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Ultra Trail Australia 2026 100km Preview

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The marquee race. With a field that matches the hype. Guidu Qin and Guomin Deng headline the international men's field fresh off the Hong Kong 100, but Mike Carroll, Matt Crehan, and Michael Dunstan won’t let them have it easy. On the women's side, can the up-and-coming Meg Sinclair and experienced Beth McKenzie take on international stars Katarzyna Dombrowska and Emily Mann? James and Brodie go deep on who can bridge the gap to the internationals, and why this year feels different.

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Preview of the 100k Race Weekend

00:00:16
Speaker
Welcome back to the Peak Pursuits podcast. And today, well, we're here, me and James are here on the same day, but you'll be hearing this maybe at a different time. We're going to preview the 100k race. So we've previously done the 22 and the 50. And now I guess we would call it the marquee event, the marquee race of the weekend in terms of its... history and I guess the live stream. So it's the live stream.
00:00:45
Speaker
It's got used to have the most prize

Course Description and Changes

00:00:47
Speaker
money. It's sort of like the key race. So um most iconic, I guess, given that it was the the where the where the event was born. um So, yeah, pretty cool event and it explores ah two different sides of ah two different valleys, I guess. So it's a bit more a bit more of an adventure than than the races we've covered so far. Not quite as much of an adventure as the miler, which we'll get to. um The back end of the 50k, the back end is the same as the 50k roughly, like a little bit different, but um roughly the same. And therefore, the course changes that we sort of talked about in the 50k is the same, not going down giant stairs and sort of coming around the top to Laura, ducking down a little bit and then and then going through Laura Falls. um
00:01:34
Speaker
And then the first half, not too many changes. There's ah small changes getting through Katoomba Town ah and probably a relief to maybe more of the...

Ladders Strategy and Aid Stations

00:01:49
Speaker
the mid and and backpack uh there is the the tariff's ladders have been opened back up so there's now two routes down at that that part of the course so you can either go down the ladder or where they've ah i assume they've been previously going down while the ladders weren't operational it's a single track but i know it's been massive but i have one my athletes do it last year and i think he was there for an hour Yeah, one of my guys was an hour 45. Yeah. And what they've said this year is that if it gets to more than a 10-person queue on the ladders, then they're going to divert you around the single track. And they've also, UTA just did a post. They've also added an aid station by sounds of it just before that. So you can get some drink and some food and have a nice relaxing time if you do get stuck in the queue still.
00:02:35
Speaker
Yeah, epic. I remember my athlete, like, he probably went in a, he probably, i think he did it in about 14 hours or something. So, he probably went in a start wave that was too slow. But I remember him, like, messaging me and being like, hey, I'm standing in, like, an hour-long queue. And I was like, just hit as much nutrition as you can now. Yeah. now's the time to fuel up and you'll be able to sort of like we can still make the most of this little rest. So, yeah, if anyone's in it's still waiting a little bit at that point of the course, I'd recommend just ah chilling out have a check check in with yourself, have some nutrition, have a drink.
00:03:09
Speaker
You'll be back at it very soon, hopefully. So hopefully that helps with the cues. But yeah, that's really the only other change. ah Interestingly, I was thinking, I saw some people commenting saying, is it quicker to go down the ladder or the single track? Like, do the front end of the field get to decide? Like, do they get to choose which route or do they have to go down the ladders? I'm not sure. I assume they have to go down the ladder. ah Like, that's the kit that's like the number one route. But like, what if the other way is faster? yeah I'd have to assume the single track is faster. And I can, I've just, I found the section, I think, on the Strava route. And it's it's not a big detour to go via the single track. Like, yes, the ladder is literally direct, but you have to get, i don't think you've got to attached on, but you have to be like properly put on by the safety marshals there and then take a time going down and it's in a couple of stages. so it is that's a good point, actually.
00:03:59
Speaker
Yeah, well, maybe... Maybe, like, just imagine if you get there with, like, a pack of 10 guys and you have to line up for the ladders. I like the idea of, like, you get there and you get to choose. And it's like, you see, like, some of the guys go to the ladder, some of the guys go down the single track.
00:04:16
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah. what do you What do you choose? Yeah, anyway. we yeah We'll have to find out afterwards what happens with the ladders. But, yeah. Yeah, that's the that's the only real difference from what we can tell from the course. So, yeah, not too much to talk about. um So we'll get we'll get straight into the fields, I guess. um So, yes, as we were sort of saying, the live stream will hope we'll be covering sort of this course, we think probably only, but not entirely sure. Yeah.
00:04:47
Speaker
And so we'll probably get to see a fair bit of this, which will be cool. um So in the we'll start with the women this time.

Key Contenders in Women's 100k

00:04:54
Speaker
So in the women, ah probably, yeah So the biggest name on the list, although James has some question marks on on whether she'll be here or not, is Lottie Brinks from Germany. um So Lottie was sixth at CCC last year.
00:05:10
Speaker
She was first at Desert Rats. 100k last year um and she was seventh at Tarawera in 2025 as well. so um So she had some big races. To put any contacts against someone who we will talk about in a moment, she was 25 minutes behind Beth at Tarawera. But obviously those results in those other two races, particularly CCC, is, um yeah, really incredible results. So she's a very high-level athlete. um She hasn't raced in 2026 yet.
00:05:42
Speaker
From what you've said, James, she's aiming for Western States. Yeah, so she her sixth at CCC ended up very recently getting a roll down, I think because of a pregnancy deferral from one of the athletes in front of her. So she had a lot of things all all locked in and then has had to kind of pivot her season. We've seen, as if you've listened to the 50K preview, that I've been caught out by a few people that have dropped out, but she hasn't been one of the people that has has done so but like I've just quickly looked up her ultra sign up which is the results uh was an entry system in the states and she's run way too cool 50k this year on March 7th and she was at Gorge waterfall she did the 100k there April 11th then she's done a local race called the Heaven's Gate 26k May 2nd which again is four days from us right now so I'm pretty sure we can guarantee that she's not going to be coming for this race
00:06:33
Speaker
Yeah, okay. That's a shame. Well, it is, especially considering that she won Gorge, which Gorge is a pretty competitive race. Why is that not showing up on UTM? I don't think they put...
00:06:46
Speaker
Oh, it's Daybreak Racing with Free Trails. I'm surprised it's not on there. It is there. I don't know why I skipped over that. ah ah So it would have been amazing to have seen her and hopefully it's she she has shown that interest.
