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Streamin’ Demons – Honey Bunch Breakdown: Memory Loss, Twisted Love & Shudder Gem image

Streamin’ Demons – Honey Bunch Breakdown: Memory Loss, Twisted Love & Shudder Gem

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Honey Bunch on Shudder gets the full Streamin’ Demons treatment. Jo & Amelie dive into the slow-burn psychological thriller, unpacking marriage tests, experimental trauma treatments, nudity debates, European vs. American views on love, and those eerie ear-bleeding jumps. A perfect twisted Valentine’s watch with real emotional weight.

KEY MOMENTS

  • Opening chaos – Jo skips the Super Bowl for this instead, calls out slow-burn burnout from prior films but praises the purposeful build.
  • Main plot twist buildup – Diana’s memory loss and the remote facility’s “treatments” ramp up, revealing dark marriage truths and identity questions—who are we without our past?
  • Character study – Homer’s shifting likability (loving yet super weird/annoying) vs. Diana’s intellectual, honest vibe; parallels in paired relationships (husband-wife, father-daughter) add layers.
  • Jo’s big take – Riffs on full-frontal nudity casting calls, compares to Game of Thrones old-dude scenes, and questions American prudishness vs. European normalcy around bodies.
  • Amelie’s reflection – Loves the 60s/70s aesthetic, golden lighting, philosophical love talks (no forced “I love you”s), and real-world tie to exhausting Valentine’s days with butter chicken and relaxation turning intense.
  • WTF moment – That random ear-bleeding scare jumps Amelie hard; no monsters, just raw, realistic horror that makes you worry for the characters.

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Happy Valentine’s Day, you beautiful weirdos—go watch Honey Bunch and question everything about love. Toodles!



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Introduction to Valentine's Special

00:00:07
Jo
Happy Valentine's Day, everyone. Today we're back in a special edition that we record and put out the same day because Joe's loser. So welcome to the show, Streaming Demons, myself, Joe, and my co-host, Amelie. Say hello.
00:00:21
Jo
Hello.

Discussing 'Honey Bunch' - An Experimental Thriller

00:00:23
Jo
Today's show is Honey Bunch. If you caught my interview with Madeline and Dusty, you know I love the Honey Bunches and Oats. And we're going to talk about today.
00:00:33
Jo
You watched it yesterday, right?
00:00:35
amelie
Correct, I watched it yesterday.
00:00:37
Jo
Awesome. I had a bit of ago. And if you want to watch it with us or watch it later, it is on Shudder right now. Shudder in the United States. And I guess Canada. So, Honey Munch. I'm going to read off the IMDb.
00:00:51
Jo
When Diana wakes up from a coma of memory loss, she and her husband seek experimental treatments at a remote facility. Sounds like Valentine's Day already. As procedures intensify, their marriage is put to the test and Diana begins to question her husband's true motives.
00:01:07
Jo
Starring Grace Golowicki, Ben Petrie, and Jason Isaacs. Which, ah honestly, I kind of like to all the ro i like the cast all around. I do.
00:01:19
Jo
And so, what was your impression going into it?

