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Old Trafford Redevelopment: Is a Shared Stadium for Man Utd and City Possible?
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Man Utd & Man City to SHARE a Stadium?! 🏟️ Aaron Connolly to Sunderland?! 🤯 Everton FINALLY Taken Over! 💰 Is Eddie Howe’s Time at Newcastle OVER? 🤔
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Fantasy Football Highlights
00:00:14
killianginnity
Hello and welcome to the Not a Pundit podcast. My name is Killian Ginniti and I'm delighted to be joined as ever by the crustaceus Connor Glennon and the not that bad Nathan Byrne. How you doing gentlemen?
00:00:28
Conor Glennon
crustaceans really. um I'm good mate, I'm good. A decent week in fantasy football for once. You know, death taxes in Erling Hallen scoring. So like that kind of rescued my fantasy. How you doing Nate?
Weekend Football Recap
00:00:42
Nate
Yeah, I'm not doing too bad, I was kidding to say, but yeah, now standard week of football, I'd say, the odds, the United draw and then the fiery North London derby, well, yeah, all good for me, how are you feeling?
Aaron Connolly's Sunderland Signing
00:00:59
killianginnity
I'm good, like literally just as we are coming on, Aaron Connolly has just signed for Sunderland, so despite our hopes that he might go to Hamilton, that didn't work out, but delighted to see him on the worse side. um
00:01:14
Conor Glennon
I think it's a great move for you guys, to be honest. that you know ah You know, just before we hopped on, we were we were talking about, I suppose, potentially what his weight structure will be. And I think if it's nicely in your system, it's probably highly highly incentive based and he's got a point to prove it could be great. I don't expect him to stay long if it does work out, but worth a pond.
00:01:33
killianginnity
I think this is his Troy Parrott, Izzy Alkamer, XLCR's chance, yeah yeah, because, yeah, because we
00:01:38
Conor Glennon
Chance. Yeah.
00:01:40
Nate
is it though is he gonna get much game time well what's going on here though this is it i just can't lean into it go away like a couple of weeks ago like it is a bit it's a bit like
00:01:45
Conor Glennon
you'd You'd assume he would. and Not initially, I think. i'd say It'll take a couple of weeks to bet into the system, but...
Connolly's Opportunity at Sunderland
00:01:59
killianginnity
I would wonder how much shy talk that was. I would wonder if he was just home and gone away and somebody's like, oh, is he gonna sign for them? But yeah, there is question marks over his attitude and stuff.
00:02:13
killianginnity
He did not do well at all. He started off well and then it ended not well.
00:02:21
killianginnity
But it's...
00:02:24
Conor Glennon
A one year deal doesn't exactly say we trust you is the one thing though.
00:02:28
killianginnity
no but again it's incentive based like everything in Sunderland is about proving your worth and like our coach is very good at taking players under his wing um we need strikers we have a lot of forwards not a lot lot of strikers so he will get game time him um like the striker he's up against is 19 so he should
00:02:30
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:02:50
killianginnity
by his own standards, take the bull by the horns and take the lead on it and become our main man up front. And if he doesn't, I think he's finished at this level.
00:03:02
Nate
it's very as it's very much make a break from isn't i like
00:03:02
Conor Glennon
Bye.
00:03:04
Conor Glennon
Well, even the manager's comments, I'm just reading them here.
00:03:05
killianginnity
yeah
00:03:07
Conor Glennon
he He's saying Aaron needs an opportunity to reestablish himself and to reset the perception of him as a professional athlete. It wasn't long ago that he was scoring goals in the Premier League and playing for for his national team, but he suffered some setbacks at Sunderland.
00:03:19
Conor Glennon
He'll have an environment, and he'll have the vi the environment and support to perform and an opportunity to showcase his ability. It's an important 17 game period following the next international
00:03:26
Nate
It's very much
Sunderland's Premier League Potential
00:03:29
Conor Glennon
break.
00:03:29
Nate
make a break from it.
00:03:29
Conor Glennon
And we believe Aaron can add value to our squad during that period. That very much sounds like a kid on trial.
00:03:36
killianginnity
Yeah, like it's a glorified trail, but I think that's the best ah contract he could have hoped for.
00:03:43
Conor Glennon
Oh, big time. Absolutely, like, I mean...
00:03:44
killianginnity
Like it's probably the most exciting team in the championship right now. So.
00:03:49
Conor Glennon
Oh, wow. Okay, I will give you that for... for for i Normally, I would smash Sunroon for a statement like that, but the start of the season that you've had, it's hard to disagree.
Sunderland's Squad Depth and Challenges
00:03:59
Nate
Yeah, I was going to take down this just time right here, too, when they miss out on the playoffs, therefore, I miss out on the playoffs.
00:03:59
killianginnity
And it's not, it's not.
00:04:03
killianginnity
but Oh yeah, you can quote me on this. I'll tattoo this. um the The thing thing about something right now is it's not just like doing well, but it's playing well. Like when we're playing bad now, which has been one game, we're doing miles better than we were the second half of last season. and So like are the the floor of our standards has completely been raised. And like um our managers,
00:04:31
killianginnity
two months, three months in the job. And he's already having a massive impact on players and the players already level. Like it's a team that's going in the right direction. And if Connally can't make it here, he's not going to really make it anywhere.
00:04:44
Nate
do does the Sunderland squad have enough to go the whole season, though? Because like
Sunderland's Future Prospects
00:04:51
Nate
at least championship-wise, it's it's very up and down between form and stuff.
00:04:51
killianginnity
Yeah, we have a big squad.
00:04:57
Nate
I'm just talking in terms of when teams can go on big runs.
00:04:58
killianginnity
Mmm.
00:05:01
Nate
One or two losses can literally take you from the edge of playoffs right down to to to mid tables. and like
00:05:10
killianginnity
So that's what happened to us last year. We were fine the first half and then it all went tits up.
00:05:14
Nate
But exactly, it's like, do you see like one or two things happening in the season that coach artists came off or, or whatever?
00:05:22
killianginnity
I think it would take something extraordinary. um And that's not just being cocky. Like I fully expect us to drop down a bit, but I i do see us finishing in the playoffs. And we have a strong squad.
00:05:34
killianginnity
We have a deep squad. Like we have,
00:05:35
Conor Glennon
It's young though. It's deep, but it's young.
00:05:38
killianginnity
Yeah, i am um, and there hasn't been a problem with that yet. Um, like we have backup midfielders now that came from, uh, legal or, um, like a year or two ago, and they're like 22, 23.
Connolly's Performance Expectations
00:05:56
killianginnity
I'm talking about ideal, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, whatever his name is. Um, like we have really.
00:06:04
killianginnity
like ah the only issue we kind of have now is in defense but like we even have youngsters like an 18 year old Tommy Watson i don't know if you saw that academy goal that's going around from sunland and the second tier on twitter shared it it'll be there and like even from the academy we're playing like proper football and um
00:06:14
Conor Glennon
No.
00:06:24
killianginnity
like that the coach said that like because of Mundal who is our Jack Clark 2.0 like genuinely he's actually like in some ah aspects like better than Jack Clark he's quicker he's stronger he's more direct um he just isn't at Jack Clark's level yet but he will be um and only for him be doing so good we'd have even more youngsters coming through so I'm i'm so so excited like i I genuinely think but you could see us in the Premier League next year.
