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Transfer Tuesday - Departures, Arrivals and has PSR ruined football?
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Michael hosts Kev & Nic for a transfer special of the Tactics Tuesday podcast where they discuss departures, incomings and has PSR ruined football?
Host - Michael Grahamslaw
Guests - Nicola Adams-Pringle, Kevin Esther
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Introduction to Tactics Tuesday
00:00:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everybody and welcome back to the Daily New Castle Podcast! Now, you're guessing correctly, it is Tactics Tuesday, but as you can tell by the title of the video, this is a little bit of a transfer special.
00:00:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we're going to be going through... In fact, you know what? I'll describe who we are first. Now obviously my name is Michael Graham, and I believe you'll know the rest of the team, but in case not, we've got Kevin!
00:00:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
How's it going, Kev?
00:00:36
Kev
Yes, of course you got Kev, best person on this podcast, should be on every single episode.
00:00:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
there exactly i thought i'd just mix it up a little bit but yeah well we'll try and do things a bit differently and we are also joined by blesser for keeping quiet and until i've introduced her nigga how's it doing there yeah you're scruff
00:00:43
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Absolutely not.
00:00:43
Kev
And Michael, transfer Tuesday.
00:00:49
Kev
Transfer Tuesday.
00:00:59
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Hello, I'm also in the same really jumper that I recorded in yesterday, so no one judge me.
00:01:05
Kev
You recorded on the same day if anybody asks, Nick. Don't tell anybody.
00:01:08
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Well, true, yeah, just told everyone that I'm an absolute boggerer
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's actually the same watch as well for like four days in a row.
00:01:13
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, DM me. But anyway, I'm good. I'm good.
00:01:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Good, good.
Newcastle's Transfer Challenges
00:01:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, what wasn't good, unfortunately, was Newcastle's result at the weekend. And what may rectify that is a couple of transfers. But to defer players to come in, we're possibly going to need players to leave. So in part one, we're going to be talking about the room and departures from Newcastle United and giving our thoughts.
00:01:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, the first one, I think it's probably very obvious what people are going to say. Migi Almoron has been linked to a number of teams in the Major League Soccer, or MLS as it's called, to normal people. a rumoured fee of about 10 million. Now, what do we think of that curve? Do you think that's a good valuation for Migi? And do you think, well, how are you feeling about them potentially leaving?
00:02:00
Kev
think it probably is his time, but then I'm one of the people who said it was his time after that ridiculously good season when he played like off his head out of nowhere.
00:02:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:08
Kev
I said we should cash in whilst he's stuck up high, but that's a bit more of a brutal approach. and I think it is his time. He's not, he's not getting minutes in front of Jacob Murphy potentially, and he's going to want a new right winger.
00:02:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
no
00:02:21
Kev
So again, that puts what?
00:02:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:23
Kev
Miggy third choice. And he's not, we don't really play with a 10, so he can't be versatile in that way.
00:02:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:28
Kev
He can't play any other position whilst Gordon can play through the middle of time from the wing, I can get some extra minutes if Barnes is playing.
00:02:29
Nicola Pringle-Adams
No.
00:02:35
Kev
but Yeah, I think it's probably his right time to go. Ten million is probably a fair fee in terms of what he's done over the last couple of years.
00:02:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'd agree.
00:02:43
Kev
And I think it's a good homecoming for him. I think he's been linked with ah ah Atlanta and I think Charlotte FC was another one.
00:02:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:50
Kev
and Obviously a relatively new franchise, not not club. But again, it's a case of both of them would be good fits for him. He gets to go, not home because I know he's Paraguayan, but a league where he really has high stock and
00:03:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:04
Kev
you know a good reputation already. So I think it's a good move for everybody involved. I just hope when he does leave, he gets a bit of a farewell even if he comes on for two minutes and we know it's going to happen after our game or something like that, that would be nice to see. But yeah, it's definitely Miggie's time. Get him off of wages, get £10m and see how we can reinvest it.
00:03:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%. And to be honest, if any of our American listeners are listening, maybe Atlanta fans, let us know what you think about players, you know, who are maybe a little bit past it in the Premier League coming to join the MLS. Obviously we saw the likes of Carlos Vela, et cetera. It does work at times, but let us know your thoughts. Now, Nick mentioned a bit about, uh, Miggy there. Do you feel the same as Kev is the time and right?
00:03:45
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, I think the timing, I think the timing's been right for ah but best part of a year now, hasn't it? Probably even a little bit longer than that, to be
00:03:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe.
00:03:52
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, everything that Kev said I completely agreed with. I think we covered it yesterday with me, you and Ian recorded. He just doesn't impact the game anymore at all or change it or bring anything new or different.
