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Jo: Hey everyone, Joe and Amelie back in black. Dark blue, I guess. Hello. i
Amelie: Hello.
Jo: We just watched Dawn the Dogman by Seth Breedlove. We're going talk about this one on Streaming Demons Nows. So today, today, today is our first documentary together.
Amelie: Yes.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: Yes, indeed.
Jo: We should do like the whole fantasticals or the movies or TV shows and stuff like that. And this documentary team is something that Branick used to cover all the time for Haunted MTL.
Jo: And so I saw Seth's PR team come up and like, yeah, du Dog Man of Michigan, why not? It's interesting, right?
Amelie: Mm-hmm.
Jo: So I'm going to read you the IMDb. This is what what it says in a nutshell, and I think Seth wrote this one. So here we go. for decades, a Michigan dogman has haunted the forests and backgrounds of Great Lake great leg State, a towering wolf-like creature said to walk on two legs, terrifying those who cross its path.
Jo: The gripping documentary delves deep into legend, exploring chilling eyewitness accounts, historical records, and never seen before. that Interviews the late cryptozoologist and author Linda Godfrey. I wish wish I would have read this before because I was blindsided. i didn't know she was late. I thought she was on time.
Jo: Whose research helped bring Dogman into the public eye. Through expert analysis and stunning reenactments, Dawn of the Dogman uncovered the truth behind one of America's most endearing cryptid mysteries, a.k.a. the whole day. No, not the whole day. The Dogman.
Jo: I will tell you this right now. The movie comes in at an hour and 17 minutes. it It is a documentary. It costs about eight grand to make, according to IMDb. And it is pretty smooth. It comes out, ah came out like three days ago when we were recording this.
Jo: But this is our first documentary watching together at all. Like, we didn't watch any documentaries before, right?
Amelie: We never, never, and never and never, ever.
Jo: Like, not even as friends yeah that's thought I don't think so I'm trying to think but nothing happens yeah this like that our first yeah
Amelie: No. I don't recall. Let me think.
Amelie: No. No, we never. We've been to museums. We've been to art exhibitions. We've been to historical places. I took you to different restaurants and stuff.
Jo: Owen Church yeah
Amelie: you we We went to different things, but we never. Did we go to the cinema together? no i don't think so i don't think so tv we watch tv we watch the movies on your computer but no no no we never it's a first first yeah
Jo: I don't think so. We always projected or like watch TV or stuff like that. Yeah, I know. And.
Jo: and On the projection and out or at the computer as well. Yeah.
Jo: Yeah, because we never went through like. Anything that was even nonfiction, it was always some kind of like movie.
Amelie: correct
Jo: So this is our first time seeing it together as a documentary type view. And this is important because we never know how each other is going to react to different genres.
Jo: You know, like, would this be boring as shit? Or would this be like, what you know would you and I watch a rom-com? Probably. you know, would you and I watch The Bachelorette? I fucking hope not.
Jo: If you make me, I will. But fuck, man, that's to painful for
Amelie: Only if it's something like something funny, like something really, really funny. Like I do believe we could watch, for example, a very funny movie, like rid ridiculously rid ridiculous.
Jo: Oh yeah, you know if it's something funny. Yeah.
Amelie: Sure. Why not? Horror movie? Yes. Drama movie? Maybe. Like it depends on the time or the actor, etc. hu Documentary like this, it works because it was Wisconsin, the state you're from.
Amelie: At the same time, I really like this kind of documentary about mystical creature and monster, you know, because every country, every region, even in France, we have mystical creature, legend, etc.
Jo: Right. The cryptoid.
Amelie: And it's really interesting.
Jo: Called English.
Amelie: Like, yeah. like Yes. Yes. Like I was talking during the documentary about Mont Saint-Michel, that's what I call
Jo: Right.
Amelie: Apparently, in Mont Saint-Michel, there were a giant crocodile, and the dragon would be either dragon de Komodo, you know, the mystical dragon from the island of Komodo, or a giant crocodile.
Jo: Quack, quack, quack.
