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Toon v Saints Review
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Jo, Kev & Iain review the win v Southampton, to get us back on track & look forward to keeping in the CL mix this season
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00:00:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome to the Newcastle, I can't speak, Newcastle podcast is what I was trying to say as part of GSPN. I'm your ever efficient host, I'm Joe. I'm never screwing up, always getting it right.
00:00:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I am with my boys, the OG3 as we often like to refer to ourselves as, salute boys. First up, we have Kev, the one that everybody loves to see, apparently, is that right Kev?
00:00:36
Kev
Is it?
00:00:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it?
00:00:37
Kev
What? Did I say that? I think I might have said everybody's favorite on one of the episodes.
00:00:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
didn
00:00:42
Kev
I was just carried away.
00:00:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah, right, and your head just got massive.
00:00:43
Kev
That's all it is. I've got to give myself some love because they keep telling us i'm a um I'm almost getting kicked off a team. So yeah, not bad.
00:00:50
Iain
Who says that?
00:00:52
Kev
What is very sad is, do you know when we used to build up the intros, right? It's pointless now because we're massive on YouTube.
00:00:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:00:58
Kev
but We've got like one huge global sports podcast network YouTube panel.
00:01:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello.
00:01:03
Kev
We'll have our own thing. So everyone can watch us now. So hello everybody.
00:01:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hi. It's exciting times.
00:01:07
Kev
Yeah.
00:01:09
Iain
Good day, y'all.
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
were also with, I was gonna say, the next in line.
00:01:12
Kev
We can see, we're naughty in here.
00:01:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, well, if they're watching, they can. So anyway, yeah, as a non-spoiler, it is the dawn, Mr. Ian McKay, how you doing?
00:01:23
Iain
I'm doing great. Thank you very much indeed, Joanne. As I said to the boys on the Southampton podcast, I'm in fine form. Oh, sorry. I shouldn't have mentioned that to a Southampton fan. And they just laughed.
00:01:36
Kev
i thought i thought he was doing anton decker you're doing great i'm doing great joe i'm doing great joe get it in the bag wasn't a blip look how good bowmoth are oh blip
00:01:39
Iain
ah
00:01:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know I was like, you're just doing great.
00:01:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:01:42
Iain
um jack
00:01:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I mean, it's pretty obvious why we're here. We're here to discuss the tune back on track after what's, let's call it a blip against Bournemouth. It's just a blip, wasn't it? It was a blip, man. Shut up. It's a blip.
00:01:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was a blip for us. Bournemouth have been brilliant, all respect to them, I'll give them that. But we need to think of it as a blip because apart from a little bit of dominance that we might have let Southampton have for about 10 minutes-ish, not that, I would say that we're pretty on top for the full game really.
00:02:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah, we'll just start to come out of the game.
00:02:17
Iain
But.
00:02:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
No real schedule lads. We're just going to go, let's just go ad hoc.
00:02:22
Iain
So surely that means.
00:02:22
Kev
No way are we going off a cuff?
00:02:24
Iain
That means I can dive in and say I'm not sure it's just a blip.
00:02:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah, we are. You can.
00:02:30
Iain
I think there's something far more deep rooted in the complacency that Newcastle showed. First of all, in the way they in the way they course it to victory to wolves and then he eased off in the last 20 minutes and conceded a lot of chances which wolves didn't take.
00:02:36
Kev
no Nah.
00:02:46
Kev
Ah, Ian man, how are we Ian?
00:02:47
Iain
and Then played the whole game in third gear against Bournemouth and were spanked from the first minute to the last.
00:02:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
What's he doing this for?
00:02:54
Iain
And then yesterday, started so, so slowly.
00:02:58
Kev
Who's lit?
00:02:58
Iain
Come on.
00:02:59
Kev
Michael? Is that you, Michael?
00:03:01
Iain
And then we did the same.
00:03:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hey, mike Michael's like up here right now.
00:03:02
Iain
I know, I know we were we can do it.
00:03:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Money's like Mr.
00:03:05
Kev
He is fair play.
00:03:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Positive.
00:03:06
Iain
We can do it.
00:03:06
Kev
Michael's more positive than Ian.
00:03:07
Iain
But look, they made the subs. We took the them, and then we just let, we just coasted again.
00:03:12
Kev
Let me just double check.
00:03:12
Iain
And, you know,
00:03:13
Kev
We are fifth. We are three points off third. um And smashing teams that are fighting center in third gear.
00:03:18
Iain
ah don't want that but but have have kev kev I don't want that to be the peak of our season's performance.
00:03:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm feeling alright like.
00:03:27
Iain
I want us to beat Fulham. I want us to beat Arsenal and win that cup.
00:03:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
We will.
00:03:31
Kev
But Ian, you know what?
00:03:31
Iain
I want us to have a fighting.
00:03:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
We will.
00:03:33
Iain
I want us to be making Liverpool and Manchester City and Arsenal shit sit scared when we go to play them away from home. Not thinking that's going to be an easy, comfortable three points like it usually is for them.
00:03:44
Kev
You know what? I agree.
00:03:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not gonna be.
00:03:47
Kev
I agree, Ian. Everything Ian said is coming from a good place, right? So I'm going to let him off a hooker a little bit.
00:03:51
Iain
Absolutely.