00:06:51
Nate
ah ting I I'd like to say I think it'll get very good.
00:06:59
killianginnity
we won't We won't last in the Premier League next year, but we could see us.
00:07:01
Nate
I think it'd be very good for the podcast if it did, but welcome to our level, Kitty, and welcome to our level.
00:07:06
Conor Glennon
Kill you and finally get some airtime on Sombra.
00:07:11
Nate
I think it'll get really, like I think there'll be a really interesting watch this season in terms of when it gets a bit later on in the season, the pressure ramps up with the youngsters. The away days get a lot harder, don't they, in the championship in terms of, you like you're you're going to teams that might be battling for their for their safety or or whatever, and it becomes it becomes quite a battle.
00:07:25
killianginnity
But.
00:07:31
Nate
It's like, they'll be the key moments this season, I'd say.
00:07:35
killianginnity
Yeah, like we already saw that like our only loss in the league so far and was against Plymouth and that is the longest away day in the EFL.
00:07:46
Conor Glennon
Jesus, yeah, when you think about it, that was so far.
00:07:49
killianginnity
Yeah, ah so and we lost that and we didn't lose badly. It was a creditable performance.
00:07:53
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:07:55
killianginnity
We deserved to lose, but it was, it was just, but just got the better chances and took them. Um, ah that's the one thing with young players is sometimes they can have a really off game and still play well, but still have the experience.
00:08:08
Conor Glennon
My thing with the young squad is as well is, man, the championship is one of the toughest leagues in the world. like It really is. It's an absolute grind. And when it comes to the end of that season, it's it's it's not even who you've got caliber wise in your team.
00:08:16
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:08:21
Conor Glennon
It's it's leaders and and and strength, really, that kind of drag you by the fingernails into the frame, especially through the playoffs.
00:08:29
killianginnity
Yeah, but...
00:08:30
Conor Glennon
playoffs are rotten.
00:08:30
Nate
Yeah, you'd want big leaders on the pitch and wet and blue like.
00:08:34
killianginnity
Because we've been playing these young lads for a long time, like Dan Ballard is like 24 now, but he's had three full of seasons with us. So he's more experienced than some of the more experienced players, and because he's been getting a lot more consistent game time in rougher divisions um and has been part of a promotion squad. So i'm not I'm not worried about that yet.
Connolly's Reputation Rebuilding
00:08:59
Conor Glennon
What do we think success looks like for Connelly?
00:08:59
killianginnity
and
00:09:02
Conor Glennon
Just looking at his goals versus games. like Brighton, first team, 52 games, 8 goals. Under 23s, 42 games, 31 goals. That's bloody good. But then Hull City, 36 games, 10 goals.
00:09:15
killianginnity
most of which, and most of them 10 goals for whole came very early on as well.
00:09:16
Conor Glennon
2 goals. yeah
00:09:22
Conor Glennon
So it's like, cause this is where it's unfortunate for a striker when you're on a trial, like you can play well, but if you're not putting the ball in the back of the net, it's see you later, mate. you know
00:09:32
killianginnity
I would say with something and not necessarily, we, we do very like as a squad, we do appreciate players that make other players score.
00:09:42
Conor Glennon
If he can create, yeah, i just he needs to be he can't just be we move yeah he he can't just be moving well with the ball.
00:09:42
killianginnity
And yeah,
00:09:46
killianginnity
He can't be a passenger. He can't be a passenger.
00:09:49
Conor Glennon
He either has to be setting up goals or scoring goals or he just won't last.
00:09:50
killianginnity
No.
00:09:53
killianginnity
and And the only thing for him as well though is we have a personality-wise a good squad and we have a lot of players that are capable of being in the right position. So even if he isn't scoring that they'll always be somebody there for a rebound and stuff like this is the best opportunity he could hope for.
Connolly's Community Integration
00:10:12
Nate
I think a big thing for him personally is as well is build back a bit of hype.
00:10:16
Conor Glennon
Mm.
00:10:18
Nate
He's got a bad rap for himself, whether that's justified or not, I don't know. I haven't really paid too much attention to it. But as we know, industries, they speak to each other. like if If you have a bad name, a bad rap, it gets around, that's something he badly needs to shake.
00:10:32
Nate
and that and that kind of
00:10:32
Conor Glennon
Especially at a 24, like he's bloody young, you know.
00:10:34
Nate
yeah like that that can only be done through hard work and and getting the job done so I'd like to see him take it and hopefully he does but I think that success for him is is getting rid of that thing that's hanging over his head.
00:10:47
Conor Glennon
Like um on paper, if you look at his career from under 18 to under 18 through the senior team, he's played 175 games, 54 goals and five assists on paper. That's very good.
00:10:58
Conor Glennon
But when you take away the fact that 25 of those goals were for under 23s, it's a little less impressive.
00:11:04
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:11:06
Conor Glennon
So like if he gets, I don't know, 17 games, so he gets six goals.
00:11:10
killianginnity
I got seven goals, yeah.
00:11:11
Conor Glennon
Yeah, I think that'd be enough.
00:11:13
killianginnity
ah And the other thing as well for him is that the fact that he yeah he he will have to base himself at in and around Sondland. He'll have to get immersed in the community um because it's just too far.
00:11:25
killianginnity
like It's not like where you can kind of commute from somewhere.
00:11:28
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:11:29
killianginnity
He might do Newcastle, but if you're moving up that far, you might as well go to the place that you're playing in.
00:11:34
Conor Glennon
But as as well as if you want, if you want a reason for like, look, if the fans love you, there's another reason to keep you and just live in Southern and get, as he said, involved in the in the community and hype yourself up and make yourself irreplaceable, at least to the fans, you know.
00:11:49
killianginnity
Oh, yeah. And like, as well, though, is like, it's Sunderland, it's not like it's going to be in London with its nightlife.
00:11:57
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:11:57
killianginnity
So like, if there is any of them kind of potential issues, they should be somewhat subverted.
00:12:03
Conor Glennon
Contained.
Everton's Potential Takeover by Dan Friedkin
00:12:04
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:12:04
killianginnity
um But talking about containing problems, Everton seem to probably have finally been taken over.
00:12:13
Conor Glennon
Maybe.
00:12:17
Nate
digital files apart watch.
00:12:19
Conor Glennon
ah it you'd You'd really hope for evidence's sake that that they have managed to do this.
00:12:19
killianginnity
and...
00:12:24
Conor Glennon
I do wonder is it a little bit too late for them though, you know?
00:12:27
Nate
I do. I think the rot is really set in a black hole. Um, like he talks about managers and stuff now with it with everything. It's like, um, yeah, it's, it's just going to be heavy. Do you, do you have any details on a kidney and in terms of takeover?
00:12:45
killianginnity
Yeah, a few. So basically, and it looked like that a guy, ah the the American co-owner of Palace was going to take them over, but he was talking a lot and had made no moves in trying to sell Palace.
