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84. Come Sail Away
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We need a vacation.
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Festive Cups and Environmental Change
00:00:21
Speaker
Hello, peeps. Hello. Hello, Molly. What's that you drinking? Water. Oh, it's just in a very festive cup.
00:00:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's a basically Day of the Dead or whatever. Mm-hmm. I can't remember the actual, the Dios, I don't know. If you know Spanish, it's ah basically a direct translation. Yeah. Dia de los Muertos. Yeah.
00:00:54
Speaker
Which I don't even speak Spanish, so. Yeah, I can never remember exactly how to say it the right way, and I don't want to fuck it up, so anyway. Yeah, it's ah it's a Tervis, for those in the know, what a Tervis is.
00:01:08
Speaker
Tervis Tumblr, and The lid is a little... that a brand? It is. okay All right. Well, back to our regularly scheduled programming. Of no longer spilling water on keyboards. Of, you know, recovering from that.
00:01:26
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, it's a cool Tervis. It's got um sugar skulls on it. And hu it's got a lime green lid. And there's a little hole that like you can open and close.
00:01:40
Speaker
Okay. And that and you can drink directly out of the lid. But I like a straw because it makes it easier. Like a sippy cup.
00:01:48
Speaker
Like a giant adult sippy cup. i what he How did you feel when Starbucks rolled out the like sippy cup lids years ago? um in the attempt to get rid of like or stop using as many straws.
00:02:04
Speaker
I don't know. i didn't like it. Yeah. And it's still, it's still not, I've gotten used to it, but it's still not my favorite. Yeah. I've never like, ive I haven't been a very consistent customer for very long to like, I mean, at first I think I kind of was like, cause then I was like, where do you put the straw? But I guess it does fit in the sippy cup hole.
00:02:31
Speaker
I mean, you're not supposed to use a straw. That's the point. is it Does it have a big enough hole for a straw, though? you can it kind of like You have to, like, mush it a little okay to fit. But it's not so you're not the whole point of them rolling out those lids was for people to stop using straws. Right. so it's Honestly, whenever I see someone who uses a straw with those lids, I like i immediately know that that they're an asshole. Yeah.
00:02:55
Speaker
you know okay thanks you're welcome but for real like it's it's like that was the point yeah but it's like i'd rather i don't know i'll do it because whatever the environment like save the turtles yeah but they do make straws that are like deep you know made out of so way so they can like decompose my my local taco bell does paper straws taco bell of all places
00:03:26
Speaker
yeah Everywhere else around here is just still doing plastic straws except for Starbucks. I mean, Starbucks still has their straws because like, you know, certain drinks do require them like Frappuccinos and stuff. But um but like the Dunkin' still does plastic straws. All the like other fast food around here does plastic straws. By the way, I'm not that big of an asshole because like I will bring in my straws and wash them out and put them in the recycle bin. So I don't know if that's helpful, but I try. It's good. It's good. I just mean like, you know, the ah average lay person who's just like, I still want to use a straw. I don't give a fuck.
00:04:10
Speaker
Fuck you and your like choices to try to save the environment. Starbucks, you know. Yeah. There were a lot of them bitching on the internet. I was like, was like, man, i don't love it. But at the same time, like, I got it. I understood. and I went along with it. It's just like another thing to adapt to.
00:04:30
Speaker
And there's just a lot of people out there in the world that are unwilling to adapt. Yep. Yep. Alas. Alas, my lass. you
Retirement and Travel Agent Aspirations
00:04:42
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um but yeah so anywho on that note uh we have a topic but it's like a non-topic topic because it is very casual and like very
00:05:00
Speaker
non-structured non-structured and non-serious I would say yeah I tend to think of a lot of our like like actual topics to be like the the denser ones or the heavier ones um particularly the ones pertaining to like spirituality and stuff um and yeah i'll admit like we've been sort of airing on the lighter side in general the last several months through the winter more often than not
00:05:35
Speaker
So, like, it is what it is, but we're we're hitting some light stuff again today. Yeah, why not? You want to you want to introduce it since it was your idea Sure. so as I've talked in the past about retirement and various ideas that I have for retirement,
00:05:56
Speaker
you know, what I'm going to do in retirement because I can't not work. um i have really been interested in learning the travel agent business. and so a couple of weeks ago, I signed up under a host agency. um And I just finally today started actually doing some training. Nice. Which do they have like, um is it like training that they're like company?
00:06:26
Speaker
gives you yeah nice yeah it's through them and it's right now i'm literally just learning like the program that they use to book um or and they i actually haven't gotten to actually booking but it's the process leading up to the booking which is setting up like itineraries like so like sample itineraries or like not sample but like actual vacations, like pricing, blah, blah. Right. So you give a few different options or however many options a person would like to have. And then you set them all up in an itinerary situation and you email them to a client and then they can like go through the options and choose what they like and you know, whatever. So I'm just learning how to use their like program or software or whatever you want to call it. It's actually a website. Like I, I would log in under this company's website, the host agency's website. And then there's like a menu you click on, on the left that has like, you know, the different things, the tools and whatnot. So, so yeah, I just started the process of learning that today. And it just started getting me on the whole thought about travel and vacations and stuff like that. And I think that you and I've talked about, that a bit in the past like maybe what our dream vacation might be or something we can't even remember i think we've spoken about it a bit we may have done a you mean like a top like on recording yeah yeah as a as a topic
00:08:07
Speaker
I don't remember doing any as a topic, which was the reason that I was like down for it now. Cause I was like, yeah, I don't think we talked about that. I feel like maybe we've touched on it. Maybe I'm like a bonus episode or something. Yeah. That that's possible. That it could be what it was. is what it Could be what it was. Yeah.
Cruising: Past Experiences and Future Plans
00:08:25
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um But anyway, I just thought we should talk about it because i know, you know, you have certain ideas about travel and vacations and I have, other ideas let's compare and contrast conflicting ideas yeah yeah um possibly yeah it's true um yeah do you want to start because like i can't like are you it's this is the thing you've been on vacations like actual vacations more recently than i have yeah i mean
00:09:04
Speaker
vacations is a relative term no listen and you're the one who like deliberately went on like cruises you know like yeah yeah but they turned out to be a lot of work for me just because of who i went with and whatnot but um yeah so they weren't quite vacationy to me like i didn't really get to relax it and no matter no matter where you go that's always what happens when you're a mom yeah yeah Yeah. So, yeah, I've been on two cruises now. It was always a dream of mine for a long time.