00:06:58
Speaker
um Maybe it means that, yeah, in the future she'll she want to come across. I'm assuming she was choosing it to get her ticket back to CCC because 6th Place doesn't get you a ticket back the next year, which is a real shame.
00:07:11
Speaker
so but yeah hopefully we do see her in future years. Lottie, if you're listening to this, which you are almost certainly not, please come over. It'd be great to have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, unfortunately, probably not. um But, um yeah, all the best at Western Stakes. So next on the next on the list, so a little bit of a jump down in terms of index because Lottie's was pretty high, um is Katharina Dombrowska from Poland. She runs for ON. ah She...
00:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, had a look at her results. The ones I pulled out here was the 22nd at World Trail Champs last year on the long course, which is a pretty impressive result. This year, she's run Trans Grand Canaria earlier in the year, but DNF that. And then I think, don't. have any other results i found on strava she did the polis short trail champs i don't think was popping up in any of the systems but she came first there so okay sweet um yeah yeah she's an interesting one like having been over in vervier last year with the intentions of running the course we looked at some of the course and it's a very hard 60k she took the win there in 2024 she's taking third at trans grand canaria atk uh in 25 and then fourth at laborator atk like
00:08:30
Speaker
We're talking about some very, very impressive performances and then fifth at CCC four years ago, five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. So even though we have- Last year she was like third at the 100K Trans Grand Canaria, third at Tenerife. She was fourth at La Verita 80, which is competitive. Very, very competitive. So she's definitely, she's a big name to have over here. uh in in this field as we kind of see the yeah there's some good international names yeah yeah yeah other one for me was yeah yeah so emily man coming across from canada she has just dnf'd the gorge waterfalls 50k uh but prior to that last year she had sixth ultra cape town 100k which a sixth may not sound amazing but cape town is typically a a very competitive under k Uh, she also had a 10th at black Canyon. Again, that's a golden ticket, very competitive early season, hundred K in 2025, um, a top 50 at the long trail. So probably I would say on the same, the same sort of level as we'll get to some of the Australian or living in Australia in Australia athletes that we've got, but adding, adding a a nice level of competition to the the top side of the field this year.
00:09:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. And they're they're probably the the big um overseas names. There's also Yvette Brady from Ireland and Genevieve Nadeau from Canada ah and Julia Grant, I guess, from New Zealand. um So they're some high ranked runners as well. um But yeah, then I guess even before we get to some of the other Australians, um showing up as US on this list because she's still American citizen is Beth McKenzie who's running the 100K. She's back running again this year. Last year she had a massive year. Like she had such a such a big season. um Even ah we were talking about her in the preview this time last year and it was when she had like those double stress reactions in her tibias I think they were.
00:10:31
Speaker
And then she come out and won. I'm sorry. Came second at UTA. It was, yeah, I was crazy. So, and then she didn't really stop there. She sort of continued on um probably more like crazy. Like she had a,
00:10:49
Speaker
pretty good result at CCC I don't think she would was super happy with it but like on paper a decent result um but then like probably the standout was a javelina run at the end of the year 100 miles second place there 14 30 for 100 miles just bonkers yeah And Javelina, her ah debut golden ticket event, which adds to the the long list of golden tickets that Beth is accumulating. It yeah is very impressive. she had the DNF earlier this year at Tower Era. She had a substat come out recently
00:11:24
Speaker
I think it was this week where she was talking about, she got some bloods done. actually She's coached by Megan Roach. I think she actually got the bloods done before Tarawera, but just chose not to look at the results because it was like right at the race time.
00:11:35
Speaker
And it came back with very like low iron, low ferritin, low hemoglobin, sort of borderline anemic. And so they've been addressing that. She's had an infusion at the the correct volume to be wider compliant.
00:11:48
Speaker
And we've now seen her go first at Noosa 25, second at Buffalo behind Kate, first at Brisbane Trail Marathon um a few weeks ago. so and And seemingly reading her sub stack, like getting her mojo back, feeling good in training, like the levels that she was saying that she had. And and we we unfortunately see this quite a lot.
00:12:08
Speaker
in runners that we were ah quite a belligerent bunch and we will just keep doing things where majority of the population would probably stop doing things. And she was in that case of like levels that you would really struggle to get out of bed. And and and Beth was still training really hard. So it's no surprise that she struggled when it came to the race environment at Taro era. And I would, if you're reading this and you're struggling for for energy or motivation and have a have a little look of her.
00:12:32
Speaker
her substack because I think is' it's it's a a point to just get get your bloods done and have it make sure that you know exactly where you are on a few key things but Beth on this course first and a second and yeah when I listen back to the preview we did last year this morning we did include her in our top threes but we were saying that it was literally a two weeks prior that she was saying double stress reactions like low grade obviously but having to really nurse it through and then to come second it was just incredible Mm, yeah, yeah. And I get more to stay healthy afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It opened my eyes to like how...
00:13:11
Speaker
stress reactions can be managed in a lot of different ways and like recently actually like i don't know for for anyone who is interested in that sort of stuff like listen to uh there's a inside running uh interview with seth uh o'donnell talking about his stress reactions or fracture stress reactions or maybe it was even fracture last year and how they managed it which was very non-normal way to manage it um so it's sort of like I think Beth was sort of like the start of my brain going like it's not always just the same management. Yes, you've got to be super careful. I'm not saying people should do what Beth did. She always had a team behind her doing what she was doing. um
00:13:49
Speaker
But it's also not like a one-size-fits-all. And some people need to have 8 to 12 weeks completely off in a moon boot and some people can start trying to do some modified exercise. So I thought that was super interesting and I was ah When she did at UTA last year, i was sort of like, wow, that seemed like a silly idea. But now like having that broader context and like going and sort of like, wow, that was impressive. Yeah. And I think it speaks down to so much that there are there are multiple ways to manage. There's also so many reasons why you can have a bone stress injury and make if you are working with the correct practitioner that understands that.
00:14:25
Speaker
the the return to run or the or even just the the management is going to look very specific like if you take someone like myself that had a high grade femoral shaft twice doing what breath did would have not worked but obviously it's a very different context for for why it's there the grade it is where it is and therefore the management but it definitely it is from a a coach's perspective and a practitioner perspective as well for you brody like it it it was eye-opening of like okay We don't have to lump everything into the same thing. We definitely, or I definitely am not qualified to to say what that that that that recovery process is, but it doesn't have to be always a hard stop. I have to give so many caveats right now, but it was really impressive to see. And it was great to see Beth then use that as a launching pad to have an incredible rest of the season.