00:12:57
killianginnity
So you can't do that. um And then he was also talking about his plans for Everton um in the stock exchange before he even had a yeah and exclusive ah deal but to to talk to Machiri.
00:13:13
Conor Glennon
So he seems like a bit of a Walter maybe.
00:13:16
killianginnity
Yeah, I think he just kind of got ahead of himself. I think he assumed that he had exclusive rights, but he didn't. um But Dan Friedkin is who's coming in. And if you've recognized that name, and he actually was a stunt pilot in the movie Dunkirk.
00:13:28
Nate
Sounds familiar. here
00:13:33
Conor Glennon
ah Stop reading.
00:13:34
killianginnity
He's a movie. movie Yeah, he won an award for it. He is a film producer and um he is the owner of Roma.
00:13:45
Conor Glennon
Okay.
00:13:46
killianginnity
That's where he's known from.
00:13:47
Conor Glennon
Yeah. I knew I knew the name.
00:13:47
Nate
Yeah.
00:13:48
Nate
Hard. erda
00:13:49
killianginnity
Yeah, so ah what, yeah, like solo owner basically.
00:13:51
Conor Glennon
Majority owner or.
00:13:55
Conor Glennon
Okay.
00:13:55
killianginnity
I think it's him and his brother. um But the details with this though is that he is kind of giving them a cash injection. ah So basically, Moshiri looks to be coming out of this with about 20 million net.
00:14:08
Conor Glennon
Jesus. That's not much.
00:14:10
killianginnity
Like that's not, um and that's not net after his, um initial investment. That is net as in that's all he's going to be getting even after clauses.
00:14:20
Conor Glennon
Imagine selling a Prime Club for near 20 million quid.
00:14:24
killianginnity
Reason being is Friedkin is taking on the debt and um ah taking it all on and is actually writing off the debt.
00:14:31
Conor Glennon
New stadium and the likes.
00:14:37
Conor Glennon
Okay.
00:14:37
Nate
Okay.
00:14:37
killianginnity
So the club is no longer in, like I think it's writing off something like 250 million a debt.
00:14:44
Conor Glennon
Jesus, I mean, if you're a fan, you're looking at that going, at least we're safe.
00:14:45
killianginnity
Yeah,
00:14:49
killianginnity
yeah this is the thing. um Now the question marks are freaking, and it comes in, if you've watched them at Roma. So Roma have had decent investment. So you can't criticize that there. if They're reasonably ran. I can't, I wouldn't say good, but they've attracted the likes of Mourinho.
00:15:05
killianginnity
and they attracted big players. and Like they've had Lukaku and DiBala, Chris Smalling, and now a lot of these have left, but they had these kind of big players with little outlay, so but massive wages.
00:15:18
Conor Glennon
Mm-hmm.
00:15:19
killianginnity
ah So that was one of the issues with Mourinho.
00:15:21
Conor Glennon
On a manager turn, you know.
00:15:23
killianginnity
big manager turn that is that being the, like the latest one being that normal legend today Daniela de Rossi.
00:15:27
Conor Glennon
Daniel Drossi.
00:15:30
killianginnity
Um, but the thing with them now is, uh, they have been trying to change how their whole squad has been made up from these kind of bigger wages to trying to make it a little bit more youthful, a little bit more clever because in the last, I think it's four or five years, there's been four different were winners of Syria and, uh,
00:15:52
killianginnity
ah Roma hasn't been in Champions League places in five or six years um so while this is seems to be the opportunity for and teams to come up and grab a title for themselves Roma are nowhere near the races um so
00:16:11
killianginnity
Freakings around a while. So she'll be getting maybe better results. um Like I know they've just ah changed sporting directors as well. So there's plenty of excuses you could make.
00:16:21
Nate
it's
00:16:23
killianginnity
um
Everton's Direction Post-Takeover
00:16:24
killianginnity
I'd be worried if I was Sean Dyche though.
00:16:26
Conor Glennon
big time yeah
00:16:26
Nate
it's It's a good club to have partnered with you though, isn't it?
00:16:30
Nate
Like a Roma Everton partnership is good.
00:16:31
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:16:34
Nate
From what I remember, and correct me if I'm wrong though, is Merino Dick playing a lot about the lack of money into the squad?
00:16:42
killianginnity
He complained a lot about the actual spend, but they gave it on wages.
00:16:45
Nate
Yeah.
00:16:46
Nate
Yeah.
00:16:46
killianginnity
Like they, they wouldn't fork out for the Bala, but they gave it, they matched his, you vent his wages.
00:16:52
Nate
Yeah.
00:16:53
killianginnity
So it's like, you're kind of giving up one hand and taking one another. Plus, Marina will always win you about Outlay. Like you should know that better than anybody, Nate.
00:17:02
Nate
No, but I do remember being like, I loved that once and I was like, they they didn't spend actual like upfront money, but if it was paying the wages, it was paying the wages. m But yeah.
00:17:12
killianginnity
It was one January where they were trying to get bannucci and by the end of it the bot like a 19 year old for 1.8 million.
00:17:18
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:17:18
Nate
But it'd be interesting to see how they transform that sort of ideology from... what they've done in Syria after the Premier League because if they haven't been up front and they're putting forward 250 million to write off debt that's a lot of money.
00:17:35
Conor Glennon
Mm.
00:17:35
Nate
It's like do they have that money then to invest in it because to me Everton look like they need a lot of investment and they've obviously sold a fair bit this summer and it's a bright way to sell as well.
00:17:35
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:17:48
Nate
It's like what's sort of next for Everton in terms of that like
00:17:52
Conor Glennon
I mean, pessimistically, are they looking at this with one eye and the championship going, okay, we'll get $100 billion in the parachute payment. That's $100 million back. and We'll get rid of our large earners and start afresh and see what we can build.
00:18:06
Nate
Yeah possibly.
00:18:08
killianginnity
like I think what you're going to see initially is that there'll be a change in sporting directorship. I think that they're going to try and probably make the two clubs a little bit more aligned that way, um which will then kind of influence the January window. and I think if Newcastle wants to get Brathwaite, now's the time.
00:18:28
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:18:29
killianginnity
and get them while they kind of would like the cash injection. And I think if they get a sporting director worth their salt, I think any sporting director would kind of go, yeah, with a club like this, I could do better with 230 million players than I could with 170 million player.
00:18:45
Conor Glennon
Do you think, yeah, I think, I think you're right with that.
00:18:45
Nate
but as i your go
00:18:47
Nate
and
00:18:49
Conor Glennon
What I was going to say is, do you think now that United went down the Mazzrari and the Licht route, that move to United is just dead in the water?
Everton's Squad and Financial Strategies
00:18:57
Conor Glennon
like I'm trying to think outside of Newcastle and Man United.
00:19:02
Conor Glennon
I don't really remember many going in for them.
00:19:04
Nate
I think it is dead for United's point of view, but I do think it's interesting now that I think they'll be well more open to it now that that money can't go in Moshiri's bank account. Do you know what I mean? Like it's not another 70 million that gets added on to to what he takes away from it. So that possibly could have been one reason why they weren't ready to sell more in the summer.
00:19:27
Conor Glennon
I think if you're showing dice, I think you ah imagine the best you'll get as January.
