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Navigating Working Motherhood: Leadership, Self-Care, and Sustainable Ambition - with Dina Silver Pokedoff (part 2)
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In Part 2 of this inspiring conversation, Leanna continues the heartfelt exchange with senior communications executive, mom, and stepmom, Dina Silver Pokedoff.
Dina shares how she’s learned to navigate the complex realities of career and motherhood, offering an honest, empowering look at what it means to lead with authenticity—both at work and at home. From delegating household tasks to prioritizing health and wellness, Dina opens up about what it takes to stay grounded, resilient, and present for what matters most:
- How to shift from perfectionism to presence, while giving yourself grace along the way
- Why delegating isn’t a weakness, but a leadership skill both at home and in the office
- The importance of prioritizing self-care as a foundation for long-term success and modeling it for your children
- Strategies for managing the mental load and staying focused on high-value tasks
- How setbacks, like a layoff or injury, can be powerful opportunities to reframe goals and priorities
A must-listen for any executive mom seeking sustainable success, clarity, and fulfillment in life through intentional leadership and self-compassion.
If you missed Part 1, start with Episode 104 to hear Dina’s powerful three decade journey of career pivots, fertility challenges, and how she redefined success on her own terms. Then come back for this practical, honest look at how she balances executive leadership, motherhood, and personal well-being with grace and grit.
Full transcript available here.
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Transcript
Introduction
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Welcome to the Executive Coach for Moms podcast, where we support women who are attempting to find balance and joy while simultaneously leading people at work and at home.
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I'm your host, Leanna Lasky-McGrath, former tech exec turned full-time mom, recovering perfectionist and workaholic, and certified executive coach.
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Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for being here today. if you were here last week, you heard the first part of Dina's story. And today we're going to continue the conversation with Dina talking about navigating career and
Career and Motherhood Balance
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motherhood. So if you haven't listened to the first one, go back and listen to it.
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But I'm still going to tell you a little bit about Dina because I know we've got some rebels out there who are probably not going to do that. So Dina Sober-Poktoff is a driven and results-oriented senior brand and communications executive and an empowered female leader in the communications industry.
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Dina is currently Senior Vice President of Communications for Kuna Nagel in the US and Canada, one of the world's leading logistics companies. At Kuna Nagel, Dina is responsible for establishing, driving, and executing the regional communication strategy.
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She's been recognized with Reagan's Top Women in Communications, and PR News Top Women in PR. She is also on the Executive Committee of the Public Relations Society of America's Corporate Communications Section.
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And we heard all about Dina's illustrious career in the last episode. So definitely go back and give that a listen. She's also a mom and a triathlete, and I'm really excited to jump into this conversation. So welcome back, Dina.
00:01:49
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Thanks, Leanna. I'm excited to be back. So excited to have you back. So today we're going to talk more about navigating career and motherhood and how you've done that over the last 30 years. You have two kids, 16 and 11.
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You also have two stepchildren. so i'd love to hear a little bit about... Your approach to finding this balance, juggling act, navigation, whatever we want to call it, of trying to navigate this journey.
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I used to joke around that I had a master's, ah in ah a black belt in juggling. Right. I love that in juggling because it is about the juggle. And, you know, I will say that, you know, there's so much talk out there about, you know, work-life balance. and I don't really think you can really balance.
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You just can't. There are going to be days where, you know, for me, I am completely falling over like, you know, like the teapot. Woo! Going all the way into one side or the other. But I really try to work hard to navigate and try to figure out from my perspective what's most important to me and really try to pick and choose my battles.
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I'll give you an example. So I love that Halloween big day parade. You know, my children both have loved those Halloween parades. I block that on my calendar. It is an appointment and I don't miss it unless there is something super critical that just cannot, like I have to travel someplace for some leadership meeting I would say that I am successful at holding that spot for that Halloween parade 90% of the time, sometimes 85.
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And when I have to miss it, I try to give myself some grace that like, I really have done everything I can to be there for those most important moments, the ones that I and my children are at the are super important to us.
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And the things that are not as important, I try to either give myself grace, allow my husband to take on, i don't have to be the one to take them to every doctor's appointment,
Task Delegation and Prioritization
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right? Like really pick and choose where there's value add for me as a mother, you know, being home for dinner, being there for the dance recitals.