00:15:10
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And it's like i hadn't i hadn't read the substack about her iron and and it probably fits with where i I thought her Tarawara one was sort of like a ah sort of like outsider in terms of a result. Like it's seemed a bit weird and maybe that fits a little bit with that picture. um and And she ran really well at Buffalo, especially given it probably wasn't, of course, a suited bet very well. She still ran really well there and she still would have been recovering because iron takes so long to kick back in, whereas she's probably hitting the sweet spot now. So um hopefully she's coming into her straps. And um yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what she can do. She did win in 2024. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Great.
00:15:54
Speaker
So it would be cool to see her back on top and with the field as it is now, it wouldn't be out of the question for her. And it would be like ah an impressive day to win as well, beating a field like that is assembled. So, yeah, I'm very excited to see her.
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely do not think it is out of the question for Beth to take this win. It's not going to be as clear-cut. It's probably a 2024. Not that 2024 was an obvious win for her, but I think she was probably the standout in that field, at least marginally. But yeah, it's she's going to be great I think the the thing I think about, though, is that when you, and as someone that's had very similar to iron levels and hemoglobin levels to what what Beth had and had an infusion and had to take the process to get back, especially the low hemoglobin levels. and The hematocrit that comes with that as well is that just it might take you three months to kind of get your levels back, but the training that you've been doing in that time as well is like how much has that actually caused an adaptation of this how much you've been able to absorb it. And so like,
00:16:54
Speaker
it's kind of like that that three months period and then you need another three months to get back so maybe beth was still not quite hitting a stride but then having looked at her her recent runs i would say that my entire point was just mute but yeah still worthwhile yeah yeah um I don't know who you were sort of going to talk about next, but I was going to, I sort of wanted to jump into a few of the other Aussies. um First and foremost was Meg Sinclair, who we had on the podcast recently. um She won KMR and also took down a course record there. That was a pretty decent course record from Maggie Lennox. um She was fifth in the 100 last year, so and that was a pretty competitive field, the the women's 100K last year. Yeah. um
00:17:38
Speaker
So she's experienced this course. She looks like she's taken it to another level this year. um She looks to be training really well. um So, yeah, I'm excited to see see how she can sort of shape up in this in this field. um Yeah. Any thoughts on Meg?
00:17:54
Speaker
I think the run that she was able to put in at KMR was a level of performance. Like to beat Maggie on that course, the way that Meg ran it as well, hearing her talk about her mindset about it, that got me really excited. And then also knowing the fact that she's already got experience on this course. Like last year we saw Eve Moore winning 10.55. Meg was only an hour back and she was ahead of people like Nicole Patton, as she said. So she's, to me, at least it looks like as a trail runner, has really...
00:18:21
Speaker
leveled up over the years. She's kind of made that transition a bit more, spending a bit more time there, training with a bit more purpose. It kind of sounded like she used to go a bit kind of train for a race, chill, train for whatever kind of next seemed excited. Whereas it does seem like she's made a very conscious effort to train for UTA through KMR this year. So Meg, I have, I have her down as not that she really should be, but I have her down as my, my dark horse in this field that if Meg ended up in honestly first, second or third, I would not be that surprised.
00:18:49
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The same for sure. Yeah, I think she she could win, um yeah which would be crazy. i really good yeah The field is epic and that would be massive for her, I'm sure. So, um yeah, it'd be yeah little looking forward to seeing how how Meg runs. um ah And then, yeah, a couple of... Sorry, you have... No, I was going to say a couple of common names you you quickly mentioned before that i do think when you're looking at their indexes, they might not necessarily stand out, but just looking a bit more of the actual results themselves. Like Genevieve Nadeau from Canada, she had a fourth at the Big Alt 100k this year. And Big Alt is another one of the free free trail daybreak racing events. And they just do a great job of bringing very competitive fields. So it is it is just...
00:19:38
Speaker
yeah It's probably a bit like having a fourth at Buffalo 100K would be my guess, sort of equal competitiveness level. So I think Genevieve could be someone that potentially not first, second, but talking about that podium contention in that third place battle, which is often the one that's really up for contention, I feel like we don't often see a clear one, two, three.
00:19:59
Speaker
or clear podium separating, I think she definitely could be. And then Yvette Brady, she's been living in Oz. I think we spoke about her before or in the preview for Buffalo. She came fifth at Buffalo 100K. She just won Wilson's Prom 50K last weekend in a training up to UTA.
00:20:14
Speaker
up to uta From what I can gather, looking at it, looked very in control. She was the lady that just went in 2025. She kind of some good, but very... did some like good but in credit like but very sound really like bad but like very average level results like ah very good results but nothing special nothing we would talk about on a preview show for example and then from what i understand from nicole pattern she got a coach dialed things in which is definitely is a setting point for a coach um and has just made a huge step up and so like second to surf case century i think she was high nine hours which was still 45 minutes or so behind zoe manning but a very good step up and then
00:20:54
Speaker
Fifth at GPT, 50K. And then most, the one that really impressed me was the fifth at Buffalo Stampede, 100K, because this year was really, really quick. So yeah yeah again, when we're talking about that... She went from a GPT 50 of 11 hours, 50 to six hours. Yeah. Yeah. Like she went, yeah. And she went from a, like a 13th place at Buffalo, 20 K, 16th, actually 50 K. But like the times are back a bit like great times, but not, not what we're talking about on a previous show. Yeah. So she's, she's one that I think that when you're on that kind of trajectory and each time you do a hundred K distance, especially you learn, you dial things in, you bring something new to the, to the training and also to the race for the next one.
00:21:32
Speaker
ah Yeah, i think I think Eve will be a very good third place. But it's it's it's really tricky. but we've have have you Have you spoken about Julia already? have i If I blank that one out.
00:21:43
Speaker
Well, yeah, sir I mentioned her name. There's so many people. But yes, she's another one who's who had a yeah great 2025. Yeah, Julia Granson, the one that probably stands out the most out of the people i've just said because she is the fourth place finisher from UCA. So that is one place ahead of Meg.