Jo: Right.
Amelie: And it's possible, it's possible.
Jo: And that goes back into the possibilities of what this would be. And it's weird because this does take place in two different states. One is Michigan, like the Michigan Dogman, but it heads back to Wisconsin through Linda's work.
Jo: And so it's this kind of like the the Great North Woods area. And again, I did not read the IMDb before we watched. I never do.
Jo: i barely read the press release that goes with it. i just see Seth's name going, I haven't seen a Seth read love in forever. Absolutely, I'll take this one. It sounds interesting. You know, crypt you know same thing. um i Crypto, cryptides, whatever want to call it.
Jo: I'm kind of like a geek like that. I enjoy them. And I grew up in northern Wisconsin. We had the hoedag. The hoedag. which is, you know, the Rhinelander hoedag is basically a hoedag fest now.
Jo: And so they just have like the dawn of the dog man and then that part of Michigan be like a thrown, you know, stone throw away. It's kind of interesting to me. I liked this as a documentary.
Jo: I think it was well directed.
Jo: The sound and the music was top notch. It goes with it. Hour and 17. I'm going tell you the truth. Yesterday, Friday, right?
Jo: We're taking this on a sunday Saturday. Saturday the 13th, December. I was up at 5 a.m. because I had another job. Friend, leave the house before 6.00.
Jo: And then fuck off. And I think I got home like a little before 6 p.m.
Jo: Laid down for about two hours. And then did last drive in from 9 p.m. to almost, it was past 2 a.m. And then woke up again so I can go the United States real fast to get my mail.
Jo: And then we did a episode on...
Jo: the seller, we already did one stream of demons today. we did an episode. Then we watched this and now we're doing this right now.
Amelie: Yes. yes
Jo: I'm fucking white. I'm just like right now. And it held my attention. but something like I was just like, i was listening sometimes more than I was watching it, but it held my attention.
Jo: It was interesting. It flew by like the hour and 17. wasn't nothing dragged. Nothing's right. It wasn't like like, oh my God, I can't believe they're showing this again. like It was just ah an entertaining documentary.
Jo: like You get the same kind of vibe or.
Amelie: Yeah, didn't realize it was that long. I was checking very quickly around the end. I'm like, okay, 15 minutes left. And I saw how long was like, whoa, time flies.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: And we didn't talk that much. Sometimes when we are watching a movie and it's little bit, what did drag on? We like to talk to each other, you know, having conversation.
Jo: bus balls of the movie yeah
Amelie: This time, no, we just commented the movie and talk about the different people, ah who intervened in the documentary. But that's all. Like, it was really interesting. And it's beautiful. There is beautiful landscape.
Jo: yeah it was nicely done
Amelie: There is interesting ah explanation. Like, the artwork at the beginning of the documentary, top-notch.
Jo: was nice and done.
Amelie: Yeah, yeah.
Jo: It was a cool little beginning story. kind of It reminded me a bit of Harry Potter.
Amelie: And I learned something. I learned something about a box the state.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: as They explain, they talk about the settlers, what's going on with Indians, and what happened in the modern time, what are the the story about the song, what kind of people contacted the radio station.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: But it's not just a documentary about a mystical creature. It's really documentary about the countryside. And this little hometown, far away, high goals, easy highway, what's going on, et cetera, what kind of people do you meet?
Amelie: And I'm like, that's really good. They haven't mentioned a serial killer and say, hey, just so you know, they were serial killer. There is a lot of people to travel, who go through America.
Jo: Yeah, there's bodies here.
Amelie: We used to have a lot of people because of Detroit, with ah all the city, et cetera.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: Also, we used to have Indians, so maybe it's an Indian person who was wearing a mask, cetera, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Jo: Also, meth. People are making meth.
Amelie: Yes.
Jo: Yeah. And they actually did like that.
Amelie: Yeah.
Jo: They picked up the the the mask. Yeah, it it it goes the gambit and everyone is presented.
Amelie: Mm-hmm.