00:04:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:04:04
Nicola Pringle-Adams
So I do think it's his time to go. And like Kev says, I just hope he maybe can get a couple of minutes for a bit of a farewell, because he did perform well for us. You know, we would never forget October 2022, Miggy.
00:04:16
Nicola Pringle-Adams
because he performed well. don't know what happened to him, but he smashed it.
00:04:21
Nicola Pringle-Adams
But yeah, it definitely is time to go and it has been for a while, I think. So I'm just, I'd sound a bit bad saying this, but I hope they can just get the deal done.
00:04:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:29
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I know we've still got what, 10, 11 days at the transfer window, but yeah.
00:04:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Would you potentially argue that Miggie Almeron's going to be up there with maybe the likes of Sholarami Obi who weren't good enough for the club given who was around him, but still a bit of a cult hero at the club and, you know, worth that name, really?
00:04:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do you think, Nick?
00:04:50
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't know if he goes into cult hero category for me.
00:04:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh.
00:04:55
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Or I don't know. No, for cult hero, I don't think he definitely doesn't go into that for me. I appreciate everything that he'd done at a time where we really needed the team to pull out the bag.
00:05:06
Nicola Pringle-Adams
That was quite a pivotal moment in obviously sort of Newcastle's new reign, if you like. But yeah, for me, I don't think he goes into cult hero status.
00:05:17
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't know if that's a bit of a bold. It's a bit bad saying that whore.
00:05:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do you think Kev, do you agree?
00:05:22
Kev
Oh, it's a tough one. He's like on the board, Lenny. You've got obviously legends, icons, cult heroes, and men.
00:05:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:28
Kev
maybe favoured personnel who we just quite like but we don't get any of them I think he's probably in the favoured personnel he's always welcome back anytime but I don't know if we can call him a cult hero or a legend or an icon so I think he's he's gonna have to go in there for me favoured personnel he can come back anytime he'd always be welcome if you I think if any Newcastle fan sees him in the street after he leaves it'll always be a positive experience for him and I think anyone's really got like a bad word to say about him obviously his work rate has been brilliant
00:05:34
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:05:50
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:05:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:55
Kev
that season where we finished fourth obviously he just turned into like Miguel Messi it was unbelievable and then and then obviously we knew he wasn't that good at the time or I think most sensible fans knew that that wasn't like his level he was always kind of above it a little bit like Jacob Murphy is at the minute but yeah I think his favorite personnel he's not a cult hero he's not an icon and he's not a legend but he's his favorite personnel I'll put him in that category favorite personnel
00:06:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Definitely not.
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
okay fair enough oh yes plenty there's plenty of fantastic moments plenty of fantastic moments in a player that i'll miss but i won't miss seeing them on the pitch at the minute to be honest i'll miss the face the face the happy go lucky attitude the videos i'll
00:06:22
Nicola Pringle-Adams
But we'll always remember his goal against PSG.
00:06:25
Kev
first Champions League goal in 20 years. He's in my history books.
00:06:28
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah. He's in the history books. Yeah.
00:06:38
Kev
If you're listening, we do love you.
00:06:40
Nicola Pringle-Adams
So what will you miss about him?
Lloyd Kelly's Transfer Speculations
00:06:48
Kev
What videos is Mugi Amara sending to Michael here?
00:06:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
miss you
00:06:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
You don't see you my WhatsApp.
00:06:54
Kev
oh
00:06:55
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Oh dear.
00:06:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, so we move on we move on from war, Miggy. And we move on to something that came out this week, which has very much surprised me, Lloyd Kelly.
00:07:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fenebache were linked. Six million bid was launched and rightly rejected, in my opinion. Fifteen million is said to be the next offer from Juventus of all teams.
00:07:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that seems baffling to me, but Juventus are in a bit of a slump at the minute. say that they're unbeaten in the league, but the team isn't exactly.
00:07:25
Kev
just people
00:07:27
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:07:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not exactly where it wants to be, though, and that's why they had to sell in the summer. They are, you know, they are maybe, well, they've drawn more. They're only unbeaten because they've drawn so many games. They want to be a bit higher than what they are at the moment.
00:07:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And apparently, Loy Kelly is one of the answers to that. What do you think, Kev? Do you think Kelly to Juventus could be on or is Fenebache a bit more likely?
00:07:48
Kev
I'm not sure. I wasn't supposed to be surprised because before we signed him, apparently AC Milan wanted him on a free. And I thought, well, he must be good if AC Milan one year. I think with Kelly, yeah I don't think we've seen the real him yet.
