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Dame Dash’s Meltdown, Ben & Jerry’s Fallout & a Kid’s Sign
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Dame Dash’s Breakfast Club meltdown, Jerry Greenfield’s decision to step away from Ben & Jerry’s, and a hilarious — and telling — viral story about a 5-year-old’s “Keep Out” sign: this week on Unsolicited Perspectives your hosts Bruce Anthony and Jay Aundrea unpack toxic masculinity, brand activism, corporate control, and real parenting boundary hacks with equal parts heat and heart. Expect candid pop-culture analysis (Dame Dash interview breakdown), the inside scoop on why Jerry Greenfield says Ben & Jerry’s voice is being muted, plus practical tips for handling a kid who’s testing limits — and a lot of sibling chaos. #BenAndJerrys #DameDash #parentingtips #raisingkids #unsolicitedperspectives
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives 🎙️🔥
00:47 Sibling Happy Hour: Sips, Laughs & Sibling Shenanigans 🍹😂
02:58 Dame's Wild Claims: Revolt TV Drama & Dental Disasters 😬🦷
04:43 Sexual Harassment Scandal: Dame's Shocking Movie Set Behavior 🎬⚠️
07:46 The Real Meaning of 'Triggered': Not What You Think! 🎯🤔
11:27 Adrian Broner Gets Kicked Off Camera: The Full Story 🥊👋
15:03 Reformed Creep Chronicles: A Decade of Change 😅🔄
20:27 Ben & Jerry's Drama: Ice Cream & Activism Collide! 🍦✊
23:01 The Price of Speaking Out: Ben & Jerry's Co-Founder Exits 🚶♂️💔
27:00 Corporate Control vs Social Justice: The Ice Cream Battle 🏢⚖️
30:12 Ice Cream Wars: Strawberry Dreams & Family Feuds! 🍓🍦
40:24 Kids and Their Quirks: The Keep Out Sign Story! 🚫✍️
43:40 Teaching Boundaries: When Your 5-Year-Old Gets Sneaky! 🤫🔍
49:23 The Batmobile Birthday Betrayal: A Sibling Con Story 🦇😈
52:06 Kitchen Nightmares: When Kids Get Too Independent 🔪😱
54:51 Final Thoughts: Always Ask Questions! 🤔💭
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Transcript
Introduction and Identity
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Speaker
companies suppressing speech and children growing their own identity. We're going to get into it. Let's get it.
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Speaker
Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is Unsolicited Perspectives. I'm your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society. Join the conversation and follow us wherever you get your audio podcasts. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for our video podcasts, YouTube membership, and YouTube exclusive content.
00:00:37
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Rate, review, like, comment, share. Share with your friends, share with your family, hell, even share with your enemies.
Sibling Happy Hour
00:00:45
Speaker
On today's episode, this is the Sibling Happy Hour. I'm here with my sis, J. Andrea.
00:00:50
Speaker
We're going to be dilly-dadding a little bit. Then we're going to be talking about that great ice cream, Ben & Jerry's. And then we're going to be talking about children. When they start showing that personality. But that's enough of the intro.
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Speaker
Let's get to the show.
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Speaker
What up, sis? What up, brother? I can't call it. I can't call it.
Analyzing Dame Dash
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Speaker
You already told me off air as we were discussing before we jumped on that you had not seen this Dame Dash interview on The Breakfast Club yesterday.
00:01:25
Speaker
Right. I haven't seen it. I ran up on it, but I haven't actually seen it. um But you are familiar with Dame Dash's work. Yes. He was full-on asshole like he hasn't changed in years and there was something that bothered me as i was watching the interview like i was joking around with my boys but it it really started to bother me so dame walked into the interview and he was like hey i want to set some boundaries y'all let me finish speaking because when you cut me off that triggers me and i was like oh yeah they ain't been going to therapy
00:02:03
Speaker
Yeah. The only problem is he had no problem cutting other people off consistently. And so then it turned... he not into therapy. I think he's been... I joked around with my No, no. He knows the word triggered.
00:02:18
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Or somebody that he is dealing with has explained to him what triggered means and all that stuff through their therapy. Or maybe he has. He has done these shows where he's had, like, therapy sessions with, like, his kids and his family. And that's how you knew that Dame Dash was a complete and utter asshole.
00:02:36
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I understand why Jay-Z was just like, I can't deal with this dude anymore. He's holding me back. So he kept saying... You're triggering me. You're triggering me. All the while trying to dominate the conversation.
00:02:48
Speaker
They're sitting there to try to interview him. He won't really answer questions. He keeps going roundabout way of answering the questions and still didn't answer the questions directly. And then he out and out lied.
00:02:59
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He said he was about to be a chairman for Revolt Television. and was going to be Cam'ron's boss, and then Revolt had to come out and be like, no, you're not. The next day, today, Revolt yeah spokesman came out and like, no, you're not. This is not true.
00:03:13
Speaker
He's got multiple lawsuits. Like, the guy is not... ah I don't know him. He's not in a good place, seems like. Well, I mean, I'm glad he got his teeth fixed.
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Speaker
Sort of. I don't know. Was there something... I know he... yeah He's got false teeth, right? He's got dentures. He's got dentures and but he said it's some long process, like his implants broke.
00:03:40
Speaker
And so they had to take the implants out. they had to shave some part of his jawbone. And then the dentures are just like, kind of like a temporary fix. but So that the bone heals. So then that he can go in and do the implants again.
00:03:57
Speaker
Because I was joking. What's he been chewing? Rocks?
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Like, how does that happen? I don't know. How do you break the implant? Well, I guess the same way that you would break regular teeth.
00:04:12
Speaker
had don't know. I mean, people break teeth every day, B. People break teeth every day. Well, guess. But it's an expensive proposition, so he ain't broke. Yeah. You know, but he keeps going this thing on and on about, you know, I'm a boss. I'm a boss. It's like, you're not a boss at anything.
