the second half, switch things up.
00:13:03
OllieP
Uh, if it's not working and just give it a little run out, because we need to, we need to try out this formation and everyone wants to see it.
00:13:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah well we do
00:13:10
OllieP
Everyone's excited. We want to see attacking football. We don't want to see us sitting back. We're not, we're not a defensive team. We're United.
Strategic Speculations for Ipswich Game
00:13:17
OllieP
We attack. We go out there and we destroy teams. That's what we're supposed to do.
00:13:21
OllieP
So hopefully this guy's gonna provide that. and He's gonna he's going to dazzle us.
00:13:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the plan. That's the plan, eh?
00:13:28
OllieP
That's it. um Very exciting.
00:13:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we'll have to wait and see. Leniura, obviously, as well, back in training. um So let's hope he you can make the pitch at some point this year and see what he can do. I mean, he would really suit a three-at-the-back system because three-at-the-back really needs, you know, your wide center backs to sort of cover the flanks if you've got two
00:13:41
OllieP
Yeah, that's it.
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, two flankers who are going to run up and down the pitch. You need your centre backs there to be able to make the recovery runs and you need them to be not only quick enough, but clever enough, intelligent players on on and off the ball to make sure the three of the back aren't exposed as as as much as they could be.
00:13:51
OllieP
Hmm. Yeah.
00:14:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it's whether you play one of the midfielders in that four across across the middle of the park, play them slightly deeper to allow you that cover, to allow a cover on the wing. So if you have the right side going up, the right centimeter mid stays back just just to provide that coverage, allows the rest of the team to push forward.
00:14:18
OllieP
Yeah.
00:14:22
OllieP
Hmm.
00:14:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
it it's it's good As you say, it's going to be an interesting formation and tactic to watch. And we just have to wait until Ipswich. And it's not a bad time either, because as far as I see, we've got no players called up for England.
00:14:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
So everybody's going to be back at Carrington, learning the trade, learning the new formation.
00:14:34
OllieP
Yep.
00:14:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
So that that can't be a bad thing. I mean, it's a bad thing that no Man United players have made the cut again. ah But it has worked in our favor in this case, so you know you win some you lose some
00:14:44
OllieP
It's worked in our favor. Yeah.
00:14:49
OllieP
yeah Yeah, like I said, it's just going to be exciting to see if it all comes to fruition or not. I think with the spirit going through the squad at the moment, I think it'd be a good time to maybe mix things up, give it a try, see what happens.
00:15:04
OllieP
um And like I said, Ipswich could be a good team to try it against. It really could. It's not like we could we're playing against Liverpool or Man City, even though they're not playing well at the moment, where we could get absolutely destroyed. No disrespect to Ipswich, but
00:15:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was absolute massive disrespect Ipswich there.
00:15:18
OllieP
Yeah, it was it huge.
00:15:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
I will have to say, yeah. this is Don't forget, this is an Ips...
00:15:21
OllieP
I know they just speak spurs. I know they just speak spurs, but...
00:15:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And guess who Spurs beat, you know? This this calls for a Kieran McKenna Masterclass at this moment in time.
00:15:26
OllieP
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Happy Hunting Ground, I wonder, but hey-ho, hey-ho. Well, as you say, the Ipswich game would be as good a time as any to to really solidify and try out that new system, but...
00:15:36
OllieP
Yeah.
00:15:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ipswich are not a team to be underestimated. They have put in some good performances. Liam Dalap is bang in form.
00:15:46
OllieP
yeah
00:15:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he is not one to be underestimated. A product of the City Academy, now he is forming himself as a you know a Premier League striker. You know, that he he has got to be, well, we've got to be careful of Dalap, especially, but um and that's going to be something that we have to keep our eye on.
00:16:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, the noisy neighbours have got another striker that they've produced with the Premier League.
00:16:07
OllieP
I know, I know, seems to start churning them out, don't they? It's it's it's crazy. But yeah, it's, I think that first win, the first win is for Amorim is going to be huge. Absolutely huge. Especially against Ipswich. so There's going to be question marks. If he doesn't get a win or he doesn't get a decent result, we've not looked comfortable after.
