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The First Combined Australian Mountain and Trail Champs Announced for 2027 feat. RD Lincoln Quilliam | Episode 118
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In this episode of Peak Pursuits Brodie and Jess are joined by race director Lincoln Quilliam to discuss the recent announcement of the first combined Australian Mountain and Trail Championships to be held at Kunanyi Mountain Run 2027.
Being a world championships year, this announcement is huge as any athletes vying for a spot on the Australian team for Cape Town will now converge for one big weekend in Hobart, hopefully seeing some of the most competitive fields on Aussie soil across all distances. Lincoln talks through some behind the scenes of making this happen, goes through the new championship courses, and the team talk through what this means for the sport in Australia.
Also covered is the awesome prize money announced for Transcend Ultra (real gold anyone?), the Hardrock 100 results, some Aussie results at Chongli Trail Race in China, and then bringing it home for the domestic results.
Results:
- Raffertys Coastal Run (NSW)
- Howling Dog After Dark Trail Run (SA)
- Ultra Adelaide (SA)
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Structure
00:00:07
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 118 of the Peak Pursuits podcast. My name is Brodie. I'm one of your regular hosts and I'm joined by Jess up in Canberra. How you going Jess?
00:00:18
Speaker
Hey guys. Yeah, going well. a little bit of quad doms this Monday following a big run yesterday but surviving. Yeah, if anyone didn't see Jess's reel on Instagram, head over, check it out. It sums up the long run well. It was good. I enjoyed that.
00:00:37
Speaker
um Bit of a different episode this week, just a different structure because we have a guest coming on, but they're coming on a little bit later. So we're going to start with a bit of an update for me and Jess, go through a few news stories and maybe some results, and then we will have Lincoln from...
00:00:54
Speaker
Kenyani Mountain Run jumping on to talk to us about the very exciting news of KMR being announced as the national champs for 2027. So yeah, we'll get to that and also just get a bit of background on Lincoln as well and here we've heard from him bits and pieces, but we'll we'll do a mini
Jess's Training Updates
00:01:11
Speaker
interview. So that's coming up at the back end of the episode. um But yeah, I guess maybe Jess, we might start with you. how's the um How's the training going? How's the prep coming along for OCC? Yeah, it's coming along really nicely now. um Yeah, really happy with how I'm feeling, how the body's feeling. um
00:01:32
Speaker
Seems like I have conquered this nausea issue, which is amazing. Like, ah yeah, can't even explain like how different I feel. Like just in like high intensity sessions, like um I think before, because it, yeah, like it would just sort of hold me back a bit or like, make me a bit too kind of scared to push it um because of that feeling. But I haven't even thought about my stomach um for a few weeks now, which has been amazing. um
00:02:03
Speaker
And yeah, like funnily enough, just like, Yeah, my sessions have been a lot faster at like a lower kind of effort. um And I've been running like a higher volume, but just feeling better. So it's all going well.
00:02:22
Speaker
Yeah, cool. Nice one. Well, I guess we don't know it all the time, so hopefully it doesn't bore people too much. But I'd love to hear just like, can you run us through your last week of training? Like what, what it how it was structured and what you did? Yep.
00:02:34
Speaker
So Monday was um just like an easy spin in the gym. I think I did like an hour exercise. just keeping the heart rate at like 120 and then just like a 20 minute. And that off the back of like ah you had something long last weekend? Last weekend was a long run session. So this Saturday i had done like 30k with 1400 with some tempo efforts in there. And then Sunday was like 70 minute run.
00:03:06
Speaker
So a fairly beefy weekend. So use Monday as a bit of a like a recovery shakeout time off the legs, but still get a little bit of aerobic, I guess. Yeah, I used to just have it completely off, but I've been enjoying just like jumping on the bike and just like flushing the legs out.