00:07:59
Kev
I think he's still bedding in. We've seen what it's like under Eddie Hall. I think if Eddie Hall had his way, wouldn't play a lot of minutes when Eddie Hall makes a signing. It's very rare. We're just coming to the team. Lewis Hall's a prime example of that.
00:08:10
Kev
He had a pretty much a full year on the bench and is now had an international cap for England.
00:08:12
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yep.
00:08:15
Kev
And everyone's talking about him being the best left back in the league. I think under Eddie with a yearr in year under his belt, settled in my area, you know moved his family up, made new friends, made a new life.
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:25
Kev
I think people forget sometimes footballers are humans and that's part of it as well. I think we haven't seen the best and I think he probably is quite a good player, but it's really tempting to accept a £15 million bid because if profitability rules are there, what a profit value is signed for zero, sold for £15 million.
00:08:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
pure profit.
00:08:43
Kev
That there is very tempting.
00:08:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:45
Kev
How much of a can you then reinvest we spoke before on Wild Call Wednesday is how unfan friendly these PSR rules are. But I mean, surely if it's profitability and sustainability and we're making that much of a profit on one player, we've got a bit of freeway.
00:08:59
Kev
So yeah, I would accept 15 million, to be honest. I think when you look at the standard in my squad, I know I've just been saying we haven't seen the best from him yet, but he's probably what, fifth choice centre-half? I think Kraft, my player centre-half before Kelly.
00:09:07
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:09:10
Kev
I guess what does help Lloyd a lot is what he's left footed. So if Burnham, Botman are out and he wants to left footer in, Kelly is naturally next. But like I said, he played craft centre half in the cups this year and he did really well.
00:09:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
True.
00:09:24
Kev
So yeah, tough one.
00:09:25
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:09:26
Kev
I think if he goes brilliant, because we'll get money to spend, I'm assuming with profitability. But if he doesn't go, I'm not too worried because I think after a year settled in, Look at Gordon. Gordon came in in January.
00:09:36
Kev
He didn't get a lot of minutes. Took him about six months to get going.
00:09:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:09:39
Kev
So we do need to be a little bit more patient with with Kelly. He's still relatively young. He's a left footer. Sent a half. All the physical attributes you could want. Looks very comfortable on the ball. Just needs to settle in.
00:09:49
Kev
I'm happy either way with him. I'm not I'm not too bothered which way that one goes at the minute.
00:09:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
What about you Nick? What do you think? Do you agree with Kev?
00:09:58
Nicola Pringle-Adams
yeah, I do partially agree with Kev. don't know if I'm just being looking at it from a different light and I just, I'm a bit frustrated with Lloyd Kelly cause I expected more, but then I also do see it from the point of, has he really had enough time to settle into the new castle squad?
00:10:15
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Probably not.
00:10:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah
00:10:16
Nicola Pringle-Adams
it's probably the fairest answer for that one. but from what I've seen of him funny has played for us, I haven't been mad impressed. And I know when we did sign him, m a lot of, you know, the fans of Bournemouth were sort of saying, he's not that great.
00:10:32
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Like, I do hope he performs for you guys, but blah, blah, blah. So yeah, I'm not too impressed. I think if ah ah think if the deal goes ahead, we've done well to pull it off, to be honest.
00:10:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'd agree.
00:10:45
Nicola Pringle-Adams
And I wouldn't be mad if he does go.
00:10:47
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I feel really bad saying that about players because I know I'm supposed to be for everyone. but I wouldn't be mad if he does go because then it puts us in a better position. If him and Miggy both go, we've then got you know that money to invest elsewhere where we need to invest.
00:11:00
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Because like Kev says, is Lloyd Kelly probably a what, a fourth, fifth choice? so So yeah, kind of on the fence with it.
00:11:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he's definitely not top, uh, one of the top three. So I completely agree. I think it's, it's one of those where if you can get 15 million, I mean, some publications were saying 30, I think that's baffling.
00:11:18
Kev
That's not happening.
00:11:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's baffling. Uh,
00:11:21
Kev
That's a case of 180 million for Sean Longstaff.
00:11:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
I probably get it off my United. So that's us for that.
00:11:29
Kev
think I think with Kelly, I think just one thing, I know when he has played nick Nick's right, like there has been shaky moments, but it was a game against Chelsea and the Cup. I can't remember if it was a quarterfinal, it would be Chelsea.
00:11:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Excellent.
00:11:40
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:11:40
Kev
He was the best player on the pitch.
00:11:42
Kev
Like he hadn't, he looked after the winger really well.
00:11:42
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Mm.
00:11:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, excellent.
00:11:45
Kev
He covered the left back.