00:16:25
OllieP
The good feelings that's going around Old Trafford at the moment with what Rude's done over the last like four or five games. um Yeah, he needs to get results, isn't he? So as I said, he's probably going to throw caution to the wind.
00:16:37
OllieP
Not caution to the wind, sorry. pretty He's probably going to play it quite safe. But we we need to see this we need see this new ideology. We really do. We see it quite quickly.
00:16:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:16:46
OllieP
So let's see what happens. Watch this space.
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Watch
Manchester United's League Performance
00:16:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
this space. Yes. Let's see what happens against it. So we've got a bit of time to sort of compose our thoughts for then. And we'll give you time to compose your thoughts. We head into the final section. We'll be back after these messages.
00:17:08
OllieP
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00:17:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
And as we get into that international break, as Ollie have already said, it it's time for a SipRep.
00:17:48
OllieP
and
00:17:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's plenty of people that you know will be sitting out on the sidelines, unfortunately. You see this story about David Koot, though? um
00:17:56
OllieP
Yeah, wild. Literally news just come in, isn't it?
00:17:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very well.
00:17:59
OllieP
News flash.
00:17:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, we'll talk about that quickly and because he's now been suspended with by immediate with immediate effect by the PGMOL, making derogatory comments about Jurgen Klopp.
00:18:05
OllieP
Wow.
00:18:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
So there's no going to be no further comment by PGMOL until the investigation has been completed. There's also no comment from Liverpool on it as well. According to Sky Sports News, they have declined to comment to have Liverpool.
00:18:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I guess that's all we'll say for now. um But yeah, I'm not going to make any comment on the video. We'll just leave it at that.
00:18:27
OllieP
very very bizarre it's a very bizarre video lots of expletives and i don't know who his friend is or so-called friends stitched him up like a kipper really hasn't he by posting that video but yeah
00:18:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
move Yeah, very bizarre.
00:18:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be careful. Be careful what you talk about in your spare time. Well, listen, we'll move on from that because there's no really other comment we can make on it. Let's have a sit rep 13th in the league. Not the best start in the world, really. let's let's be honest with you, it's it's still our worst start in a modern Premier League era. You have to go all the way back to the 1970s to find an as-worst start to any league campaign for Manchester United. it It makes for grim reading. Even with a win against Leicester, we're still 13th. You know, we have a goal difference of, I believe we have, it's of zero now. Well,
Defensive Strengths and Scoring Needs
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
hey, progress. ah But in that time, we've scored 15 points, four wins, three draws, four defeats,
00:19:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah We have now scored 12 goals and conceded 12. Ollie, what gut feelings then? 13th at this stage. what's What's the thinking? What's your thoughts?
00:19:31
OllieP
and Well, like you say, that we said before defensively, we've not looked that bad. Honestly, Inanna has saved our bacon a few times. He really has. He's been outstanding this season. He's got to be a standout performer. He's he made some heroic saves, but the defense hasn't looked that bad. There always been has been a few games where you can pick out a few defenders. Martinez hasn't been great this season.
00:19:52
OllieP
He's usually an absolute rock. Delicked. He's had a few moments where he's looked a bit weak. He's got overpowered, but honestly, overall, I think most of our defenders look really good. We've been quite sturdy, like compared to previous seasons.
00:20:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah i mean
00:20:06
OllieP
But so I'm thinking it's just the lack of goals. It really is. We'll, we'll concede a couple, but we're not scoring any. That's the thing. When Mike can see one, we're not scoring any goals. And that's what it is. And that the last four games, that positivity where we've actually started to score again, um, it does make you feel a lot better.
00:20:23
OllieP
It really does. It's 13, 13 from the season is, it's not, it's not acceptable at all.
00:20:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean, No.
00:20:28
OllieP
Not for, not for what we pay for players, what payers are being played. and the standards that should should be set at Manchester United, it's it's not acceptable at all. But it's it's looking a lot better, it really is.
00:20:39
OllieP
I think defensively, like I said, a lot sturdier, we just need those goals, we really do.