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That's, those are the things that are high priority, high critical factor. And I feel fight my way to not miss those to the best of my ability. But of course, things happen. And if they do, I give myself some grace with it.
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I joke around like some of you may be old enough to remember the commercial from Anjali. Back in the day, it was a perfume and it was a career woman. It was from the It was this commercial where she said, I can bring home the bacon, na-na-na-na-na, fry it up in a pan and never, ever let you forget you're my man.
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you know So the reality is like that vision of a a person I don't know if that's who I aspire to be, but I um will tell you that I think I can, to the best of my ability, try to juggle, navigate, and not completely tip over into one side or the other, give all work and no family or all family and no work. so I've successfully navigated it, but it doesn't mean that there are not pain points day to day.
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Yeah. Well, I think what I hear you saying is, is you're very clear about what's important and you recognize that some things are less important than others. Not that they're not important, but what I think a lot of us do is put everything on the top level importance or don't think about it. So it's just like by default, everything is very important And then it feels too hard to manage all of it because it's too much if we put everything in that high level of importance. So that's one thing that I hear you doing is saying, I'm going to prioritize.
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And the other thing I hear you saying that you're doing is because I think as high achieving women, We want to give everything 100% and we expect 100% perfection of ourselves.
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And so if we go to the Halloween parade every year and then we miss a year, a lot of times we're going to focused on the year that we're missing and feel so much mom guilt and feel terrible about ourselves.
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Because we're looking at that year and what you're saying is actually if I'm there 90% of the time, i'm okay with it. I can give myself some grace. I don't expect 100% myself like really good.
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passing grade from showing up as a mom or showing up at work. So that's kind of what I'm hearing you say. Tell me more about what what you're thinking of saying that. No, I think that you nailed it. I think it is about ah combination of being as clear as you can be about where your priorities are.
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You know, it's a smart person who said, it wasn't me who figured it out on my own. I mean, I got good advice, right? Like, you know, I was kicking myself because I couldn't take my child to the doctor.
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And a friend said to me, like, is that really the high value thing? Like, are you really going to kick yourself for that? Let Mark take the kids to the doctor. Like, unless, you know, like there's some compelling reason that that appointment is super critical and it's a topic that, like, as the mom, I should really be there.
00:07:38
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i try to say, okay, I can let that go. It doesn't, that's not where the high value is. I think, too, you know, kind of a along the same lines of being crystal clear on those things is when you do get help, whether it's from your spouse, partner, family, or you've invested in childcare, whether it's a nanny, au pair, babysitter, is to look at that investment in the same kind of way and say, okay, I'm going invest in the
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childcare provider to make the meal so I can sit down at the table with my child and be there with my child and have a conversation with my child.
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And yes, it's not my cooking. And to be honest, my cooking's not my forte. I'm good. by According to my son, I make delicious food, but that's because he doesn't know any better. I'm joking. He knows better, but to him, it's mommy's cooking. He loves it, but that's not my strength.
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So I'm happy to, where I can, allow somebody else to do that thing so I can be there at the table with my child, put my child to bed, hang out with them in the tub, you know, while they're in the tub or whatever it might be when they're babies, right? And get that that more, to me, the more value-add time together. So, but that does require you to really look at, okay, what are the things that our value add to you. It wasn't super important that I'd be the one to cook. Yeah.
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As long as there was I could eat, I'd be happy. and i could focus in on being with the children. Yeah. I will say also give yourself some grace that sometimes there are times that the children will be on a device and it is not my preference, but if I don't have other childcare,
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and I need to get something done, then I give myself the grace to say, okay, for this period of time, this is something that the children can do to keep themselves occupied so that I can do what I need to do, right? And I have a little sign on my door, open, closed.
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I have a, you know, the, unless it's a true emergency and we have the conversation, what does a true emergency mean Right. So this is, of course, when I'm working for my home office. Right. um Which could be any time. Right. It could be, you know, in the evening after I put them bed or in the morning. It just can depend on a big mish.
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Yeah. What's coming up for me is you mentioned, like you used to stress out about the doctor's appointments, for example. And and I think about when I was working from home with my daughter ah during COVID and i refused to give her a device.