00:22:02
Speaker
yeah Although I think that Meg has significantly stepped up from there. And she's had a other couple of really good performances and in 2025. It looks like she had quite a, for what I can tell, a significant injury at back in the last year. There was some aqua jogging and then not much kind of on Strava after that. So my guess is she she dealt with a bit of a, troubled end of the year so um and my notes are kind of being that it doesn't look like she adds everything to strava but if she does she's coming in very low volume uh much lower than what she did in 2025 so she might not be in the same shape but as our fourth place return and definitely someone we have to be mentioning
00:22:38
Speaker
yeah yeah for sure um yeah and then there was uh yeah had a couple of australians just to sort of ah highlight a few of them because i think they're mostly covered overseas people um so we have uh anna pilleniger and lou clifton are both running um both very experienced um both sort of i'm sure we'll be maybe picking up some people in the back half of the race um so yeah i'm sure they will both be running very well um and hand who's coached by quinton gill she seems to have been getting better and better um she was 11th in the uta miler last year she was fifth at utk uh at ultra trail cosy 100k end of last year and then she was second at six foot track earlier this year so um
00:23:28
Speaker
yeah she just looks like she's on an upward trajectory as well um i think she was also i think she was also second behind sarah levitt at the um that clifftop run so showing some good speed as well which is really interesting she's she's one like utmb gives you these nice index graph rankings and it's just this nice progression like just step changes up and up yeah yeah yeah yeah she was definitely one one of my ones to watch Yes. Yeah. And then ah the last one who's actually one of the higher ranked Australians is Jamie Bergman. She has some results from 2024. Well, she was first at Margarova Ultra in 2024, first at Surfco Century 100K in 2023.
00:24:15
Speaker
can't seem to find anything from her since 2024. Yeah. Not everything's on UTMB or ITRA. And I'm not sure she has all of her training on Strava and that sort of stuff. um So, yeah, she's a bit of an unknown, but she has had some really good results in the past. So she definitely won worth mentioning.
00:24:33
Speaker
Yeah, I had had the same. The only other person that, uh, I had to mention was Buhar Bali who yeah has ah had a third at cozy 124. Um, hasn't had sort of the recent results to show that same form. I don't need to go into, to, to kind of too much deep detail with her, but just another one, the potential potential ones to watch that you never know. You get, we get, we get surprised every race by somebody that comes through and could be one of the names.
00:25:01
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, definitely. um Yeah, so that's ah that's the women's 100K. I guess we probably missed, sorry, one last one before we leave, who's just below or just above Bua Bali in the rankings is Naomi Brand. So Naomi's, I forgot, i was like, I know that name from somewhere. um She's been doing trail running for a long long time. I think she knows Kelly Angel quite well. um So she's got a lot of results from like some of her best results from, say,
00:25:30
Speaker
2016 to 2019, even into 2022, maybe been a little less competitive over the last few years, but she's still been in and amongst it, including six at UTA 100 2024. So, she's probably someone that's worth mentioning, although there's lots of people that are worth mentioning. Yeah.
00:25:53
Speaker
it's It's so tricky. and it's a thing agree We're always going to be leaving people off. like Naomi, she was sixth last year. like ah Great, great performances. but it's um yeah it is It is hard, especially when we are picking that that podium potential. You're trying to balance it with new and up-and-coming people as well. Exactly.

Introduction to Men's 100k Contenders

00:26:10
Speaker
All right. Well, one list that we're definitely not going to mention all of them because it's one of the longer lists is the men's 100K. And again, another fantastic field. I think I was saying on the 50K one, I think maybe this is my pick for second best field potentially, although the men's 50K is quite good.
00:26:28
Speaker
ah But yes, it definitely a very... Good field. And what I'm excited about is the ah ensemble of Australian 100K runners. This one. And it's the guys who go back to back. They seem to go at each other every year and some new ones in the mix as well. So I'm very excited about that. But um I guess we'll start with the three international runners because they are the highest ranked and Possibly will be the top three, although I think some of the Australians could compete. um But we've got two Chinese runners. First is, um um I'm probably not going to get these ones right, um but let's say Gu Du Quynh.
00:27:09
Speaker
I it's the other way around for Chinese athletes. i think it's Quynh. Okay, yeah. twin do light okay yeah Yeah, sorry. We've probably absolutely butchered that, but we'll we'll go with that. His results are very impressive.
00:27:24
Speaker
He's got a lot of Chinese races, but he's also had some he's had plenty of races outside of China as well. But this year, he was first at the Hong Kong 100. Um, that was a race that I actually looked at the results at the time because it was Mikey Demiante's run. Unfortunately, had to pull out, but they ran incredibly fast. Um, like so quick. Um, and he was the winner. So yeah, super impressive, uh, time for that race. Um, like you look at the, I was looking, i remember looking at some of the segments of, of the climbs and that sort of stuff because I was looking at Mikey's and they were just like absolutely flying. So he's.
00:28:01
Speaker
going to be yeah and and and I guess the thing of note there is stairs that he's he's going to know how to handle stairs um so yeah he was first in that race first in a 50k in China recently ah can't remember what the name was but I think it was called the north face actually which is what the uta used to be called so maybe it's fate um yeah the north face 2026 North Face, he did the 50K and he got the win there. um So, yeah he's ah yeah, he seems to be in good shape this year outside of China. um He was 10th at CCC last year, so that's a...
00:28:41
Speaker
Definitely an impressive result getting in the top 10. He's also been ah second at Mount Fuji 100 mile in 2024. So he's definitely had some good results outside of China. um And then his compatriot, sorry, is it called, compatriot, if they're from the same country?
00:29:01
Speaker
that the right word? So it's Deng Guimin, maybe? Yeah. He came third in in that same Kong. feel like we should say we've been recording about two and a half hours at this point. so yeah Yeah. Forgive us if get this quite perfect.
00:29:15
Speaker
I should have asked Sim for the Chinese pronunciation. She started learning a little bit of Chinese, so I'm sure she would have had it under control. or So we'll get her next time. Yeah, he was third in that Hong Kong 100 race earlier in the year that I was talking about. It was really fast. um He's mostly raced in China, but again, he's run a bit outside of China. He was 11th at Lavarito last year, the big one, 120, and he was second at the Mount Fuji Mila in 2025. So both him and Quinn Guido have been, yeah, second at the Mount Fuji Mila. So they're probably the big names coming in.