00:19:27
killianginnity
Possibly.
00:19:33
killianginnity
unless you can turn the results around. I don't think they're going to give them bullet for the sake of giving bullet. um So I think it'll probably be kind of get to January and see from there.
00:19:45
killianginnity
um I think in regards to Brantway, I think you' you will see a lot more interest when you see the club actually willing to sell um because I think one of the issues
00:19:53
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:19:53
Nate
Yeah.
00:19:57
killianginnity
with that deal was that they wanted a lot, ah a lot if not all of it up front. Whereas I think a structured deal could suit maybe the likes of a Newcastle or a Chelsea or you might even see a city kind of considerate because English player, young, like
00:20:12
Nate
i You might even see round-red looking, like, to to be honest.
00:20:16
killianginnity
very possibly but like it could like that like you know you never know what the merry-go-rounds city might buy them then let like john stones go to Madrid like these are the kind of things you could imagine i think city are very clever we at kind of moving players on as they approach that kind of age yeah um like they did it with gundam
00:20:31
Nate
before they get to the beat. Yeah.
00:20:35
Conor Glennon
Do you think if you're Jacob Brown, you're kinda like, should I have come here?
00:20:39
Nate
No, I think it opens a good pathway for him personally.
00:20:42
Nate
like i
00:20:42
killianginnity
Last week, I would have said, yeah, Connor, but I think it needs a hundred percent right now.
00:20:46
killianginnity
I think this is a new, new dawn from.
00:20:47
Nate
I think he's in a good spot in terms of like, Icy Brown's way gone. Whether that's January, summer, I don't know. I could possibly see it in January. But, you know, there's a good opportunity there for Jacob Ryan to put his stamp on that centre back position.
00:21:04
Conor Glennon
Yeah, I agree.
00:21:04
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:21:05
Conor Glennon
you know like i i just i Part of me, that just the last couple of days, I've been i've been wondering what must be going around his head, I suppose. He's on a good contract, realistically, if if they went down, he'd probably get a move anyway.
00:21:18
Conor Glennon
So it's probably not too much alarm bells going on.
00:21:20
Nate
The one thing with Everton though is their squad is so bad past the top one
Synergies Between Everton and Roma
00:21:26
Nate
or two players. like like it's it's It's really bad.
00:21:27
Conor Glennon
That's a riser thing.
00:21:28
killianginnity
Mm.
00:21:30
Nate
like like I'm worried about the investment they're going to have to make to get even remotely up the table.
00:21:38
Conor Glennon
because they don't even have massive amount of players that they can flog to regain the money. You know, like you said, they've got a handful, but you know, Coleman, you're not getting any money for him. He's, he's panging on by a thread injury wise. Jacob Brian's just there. Um, as you said, Branswaite's kind of your only cash cow, really.
00:21:58
killianginnity
What you might see happen though is like when Newton Izzy took over um or the Potsie family took over Watford, you might see some loans between the two of them.
00:21:58
Nate
Yeah.
00:22:06
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:22:07
Nate
Yeah.
00:22:07
killianginnity
Even just to tide them over to the end of the season. like Roma have a decent squad and a decent enough squad that they could afford to send one or two away.
00:22:20
Conor Glennon
I also think yeah the one thing with the Roma connection that you you have to remember is they'll have a knowledge of the players of the Everton kind of, I suppose, lower end of the league players in Italy that they could pinch from other teams. online
00:22:33
killianginnity
Yeah, plus there's always that co-ownership thing that's hung over Italy. So there's always interesting relationships between clubs, and whether or not it's above board anymore or not.
00:22:47
killianginnity
and But ah it's it's still there. So like it'll be
Everton's New Stadium Plans
00:22:51
killianginnity
interesting. It's going to be very interesting when they have the new stadium, in Stanley Park. We've seen with Tottenham, Tottenham were able to step up.
00:22:59
Conor Glennon
Hmm.
00:22:59
killianginnity
It was have a big cash earner. um or will they be like an arsenal with the Emirates and spend 10 years penny pinching to kind of pay it off?
00:23:05
Nate
Yeah.
00:23:08
killianginnity
um i I don't know because they're like i did the difference is Tottenham had the NFL to back up to fall back on for that money.
00:23:20
killianginnity
do Does Everton open it up for gigs?
00:23:23
Conor Glennon
I mean, they'll have to do something.
00:23:24
Nate
I think they have to. like like If you build a new stadium in 2024, it sort of needs to be multi-purpose.
00:23:25
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:23:26
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:23:31
Nate
Otherwise, with stuff that's going on in the world and whatever, is it even economically viable to do it? like
00:23:37
Conor Glennon
But I think even if they like looked at Tottenham have that NFL contract locked down for I think in another at least three years, I think one avenue they could go down in that world is kind of like what the Aviva did with college football.
00:23:51
killianginnity
Yeah, possibly. I just don't know if there's enough.
00:23:56
killianginnity
I think the difference with like the Aviva and say like what the London Stadium or whatever Tottenham Stadium that like it's there the big cities.
00:24:07
killianginnity
I don't know if Americans know that Liverpool exists or how they get there.
00:24:11
Conor Glennon
Yeah fair.
00:24:12
Nate
Yeah and they could be in a bad situation in terms of Tottenham got the last sort of in rush of events and stuff in their new stadium and then who knows four or five years down the line there could be a brand new Manchester United stadium and it's like they're stuck in the middle sort of.
00:24:14
killianginnity
It's not a direct flight. so
00:24:31
Conor Glennon
I suppose there's other sports that could get boxing.
00:24:32
killianginnity
Actually, but maybe. Actually, Nate, on that, I saw a thing going on on social about the potential new Old Trafford. Is there any truth to this bouncy castle looking thing?
00:24:49
Nate
I you see. I don't think and like I think that's just like a placeholder.
00:24:54
killianginnity
Is it paper talk?
00:24:55
Nate
Yeah. Like I think it is paper talk like it's I don't think it's going to be like that. Let's just say that. And I think what they're trying to do smartly is they go that the state is not going to be publicly funded, but they want the things around it to me.
Old Trafford Renovation Debate
00:25:13
Nate
So like.
00:25:13
Conor Glennon
okay
00:25:15
Nate
So like they're sort of playing the long game in terms of building infrastructure in that part of Manchester, Opelaw. ah
00:25:21
killianginnity
So when you say the the other things, do you mean like parking, road infrastructure and stuff so that it kind of comes across that like they're improving the community and they're paying for the stadium themselves.
00:25:25
Nate
Yeah, public transport.
00:25:29
Nate
Yeah.
00:25:29
Conor Glennon
okay so what's what city are doing but just city pay for all of it instead of this way around they want the council to pay or private equity to pay for the surrounds and they'll pay for the stadium
00:25:30
Nate
and Yeah.
00:25:41
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:25:42
Nate
where we where yeah that's sort of the deal that is it looks like it's being proposed is where United go United go lads we'll pay for the stadium it's gonna bring a lot of money and a lot of jobs and and then events and stuff like that and you guys take care of the infrastructure ah to me that seems like a fair deal
00:25:47
Conor Glennon
It's not terrible.