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I didn't want to do that. And then finally I started to look at it as like, okay, like
Evolving Approach to Balance
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if I could show up as a better mom to her, if I could get the things done that I need to, if she's on the device for 30 minutes or an hour or whatever,
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then it's like a cost-benefit analysis. And I feel like we have to constantly be be doing that. But I wonder for you, i think it's like when we start out, we want to do everything perfectly, right? Because that's our nature.
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And over time, it kind of evolves as we go through our parenting journey and trying to juggle career in parenting. So what is it for you that allows you to think 90% is good enough for me or, you know, to to be able to give yourself grace that maybe you couldn't have given yourself in the past or to be able to say, yeah, my husband can take the kids to the doctor's appointment And I'm okay with that.
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I think it was something that evolved over time. I mean, I'll never forget when I came back from that six-month maternity leave, um the sabbatical I took, and a colleague said to me, like, we were looking at, like, the daycare schedule and the time I was going to get.
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And she's like, it's okay. It's enough time. I'm like, enough time? How is that even possible? Like, there's no way it's enough time. And then I lived it. And I experienced it. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm going to build the time. I'm going to structure the time so I get it with my child. And so it is only through the experience of it.
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And everybody's going to have to go through that experience, you know, on their own and on their their own time. It was not an immediate, oh, I'm okay. I got this. It was years and years of of trial and error happening.
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trying something, failing, succeeding, all all the things, right? So and that's how it arrived. I didn't arrive at, oh, I'm going to give myself grace and until... On day one. It was not a day one. It was absolutely not a day one thing.
00:12:20
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um But if I could, someone who's listening, if you can glean that and maybe be a little nugget in your mind okay, What is it going to take for me to give myself some grace on this and not beat myself up and not have mom guilt overtake the dialogue in my head?
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oh somebody else had done this. How did they do it? um What worked for them? Maybe I try this, see how it feels, right? And it may not feel great the first time, right? Because it still sucks.
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Right. Right? I like, it's still like, I want to be like there all the time. Right. Um, so when it, when ah I achieve that 90%, like, okay, I'm still going to have the internal debate feel little badly, but I'm going to try to go to the place of, all right, this is okay.
00:13:09
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Everyone's okay. I'm not getting a hundred percent, but I'm doing pretty darn well here. And everybody's happy and healthy generally. Right. Yes. I love that. And I think one of the things that we touched on just briefly in the last episode is kind of like knowing how to pick and choose when you're 100% mom, when you're 100% at work, when it's 60-40, like what that looks like. And I'm curious how you navigate that and any suggestions or ideas you have for us of, you know, success strategies.
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So just like when you're prioritizing your day-to-day, your job, everybody's coming at you as if what they've got is the most important thing. um And so you have to already in your career and in your day-to-day job, figure out, okay, what's urgent and high value?
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What is urgent but low value, right? There's that quadrant. I can't remember the name of it. Please excuse me. and know what you're talking about. Yeah. High value, priority, high priority. Low value, low priority, and you kind of plot it on the map mentally. Like, okay. And that's how you make your decisions day to day as things are coming into you.
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It's the same thing when it comes to managing the family, right? Like what things are high value and high urgency and what things are not. And it's that constant... really looking at it from as many angles as you possibly can to come to what's going to feel right for you. That's how I do it. i just um My brain doesn't really shut off so great. like yeah i'm ah I'm a thinker. I'm constantly like,
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thinking it through and processing it. And i I know that they talk about the women carrying the more of the mental load. And I do think that that's part of it. I carry a lot of the mental load of making sure I'm thinking it through both from a work perspective and also the family perspective. Yeah. And trying to give some grace to my husband who doesn't think that way.
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It can be challenging. As much differently differently than I do.
Emotional Intelligence and Leadership
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Yes. Well, and I think what you brought up there is how you can take some of the things that you learn at work and apply them to how you manage a company is how you can manage a household, right? We can take things that we learn from work into the household.
00:15:22
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I'm curious, have you found it the opposite way that you learn things through parenthood, through managing household and that you take into the workplace? And if so, what do you take with you?