Initial Impressions and Film's Atmosphere

00:01:25
amelie
Okay, I really like the landscape. I would say for the first 15 minutes, I really like the landscape, the detail of the little manoirs where they go. I really liked the way it was filmed. It was like 60s, 70s vibes.
00:01:40
amelie
I really liked that. It was a little bit slow at the beginning, but past, I would say, 15, 20 minutes, boom, the action starts and you get caught by the story.
00:01:51
amelie
And I like it.
00:01:52
Jo
I agree. I agree. though After I actually watched Honey, this isn't a lie. I actually did watch Honey Bunch instead of the Super Bowl. So I was us watching on Super Bowl Sunday because I couldn't watch me lose any more money than i already did on that fucking game.
00:02:08
Jo
But the Friday before, Joe Bob Briggs, the last driver Joe Bob Briggs, had a Had a bit of a slow burn for the last movie. It was slow.
00:02:21
Jo
That last movie was ass. Just pure fucking ass. Slow burn, slow burn. Nothing ever a fucking happens in the movie. This movie started out slow. was like, ah, fuck.
00:02:33
Jo
I mean, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt of being a slow burn. You know, but I just got burnt on one a couple days before. You know, I'm like,
00:02:42
Jo
But yeah, once act one, and and the acts are nicely structured, by the way, you can you can tell act one, two, two, two, B, and three, right? You get so immersed in the movie that it's like, okay, that it started out slow, but on purpose.
00:03:01
Jo
It doesn't finish slow.
00:03:02
amelie
Yeah.
00:03:02
Jo
It doesn't go in middle slow. It just starts out slow on purpose, which I enjoyed.
00:03:05
amelie
Yeah.
00:03:06
Jo
i enjoyed the storytelling of it, right?
00:03:09
amelie
It's
00:03:10
Jo
So you had that and it's one of those movies where it's beautifully shot.

Nudity in Film - Cultural Comparisons

00:03:16
amelie
true.
00:03:16
Jo
Like the setting is amazing and um i'm I'm smiling because i I want to talk about one of these.
00:03:26
Jo
I want to talk about a scene that has nudity in it. Spoiler alert, there's nudity in this in this movie. But I don't know how to do it about spoiling. going to it very vague.
00:03:40
Jo
Omelie, have you seen the new Games of Thrones, the Night of the Realms, or Night of the Hidden Gardens?
00:03:45
amelie
Yes.
00:03:46
Jo
Okay. Are you caught up?
00:03:47
amelie
Yes. Yeah.
00:03:48
Jo
i Have you what? Okay, good. So if if a new anyone's not seen Game of Thrones, a new one, shut your ears right now. But I made a joke because one of them starts out with a guy, the old dude with his dick.
00:04:01
Jo
I'm like, can you imagine the casting call? Like, all right, we want a guy like 70, 80 years old. like ah bigger than Tommy Lee.
00:04:14
Jo
He's going to die off in the movie like, you know, ah two seconds. You know, like he has to be naked through the most of his screen time. He has to be naked, by the way. So I'm like, what? I can't imagine getting a casting call like that. I'm like, oh, yeah. What does that look like? He's like, OK, drop your pants roll. OK, it's more like Mick Mars. You know, Mick Mars is bigger.
00:04:32
Jo
So you have a moment in this movie where this guy's just a buck ass naked but running around. But if it fits the movie. I'm not saying they did it on purpose. Well, you know, if it it fits the plot. But I'm like, what the fuck's the casting call for this?
00:04:45
Jo
like wanted some dude from you know some guy 5'8 must be completely okay with just being butt-ass naked through his entire fucking film row.
00:04:57
Jo