Toxic Masculinity and Culture
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And one thing that killed me was he was talking about how one of the actresses sued him and she sued him for sexual harassment because he was directing a movie and it was supposed to be a love scene that was going to be very graphic.
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And he didn't want to talk to her or go over about it. So he gave her a corner to watch to get ready.
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I was like, wait a minute, nobody... I was like, The Breakfast Club didn't check in on this? That is absolutely sexual harassment in what world? In what world? In what world? It's it socially acceptable as a director to give somebody an X-rated film video to prepare for a love scene and unless it's for an X-rated love scene.
00:05:11
Speaker
Right. And this was not. Yeah. That's. Yeah. No. on Unprompted, like unprovoked. Yeah. And didn't be that. No, that's it. That is harassment.
00:05:24
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. I watched it and I was cringing a lot. And he kept talking about, you know, Charlamagne was gay because he wasn't masculine. And I was like, aha you definitely haven't been to therapy because you dealing with this toxic masculinity type of situation. Yeah.
00:05:42
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Yeah. And I was telling one of my boys earlier today, I was like, ah hats off to the journalists of The Breakfast Club because you got only so many times to use the derogatory term towards me while I'm interviewing you before there's gonna be a serious confrontation.
00:06:03
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And yeah calling me gay, that's not gonna really offend me. Like, not really. No, because it's not a pejorative. Like, it's not a diss. He thinks it is, right? Because he's toxic and homophobic. Kept calling Charlamagne girl.
00:06:19
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Yeah, yeah. He thinks calling somebody gay. I mean, what is this, 1992? Like, we don't do that anymore. we don't. Like, we don't do that. Yeah.
00:06:30
Speaker
That wouldn't have triggered me. Speaking of being triggered, that wouldn't have triggered me. But he consistently kept calling Charlemagne... dumb or stupid.
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And I sent a text to my boys. I was like, oh, that's a word that'll trigger me. Call me dumb. Call me dumb or stupid. Especially when I know that I'm absolutely not and the things that you're saying doesn't make sense and is absolutely dumb and stupid.
00:06:56
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Then you're going to get Bruce the confrontational version of it. But I was just, I was just, man, like, it's so sad that this man was responsible for a great era in hip hop, a great record company. And he just looks like he is miserable. He is out there fighting with everybody all the time.
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And, and guys, um, just a quick note. You can't say triggered when what you mean is pissed off.
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ok it's point to beach To be triggered is is an emotional and an intense emotional, sometimes physical reaction linked to a past trauma.
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You're just pissed. Like people talking over you just pisses you off. even You know what I'm saying? and that's so That's just a response to just something happening to you right now.
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Speaker
Right. So oh I noticed this, that people say trigger when what they really mean is like offended or they're angry, you know, they get pissed off.
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But it's a clinical term. And it is it it is A term representing the experience of trauma survivors. Now, I'm not saying a Dame Dash has not experienced trauma. I don't know that man. don't know that man's life.
00:08:25
Speaker
But you, but I'm noticing a lot of y'all are using the word triggered. And what you really mean is that somebody getting on your nerves. Which is not the same thing.
00:08:37
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It's not the same thing.
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And i I don't know. I don't know how much grace I'm willing to extend to Dame Dash, given how he acted during the show and some of the things that he was saying. Do I believe that he was triggered by being talked over?
00:08:57
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I mean, I feel like if a thing, like, or an
Handling Confrontation and Respect
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action legitimately triggers you, you don't then turn around and do that same thing to somebody else.
00:09:09
Speaker
That's my thought. I don't know. Okay. So in an extreme version, an extreme version of an example is that a lot of times people that abuse specifically children were children of abuse as well.
00:09:26
Speaker
So to say that that's true triggering doesn't, like, it it happens. We see now, I'm not going to there. I was about to go someplace else. I was about to get us canceled. I'm not going to do it. not yet Not yet. Not yet. Let us make some millions first, and then I can get us canceled. Okay. I don't know what this us stuff is, but sure. You can get you canceled.
00:09:50
Speaker
you can get you careful Don't drag me. You part of it. Your face is literally on the show. No, I'm not part of it. Yes. Your face is literally on the logo now.
00:10:02
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No, we're two different people. We're two different people. We're two different people. That's representing the same entity. I just do it a little bit more often than you do. Ain't no busts.
00:10:15
Speaker
If you don't say something, get your sub canceled. That's on you. Oh, man. It's good to know, ladies and gentlemen, that my sister ride and die for me. That's good enough. Hell no.
00:10:25
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I mean, but that reminds me, you see, that it was yesterday, I think. Adrian Bronner yeah kicked off Cam'ron's show. Cam'ron. it he It went and looked... Okay.
00:10:37
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First thing I'm going to say is salute to Cam'ron. Because... He got him out of there. And Bronner is a...
00:10:45
Speaker
He's straight up, he's a threat. Okay, so he's a physical threat. Right, with his bare hands. With his bare hands. That ain't got nothing to do with security.
00:10:56
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don't have nothing to do with that blicky. Okay, that ain't got nothing. You come at me with them hands if you want to. but we love people but that bit Don't matter what's it. Bobana could catch Cam in the street sometime when he's slipping. so So hats off for Cam.
00:11:14
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Because you've brought this up in a previous, previous episode, how it's never talked about how men are afraid of other men. Yeah. And and yeah they'll confront women, they confront people that are that are smaller that they know that can beat.
00:11:31
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But when it comes to a confrontation with another man, they shiver and turn. Cam didn't do that. he And he was. He saw that his co-hosts, was being disrespected and uncomfortable.
00:11:43
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He told him first, hey man, chill out. Dude kept going. He's like, you gotta to go. And he did it with class. He's like, look, I respect you. You still gonna get paid for your entire time, even though you leaving early, but you gotta go. I asked you one time, you gotta go. I respect you.
00:11:59
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Respect you. You gonna get paid, but you gotta go. Yeah. I mean, he' warned him a couple times. He told him that Treasure Wilson or Stat Baby, like, that her boyfriend was there in studio.