00:03:21
Speaker
um Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love i love that. I think it's so good having that Monday. Like I think it's great having people – I mean, pretty much exclusively give all my athletes ah at least one day off a week. And some of them have a complete rest day if they're maybe earlier athletes are getting into it. um But yeah, a lot of them who have been running for many years, like the cycling is just like, it feels like you get, you don't have any sort of leg ah doms or like any muscular recovery like issues the next day, but you, and, and metabolically feel good, but you get that little top up of aerobic. I think it's, yeah, it's really nice.
00:04:00
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. um Cool. And then Tuesday was a session. So it was five by 2K like threshold.
00:04:13
Speaker
And I just did it at lunch. I treated myself to a little lunchtime session um because i I have been doing them like early in the morning on a Tuesday and like Canberra is starting to get very cold. Like we're very much in the middle of winter and I do find it pretty hard. um Like the effort just feels a lot harder in those cold mornings. So I was like, oh, I just want to see how I feel like doing it at midday and it was just so much better. was like a great session.
00:04:43
Speaker
Yeah, I – yeah, the paces were around like – 335 to like 340. Um, and I was just cruising, like there's a really nice little road loop that I can do around work. So it's super handy. Um, lucky to be able to do that on my lunch break. Um, Yeah, I think that's that's ideal. Like if you obviously as a lot of our listeners who like cannot can't do that and have to do the morning session. But I think like if you if you can make it work and you can maybe take ah flexible hours and do like an hour, hour and a half of a lunchtime, I think like you're probably just going to get slightly better mechanical efficiency, maybe in the middle of the day where you've been up for a few more hours just moving around.
00:05:28
Speaker
It did like definitely open my eyes to like how much the cold and early mornings, like you need to sort of adjust the pace for it because I reckon like at the same effort in the mornings, I'd be running like 3.45s, which is definitely kind of slower. Yeah, definitely.
Bicarb Experimentation
00:05:47
Speaker
How did you feel in the afternoon? Because i obviously like it's pretty meaty session. like Like were you tired at work or were you able to sort of get through the rest of the workday all right? I did have a fair few coffees that morning, so I was kind of running on fumes. um Yeah. Because, yeah, then I did have a gym sesh in the Arvo, which i can do from work as well. Nice.
00:06:12
Speaker
Big day. Yeah, big day. And a full day of work. That's pretty impressive. yeah I feel like work... That's training in itself for OCC, the endurance training coach.
00:06:23
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I feel like my work is like I just sit at a desk all day. Yeah. Yeah, it's not too bad. Even then, the I think the mental load is still like I find that like even i think there's obviously some like if you have a job where you have to move around a bit, you have maybe a little bit more fatigue, but there's still something to like concentrating that fatigues you physically as well, not only mentally, like just a little bit.
00:06:45
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. um Yeah, and then Wednesday was 80 minutes just from work again but like in the morning um just around like the local trials. So I can do a loop that goes through like from work up to the top of Black Mountain back down and then through some other sort of nature reserves and link it back up. I think it was around sixteen k 400-ish meters. So i don't really chase that on those days. I just kind of do like what comes naturally because like I'm pretty fatigued off the Tuesday. um but I think it is like good practice kind of like running the hills not too hard like because you're you're already fatigued but you're just kind of like, yeah, don't know. I think that they're already probably like somewhat hard enough and you're still getting the –
00:07:42
Speaker
still getting the sort of muscular benefit because you're running on slightly fatigued legs. Like if you feel your legs are burning a little bit, then that's hard enough and you don't have to put yourself in a hole.
00:07:53
Speaker
o Yeah. This is the benefit of living in Canberra, Jess. It's cold in the mornings, but you can run on trails from work. That looks like a really nice run.
00:08:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's actually really fun. um Get to see a lot of different parts of Canberra. um Yeah, and the Arvo actually did a little 30-minute jog um as well just because, ah I don't know, I've been enjoying getting out twice sometimes, like when I've been sitting all day at work. um i just feel better if i like move my legs a bit and i just take that i need to exercise the dogs anyway um so i just take them both on like a double lead thing and try not to trip over
00:08:36
Speaker
yes do they ever try and catch you up with like stopping to look at something or are you they pretty well able to run along with you Yeah, honey is still pretty young. She's only just turned one, she's a lot less focused. And then Roxy gets annoyed as well, so they try to like run ah as far apart from each other as possible. so then yeah Yeah, it's ah it's a bit of a balancing act, but we'll get through it.