00:26:02
Conor Glennon
Yeah I mean like we've seen it in the NFL like I know a lot of the teams have have tried to create you know casinos and hotels and all so and restaurants all around but it's starting to happen now that ah a lot of the clubs can't afford to do that even though they all have billionaire owners or probably just don't want to the cash and check injection to do it, dude so they're getting private equity to to run the the surrounds.
00:26:23
Conor Glennon
I mean, it's, it's workable. I mean, as long as the stadium is functional and ah I mean, what's your feelings on a new stadium versus doing up old Trafford? Like I know there's probably too much damage done to the stadium to redo it, but ah for me, I hate to see clubs moving stadiums or, you know.
00:26:33
Nate
or on
00:26:38
Nate
I'm so split on this, you know? Like, I'm genuinely 50-50, whether I want it or not. and
00:26:45
Conor Glennon
And what's the pros and cons?
00:26:47
Nate
Pros is a better experience. Better experience, better... if It'll feel like a fresh start. and more more things to do around it and and it becomes more of a like, if you're going to see it, it becomes more of a day rather than just a game.
00:27:07
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:27:07
Nate
and it It appeals to more players, probably brings in more revenues, stuff like that. That's all problems.
00:27:14
Conor Glennon
and terms in terms of In terms of location before we head into the cons, where how far away from the original stadium are they thinking or have they have they said?
00:27:23
Nate
And apparently it's just like, it's just like land that the club owns just down the road basically.
00:27:31
Conor Glennon
Oh, then that's much of homogenous, really.
00:27:32
Nate
It's basically in a car park basically.
Preserving Old Trafford's Legacy
00:27:35
Nate
But the cons to it for me personally is like that's all traffic, you know?
00:27:43
Nate
That's hundreds of years of the club entries.
00:27:47
Conor Glennon
What's one of the most iconic stadiums in world football? like I've been myself to numerous times and even though it is a bit of a shithole, you can feel the ghosts of football pass walk around.
00:27:57
Nate
Actually, I'll do it.
00:28:02
Conor Glennon
they like Every player you can think of has played there. you know
00:28:05
Nate
But the yeah, I'm...
00:28:05
killianginnity
But not only that, you were there since the 1920s. You're coming up to like the 100th anniversary.
00:28:10
Nate
And the thing is, people's relatives have been laid out at Old Trafford. That used to be a thing where you could go and bring your relatives.
00:28:22
Nate
So there's a lot of stuff like that.
00:28:23
Conor Glennon
They do awake like.
00:28:25
Nate
You could spread the ashes at Old Trafford. You used to be able to do that.
00:28:28
Conor Glennon
Jesus.
00:28:29
Nate
It only stopped recently. and
00:28:31
Conor Glennon
Whoa.
00:28:33
killianginnity
Do you think it's...
00:28:34
Nate
just so there's There's all things like that where it's like, if we're going to do this and knock down all Trafford and build a new one, it there needs to be such an importance put on, let's preserve as much as this as we can.
00:28:46
Conor Glennon
But like I hate what Hibery did and the fact that Hibery's now apartment block. like i like The only thing they've they've left there is the tunnel walk. They transformed into something. But like that breaks my heart.
00:28:58
Conor Glennon
you know
00:28:58
killianginnity
Well, like Tom was showing, you can build a new stadium and not have to change location for the stadium.
00:29:04
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:29:04
Nate
Oh, we won't be changing location.
00:29:05
killianginnity
and
00:29:06
Nate
I think it's just more of the actual history in it.
00:29:06
killianginnity
Yeah. the the The structure, yeah, building.
00:29:09
Conor Glennon
Act of doing it, yeah.
00:29:11
Nate
The Munich Tunnel, like the Munich Tunnel is a big one. and Just like the old tunnel, old traffic, just like stuff like that, that's sort of irreplaceable.
00:29:21
Nate
and Yeah.
00:29:21
killianginnity
So you kind of do a little bit more like what Wembley did when they rebuilt it, kind of keeping in in set like not sections, but like, we're going to take this, I'm going to make a part of the new build, and everyone will know it's there, and that's all that matters, rather than actually having to try and like rebuild on top of it.
00:29:33
Nate
Yeah.
00:29:37
Conor Glennon
Buy fresh, yeah.
00:29:38
Nate
But I think Guineos need to be so careful with it because I feel like the stadium is the one thing that if they get it like wrong, it could be horribly wrong.
00:29:42
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:29:49
Conor Glennon
Well, there's no coming back from that, because that's a that's a long lasting piece.
00:29:50
killianginnity
boy
00:29:54
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:29:55
Conor Glennon
If they build a new stadium, that'll last longer than any of us. Put it that way.
00:29:58
Nate
Well, they're serving at the fans right now.
00:29:59
killianginnity
Would you, would you take a smaller capacity for a better stadium?
00:30:02
Conor Glennon
If that makes no sense for them financially, then, you know,
00:30:07
Nate
No, no, no, like, I'd rather just renovate all traffic.
00:30:11
killianginnity
Well, you'd have more, you you'd have less fans that would be willing to pay more money because you'll get a better
Manchester United's Future Stadium Plans
00:30:16
killianginnity
experience for it.
00:30:16
Nate
But that would drive a ticket price around it.
00:30:17
Conor Glennon
That's it. Yeah, it's a bit American for me that.
00:30:20
Nate
Like,
00:30:23
killianginnity
ah like Don't forget that we were we're talking about a yeah ah Brexit here that one of his first actions was toaclo to sack a lot of local people. He's not necessarily a man of the people um and he like he is willing to make the ruthless decisions.
00:30:37
Conor Glennon
i I think he's looking at this going twofold. He looks at Spurs and, like you said, sees the commercial value to the stadium, the optics of having such a good stadium in in kind of the talkability of world football.
00:30:48
Conor Glennon
And I think he's just trying to cram in as many bums and seats as possible. um And i think it's I think where they have a unique kind of opportunity with this is the bar is set so low at the current stadium.
00:31:01
Conor Glennon
they don't They don't have to go full Tottenham, you know?
00:31:02
killianginnity
But, no, but is it a little bit too little too late when I say it comes to the the extra stuff when City have been building on this for the part past, the past decade, really?
00:31:18
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:31:19
killianginnity
Like, is it a little bit kind of the horse's voltage on how you're reacting?
00:31:25
Nate
uh i don't think so like i think i think like the the cool thing about it is we can now take what city of dawn and take inspiration from it in terms of we know how big that is if we want to replicate it we can um to me with Sir Jim, it's like, and don when he came in, he was like, this is like a passion thing for me.
00:31:47
Nate
It's like my legacy sort of thing like that. You don't have to have a real long think about how much he cares about that legacy when it comes to this, because it really could define his legacy in terms of he's talking about the the Wembley in the north and just talks about being close to 100k seats.
00:32:06
Nate
And he needs
00:32:08
Conor Glennon
That's huge. like that's That's massive.
00:32:11
Nate
He needs to be very careful about how he goes about it. Do you know what I mean? There's a fine, fine line. And I'm a bit scared it might step over, but it's...
00:32:23
Conor Glennon
What's the current? How many seeds now?