00:09:38
Speaker
um i guess I could do a whole little backstory about all that. But like my husband, his family went on a cruise and they never bothered to like ask him if he wanted to go along or us because we were together at the time. And like, yeah, they just planned a whole ass cruise of with everybody in the family, but they did not.
00:10:01
Speaker
try to include us so fucking lame so god yeah so so my husband was really like pissed about it and you know this happens kind of frequently with his family where he feels left out like not included and um i don't blame him for feeling that way because i think i would be too yeah um so then we you know in 2020 we took a trip down to Branson to visit with, um, my father's family that all, almost all lives down there at this point. They almost really almost are where where you and I went for Thanksgiving. Yep.
00:10:45
Speaker
Yeah. And one of my uncles there had been talking about, they had been wanting to plan like a family cruise. And, um he was telling me about they, you know,
00:10:58
Speaker
ah Like I had also, let me just like side note. I had also been watching some videos on YouTube from a specific YouTuber who did a lot of cruising and made a lot of really good videos actually um about the cruises that he took. And he is very good at editing and he's like got that radio voice because he actually used to work in radio. So like when he talks like over, you know, overdubs or whatever you call that. Yeah. The video, like,
00:11:27
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um narrates them. He has a really good speaking voice. So he's pleasant to listen to. um He's on the older side. So he's like chill and laid back. It's not like, you know, a younger person who's like, you know, wow ra ra like, Oh yeah, we did this. ah you know love but You know, it's not like that. It's like, that's not as annoying young energy and being like that. I'm in my middle age at this point, middle ages. um That it's nicer to listen to somebody who's just chill and more like, you know, this is why we loved this cruise line. And this is, you know, you know, what our cabin looked like. And, you know, here's the, you know, various excursions we took and blah, blah, blah. Like, know, actually informational rather than yeah like clickbaity. Yes. Yeah. And very enjoyable and relaxing. And so John and i my husband and I would be like, you know, it was like,
00:12:26
Speaker
either before my kid was born or short shortly after we started watching these. And think it was actually was after because Ha ha ha. It's funny how I just remember all these dumb details. um So my little boy liked trains back in the day. And so we started looking up YouTube videos for trains and, you know, model trains and every other kind of train. So this guy, this particular YouTuber made model train videos also. So that's how we first ran across him. And we went to his channel It was like interspersed with cruise, you know, cruise, cruising, YouTube videos, whatever you call it, cruising videos. um so we were like, huh, what's this all about? And so, even you know, my husband and I would like on the weekends, we would have ah a drink and sit on the couch and put on a couple of his videos and just pretend like we were on vacation with him. Like it was a very nice way to spend like a Friday night or a Saturday night and just chilling out, you know?
00:13:33
Speaker
We were learning stuff. We were like, oh, okay, that cruise line is, you know, they specialize in this or that or whatever. And so we were like, you know, in the whole, the whole mindset thing, the whole like, putting yourself there and feeling how it feels to do it and you know, whatever. That's how I was taking it. Like I was really getting into it and I was like, yes, this is going to, this is going to be me one day. I'm going to be on these cruises. I'm going to do this thing. Manifestation. Yes.
00:14:06
Speaker
So I was into the videos for that and, you know, also having a nice way to spend a weekend evening. yeah So, and then, you know, with, with my husband's family kind of like,
00:14:19
Speaker
not including him and stuff. It's like, he just, he was like real jealous. And you know, that whole thing that is the opposite of manifestation, you know? yeah Not surprising. Right. yeah So anyway,
00:14:33
Speaker
um so my uncle and Branson was like, we're planning on doing a family cruise. And then the pandemic happened and they couldn't do it. And they were talking about the um Carnival Cruise Lines new ship, the newest one at the time was the Mardi Gras.
00:14:51
Speaker
um And that's that's the ship that they wanted to book on and stuff. And so I started looking into it and stuff. I was kind of like, hmm, that's interesting. And then it was like, you know what? our Our anniversary was rolling around, our 10 year anniversary.
00:15:09
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And i was like,
00:15:14
Speaker
you know was like i'm gonna like figure this out we're gonna do this so i got in touch with a travel agent and it was like one that the guy the youtuber had referenced um that he uses a lot so i called them up and i ended up using another lady in their agency like in their office and so she was pretty helpful like um She, you know, gave us a quote and, you know, cause we wanted to do it during the week of our anniversary and blah, blah, blah.
00:15:47
Speaker
And so we went from there and did it. um It's kind of funny because one of, i think one of the travel agents jobs is to like notify the cruise line when there's like, you know, a specific event or I don't know what you call Okay, like okay it' so like an an anniversary or a birthday or something big, you know, is is happening. yeah They're supposed to like tell the cruise line because the cruise line will then do special things for that person or that couple or that whatever. So they could decorate your cabin with like anniversary decor or like 50th birthday or, you know, any of those kind of things. um
00:16:32
Speaker
And so anyhow, on the night of our anniversary, it was the craziest thing on this on this cruise. um We were just about to get into dinner.
00:16:43
Speaker
And I guess maybe we may have had an appetizer or something. and And suddenly my husband's stomach started malfunctioning. Oh, no. And he had to go back to the cabin. And so.
00:16:55
Speaker
Oh, no. Yeah. So I basically ate dinner by myself. And. The waiter who was like, he felt really bad. He was just like, I'm really sorry. You know, you're here by yourself. I was like, yeah, and it figures it's our 10th anniversary tonight. And he was like, what?
00:17:11
Speaker
I was yeah. He was like, they didn't tell me. Like, you know, like he didn't know. He wasn't informed and he felt like bad about it. And I was like, I didn't know that.