00:03:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
it is
00:03:53
Kev
But I've said that not just, ah you know, anybody on this podcast, anyone listening at the start of the season, when they're talking about performances and still picking up wins. There is no divine right or guarantee in this league that we will always play well.
00:04:07
Kev
However, if we cannot play so good or not get out of third gear against the likes of Southampton and Wolves and still win, that should be celebrated.
00:04:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is.
00:04:14
Kev
We should be happy. Come on, we're going to challenge in your right ear, you know. We've got to give teams like City and Liverpool a game. We've still got the semi-final coming up, which we'll talk about a little bit later on. However, let's just enjoy where we're at here.
00:04:25
Kev
We can only beat what's put in front of us. Yes, Southampton weren't great. Yes, forgive us a little bit of a scare at the start, but look, we responded well. We were one down. We ended up winning 3-1.
00:04:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
We did.
00:04:34
Kev
Wasn't a fantastic performance, but come on with three points off third.
00:04:38
Iain
But Kef, look, I agree entirely with what you're saying.
00:04:38
Kev
We're banging on the door.
00:04:41
Iain
If we play badly and win every game to the end of the season, um' I'm very happy.
00:04:44
Kev
Brilliant. Yep.
00:04:46
Iain
However, we started We started really well actually but got knocked a bit off our trolley ah by a really soft goal to give.
00:04:56
Iain
I mean we defended really poorly for that and then we were knocked off our stride for 10 minutes.
00:04:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:05:01
Iain
We then We then step it up. We're then playing play the what I want to see us playing, which is in snapping, biting into the tackle, moving the ball fast, scored three good fantastic moves.
00:05:12
Iain
Could have scored a lot more in the first half. Scored an excellent goal by Tenali. When did we just clock off again? We just think, oh, well, that's all right. and And that's when complacency and mistakes slip into the game.
00:05:24
Iain
And the thing is that I haven't gotten good enough to take advantage of it, but if we get into that mindset that we're too up so it's easy, we can coast,
00:05:25
Kev
Frankly, but if.
00:05:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:33
Iain
in other games but will come down to worth with a bump how many teams this year have come back from two down to win three two
00:05:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
But surely it was just because we were... I know I had no disrespect to Southampton but surely it was just because we were playing Southampton and we probably felt that we could kind of course that game out.
00:05:45
Kev
what
00:05:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
we didn't I wouldn't say we played poorly. I know what you mean about the coaching thing because I was kind of hoping and that we would kind of go for the throat a bit and get some goal difference on the goal because I do think it's going to be so important this season.
00:05:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean look at how tight it is at the top. I've talked about it before. um The goal difference, I think is going to be a massive player. It could literally be the player between getting into the Champions League or not. It is that tight at the top and it could easily, the rest of the season could go on exactly like that.
00:06:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, we've just watched the end of the Villa game there. It's a game that they were expected to win and they didn't. And then they nearly lost it in the last seconds.
00:06:17
Kev
Yeah, West Ham. West Ham almost nicked it, yeah.
00:06:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, there we go.
00:06:20
Kev
I think what's important, you look at a couple of seasons ago when we got to the League Cup final, there was one eye on that final and our form in the league completely dipped off.
00:06:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
So like, it's it's one of those, isn't it?
00:06:29
Kev
Nobody wanted to get injured.
00:06:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:31
Kev
So I think part of it is when we're getting ahead, it's like, oh, look, after ourselves, there's a big semi-final coming up. I want to get the Wembley, which we shouldn't be. You're right.
00:06:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:39
Kev
And I'm sure Eddie will be addressing it. And like I say, if anybody knows me, you'll know that I trust him 100%. m but something I think something's got to give you look at our recent form is a 10 wins in the last 11 hours obviously the Bournemouth game where the everyone says a batter does badter us which we did right but two of their goals were in stoppage time so it was we were just track we were throwing everybody forward we did we did beat us well I'm not going to take anywhere anything away from Bournemouth but we've
00:06:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah They didn't really batter us. I don't think.
00:07:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but I wouldn't say they butted us to to look at the game as a whole, like.
00:07:08
Kev
We've won, we've won 10 of our last 11. Something does have to give in these games where the players probably know we can win in third gear. I know it's disrespectful itself happening in a way, of but let's face it, we're talking about a team who's probably going to go down with maybe the lowest tally ever.
00:07:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:23
Kev
So we're going to take Derby's record and make something go to third on that list. The only time someone's ever been third in my history, but it is what it is.
00:07:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:07:30
Kev
And then literally it's it's a case of something's got to give with one 10 out of 11. I feel like we just need to enjoy the moment we're in. Ian's right. Well, I think when we play against Arsenal in the semi-final, we'll see a massive change of intensity.
00:07:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:45
Kev
And I used to have a problem with that when we weren't picking up the wins against the brightens and the West times, I was like, don't just show up for the big boys and then lose to them, but they kind of just have that intensity and the big boys, as long as they keep playing average and winning against the so-called not big boys, I wasn't say smaller clubs, but I don't want to say smaller clubs.
00:08:03
Kev
but We've got to be, we've got to be happy with where we're at. And I agree, Ian's coming from a really good place and an ambitious place of let's challenge Liverpool and City. And honestly, I would love to see it. But like I've said many times, there's no divine right to play well every game or to even pick a point in every game. We just saw Villa, Villa were expecting to beat West Ham at home and they've dropped two points, which is great for us. But it it is what it is. We just have to enjoy. We beat what was in front of us and I thought overall we deserved it.