00:11:46
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:11:47
Kev
He was really good with a bar thought, Oh, he's going to be a really good player. And then he kind of, he didn't play again for like three or four weeks. And when he came in a bit shaky, I think he needs a general, like ah a long running team.
00:11:54
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Weeks, yeah.
00:11:58
Kev
When I say long, I don't mean like first choice, but if there's a couple of injuries and he gets three, four, five games in a row and he does get maybe a couple extra months on top of what he's already had to settle. I still think he could be a really good player.
00:12:10
Kev
I personally thought when we signed him, it was a natural replacement for burn because how loves a tall fullback in terms of burn.
00:12:14
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Hm.
00:12:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:18
Kev
And Bern can play a centre half or left back. And Kelly is literally just a new Dan Bern. He can play left back and centre back. He's really tall and he's relatively good with his feet for someone that tall. So I thought, well, hold on a minute. Once Dan Bern leaves, Kelly just takes over Bern, whatever, like, squad role Bern has at that time. Kelly becomes the new Dan Bern. So that was kind of my thoughts when he came in. But then, like I said, in a couple of cup games, he was playing Kraft centre half alongside Shaw or whoever it was and Kelly wasn't getting a look and I was thinking my god when the sales comes back Kelly's really not going to get a look in so that's where for 15 million comes in you're thinking okay maybe we take that.
00:12:56
Nicola Pringle-Adams
yeah Hmm.
00:12:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%. You're a little worried about injuries
Financial Fair Play and Newcastle
00:13:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
if we do let Kelly go because LaSalle's and Kraft have missed more games than I have, and I haven't played for Newcastle. But yeah, we'll end on one last player, and I know very much how this is going to go. Arsenal are interested in a certain striker, but also for you, Matthias Kounier.
00:13:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
and John Duran has more likely options but they look likely to lose out to John Duran or West Ham who've just put 57 million in for him.
00:13:20
Kev
mid
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
So quickly one word I'm going to give you is five seconds. Alexander Dezak to Arsenal.
00:13:33
Kev
I can do it.
00:13:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it happening?
00:13:34
Kev
and I can do it in two seconds. Arsenal, you can't afford them. Done.
00:13:39
Nicola Pringle-Adams
What Kev said?
00:13:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
What about it?
00:13:40
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, what Kev said back off.
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alexander Isaac isn't going to Arsenal, don't be fooled otherwise, they're not good enough for him.
00:13:48
Kev
Exactly.
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:13:56
Nicola Pringle-Adams
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00:14:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely, correct Nick, thank you very much. We've talked about potential departures, now those potential departures might lead to a potential signing from Newcastle, again I'm saying potential far too much because I don't think it's going to happen, but The reason for that is obviously FFP, whatever it is decided to be called now.
00:14:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
actually, I saw something online this morning, actually, which was an absolutely brilliant example of what how sort of a metaphor for financial fair play. So I'm going to give it now and I am going to give credit to the the guy who had done it, Dominic 22733662.
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
You didn't make it easy.
00:14:57
Kev
Yes.
00:14:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Big Dom. But think of it like managing a household budget. Imagine you've got to pay your eyes, higher revenue, and you've sold some old stuff you don't need.
00:15:05
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I wish.
00:15:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's player sales. On paper, it feels like you've got extra money to spend, but then you realise you're still paying off that fridge you bought last year. Transfer instalments, which very relatable. Bills, they've gone up obviously, your wages and your agent fees.
00:15:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're saving for a bigger goal, like a new house, your long-term sustainability. and even the bank FFP lets you borrow a little. They have strict rules about how much you can spend and get into trouble, and how much you can get for money for new things. Most of it is already spoken for, which is frustrating. But in the long game, it's not really helpful for anybody. Now, that's something that I could say to absolutely anyone. And I think it could be a lot more relatable. And I know a lot of people look at the financial fair play rules. And even though Kev did them fantastically on a wild call Wednesday before, I still sit there and go, you know what? I've got the idea of what I'm cracking on about.
00:15:58
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Me either. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
00:16:00
Kev
I still haven't got a clue and I researched it.
00:16:03
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't even think they've got a clue what they're going on about.
00:16:05
Kev
They just make it up as they go along.
00:16:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:16:06
Nicola Pringle-Adams
They make it up every day.
00:16:07
Kev
To be fair, it's a fantastic kind of way to explain it. But what you've got to add in there is some people who are having all them bills and things like Man United are massively in debt and shouldn't even be allowed to get a fridge freezer in the first place.
00:16:18
Nicola Pringle-Adams
and
00:16:24
Kev
49 credit cards in and we still can just sign players. Unbelievable.