Jo: like for me, this is this is if you ever seen the T&E channel on any of their really well produced material. It goes along with the introduction of the problem.
Jo: or the focus, and then introduction of the witnesses, and introduction of the experts, right? And they talk back and forth like that, and they they reenact a little bit here and there. It follows that trajectory, and it gives one of the one of the experts, a lot of screen time.
Jo: And again, I didn't read this beforehand. I was just like, ah so I was unaware until the very, very, very end. So it's not like a spoiler because Linda Godfrey, the journalist who started doing like the original dogma stuff, she gives these great interviews and she's warm and she's just,
Jo: like reflective and just someone you want to listen to. And then like towards the end, they're like, and she's dead. I'm like, damn it. She's dead.
Jo: i was just getting into this story about Linda Godfrey telling me a story. Now yeah now I know she's dead. that through i mean, it threw me of a bit. Did it throw you at all or no?
Jo: You're like, yeah, whatever.
Amelie: So it was very sad because she was so interesting and warm.
Jo: Yeah. So full life.
Amelie: Like she did a history research about the beast.
Jo: Yeah. Yeah.
Amelie: She contacted locals and native to say, what do you think about it? Is it just a gossip, etc.? She was aware about the radio station. So she was very open-minded. Is it a tradition from the Indian native folk folklore? Is it...
Amelie: psychologically speaking a problem because the radio was with a song and people maybe did a little bit of drugs or drinking and getting tired
Jo: or just living in the fucking Northwoods itself, really.
Amelie: Is it an animal, like a bear or a sort of mountain lion who live around, etc.? What's going on? And she got to see the beast.
Amelie: And she never say, oh, that's the beast. She's like open to imagination and interpretation, which is really good.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: And say, you know, I met a lot of people and... I got a lot of documents. So you can see she treated like, oh, that's lovely. That's a part of Michigan with a different beast. And there is one title of a book. It's Weird Wisconsin. And I like it.
Amelie: Weird Wisconsin. It's really cute.
Jo: I'm basically in Weird Wisconsin.
Amelie: Yeah.
Jo: You know, that that's journalism.
Amelie: I really like that story because back in France, we have La Bête du Gévaudan. The Gévaudan beast with this sort of maybe wolf beast who devoured people.
Jo: Okay.
Amelie: It was a beast. It was a big, big, big, big big sort of wolf mixed with a dog.
Jo: hate you.
Amelie: and a lot of zoologists work on it but it's still a mystery we don't know what happened we think it's somebody who was living in the forest who had dogs who ingrid a sort of dogs and trains the dogs to just kill people or maybe a white animal who was tamed basically so we don't know biocircular who mauled people because it was big mystery there's a lot of story in france like
Jo: attack.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: Le Mont Saint Michel, the mystical creature, dragon from Mont Saint Michel, who must be a crocodile, or dragon Komodo completely lost in Mont Saint Michel.
Jo: Right.
Amelie: Or for example, in my region and my city, we have the witch from the river and the canal. And Marie Gruette.
Amelie: And my uncle officially died from her. when you die drunk in the river or you drown because you you you drink too much and you fell into the river etc we have this expression dying from marie grouette dying from the witch because you fell what people do very simple they go they have a peace stop in the river and they fall into the river because they're too drunk that's what we do we say
Jo: Okay. Right.
Jo: right
Jo: The witch reclaims him. That's weird. But I get it. It kind of reminds me of a scene in Jojo Rabbit. But i kept thinking about Bailiff and the Grendel.
Jo: So you have the 13th Warrior like with Antonio Banderas. And how they're like, oh, there's big monster, but they're just people dressed up as... And I'm like, I wonder it's just that. They're wearing wolf pelt.
Jo: like They just got the fucking the headdress of the wolf pet headdress on and just fucking with people. Because they just want to be left alone.
Amelie: Yeah, like for example, the settler. It's a story of the guy who sees a river, sort of straight dog. He's like, okay, straight dog, come to my boat.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: And he just stands up, he's two meters tall, and he has a well-fed. And i'm like, it must be someone who is really jacked, really strong, and wears a mask, and come up, and do some stuff, you know what I mean?