00:20:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah this
00:20:44
OllieP
We need Hoyland chipping in now, we really do. Gennacho's getting in there, Ahmad's chipping in. Um, yeah, we just need oil and to be getting 10 plus goals a season. I think just to really push us and help us out, just to get to get us up the table, getting the top half. That's the thing I was hoping we get.
00:21:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's only three teams that have conceded fewer goals than Manchester United. Newcastle have conceded 11. So who good for them. Liverpool have conceded six.
00:21:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's mad, by the way. And Nottingham Forest, who are currently fifth, have conceded 10 goals so far in the Premier League.
00:21:14
OllieP
Wow.
00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
So actually, yeah, fair fair enough to Forest.
00:21:19
OllieP
Wow.
00:21:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, they're bitter rivals, but fair enough to them.
00:21:23
OllieP
Mm.
00:21:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've made a fantastic start to the league.
00:21:24
OllieP
Brilliant.
Climbing the League and Future Optimism
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Unlike us, and I think that the defeats have, when when the defeats have really come, they have been heavy. Heavy and embarrassing.
00:21:31
OllieP
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, the Liverpool, like, you go into a game against Liverpool, I mean, the form they were in there were going to be a tough side to beat. I think, you know, if we had lost that game, you know, 2-1, 1-0, even 3-2, we probably could have said, oh, it just wasn't to be.
00:21:43
OllieP
Mm.
00:21:47
OllieP
Wasn't that day. Yeah.
00:21:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we could have easily lost by, it could have been a cricket score that game.
00:21:51
OllieP
Oh, yeah.
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
It really could have. And, and similar with Tottenham, I mean, Portland R was up at the game, at the Tottenham game, and watched United get battered, absolutely battered by Tottenham Hotspur.
00:21:59
OllieP
Yeah, I'll be there, yeah. Yeah.
00:22:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And yeah, I'm sorry that there was, ah you know, Spurs were catching straights from me earlier on in the season. I've been well and truly calm and I'm not apologising, but I certainly felt that, that burned.
00:22:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
So thank you for that Spurs.
00:22:17
OllieP
Yeah, they did. They absolutely handed us one, didn't they? it It was just horrible to watch. It really was. And that was when a lot of question marks about the lit as well. he was and Dallow as well. They were both like terrible on the day.
00:22:28
OllieP
ah Just lots of gaps everywhere. just We were just exposed every time. But I think maybe that was an eye-opener. Maybe that was the wake-up call. I think we've tidied stuff up at the back a little bit more.
00:22:39
OllieP
But like I said, we just wasn't we weren't scoring goals. We just weren't getting those goals to like fight for a draw or fight for a win. So I think we're on the up. I really do. I've got a positive feeling about this.
00:22:51
OllieP
I think we're on the up now.
00:22:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah i think I think you're right. you know it's It's a case of the goals really came in the last game, but you you expected of them two to sort of fly in against Leicester.
00:22:58
OllieP
Hmm. Yeah.
00:23:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
No disrespect to Leicester, but with the form we have against promoted sides, again, just having a look at Opta, we've ah We're unbeaten in 19-1-9 straight to Premier League games against promoted side, taking 53 out of a possible 57 points.
00:23:13
OllieP
Wow.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
17 wins, 2 draws. Our last such defeat against a promoted side was Claudio Renieri's Watford back in 2021 in November where we lost 4-1.
00:23:23
OllieP
wow
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, it's been a good run against the re promoted sides, that's for sure. So, it's kind of an expected result, but it still was was a result we needed to get over the line. You know, Leicester are a good team.
00:23:35
OllieP
Mmm.
00:23:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
let's Let's not beat around the bush. They have some good plays. They have Jamie Vardy, for goodness sake.
00:23:40
OllieP
Yeah.
00:23:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you'd be a fool to rule out Jamie Vardy from any game, in any scenario.
00:23:44
OllieP
Yeah, so they're playing some nice football with on the attack, they look dangerous exposed to expose this quite a few times. So yeah, they're not a team to be taken lightly at all. I think ah that was just lapses in concentration and against our opportunities and we took them because that's something that we haven't been doing just taking our opportunities, just being ruthless in front of goal.