Or was am I just like making this too much of an American-centric prudeness of it?
00:05:01
amelie
Yeah, it's American because when ah when you mentioned the nudity, I'm like, what nudity? um
00:05:07
Jo
You didn't see the fucking nudity? You see the guy's dick.
00:05:09
amelie
that
00:05:10
Jo
That's not nudity for you?
00:05:11
amelie
And that that's typical American, like, ooh, I don't like that with Americans. We are going to have a sensual sex scene with a man and a woman. They have sex, they have orgasm and stuff. And then the same scene is like the lady stood up and she has a bra.
00:05:29
amelie
I'm like, no, I'm sorry. When I thought I don't have my bra, I'm naked. I go to the shower or to the toilet.
00:05:33
Jo
I do I have one on when I fuck oh i thought
00:05:34
amelie
You know I mean? Like... It's very American. Like, oh, I see a dick. Of course you see a dick. The guy is naked. You see what I mean?
00:05:43
Jo
so you never had no let's back up to something important you never had sex with your fucking clothes on your bra on like never
00:05:49
amelie
No. When you go to the bed, no.
00:05:51
Jo
you You've never had sex where you were always butt-ass naked having sex.
00:05:52
amelie
You take them off and you go.
00:05:57
amelie
In a bed.
00:05:58
Jo
Always. You're always in a bed, first of all.
00:05:59
amelie
in a bed when you when you watch the movies they undress they take off everything they're naked and then came
00:06:06
Jo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm asking you. I'm asking you. i don't care I've seen a movie before. I'm asking you. So you only have sex in bed? I didn't bring this up. You did.
00:06:14
amelie
no it's not that it's when you go to bed and you're naked you don't add your breath the next day after having sex with a person you're naked you don't care you stand up you grab your bra and you see what i mean
00:06:27
Jo
ah ah ah trust me if i went to bed with anyone naked they'd be holy shit like that'll be a like science fiction horror show for me like ah
00:06:39
amelie
For what?
00:06:40
Jo
let's poke some at them for what i'm like 50 motherfucker that's for what but uh yeah i don't look good i don't look good clothes or naked i just like I don't know, man.
00:06:52
Jo
Anyways, so i maybe like it well maybe it is an American thing. Maybe it is an American thing. Who knows?
00:06:57
amelie
it's a memory of a thing because We, Europeans, are well known to make movies where, oh you have a naked man, yes it's a naked man, so what? you know It's not filled with a sense of sexuality, it's just a man with a penis.
00:07:12
amelie
Point. It's like for example, um You can film a woman going to the mammography, you're going to see breast, yes, but why there is a breast because she's going for mammography.
00:07:24
amelie
Or a mother giving the breast to her baby, oh, breast, okay, yeah, but she gives the breast to the baby. There is a way to film it, there is a way of color, etc., etc
00:07:31
Jo
Okay.
00:07:35
amelie
And it's really interesting. like For example, there is a lot of documentary made of the nudity through movie. For example, there is a difference between the nudity in Game of Thrones and the nudity in a French movie where the man is standing it up naked in the nature, for example, in a nudist campsite. like You can see the different way to interpret nudity.
00:07:57
Jo
um okay
00:07:57
amelie
like no There is a lot of nudity, but it's normal.
00:08:00
Jo
No, it's fine. I get it.
00:08:00
amelie
like it's
00:08:01
Jo
I just didn't eat anything fucking today. It's all good. ah No, so I get it. I take