00:16:29
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Lucky dinosaur present mate.
00:16:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
ahba credit scores through the roof and Amax are sitting there going you know you know what have a platinum card on us but the topic at hand and the sales of Almoron and Kelly do we think they'll give us a little bit of leeway in the market and if you could strengthen one position for a 25 to 30 million
00:16:33
Nicola Pringle-Adams
That was brilliant.
00:16:36
Kev
Hi. Brilliant. Thanks, Man United. You're a billion pound in debt.
00:16:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
would you and who would what position would it be all on new castle fine for this coming season kev what do you think do we need anybody or
00:17:08
Kev
and I don't know if we need anybody. I think the thing with these rules, I mean, we changed the name from financial fair play because we realised it wasn't fair and we turned it into profitability and sustainability rules, didn't it? PSO is now what it's called. So we've done that because they realise that we are we are limiting certain clubs. I think I think Newcastle have been quite clever. There was money in the summer, which hasn't reappeared yet. And I think we're being quite clever by saying our hands are behind our back, profitability, sustainability, all this stuff. But I think we're doing it so we don't get the Newcastle tax of, I think the days are gone where the takeover first happened and we want a Gordon like on the documentary on Amazon. And we said, we want 80 million for Gordon. And they were like, no.
00:17:52
Kev
Absolutely not. You've doubled what you really want. And then we got them for 40, which in turn looks like a fair price now.
00:17:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. 100%.
00:18:00
Kev
So I think it takes away the whole, well, Newcastle's coming in. We're going to rub our hands together and we're going to rip them off by 20 million. So I think it helps. This is a constant message from a club, but I think there is money there.
00:18:11
Kev
And I think if we are, I don't think we need the strengthen. It would be nice to strengthen. Fresh phases normally always help. Position-wise, it's really difficult. I think the right wing is the obvious answer, because ive everyone talks about we're short on right wingers and we'd love a Bakayoko or a Antony Alanga or a Justin Clivert after that performance on the weekend.
00:18:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, less said.
00:18:32
Kev
It's a case of that would be an obvious answer, but I honestly think we might need a striker.
00:18:37
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:18:38
Kev
If Isaac gets injured, Wilson, I love Callum Wilson. I will defend him to the hilt. He doesn't want his body to let him down. We don't want his body to let him down, but if Isaac gets injured, We're in big trouble, by the way. We could probably stick Gordon on the right for a couple of games and get through an injury to Murphy. We could probably stick Jordan on the right and get through a couple of games. I mean, Gordon could go on the right. You could put Barnes on the left. Barnes could go on the right. There's players who can play that position. Yes, we're not what we want right now, but that could maybe wait till the summer. I genuinely think we need a striker. If Isaac gets injured, we are.
00:19:11
Kev
Honestly, I like a Suley looks great, but you can't just chuck them in at the deep end like that. In Gordon, if you play him as a striker, you do lose that kind of a pi but strength on the left wing.
00:19:15
Nicola Pringle-Adams
No.
00:19:21
Kev
So yeah, if I could pick, I'd go striker, which is an unpopular opinion, but I guess that's what I'm here for.
00:19:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hey, and it's exactly the answer I wanted. Thank you very much, Kev. What do you think, Nick?
00:19:36
Nicola Pringle-Adams
To everything that Kev said, or my opinion on everything you said.
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Everything that I said, everything that Kev said, every single bit of it.
00:19:41
Nicola Pringle-Adams
and i'm
00:19:42
Kev
She can't swear so it's going to be tougher to do this.
00:19:45
Nicola Pringle-Adams
yeah I have said for a while, and this was before shot Cora Callan Wilson got injured again, a striker was probably needed.
Transfer Window Frustrations
00:19:53
Nicola Pringle-Adams
This is before Esak has hit the former of his life, obviously we've got Oshula, but we don't really see, we don't see much of him at all other than the old cup game here and there when obviously Esak is getting a rest.
00:20:04
Nicola Pringle-Adams
And I do agree with what Kev says, if but hopefully and not anywhere near the future, Esak does get injured, what do we do?
00:20:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:13
Nicola Pringle-Adams
what What do we do? We've got a really important run of games coming up. Like I said yesterday, we can't be losing players like that. So yeah, I think if we were to strengthen anywhere, obviously it would be um right wing, which we've always discussed, and that's always been discussed, and a striker. But my other argument is, what do we do if Lewis Hall gets injured?
00:20:32
Kev
Big damn burn, mad target.
00:20:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
that and
00:20:34
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, right. That's fine. But did they not do that at the weekend?
00:20:35
Kev
the forbit You could put Tino left back and bring Trippie in right back.