Jo: It's the Wolverine. It's Hugh Jackman.
Amelie: To scare the people around.
Jo: right and and And that's what I really liked about the documentary. Let everyone define it for themselves. It wasn't pushing any one an agenda.
Amelie: and
Jo: And there's some things i will...
Amelie: Correct.
Jo: Some of the witnesses, I'm like, oh, this guy probably saw it. And then sometimes, like, this guy went back for some fucking reason. I'm like, how the fuck would he go back without a gun? And then part of the story seems true. And then part of the story, I'm like, oh, no, no, he's just fucking lying.
Jo: like this done
Amelie: Mm-hmm.
Jo: I hate to call people that, but I'm like, no, dude, it sorry. that The whole body language shifts entirely during the story.
Amelie: Mm-hmm.
Jo: I'm like, oh, he's making shit up now. And then the most American story, if you grew up in the North ways, like I did, this story is just like, it's make a perfect sense where the grandfather, this guy was talking about my grandfather and, you know, the, the whole thing. And they pushed the, you know, trying to get in. So he blocked it with this thing. Then they all went outside all four kids with ah with their dad went outside with, with shotguns.
Jo: each Each kid, each small child had their own rifle.
Amelie: Yeah.
Jo: I'm like, yeah, that's realistic, but that's that's America.
Amelie: Yeah. Oh, the lady, the lady with a strong accent from Wisconsin.
Jo: but That's hard rope.
Amelie: Yeah, I used to date my boyfriend and we would go hunting. Yeah, sure, you're going to date and hunt, to you know, like, yeah, so we had my gun, know, I saw a way, I see two big ears, and it's two meters tall, so I grab my gun, you know, and I shoot him, and like, yeah, that's so American.
Jo: Yeah.
Jo: Exactly.
Jo: it is.
Amelie: We were on a date with short people, you know, with
Jo: and when It's like Where I grew up. And that's what I'm saying. loud'm sound like If you, during the movie, you're like if you ever want to see where everyone looks and talks like where I grew up, right there.
Jo: That's probably closest to my real accent you'll ever going to
Amelie: What's that? What's that?
Jo: Right?
Amelie: the
Jo: And my accent will come back out.
Amelie: So I was with my boyfriend, you know, walking down the forest. We were shooting some rabbit we were dating at that time. And I look away and I saw something and I say, what's that?
Amelie: So I grab my gun. I didn't scream. ba Bam, bam. And I think it's gone. Like I would yell. I would yell to death and shit myself if I see you a wolf, like the human wolf.
Jo: Oh, yeah. And there's some things, but then there's also like the, they're interdimensional creatures like, oh, fuck off. I can't. But you know what? I can say, oh, fuck off because Seth is bringing this as a documentary and he's giving them full credit to say whatever the fuck they believe.
Amelie: person
Jo: And as a viewer, I get full credit by saying, i'll fuck off to some things and still doubt.
Amelie: at the same time when they talk about the native they say there is a ceremony native did with some meat exitterra respecting his tradition and they saw one of the beast and they maybe think it's a creature or divinity or something like that so why not
Jo: Yeah.
Jo: Some fantasy.
Jo: Yeah.
Jo: Yeah. And that allows you to have doubt and allows you to make up your own mind, which is what a good documentary should do. It shouldn't force one agenda on you. it should Here's the facts as presented by. Here's the truth postmodern wise. Here's the things that are presented by the people who say they witness it. And here's some experts talking about it.
Amelie: Correct. And I really like that because it makes everything the history of Wisconsin, the legends, the original one,
Jo: Yeah.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: The one ah written by the ancestor, my great-grandfather was fishing and this is what he saw.
Jo: Right.
Amelie: People who want to be anonymous and say this is what happened to me, i don't know. The radio your story. The story of the song written by the guy who's like, I did that for a joke.
Jo: Yeah, that was interesting. Yeah.