Themes of Identity and Relationships

00:08:05
Jo
the point. All right. So in this movie, which is Honey Bunch, and you can watch Honey Bunch on Shudder, and you probably should. It's a spoiler. on My own review is is decent.
00:08:16
Jo
It is decent. It really does go home on a lot of... second or a second goes What does IMDb list it is? I would say it's more of a psychological drama...
00:08:28
Jo
And then i think, yeah, they do comedy, fantasy, horror, sci-fi, thriller. I can see the thriller part of it. I can see the sci-fi. I can see all this. but if There's comedic moments. There's horrific moments.
00:08:41
Jo
There's thrilling moments. and And it is without any type of, you know, a procedure and test advice. Like we'll just say it' it's not within current realm of medical science. So that's why it's science fiction moments of it, right? That's the premise of it.
00:08:57
Jo
And it really deals with, i don't want to, but me really trying to do this, did this in the interview as well, trying not to spoil anything. It really deals with the question of who people are.
00:09:09
Jo
Like, who are you? What makes a person a person? What makes a person a person? You're having a coma with a memory loss. So what makes a person a person? Is it their live experiences? What they currently remember? Is it something else? Like, was it those, like the theoretical soul or whatnot? Like, what makes a person a person?
00:09:27
Jo
Did you like the relationships between the husband and wife?
00:09:33
amelie
That's a good question.
00:09:35
Jo
I asked shit.
00:09:38
amelie
When you look at the flashback, yes. When they have conversation and everything is fine, yes. I like the way they talk to each other, they're very intellectual. They're not stupid. They're people who have an education.
00:09:53
Jo
Yeah.
00:09:54
amelie
The story is set up in the 60s, I guess, 70s. And there are people who have a certain education and they chat with each other. They love each other. They chat with each other. And they're married. They're a couple, couple. not just boyfriend, girlfriends. They're married, et cetera. They don't have kids, but they are a young couple married.
00:10:13
amelie
And I really like the way they talk about getting old and the philosophy of being in love. ro so When I say je t'aime to you, you need to say je t'aime back, et cetera.
00:10:24
Jo
I know.
00:10:24
amelie
What it means. I love you, et cetera.
00:10:25
Jo
Yeah.
00:10:27
amelie
And yes, you're right. look There is a scene I really like when he's like, I love you. And she's talking, he's like, hey wait, wait, wait, can you say I love you back?
00:10:37
amelie
And she's like, yeah, but I don't want to say I love you if I don't don't feel to say I love you. Like with Marianne, what do you mean by I need to say I love you? I'm not going to say I love you every day. Because if I say i love you every day, it's like bonjour, bonjour, bonjour. It's boring. It's like I don't want you to lie. I want you to say to me I love you when you really feel the love.
00:10:57
amelie
And I really like the fact she's saying, hey, I'm married to you. I'm with you. We just have sex. like at sex What do you want more? What do you want more? What's love, you know? And that's really interesting with this movie is I watched it yesterday, today was Valentine's Day, and I had a very long day.
00:11:17
amelie
Children were noisy, husband was annoying, and I decided to order myself my butter chicken. I watched the movie, I was eating the butter chicken and the movie is very relaxing at the beginning.
00:11:32
amelie
Like the lights are very, very golden, you know, with fire and they're in a beautiful little castle.
00:11:37
Jo
Yeah.
00:11:41
amelie
There is no music whatsoever. They have a dinner, as we said in French, ontetate one to one. And they have the dinner proposed according to their diet.
00:11:53
amelie
So this is your plate. It's according to your diet and your medication and what you need to follow. And I'm like, wow, that's great. Like, I would love to go on a date in a restaurant when you go you do to you go to a hotel for a weekend getaway with a person you love, and they prepare to use the food you want according to your diet and your disease.
00:12:09
Jo
Yeah.
00:12:15
amelie
I was like, ah, would be sensational. So was eating, et cetera. And they have a conversation, and she's sick, and da-da-di, and da-da-da. and it's very slow and after 20 minutes of of movie it starts to accelerate you can you can meet another
00:12:31
Jo
Yeah.