00:20:40
Nicola Pringle-Adams
and you know
00:20:42
Kev
Yeah, but that's a one-off game minute um the last 10.
00:20:44
Nicola Pringle-Adams
and
00:20:44
Kev
I think if Hall gets injured, we've got enough at left back. We've got Tino. Tino can come in.
00:20:48
Nicola Pringle-Adams
You say Matt Target, but when was the last time we seen Matt Target play?
00:20:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll get complete 10 minutes.
00:20:51
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, yeah, true. Okay, forget what I said then. Yeah, whatever. What were you guys say goes?
00:20:55
Kev
Yep, boys are correct. Well done, Mike.
00:20:59
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Move on.
00:21:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
All I said was Torgy could play 10 minutes. Didn't even exaggerate.
00:21:05
Kev
you're you're you're getting You're getting there, you're getting tired with the same bush as me, I like it, it's good.
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Always pwning at the deep end, always the bad guy. But it's fine. its one One thing I wanted to mention was we've spoke about Bournemouth and everyone sort of forgets how much Bournemouth have also spent alongside us. And when looking at who we're pretty much up against in regards to losses,
00:21:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
We are 90 million behind Arsenal who are in the world just one step ahead of us. And we're actually, we've actually ah ah over the last three seasons from transfers only lost 10 million more than Bournemouth.
00:21:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
9 million more than Nottingham Forest. So when you look at it that way, realistically there should be more there to spend for Newcastle.
00:21:50
Kev
Yeah, the club's being coy. I'm telling you now, I've been seeing this for a...
00:21:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:53
Kev
We're coming out with the same message all the time, so that when we bid for a player, they don't rub their hands together and be like, they've got $380 billion.
00:21:57
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:22:00
Kev
Let's ask for double, because the club will just say, look, listen to our interviews, listen to what Eddie said, listen to what Mitchell said, listen to what Caducey said. There's nothing there. We we are stuck. We will give you this money while we take it or leave it.
00:22:13
Kev
I think the club are sending a message, and I think I know fans get upset at times when they hear his stuff, but like we have to realize the game, they're going to play as businessmen. We're all very, very good businessmen.
00:22:21
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Mm.
00:22:23
Kev
We do not want to get ripped off on a, on a purchase or any sort of investment. So I think there's money there. There was money there my summer. ah I I think if Kelly goes and Mickey maybe goes, there's even more money there.
00:22:34
Kev
and I think it's just a case of let's just give him a chance. I think the big thing is Eddie only wants to bring in a player if it's a right player. I know he's going to bring in somebody to sit on the bench and make up the numbers. He wants somebody to add them a first team and if they're not going to add them a first team, he's not going to sign them.
00:22:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%. And sort of what I wanted to add, just to end off, was apparently we were willing to spend 70 million for Mark Way. My belief there is that it's 40 million or whatever, and then there's add-ons on top of it.
00:22:59
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Thank God we didn't.
00:23:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, thank God we didn't. But was the money there, like Kev is suggesting, or were we potentially, that Gordon sale, was that potentially actually, we were we ready for that to go through?
00:23:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do we think? Do we think the golden deal might have been a bit closer than we think, and that's why 70 million was on the table? Or are you sticking with what you said, Kev, of we're just being coy, we're being clever?
00:23:27
Kev
I think we are being clinked out. I think Gordon's interviews recently have been amazing. He's actually been really honest.
00:23:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, fantastic.
00:23:32
Kev
He's like, just let us play my football.
00:23:32
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, very honest.
00:23:34
Kev
People are making up things like I'm a footballer, just let me play. I have to read all this stuff in my summer and I can't really come out and say what I want to say because I'm negotiating a new contract. I think the club probably do have an idea of who we can let go and I think the club probably have an idea and as much as Newcastle fans don't want to hear this so but every player has a price and I think that is that is fair as much as we love the likes of Bruno and Isaac and all them.
00:23:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Great.
00:23:57
Kev
There will be a price which will be honest we'll be like that's too good to turn down and again we don't know how good I have, Isaac's amazing right we love him but is it Eddie Howe effect look what Eddie Howe's done with Jolynn and Jacob Murphy and Emile Kraft and he's that could be a very good striker, but he might play his best football for us in his whole career.
00:24:13
Kev
And we make 200 million off and we haven't got a clue. I'm not saying that's the case, but yeah, i think the club's just but your original question i I think the club's just being coy.
00:24:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's always possible.
00:24:20
Kev
And I think maybe if we did bring it in, we might've been forced into a sale of a Callum Wilson in the summer where he had like 12 months left or LSL defeats did fit. I think with the ba type of players we're going to try and not force out because I don't think we want that but we'll ship out if we get in somebody but I just think I've been very kind of a businessman and saying you know what we've got no money so you can take the 40 million or you can leave it but you're not going to ask 80 of us.
