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You Don’t Have to Do It All: Delegation Strategies and Support Systems for Working Moms - with Ashley Chang (part 2) image

You Don’t Have to Do It All: Delegation Strategies and Support Systems for Working Moms - with Ashley Chang (part 2)

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In Part 2 of Leanna’s conversation with Ashley Chang, CEO of Sundays, Ashley shares how she channeled what she learned about women in the workplace into action by founding Sundays, a company designed to meet the needs of high achieving moms. For executive moms considering what’s next, whether a new role, a new rhythm, or a bigger leap, this conversation is full of practical wisdom. Ashley shares how motherhood pushed her to make more deliberate decisions about her time, her values, and the kind of support she wanted to create through Sundays. For working moms used to running on autopilot, Ashley’s story offers the powerful reminder that alignment and ambition don’t have to be at odds. This episode invites you to pause, reflect on your priorities, and make intentional choices that align your time with what matters most.

Learn more about Sundays and their mission to accelerate parents in their careers, while creating more quality family time, by following on LinkedIn and Instagram.

To hear more about Ashley’s inspiring journey and the leadership lessons that shaped her, go back and listen to Part 1.

Full transcript available here.

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Introduction to the Podcast

00:00:04
Speaker
Welcome to the Executive Coach for Moms podcast, where we support women who are attempting to find balance and joy while simultaneously leading people at work and at home.
00:00:15
Speaker
I'm your host, Leanna Lasky-McGrath, former tech exec turned full-time mom, recovering perfectionist and workaholic, and certified executive coach.
00:00:27
Speaker
Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for joining me today.

Guest Introduction: Ashley Chang

00:00:31
Speaker
i have part two of my conversation with Ashley Chang, CEO of Sundays, and she is going to be talking more about outsourcing, delegation, and how we can do this whole working parenthood thing.
00:00:49
Speaker
I can't wait to hear her tips and

Ashley’s Journey as a New Mom

00:00:51
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tricks. If you weren't able to tune in last week, go back and listen to last week's episode where we heard more about Ashley's story, her personal journey. She's just transitioned to being a new mom. She's got an almost four-month-old at home. And so hope you'll go and listen to that.

Challenges of Delegation for High Achievers

00:01:09
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But welcome back, Ashley.
00:01:10
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Thank you. I'm super excited to continue talking. Yeah, likewise. So when we left off last week, we started talking about the idea of delegation and thinking about where am i most needed?
00:01:25
Speaker
And where can I maybe outsource or share the load with somebody else?

Origin and Mission of Sundays

00:01:31
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And I think especially for high achievers, that can be really hard to do because we think we need to do everything and people don't do things my way or up to my standard.
00:01:42
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And so I'd just love to hear your thoughts on this and what you've learned and heard about in your conversations with parents. Yes. That is like the thing that makes it so hard to be a working parent. I started Sundays just two years before started having my own baby, but just by researching as much as I could with parents, I talked to, I think like 300 parents in the first couple of months of building Sundays. And at first I was like, oh I'm going to build an app because that's going solve it for everyone. Like everybody just needs a new system.
00:02:14
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But the more people I talk to, the more I realize that there just isn't actually enough time in the day for all of the things that parents need to handle. And we call the company Sundays because a lot of the parents I talked to, they had two working parents at home and they're like, well, I'm working all day. And then i try to be present with my

Setting Up Recurring Systems to Reduce Stress

00:02:30
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kids at night. And then we have this long family to-do list that we end up doing on Sundays. And so our dream is that people get that time back to have quality time with their family or just to relax on their own, which I know is really rare for parents also.
00:02:44
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And so we started from that mindset. And then we also have our team who are parents themselves, and they're the ones doing the support. So they're very cognizant of what does it take to run a family?
00:02:54
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What are the systems that you might have in place? And so now how I think about it is that There are different recurring systems that happen that you can really set yourself up for success by getting some of those in place. And and that's where I've really been focusing my family delegation time in the last last few weeks. And then there's also just like one-off things that come up where you having like a trusted person who can dive in for you and understands where your family is coming from can also be really helpful.
00:03:21
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Yeah. Give me some examples of like, what are the recurring things that you see? Yes, we call it, I kind of break it down into a couple buckets. We call it life maintenance stuff. So that's like making sure everyone went to the dentist this year, making sure car oil got changed, things like that, where when you don't have a system for it, you have to just remember to do it every six months. And so figuring out, making sure that you have like those reminders in place and ideally someone who can actually get that booked for you or maybe an online system or something like that.
00:03:50
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And then we also see things that happen on a more fruitful basis, like meal planning. And then on a longer term basis, I think what's really interesting for families is that we're all experiencing these like recurring family things over and over again.