00:12:12
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Like, and he just would not stop. Ken was trying to redirect the conversation, talk about other stuff. He just would not stop. and it And a prime example what I'm talking about, how guys have smoked,
00:12:28
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for everybody but other men is, you see, Adrian didn't do nothing. Hmm? Well, who would Adrian have be afraid of in that scenario?
00:12:40
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Cam'ron, because Cam'ron approached him with full confidence. He was like, he keep he kept it simple, but it was like, here's your money and you got to bounce. Yeah. Like, I've asked you, I told you several times. Oh, no, no, man, that's me, that's me. No, no, no.
00:12:55
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I hear you. I've asked you several times, though, you got to go. Like, he stood his ground with him and Adrian Burnett, a fighter, brawler, took his money and bounced.
00:13:08
Speaker
Mm-hmm. He could disrespect sis all day because in that situation, what is she going to do? no How is she going to confront this man who fights for a living?
00:13:24
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That's not safe for her to do. But shout out to, you know, to Cameron for seeing that situation and stepping in when it's not safe for her to tell this man to stop.
00:13:37
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Mm-hmm.
00:13:40
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Cameron Giles. you All right. Cameron, look, let me tell you something. Cameron, you all right with me. You little problematic sometimes it's with some of stuff you say. I don't know if I appreciate this. Well, it went on a little long. Like it went on little long. That's what I was going say in the beginning. I said, I wanted to say, first of all, he confronted somebody who got hands for real.
00:14:03
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But it went on longer. was like, all right, man, come on now. Like, yeah, I know that he's going end it. When is he supposed to end Because this is going on longer than it should have. Yeah.
00:14:14
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like, also, fellas, when you have a creep like that, like when you a creep, And a girl is clearly giving you that, but humoring you, laugh, chuckle and stuff.
00:14:27
Speaker
But you're being very, very like aggressive and creepy. What you think is going to be the outcome of that besides her giving you either her number and blocking you or giving you a fake number like to get out of that situation? like What do y'all think is going to be the outcome of repeatedly being inappropriate?
Personal Growth Reflections
00:14:50
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I would be like, you know what? I think this is the man for me. He don't respect me at all, which is what I like. Like, I don't understand. So, as a reformed creep, what?
00:15:04
Speaker
Okay. And the bonafide reformed creep. Because I don't know if anybody was as creepy as I was from 1998 to 2008. A 10-year stretch.
00:15:17
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A full decade of creepiness. Okay. A dime of creep. All right. I have a... ah dime ah ah dime of creep ah that um that but
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That's almost like 10 years a slave. A dime a creep. A dime a creep. ye but that's ah That's what we're given. Okay. Okay. And I will say a lot of times it was very successful.
00:15:48
Speaker
And it was so successful that it would throw me off when it was received in a way that... wasn't gonna go in my favor. I remember ah a mutual friend of ours. Well, she's a friend of yours.
00:16:03
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Somebody we mutually know. I did one of my little creepy things to her, and she's like, what are you doing? What do you think that you're doing? I'm like, huh? It literally shocked the hell out of me because I'm like, it's me.
00:16:15
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but it Right? I had that much ego. So yeah to answer your question, why do men do stuff like that? Because for those guys who are creeps consistently, it works more times than it doesn't.
00:16:31
Speaker
Now that's for a variety of reasons. I would like to see the statistics on that. i Look, i I could tell you my batting average from 1998 2008 was 97%. but said too thousand and eight was ninety seven percent Okay. 97%. I get it.
00:16:49
Speaker
Maybe 96 and a half, 96.5. It was high. I feel like, okay, that makes sense for that era. But in 2025, like, what are we doing?
00:17:03
Speaker
But isn't he a guy that's close to my age? Right. So it's like... And he's rich. The reason why I stopped is because, rola one, i I got married, so I had to stop.
00:17:15
Speaker
You know, that's what yeah that's what ah the Lord's Law say. but Yeah. ah You know. ah who yeah And then when I was divorced, and I was just like, this isn't cool no more.
00:17:27
Speaker
But ah if you never never joined into the Lord's Law or evolved um um and matured emotionally, then you're going to think the same stuff that worked 25 years ago going work today.
00:17:41
Speaker
Plus, he's rich, so a lot of times women will put up with a lot more stuff because he got money. And I'm not defending him. I'm just, you asked a question, does it work? And I'm telling you, it does.
00:17:55
Speaker
ah Yeah, it makes it makes sense. wait We got to, boy, we got stop. We got to stop. We got to stop. Even though they rich y'all are famous. most that like got like Damn, we got to stop.
00:18:08
Speaker
We got to stop feeding people. this machine because it makes it hard for women in general because it works.
00:18:20
Speaker
If it works for him, then the woman that it doesn't work on, like, nah, I just got harassed. Yes. great That's like then the mutual person that we know, she was harassed. And it was like, okay, so I can't do this to everybody.
00:18:34
Speaker
And and it was I was shocked. I was almost appalled. Like, what you coming at me for? Because I was like, it's me. I do this. This is what I do. And was like, uh-uh. And I was like, huh, really?
00:18:47
Speaker
I'm telling you, hey, 1998 to 2008, Bruce. Woo! I'm telling you. He was somebody different. He was somebody different. I'm ashamed of him. I want to go up to him. I want be like Morgan Freeman from Shawshank Rediffson and be like, if I could, if I could go up to that young man, I would tell him, this ain't the way.
00:19:07
Speaker
I thought you were going to say Morgan Freeman from Lean on Me. He smoke crack, don't you?
00:19:13
Speaker
but but You a creep, aren't you? Right. Right.
00:19:20
Speaker
Oh, speaking of crack. but ah Okay.
Ben & Jerry's Activism and Corporate Dynamics
00:19:25
Speaker
Speaking of crack, you know what's crack? Ben and Jerry's ice cream. For sure.