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Well, I think managing people is you know, one of the most challenging things that I've done in my career and also the one of the most rewarding. Just like with my children, a lot of the times they, you know, the people that i working with or leading want to feel heard, want to feel understood,
00:15:51
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have that deep EQ of understanding. And as a mom, you, you know, you need to really listen for the cues with your children and don't just jump into problem solving mode, which is my first instinct, right? So I have to work my own instincts to like, I don't have to solve every problem for my children.
00:16:12
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Sometimes my daughter just wants to feel heard and understood And I can say the same thing for the people i you know who I've led in my career. They don't want me to solve every problem or to dictate.
00:16:23
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Nobody wants to be micromanaged, right? like don't They don't want me to dictate how something has to be done. Maybe I can share her some empathy like, oh, yeah, that's a challenging one. I can share some examples of how I've tackled it, give you some ideas, and let me know what you decide. You know, like not solve the problem for them, but to allow them to grow and to make mistakes and be safe in making mistakes. It's the same thing at home.
00:16:48
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You're going to try. You're going to make a mistake. You're going to... succeed. you're going to fail. It's going to be a whole mishamash with your children, right? They're going to do some things fantastic and some things where you're like, you know, that was a, lot that was a ah really great lesson to be learned.
00:17:01
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We learned a lot. Let's talk about that. How did that feel? Yeah. Patience is kind of the word that's coming up for me. Yes. It's funny. Cause I personally, as I look at myself, I sometimes feel impatient, but I get from others like, Oh, you're so patient. You know, to be honest, like there are times I'm ready to like, when it comes to being a parent, I'm like not feeling patient at all, at all. I'm ready to lose my mind. I'm ready to explode.
00:17:26
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But, you know, i just keep trying to breathe through it and try to be as patient as I can be. And when i do lose my patience or I snap to give myself that grace, like, okay, sometimes I'm, and also to apologize for it, right? Like, you know, mommy had big feelings. Sorry about that.
00:17:46
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You know I'm trying to teach, you know, we're all trying to work towards managing our emotions here. Mommy sometimes does a great job and I didn't do such a great job. So I'm really sorry. So transparency of where I succeed, whether it's with my children or the people that I work with, like, oh, gosh, I i love that one.
00:18:06
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Like I just snapped at you. Oh, that was bad. not Not my best moment. Please excuse me. No excuse for it. Here's what, you know, I do have some stuff going on, but no excuse. I'm going to do better and keep working at it.
00:18:21
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I do think that there's both lessons to be both shared, whether it's in managing the family, growing the family, teaching our children the values and things that we want as a family.
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and also from a work perspective, you know, treating the people on my team with the same respect that I would want to be treated with. so Yeah. Well, I hear you saying like having that self-awareness and that humility to be able to say, i messed up.
00:18:53
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And just to show your humanness. I think that's so important as a leader. Those are the the leaders that are most effective because people want to follow humans, not robots.
00:19:04
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right They want to see the leaders that they are working with. They work hard and they try hard and sometimes they mess up. And when they do mess up, they take ownership and apologize or repair whatever they need to do.
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And i think similarly setting that example in our homes for our children to teach them to be able to go out and be strong leaders in their schools and communities and eventually.
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good people in society. And yeah there is no manual for motherhood. um And the reality is that you really have to figure out, mean, lots of books, lots of advice. There's probably more than, you know, you can take in but you have to really trust your own gut.
00:19:44
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instincts on some things and um figure out what works for you and your partner. And, or if you're doing it on your own, you know, what, what's working for you. um and I think it's, it's kind of the same thing at work, right?
00:19:59
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um There are lots of guidelines and manuals and values and behaviors that the organization wants, but you have to figure out what works for for you um within that, right? um That's gonna be authentic to who you are because I really truly um believe that the best leaders I've ever worked for are the ones who are authentic and you know are their full true selves
Fitness and Self-Care Commitment
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at work. you know not Not every piece of themselves, but as authentic as you can be in a corporate work environment, right? um And I think that that authenticity
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bringing your full self to the table endears them to helps them feel empathy for you, helps you feel empathy for them. um and um you know, as women, we have a natural EQ and I think we should lean hard on it.