Building Suspense and Character Chemistry

00:12:32
amelie
set of people there is a pain the physical pain of doing exercise she needs to take her medication she have radio etc etc there is a medical you have the story of more character etc etc there is more and more and more and more
00:12:32
Jo
Back to yourself.
00:12:48
amelie
it's ah the color change, the scene are faster, and you jump, like you see things, i jump, there is a scene, I don't know if we can talk about it, I i really jump, I...
00:12:58
Jo
I think, let me ask if you texted me what you're jumped at. Is it when the person has bleeding from the ear?
00:13:06
amelie
Yes.
00:13:07
Jo
Yeah, you can talk about just the randomness of someone bleeding from ear because that's not spoiler. Like, oh my God, the bleeding from the ear scene.
00:13:12
amelie
yeah it's a senior it's really positive it's really great the exercise everything is great and there is nothing how can i say it's not scary like the scary monster who jumped out ah of your bed or there is no secular whatsoever guys it's really the it's real and i and i got scared and i grabbed my ears and i was like oh no no no no no no no no no you know what i mean like it's so yeah
00:13:13
Jo
It's, you know.
00:13:16
Jo
Yeah.
00:13:27
Jo
Yeah, that's what's funny why you jumped.
00:13:39
Jo
I get worried for the character. So you get worried for the character then.
00:13:42
amelie
yeah yeah yeah but i don't know the ears like imagine bleeding from the ears like that's yeah yeah but yeah
00:13:43
Jo
Okay, that's what the jump was. do
00:13:50
Jo
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can imagine that.
00:13:56
amelie
Yeah, you see what I mean? like And what's interesting with this movie is the storyline is interesting, the conversation between actors are very interesting, very entertaining. It's not just a, oh, it's a beautiful day today. oh ho No, they really have a ah talk.
00:14:13
amelie
And I like, how can I say, the chemistry between the two actors because they love each other, but at the same time, you're like, Do they like each other? Like, is it not a little bit too, too much annoying, etc.
00:14:26
amelie
And more and more you go through the movie, more and more you get pieces just like the main character.
00:14:32
Jo
of their past life yeah
00:14:32
amelie
And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:14:36
Jo
yeah I liked how they did it with Grace Golwicki and Ben Petrie. Pertrie. No, that's just Petrie. Wow. Sorry, man. i was thinking of John Pertrie. I really like how they do that. And even there's parallels. there A lot of them are in pairs.
00:14:52
Jo
Like Diane and Homer in pairs. And then, yeah, have Joseph, who's played by Jason Isaac, and his ah daughter are kind of, a account I think that's his daughter.
00:15:04
Jo
I might but may have made a whole fucking assumption on that one are in pairs. And then you you have like, don't want to be fair. you know, all these people are at pair, pair, pair, Josephina. You kidding me? Josephina, Joseph, Jesus Christ. i Yeah, if all these pairs,
00:15:20
Jo
put in there and they work together as their own unit, but they also work together as pairs that will spread out with each other and interact, not just like you're saying, not a how's your day type thing, but they start giving plot points just in their talk.
00:15:39
Jo
And you you as like the fly in the wall, like you're really interested in those plot points. Like, okay, this motherfucker, this motherfucker dirty, man.
00:15:43
amelie
Yeah.
00:15:45
Jo
It's dirty. I want to see this but bed. And Ben is... ah Sorry, Homer, who's played by Ben. Like, he he is not likable.
00:15:56
Jo
I mean, not always likable. <unk> I'll correct myself.
00:15:59
amelie
Yeah.
00:16:00
Jo
There's moments of likability.
00:16:01
amelie
is in love.
00:16:02
Jo
Yeah.
00:16:02
amelie
He is in love, but sometimes he's super weird. Super, super weird.
00:16:07
Jo
Yeah.
00:16:08
amelie
Like, for example, my favorite couple, I'm going to be honest, nest it's the father-daughter. I like their energy. i like the fact he's friends with his daughter. i like how he tried to help us. Like, go girl, go, vaze go, you can do it and everything. Do your exercise. I really love you. i'm very proud of you. They have a good energy.
00:16:28
amelie
Him, you can see, is in love with her He wants the best for her, but something fishy.
00:16:35
Jo
Him being Homer, not being Joseph. He's talking about the husband and wife. nothing dog yeah yeah
00:16:40
amelie
Yeah, yeah, Omer.
00:16:40
Jo
I agree. I agree. and And that's a great dynamic. That's what I'm saying. One's parallel to each other. And with, again, we've all spoiling. This is one of those things you really have to walk around or talk around a little bit of a minefield here because you don't want to spoil it. It's it's a good movie.