Amelie: I did take this and that. We listened to that song. I was like listening.
Jo: It's good song.
Amelie: said, it's a beautiful song. Like it's very serious.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: Taking real police reports, but mixing both, you know, and telling turningning the story of the legend of the dog hog.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: But people reacting saying, I saw the dog hog. I saw the dog hog. So maybe people who... because of the song, just boom, play with their imagination.
Amelie: Possible. Possible. But no one is laughing at
Jo: No. Right.
Amelie: the person think interdimensional the guy's a truck driver believe him he saw something maybe was it a bear maybe he saw something and uh i really like that because it's like look i i really don't know what i saw this is what happened i'm a truck driver i drive hours and hours on it was dark in the forest i saw that thing i stopped my My wheel had a problem.
Amelie: It was really dark. Maybe saw bear. he got scared.
Jo: I know what he saw.
Amelie: Maybe. We don't know.
Jo: saw a winning the poo. With Piglet.
Amelie: He saw in his pool. Yeah.
Jo: And he was like, I'm a cat winning the poo.
Amelie: Yeah. Yeah.
Jo: Right at that tap.
Amelie: I remember watching a documentary on YouTube about policemen and they're like, the funniest thing is truck drivers, when they call 911, say, you won't believe what I see.
Jo: Yeah.
Amelie: And often it's a bear who, you know, play with the trash or they saw, for example, a deer or something like that. You know what I mean? Because they drive for long hours, they're alone in the dark, they hear beasts and stuff like that.
Amelie: they can see things, people will get drunk, etc.
Jo: I agree. fetamines
Amelie: So, voila. But I really like the melting pot of the history, the landscape, people who have the habit to hunt.
Amelie: Like, I believe her. I believe the woman who hunt with her boyfriend and she saw something weird, you know, like, come on, like, the animal kingdom is beautiful. Like, yeah. Yeah.
Jo: No, i agree. agree. And then you can make up your own... The the movie is out right now on streaming. Go check it out. If you would do not know Small Town Monsters with any of Seth Breedlove's stuff, check it all out. It's all good.
Jo: And the Dogman one... I've never heard, grew up in that area, I never heard the fucking dog, man. So it was interesting for me to go like, oh, there's more than just what I know from that area cryptozoology-wise, which is nice.
Amelie: I really liked in this documentary as a French person, your people called the dogman Lugaru.
Jo: Oh,
Amelie: Lugaru.
Jo: yeah.
Amelie: And i was like, oh, so they used to be French. They were taken territory by the English. And then the beast, what's called Lugaru.
Amelie: French. <unk>e me
Jo: Right.
Amelie: you like it get at an nick dot
Jo: And as as the Luguru French and the Internet get together, we'll say this I believe it's a great movie. It's a great, even just a great kind of date movie. You just like learn some stuff and like watch it have some fun.
Jo: And again, with Seth Breedlove, you can't really go wrong with his stuff. It's always well done. And it makes me, I'm i'm a bit jealous.
Jo: I am. Because I'm like, how much how much was this? Like Dawn of the Dogman cost $8,000. Why the fuck am I not making documentaries?
Jo: You know, I shit, man, what am I doing? And i I love it. Like, this is something, I would watch this, I definitely watch this streaming.
Jo: I would watch it at a limited release theater. Like, it doesn't have to be IMAX, you know, all that shit, but I would watch it in, like, an art theater. Like, it it a nice little day out. I would actually watch this in big screen.
Jo: It's nice little day out, you know? So, If you would want to see it, it is, once again, Dawn of the Dogman 2025. Original title, The Dawn of the Dogman.
Jo: They changed the title. They got rid of the the. Bye-bye the. Too many fucking words on the poster. but By Seth Breedlove. Check it out. You will not be disappointed. And maybe if you think one way or the other, let us know over at Streaming Demons.
Jo: Like to subscribe. See some shit. And you know what's coming next. The half myself, Joe, and my co-host, Amelie, we bid you good day.
Jo: Bye, everyone. Go check it out. Be good. Deuces.