00:08:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
We did it. Like you say, we got the result in me.
00:08:36
Iain
I don't mind if we just play a containing game and we retain possession and we control the hell out of the last half an hour without being ambitious at all.
00:08:44
Kev
Like we did against Tottenham, yeah.
00:08:45
Iain
Like we did against against Tottenham, like we did against Manchester United. It's just a drop off in concentration when they're coasting.
00:08:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:53
Kev
Yeah, maybe.
00:08:55
Iain
Southampton Wolves can't take advantage of that, but look, Fulham, right, at home, next week.
00:09:01
Kev
Good team.
00:09:03
Iain
Yeah, but Are we going to have the intensity we need to go and take a Fulham on, or are we going to approach it like we did at Bournemouth and find that we're three behind before we can wake up and it's too late?
00:09:08
Kev
I think so.
00:09:15
Kev
I am. Up, up.
00:09:16
Iain
That's what I'm but that's what i'm worried about. that it they're not it's not like It's not like they have to go every 48 hours and play with this intensity.
00:09:18
Kev
Yeah.
00:09:24
Iain
They become one game a week. There must be able to get up for it.
00:09:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
true
00:09:28
Iain
And um the concern I've got is that some certain players
00:09:29
Kev
yeah you be
00:09:33
Iain
Your boy Murphy was one in particular who just looked like he was coasting through the first half. And then he played a fantastic ball which everyone concentrates on. It's a great, fantastic ball for the second goal.
00:09:44
Iain
But he did sweet Fanny Adams other than that. um And I just think that's how so how paltry our squad is. There's too many people in the team that are going to get picked whatever happens to start.
00:09:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I think there was a few of them, I'll be honest, yeah.
00:09:55
Iain
And that that takes the edge off them.
00:09:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:57
Kev
We have to remember though, Jacob Murphy isn't as good as what he's been playing, is he?
00:09:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
It will.
00:10:01
Kev
He's just, like, he is, we love him.
00:10:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thanks, Kev. I feel like I'm the only one that's been saying that bit, by the way, because I know you all know how much I love him, but...
00:10:05
Kev
We love him. We love him. But the natural, the natural kind of, like Jacob Murphy isn't like, we get, we get conned in as Newcastle fans. We get conned because Eddie Howe's coaching has us believe him at Murphy.
00:10:18
Kev
He hasn't got like eight assists, four goals.
00:10:20
Iain
Yeah.
00:10:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's Pete Murphy right now, but it's amazing, man.
00:10:21
Kev
something something ridiculous like he's nowhere near he's nowhere near 12 goal contributions in January in the pre he's nowhere near that type of player but he will have a fall off and again Newcastle fans not Ian by the way because Ian is sensible and he is coming from an ambitious place but there is a lot of Newcastle fans who who aren't expecting that Newcastle some Newcastle fans obviously not Ian think that Murphy is now this like
00:10:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Enjoy the ride.
00:10:37
Iain
I am.
00:10:46
Kev
top eight Premier League winger and he's not he will he will fall off he will miss chances he will get through one-on-one in Scuffey's lines he will not put in great crossover but that's okay that makes it even better when he's playing off his head and he's terrorizing teams like Tottenham and United he's gonna score heart against Arsenal in the semi-final to go 5-0 aggregate that makes it better when he does that because we know he's not that good but look I agree with Ian we need to show up against Fulham I mean we haven't even discussed so far yet we're talking about Fulham
00:10:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
You will.
00:10:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
It does.
00:11:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's true.
00:11:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
We do.
00:11:15
Kev
Welcome to this episode.
00:11:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was going to say, she should we kind of, well we'll take this, I think I'll tell you what.
00:11:15
Kev
episode but we Ian's right, we need to show up against Fulham in my right attitude. However, however just to show you what we're doing, we're we're absolutely battering teams.
00:11:26
Kev
10 wins from our last 11 and then watch us beat Fulham and then get to the final.
00:11:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know that's what's going to happen.
00:11:31
Iain
Yeah, i think i did and I did enjoy the middle hour of that match.
00:11:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what's going to happen.
00:11:35
Iain
I did. I'm not having a go at the results or how they can play or any of the players.
00:11:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:40
Iain
It's just, I'm just worried. Just worried that the coast, and we have a horrible, more horrible results like the like the home defeats to Brighton and to Westtown, which were caused exactly by that.
00:11:44
Kev
No need to be worried.
00:11:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't.
00:11:54
Iain
And I don't want, as I say, I don't want, do you remember when we were sitting in fifth level on points with Man City in fourth? and thinking that we're going to catch Nottingham Forest and Arsenal because they've got tough games coming up.
00:12:02
Kev
It's a good point.
00:12:06
Iain
And and we end up ninth. I mean, you know, I don't want that to happen.
00:12:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're not going to.
00:12:10
Kev
Instead, we'll be sat sitting and saying,
00:12:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're going way too far ahead now man.
00:12:14
Kev
Remember when City, remember when City were level 1 points and we said now they're 8th and we're 2nd challenge in Liverpool, that's what we'll be saying.
00:12:20
Iain
That is what I want us to say.
00:12:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what's happening. and We will.
00:12:22
Iain
That's what I want.