Moms in Leadership: Driving Change

00:04:04
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Like it was just 4th of July or every summer you do summer camp planning or in the fall you get Halloween costumes and They are recurring events that you could approach the same way every time. But for a lot of families that we work with, they're so busy in the day to day that they don't have time to take their head out, and to poke their head up and think about like, okay, what's coming up in six weeks that like I could just do something quick for now and make it be more proactively prepared instead of having that last minute stress that comes with it.
00:04:33
Speaker
Interesting. So tell me more about Sundays. What is your mission? Tell me all about it. Yeah, we're practicing a potential new mission, but a our mission right now is to make it possible to have both a meaningful career and the family that you want. And our new potential mission that we're thinking about is erase the motherhood penalty, meaning like that it's possible to have the career that you want, that you're not dropping out of the workforce, that you're maintaining salary earnings that you would have you didn't

Workplace Challenges for Moms

00:05:01
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have kids. So but experimenting with that phrasing instead, but really the same general concept behind it.
00:05:06
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And then what we really would love is to get more moms into leadership positions, whether that's executive roles at companies or starting their own companies and helping them be successful there. Because we think having moms in those positions of influence and and representation is really how we can make more societal change and create a better working environment that's more flexible and supportive for moms.
00:05:29
Speaker
I love that. We share that mission for sure, because I think that I've always wanted more women in leadership roles. And now being a mom and recognizing all of the unique strengths that we learned from motherhood, i think also having...
00:05:47
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moms in leadership roles is so important as well because, you know, I consult with different companies and i was talking to this startup one time that it was all men and one woman on their executive team.
00:05:59
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And they had just never really like considered the challenges that a mom has like worked a full day before she even comes to work, you know, getting the kids ready and out the door and getting herself ready and making breakfast for everybody and doing a workout or whatever, you know, all the things that you need to do before the workday even begins.
00:06:20
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But I think that whenever there are women in those positions, moms in those positions, even more moms in those positions where they can like talk about it, because I think whenever there's only one or two in the room, a lot of times it's like, oh, I have to like kind of compartmentalize and hide that part of me from all of these men, because it's kind of like their playground.
00:06:42
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But then whenever it's, you know, we have more seats at the table, so to say, then it's like, those are the conversations that we're having before the meeting starts. And then we start, you know, chatting with each other and the guys

Effective Time Management Systems

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start to hear that. And once everybody just kind of understands it and,
00:07:01
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It's more human. It's more real. Then it's a lot easier to, i think, like you said, make changes within organizations and make organizations more flexible and more human-trendly.
00:07:14
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Yeah. And I think even just having like one more person makes a huge difference in that. situation when you're not a only mom or the only women there. So one person at a time. is We take a very human ah first approach to everything we do, but we always celebrate even when we can get like one more mom on a leadership team or support them and in feeling like they can push for that.
00:07:35
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Yeah. So how do you do that? Like, what do you do that creates more moms in leadership positions? Following up on kind of the the types of tasks that we do, we really want to be partners with the families that we work with. And so one of our favorite things that we do is to do what we call like a time and energy audit. I don't know if you've done this with your clients, but run through like what is their typical day today? What's on their to-do list that they didn't get to? And then talk about like what's actually important to them, what needs to happen for either their family or their career. And then also
00:08:07
Speaker
how much energy do do they get from it? And then we try to sort those out and find like, what are things that are really important, but they don't give you energy or they're not a great