00:19:31
Speaker
That is some crack. And one of the founders just decided to step away. And we're going to get into that next.
00:19:48
Speaker
Jay, like I said, crack cocaine, Ben & Jerry's, one in the same. One is illegal. One should be illegal for how delicious it is. which that All right, so why am I bringing up Ben & Jerry's? Ben & Jerry's co-founder, Jerry Greenfield, announced on September 17th, 2025 that he is stepping down from the company after 47 years directly citing the brand's independence to speak out on social and issues have been stifled by the parent company Unilever.
00:20:19
Speaker
Unilever? Yes. you leave Unilever. Unilever. Unilever. Yeah. ah Greenfield explained in the public letter shared by our co-founder, Ben Cohen, that Unilever, which acquired Ben & Jerry's in 2000, had originally agreed to safeguard the ice cream company's social activism and gave it autonomy to address topics including civil rights, Palestine, and other issues.
00:20:39
Speaker
Over time, Greenfield says that his... This independence has diminished and Ben & Jerry's has become muted and marginalized out of fear of upsetting those in authority. Greenfield specifically cited ongoing issues between the founders and Unilever related to Ben & Jerry's outspoken positions, such as the company's statement about ceasing operations at Occupied West Bank and criticisms of the conflict in Gaza.
00:21:03
Speaker
Greenfield's decision to leave was described as one of the hardest and most painful of his career, but he maintains a deep respect for the passionate employees at the company. Now, as I read that, Jay, we, it it was in one of the earlier episodes. This is this is episode 258.
00:21:21
Speaker
We've done 257 of them. I do not remember which episode it was. Okay. We've done a lot. Yeah. But in one of the episodes, we talked about the activism of Ben & Jerry's. And it was news to me. I didn't realize the founders were so socially conscious.
00:21:37
Speaker
And to find out... Yeah, they're, in my opinion, the pioneers of brand activism. They're one of the first, you know, major brands to make, like, social advocacy central to its identity.
00:21:53
Speaker
You know, it wasn't just like... Like, you usually see it where it's like,
00:21:59
Speaker
pandering, you know? Like, it's really just like marketing. Like Target. marketing campaign. ah Right. No, they actually have had a long-term commitment to social, environmental, political activism.
00:22:19
Speaker
So if he feels like they can't continue that tradition, which is a lot of the reasons why people do support Ben & Jerry's as a brand. and Now, it's not just because Americone Dream is my favorite ice cream, but but but also because i liked that they took a stance, right? A progressive stance on on a lot of social and political issues.
00:22:52
Speaker
Now, it's been a little while since I had Ben & Jerry's because Ben & Jerry's is expensive. Okay? Always has been. yeah Always will be. I get a hair... Because it's packed full of flavor. Like, you get your money's worth in that pint.
00:23:07
Speaker
I'm sorry. Like, Americone Dream. It's the one, I think, Stephen Colbert flavor or whatever. It's got, it's basically, you know, them little drumstick ice cream cones? The greatest ice cream cone.
00:23:21
Speaker
and ah It's that. I might have to give me some of that. In an ice cream. It's got the pieces of the waffle cone dipped in chocolate, caramel. Like, it's got it all. got it all Okay.
00:23:33
Speaker
Chocolate. It's got it all. Okay. Okay. I'm going to get me some of that tonight. And, you know, activism. Yeah. I mean, hey, look.
00:23:46
Speaker
It's worth it. It's worth it. I just, you know, and i I'm economical. So if I can get a gallon of briars. for the price of a pint of Ben & Jerry's.
00:23:57
Speaker
I'm gonna go with that Breyers and a whole bottle lactate pills. But... Breyers the driest ice cream I've ever eaten, which is so weird. If it's ah I cannot explain it, but yes. I'm sorry. You're going to tell me that water is dry. no Water be dry.
00:24:20
Speaker
what That's what makes it ridiculous. Yeah, it is ridiculous. It's dry. but but Here's what I'll say. and i'm and know and And it's wonderful.
00:24:31
Speaker
It's wonderful that when they sold part of their company, went public, whatever, that they had this agreement with the main head honcho that, look, it's cool and everything. can go into business, but we still get to do social activism. And for 25 years, what the problem?
00:24:51
Speaker
But now it is a problem because if you speak out
00:24:56
Speaker
In contrast to what this administration is pumping out there, ah know lot of companies are folding. I ain't never seen a president and an administration had this type of power.
00:25:09
Speaker
And I've never seen businesses be this type of cowardice. The businesses, politicians, just straight cowardice across the board. Like just punks.
00:25:19
Speaker
Just punks, right? Part of the problem with you not owning 100% of your company and somebody else owning it is, yeah, it's going to get to a point where dollars and cents come into play.
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah. And you're not going to have that control anymore. And you got to. You got to make a choice. And Jerry Greenfield said, you know what? My choice is to walk away 47 years. That's longer than I've been alive.
00:25:47
Speaker
He's been yeah part of this company putting out crack cocaine in a pint and some milk cra and some milk and ice cream, right? Like that's what he's been doing. His partner,
00:25:59
Speaker
been going Ben Cohen supported Greenfield's message, emphasizing their legacy of activism should not be silenced and that Greenfield's resignation comes with a broken heart.
00:26:11
Speaker
In response to Greenfield's criticism, Unilever stated that it disagrees with his perspective and has tried to engage with both founders in discussion and have further claimed ongoing dedication to the brand's values-based activism. But I would say that's complete BS because if that was the case, Jerry ground Greenfield wouldn't be leaving.
00:26:35
Speaker
So obviously... Leaving his company. Leaving his company. So obviously he feels like he can't speak his mind. So he says, you know what? We're going to turn...
00:26:46
Speaker
I'm to leave so I can go do my own thing. Also, there's a little bit of broader context here. Just a little bit here. Because it might not all, I'm going to leave because they've always been socially active.