00:17:22
Speaker
they did anything like that anyways yeah like i didn't know that you guys were supposed to know about it like i didn't know you did something special for anniversaries so i'm not missing it i wasn't missing anything to begin with but when he did when he said all that i was like holy shit man and then it made me go like what the hell like why didn't our travel agent like either tell me i needed to notify the the cruise line somehow or do it herself i don't know but like that was very disappointing to find out after the fact but anyway that was ah That was our anniversary cruise. And then finally, the the family one that was postponed a couple of times finally got scheduled for like February of 2023. Right. so that was literally like a month shy
00:18:10
Speaker
of maybe a month and a half shy of a year from the first cruise. Right. So it was like within, you know, within one year. Um, so we did two cruises within a year, which is crazy, but, um, yeah I wouldn't have missed it because i am not, you know, I'm, I don't live near that family. I don't get to see them very much. i was like, I hadn't seen them in a long, long time. um And we did visit in 2020, but not everyone was there. yeah So there was people that I didn't get to see in 2020 that were going to be there and stuff. So I was like, hell yeah, I'm going.
00:18:48
Speaker
So that was awesome. um Anyway, so I will say i i like cruises, but they are work when you have a kid and when you have a husband who isn't necessarily into like doing as much work as you.
00:19:05
Speaker
Right. Sharing in the load. blah, blah. blah Anyway. yeah So you get the gist. Anyhow, yeah i was exhausted. And, you know, lucky man who was never exhausted the entire time got up early in the morning to be able to watch the sunrise on the top deck of the ship.
00:19:26
Speaker
And I would have loved to do that, but I was too tired to get up extra early. Like, no thanks. We just went to bed at 11 and 8 a.m. m I'm still tired when I wake up.
00:19:37
Speaker
That means I'm barely getting enough sleep as it was. Like I wasn't about to get up at 5 a.m. or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. No, thanks. um No, it wouldn't have been quite that early, but you know what I'm saying? yeah Yeah, I know. It was like, no, no, no.
00:19:52
Speaker
I can't do it. But um yeah, but he got to. And if I ever do a cruise again, it's going to be all girls, like all female friends. And that's it. Because we all can take care of ourselves and no children or husbands to be there to be taken care of.
00:20:12
Speaker
Yeah. And I won't join you. am just going to put, I mean, like you already knew, but I'm not, I'm not doing it. yeah I get it. You can't get me on a boat.
00:20:23
Speaker
I get it. Yeah. i i'll I'll do boats that don't leave sight of shore. m Like sailboats. Fine. Okay. I'm not going. I can't do the open ocean.
00:20:35
Speaker
i refuse. I will not. I cannot. Okay. So, yeah. Listen, I'd love to, like, experience a cruise if it just, like, hung out in a harbor. Yeah.
00:20:49
Speaker
It have to be docked, but at least like, you know, if I could swim to the shore, but that's fine. Dude. Oh my God. So we're talking if the damn thing sunk, I'm guessing.
00:21:02
Speaker
Well, if anything happened. yeah If there was any sort of emergency. If you fell off the side, you probably might not survive the fall. Just saying. Which I'm also not a fan of.
00:21:15
Speaker
Not a fan at all, dude. Pretty, you know, high up. I know. i know. um
Vacation vs. Retreat: Defining True Relaxation
00:21:22
Speaker
My family did a sailing trip my senior year of high school for spring break. Yeah.
00:21:31
Speaker
And I would actually consider that to be my last actual vacation because like every other time that I've traveled since then was, has been to visit family or to visit friends, ah which I'm, you know, like that's like, there's that's like vacation light. um But like, fuck, when we went to Missouri last Thanksgiving, that's the first time I've been to a new place Missouri.
00:22:01
Speaker
Just as long. Wow. Yeah. Like that's the first time. Yeah. First time I've been to a new state um and generally a new place. Like in how long?
00:22:13
Speaker
In since since I was in high school. OK. And like I guess in 2024 I had technically been to a new place. ah No, actually, no. 2023.
00:22:26
Speaker
Jesus. kiss I visited my friend who lives in the suburbs suburbs outside of Atlanta, Sierra. ah Famed first guest on their guest on our podcast after Anahata's 2024. was a bridesmaid in her wedding.
00:22:46
Speaker
ah And i've visited I had been to Georgia before, but I don't think I'd been to Atlanta before. um and not definitely not been to her town uh outside of atlanta so like that was a little bit new but i've been to georgia before but anahadas was new that's a there was a different state for you and stuff right no i've been to pennsylvania a billion times okay but it was a new location and a new experience by
00:23:17
Speaker
ah town within pennsylvania i've been to philly i've been to no i'm talking about the anahata's actual experience was a new thing but yeah but it's not and like a new place but you wouldn't call it a vacation either no that was a retreat okay Because there was like a specific purpose to it with like the, you know, spiritual mental health element, you know? Okay. um Like ah when I think of a vague, my definition of a vacation is like a complete break from everything, including self-improvement.
00:23:51
Speaker
Okay. That's cool. That's fine. Yeah. yeah Makes sense. um So I haven't had one of one of those since I was 17. Damn girl.
00:24:01
Speaker
I know. And it's like, that's honestly, it's like disappointing. Well, I, am okay. Yeah. Cause I've visited new places, but also like staying with friends and like visiting friends. So like, you know, when I was in college, I went to California and I saw, you know, los Angeles for like a weekend and like,
00:24:27
Speaker
excuse me I had never been to California before then, but I was visiting. i was going like to see it, but also to see friends. um you know And to stay stayed with them. And that's like part of the reason I choose those things is because it's like cheaper be able to stay with people. seriouslyly um like And I appreciate being able to stay with people. like It's really, really great. It's wonderful. People have been very kind to like host me. um
00:24:59
Speaker
But God, sometimes I just wish that I could like just stay in a neutral space in a hotel a new place and then like not even do anything.
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah. So... I have a proposition proposal, if you will. Uh, I'm not going to give a confirmation or response. You don't we have to, unless you know after you hear it and say, Oh yeah, definitely. um I have been wanting to do what they would call it like an all inclusive, it like type of vacation for a long time. Okay. Um, could be within the States could be elsewhere. I don't know, but, um,
00:25:42
Speaker
Basically, you fly to a place, you plant your ass in a really nice resort, and you can just hang out by the pool or whatever, get massages, have dinner, like just chill and do nothing, essentially. Like have a really close walk from your room to like the beach or, you know what I mean? Not have it be like where you have to like walk a long way or get a ride, you know, to get there. You know what? I want to just meander out from my little patio onto the beach. Yeah.