Advice on Delegation: Trust and Feedback

00:08:15
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use of your time. So helping clients try to identify what is that best use of their time where they can really drive energy from it and help them be getting more of that time back by taking things off their plate. So we do a lot of the family kind of recurring tasks that I mentioned. We also will do one-off projects. And then we also get integrated on the business side too. So for a lot of the people we work with, if they've started their own business, probably similar to you, it's one long to-do list that is like work thing, family thing, work thing, family thing. And so we try to take kind of the end of your to-do list away essentially. So you can focus on what are those like one or two top priorities where your brain is really special and we can give you that power and time back.
00:08:58
Speaker
Yeah. So it's basically you're providing an executive assistance and or personal assistance for the family as well as the business owner. Yeah. or A lot of clients will work with them just on the family side, but then where we can, we love to will work with business owners and families because we think that that's really ah a place where we want to help push people forward. And we think that having even just like a little bit of support, a lot of times it's like one person who will is on their own and they're doing everything themselves. And so if we can give them time back to focus, they really can accelerate their business. And one thing I've noticed is like when you don't have as many admin tasks on your plate or things that take your energy away, you can actually get a lot more done because you're like enjoying the work that you're doing too.
00:09:44
Speaker
Doing like the high impact work that you actually enjoy. Yeah. yeah And so to kind of what we were talking about earlier, this idea of delegating the people who are able to delegate and even in your own experience, because you also use executive assistants, right? How do you trust them?
00:10:03
Speaker
How do you, how do you i like feel okay? Like, okay, it's okay for them to do this work. And it's okay for me not to do this work.

Role of Executive Assistants in Productivity

00:10:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we were just talking, i was telling you earlier that this is my first day having a nanny watch our baby. And so it's really interesting on the personal side to figure out like how to build trust. And so i think there is some things I go into it of just like understanding who that person is, making sure you're building like a good relationship with them and checking like references, things like that, to make sure that like you feel good about the person that you're starting to work with. At Sundays, we always have clients do like chemistry calls with their EA to make sure that we do a lot to try to find the right match for them right up front. But we think that like nothing can really replace talking to that person and making sure that you click with them well. So we'll do that. And then once you decide like you want to actually get started, i think there is a lot of trust building. So I think it's it is continuing to build like that personal relationship with
00:11:01
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as well as as actually building out like what do you want to get done. lot of people come to us and they're like, I'm so busy, but I don't actually know what I want to delegate yet. So going through some of those exercises to understand what are your top priorities and what are things you can hand off.
00:11:16
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And then I think starting slow and making sure that you have opportunity to give feedback. So I love to start with like something small and then make sure that there's like a place to do a check-in and say, walk me through where you are Like, how did you think about doing this? And making sure we're kind of aligned on how we think about things so that I can start to delegate more and more things. And then also just giving really frequent feedback and specific feedback.
00:11:41
Speaker
We have a lot of clients who are kind of afraid to give feedback. And so like our team will do something for them and they'll think they did a great job, but the client will be like, this like Missed the mark for me for a certain reasons, and I'll just like do it myself. But if you actually want to build a relationship with this person, you need to tell them what they did that could have been done better to make something actually useful for you. So I think that feedback back cycle and both sides being open to giving and receiving feedback is really, really important for both building trust, but also building something that's going to work for you long-term and it's actually giving you leverage.
00:12:13
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. It's really making me think of like managing a team and everyone listening to this is likely doing. And also thinking about that a lot of times,
00:12:25
Speaker
People will say like, well I'm too busy for coaching. And I say, well, that means you need coaching. like that If you think you have enough time for coaching, you probably don't need coaching. But if you have too much on your plate and you feel like you know you're just drowning, then that's where coaching can help. And it sounds like similarly...
00:12:44
Speaker
That's probably where an EA can help. Like it feels like, oh man, I'm too busy to even think about what could I delegate and yeah how would I do this and then training this person. and that's how you know you need someone.
00:12:56
Speaker
Yeah, totally. like And it's really exponential because it's like every, so every time, like for example, LinkedIn's our main marketing channel. So like i do a lot on LinkedIn and I still write all of my posts myself, but If I'm doing that myself every day, that means I'm spending like 45 minutes a day doing LinkedIn things. And if I can get someone else do that, that's 45 minutes times, don't know, don't actually post every single day, but like 360 days or something like that. And so the time that you invest up front might only be like, maybe it would take me four hours or even 10 hours, I think, onboard someone else to do some of those tasks. But I would actually get that time back within the first two weeks of someone doing it for me. So
00:13:38
Speaker
I think you're right, like being able to pause and take that step back and be like, okay, why am I so busy? And what can I do to fit change that? And then think also when you're so busy, you're not necessarily able to do the most impactful things.