00:12:22
Kev
Yeah.
00:12:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're going to keep it happy.
00:12:24
Iain
Anyway.
00:12:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll tell you what, I'm going to break you boys right now because I know I said if we were going to go rogue, but God, we've gone rogue.
00:12:30
Kev
That was Rogue. Let us know, listeners, let us know if you like Rogue episodes.
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
We love rogue. Yeah, we love rogue, man. Let's get real. um Who was the first again? Sorry, Ian, go for it. Can I have the first ad, please?
00:12:39
Iain
S.
00:12:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:12:41
Iain
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00:13:01
Iain
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00:13:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Beautiful, thank you very much Ian. Right, we'll go straight into part two which really we're just going to keep talking about the game and we'll probably should talk a bit more about Southampton considering this is a Southampton review and we'll probably spend more time talking about future games.
00:13:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:13:24
Kev
Even we were complacent.
00:13:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:13:25
Kev
In this episode, even we didn't talk about something.
00:13:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
deb be We've been so complacent, we've been like the team. I think ah the only thing I want to say on what Ian's just said, I didn't actually think we were that bad at first. I thought their goal, strange enough, gave them that kind of, they became a plucky, let's call them, for about 10-15 minutes, so they did have that kind of control. But up until they scored in like the 9th, 10th minute, whatever it was, I didn't actually think we were that bad. I think we were in control We were looking all right. Their goal kind of came from their first attack that I can remember, if I'm honest. And it kind of just gave them a bit of a, well, hang on a second, tails up, we might be able to do something here. And it made us look a bit nervy. But I like to think of it as it might give us a kick up the backside that we needed.
00:14:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
to not really just take Southampton as like lying down type of thing. um And then our penalty was a massive turnaround, I think even the players have acknowledged that. And you saw a massive difference didn't you? I mean our two goals after that, Isaacs and Snorley's was beautiful, I've loved watching that back. The way he gives the eyes to the keeper and then kind of hits it the other way. It's it's a proper striker's goal, he's not even a striker, that's what's beautiful about it. But it was even like the the movement leading up to it was just, that was my favourite goal, I think you can probably tell.
00:14:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
um of the match but if you want to slate I'm not gonna slate anyone by the way but if I want to kind of say who I thought was poor in that game I think Big Joe did not have a great game I'll be honest and I'm talking probably overall he did some good stuff I wouldn't I would say but personally I don't know how you guys feel about it but I wasn't loving Big Joke the other day and I usually love Big Joke, I'll be honest.
00:15:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Gordon was more of a better player in the second half there, the two that I would want to pull out.
00:15:01
Iain
I.
00:15:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
I agree with what he's said about Murphy by the way as well, again. But that's Murphy the minute. He does some amazing things and in a way that's kind of all you would expect from someone who really is not, like Kev said, a top eight right winger.
00:15:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's not, he's just at peak Murphy right now.
00:15:19
Kev
He's not even, he could argue he's not a friendly great winner.
00:15:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And even I'll admit that and I love the boy. But that's what I mean, but like, I'll admit that. He's not how much I love him, but I'm not stupid enough to say that the boy's like a world-beater. He's just at peak Murphy. He's having a great time. Him and Isaac are just an absolute dream team at the minute. They're linking up in beautiful- aren't they though? Come on. Some of the passes he lays off for Isaac and they just- and Isaac acknowledged Murphy's mint pass as well for his goal. So, I don't know. It's- how do you guys feel about the players that I've mentioned in terms of Big Joe or Gordon or whatever?
00:15:50
Iain
I thought Big Joe was quiet. I think when we were chatting during the game that we were all watching ah illegally, but we were watching it.
00:15:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:15:57
Kev
No, we weren't.
00:15:58
Iain
um
00:15:58
Kev
We all get given a nice little pass watch on the Premier League channel.
00:16:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ian, obviously via China.
00:16:04
Iain
Do it. I can tell by your eyes you're making that up, Kevin, even though my headphones went off so I don't know what it was.
00:16:11
Kev
I don't want to get in trouble.
00:16:14
Iain
m Right, I agree. um we We're saying Joe didn't need sub in here.
00:16:16
Kev
yeah
00:16:18
Iain
Let's bri let's bring Willough on. Let's bring Miley on. um I know he's a great destructive force. We'll probably need that little bit of battling that was going on there and leave it up to Bruno and Tenali to pull the strings in a constructive, creative way.
00:16:35
Iain
um But I don't think that was the first game that Joe's been off it. I mean, he didn't do much against Bournemouth. But anyway, that's just an observation. um The guy I thought was was well off it.
00:16:49
Iain
Completely miles away from Mark and the guy in the center for the header. um Almost, for some inexplicable reason, missed his header to let them get through and score that off cycle 10 minutes from the end.
00:17:02
Iain
Fabian Shaw, and he is the worst offender when it comes to believing the press and thinking that he doesn't have to concentrate
00:17:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah we did i think it will be yeah
00:17:10
Iain
to To continue to maintain his standards. He has got a. He's got an error in him and we saw one or two. Yesterday and I'm so that was that's who I'm concerned with. I think it's gotta be Burnham Botman when we play against. Fulham and Arsenal.