00:32:25
killianginnity
seventy
00:32:26
Nate
Yeah, no, 74.
00:32:26
killianginnity
two seventy two s only east seventy nine seventy two yeah somewhere yeah somewhere
00:32:30
Nate
74.
00:32:31
Conor Glennon
So that's a big jump.
00:32:32
Nate
Yeah, and actually, that's ah that's a good thing to point out. as like I think Manchester as a whole is becoming such a... Like that city is like going up big time in terms of what city you've done, the new hydro arena, possibly when.
00:32:48
Conor Glennon
Even even even even out out of entertainment, like you're seeing a lot of businesses move out of London post-Brexit, moving to um Manchester, both from ah at least from an advertising point of view is the one i kind of I'm aware of the most, but you're you're seeing a lot of kind of operations trying to find better but better buying for their book and they're they're going towards Manchester and Liverpool.
00:32:51
killianginnity
seventy two seventy two seventy seventy nine seventy two yeah somewhere
00:33:10
Nate
So I think...
00:33:11
killianginnity
jim Do you think this is kind of a little bit of Radcliffe kind of looking at the outrage of United fans when they weren't being put forward to be a Euros stadium?
00:33:12
Nate
Go ahead.
00:33:26
killianginnity
That it's kind of like ah a little bit of curry in favor kind of going, yes, we need need a new stadium, but I'm going to make a stadium that Yuzilal think will be used in a World Cup when the next one comes around.
00:33:36
Nate
Ah, yeah, but like I think Galtrophin still should have been used and, you know, it's like, it's like it's still a full time.
00:33:40
Conor Glennon
Yeah, i as even as bad as it is structurally, like i that was i'd never I never expected them to be left out of any stadium selection process, ever.
00:33:45
Nate
i like
00:33:50
Conor Glennon
you know
00:33:51
killianginnity
Like it's while that Sunderland was in the selection process longer than the whole Trafford.
00:33:54
Conor Glennon
That's mad.
00:33:56
Nate
But isn't that the crazy thing, though?
00:34:00
Nate
He's now in such a predicament where he's like he's literally stuck in the middle in terms of, if I'm going to have to do this and build a new stadium, it's going to have to have a real wow factor in terms of bringing in events, as you said, NFL, stuff like that.
00:34:16
Nate
And then he also has a huge fan base to appease, so he's really stuck in the middle.
00:34:16
killianginnity
what
00:34:21
killianginnity
Would you accept a Arson Wenger-esque 10 years of being fourth to pay for the stadium in the long term?
00:34:29
Nate
Oh, we're about to see mine.
00:34:30
Conor Glennon
I mean, well jeez, it's kind of what you've been doing for a while.
00:34:31
Nate
Oh.
00:34:33
Conor Glennon
You know, it's not much different.
00:34:33
Nate
Yeah, if we're not built on the mirrors already, look.
00:34:37
killianginnity
Yeah, but like it's...
00:34:37
Nate
We're alive now.
00:34:38
killianginnity
it ah and like The cost of building a stadium is kind of like... Despite how big he paid for the club, but it's kind of the club's investment again.
00:34:50
killianginnity
So unless he like you get you can't you can't pay for that out of pocket,
Newcastle United's Management Issues
00:34:55
killianginnity
either him personally or the club.
00:34:55
Conor Glennon
Surely the glazers have to chip in though.
00:34:58
Nate
Oh, he can pay you. He's an amount of it in a pocket, can't he? But I think Manchester United's revenue is so high. I'm here to hear that.
00:35:07
killianginnity
I just mean, it's it's kind of that he's got he's goingnna have to so he is going to have to saddle the club with debt.
00:35:10
Nate
That's...
00:35:13
Conor Glennon
Which is why everyone hated the Glazers.
00:35:15
Nate
Yeah, but we've been saddled with that for years.
00:35:19
killianginnity
But can you afford more debt?
00:35:21
Conor Glennon
Because your your interest payments are what, like $60 million?
00:35:25
Nate
Yeah, but...
00:35:26
killianginnity
Could this, like, all, like, T-shirt on the glazers writing off some debt?
00:35:34
Nate
Um, possibly.
00:35:36
Conor Glennon
They won't do it though. At least I don't think so.
00:35:39
Nate
They might though, because their investment, their investment in the club goes up if there's a two, what, 4 billion, 2 billion pound stadium.
00:35:51
Conor Glennon
Well, yeah, I mean, on paper, the club's assets ah skyrocket and those company value skyrockets.
00:35:51
killianginnity
all
00:35:57
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:35:57
Nate
Plus, to glaze his own NFL team, it's a much bigger conversation rather than Juicy I base, I think.
00:36:01
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:36:02
killianginnity
yeah true actually never thought um
00:36:07
Nate
So, there's more in it for them.
00:36:08
killianginnity
yeah um would Would you groundshare with City for a year to get it done?
00:36:12
Conor Glennon
You mad bastard.
00:36:13
Nate
No, I'd rather...
00:36:13
Conor Glennon
Are you trying to make the man explode?
00:36:15
Nate
I'd rather play in fucking Wembley.
00:36:17
Conor Glennon
Yeah, what is the crack? So like, obviously, you know, that that is one positive of moving to a new stadium is that you still get to play in the old and while they're building that. But if you're doing up the stadium, where will is it?
00:36:28
Conor Glennon
Where would you be playing?
00:36:29
Nate
I don't know.
00:36:30
killianginnity
like Tottenham did it pretty quick. And even then, I think it was a half season or a full season in London.
00:36:36
Conor Glennon
Data Covid season in Wembley, didn't they?
00:36:39
Nate
Yeah.
00:36:40
killianginnity
It was the London stadium for part of it anyway.
00:36:42
Conor Glennon
Was it?
00:36:43
killianginnity
so There was a load of moving around and yeah.
00:36:44
Nate
They had Wembley for a long time as well.
00:36:46
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:36:47
Nate
And I've had a grand share with Everton, I'll be honest.
00:36:47
killianginnity
um
00:36:50
Conor Glennon
ah
00:36:52
Nate
It's not that far away.
00:36:54
killianginnity
I'm quite sure it's Alfred.
00:36:56
Conor Glennon
I was thinking that too, yeah.
00:36:56
Nate
yeah I don't know.
00:36:58
killianginnity
but
00:36:59
Nate
I really hope as I say, you like crash it. But, is it?
00:37:04
killianginnity
Well, it is your only kind of ah local option. like There is nowhere within.
00:37:07
Nate
I think.
00:37:09
Conor Glennon
Well, what's around you?
00:37:10
Nate
Is that you?
00:37:10
killianginnity
like
00:37:11
Conor Glennon
You got Bolton, you got Wagon, you got like, there's not much going on.
00:37:16
Nate
How far away is Newcastle?
00:37:16
killianginnity
Is there any big rugby stadium?
00:37:20
Conor Glennon
Well, our pitch is an absolute joke when you actually stand on it. like it's it's It's on a slant that you wouldn't even believe. like It is not flat. like When you're on the wrong side of it, it is... I don't know how the FA allowed it. I'll get the measurements on it for the next part. I think it's something like a five foot drop from one side to the other. like It is massive.