00:09:06
Speaker
Nice. Cool. And then Thursday day was just... a chill hour um flat from home because I worked from home um and I just do like a little loop around Lake Gin and Deera.
00:09:22
Speaker
um And then Friday was trail-specific session. So I went to mount Ainsley um and I did a 10-minute tempo exercise on the base loop which is pretty flat um maybe like a tiny bit undulating um and that was like 3 and then i did some heel reps after that um so i did a couple of three minute ones
00:09:54
Speaker
um And then just 10 by 30 seconds. It wasn't a super huge session um just because like I had a long run plan, like a bigger long run planned on the weekend. So I didn't want to like go through too much fatigue, but like still get like a bit of work in.
00:10:09
Speaker
Um, no, it looks good. And I think like that sort of like tempo where you're still getting some like high aerobic work, but not, it's not too stressful. And then like the heels with that sort
Brodie's Rehabilitation Progress
00:10:20
Speaker
of like more sort of anaerobic or like muscular stimulus, you're sort of like getting bang for your buck there without sort of cooking yourself.
00:10:28
Speaker
Yeah, and, like, my session on Tuesday was pretty big as well. So, like, I didn't need to do huge volume that day. Like, I'd already sort of done that in the week. Cool. And then gym that arvo And then Saturday was ah just an easy 45 in the morning.
00:10:51
Speaker
um And then I jumped on the bike in the Arvo for just, like, a real easy so hour. spin um And then Sunday was three hours and I drove out to Mount Tennant, which is kind of like the closest of the bigger mountains. I did want to head out to um a place called Stockyard, which is a bigger mountain. I think it's the biggest peak in ACT. um But the weather was a bit wild and there was like 10 centimeters of snow overnight. So I was like, oh, I don't really want to go out there by myself in case. I get hypothermia or something. Sounds safe. Yeah.
00:11:33
Speaker
So Mount Tennant's a bit ah lower. So you just went out to there. um There was a little bit of snow at the top, which is cool. I mean, locals probably wouldn't even call it snow, but for me it's still pretty um Yeah.
00:11:50
Speaker
And, yeah, so covered like water.
00:11:55
Speaker
1600 meters in three hours. um Or I actually trialed bike up for the first time, which I've always been like super skeptical about.
00:12:06
Speaker
um Because i have like working at AIS, I have like asked sports scientists about it um And they've always just been like, nah, like it doesn't, it's not proven to work for like long distance events. Like I don't think it would do anything. And then obviously with my stomach, like I wasn't going to risk trying that. um But since my stomach's been good, i was like, oh, whatever, I'll just give it a go.
00:12:33
Speaker
And holy shit, I reckon it actually works. Interesting, yeah. i've done Yeah, I've done that mountain tenant run a few times now because – I did it in the lead up to like Asia Pacific Champs and like I would have done it a few times last year. um And the first climb, it's like 6K, pretty techie with like stairs and stuff. It's not really my jam. Like I'm, yeah, I don't know. I find it pretty hard. Like I find that sort of climbing way harder than
00:13:04
Speaker
just like running up a steep fire road um but with the bike up like my legs just had heaps more in them and I ran i did that climb like three minutes faster than i ever have done it before and then interesting and then like so just kept going like I didn't feel like I was I obviously didn't want to like push that climb too hard because I still had um like 24 k's to run after that so Yeah, and the legs like had heaps left in them after. Like I'd run all the way back down the other side, which is like the fire road side, and then back up um feeling really good. So, yeah, I reckon it's definitely something that I'm going to implement for OCC. Yeah.