00:17:31
Kev
wow nah no way i can't sit here and i get it wasn't his best game he's it he's all right but like that's one bad game and me and what entire season he's got a mad shot
00:17:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's true. I think Eddie will stick with him because Eddie doesn't drop people after just one game at the same time, does he?
00:17:43
Iain
donet I know, but but but his first bad game with the rest of them was against Bournemouth.
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
so
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:17:53
Iain
This is what I mean.
00:17:54
Kev
yeah but everybody had a bad game against Beaumouth
00:17:55
Iain
The the win the wind might paper over the cracks, but doesn't it doesn't for me paper over the individuals who are off their main game that we have better alternatives to slot in and try and and try and improve it.
00:17:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
True.
00:18:06
Kev
He's only played half a game since his suspension or injury, whatever it was. So he played half a game back. And Botman, look how rusty Botman was when he beat his first 20 minutes against Spurs.
00:18:20
Kev
And then everyone loves him again after his second game back.
00:18:23
Iain
Yeah, after he played well, after he played well in against Spurs and against Arsenal, that's why everybody loves him.
00:18:23
Kev
I just think we need to just... Botman's first half against Spurs was... I don't want to criticize Botman, but he was rusty as hell.
00:18:33
Iain
His first 15 minutes was a bit rusty. I agree. I agree. And there were reasons for it. It's not any reasons for Fab Schauer had a virus two weeks ago. Come on.
00:18:44
Kev
He might still have a virus.
00:18:44
Iain
It's a virus. It's a virus, not bloody rabies. Come on.
00:18:48
Kev
Anyway, anyway, anyway, we won again 3-1.
00:18:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And maybe that's what it was.
00:18:53
Iain
We did. We won.
00:18:53
Kev
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I know, I'm gonna make sure people realise we won.
00:18:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
We did.
00:18:54
Iain
We won.
00:18:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
If people didn't realize we won, we're happy, really.
00:18:59
Kev
I'm not gonna criticise Jordan because he's an absolute man-mountain of a player who's been so consistent
00:19:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not criticizing him, Kev. It's just acknowledging that he didn't have a great game.
00:19:07
Kev
Yeah, but he's off for naught.
00:19:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
I love Big Joe.
00:19:08
Kev
Like, he's playing against self-hampton. Self-hampton are like the worst team in the Premier League by five.
00:19:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
So you should You should steamroll them.
00:19:15
Kev
Yeah, but if there's ever going to be a game you can have a bad game and win, they'll probably know it. They'll probably know.
00:19:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know he can, but I'm just saying he had one, that's all.
00:19:21
Kev
And something has to give. Something has to give after winning 10 out of the last 11. We can't... Something has to give. There must be... I don't know if I'm mentally tired. I don't know if I'm physically tired. I have absolutely zero idea what's going on.
00:19:32
Kev
But I'm buzzing because we're 1-3-1.
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, apparently they were fatigued against Bournemouth.
00:19:35
Kev
We're 1-3-1.
00:19:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what they were saying. They were fatigued. We did.
00:19:37
Kev
I'm not going to criticise Fabian Shaw, who's been for me, for me, one of our best defenders of the last God knows how many years.
00:19:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're fine. I'm happy. I'm cool.
00:19:46
Iain
I agree.
00:19:46
Kev
He's had an enough game, I agree.
00:19:48
Kev
He's had enough game.
00:19:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's the finest specimen we've ever had on this team. It's fine.
00:19:50
Kev
He's had enough, he's had enough game, but I'm not dropping him.
00:19:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, we can acknowledge this.
00:19:53
Kev
I'm not dropping him. I would probably play Sean Byrne because it would have been great all season. Butman just has to wait his turn. I guess after coming back from an ACL, Um, and I wouldn't drop. I know he didn't see it, a drop jaling but I wouldn't drop Maira.
00:20:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I didn't say drop him.
00:20:04
Kev
I just, I just think, yeah, where where's the positivity gone guys? What's going on? like
00:20:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was just saying he had a bad game. It's all right. He just had a bad game.
00:20:12
Kev
It's a one off.
00:20:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's literally all I was saying.
00:20:13
Kev
Yeah. Just carry on at any event.
00:20:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I didn't say drop him.
00:20:16
Kev
He decided he's that good.
00:20:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's just silly.
00:20:18
Kev
He's that good. He decided to have a bad game against the worst team in the league who can't even punish us for it.
00:20:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
to
00:20:22
Kev
He's brilliant.
00:20:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sure that's what he did, can't I?
00:20:24
Kev
Exactly. Exactly.
00:20:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
So today I'm going to have a stink axe, I can't be bothered, and lace up, so it'll be fine.
00:20:28
Kev
To be fair. It goes and actually goes back, on a serious note, it goes back to Ian's point he made at the start of a pod where there probably was a bit of complacency, but like I say, we probably knew we could win that in third gear, and you know if Southampton got back to 3-0, there was 10 minutes left, they probably would have upped the gears again in 1-4-3, that's how I know it didn't look as comfortable as we wanted in terms of possession and making Southampton or giving them a bit of belief at the start,
00:20:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:54
Kev
But we probably were in control. We didn't really, I mean, third gear, second gear.
00:20:58
Iain
Oh, Kev, we were in control.
00:20:59
Kev
We didn't really get out of it.
00:21:00
Iain
ah yeah We were, however, not total control. I can remember an overhead kick that Dubravko made a fabulous save from at the start of the second half.