00:26:10
Speaker
yeah yeah like that kind of a vacation um where there's really no planning involved and no work you know yeah uh just go there and chill the fuck out so yeah if you're up for that kind of vacation i would love to plan something like that if i could ever afford it absolutely fucking lootly and when i say i don't want to do shit That's what I'm saying. So when you say all inclusive, it's like, I don't want to have to leave the grounds.
00:26:42
Speaker
Yeah. All you have to do is pack a suitcase and get your ass to the airport. Okay. Okay. If you can stomach figure it out going to an airport. If I can get somebody to drive me to an airport. Or Uber. Whatever.
00:26:57
Speaker
oh Can do it. Yeah. Well, anyway, point being. being I would do something like that. Absolutely. And I would do it. Honestly, I'd want it to be a longer than a week situation, which I know is like logistically char challenging to do for me and for you. um Because it's hard to take more than a week off ah in general from work. But like, especially for me, my work situation is stupid. um
00:27:31
Speaker
Yeah. But I would want to do that because like, I feel like it would take me at least a week to like, stop being like in panic mode. you know You might be surprised. Not panic mode about traveling, just panic mode about life.
00:27:48
Speaker
I understand. I'm just saying you might be surprised because the environment change would be so dramatically different that you might be able to get into that headspace a little quicker than you think. It's true. um But, you know, the cool thing is that now that I'm going to be more privy to like seeing what kind of things are out there, um i could keep my eyes open for something yeah that's ah that could fit our needs and maybe be a couple of years out and we can like take time to pay for it. Like, you know, over time. True. That kind of thing.
00:28:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. i yeah I agree. I think that's a good idea. And like, it's not to say that I would never want to go on a vacation where I actually like go out and see things and like do things and experience things like that's not outside the realm of possibility. It's just like.
00:28:40
Speaker
If I'm going to actually get like some R&R, need to be free from those expectations. Yes. And like I grew up in a family that that was the only option.
00:28:54
Speaker
It was what are we doing next? Where are we going? Who are we seeing? Like what's the next activity? go What's our plan? We need to be doing something every single day, which is the worst.
00:29:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. absolutely and honestly it's it's it sucks because it's like i've had such great experiences because i was you know dragged along like i've i've done some really cool shit but like i'm tired man yeah yeah yeah and that's what i'm saying about the cruise honestly it was like you you constantly have to be going somewhere like if we're meeting up with the family that we were cruising with you know Like they were going to be going to this place or that place, or there was an excursion. And like, honestly, because of our physical condition and the way I, like, I have personally been
00:29:47
Speaker
like walking off the cruise ship and walking to the port, it's a long ass walk yeah more than you would realize. And like, it's, it's exhausting. It was physically exhausting. and It was not in shape for that. And then walking on the cruise ship was physically exhausting because the goddamn things are humongous. Yes.
00:30:07
Speaker
It's like a city on water, honestly, honestly God. So if you're like, on every single deck of that ship walking around looking at stuff because different decks have different things, you know, like, yeah, it's exhausting. I didn't even get to see half of the ship but either. Probably either of the two probably did not get to see half of either of them because they were just so big and hard to walk.
00:30:33
Speaker
Yeah. You know, we went to where we needed to go and then maybe we went and explored one other or two other areas or something of the ship. And that was about it. It was like, fuck. You know, the first ship we were on, we were in the very back of the ship.
00:30:47
Speaker
So everywhere we had to go was like a long walk and just to get to the elevators and shit, you know? what Yeah. So it's it it was exhausting. um And so, yeah, going on excursions off of the ship were really long and tiring. a lot of walking. Yeah.
00:31:08
Speaker
if i got in better shape i don't want do any of that yeah i wouldn't be opposed to it in the future but like not in the shape i'm in now i'm worse now than i was then so yeah and so like that's another another reason well like regardless of what kind of vacation it would that would be another reason to like plan it like a couple years out because it would give us the opportunity to sort of like recondition ourselves and maybe get in ah at least a little better shape you know yeah just get some walking in every day would help yeah um but like also like ah there is so i don't remember
00:31:51
Speaker
forever ago i i know it's been forever like i cannot remember the specifics of what this like particular company was called but there was like a like a travel company that planned trips to scotland um And, but like, it might have been, it might not even been a company. It might have just been like a, like a group. I can't remember. There was one in particular that I saw that I was like, oh my God, I wish that I could afford that. it would have been so cool. that It was planned for 2020 and it I saw it in 2019. So that was never going to end up happening. um
00:32:35
Speaker
But it looks fucking cool as hell because it was like a witchcraft spiritual tour of Scotland. oh yeah baby and like it was like obviously you saw the like big sites of like the castles and everything but you went to like spiritual sites you went to like where they had like the standing stones and the like little um sacred like groves and fountains and like the springs and things like that sweet I'm just like, it was like, know, it was like a group that you would do something. I can do some digging.
00:33:11
Speaker
i mean, I wish I can't remember. i can't remember. Like, who did it? It doesn't matter. yeah I know that other groups, like I've seen other similar things put on by certain people. And like, it's just like, you know, there's a trip that's being planned. it's It's like a trip that's being planned and there's like 12 slots and like people buy the slots and there's a person that's guiding. I think that what you are talking about was a TikTok that we saw. No, this was in 2019. wasn't watching TikTok back then. Instagram? this was I think I saw it through like Facebook.
00:33:46
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Okay. But like, I don't remember telling you about it or anything. I just remember looking at it and like wistfully like being like, I wish I had four. Because I do remember seeing something like that on social media where they were just like, this is like a witchy retreat thing. And it was like, yeah, it was, a you know, a certain number of people could go and that was it. Yeah. Like I said, I've seen stuff like that since then, but it was like the first time i ever saw anything like that. Yeah.