00:29:53
Speaker
Yeah, they are. Deng has, and i don't don't think it's even up on the results yet, he was second at Mount Fuji, Mila, this year. Oh, this year. Like, a week and a half ago. So, yeah if he turns up, he's definitely going to be up there. i wouldn't I wouldn't put it past some of the Asian athletes to do that double. definitely seen it loads of times before and and executed.
00:30:16
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really well but yeah the those two are definitely in in in a but a very high high league and like looking at the results from from that the hong kong 100 this year the athlete that split them was meng wang fu who has had some incredible results on the international feed and then dakota jones is in fifth fifth Stingray, John Rainey for, sorry, Dakota James in fourth, Stingray's in fifth, like, but Stingray was an hour back by then and Dakota was but nearly half an hour off Quinn. So yeah, very, very fast, fast running. I think the thing we can guarantee with, especially the Chinese, I think, yeah, they're going to be good.
00:30:55
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pretty much whatever the conditions are and going feel very comfortable on the stairs, probably very comfortable on the ladder. um And they're also going to be like to run the sort of times they're running over trails. They've got to be fast athletes as well.
00:31:07
Speaker
Yes, yeah, most of them are incredible marathon athletes as well. yeah And we know how fast Shen Jiasheng ran last year, 9.26, to sort of beat Mike Carroll by about 22 minutes. So sort of ran away with it early in the day. So, yeah, I'm assuming we might see a similar story of the two Chinese athletes heading off and maybe disappearing a little bit. But yeah, they're definitely going to be contenders, although 100 mile or not that long ago. we'll see Although they always seem to bounce back from those ones.
00:31:40
Speaker
Yes, they they do. i I feel like that could be asking a bit much for for Deng, but you never know. Yeah, yeah. um Then we've got the third international runner, Adrian McDonald from the US. um Adrian was third at Tarawira in 2025. He was second at Leadville in 2024, so he's ah run some some decent races. um if I don't know if I saw a result at Western States. Did I see a result at Western States? I did. Sorry, he wasn't that good. That's why i didn't write it down. Yeah. So he was 35th outright, 22nd male at Western State. So he didn't maybe have the best day there. um
00:32:26
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But he had started the year this year with 30K at Gorge Waterfalls where he came sixth um But that was a pretty competitive race.
00:32:37
Speaker
I think anything he was probably, he was about 10 minutes behind the lead there. But the top guys are like world class. Yeah. So, yeah. i think Adrian's an interesting one I would probably say that on paper, he he is a step above...
00:32:52
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the likes of some of the Aussies that are in the field. But I also think that he's probably, if we're assuming the two Chinese athletes, even if they are fatigued, are sort of ahead. I do think he's somebody that we could see some of our guys getting up to. Like he's an incredibly good athlete, a lead field champion. He was second to David Roach when when when david ran.
00:33:12
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um But i feel i feel like it would be a it would be a big victory for some of the Aussies to to take down Adrian, but I feel like he is slightly vulnerable to to just the level of competition that we're we're bringing to this event.
00:33:27
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Yeah, for sure. he's He's probably the most beatable of those top three. um But like you said, he's still an incredible athlete with some some really superb performances. So, um yeah, i I actually think the Aussies might get him, but we'll see. um He's in the Blue Mountains. I saw him do a run with Benson Lawrence yesterday or the day before.
00:33:49
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um So he's already here and getting prepared. So, Yeah, he's at least taking it seriously. So, um yeah, I'll be excited to see see how he goes. Moving on to the Aussies, we do have a couple more internationals, but I'll give them a quick mention towards towards the end because I do believe that the the fight from this point is going to come from from the Aussies.
00:34:10
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Yeah. The first one, we've got Mike Carroll, second place, returning. as ah As you said, we have a really fun battle of guys here. We've got... um Brett Gibson coming back, who was third. We have Matt Crean coming back, who was fourth. And then along with Mike Carroll first. um like it's's It's fun to see essentially everyone that came in behind Shenzhen last year and that that immediate battle.
00:34:35
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Yeah, we're just missing George Murray. Otherwise it would be the ah the classic 100k UTA boys. And that all of them. And it is like the, the names are guess sort of highlight, highlighting Michael. We know Mike's in in good form. had a second recently to Charlie at Buffalo marathon, but very much knowing that UTA was the focus. matt rayn with control was on that day well Yeah, he was very in control as did as did Matt Crean, who was in th third um to to Mike there. And I i think we said in in the preview and even in our picks that sort of over over that distance, I would would have Mike ahead of Matt. But then that gap definitely closing.
00:35:14
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i I've not seen Matt Crean train this well for this long, in a probably ever. ah He's he's so so been so dialed in. I feel like the move has really suited him.
00:35:26
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He's no longer having to commute between Melbourne and his partner's place. like i'm he He feels like he's set up a lot better now and trained lot better coming into this UTA versus last year. So I do think that just because Mike took Matt and so did Rhett last year, that it's not a guarantee that it's going to end up in that that same order this year.
00:35:45
Speaker
Yeah, Matt's always trained pretty well. yeah um And I've always, i don't know, for the last, like I obviously had that massive year where he was ultra runner of the year and he got some such awesome results. And he's had some good ones since then. But I've been i've been waiting for him to have like, it was similar to Mike. I was sort of waiting for Mike to have some really good results. And and he'd had good results, but like really good results, which I think he had a few of them last year. yeah And ah I'm sort of waiting for those from Matt. And I think, like you said, I just jumped on his Strava because I hadn't really looked at it in big picture. And I looked at the last few months and it's just like he's just consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent. Like out of everyone in this list of the Australians, he's been the most consistent. His training looks the best. And although his training has been good previously, like you said, I think
00:36:40
Speaker
It might be really good, might be even better now. And yeah think I'm waiting for that race and this might be the one, i think. Like he has had amazing races in the past, but i'm just I've been waiting for one at the same level, if not a little higher. um And I think this one potentially might be the one. The only thing I see when I look, and because I just have to be a bit of a downer on this, when I see someone that's had that consistent a training that Matt has, I just question, like, have they pushed through things that they shouldn't have pushed through at certain points? Now, I think that Matt wouldn't have done this, but I do question, like, were there a couple of sicknesses that he went through? Was there a niggle that he's pushed through or even managing? And that's going to crop up when you do push yourself to the level. So that's that's the only caveat to that. But putting that caveat aside, i completely agree with you. Like,
00:37:29
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Matt has been putting in the work for long enough and you know him really well. I know him pretty well. feel like there's still more to Matt from a performance perspective than what we've been seeing in the last few years. Yeah, if he's put the phone away and not taking pictures and he finds that next level for him, I think that I genuinely... It's all the phone's fault. It's the picture's fault.