00:37:44
killianginnity
Actually just on both pitches and Newcastle, Newcastle i have apparently chipped in for AFC Wimbledon to repair their pitch after um the flooding.
00:37:51
Conor Glennon
I saw that.
00:37:53
killianginnity
and Do you have any details on that? I think it was 10 or 15 grand?
00:37:56
Conor Glennon
It was 15k. It was a nice gesture. you know I think that club's been through an awful lot already. i mean To be honest with you, I did think 15k was quite light. I think it's more of a an optics job. and ah and a
00:38:10
Nate
Ah, that's the lunge for the crown prince, isn't it?
00:38:10
Conor Glennon
and you know i think
00:38:14
killianginnity
And in fairness, you need an optics job after the results of the weekend.
00:38:17
Conor Glennon
Yeah, we we got absolutely butchered. We need a positive news story. and And when you see the damage that was done, in that pitch 15K ain't going to go too far. But look, don't shoot a gift horse in the mouth as they say. It was nice to do, but I think they could have gone a bit heavier, 50K maybe.
00:38:33
killianginnity
I know, like in fairness, it's, it's, it's one of many, I think, I think they're going to very easily reach their goal. Um, I think they've got 75 K out of the hundred K that they're looking to raise.
00:38:43
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:38:44
killianginnity
So like, uh, anything is good. Like I don't think someone has contributed. So I'll give all credit to you guys.
00:38:49
Conor Glennon
Ah, yeah. Like, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just, to be honest with you, I'm just sour after losing three wonderful and I don't think there's, there's anything positive
Newcastle's Financial Challenges
00:38:57
Conor Glennon
coming out of that. We were royally taught a lesson.
00:39:01
killianginnity
Is it a time for Jason to know that obviously him being the manager.
00:39:04
Conor Glennon
ah like i've been I've been saying it from from the start of the season on the pod that there's something not right with the tune. I don't know what it is. We're not operating the way we should be. I know we got some kind of two wins on the bounce there and we've played some decent ball. but I just feel something's arrived between, you know, we've had a tumultuous couple of months of the club with, you know, all the Ashworth situation going on.
00:39:32
Conor Glennon
Stavly and ah her husband, Gurdozzi, kind of stepping away from the club. Stavly's also, her company's now gone into liquidation, so she's in a whole other situation.
00:39:44
Conor Glennon
Then
00:39:44
killianginnity
I wonder if that was that a very timely ah kind of leaving of the club.
00:39:46
Conor Glennon
I think, yeah, I do too. And then, you know, I would all this chat with how in England I would, I know, you know, we've been bandering around in the WhatsApp group that it's, it's, it's probably how might lose the Newcastle job before he gets the offer of the England job. But I do think he's kind of got one eye on that job. but it's it All of those things together, it doesn't feel like the club's as cohesive as it was the last even two years, you know?
00:40:13
Nate
is Is there much?
00:40:13
killianginnity
Yeah, well it must be kind of frustrating for how you like after after rebuilding his reputation, ah after it being so good after Bournemouth, that if he just got the offer in the summer, it would have all have been perfect.
00:40:28
Conor Glennon
You would have gone. Yeah, you would have gone.
00:40:29
killianginnity
Perfect directory opening.
00:40:32
Nate
Yeah, is is there much communication coming from the top of the new gospel? like
00:40:36
Conor Glennon
Yes and no, like I mean, there there' they're telling you what you want to hear kind of thing, you know, I think to be honest, the things that the comms team are really focusing on. These are Adidas collaborations and and and that side of things more than anything. I think the club are really leveraging nostalgia to kind of take away from more serious issues at the club. You know, there wasn't much transparency on the transfers out like Elliott Anderson, you know, that that was very much for financial reasons. So I think they didn't want to talk about it.
00:41:08
Conor Glennon
mintor too um So yeah, like there's there's definitely comms coming from the club. It's not radio silence, but it's very much kind of fluffy pieces rather than than real kind of talk of the issues that are going on at the club.
00:41:24
Nate
Yeah.
00:41:24
killianginnity
There has been rumblings of kind of a little bit of a boating of heads between Paul Mitchell and Eddie House since he came in.
00:41:32
Conor Glennon
Yeah, and and that's never good. like i mean it just it's I said it when the Ashford stuff was was starting off, like it was the worst time for that to happen.
00:41:43
Conor Glennon
Even if we got another year out of it, it would have made things so much easier.
00:41:43
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:41:47
Conor Glennon
Ashford left at the point where Like, bear in mind, we got to the Champions League far quicker than we should have or expected. Fans didn't expect it. Club didn't expect it. Manager didn't expect it. We got there. It was too much for us. Our squad was too thin. Our the quality wasn't there. So we kind of had this expectation from the media and the fans of, oh, we're a top four team. And we weren't anyway, but we definitely weren't if we didn't have Ashworth. Like you were telling me he would have signed the players we signed in the summer, please.
00:42:20
Nate
It was all planned mate, we were praying on your downfall.
00:42:25
killianginnity
And in fairness, like Newcastle half a stand beside Mitchell now donation, like the whole point of the sporting director is that he's outlast the coach.
00:42:25
Nate
But, yeah.
00:42:33
Nate
But is that the thing where they sort of panicked and went, oh, we'll take him.
00:42:37
Conor Glennon
I think it was.
00:42:38
Nate
You know what I mean?
00:42:39
Conor Glennon
He's got a good resume to be fair, but you know.
00:42:41
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:42:41
Nate
He does. We're werere looking around for him and us prayers and us praises he has been. But you wonder where they're just like, we need someone in there, let's get him.
00:42:52
Conor Glennon
Jesus, if Spurs wanted him, we should be bloody worried, Christ.
00:42:52
Nate
and
00:42:55
killianginnity
But he was at Spurs before.
00:42:57
Conor Glennon
Yeah.
00:42:58
killianginnity
ah He was there as a scout and then he ended up in Leipzig.
00:43:02
Conor Glennon
Yeah, like, I mean, he's he's got a crack in CV and like it look, I do think things like this on the flip side of what I've just said, he came into a situation that was, you know, pretty precarious.
00:43:02
killianginnity
um monical
00:43:13
Conor Glennon
So he's probably still finding his feet. So I think give him time. i I don't see how going before the end of the season, but I do think if we're like, look, we're not going down by any means.
00:43:25
Conor Glennon
We'll. I think I said at the start of the season, I'd imagine 9th maybe we'll grace well we'll get and whether that's enough for the board, I
Newcastle's Future Prospects
00:43:37
Conor Glennon
don't know.
00:43:37
Nate
Just a quick question. did When will Newcastle ever be able to splash the catch?
00:43:43
Conor Glennon
See, this is the most frustrating thing about it.
00:43:46
Nate
like
00:43:46
Conor Glennon
like for we For years, we had we were trying to find two Euro underneath the couch and pulling every favor we have. Then we get the richest owners in world football who definitely don't declare the real value that they have in the bank, and we can't spend it.
00:44:01
Conor Glennon
like I'm not looking for Mbappe here, but like give me someone better than Harvey Barnes, who has been playing well recently. I am aware, but like he's Harvey Barnes.