Personalized Family Management Approaches

00:13:51
Speaker
At least that's the case for me when I'm so busy, when I'm like my busiest, I'm like, okay, did this, did this. It's just like a checkbox. It's not being really thoughtful about my business and how can I grow it or how can I make my family time more valuable or things like that.
00:14:05
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. So you said you have had all these conversations with parents. So I'm curious, what were some of your biggest takeaways? You know, one of them that you said was that it's hard. It's hard for everybody, which I think everyone who's listening who's a parent would agree.
00:14:21
Speaker
But what else? Like what other takeaways did you have that kind of stood out to you? Yeah, I think another big thing is that And the reason that we decided to go this human approach for Sundays is like every family is a little bit different. Like I spent my early career building products for people and trying to figure out like what's standard among 80% of people that we can build for.
00:14:41
Speaker
And families do have that, but they also have like different things that are very particular about their family that are really important to them. And so... I think learning just like how personal a family is and how you want the person who's helping your family to like really know your family. And it's not like, it's not just like, oh, I have a six-year-old and a five-year-old. It's like, I have six-year-old who loves soccer and that's the most important thing, but he hates broccoli. And then I have a five-year-old who is like very afraid of of starting school this year and like just understanding like who are people as people. It's really important to building anything for families. Yeah.
00:15:16
Speaker
is something that that was a big takeaway for me. And so that's why we're so focused on the human that goes into everything that we do. And then, yeah, also just like building building the systems for things that you don't want to be thinking about so that you actually can release some of that mental work. yeah And thinking about ownership too, because A lot of times people will approach delegation as like handing things off just like do the actual task, but they've done all of the pre-thinking about it. I don't know if you, I'm sure you've heard of Fair Play, but there's kind of the concept of like conceiving, planning, and then actually executing something and figuring out how to best hand off things at that conception phase or in the planning phase and not just at the execution phase so that you're actually releasing the mental work of it, whether that's to your partner or to someone who you're bringing in to help. you with it
00:16:08
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's really interesting because my husband and I, for example, he'll say like, what do you need me to do? And I'm like, I need you to think of what you need to do. i need to not just tell you what needs to happen.
00:16:21
Speaker
and i I think that that is so common for women is like we're planning everything. it's a really heavy load to think about all the things that need to be done and plan everything out.

Balancing Family Responsibilities in Partnerships

00:16:34
Speaker
and And it's so nice to have people to execute, but sometimes we need help with the planning stage too. Yeah, it's super interesting. And I don't know that I have this nailed down. And especially in like this early phase of parenthood, I feel like I want to know everything, even though I'm like, yeah so for example, where my son like might start solids not super soon, but in the next few months, I'm like, okay, so like, how do we start solids? And then I've done a lot of the early research on feeding him and things like that. So it's like, oh, my husband could research how to start solids and like have a plan for it.
00:17:06
Speaker
But then i'm I'm not sure if I'm like ready to let that go, but I still need to know it. So it's interesting to think about like, how do you actually hand things off so that you feel comfortable with the results there? And what's the role of the other person potentially in like educating and bringing other person along with them too?
00:17:22
Speaker
Yeah. i interviewed someone on the show a while back, and this is triggering the memory of it. Anamique Rice was on here and she was talking about how she and her husband are both tech executives.
00:17:34
Speaker
and And she talked about that, like, if you want a 50-50 partner, if you want for both of you to be truly parents... then both of you have to own different things. And so they've broken it out that like one of them, you know, whenever they were babies, like one of them owned sleep and they like became an expert on all things sleep. yeah They were the subject matter expert. yeah And then the other one was all things feeding and eating. And they were the subject matter expert on that, for example, you know, and then kind of as they grow, you know, different things become important.
00:18:05
Speaker
And I thought it was so fascinating because I thought like, I don't think I could not be a subject matter expert on everything. Like, I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to get that up. But I think if you really think about it, if you really want an equal partnership, then that really is a component to that.
00:18:24
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Something I'm thinking a lot about. And it's it's also been interesting for me personally to just see it. In Fair Play, I think Eve Rodsky talks about how like a lot of couples go into parenthood having very equal partnerships and then becomes like this very unequal distribution after babies enter the picture. And we're trying to like actively combat that and see what are the things that we can do to change it. But I also recognize just like ah different, maybe like hormonal responses that we have we've actually like have a baby in our lives. And like, I think there are a lot of different like mother instincts that go into things that my logical mind was like, oh we'll just divide and conquer. and And now I'm like, no, I feel I have feelings about this.