00:37:52
Speaker
He's not doing Diverge. He's doing... so Yeah. And yeah, definitely carry a phone because that's mandatory gear and we've just seen overseas of that that is something that you have to do. But just maybe don't don't take it out for the photos. But yeah, I do believe that um especially...
00:38:07
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If Deng is coming in tired, we've got Quinn up front. like Again, a bit like I said with Meg, it would not surprise me if I saw Matt coming in second and and potentially even close closer than we we expect him to because it's kind of it's easy to forget with Matt because he is training sort of those 100-mile weeks. But dude's got wheels.
00:38:27
Speaker
He's a really fast, really strong runner. He's strong. He's strong. he I remember him hiking past me in a VK once, which um was pretty disappointing. Yeah. And I'm supposed to be the short distance guy. So, yeah, he's he's super strong and he's still, like you said, he's still got wheels. um that All that being said, I still had in my list that Mike Carroll was my Aussie pick. um And I think, yeah, I'm just more so saying that, like, after what I saw from Mike last year, i think i think Matt can maybe raise to that level. But I still think, yeah, i'm i'm i'm Mike is probably the one that I'm,
00:39:04
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um i'm i' I'm leaning towards out of all the Aussies, um particularly with these, like he's shown that he has wheels over these courses as well, like rollercoaster 46K last year, super fast, six-foot track, really quick time last year. um At the back end of the year, like I said, Buffalo, he was 10 minutes ahead of Matt Cranet or a bit under 10 minutes ahead of Buffalo. So he's still maybe a bit faster over that shorter stuff. But like you said, where does that,
00:39:31
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Where does that come out? does We know Matt's done milers in the past. Like, does that does that come out at 100K? And I think it probably does. So those two, I think, is going to be a good battle. And then, look, there's still three, three four, five, six others. Probably them of note, and the one I'm...
00:39:47
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Really excited to see who I think, again, has has wheels that we don't really think of him as having wheels is Michael Dunstan. Yes. He doesn't race heaps, but when he races, he seems to race really well, um maybe aside from his DNF at UTMB last year, which I'm sure um is a bit of a sore spot for him um but yes so last year he was first in buffalo 100k um in 2024 he was third in ultra trail snowdonia in 2023 as first and in gpt miler um earlier this year he ran that really quick time on the razorback good loop course ahead of george knight and matt crean um so yeah michael dunston although i haven't
00:40:32
Speaker
I haven't picked him as maybe the Aussie I've got my eye most on. I think maybe I'm selling him short. He lives in the Blue Mountains. he He's trained in these areas so much. He's lived in the Blue Mountains for several years. um Yeah, he's definitely one to watch.
00:40:48
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I guess it's just we don't know exactly where he's at because we don't see him race as much. I think i i respect that about Michael that he's not jumping in. Like he he races when he genuinely feels ready to race. And if everything that he's doing is on Strava compared to when he did Snowdonia, he's definitely changed up his approach quite a bit. It has a lot more of a speed focus. Like obviously Snowdonia, the specifics of that was like Snowdon was a ridiculous course that took 26 or seven hours for him or something, something that ballpark. But he's He'll be a lot more powerful now. I think he'll be a lot more durable as well um in the sense he's able to put that output as he's fatiguing as well. He's not just a a monster going up and down. so yeah it but it is it is tricky to know where where he's sitting because if you do look at his Buffalo 100k from last year when we just saw what George and Knight did to that time this year,
00:41:39
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If you were to have thrown, say, a Mike Carroll and a Matt Crean in that same context, are they going close to that time? from ah From a time perspective, we are talking about pretty similar finishing times. UTA probably runs a little bit quicker, um even just judge just judging off what um what george George did. So, yeah my I think that Mike is probably the one that well, he will have the most course specificity.
00:42:07
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He will be incredibly dialed in. That's his personality. Like, he's he's going to be ready. He's just up up against a lot of competition this year, and I don't know if he's going to have it to beat the guys we've just spoken about.
00:42:21
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Yeah. Yeah, I guess for me it's just a bit of an unknown. Like, I don't ah don't know what he's like on a faster hundred k um i I think he'd be, I honestly think hed be he'd be very, very competitive. I think that maybe he wouldn't have the same five k time as some of these guys, but I think what he looks like from his training... I think he might have faster one.
00:42:42
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Well, I think that but but potential potentially, that but I think that what I see with him that he does really well is he's very fast at a more aerobic pace, like his capacity to move at a sub-maximal effort, and so your aerobic threshold is nuts.
00:43:00
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And i think so I think that is really where it's going to come should come through. And then you add that to the specificity of being on the course, I think that that's going to really work in his favour. Yeah, when I said I don't know about him, I'm pretty sure you've convinced me that he'll be in the top three. I think as I'm talking about him, I'm convincing myself that he is as well.
00:43:19
Speaker
Yeah, I think i like I hadn't fully conceptualized it and now you've helped me you've helped me come to that. So thanks for my tipping advice. That's right. um I'm here to help. The other two Aussies, and we'll go through a few commendable mentions, but the other two I've really got my eyes on. i think it'd be hard to go past Brett Gibson third last year um when we're talking about Matt Crean who came fourth last year. So he has to be in the conversation. yeah um Training looks to have been going well. I saw any Strava. He ran up...