00:21:07
Kev
who
00:21:09
Iain
And I remember a free header at the back post by the same player from the resulting corner that he was that he was able to be in the right place to pick up.
00:21:14
Kev
Yeah, Harwood Bellis.
00:21:19
Iain
So total control means you're not giving up a whole load of shots on target to your opposition. We weren't in total control. It looked like we were coasting.
00:21:26
Kev
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:21:28
Iain
And what my point was, please don't get into the habit that when you've gone ahead, you think you can just coast.
00:21:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:35
Kev
That is a good point.
00:21:35
Iain
because that is when you then get turned round, somebody scores three goals in five minutes and you are coasting, you can't step it back up again.
00:21:35
Kev
but
00:21:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're right.
00:21:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's true.
00:21:43
Kev
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:21:44
Iain
That's the only point that I'm making. I don't want them to, and if they're going to be coasting in these games, that's a great opportunity to rest one or two of them, have them on the bench, bring some other players in who are going to be up fat, being predicted in the first game.
00:21:56
Kev
I think you hurt my feelings when you said to drop Fabian Shaw.
00:22:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll look after him.
00:22:04
Iain
he's got a he has got a rick he's got a rick he's got a rick in him he's got a rick in him and if he is if he is if he's missing a header that puts fullum through to win 2-1 and the last minute next week we'll be wondering why botman wasn't a centre half well
00:22:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll drop him and I'll look after him.
00:22:06
Kev
You can't criticise Big Fab.
00:22:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's getting old you know.
00:22:11
Kev
He hasn't. He's class man.
00:22:19
Kev
You'll step in, hit one from 45 yards to round it up 3-0 after his clean sheet performance.
00:22:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
and it
00:22:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Cher's reaction was interesting actually after missing that header, because he turned around and he was just like, he had his arms up.
00:22:29
Kev
He must have got a shout.
00:22:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I'll be honest, I don't know, did he give a shout or was he just, because he he does acknowledge when he's done something wrong, was he more frustrated by myself that, or hadn't, was he almost admitting that he thought there was someone someone behind him?
00:22:41
Kev
I don't know, I think if he was admitting to someone with Ben, he would put his head down and sprint back, but it was almost like a look of, well, what are you shouting for?
00:22:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know, it's, it's, I don't know.
00:22:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he had his arms up, didn't he? Like, someone, someone must have said something, surely.
00:22:48
Kev
what What are you shouting to leave it for when there's somebody running through? Somebody shouted, maybe, I don't know.
00:22:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it's alright, it was offside, so we don't need to worry.
00:22:53
Kev
Maybe there's a Bournemouth player shout to keep us.
00:22:56
Iain
I think he was trying to flick that ball back with his head and he just missed it.
00:23:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Missed it entirely.
00:23:01
Kev
Maybe. Maybe you should get him on the bottom, we'll ask him.
00:23:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we'll never know. Oh, I'm on that pod.
00:23:07
Kev
Right?
00:23:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right.
00:23:10
Kev
Right?
00:23:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:23:10
Iain
We'll have to turn the cameras off.
00:23:10
Kev
Not gonna argue.
00:23:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Nick will be the other one as well, so good luck, boys.
00:23:14
Kev
Yep, we're not getting on that one.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
We just aren't like. um Right, I'll tell you what, Kev, can you give me the ad and then we'll finish up with a few other bits.
00:23:22
Kev
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00:23:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fabulous, thank you very much. Right, so because obviously we've been very argumentative in a good way. aveling I've liked it. It's good.
00:23:53
Kev
Yes, good.
00:23:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
um It's different. Yeah, it's fun, man. We're gonna start and end this whole thing. Oh, we're starting part three, sorry, but I'm gonna end the pod positive and happy. So first up, I'm gonna ask you is not for your man of the match.
00:24:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm gonna ask you for your Top three players, please. It doesn't have to be in any particular order, but if you would like to give me them in an order, you can. So first of all, I'm going to go to Ian. And who are your top three players from yesterday, please?
00:24:22
Iain
Tenali man of the match pulled all the strings, scores a fabulous goal that he starts as well, by the way. And he's already, he's already looked in the head to making that finish when he disrupts a player and knocks it out ah up to Isaac.
00:24:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
You did. Mm hmm.
00:24:35
Iain
Then he's on his bike. Tenali was fabulous. Isaac is electric and completely on fire. A score was twice. He's got to be, he's got to be at number two.
00:24:46
Iain
They're, they're close. They're joint man on that really. Um,
00:24:51
Iain
Dan Byrne was very good once he got over falling over, I thought. But that's just him building up his player of the season reputation. I won't pick him as the third one. I'll give that i give that to Martin Dubravka because I think he made three two or three really good saves that just get overlooked.
00:25:09
Iain
He did it in like he did it in the Bournemouth game.
00:25:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I agree.
00:25:12
Iain
He made three or four brilliant saves. But because we got Tonk, nobody mentioned them.
00:25:17
Kev
Mm.
00:25:17
Iain
Martin Dubravka has been a revelation since he came back into the team and Pope might still be substitute when we play whoever it is in the Karabowkuk final.