Praise for Casting and Direction

00:16:56
Jo
It's like the sound.
00:16:57
Jo
Watch this. The sound's great. The casting is fantastic. The acting is amazing. The directing and writing, I mean... is written and directed by the same people. And if you look at my interview, and you should look at my interview, motherfuckers, you're going to see how well they just work together, even on interviews.
00:17:15
Jo
You know, Madeline and Dusty work really, ridiculously well as writers, obviously, boom. And as directors, obviously, boom. And I'm so glad they made this movie because it made my Super Bowl sundae a hell a lot fucking better.
00:17:29
Jo
And it's something we can talk about This is absolutely, is this a date movie? Is this a date movie? Honey Punch?
00:17:35
amelie
italy Definitely,
00:17:36
Jo
Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. It's a good Valentine's Day movie. I think Shudder kind of listed it and yesterday, Friday the 13th. And I believe it's a great Valentine's. If you're into horror or even psychological, this is something, God, not to sound like an Alita's dick right now.
00:17:54
Jo
This is something, if your friend likes those Oscar movies that only two frequent people in the goddamn world watch, you know who you are. This is something you can watch with your friend, Honey Bunch, because it's going to hit that fucking deep intellectual vibe, right? But it's also entertaining because it's well done.
00:18:12
Jo
And it's not pretentious little fuck twaddles, right? So you hit the vibe like, oh, this is a real horror movie too. Cool. So a Honey Bunch, man, it's only an hour and 53 minutes. It's under two hours.
00:18:23
Jo
And like, it's a slow burn that builds and kabooms. Properly so. Would you, I know this is on Shudder right now, streaming servers. Would you want have have seen this in the theater?
00:18:37
amelie
Yeah, definitely.
00:18:38
Jo
Me too. Me too. I would want to see this in the theater for ah a mirrored number of scenes. Some the locations are beautiful. And it starts, it's not spoiler, because I think it starts off with some water ah background.
00:18:53
Jo
And all that just lends itself to, you know, this bad big screen, man. It'd be nice. It's a nice movie. I would not be, if I pay my money to get in this for two hours, I would not be disappointed.
00:19:06
amelie
No, because it's beautiful and I really like the originality of the way they film everything, like 60s, 70s. The landscape is breathtaking. And I would like to add, there is a French woman or a Francophone who is playing and she's French.
00:19:23
amelie
I was very surprised. She speaks French like a French.
00:19:27
Jo
Yeah, I think this they're they're Canadian film is ah as a film out of

Conclusion and Valentine's Greetings

00:19:33
Jo
Canada. So i think that French woman might be a good boy.
00:19:33
amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:19:35
Jo
Oh, she might actually a break of one.
00:19:36
amelie
Oh, no, no, no, she... But if she's Québécois, she has a fantastic French accent.
00:19:38
Jo
don't know.
00:19:42
Jo
but i'm I'm just i was just extrapolating based upon where I knew the movie was fucking shot towards, you know. But here we go. Here we go. Here we go. We both say go watch it in a theater.
00:19:55
amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:19:56
Jo
Honestly, you can, it was filmed in Ontario, by yeah. You can absolutely, absolutely stream this on Shudder right now. If you don't have Shudder, put it this way.
00:20:08
Jo
What the fuck else you going to watch on Shudder besides Joe Bob Riggs once a fucking month on a Friday, the first Friday every month? Besides The Last Drive and Joe Bob Riggs. Yeah, jack and shit on Shudder.
00:20:19
Jo
Sorry. I guess Boulay Brothers or some shit right there. Some random shockings stuff. So find the gems. They do appear. We speak their names. And the gem for Shudder right now is Honey Bunch.
00:20:32
Jo
Check it out, man. that's my That's my thing. Check it out today. Today's. Go back in time. Check it out yesterday, too. All right. That's it for us.
00:20:42
Jo
um You know, Joe and Emily, I just want to say happy Valentine's Day to everyone out there. And I don't know, did they even celebrate Valentine's Day in Prague?
00:20:53
amelie
Yes, we do.
00:20:55
Jo
Okay, happy Valentine's Day to you too.
00:20:55
amelie
Oh, yes. In Europe, yeah. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. Valentine's Day is a very important thing in Europe.
00:21:03
Jo
Well then, happy Valentine's Day at to you too, motherfuckers. All right. Love on ya. Bye, everyone. Toodles.
00:21:10
amelie
Bye.