00:20:51
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ah I agree. One of the things that we talked a little bit about is that you're a triathlete, that you love Peloton and me too. And and I'm curious about How you prioritize yourself. Like, how do you do that? Because I think, you know, when you're talking about juggling, you talked about the two things, the work and home, right? And then there's also this other thing that is me, that you know, taking care of myself.
00:21:18
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And I think that so often as working moms, that's the thing that gets thrown to the wayside first, right? That's the thing that we deprioritize. And you had said, you know, in your fertility journey that that was something that, you know, kind of got deprioritized. So by the wayside. Yep. Yeah. So I'm curious now, you know, now you're at a point where that is a priority in your life. So how do you think about that? And how do you go about Making that a priority for you.
00:21:45
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To me, it's like the same thing. If it's important to you you figure it out, right? So the way I look at it philosophically and the way I look at it practically is that I get up early.
00:21:59
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Sometimes earlier than I want to, I had to really retrain my body because the as the workouts got more intense, I needed more time. And so when I have a ah longer workout during the work week, I just get up earlier.
00:22:14
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and don't always succeed. I sometimes will sleep through my alarm. 90%. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to succeed 90% of the time. Exactly. So um I build in the structure so that I'm up before the kids are up so that I'm done my workout so I can be at the breakfast table.
00:22:32
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Now, my son leaves super early. So sometimes I just get to see him more in passing, but he's a teenager. He kind of doesn't care. But I get to sit down at breakfast with my daughter and be there with her 90% of the time, again, not always.
00:22:46
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um Sometimes those swim workouts can be more challenging because they're outside of the house and require more time to get to the gym, do that, blah, blah. So, but um the other piece is that, you know, i find that it energizes me for the day.
00:23:01
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So when I don't get my workout in, i never thought I would say this, but like I'm now one of those people, if I miss my workout, I don't feel quite as good. So I find that it's part of my routine of get the workout in, get it in, get it done.
00:23:15
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If I try to wait till end of the day, something else is going to get in the way. Always, always, always. always I'll either be too tired or something will pop up or this is something else.
00:23:25
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So, but if I get it done early, then I get it done. And then, you know, the other piece to it is also about the modeling that I'm doing for my family, about taking care of myself and my health.
00:23:38
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And when people ask, like, why are you doing this? Like, it's not to be a smaller size. Of course, it's this there's a nice benefit to it. Yeah. blah, blah, blah. But to me, this is really about, I want to be there for my children for the longterm. I'm an older yeah mother, took me longer to have the kids and I'm getting up there. So I want to pay the piper now so that I have the benefits in the longterm so I can, well, first I was saying it to keep up with my babies. Now it's about like being there for the longterm.
00:24:11
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Yes. Right. So like when people ask you your why, like when you're doing these triathlons, because they're not easy, right? I'm like, why you doing this? Well, I'm doing this because I want to be there um for the long term. It's for my long term health.
00:24:24
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And of course, it's a ton of fun. The modeling I'm doing for my children about health, wellness, doing hard things, that you can do hard things.
00:24:35
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You know, I'll keep pulling all the Peloton-isms out, right? I really do believe that it's just become part of how I am as a person.
00:24:47
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And that grit and determination to push through and endure has taught me so many lessons that I use, whether it's talking about managing my family and growing my family and raising my children.
00:25:01
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it is really hard being a parent and um you need to have a reserve of resilience and determination to do it. And you also need that to do triathlons. And you also need it.
00:25:13
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You're going to need all those lessons kind of have that triumvirate of they're all intertwined for me. Yes, I love that. And i would so agree with that. It's kind of like you're building the muscles, like literally and figuratively, to be able to do those hard things at work and at home. And I love that so much. Learning to prioritize oneself. And you know you talked a little bit last time about your health journey and and the importance of that. it is It's so different to think about it in terms of I'm doing this as an investment for my future and my family's future and also for today because I'm going to show up better.
00:25:50
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to everything I do today whenever I've taken care of myself. But I think that that's one thing that one of my coaches says all the time is when you look at your calendar for the week, put yourself in first, that you have to make sure you prioritize yourself.