00:25:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
a Agree
00:25:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we'll move on to that bit in a second, but what's very interesting. So, Kev, I'm going to let you go last purely because I've literally got my players down as Tenali for the exact same reasons, as Ian said, and yeah, he probably would be my actual man in the match as well. So I had Tenali first, I've got Dubravka second, and I've got Isaac third. So we've got the same three, which is very interesting. But again, Dubravka is in there with me because again, it does get overlooked sometimes, doesn't it?
00:25:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And strange enough, I had considered putting burning, but, um, no Dubravka for me. see I remember him pulling off some really, especially a couple of great saves in the game itself. So because I've picked the same three and for pretty much the same reasons as Ian, we'll may as well just cover that all in one.
00:26:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Kev, I'm going to now move straight onto you. Have you got anyone different? Oh, right.
00:26:13
Kev
I've got two of the same three. So I was anyone can imagine he's acting tonight. I think they're undeniable.
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:19
Kev
um Especially it was a little turn. We showed a match of a day as well. And he picked the ball up in like his own half and turned away and just created Gordon stop running. But yeah, he's a really good performance tonight.
00:26:30
Kev
He was fantastic. I absolutely love tonight. He's gone. It was for shoulder pass from Isaac passed off his shoulder and Gordon just slips up through lovely stuff.
00:26:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Then the first time passed from Gordon when it was beautiful, wasn't it?
00:26:40
Kev
Yeah, so yeah, he's actually I agree with. Dubravka, I think has done brilliant. And I would absolutely agree with Ian. I would keep him in. I wouldn't bring Pope back in at all.
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely.
00:26:49
Kev
However, the only thing with Dubravka have a tiny... not It's actually a worry, a little bit like Ian's worry about us maybe not being able to up big A's when we need to. Dubravka, every time he makes a save, he parries it other than the one where he tipped over the bar because it was point blank.
00:27:04
Kev
He didn't have a choice. But he parries it back into a danger zone a lot of the time. And I'm starting to worry that clubs will do the research and they'll pick up, but when Dubravka makes a save, if they follow in...
00:27:15
Kev
We are going to have an opportunity. It's very, very frustrating for me. I don't know why it sticks out to me so much, because I love Dubravka. I think he's been fantastic, especially since Pope's been injured. But he does worry us sometimes.
00:27:26
Kev
A couple of them saves, especially against Bournemouth. And it was a game before that. We kept the clean sheet, buddy. He parried two or three back into a danger zone.
00:27:32
Iain
Wolves.
00:27:34
Kev
Yeah. And I'm thinking, don't parry it back there. Just put it behind the post. So he does worry us a little bit. My third player was Tino. I thought Tino had a really good game.
00:27:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:45
Kev
A couple of times he broke up some counter attacks, but then it was many how good he was on the ball. His first touch inside his mind or trying to get me overlap. I was very impressed with Tino. And again, Tino's another one who I don't know why, but I struggled.
00:27:59
Kev
and always be impressed with him because I expect him to play really well all the time after when he first came to the club. I just need to calm down my expectations. I think he's still young, he's going to have bad games, but I thought he was very good against Southampton.
00:28:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:12
Kev
He put in a very good tackle as well in the corner flag where he literally went before the guy just to ball. I thought, oh, he's going to hurt him, but he got a great tackle.
00:28:21
Iain
I think he gets, I think his excellent, excellent performances and excellent development gets overshadowed a bit because Lewis Hall has been so spectacularly good this season.
00:28:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
great shouts all around i'll be honest yeah
00:28:30
Kev
On the other side, yeah.
00:28:32
Iain
But to be fair, when we were starting this season of podcasts, Kev, you've got Kieran Trippier to be our player of the season, I think.
00:28:45
Iain
He's not going to play again.
00:28:47
Kev
Yeah, I think it was a period though, he got injured or illness and Trippier came back in for two games and looked brilliant and I thought, oh, Tino's not going to get back in.
00:28:47
Iain
Unless Dino gets injured, he's not going to get another kick.
00:28:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. It was great, it was.
00:28:57
Kev
And then Trippia got an illness, I think, and Tino came back in. I think that was the kick up the backside he needed because Trippia came in and held his place for two games and then fell ill.
00:29:07
Kev
Tino comes in and hasn't dropped the pace in. So I think them two are, well, I think Trippia is very good for Tino at the minute because, like I say, Tino was dropped about, wasn't that long ago, was it?
00:29:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:29:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
her
00:29:18
Kev
Four or five games ago, Tino was dropped and Trippia was playing two in a row instead of him.
00:29:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
You did really well.
00:29:22
Kev
Um, so I think, I think actually what Ian said before, I backs it up a lot more as well. Tino got rested or dropped and then he's come in after tripping his illness and looked fantastic. So Ian might have a point with these, uh, you know, drop the players who weren't quite pulling away at the minute and they might then come good again. Fair play.
00:29:41
Iain
Yep, Emil Kraft and Matt Target to start against Fulham. That's what I say.
00:29:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh dear.
00:29:47
Iain
Give Sharon Hall a bit of a rest.
00:29:50
Kev
No, not
00:29:50
Iain
No, I don't mean that. I don't mean that.
00:29:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ian's gone completely wild now. ah
00:29:54
Iain
No, I'm concerned. I'm just concerned. When we were six games in a row that we'd won and we looked for, we'd done all those hard away games and we won 2-0 at Arsenal. We said there's four games coming up where we can really consolidate. We need to get at least 10 points out of this 12. Now we got nine, which is fair enough. And Bournemouth was the blip in that.