00:43:46
Speaker
in in Blue Mountains recently and he was sort of commenting that he got some PBs on some of the climbs. So like I'm sure he's in similar if not better shape it sounds like. So um yeah, he will definitely be in the conversation. And then Ben Burgess, um this will be Ben's, he did go to World Champs last year, but this will be his most competitive Australian race I guess that we'll see him in and especially up against this field of super experienced 100k runners like all of them are really experienced over the 100k distance and whilst ben's done lots of different races he hasn't done lots of races of this type before um so yeah i'm i'm really interested to see how we go because like we know ben had an amazing season last year he had the course record at kmr and world champs they're probably the two that stood out to me um
00:44:42
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he then if we combine that compare that to say earlier this year where he started to try and work on his speed and trying and to sort of like he hasn't been training for a long time so he's he's got ah he's got a lot of years of of work that he can do which is great um but he was fifth at the short trail champs and he was 28 minutes behind mike so It's like I'm not sure where he's going to shape up in this field. um He has been training really well, um but it' is it that we're going to see an amazing result from him in a year or two years rather than right now? I'm not sure. Yeah, I think with, well, firstly with with Rhett, it looked to me like his training is probably on par with where he was last year. And and so if he's been healthy but healthy that time, like yeah yeah we have to imagine that from a purely fitness perspective, that all those guys that were there last year are coming back a level fitter. Like last year, we were talking about Mike Carroll literally having a baby, two or his wife having a baby two weeks before the event. So like he also has that element, which is a question to myself. It's like, is it better to have a newborn or is it better to have a one-year-old and you've had your sleep interrupted for the last year? so
00:45:49
Speaker
assuming that they're able to execute on the same level, we know that the performance is going to increase. might be by a percent, it might be by a few percent, but it's going to jump up. Can Ben run at that pace? Like, can he set a, if we say the course is going to run exactly the same time, can can he run a 9.45, which is roughly what Mike ran last year for second, which is probably what it's going to take to to podium on this course, potentially even faster.
00:46:12
Speaker
I think I'm in agreement with you, Brady. I'm i'm i'm really excited for Ben's future. i think that what he's doing is right, but i just don't think it's going to be now that it's going to come together for him. I just think that that he needs he's going to need a few more months, maybe maybe next year, that we're really going to see Ben shine in his performances.
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. And i don't I don't think it should be seen as ah in a negative anyway. It's a massive positive. He needs to be on this start list to get the experience of running these because that's what I literally just said. He hasn't done that many 100Ks. So he needs to be on the start list. um And he like I still think he has capacity to be in the top five, top three even. I just don't know if it's going to happen this year. But I think being there is going to be really important for his development and he's going to be he's going to be the Matt Crean and the Mike Carroll in three to five years.
00:47:00
Speaker
And what Ben's doing with Kate, his coach, is really important and something that I, again, I really respect is that he's not getting distracted by the bright, shiny race that's coming up immediately. He's gone, like I can feel the potential. i want to see what it's there. And I know this is going to take time. And this is the goal that's in 18 months, three years, five years. That's where I want to get to. And so they're laying that foundation now to do it.
00:47:24
Speaker
And it does mean you're probably going to go into some races and you might be really dialed in a few spots, but just not dialed in the others because that's not the plan yet. And so, yeah, when I say that he's not like, I don't think this is going to be the day that Ben is capable of. It's not a negative. It is 100% a positive because he's taking the correct approach to get to his best self in the long term and not just kind of go race to race to race and get good performances, but never truly realize what his potential is.
00:47:48
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, so that's ah that probably rounds out the the the main Aussie contenders I'm thinking. you I've got a few commendable mentions and maybe you have a few more, but um two that I wanted to sort of ah talk about just briefly, Dan Stein, who was seventh last year um in the hundreds, so a decent position. um And ah just recently he was first at, he lives up in, I think he lives up around sort of like Coffs Harbour area. um He was first at the Washpool World Heritage Trails 50K.
00:48:24
Speaker
The reason that sort of jumped out is quite a quite big ITRA score. So, yeah, hard to, again, equate because it it didn't have any any sort of big names that we know are running there, but he did run three hours 40 for that 50K with about 1,000 meters of vert. So a pretty speedy 50K.
00:48:43
Speaker
So, yeah, he's one to mention. And then Joe McGrath. He was third at UTA 100 in 2024 and he started this... He had a bit of a break last year, I think, maybe a few injuries and whatnot. um He was started this year with first at six-foot track. um ah So, yeah, pretty good. But I just noted that he was about 13 minutes slower than Mike Carroll's 20, 25 times. So whilst he's in the conversation, that's why I haven't i said he's he's quite on, I think, Mike Carroll's level, but he's definitely...
00:49:15
Speaker
He's definitely looked and he looks like he's building as well. So I think he's one to to keep note of. I did notice in his driver, he said in quotes, we might actually make race day and he had a stress fracture scare mid April. I don't think it doesn't look like a wait it doesn't look like he does have it. But I know that just that gave a brief interruption to training. And obviously, if there's a stress fracture scare, there's probably something that is causing him to have to adapt his training. So. yes But yeah on paper, Joe is definitely one that can go there. Ben Butler's yeah the other one. He should be doing a 50K or he shouldn't be racing. Yeah, it's it's it's we have to be like we're obviously but very ah very careful and we want to support everybody. But theoretically, Ben is running 1D cross this weekend. He's on the start list.
00:50:00
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like I just want to see this guy train and stop racing for a bit. um He has so much potential. But yeah, just give yourself the opportunity to shine as we just spoke about. Sounds like he needs a coach, James. I do feel like he needs a coach.
00:50:18
Speaker
uh so yeah that's that's i just i don't know he just ran so well in buffalo marathon after running 60k he's just got so much potential and like i'd just love to see him knuckle down focus on one specific race maybe it not be 100 i'm not sure um but yeah he's His run at s Snowys to come in third. like Exactly. That was amazing. Showed serious wheels. Like the the half marathon he did before that.
00:50:49
Speaker
Yeah. so And Josh Godding. Didn't he beat Josh Godding there as well? Yes. Who came second? Oh, no, my Mike. company Mike came second. no And he wasn't that. for He ran with Mike for a bunch of the day. Yeah. No. So it's like, this isn't a, again, this is not a negative ah on Ben. It's just Ben, lock in and train and get yourself good because you're young and you have so much potential that we want to see it because...
00:51:12
Speaker
yeah, you could be could you could be something pretty pretty special. um So I've got a list of honorable mentions. I'll quickly go through the ones that you haven't mentioned already. Shout out if I miss anything else. We've got a couple of guys from Japan. We've got Akito Nageo. He has a couple of kind of notable ones.
00:51:28
Speaker
Main one, he has a fifth here last year in the 100 mile course. So does have the familiarity on the terrain. And then we also have Ryo Murata. He has a third from Mount Fuji.
00:51:40
Speaker
100 uh 2024 but i did make a note of like that was a significant anomaly in his performances it just looked like he had he had the day he was probably capable of but the rest of the performances were not on that level the next closest thing was a ninth at mozart 100 in austria last year um we have liam thurenz who was second at cosy hundred mile last year vlad shatroff which it feels a little bit disrespectful to be putting vlad down here but He was ninth in the 100 mile at UTA last year. We just haven't seen it from Vlad in in recent years for for him to be in this podium conversation.