00:13:52
Speaker
Nice one. It's it seems like like with with a lot of this stuff in the more I sort of like I'm a very science based person, especially because like physiotherapy is a discipline is very evidence based. But in in sports physiology stuff, it seems to be that like the science takes a little while to catch up to the anecdotal evidence. And like, there seems to be a lot of people, there's at least a lot of people using bike hub that are having great performances over long distances. Like I think it's undeniable that it's very good on the short races. um yeah But in my mind, the particularly like uphills,
00:14:28
Speaker
Like when you're thinking about an uphill, there's like you get compared to like flat running, you're getting an overload of specific muscles that are under demand that are having to produce high force.
00:14:39
Speaker
And therefore, like there might be a local level of that sort of lactate buildup that is like you wouldn't expect at that in heart rate intensity but it's happening on a localized level um that's sort of my thinking of why it might work i don't know if that's a scientist might have to tell me if that mechanism doesn't make sense but to me that's like i think it'd like be perfect for like a vk uh or even like especially like this where a race starts with an uphill like yeah you're not flooding yourself with lactate um in that in that first sort of half an hour of a race
00:15:10
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I reckon where they're coming from is like I don't think it would work in like a road marathon because you're not really like your legs shouldn't be building lactate until like the end of the race.
00:15:25
Speaker
um Whereas in trail, like I feel like you could be like getting building lactate at the very start of the race because you're starting with a climb. i think i think we all know that like in a 50k race, we've had a burn in our legs at some point.
00:15:37
Speaker
Definitely, yeah. That more lactate burn rather than like just like maybe running forty k on the road where you start of just sort of your body starting to break down more so. But like that that more burn symptom I think you can is is pretty common.
00:15:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm a huge fan and no stomach issues. So, um, yeah. and i use Well, that's the, that's the main thing. It's like, if it doesn't hurt, then, then you might as well try it, I think. Cause if anything, it's a sodium load and a, and a carb load. Um, so like you'd be getting some benefit from the carb that is the sort of the, the, substrate that you take the bicarb with, you're just getting some bonus carbs and then, I know. There's something to the sodium, I think, as well, that you maybe don't have to.
00:16:22
Speaker
and i don't know. I don't think we know if you need to then have the normal electrolytes you have or if you should have less. like I think that's a bit that consensus on that's unknown. But did you do the same fueling that you would normally do?
00:16:34
Speaker
Yeah, I was actually probably a bit more thirsty than I usually would be at those temps. So I reckon next time I'd probably carry a bit more plain water. um I've sort of thought in my mind that it would help me because I haven't used it heats but I've used it a little bit, that it would help me consume. I struggle to sort of remember and to force myself to drink water. a lot of the time I guess my races have been more like two, three hours over the last few years.
00:17:00
Speaker
um And I feel like it it it sort of forces you to have a bit more water, which is probably a good thing. Yeah, definitely. was it How did you go with the taste? Because that's the other thing I usually ask people. How did you go consuming the bicarb? Was it was a struggle or is it all right?
00:17:15
Speaker
It like, cause I used to eat a lot of like cake batter as a kid and I was just like, it reminds me of like bicarb kind of taste. Yeah. okay is it um But is it really salt? I haven't had the, I think you use the bicarb plus.
00:17:28
Speaker
Yes. and I haven't tried that one. Is it, is it really salty or is it, is it, i didn' what did it taste like? I didn't find it salty, but like I do love salt. Interesting. I have a very high tolerance for salt. um it Yeah, it didn't taste salty to me. It just tasted like bicarb powder.
00:17:50
Speaker
um Interesting. Kind of in like a yogurt consistency. Well, you might be well designed for it because ever since I first had bicarb, every time now I have bicarb, I know what it tastes like and my body immediately is like, nope, I don't want this, I don't want this, I don't want this, but I'm like forcing it down and I just try and like spoon it past my taste buds.