00:24:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:47
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:24:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
100%. Do you agree Nick?
00:24:49
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, completely. um We've said before, and I mean, we've done so many of these pods now. It must have been on one of the earlier pods of the season when the summer transfer window was what's happening. You know, football is a business. Now, I know we all love it. And we all, you know, love our clubs and plays, et etc. that Like Kev says, it is a business to these people. So if the right offer comes along for, you know, ISAC or any other player in the squad, and it makes our owners and Eddie and you know, look at it, then they will look at it. And it's like, yeah, it's just a business. And that's kind of how we've somehow got to look at it. Sometimes you have to take the emotion out of it, and look at it that way, because there will be a day where these players
00:25:27
Nicola Pringle-Adams
do have probably do move or do a go hopefully not in the near future obviously but yeah yeah completely agree I don't disagree with you this time Kev.
00:25:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%.
00:25:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely spot on. We're all getting along. Who would have thought?
00:25:38
Kev
Just.
00:25:39
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00:25:49
Kev
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00:26:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
absolutely cracking Kev thank you very much so we spoke about departures and potential arrivals for Newcastle both relatively long but also not a lot really to talk about so we've done fantastically there because two players out and probably no one coming in but I wanted to ask you both a question about Well, there's a little summary.
00:26:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
When I was growing up, I used to love the transfer window. I used to sit and watch Deadline Day every single year and I used to absolutely love it and I used to think transfers were the most exciting time of the year apart from big games.
00:26:48
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, it I don't know if it's just because I'm a bit older, but it never has that same excitement. There's never a Peter Rodden Wingy on Deadline Day or anything anymore. And as it stands, only Manchester City, Aston Villa, Crystal Palace, Ipswich Town, and Leicester City have made sign-ins in my two-thirds of the way through the window. So I'm not going to ask you.
00:27:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you believe PSR and financial fair play before it has ruined football transfers? Or do you think because of what Manchester City did to football and the Premier League it's actually been beneficial? Nick, I will start with you.
00:27:29
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Oh God, a million dollar question. I agree in the fact that I and I found, uh, find transfer windows very bleak, particularly the January
00:27:40
Nicola Pringle-Adams
there's nothing happens and I'm just going to sit here and say it. Teams are scared to spend money now because they're scared of the repercussions. We just sat here before the podcast saying we don't know ah when we're recording, sorry.
00:27:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Buh.
00:27:52
Nicola Pringle-Adams
We don't know the rules of financial fair play or PSR. So there will be some people somewhere within football that also can't keep up with it because they change and they change, you know, everything about it all the time. And it's impossible to keep up and no matter what you do. And then every other week there's something, you know, this club's been investigated for breaching psc PSR, this club's been investigated for this. It's just impossible to keep up with. So I don't know if that's maybe set the, not the fear, but sort of set a little bit of doubt into a lot of teams of,
00:28:20
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't want to spend this money right now because what if we do get caught out and they're not realising they're doing something. But the likes of sort of, you know, Chelsea, who seem to have unlimited money and sign every single player on a 10 year contract have ruined
00:28:33
Nicola Pringle-Adams
You've got, you know, Manchester City, which I cannot believe this, but Manchester City is just extended Harlan's contract by another nine years. I mean, that what is going on?
00:28:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
115 months.
00:28:44
Kev
Half a million, half a million a week as well by the way.
00:28:44
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't understand.
00:28:47
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, I don't understand.
00:28:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:48
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I still don't understand how they're just, you know, scot-free at the
00:28:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:51
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't get it. Yeah, I don't know. I think teams like that have ruined it for a lot of people. You've obviously got the smaller teams, well, the smaller teams, sort of the less rich teams, if you like, struggling to stay afloat and just sell, I wouldn't describe them as peasants, but yeah, know,
00:29:06
Kev
peasants.
00:29:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was us not long ago. ah
00:29:12
Kev
peasants.
00:29:18
Nicola Pringle-Adams
sad.
00:29:19
Nicola Pringle-Adams
um And yeah, I just think the transfer windows as the years have gone on, particularly as the rules have changed, it's got a bit boring. You don't see anything now, really. Yeah.
00:29:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
I completely agree.
00:29:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Kev, what do you think? Has PSR slash FFP ruined football transfers?
00:29:35
Kev
I think I could do a full episode on this with just what I want to get in and what's in my head at a minute. The first thing with your answer, I think... is it It may have ruined football, but I think ruined the transfer window.