00:52:15
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um Gary Carlton, eighth at Tauera 100k this year and a ninth last year. And then Nick Tipling, first at Taupo 100k last year, which is like not the most competitive race over there. But ah quite often I do see a lot of the best guys in New Zealand hitting Taupo at some point. Yeah, yeah and and probably the one last one there I'd say is Jack Ferris who was fifth at Buffalo 42. He was only four minutes behind Matt Crayon. So um yeah, a decent run from Jack there.
00:52:42
Speaker
um So yeah, I think he's in the conversation. Wonderful. Alrighty, let's go to our picks. Are we going three deep or five deep? I think let's do five for this one. Maybe do three for the miler. Three for the miler. Okay. I'm just going to add add my race and my spreadsheet.
00:53:01
Speaker
All right. you I went first last time, Brodie, so you take us away. Who have you got for the women's first? doing both of them first? The women's first? Women's first. Are we assuming that Lottie's not there?
00:53:15
Speaker
yeah Okay. um So... Yeah, hard. ah Look, ah if Beth is turning it around, which it looks like she is, I think i think she'll want to win as well. think they all want to win. Yeah, I know. But i think know you know when there's different levels of people wanting to win.
00:53:34
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um I think she wants to win-win. um So I'm going to go Beth and then I'm going to go Meg Sinclair and then I'm going to go oh, I forgot about the Polish lady. I might put her in third then.
00:53:51
Speaker
And then I'm going to go Emily Mann from Canada. And then i think I'll go Julia Grant.
00:54:03
Speaker
Nice. I like it. Yeah.
00:54:08
Speaker
It's tricky. I'm going to put Katarina in first. Like we we are still talking about someone that's got a 22nd at the long trail last year. Granted, that's a technical, very technical course, very different to this, but that's a very high level athlete.
00:54:23
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Um, this is tricky this is really tricky yeah they're all very similar i reckon here they are there's a few up and comings versus the ones that have established results so where where i'm stuck is i'm stuck on beth versus meg um i i really think meg is going to make make a shout and i think that we know how good beth is but is beth still i just told you how much beth wants to win though I know, but i ah I saw Meg running and finishing at KMR and it looked like she had more in it still.
00:54:56
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And she's going back at fifth. Like I know that fifth versus. Yeah, and she was running in Solomon Aero glides. Yeah, she was not she was not in the shoe that we would recommend for technical running in the slightest. It's like a jogging shoe. It is comfy. There's the jogging shoe.
00:55:13
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Yeah, probably good 100K if you like a comfortable shoe you're not a fan of plates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a nice shoe.
00:55:23
Speaker
um so i think i'm i'm i'm gonna go meg second beth third i think that's gonna be i think it could be separated by one or two minutes though if if they have the days that i think they're both gonna have uh coming up behind them i think this is where it does get tricky for me i'm i'm probably i'm gonna go with uh yeah in fourth and then I'm going to go a little bit left field. and I'm going to put Anne Hand in fifth. Yeah, good call. I really like her trajectory. I think there will be some attrition in the field. I think there'll people that just don't have the course knowledge and push a little bit too much too early out here. It also, even if it is wet, like it gets hot and muggy down there when it is wet. So I think that you've got to have that sort of considerations. And I think that momentum is a real thing. like If you've been having the good performances and you've you've got that confidence and in...
00:56:16
Speaker
is it an or annie and and case and and yeah in in ann's case being a local knows the trails has the confidence like that's i i weigh that very high so yeah and in for an in for fifth men's field So I'm going to put Quinn in for first. I'm double guessing. I'm second guessing my call that Deng was in Mount Fuji 100 mile. I think I found on Estrada, but I forgot to link Estrada and I haven't chance to go back through because he just has spike and then no training.
00:56:53
Speaker
But assuming that I am correct there, which... I'm pretty sure I'm correct. I'm just not trusting myself right now. I'm going to go Quinn in for first. I'm going to put Dunstan in for second. um I will go.
00:57:07
Speaker
This is really tricky. this If Deng's done Mount Fuji 100 miles, does he still show up? ah ah Yes. Yes. moving Yes. Then I'm going to go Deng in for third. um my Mike Carroll in for fourth and Matt Crean in for fifth. There you
00:57:27
Speaker
I'm trying to Google if he actually did it or not so I can get you on it. Yeah. I feel like ah if i've if I've got that one wrong. I think I found him on Strava and it's not on Strava, but maybe you just saw it in the actual results.
00:57:41
Speaker
I think he won it last year. know that was second. Second. Maybe I've just copied it across. This is great podcasting, by the way. Thank you for listening. All right.
00:57:50
Speaker
I'm not going to be able to find it quick enough, I don't think. All right. You go. and all I'm going to have to go blind then. um All right. Wait. Did you include Korean in your five there? Yeah. I had Korean in fifth.
00:58:02
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I was going to say you talked a lot about him, so you better be putting him in. I'm going to go Quinn and I'm going to assume that Deng didn't run and I'm going to put him in second.
00:58:15
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And then I'm going Mike Carroll, Mikey Dunstan, and then Matt Crehan. And Mike, nice. Sorry, Adrian.
00:58:28
Speaker
Sorry. I just think those Aussie boys want it and they're going to get in a race with each other. And yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be on, it means more on home soil, I think. And I think they also just, like they know what's coming up and, and Adrian looking back at some results, like there are some hits and some misses. And and I think it's, I don't think he would, he's a very experienced runner, but there is a potential that you come in thinking that it's going to be a comfortable podium and then get surprised and and and not, not run the race the way that yeah one should. So yeah, it's a, it will be interesting.
00:58:58
Speaker
Definitely. Wonderful. All right. That's the hundred K preview Brody. That was fun. I still can't find the results for Mount Fuji a hundred miles. So I'm just going to have to back myself here. And I really hope I haven't said the wrong thing. Just ask Ding at, when you see him at the UCA, just say, did you run that or not?
00:59:13
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I haven't been able to get to the bottom of it. I've, I've got the spreadsheet and I can't even make it. Anyway. All right guys. and Thanks so much for for listening. We'll be back for the hundred mile. Yeah. Whenever listening to it.