00:24:03
OllieP
That's it. That's where we've been really poor. um But yeah,
00:24:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
but But to end on a slightly better note, Ollie, I know it's been a bit doom and gloom, but we're on 15 points, which puts us 13th. Chelsea
Season Outlook and Final Thoughts
00:24:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
are third on 19.
00:24:18
OllieP
It's not a massive gap, is it?
00:24:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
were four points behind Chelsea and they're they're currently you know in that battle for Champions League and ah let's face it City are you know they're surely they're there for the taking you know five points between them and Liverpool now if City keep dropping points and if the top four all keep dropping points against each other you would expect the likes of Nottingham Forest to hit some sort of rough patch at some point in the season maybe I'm wrong maybe they'll go on and get Europe you know doing an Aston Villa
00:24:31
OllieP
Yeah.
00:24:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
maybe i'll be I'll have egg on my face, but you would have thought Tottenham tried to rise up the table. Newcastle were eighth at the moment. They'll probably stay there. Maybe they might challenge. I think lack of investment in the players has been a problem for Newcastle.
00:24:56
OllieP
Yeah. Yeah, massively.
00:24:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
So the fact they're still top half is great. But yeah, a little bit of lighter news. We are only four points behind Chelsea and Chelsea are in the third. So
00:25:06
OllieP
Yeah. It can change so quickly.
00:25:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's not over. It can. it can I think this this has been the story of this season. you know City have have not been in great form and that's how much things can change.
00:25:12
OllieP
Yeah.
00:25:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know You get a couple of injuries, you get an injury crisis on your hands and all of a sudden you're you're losing games you shouldn't be losing. and you know Not to wish ill on other teams and players, but you know we've had our fair share of injury crises.
00:25:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's happened about three times in the past three seasons. say of that what you will, but hopefully let's see what happens. As I said, we're only four points away from Chelsea.
00:25:39
OllieP
Yeah, and exactly, and it's while we're coming up to midway through November, not far off.
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:25:44
OllieP
We've got the Christmas period. We've got an absolute mountain of games to get through. If we go on a good run, we could be up there, man. We could be back up there, top four. We could we looking we could be looking at the golden.
00:25:55
OllieP
the Golden Gates, we really could. So hopefully we'll just go on a nice run now. Amara's going to come in. He's going to feel those happy feelings. And yeah, we're going to be right up there with the best because Lake City, absolutely.
00:26:07
OllieP
They're crumbling at the moment, aren't they? It's not looking great. It looks like yeah it's gone from a two horse race to a one horse race at the moment. So Liverpool, or they could storm it on the city season. So I know, I know, I hopefully neither of them do.
00:26:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Never say never, Ollie. I've learned in this league.
00:26:21
OllieP
but
00:26:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Never say never and never rule out city. Those are one things I've learned in the 2010s and 20s.
00:26:23
OllieP
yeah i made the golden mistake didn't i yeah yeah you too buddy it's been good it's been good
00:26:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you did there. Well, Ollie, it's been a pleasure to to have you on the, or to be there on the podcast with you again. It's been lovely to hear your voice again. And make sure as well, yeah, you enjoy your international break.
00:26:36
OllieP
long ah
00:26:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll be here with you periodically as well throughout it. Not just me and Ollie, the whole team will as well. But enjoy the international break. We've got to Greece coming up on Thursday, so two days time when you're hearing this.
00:26:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, let's see how we can get on with that in the United players. We shall see.
00:26:52
OllieP
Oh, come on England.
00:26:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
We shall see. Well, hey, look, look, Greece won last time. What can happen next time?
00:26:57
OllieP
Yeah, we're we're out for revenge.
00:26:59
OllieP
Surely we're out for revenge now, this one. Yeah.
00:26:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, surely, surely.
00:27:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, Ollie, thank you so much for joining me. It's been a pleasure.
00:27:05
OllieP
Cheers, buddy. Thank you very much.
00:27:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And and i I've been Kieran.
00:27:06
OllieP
Take care.
00:27:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:27:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
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