00:34:14
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And i was just like, oh, again, it's too expensive. Everything that is not like going to stay with a friend or a family member is too expensive. Yeah. you know and i hate it i'm just like i'm forget like never being able to retire i'm never gonna be able to go on a vacation like a real vacation you just have to plan a ahead dude i yeah but also like i literally am like living paycheck and this is not i we we shouldn't get into this um like point being if we're gonna talk about vacations like i have to think about it in hypotheticals and then maybe pretend like maybe someday
00:34:55
Speaker
It'll happen. Well, that's how I made the cruises happen because I never thought I could afford those. You literally sold your blood. I did. i did. i did. i i donated a plasma and saved up a... I'm trying to remember how much I saved up.
00:35:12
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somewhere Somewhere between $2,000 and $3,000. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Alas. But the second one, I didn't do that.
00:35:25
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They have like the cruise lines. If like you booked, I booked directly through carnival with the second one. I didn't use a travel agent for the second one at all. um And then when you, you know, put down a down payment and sometimes you can get really good down payment deals. Like they'll say like $50 down. It was like real easy. And then you can like finance it through,
00:35:53
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Yeah. Like those different, um not like Klarna, but there's other ones that have like a small interest rate with them or something. Like, I can't remember what the name of the one was that I used for Carnival, but um I think I was able to find an option that was zero interest if I paid it off within 12 months. So it was like, nice i spread out the payments over 12 months and paid it off, made a like $160 a month payment on that or something.
00:36:22
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Yeah. It was doable. Yeah. Yeah. So there are ways. they' just have to be willing to look at them. Yeah. And I will say like, there is like certain, there are certain vacations that I actually do want to go on that I'm not just like telling myself I want to, because it's more accessible. Certain ones that like are ah are more accessible. um And therefore and affordable i mean um like such as i've never been to maine still and i would love to go to maine and i would love to just like find and rent a cabin in maine maybe like a cabin by a lake you know um so like an airbnb kind of deal yeah or just like you know there are like cabin campground type places and you just like go and rent okay through them and but there's tons of those
00:37:21
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um i'd even go camping really if i if i felt so inclined um i don't hate it i would just need like a nice uh i guess i have an ear matt ear mattress but like and i guess i need like a little I don't know.
00:37:45
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Some people would consider it like too extra to like bring an entire whole queen size air mattress. I did it. I would need a tent than the one I have to be able to do that. And I would need a way to fill the air mattress up that didn't require like a literal... Well, like some yeah some campsites have electrical access and like, you know, the queen size mattress that I air mattress that I have um plugs in and you fill it up in in like two minutes. It's really quick.
00:38:18
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right yeah no mine's too yeah yeah you have an electric fill up one yeah but you have to plug it directly into the wall yeah it has to be plugged into something sure right um but mine's like the nice tall ones and so it would almost be like just like in being in a normal bed is it a twin or is it a queen it's a queen that's tall yeah wow Yeah. good I like it.
00:38:47
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who um I've not slept on it. I've just had it for guests, but it works. It's, it does a great job. um But yeah, like,
00:38:59
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But I wouldn't, like I don't know. I, yeah, I might go for like an Airbnb or so like anything, anything that I can find that's affordable to be able to go. and then like, again, go and then like not even do much.
00:39:15
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You know, like Are you talking about going by yourself or do would you want someone to come with you? ah Either, both. Whichever, whatever's easier. um Probably more likely by myself.
00:39:28
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Although I'd be a little afraid in the woods in Maine. Have you seen a Alone? ah Have you seen every Stephen King story, novel, or movie ever? oh my god. Maine is scary. but You're crazy.
00:39:46
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Yeah. you're crazy I know. But also it's true. Oh my god. It's where the it was where Appalachia starts. It's where the Appalachian appalachian Mountains begin. Yeah.
00:39:59
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Up at the top. Up up up north. um But yeah. like i Like I could manage that.
00:40:09
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It would still break my bank. But I could manage it. You know? Why are you laughing at me? Why are you laughing at me? I don't know. I'm just saying, like, once you start looking at numbers, it's not hard to, like, you know, budget for it.
00:40:25
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Yeah, but Airbnbs are still expensive. Sure. You know, like, for for that reason alone, I might bring someone with me just to be able to share the cost. um You know, but, like. Is it close enough that you would drive yourself there?
00:40:38
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Oh, 100%. That's part of the reason. Yeah. Well, it depends because Maine is also a huge state. It's way bigger than people think. Yeah. So, like. as big as Michigan or bigger. Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:48
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And so and it's mostly empty. So it' would probably be like closer to like Southern Maine that I would opt for because that's also the more populated areas anyway. More likely to find Airbnbs or anything worth, you know, going and staying or going and checking out.
00:41:04
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um But also like easier to drive to like I'd say like so but actually I'm just going to look real quick. Portland, Maine, which is like, obviously like a one of the biggest towns in Maine cities is who closer. i guess it's kind of late in the evening. Closer than I thought.
00:41:31
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Only two hours and 18 minutes to drive to Portland, Maine. That's not bad. Yeah, not bad at all. um If I were to one place I do absolutely want to go to. At some point, even though it's like such a huge tourist, not tourist trap, but like it's swamped and therefore more expensive is Bar Harbor.
00:41:56
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And that's five hours and one minute away. Okay. Yeah. um Remind me again where that is. Further up the coast in Maine, it's... ah it's an island okay it's where acadia national park is ah acadia national park is ah famed for lots of things but one of which is the fact that in october it becomes the place where you the sunrise touches
00:42:33
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like the continental u.s s for the first time in bar harbor like it's famed for its sunrises okay particularly in fall and so like that's where it gets tricky because to want to do to be able to want to do that which i do want to do that You have to be able to go see the sunrise and somehow find parking because it's swamped with people all wanting to see the sunrise. Gotcha. um
00:43:04
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Yeah. h so but I like, I would, you know, not just necessarily go to the one main spot that everybody loves, but be happy to see the sunrise in general.
00:43:16
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Yeah. Yeah. Over the ocean. You have a cousin in Maine. i do have a cousin in the Maine, your cousin. Yeah. And another cousin in Vermont.
00:43:27
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True. True. Yeah. yeah And Vermont wouldn't be a new place, but it's another place that I would, you know, also check out for like cabins or something. Yeah. You know, Hey, are you looking at vacations now? No, I'm looking at a map.