00:26:04
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And to your point, for me too, I have to do it first thing in the morning or other things will take over. I'll get busy with all the other things and all the other important things I've got going on and and on my plate and on my calendar. And then I won't prioritize myself. So I have to front load it and make sure that I wake up early and I tell myself, tell my family from the get-go, there's an important person here. It's me.
00:26:28
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I've got to take care of me. And you show up as a better person. person, mother, worker, leader, leader, when you take care of yourself, you're able to better take care of others. You know, that oxygen mask, yes you know, analogy, yeah but it's, there is a lot of truth there.
00:26:45
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When you can take care of yourself, you can help take care of others. Like if you're yes not taking care of yourself, how are you ever going to be able to take care of other people? And there's a lot of people relying on you between your family and the people you work with.
00:27:00
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But I will say, you know, I don't want to be Pollyanna about it because there are days that I do feel badly. i like, especially when it comes to like, I'm getting up pretty early during the work week on the weekends when there's, a you know, especially if I've got a big triathlon coming up, like there's a big time commitment for that.
00:27:18
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I try to give myself some grace there too. Okay. It's not going to be forever. This is this part of the season, right? The race is coming up. You know, I've got this long run, this long bike ride or the combination of the two.
00:27:32
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Actually, this year, i in the fall, I was supposed to do 70.3. I broke my foot. So I ended up not being able to do it three weeks before the triathlon. bible Oh no. After all that work.
00:27:44
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I was a really invested all the time. to But this year I've decided to not go for it because I already had it invested so much of that time and I had already sacrificed that time with my family. So this year I'm giving myself grace to not go for the big 70.3 and I'm going for more Olympics and sprints. I had a like a short sprint recently and I killed it. I loved it. I felt great. Maybe next year. We'll see. yeah Giving yourself grace on both sides of the coin, whether it's for your work, your family, your training, all the side.
00:28:19
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Yes. And you know me, I am a huge fan of the sprint. I know. Because it allows me to not have to train too hard. That 70.3, know it would take up more time than Would want to find, but sprints, perfect distance for me. Olympics, maybe someday.
00:28:37
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Olympic is a good, is a good distance too. i mean, right the distinction in training between a sprint and Olympic is not exponential. Yeah. training between an Olympic and a 70.3 or um an Ironman, that is exponential. We're talking hours and hours. So another full-time job.
00:28:54
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Yes. But you know, when you're dedicated to something and you want to achieve it, you have a goal. You make it happen. I wanted to go for that goal. Yes. And talk about disappointing when I wasn't able to achieve it in actuality because I broke my foot doing something stupid, not even related to the training.
00:29:11
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It took me a little bit to come to that, okay, it's going to be okay. You don't have to do 70.3 right away. i kept thinking I'm getting older. am I going to be able to do it? And my coach and I have talked that through like, oh, no, you've got you're fine. right is If you take care of yourself and you're careful and right you don't over-train and you stretch and...
00:29:30
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Right. We can hopefully be doing this into our later years, um which I really hope I can, because I think if I can continue doing this into my later years, maybe I'll show up on the leaderboard. Right. Because I am i'm really slow. Yeah.
00:29:43
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Well, I think also my other motivation is thinking about when I'm 80 or 90, I want to be able to take care of myself and be independent and walk around and not worry about falling and breaking something. You know, it's just like, it's a whole different motivation. Yeah, but even Leanna, even if we end up and something happens that we didn't plan, we can always give ourselves that.
Podcast Conclusion
00:30:05
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Like, okay, I may not be able to do that, but I still can do these things, reframing it.
00:30:13
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As I look at my, my, my aging parents, like, okay, my mom, you know, she broke her back. She can't really do some of the things she used to be able to do, but she could still do these things.
00:30:23
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Chair yoga. It's all about like finding how to reframe it to a place where you feel good. But part of this is I want to be able to be active until not able to be. Yeah, I love it Well, Dina, thank you so, so much for coming here and talking with me today. I've loved our conversation, both parts of it. And I know everyone's going to learn so much from you. So thank you and Thank you for having me. It's so much fun to talk about this stuff and to share. And thank you for your interest.
00:30:52
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I really enjoyed our conversation. yeah likewise. Well, thank you everyone so much for tuning in and hope to see you all next week. Bye-bye.
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