00:27:01
Speaker
that this is completely on the up and up and what he's saying the reason he's given for leaving is exactly that but his departure also coincides with union lovers plan to spin off his ice cream division including ben and jerry's and magnum for a public offering later this year so they're gonna combine ben and jerry's with another ice cream company and decide Well, Unilever also owns Breyers.
00:27:29
Speaker
Say what? Yeah. So they got a monopoly. I know it's a UK-based company, but they just gonna control all the ice cream in America? why Well, you still got Haagen-Dazs. Don't nobody eat no Haagen-Dazs. That's for the bourgeois.
00:27:46
Speaker
It's a major competitor. It's for the bourgeois. Okay. Ben and Jerry's is for that down for the cause if you got a little extra money. Okay. That prize is for the streets.
00:27:58
Speaker
Okay. No. Sherbert is for the streets. No. Sherbert isn't ice cream.
00:28:09
Speaker
It's not ice cream. It's not ice cream. It's not ice cream. But it is for the streets. It is for the streets. yeah hurt a run street You remember, ah are we're not throwing our dad under the bus, but kind of. Sorry, Dad.
00:28:27
Speaker
Dad loves ice cream. And he used always get us the triple thing where it chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry. Yeah, the Breyers Neapolitan. And I don't like chocolate ice cream.
00:28:41
Speaker
I only eat the strawberry. And I'd be like, yo, leave strawberry. Everybody in the house like chocolate. Just leave me the strawberry. Ain't nobody eating the strawberry like that. No, it ain't no leave you the strawberry.
00:28:53
Speaker
It's a Neapolitan. You get a little bit of the vanilla, the chocolate, and the strawberry. Then nobody want the vanilla. Then you get... Everybody wanted to, you get a little bit of all three. No, wanted strawberry. It's not a situation of like, oh, we can only eat vanilla chocolate, leave all the strawberries for Bruce. No, get your own strawberry ice cream. I think I'm going to go get my own strawberry ice cream. And they didn't sell strawberry ice cream by itself. The only way to get strawberry. they No, no, and at that time it didn't. The only way to get strawberry ice cream in and of itself was in that Neoplatan, whatever it was that I can't say right now.
00:29:27
Speaker
Okay. But that's not what I was trying to get to. Do you remember? Because we was killing As soon as dad would bring in that gallon of ice cream, within a couple of days, the ice cream was gone.
00:29:38
Speaker
absolutely gone. He said, y'all eat up everything. Anytime I bring something in the house, y'all eat it. So then he stopped getting the Breyers and he started getting those giant tubs of sherbet. He's like, this ain't ice cream.
00:29:49
Speaker
He's like, it's just as good. And you know what? We ate that too. ate that sherbet. Yeah, because sherbet is good. Sherbet is good. Yeah. And it's got more flavor than the Neapolitan ice cream. But I looked it up and Breyers has sold strawberry ice cream since its beginnings in the eighteen hundred her So... They ain't selling that to Kroger, okay? They didn't sell it at Kroger. Yes, they do. No, they didn't.
00:30:16
Speaker
So what do you think about this? Okay, you're right. So they sold it as part of the Neapolitan. yeah When did they start selling? They don't have an actual date for when they started selling. don't know if they sell it right now.
00:30:32
Speaker
I don't know if you can walk in and get you gallon strawberry. You can get Breyer's Natural Strawberry Ice Cream. It's packed with strawberries. Probably because people like me was revolting, saying we don't want no chocolate and vanilla. We just want all strawberry. People out there throwing out boxes in the pal Neapolitan ice cream filled with chocolate and vanilla because the strawberry is gone because that's all all they want until Bryce finally made us a gallon of strawberries. But we have detoured.
00:31:00
Speaker
um Back to the broader context of this coinciding with the merging of another ice cream company and being put up for public offering. um How do you feel like it's now this is happening?
00:31:15
Speaker
Because they've been having a rift of as far as the social media ever since 2021 over Gaza. So this isn't something that just happened. This has been happening over the last three, four years.
00:31:28
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely coincidental. I think it might have been like the last straw, maybe. Like he'd already been pissed off because even though they had in their contract that Unilever would maintain their, you know, like their social...
00:31:49
Speaker
ah position, like they would still allow them to have like an independent board and things like that. And they haven't held up that end of the bargain. They might have still.
00:32:05
Speaker
Jerry might have still stayed, but then now, oh, we're going to put them up for public offering. He might have said, you know what?
00:32:17
Speaker
That's it. You know, it could have been it could have been that's that situation. Well, I got a few quotes here. Some of them are a little redundant, but I feel like it's important if you're going to report a story and somebody gives you a quote, just go ahead and say that quote.
00:32:32
Speaker
But so Jerry has said that independence existed in no small part because of the unique merger agreement between Ben and I negotiated with Unilever.
00:32:42
Speaker
it's we're proud It's profoundly disappointing to come to the conclusion that independence, the very basis of our sale to Unilever is gone. If I can't carry those values forward inside the company today, then I will carry them forward outside with all the love and conviction i can.
00:33:00
Speaker
And I love that. You know what, Jerry Greenfield, don't you run for office? Because we need people like you out here in the world. that are out there speaking for us. Cause one, you got a money, so you can put that money towards good, good services. And I'm sure you probably already do, but, but to stand on business, cause it'd be really tough for me to sign off away from my billions of dollars that I'm making just to stand on principle. Now I will stand on a lot of principles.
00:33:28
Speaker
But billions? I don't know. It's pretty tough. I'd be like, man, look, I done done the best I can for the last 47 years. Some of y'all need to speak up. I'm going go ahead and rest on this va on this island and chill. But some people, strong with their convictions. So I applaud them.
00:33:41
Speaker
Yeah. and i I honestly, I think this is great. Like, you know, Dias a rich white man. He's going to right. So, like... He'll be have...