00:43:44
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Oh, okay. like Are you looking at Airbnbs? No. Okay. No, I was just just looking at the general area because my my geography skills are bullshit. Non-existent.
00:44:00
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Yeah, I'm always looking at maps. yeah Always, always, always, always. I open maps for no reason whatsoever except for to look at a place. Yeah, so I'm seeing... like so i First I looked to see how long is the drive for me to Portland, Maine. And if I drive through canada um part of the way it's 12 and a half hours if i do the expensive toll roads if i decide to add an hour and 20 minutes i can save like 23 dollars stupid but yeah yeah yeah yeah so the quickest way is 12 hours 12 and a half i mean 12 and a half hours Yeah. I mean, if you were to come out to do that with me, I'd say come to my place and then we just take one car.
00:44:52
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Yeah. could fly, I guess, but I, I just wouldn't be able to bring my own supplies. If I fly, I'm not saying fly. I'm just saying drive to my place and then, and then we'll take one car rather than like drive all the way out to meet me at the place. Okay. something saying Of course. um But anyway, ah Yeah, I also would love to go north and just drive north.
Exploring Unconventional Travel Destinations
00:45:23
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To where? As far as I can go. Into Canada? Yeah. Okay. you Remember my whole thing about, like... Tom, well, the joke that Tom has about whether the fact that I might have been a like, Arctic explorer in a past life.
00:45:41
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Maybe. i don't know. And my, like, weird fascination with, like, the northernmost areas of the Earth that you can travel to. i would love to visit Svalbard. Okay.
00:45:55
Speaker
I really would. That's Iceland? No, no, Norway. Norway? Okay. Svalbard... My bad. I have talked about Svalbard a hundred times. You're going to be all... I know. I just can't remember the names of the cities. I'm sorry. Names are not my thing. um It's where the Cecilia who lives on Svalbard, an island close to the North Pole, is. It's an island close to the North Pole. Okay. um The town is technically a village where she lives. It's called Longyearbien. Okay. Longyearbien.
00:46:27
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okay long year um And it's very much the kind, like if I were to travel to Svalbard, it would have to be like fly to
00:46:41
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probably Amsterdam first and then Oslo and then Svalbard. Or fly Oslo and then Tromsø and then Svalbard. So you've looked into that before. i have. I've looked it up. There are certain times of the year and certain weeks that um And certainly days of the week where flights to Svalbard are like $500 or,
00:47:08
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um or you know, in the 500 range and then times when they're like $4,000. And so like, it's possible, but then I would need to spend money on, you know, the hotel the whole time I'm there. and Yeah. You know, and that's one of the places where I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't be okay with just like, staying put.
00:47:33
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Because you svalbard you go to Svalbard to like do activities. Yeah. You go to Svalbard to snowmobile. You go to like potentially see a polar bear, although you're not supposed to seek them out. um I hope not. But like, yeah, you go to see the nature. You go to see like just the marvel of being that far north. It's crazy.
00:47:56
Speaker
Mm hmm. you oh that was just a cough but thank you oh sorry it sounded like a sneeze um and you know like in particular i would i'd want to go during probably polar night or at least like go like when it's like sinking into polar night is that when it's day all all day long Daylight all day long?
00:48:26
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It's when it's nighttime all day long. Okay. um Polar day when it's daytime. Okay, sorry. it's okay. um But like, I'd want to do that because i that obviously is it increases the chances of seeing ah Northern Lights. aha And that, I have a very, very, very, very short bucket list, but Northern Lights is on it. I want to see them.
00:48:51
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Dude, for sure. yeah And you can see them in Canada, which is also why I'm like, you know, I could just drive north and probably see them. You could come here and we could go up north in Michigan and you could see them.
00:49:04
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True, true, indeed. Up north in Michigan is really beautiful. Yeah, yeah. I would be down for that. For sure.
00:49:15
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But yeah, like it's, it's a, it's a dream. And then, you know, the other thing on my bucket list because it's a two item bucket list is to be able to like pet a tiger oh my so i'd have to go to like india for that probably wow i don't know probably not i don't know where you might be able to figure her find a zoo that will allow that kind of thing true but also like you know but it'd be cool to go to india
00:49:49
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Yeah, I would like to go there. I literally just saw a TikTok like last night talking about like, you know, here's how long it takes for me to, you know, get get from my house to the Taj Mahal. And it was like, you know, just like step by step, like leaving his apartment in New York and all the public transit he takes through New York to get to the airport. And then the airport takes him all the way to Dubai Dubai.
00:50:16
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dubai and then mumbai or just mumbai i don't know it's close it's you know it wouldn't be surprising if there was and a layover in dubai but i think he ended up in mumbai and then it was like a four-hour drive and then he when he got there it was like 2 a.m was like it doesn't open until 8 a.m so i have to like go to sleep now And where was he going to again? to the Taj Mahal. Okay, okay. And i would I would love to see that.
00:50:48
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It'd be really cool. it's Yeah, vacationing even just yeah might be cheap. Even just like looking at photos of the Taj Mahal, it looks incredible. And so like I think if I were to see it in person, I might cry. Aww.
00:51:04
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Because beautiful things make me cry. I'll cry when I see the Aurora. For sure. i cried when I saw it like the eclipse. Yeah. hey I think that um it's not hard to make me cry. Yeah.
00:51:20
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I mean, I can totally see that. Certain things made me cry. Yeah. yeah You know? Well, it's just like, yeah, beautiful things evoke emotion in me.
00:51:31
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Mm-hmm. So the Taj Mahal is no different. Mm-hmm. So it'd be cool to see that. It'd be very, very cool. there's a lot of places in Europe I'd want to go see but again it'd be like the kinds of vacations that I would need to be like ready to just do a lot of walking which I'm not ready to do yeah so I'll get there but one thing at a time first thing I gotta worry about is cost so you know anyway what about you what about you dream vacations I don't know dude I'm sure I will figure something out with the new uh
00:52:10
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you know vocation. Well, here's the thing is that what you're going to do is just want to go everywhere because you'll just find out about everything that's cool and you'll want to go to everything. Yeah.