00:30:18
Iain
The next four games is a completely different kettle of fish, because after Fulham at home, correct me if I go wrong, I know there's some cup matches and thrown into that as well. I think we've got Fulham at home, we've got Manchester City away in the league this is, we've then got Nottingham Forest at home, and then Liverpool away three days later.
00:30:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Arsenal home. Arsenal home. Oh, enough to mow the cup, sorry.
00:30:42
Iain
Now that is not a set of four games, that I would be expecting that we pick 10 points up from. I think we can. I think we've got the team that means we can if we are on it.
00:30:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
However, watch us.
00:30:53
Iain
If we are on it and playing like we can play.
00:30:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:55
Kev
That's why we didn't get out the third gate, Ian. I know them games are coming up, and we're going to save themselves for them.
00:30:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
but saving our energy right
00:30:59
Kev
Save an energy. Save an energy to take them on. We knew it could be itself.
00:31:02
Iain
Well approved.
00:31:03
Kev
Keep the battle clean.
00:31:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
i
00:31:05
Iain
Proof of the pudding is going to be coming up, right?
00:31:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
ready know
00:31:08
Iain
i'm not I'm not worried about it because I know they're capable of doing it, but I don't want them to sleepwalk through the first half against Fulham and find out that's our best chance of three points in that in those four games.
00:31:20
Iain
I don't want to get a home draw to kick it off with. That's all I'm saying.
00:31:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, well, I think what we'll do is we'll wrap it up, because we probably could start talking loads about Arsenal and Fulham games, but we've obviously got preview games coming up this week, haven't we? So, on the review of Southampton, we'll not preview the other games just yet, boys.
00:31:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
um As always, it has been an absolute pleasure.
00:31:40
Kev
You already have. This week's done.
00:31:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, you know, exactly, I know we've covered everything in one part of them, we're really scrapped.
00:31:45
Kev
This week's done. Just put me thought for the whole week. Finished.
00:31:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
shall i just put it on repeat every day i shall break it down into sections um i would and i would love to stay on the pod longer with you but as you know i've now got to go and have probably the most stressful watch of our weekend in watching the redskins play in the championship and sorry in the conference um final for the first time first time people for decades and if we make the super bowl again first time in decades And if we win the Super Bowl, it'll be the first time since 1992, which is actually before I started supporting them, because I didn't support them until 2000.
00:32:18
Kev
Let's go Eagles!
00:32:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I'm long enough. You're a new Eagles fan. We've had this conversation. This is not on.
00:32:24
Kev
Let's go Eagles!
00:32:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
I've waited 25 years to watch this with the Redskins piped down. You've only liked the Eagles a few years, man.
00:32:30
Kev
This is a preview of a wild card Wednesday in Feb because Ian's the judge.
00:32:31
Iain
um very kind i'm very i am
00:32:37
Iain
I'm very confused though that Joanne is so committed to the Redskins because it's the Commanders against the Eagles isn't it?
00:32:48
Iain
Who the bloody hell are the Redskins? Are you living it in the past?
00:32:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
The Redskins is what they were for 80 odd years until madness took over Ian. Until PCBS took over Ian.
00:32:59
Iain
um Well, I know that.
00:32:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know when, you know that.
00:33:00
Iain
I mean, they were the Redskins when I was following NFL.
00:33:01
Kev
Look forward to the NFL special everybody.
00:33:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
yo you Stop winding me up. Stop winding me up.
00:33:04
Kev
Coming on the 4th of February. Save it for then.
00:33:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then like I was going to say we'll save it.
00:33:06
Iain
How long have they been a commandist for?
00:33:08
Kev
Save it for the wild red.
00:33:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know, but Kev, I'm either going to be like living the dream by then or I'm going to be crying because we'll be out.
00:33:13
Kev
I thought it would be devastating because my are going to destroy your dreams in about 3 hours.
00:33:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I've got to try and enjoy the next few hours
00:33:18
Iain
No.
00:33:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Your Eagles have been, you've been an Eagles fan for like, i'm count on one hand.
00:33:23
Iain
2-1.
00:33:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm like, I've been a...
00:33:24
Iain
You should take my approach to the NFL, which is watch the game, be disappointed if your team gets beaten, and then by 10 o'clock in the morning of the next day, you've forgotten because it actually doesn't make any difference whatsoever.
00:33:30
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Which usually happens.
00:33:33
Kev
That's me. Yeah.
00:33:35
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But this is why, Kev, you don't deserve your eagles to win because you don't care.
00:33:38
Kev
I do.
00:33:39
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I genuinely care if the skins don't win tonight.
00:33:40
Kev
I do. We're going to win.
00:33:42
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I'm going to be gutted.
00:33:42
Kev
Give them all that. Goodbye, commanders.
00:33:44
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I'm not taking part in the NFL thing if we lose tonight.
00:33:46
Kev
Adios, commanders.
00:33:49
Iain
Good.
00:33:50
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Anyway, I'm signing off people because I need to go and watch it. But one quick shout out that lasses who also made a meal of their winter a day, but they did win, but they also are very complacent.
00:33:53
Iain
and
00:34:00
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So we managed a 3-2 win against bottom of the league Portsmouth. but We won, right? That's all that matters, just like the lads. Cheat. Cool. That's it. Love yous and leave yous.