00:33:55
Speaker
fine you know so and and just because he is resigning doesn't he still have like a state like oh yeah and no no no yeah he's resigning but he still got it's not like he sold all the stock he still owns right yeah he's still oh so he's still making money he just ain't got he can now walk away from the name ben and jerry and say whatever he want to say but still collect all the all the stock options so that's the absolute best of both worlds you know what i changed my statement it's not hard to stand up for your principles
00:34:35
Speaker
In that context. Yeah. ah Look, we're not knocking Jerry for for what he did. We applaud him. No, think it's dope. It is a little bit easier to stand up for your principals when you're sitting on a pile of cash. When you Scrooge McDuck, you can stand on a lot of business.
00:34:52
Speaker
Right. That's what going say. To Jerry of Ben and Jerry's. But if you if you Florida from good times, it's a lot harder to stand on principal when we're going cost you money.
00:35:05
Speaker
When you keeping your head above water and making it away when you can. Yeah. Temporary layoff. Good times. Easy credit. credit ripoffs. Good times.
00:35:18
Speaker
Scratching and surviving. Good times. Ain't we lucky we got them. Why you see the last line? Why you skipping? What it was? What do you mean? It's hanging in a jolly.
00:35:30
Speaker
It's absolutely not. It's chow line. Hanging in a chow line ah is the line. thought it was a jolly. and mean What is a jolly?
00:35:40
Speaker
Another way of saying chow line. What is a chow line? Soup kitchen? Yes. Okay. That's what you call them, a chow line? In the 70s in Chicago in the projects.
00:35:53
Speaker
No, no. According to the singers of that song, it's hanging in the chow line. We know people that living in Chicago in the 70s. We're going to ask them. Did y'all know about some chow line? Because I didn't know about some chow line. Did y'all call it a chow line?
00:36:06
Speaker
ah tell you what I would do. I stand in the child line of all the flavors of Ben and Jerry to try it like they like i' do at Baskin Robbins or Maggie Moe. Not Maggie Moves. What's it? Cold Stone Cold? Cold Stone?
00:36:18
Speaker
Cold Stone, not Stone Cold. Well, that's Stone Cold Steve Austin. Stone Cold Steve Austin and Cold Stone Ice Cream. You can understand how I get confused. I'm older now. thanks and And I'm a reform creep. And just my brain rot from from years. It just damaged my body.
00:36:35
Speaker
Yeah. Span Europe. We keep detouring. But I thought this was a cool story. Yeah. People standing on business. People need to do more of that. And it's also, i think it's important to just show the cowardice of these multi-billion dollar companies that aren't even here. Right?
00:36:56
Speaker
That are not even here in the U.S. that are being stifled because of pressure From this administration and also UK got some got their own issues as well. They do. I'm not I'm not well versed off the hook.
00:37:12
Speaker
Yeah, they got their own. We remember Brexit. I still technically don't really know what that's all about. I just know. say Then they pull out of the EU because they don't want.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah, that's what it was. i Brown people immigrating. To the UK. And what made it so bad was, E.U. did great songs, Da Butt.
00:37:38
Speaker
No. E.U. did, that's a great song, Da Butt. Doing Da Butt. No. That's E.U. E.U. did that. Yeah, but I'm talking about the European Union.
00:37:50
Speaker
Okay, no, it wasn't no Europeans. And I think you that. Yeah, it wasn't no Europeans making that song. doubt that No. That was... All right. This show is... We're going get this show back on track, ladies gentlemen. Sorry, we're being silly today. We are. it just is what it is.
00:38:04
Speaker
It's a sleep deprivation process. That's exactly what it is for the both of us. For the absolute both of us.
Parenting and Child Autonomy
00:38:11
Speaker
um Standing on business. Yeah.
00:38:15
Speaker
Great concept. What do you do when your child starts to develop their personality And it's in contrast to how you want to raise them.
00:38:26
Speaker
We're going to get into that next.
00:38:33
Speaker
All right, Jay. Here we are once again talking about kids. And we ain't got none. None. No. Not a one.
00:38:44
Speaker
not and Well, if you wanted to count our dogs, but they're not the same as kids. No. I have a lot of nieces and nephews. and I have a godson. Right.
00:38:55
Speaker
you know but But my own, like full-time, my children? No. No. no And ah there's a lot of times that that I'm working with some of my clients and their kids in the background. I'm like, you know, if you want him to stop, him or her to stop doing what they're doing, you could just beat them.
00:39:13
Speaker
Yeah, no, that's not an answer. That's not an answer. You could. You could just just put the hands to the butt. No. Not a belt, a hand to the butt. I done told you.
00:39:25
Speaker
I done told you. Yeah. Stop running up in here. Yeah. I done told you. Put that down. I'm not going to tell you again. I'm going clobber you like k Club Elaine did Rocky Balboa.
00:39:36
Speaker
Yeah. the ma The master's tools cannot dismantle the master's house. So you cannot. Okay, that's poetic. Yeah. Yeah. this It's just it's the how we were treated during enslavement.
00:39:48
Speaker
You're going to treat your children like that? No. Well, I guess you got a point there. Anyway, so there's this viral story that's going around. And this woman is at home with her five-year-old son.
00:39:59
Speaker
And her five-year-old son keeps coming. he's He's learning how to do letters now. So he's really excited on ah writing and drawing pictures and putting letters to the pictures, right? So he's making this picture and he keeps running to his mom basically to learn how to spell her name. And she's thinking to herself, oh, this is great.
00:40:18
Speaker
He's learning how to spell my name so he can... make pictures for me and for mommy instead of it being mommy is i don't know melissa right okay right beautiful thing till she finds out what the picture actually is what the picture actually is is a sign that says keep out And then the mom's name.
00:40:40
Speaker
And he's going to put the sign at the front of her door. Now, the reason why he's doing this, this little five... On bedroom door. On his bedroom door. Okay. The reason why this five-year-old is doing this, and this is what the mom says in this in this post, is because he has a propensity of taking things that don't belong to him and storing them in his room.