Intentional Choices in Family Time Management

00:19:09
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And I think it's important to honor all of that, you know, and figure out what works best. And like you said, every family is different. But I think to your point, it's like each family needs to operate in the way that works best for them, that it supports all of the members of the family.
00:19:25
Speaker
I think that's one thing that's been really interesting with the families we work with and a big learning is just, I think the happiest families are the ones who are like making intentional choices about how they want to balance family to work or how they want to spend their time.
00:19:38
Speaker
i think that's the big difference that I see between families that are maybe it's really hard, but they're like, happy doing it. And then other families were like, it's really hard and I'm drowning and I i feel like this is unsustainable. So I think finding a way to make those choices just about what's most important to you and how you want to spend your time is really important.
00:19:57
Speaker
Yeah. I think that's a really important distinction, the intentionality, because the thing that makes it even harder is when you're just going on autopilot.
00:20:08
Speaker
It's like you're running on a treadmill and you don't even know where you're going or why you're going that way. And so it feels very purposeless and you're doing all this work and it's hard. But when you make these intentional decisions,
00:20:22
Speaker
I think it's a constant exercise in course correction as well of like, you know, oh, we're going in that direction. That's not the way we want to go. We want to move back here or whatever. But when you are thoughtful and intentional about it, I don't know, you're just more conscious. You're just more there with the experience rather than like the experience happening to you without you having any say in it.
00:20:43
Speaker
Yeah, totally. And i I think that's a big thing that I actually see with a lot of moms who decide to leave corporate jobs and start their own roles is like they've been maybe maybe like following a career trajectory that was kind of defined for them. But then once they have more time constraints and more things that are important in their lives, they're like, okay, how do I actually want to define what success

Regular Task Audits for Efficiency

00:21:05
Speaker
looks like to me? And how could I make this work versus being like, okay, I'm going to be a VP of marketing and then I'm going to do that for five years and I'm going to be a CMO and just opening up a whole bunch of different paths they could take.
00:21:17
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I cannot let you go without you telling us how can we do this better? We know it's hard. and What have you learned through working with families? We talked about the intentionality. I'm just curious, like what would you recommend? What can we do? Yeah.
00:21:34
Speaker
My favorite thing right now is I think doing that like time and energy audit on a regular basis and identifying things that are taking up your time and energy that are not giving you energy.
00:21:46
Speaker
And then figuring out what of those things are recurring and how can you get that off of your plate, whether that's like figuring out an app that's going to work for you or figuring out a person who's going to help. So everything from like meal planning to scheduling a dentist appointment to someone doing your laundry, things like that, that are just like ah you could possibly hand off to someone else.
00:22:07
Speaker
The next thing around that is onboarding people well. So I think I was telling you, I've made this whole like nanny and long apple note of like how we've been doing certain things with our baby, but giving people the context that they need to be successful and then making sure you are giving them that feedback. so that they can do well and you are actually getting the outcomes that you want. Otherwise, it's not worth your time to have someone else do it.
00:22:29
Speaker
And then my favorite thing right now that I'm trying to do is like have people push things to me so that I don't have the mental ownership of like the project management of things that are happening. So I have a person at Sundays who's like helping me with meal planning. And every Monday, she's like, Ashley, here's

Systems to Reduce Mental Burden

00:22:46
Speaker
your meal plan. I need you to like approve by Wednesday or like tell me if I need to change things. And then she sets up a grocery order for me. And that just like not having to constantly remember that I need to do meal planning or I need to go to the grocery store is actually like an enormous lift, even if it's actually only taking her like 20 minutes a week to do it or something like that. But
00:23:08
Speaker
the constant like everyday remembering is a lot. So if you can get people or systems who have that ownership and push things to you, i think that's my current biggest hack too to getting some time back.