00:52:20
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and So you're not going to be able to narrow it down. Yeah. My
Reflections on Hawaii and Family Adventures
00:52:25
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Libra, my Libra will definitely not allow me to do that. It already isn't basically. So yeah. I mean, there's always been the dream of going back to Hawaii because we did live there when I was a child for a short time.
00:52:41
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um So I would like to go back there. But I know that it's also become such a huge tourist trap that they're and just destroying the islands now. Yeah, it's like, it's like, ah yeah, i was gonna say, it's not even like necessarily that it's a trap, I think, but more so that it's like,
00:52:58
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It's just no longer what it used to be. Right. The authenticity is gone. or go magic is gone. Which sucks because it really is a magical place.
00:53:10
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Yeah. ah I've been. I've went when I was in fourth grade. And then when I was a sophomore in high school. to Hawaii?
00:53:21
Speaker
Hawaii. Wow. How much do you remember? Kauaii. Um, not a ton from the first, from the first time we went, I only remember a few things. Like I remember that it rained a ton for like several days in a row. And then the parking lot was flooded, um, of where we were staying, but it was fun because we would like went out and like the water was like more than ankle deep. And so we were just like running around and splashing in the ankle, in the ankle or shin deep. Um,
00:53:55
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ah rainwater flooding the parking lot oh my goodness um and that like may or may not be related because you know with all the rain it was likely that it's what made the stairs slippery but I remember my mother slipped on the stairs coming down from our where we were staying and got like this big of a bruise on her ass oh pain she bruises really easily but like it was it was pretty rough oh how Yeah.
00:54:26
Speaker
So she was always like for the rest of the trip, she was like sitting like basically sideways on the other cheek. Oh my God. He's sneaking up again. Okay. um So like, that's the main thing I remember. and I remember going to dunes in addition to the beach, like in Hawaii okay from, from when I was in fourth grade, when I was older we were visiting a guy that my mom was dating, um who lived there and he taught us or tried to teach us, tried to teach me. My brother succeeded. I didn't at surfing.
00:55:09
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Um, it's very, very hard to surf. Yeah. Um, it's hard to even just stand up and like ride a wave straight on with like, let alone try to like go sideways. Um,
00:55:22
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So I did not do a great job, but, you know, it was still fun. Body surfing might be the way. Yeah, like boogie boarding. Absolutely. um But yeah. And then also during that trip when I was a sophomore, I scuba dived. Yeah.
00:55:41
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Yeah, with a very cute boy. who was that he was technically 19, but like he was super cute. And I was scared as hell because I don't actually like deep water, as we know. But he told me he'd hold my hand.
00:55:58
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And then it calmed me down. ah And he held my hand and I saw fishes. Nice! That's cool. It was pretty magical. It was really great. I've actually never done that. Oh, really? No, never done it. yeah. This is what I mean, though. Like, when I say, like, even though it sucks to feel like you have to be, like, running around doing things all the time in certain, you know, types of people that make up a family. Yeah. You know, the people that don't want to ever stop.
00:56:29
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ah Like, it's because of them that I've been able to say that I went scuba diving. Mm-hmm. You know, or like, you know, when i my family visited Morocco when I was 14 and like camel.
00:56:43
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i ro a camel amazing it was pretty cool it was pretty cool but like again it's just like you know I i got to do these things and now I'm like ugh but like it's cool to be able to say that I've done those things and also it'd be cool to do more things like that but maybe I just like need to have energy yeah energy and endless money there is one thing I did that i actually thought of earlier um
00:57:15
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that I should probably mention that is significant enough to mention. um When I went to visit my grandma in Florida, um we were going to be on a beach or something for a while. And like, we were able to book me a parasailing thing. Isn't that where you're attached to the ship? The boat, you're attached to the boat. It's a big long cord and you're attached to it. Parasailing. Parasailing.
00:57:43
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I'm pretty sure that's what that was. i don't know, but I know that like you can also like water ski that way. Well, I was way up in the air, in the water. I wasn't skiing. I've never seen that or done that, so I don't really know. Let me Google and make sure I'm saying the right thing.
00:57:59
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okay You could be. I just have never tried it or seen it done. Yeah. yeah Okay. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's what it was. Parasailing. Yeah. It's like it's like a parachute.
00:58:11
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that you're hanging from and then you trying to remember how it even fucking worked but like what it's what wikipedia says parasailing also known as parasending is an activity where individuals are harnessed to a modified parachute canopy that is designed to ascend into the air when towed behind a boat um a motor vehicle land or recreational boat over water commercial parasailing operations can be found worldwide with customized power boats blah blah so yeah i was like in a harness situation hanging from a para parachute um over the water and that's pretty sick it was attached to the boat because
00:58:57
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If the wind wasn't strong enough, the boat could move and make wind for you. yeah But this boat decided to plant its ass in one spot because the wind was strong enough it was holding me up without having to move.
00:59:11
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And then I started getting really fucking scared. Because I started of feeling like I could fall at any moment and I just started having a panic attack. So it wasn't good. was hanging there and just not able to do anything about it so yeah but i at least i did it yeah and they start reeling like they have the reel on the back of the ship and they start like you know winding yeah the cord back down that you're attached to and it pulls you down wow yeah yeah that's a fun that's terrifying and i don't think i would enjoy it
00:59:48
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Oh my god. Especially because like i like i never you know, obviously like I mentioned water skiing it's like similar if you're you know doing that with like a moving boat, but like um i was tried like my family tried to get me to water ski i could never fucking manage it it's really hard and i had a lot or like in my youth i had a lot of upper body strength and even even then it was like really really fucking hard yeah my dad was an amazing water skier
01:00:23
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um But like, I couldn't, i could never do it. But I enjoyed um tubing behind a boat. Oh, yeah. I'm sure I would too. Yeah. yeah Yeah. I did enjoy that a lot when I was young. Does shoot does watershutot straight up your cooch?
01:00:39
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No.
01:00:42
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Okay. Not in the tube. If your butt's hanging in the hole of the tube, I would assume if you're going fast enough, the water would just be like straight up the cooch. Usually, usually... what you're in is not like an open donut hole tube okay but like a tube encased in like a can't like a like a thick like sport fabric vinyl okay vinyl or like it you know it was like actual fabric but like hmm I don't know. It depends. But, like, basically, you could be ensconced within, like, an encasement. Okay. that' Okay. or Or, like, a flat, wide, blown-up thing that doesn't have a hole in the middle. Like a raft situation? Yeah, like a raft.