00:41:04
Speaker
So his parents are routinely going in there to get those things that don't belong to him out. And they've told him, don't do that. He don't listen. So also when they go into his room, they take away things that he likes, like his toys. Right.
00:41:20
Speaker
So he wrote he created this sign to basically be like, y'all don't go in my room no more, because every time y'all go in my room, y'all take something that I like. So she found out it's not so sweet.
00:41:34
Speaker
And here it is, a five-year-old developing their personality. Yeah. I mean, two things. one you can't um get your kid to stop taking things by taking things.
00:41:49
Speaker
yeah That doesn't make any sense. So he knows if you take my things, it upsets me. So I'm going to take your things and to upset you.
00:41:59
Speaker
Like it's not, it don't work. So they you already messed up. Two, the math for him is simple. Every time y'all come in my room, I get in trouble.
00:42:11
Speaker
Stop coming in my room. Right? Like that's a simple logic. He's five. Right? five years old. So to him, you got to break it down to his essence. It's simple, simple logic.
00:42:22
Speaker
Okay. Now, got some ways you can respond.
00:42:31
Speaker
Okay. What are some of those ways? So one way is to... respect his autonomy and space, right?
00:42:41
Speaker
Then if he wants to put this sign up, then you will respect that. and But what the conversation you have is, if I respect your things and your and your space, you respect my space and my things.
00:42:57
Speaker
And if you can't do that, then neither can I. And so that like that's the like that's the boundary you gotta draw. like And if he crosses that boundary, he knows that there's gonna be consequences, but the consequences can't be also taking things. like The consequences to be something else.
00:43:14
Speaker
Right. It can't also be like, you know, make him write an essay about why taking things that don't belong to you is bad. Like, it's got to be something else. Jay, he is five. He is just now learning how to spell his mom name.
00:43:28
Speaker
He got to draw it. He got to draw it in pictures. OK, I make a little comic book. You know, but I'm just saying, you know, make a little comic or something, draw it out.
00:43:39
Speaker
Why is it? Or he has to say it. Like, he has to come to you and give the reason why taking things that belong other people without permission is bad. Like, why is it bad? Like, that is a collaborat conversation, right, that you got to have.
00:43:53
Speaker
Another way is take that door off the hinges. yeah There you go. You know, that's another way. um Because we grew up in a house where no locked doors in the first place.
00:44:04
Speaker
And why is that door closed? And you're not allowed to use my government name on the keep-out sign. One, you're not allowed to use my government name.
00:44:14
Speaker
Two, you're not allowed to use my government name on the keep-out sign. Ain't nobody going mistake somebody else for your mom. You're going to put mom on that.
00:44:24
Speaker
What if he, okay. Well, she gave him she gave him the letters to her name, you know, because she thought he wouldn't know how to spell her name. That's another thing. That's more questions. that Why does this baby need to know how to spell your government name?
00:44:39
Speaker
Well, the I heard, I saw this meme the other day, and I thought it was hilarious. And it said, for those people that want kids, think about it. Because once they hit an age, they don't stop talking. And then in the comments section, it was like, yep, my daughter has her own podcast every day.
00:44:57
Speaker
And another one was like, yep, my son just has to make sounds. Even if he's not talking and saying words, he's either yelling or making sounds. And then another woman who was like 48, she was like, yeah, my dad said I haven't stopped talking to since I was three.
00:45:12
Speaker
No.
00:45:14
Speaker
kids be talking. And so sometimes parents don't want to ask no more questions because they know it's going to lead to a long-winded conversation of nonsense.
00:45:26
Speaker
what I know I need to know why you need my government name. If you keep coming in and asking me, ah what color is the sky so you could color it in? What color is gray? Oh, you'll need a green crayon. You know, like that's one thing where I'm not asking any additional question.
00:45:44
Speaker
But if my child is coming to me, why don't I spell your government name? Sound it out for me. Like, you know, I have questions of why do you need that. Why do you need that information? Sound it out for me. What form are you filling out?
00:45:59
Speaker
Like, what what are you doing with this information? I have questions. So, yeah, a deeper question. But, you know, he's learning it from you.
00:46:15
Speaker
He's learning it from you, right? Because at that age and younger, kids learn how to be people through mimicry, right? They watch their parents.
00:46:28
Speaker
And so when you take that stuff from him to punish him, it pisses him off. So now I'm going to take stuff from you to punish you because you pissed me off. Like, that's... best Easy math for a five-year-old to work out.
00:46:42
Speaker
I think that's your math as a five-year-old. That's something that you might do. i That's not something that I would do because I wouldn't want to feel the wrath of the parents. Well, you circumvent that by keeping them out of your room.
00:46:58
Speaker
Again, this is how popular. was like, hey, they keep finding the stuff and I keep getting in trouble and I get more stuff taken away. So I got to take more stuff.
00:47:10
Speaker
How can I, every time they come in my room, I get in trouble.
00:47:15
Speaker
You can't come in my room no more. Like, that's simple. Okay. All right. ah Let me tell you how I handle it. This is my house. I live here.
00:47:26
Speaker
I can take whatever I want because I gave it to you. yeah You could just be in here with three walls, not even a fourth one. live Three walls, wide open doors, sleeping on in a sleeping bag.
00:47:41
Speaker
Okay. With no nightlight. Yeah. Now I done told you stop taking stuff. giving you the good life, but I can show you what the bad life looks like. and and on And when you do that, you ain't even got to beat them.
00:47:54
Speaker
Because... Y'all, I'm joking. I don't want to be no kids. I love the kids. I would never lay... I'm too big to lay hands on a kid anyway. yeah And I know as a kid, whoopings hurt.
00:48:07
Speaker
But punishment is way worse. Because when you take away things... Or you just restrict their activity. You can't go outside. You can't watch TV. You can't play video games.
00:48:20
Speaker
That restriction of activity or taking away the things that, in my mind as a kid, I need to live. Right. I can't live without this bad feel.