Outsourcing to Enhance Family Time

00:23:21
Speaker
Yeah, I love that so much because i do. I think it's like we have this like running mental list. And that's a lot of times what ends up taking us out of the present moment in those precious moments that we have with our kids.
00:23:35
Speaker
And then we're thinking about everything that we need to do. And, you know, something else pops in our head that's trying to steal our attention away from that little human right in front of us. And then we experienced so much mom guilt about it because we feel terrible that we're not spending enough time and then not enough quality time because we're always distracted or, you know, remembering that we need to go and place a grocery order at the last minute or or whatever it is. So I love the idea of not having to project manage everything.
00:24:06
Speaker
And outsourcing that part of it as well. um So where would people go? Let's say that someone wanted to look into bringing an executive assistant on to help with some of these recurring tasks or you know some of the things that you've talked about. Where could they find you? And tell us more about that.
00:24:27
Speaker
Yeah. So our website is withsundays.com, W-I-T-H, and then the word Sundays with an S. And we have our website kind of a breakdown of all the things we do much more in depth and than I was able to go over today. So if people can find out more there, I'm also super active on LinkedIn. So if you look up Ashley Chang Sundays, there's a lot of Ashley Changs out there. So you got to add the Sundays part, but Ashley Chang Sundays on LinkedIn. i am there and I try to share a lot about what I'm learning while that's a new mom and from all of the clients we work with for what works best.
00:24:57
Speaker
I love it. Definitely. i think it's something that everyone can check out. And how do you get started? I know you mentioned kind of an initial call to get to know the family. Is that how we get started or how how would we go about that?
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah. So on our website, the first step is you sign up, you put in a little bit of information about what you're looking for. And then we have, used to be me doing every single call, but now we have another amazing teammate named Bethany who will do an intro call with you and learn about your family and what you're looking for and tell you more about Sundays and in depth of like, how do we get started? What does onboarding look like?
00:25:32
Speaker
What are your goals? And so We use that to figure out like who the best match on our team is. And if you're also looking for business support, we'll go a little bit more in depth about like business goals, expertise that you're looking for.

Building a Community of Knowledgeable Assistants

00:25:45
Speaker
and then, yes, we do that intro call. We use that to do ah matching process. That is pretty fun of ah the amazing EAs, our team, and and who we think will be the best fit. And then we'll share that with you. and then we have the opportunity do that chemistry call, too. So you get to meet the e talk to them, and make sure they seem like a good fit.
00:26:02
Speaker
And then we will get started with onboarding. And that looks a little bit different per a client, depending on where they are in their delegation process of ah working with someone else. Okay, wonderful. And I love also that you are employing moms who are actually the EAs. So if people are interested in working for you in becoming an EA, is this something that they would do part-time or kind of like on their own time? Or how does that work?
00:26:30
Speaker
Yes. Most of our team is part-time, but we do look for at least 20 hours a week because we want to be highly involved with the clients that we're working for. So we need to have that level of responsiveness.
00:26:42
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And then we will always post the roles that we're hiring for on LinkedIn. And then also we have a careers page on our website. So you can look there. we have almost 30 moms on our team now, which is so cool. And i think we also have just like a great culture where it's people are always giving me tips about things i can do better as a parent. So it's fun to see kind of moms from all over the country coming together.
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I love it so much. I love your mission. i love the idea of, you know, supporting women to get more moms into leadership positions and eliminate the mom penalty. So I'm so happy that you have created this. and Thank you.
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for for creating this for for women and moms. And I know it's going to help so many people and good luck to you with your your little one. I'm thinking like, I want you to come back in a year or two and like you report back on how you're like living and breathing this. So like how you been doing been doing it Yeah, everybody keeps asking and I'm like, I'm actively figuring it out as fast as they can but I think it's going to always feel like that. So I will, I would love to to chat again in a little bit and tell you if I've discovered anything new.

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Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Ashley, for being here and sharing all this wonderful information with us. I've really enjoyed our conversation. Thank you so much. This was really fun. All right. Thanks everybody for tuning in and we will see you all next week.
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