00:44:11
Nate
But like, it's just funny, like, state-backed Newcastle.
00:44:16
Conor Glennon
And we're mid-table fodder again, like...
00:44:17
Nate
But like,
00:44:20
killianginnity
You're not even getting your, like, Sanya, cliche, Adebayo generation.
00:44:22
Conor Glennon
We
00:44:24
killianginnity
You've just gone straight back to, oh.
00:44:26
Conor Glennon
got Lloyd Kelly and John Roddy-like.
00:44:27
Nate
but like will they but they ever be able to spend money? Like, what what's needed for that to be unlocked?
00:44:32
Conor Glennon
But this is what I don't understand because we had, apparently, 65 million to buy Gay Heave. That was the best offer we could form. We probably could have put another 10 million on top of that as to why we didn't do that. I have no clue. But why did we have 70 million available to us? Do all the financial gymnastics of getting the players out for PSO reasons to just not do anything. It's baffling.
00:44:55
killianginnity
See, I think where we all kind of underestimate is like, it took City a good while to, you know,
00:45:04
Conor Glennon
Took them at least five years to even make big moves.
00:45:07
killianginnity
Yeah, to get in a position to be able to do that. But while they were doing that, they were selling sponsorships to themselves. They were building their corporate assets. They were doing that kind of slow build. And I'd say that's all that's wrong with Newcastle now is they have to incrementally and by the book grow their sponsorship. So having like the Champions League thing.
00:45:27
killianginnity
will probably for next year, be better off where it's like, Oh, well, we've had European football now for a couple of years and we're a bigger club now. So our sponsorship is now, it's at a hundred million.
00:45:39
Conor Glennon
Well, it's like the Adidas deal is the prime example. Like we wouldn't, we wouldn't have got that.
00:45:41
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:45:43
Conor Glennon
Had we not gone on that run, you know?
00:45:45
killianginnity
Yeah. But wait until you're doing it with, with, um, companies are owned by your own owners.
00:45:50
Nate
seller.
00:45:50
killianginnity
That's where you're going to get the real benefits where you can get, instead of it being a hundred million, it'd be 160 and then you have the extra 60.
00:45:54
Conor Glennon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:54
Nate
Can't wait for that renewal with seller next year. It was definitely not owned by the Saudi government.
00:46:00
Conor Glennon
No, I think, I think there's another shell company we've never heard of that might give us a better offer.
00:46:06
killianginnity
Yeah, it'll be Alice or something, just to sell a 2.0.
00:46:09
Nate
Yeah.
00:46:13
killianginnity
Connor, do you think Hayu makes it to the end of the year?
00:46:16
Conor Glennon
I do. I really do. And to be honest, I mainly think that it is a case of the board don't want to be in a situation where they're scraping the barrel. and As long as we're not in a position where the club's are at risk of going down. um I don't see a reason why they wouldn't stick with them and then reevaluate in the summer when there's plenty of managers on the market. And, you know, who knows? Like ah one thing I've learned with the manager, managerial Mary go around is you really never know who's going to come available at the right time.
00:46:47
killianginnity
What do you think Nate?
00:46:49
Nate
I think he's gone. Christmas or after I think.
00:46:53
Conor Glennon
Right. Yeah.
00:46:55
Nate
I think they're going to try and get a fancy name in.
00:46:55
killianginnity
I agree. I think so. I think he'd be very lucky to make January.
00:47:01
Conor Glennon
Who's the fans?
00:47:02
killianginnity
and
00:47:02
Conor Glennon
What kind of caliber of fancy names? It's like, my my my dreams go to Zuzu, but that's never happening.
00:47:07
Conor Glennon
He's never living in Newcastle.
00:47:07
Nate
I think he's can pull off a decent name like a Nagelsman or something like i I do.
00:47:13
Conor Glennon
Really?
00:47:14
Nate
Yeah. I just
00:47:16
Conor Glennon
Jesus, I take that. Not that I want How God, I really do like the guy, but I didn't think we'd be in the world of Nagelsmann.
00:47:23
Nate
i think i think they're going to go on the name route where they
00:47:27
killianginnity
like you could like there like there is the likes of um javi you could go for javi oh javi has something to prove now don't forget
00:47:27
Nate
help you get sponsorship song
00:47:35
Conor Glennon
See all these names I think are too big because even, you know, to get my, he does. and And to get managers like that though, you need to have serious sponsorship income.
00:47:45
Conor Glennon
And yes, he'd bring that with them in some, or they would bring that with them in some part. But like the difference between Newcastle and the likes of London clubs or yeah, let's just focus on the London clubs.
00:47:52
killianginnity
two
00:47:58
Conor Glennon
It's like we're marketable to a point. you know, our ceiling is much lower than the London clubs of of how big the club can get financially, I think.
00:48:05
Nate
No,
00:48:07
Nate
no it's not no like he's got a huge fan base. He's got a huge stadium. You've got one of the biggest countries in the world or one of the most richest countries in the world back in years.
00:48:20
Conor Glennon
but ah yeah but i like
00:48:20
killianginnity
Yeah I think ah that's a really important point that you don't you're not like with Sunderland when Sunderland was looking to get a training base in London to try and attract these players.
00:48:27
Nate
yeah d
00:48:28
Conor Glennon
Yeah, take take out take out the the fact that we could we've we've got a wage bill that we can inflate for players.
00:48:28
killianginnity
yeah You have
00:48:35
killianginnity
and you will find ways of getting extra money into sponsorships and stuff. It's just going to take a few years and you guys have to grow up by the books. You will end up being able to spend money at some stage.
00:48:44
Nate
but also do you not think in five years time that or like within five years that said he started investing in new castle like to surround an area like like they have a lot of money to throw things so
00:48:58
Conor Glennon
Lads, we lost 3-1 to form. I'm feeling spicy as hell. Maybe when we ever ever win under a belt, we can we can we can come back on this one.
00:49:05
killianginnity
but I think there's one thing that City got underrated for doing that I think Newcastle will copy, which is but they'll invest in the academy early and then get lots of little bits of money by having players in and around, and the like of a Sancho kind of thing.
00:49:22
Conor Glennon
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:22
killianginnity
like yeah And I think that's where they can also get
00:49:27
killianginnity
So like, and Elliot Anderson, that again, but in a position where you're not forced to do it.
00:49:31
Conor Glennon
Yeah. I just don't like to see us doing those deals, like...
00:49:32
killianginnity
So like, Rabio, Rabio came through at City, technically.
00:49:36
Conor Glennon
ah yeah on paper.
00:49:38
killianginnity
Yeah. So like there is, there is a causes for, so I think is there in for a hard year? I think how will it be gone? Um, I think, I think Graham Potter is going to be in the Premier League by the end of the year.
00:49:51
killianginnity
I'm just not sure what colour. Um, and there's the obligatory weekly mention of Graham Potter.
00:49:55
Conor Glennon
It's been a while.
00:49:59
killianginnity
Um, that bombshell, that flu that's already nearly an hour. Thank you very much, Connor and Nate.
00:50:07
Nate
been a pleasure
00:50:07
killianginnity
We'll chat to you next week.
00:50:08
Conor Glennon
Bye-bye.