00:48:32
Speaker
feel We're not gonna talk about that Batmobile story again. But I'm just saying, like, that was the first thing that just popped in my head. But like, this toy, I need it to live. Which lets me know. Hold on. Which lets me know that Batmobile was a good birthday gift.
00:48:49
Speaker
No, it wasn't. It was horrible. No, it was a good birthday gift. And I wasted my gift for that year. He was so bad. He was so bad. but Ladies and gentlemen, the story is my sister's ninth birthday. No, seventh, eighth.
00:49:05
Speaker
Yeah, it was I was it was young. Yeah, maybe birthday. We had Toys and Russ. My birthday had just passed because our birthdays are like six weeks apart. Right. Yeah. About six weeks apart.
00:49:16
Speaker
My birthday has just passed, but the new Batmobile has just come out. So me and my younger brother basically con my sister into getting that Batmobile for her birthday gift. Mind you, we only get one birthday gift.
00:49:29
Speaker
yeah So my dad tried to ask my sister several times because he knew that me and my brother were plotting. You sure you want this? Are you sure? How many times did he ask you?
00:49:42
Speaker
He asked me a lot. The thing is, i y'all didn't play me. I knew what was going on. I knew this was clearly a gift for you. But y'all had so much excitement about it.
00:49:54
Speaker
And it was just hard for me to say no. And then I do also remember being like, I don't really i don't really have an idea of what I want, which is why we just went to Toys R Us for me to pick something out anyway.
00:50:05
Speaker
That's true. Because never actually asked for anything. so That's because you got everything under the sun for Christmas. That's the reason why. So I was like, I don't really have an idea of what I want for a toy.
00:50:16
Speaker
And my brother seemed very pumped about this Vatmobile for some reason. Okay, so now the truth comes out 35 years later. I just remember not caring that much about it.
00:50:28
Speaker
It more and more offended our father. Yeah. Because he thought I Because everybody thought I was being hustled, but really i was like, they look so hot they look so happy. We was happy. Just get it for them. And then nobody gets to play with it until I broke it.
00:50:40
Speaker
And then anybody could play with it because I didn't want it no more because it was broken. But also, this goes to a bigger issue. You don't want your kid taking stuff? Just spoil them like my parents did my sister.
00:50:51
Speaker
Nah, because i still took y'all stuff. Yeah, that's true. She took all my clothes all the time and stretched out with her big ass head. Anyway, Liz, look, I don't know how to to work with a kid that's a klepto, but I do know that you need to solve this problem pronto before he gets older and starts stealing all the time.
00:51:13
Speaker
Yeah. But my sister's right. Yeah, but you're right. I never thought about it that the child is just mimicking what they see. So maybe you're a klepto and you're passing it down. and Maybe you need to reevaluate yourself. What is it that I'm doing?
00:51:27
Speaker
that it makes him or her think it's okay to constantly take these things that they not supposed to have because eventually they're going to cut their finger off because they're to a knife or take some scissors because they got a little project and going to cut their finger off you're going wake up in the middle of night. This happened to one of my ex-girlfriends.
00:51:45
Speaker
Her child was determined that he was going to cut the apple himself He cut his finger down to the white meat. She tells me the story and I'm like, don't know how you fainted. And she was like, I had to rush him to the emergency room.
00:51:57
Speaker
We were scared that he was going lose his finger. He didn't, thank God. I don't know how I did it either. It just needed to be done. And I was like, that's the strength of a woman because let me tell you, man, pass out.
00:52:08
Speaker
Yeah. well pass out Through a bile like rising in my throat, I would have just grabbed a kitchen towel and wrapped his hand up so I didn't have to see it. yeah ah And then that, and then I just swallowed down what I would have thrown up.
00:52:24
Speaker
Because that is a horrifying thing to see. yeah Yeah. Yeah. would have just like, get this towel, wrap this towel right in your hand, let's go. The point is, you have to stress upon your kids.
00:52:37
Speaker
the dangers and the reasons why you say no. I used to tell our parents all the time, they would tell me, don't do that. I would ask why, because I told you so was their answer.
00:52:49
Speaker
In my mind, that was never a sufficient answer. So now I have to go figure out why I'm going to go do it. So sometimes, and each kid is different. Sometimes you got to explain, sometimes you just tell them no.
00:53:00
Speaker
And they, they, they get it. They're all different, but no matter what, Got to have a little patience. And as my sister says, ask them questions. Because if they being really, if they first of all, if they being quiet or they're being really energetic about something and asking you, keep coming back and forth and back and forth, find out what they doing.
00:53:20
Speaker
Yeah. What are you doing in there? Nothing? Oh, that sounds like more than nothing to me. Bring nothing in here and let me see nothing.
00:53:32
Speaker
Oh, that sounds like our mother. Jay, what do you want to tell the people before we get out of here? that Ask these kids a question. I know you're tired. I know it's been a long day. I know you don't want to hear this fantastical story that they're likely going to make up and that you got to dig through the nonsense to get what's actually going on. I get it.
00:53:52
Speaker
I, I, I fought the children. I know how they are. up that i hope I get it. Okay. Why they always got to catch their breath? They always had a breath.
00:54:03
Speaker
Because they gotta tell story. They gotta tell story and they read it to you. And I'm really excited and my brains moving faster than my mouth. And so I'm out of breath. That's how kids tell you. That's how you gotta...
00:54:17
Speaker
You gotta get through it, right? And then of course their vocabulary is not big. So it's a lot of stuttering. It's a lot of, do you, do you remember, do you remember, oh, oh, it's a lot of that. I get it.
00:54:30
Speaker
Ask these babies question. Ask these babies some question. Figure out what nothing is. freedom Basically, you're describing the day kids talk like Trump or Trump talks like a kid. I mean, there was really no reason you to do that dig, but it was wide open.
00:54:44
Speaker
It was right there. It was there. Yeah. Yeah. And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. want to thank you for watching. And until next time, as always, I'll holla.
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Speaker
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