00:29:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, I agree with that.
00:29:51
Kev
I I remember sitting in my room, right, and like, it would come on Sky Sports News, Rabinio signed for Mansi.
00:29:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
I hate them.
00:29:56
Kev
I was like, whoa, I've got to stay tuned and see this Rabinio coming to the Premier League, Manchester City.
00:29:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:02
Kev
What? but Now I would have seen my tweet eight hours beforehand. And when it's announced, I'm like, yeah, that's old news. Move on.
00:30:08
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:30:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:30:09
Kev
like Romano single a handedly room with transfer window. So let's get a ban on him, right? To start with, if we want the transfer window to come back to be fantastic. But PSR itself in terms of us, I feel like with it's like a double edged sword.
00:30:21
Kev
Would we love to spend all of our 300 billion? Of course, or would it would be absolutely iconic seeing the head loss of other teams when we literally just gather players for the fun of it?
00:30:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah, of course.
00:30:31
Kev
Like we just buy them bat base of 121 so you can wax on them every week. Like that would be, Unbelievable to see heads fall off, but also I feel like financial fair play in a way is helping us.
00:30:43
Kev
You can't you you can no longer buy. Let's go back and use an old example for the listeners who ah were too young to even know who this is. Sebastian Veron, or one Sebastian Veron, really good player, right?
00:30:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, yeah.
00:30:54
Kev
didn't work out in the Premier League, didn't work out for Manu. So what did we do? We just saw them really quickly and bought in somebody else. Now you can't do that because you are making an investment in a player. You cannot sell him for less than what you just bought him a year later, which encourages coaches and teams to give players a chance, work with the coach, can they improve? And when we're talking about things like that, we've got one of the best in the league at making players better and making them improve. So actually,
00:31:20
Kev
What Howe's having to do with Murphy and Crafton that is actually really helping us as a team because eventually we will sell them players for a big profit. Like look at Isaac, right? He's a great player. We bought him for 63 million.
00:31:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:31:32
Kev
Eddie Howe has turned him, not single handed, either team's good and Isaac has a lot of potential, but you look at this record in Spain, there's no way would anybody have ever said before he joined Newcastle that he'd be selling Isaac for 150 million.
00:31:44
Kev
right so we we have a coach who can actually turn these players don't just sell them a year later like pep pep brings in claudio bravo right is a number one goalkeeper for stupid amount of money he sells them after a year because he's not doing my job i can't bother to coach him i don't care about financial fair play sell bravo and bring in edison
00:31:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I would agree.
00:32:01
Kev
another 50 million spent because I can't be bothered to coach him.
00:32:03
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:32:05
Kev
We have the best manager who will take players in and be like, look what he's got with Dan Byrne. Like, come on. None of us thought Dan Byrne was that good, including me when he signed. I was like, what on earth are we signing?
00:32:16
Kev
Brighton's fourth place center half. Turns out he gets a goal against PSG and he's absolutely colossal. Like, we have a manager who can make profit off players.
00:32:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, it's boring now.
00:32:22
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:32:24
Kev
I think long-term, It will help us weirdly, but also it kind of takes the fun out of being the richest club in the world, doesn't it? So it's a double-edged sword for me, but in terms of ruining my transfer window, that's single-handedly for Britio Romano.
00:32:32
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:32:36
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Perfect.
00:32:38
Kev
So pick that out what you can.
00:32:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I hate it for Brittio Romano, I hate PSO, I hate FFP. Honestly, January, worst month of the year, dry jam, people have to stop, people try and stop drinking, get to the gym for two weeks.
00:32:49
Kev
Yeah. Who's going to a gym?
00:32:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nigga La and I e did a lot more than anyone else. You could bench press me and Kev at the same time, but people go, they go for a week and decide, you know what, that's not for me.
00:32:59
Kev
the eye.
00:33:03
Kev
It takes ages to get paid.
00:33:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm getting back on the Bevers and back on the Bevs. Well, exactly.
00:33:09
Kev
It's a grey sky every day. It was never a nice day.
00:33:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
exactly well that's that's a nice little positive okay yeah you know what i'm gonna leave it on that we've been the daily new castle podcast we love yous see yous later
00:33:13
Kev
Who's had a nice day in January? On top of that, you've got Fabrizio Romano. That was before it's about to hit Sky Sports. But we do have a manager who can turn a profit from buying average players.
00:33:26
Nicola Pringle-Adams
There we go!
00:33:27
Kev
That's it. Summed up in one. That's it. See you tomorrow.
00:33:29
Nicola Pringle-Adams
What happened?
00:33:30
Kev
Thanks for listening.
00:33:30
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Pod done!