01:01:32
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Interesting. Like, I have done that, too. And I... the Depends what kind of experience you want to have.
01:01:44
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but you know, and also who's driving the boat because goddamn certain people just love to troll. um this When I was like a freshman, i think in high school, ah i was like a church activity at a lake. And we like,
01:02:00
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and um we like ah The stake president had a big speedboat and he had these two raft sized tubes that he would attach and drag simultaneously behind his boat.
01:02:19
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And it could fit like four on each four people on each tube. Wow. Raft. a Large. And so he would start going and there'd be, you know, eight people total. And then the activity that everybody loved to do was to like jump between the tubes, like jump across and switch places, which I was just like not having any of that. So I was like ensconced at the very end of like.
01:02:45
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like one side far away from the other one. And at one point when I, when, when this, all this was happening, um like there was like three or four other like 18 year old boys that ended up on the tube with me. And then we hit a bump in a certain way that our tube flew up in the air. We all got launched off the tube. ah I landed in the water first and then person,
01:03:14
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like 18 year old boy landed above me pushing me deeper and deeper into the lake shut up oh my god that's terrifying it was horrifying it was so scary oh but not fun story to tell But you got yourself up to the surface. I did. i did. But it was like, you know, I literally felt their bodies like, bo like we stacked on top of each other. with oh my Lord. ah
01:03:46
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awful that is scary. du but It's really scary. But that's the problem. Like, that's the thing about the raft style is that, like, you hit a bump or a wave the wrong way.
01:03:58
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and everyone's gone. Wow. Yeah. No, thanks. Yeah. No, that's why I like the ones that do have the hole and you can just sort of like tuck yourself in and just be along for the ride.
01:04:12
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there, are there handles to like hold on to? Yeah. oh yeah. Good. You hold on to the handles, but your like feet and legs are like tucked inside the like fabric casing of the, of the tube. Okay. Sometimes getting sucked a little bit in because of how fast you're going, but it's pretty fun.
01:04:30
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Yay. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I remember this one time my family, now I'm talking my mom and my stepdad and me and my brother, we went up North and um stayed probably in the condo that my grandma used to own up there. But um we rented a pontoon boat for one afternoon And it was so fun and relaxing. Yeah, pontoon boats are super chill. Oh my god, it was so nice. And we had a home video camera at the time. And like, we took videos of that. And my grandma was watching them.
01:05:13
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like with us one time after the fact and she commented like you just look so relaxed there and I was like you know what you're right I was i don't get relaxed very easy but I was like that's what vacations do yeah right that's what they're supposed to do right right but I think I was probably around 15 14 15 that age range and uh yeah I just remember that and I had this fucking white one piece bathing suit I don't know I just want to remember that yeah I mean yeah it had a good lining in it so you can't see through it but yeah as it should uh-huh but still yeah white anything for me is risky yeah that was fun i would do that again
01:06:07
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Yeah, pontoon boats are good. Yeah.
Visualizing Future Travels
01:06:13
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One of the uncles down in Branson has pontoon boat. I think they share it. Why is that not surprising? think two of them share it together own it together. One of my uncles in Mississippi had one. I'm not sure if he still does.
01:06:29
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But my my granny lives right on a reservoir. Her backyard. i is up against a reservoir. So it used to be docked at her house and we could get on the pontoon boat, go down the reservoir, like go across, like, yeah, basically go across the reservoir up to ah one of my favorite restaurants down in Mississippi.
01:06:54
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called cock of the walk where all that you can order is giant platters of fried chicken or giant platters of fried catfish oh my god oh my god or giant platters of fries and then the sides are like collard greens coleslaw cornbread fried pickles dude you know what that was my introduction to fried pickles was that restaurant actually yum yum but yeah we used to be able to take the pond pontoon boat out there so this is really funny and somewhat related to what you just said okay like a year after my wedding we took a honeymoon we didn't do the honeymoon that like the day after or the week after the wedding we did it a year later um
01:07:46
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And we went up north in Michigan. We went to actually Mackinac Island, um which is like no cars are allowed on the island. Right. So you take a ferry boat across to it.
01:07:58
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Anyhow, we stayed in a bed and breakfast, which is like an old historic mansion that got turned into a bed and breakfast. Beautiful. And we were walking around, went in this one little shop.
01:08:12
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for like bo food or whatever like a kind of like a grocery store ish thing and they had these soup packet soup mix packets that were called cock soup I shit you not.
01:08:25
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I have pictures of it. i would Like chickens. I mean, obviously that's what the restaurant was meaning as well. Right. ah but that's not yeah yeah yeah It's also a phrase.
01:08:37
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Right. you know Yeah. yeah But um I guess it was an import from the Caribbean somewhere that they had gotten these mixes, these packs, soup packs.
01:08:49
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But yeah. This has been fun. Almost as fun as an actual vacation. yeah Yeah, dude. I recommend going on YouTube and looking up stuff that you would like to do and just watching cool, chill videos and relaxing and in watching and pretending like you're there.
01:09:10
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It's fun. Yeah. If that's what you're into, then you should do that. I have a tendency to just get sad. i can't do it because I can't afford it yet. But, you know. It's all about putting your mind in that place, though. You've got to start somewhere.
01:09:25
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Yeah, I know. I'll get there. Listen, I can't do everything all the time. I'm too tired. Anywho. ah Yeah.
01:09:37
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So I don't even know how to wrap this up. That's it. That's all we got, folks. That's all we got. It's the end of a long week and I'm ready to stop existing and collapse into the void. Oh my goodness. All right, but don't worry. I still exist and it'll be fine.
01:10:01
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We'll all be fine. you Anyway, we hope you guys have enjoyed listening to our ramblings ah as per usual.
01:10:12
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And yeah, check out our socials, credentials, ways to enjoy other stuff of ours in the description. We're not going to get into details because I'm tired. ah And we will...
01:10:31
Speaker
Be back again next week.