00:18:09
Speaker
Yeah, maybe my body's like, oh, it's cake batter. Like, this is good. Well, you're in luck because i actually that's the worst part about that's the only downside to me to buy carbon if you don't have side effects is trying to actually consume it because I find it disgusting. But um maybe the buy car products, the plus one's a bit better. I'll have to try it when I'm on the way back.
00:18:29
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. I think we're going to get Billy O'Mealy's part of that brand. I think he sort of co-owns and I think we're going to grab him on to talk about his running at some point in the middle the year. So we'll we'll have to um hit him up with some bike hub questions as well.
00:18:45
Speaker
Yeah, because um I had to some people message about like whether like how I find the recovery using bicarbonate. Obviously, that was my first time. um So i wasn't sure. I did feel like ah like I still had DOMS today, but like i don't feel completely shattered. But do you know like where comes from? I haven't heard anything from that point of view. I would have thought it's just performance. It just allows you to push performance.
00:19:10
Speaker
harder so theoretically you might end up sore I'm not sure like if you did it in a race situation like it allows you to create more force for longer so you might even theoretically be like you're not worried because it's after your race but um yeah because people use it in training but yeah I don't from my point of view like just on the mechanisms I I don't know but and I haven't specifically heard anything from the recovery point of view but um and maybe from a metabolic point of view it's like you produce less lactate during that run and therefore it was a bit better o oh we've just got Lincoln joining us hey Lincoln hey how's it going yeah good thank you you've just caught us at the end of um Jess's training week we've been um going through it which has been fun so Yeah, good to good to have you on and you're here in time for the the big news reveal. So that's great. Awesome. We'll we'll come back to you in ah one moment. Just give a quick update of me while I'm here and then um we'll talk to the the more interesting person.
00:20:17
Speaker
Yeah, we all want to hear how your rehab's going. Yeah, it's actually going pretty good. I'm pretty like I i guess it's been two weeks since I've been on last um and I think I just come out of the boot when I was on last time.
00:20:30
Speaker
um And like on a day-to-day, I'm like, oh I'm not even getting better. But if I just like look back a week or two weeks, I can sort of see how quickly things are actually changing. So um I'm back walking. Yeah.
00:20:43
Speaker
Pretty normally, I would say, I'm wearing sort of like a shoe and have a heel raise in the shoe, so that sort of helps. But even walking around barefoot at home a little bit because I'm trying not to walk too much barefoot, um it feels pretty good and I can sort of not limp, whereas a couple of weeks ago would have been like limping at home because it doesn't. I couldn't quite sort of walk without a heel raise. um So, yeah, I feel like that's going really well. I can nearly do a single leg calf raise, which is very exciting. um I'm getting getting there, which feels hilarious because I was doing like so much calf work that my calves were actually pretty strong.
00:21:21
Speaker
um And you can sort of tell that because my left calf is like, it's still like half the size. It's so skinny. um but So you have to do more calf raises on that side?
00:21:34
Speaker
In theory, I'm doing like different stuff because I'm still doing my – that could be part of the reason why my right calf is – I feel like it may have even changed in size and got a little bit bigger um because I've been sort of going after my Achilles rehab on the right side to try and sort of get that into like a really good place so that when I come back – it's not giving me issues as well as trying to sort of think about my left.
00:22:01
Speaker
um So, yeah, I've been sort of doing my normal rehab on that and actually like really pushing the weight and really pushing like the range that I'm going through. So that's been pretty good. um But, yeah, I'm doing sort of different exercises because they're very different strengths, um which means my gym session takes extra long because I do like double the amount of calf because I do like two different types of exercises.
00:22:25
Speaker
but Yeah. Exercises. um Yeah. But it's been good. I'm going to the gym like three times a week. My strength stuff is trying to get is starting to get back towards my normal um like lifting amounts, it still like feels like not quite right because my range in my ankle isn't perfect. So I'm just trying not to push it. um I don't want to sort of like injure something else. So I'm just sort of doing stuff within tolerance, but I'm definitely can feel the strength
00:22:57
Speaker
That's pretty close and um I don't think I lost much of that in sort of quads and hips, which is good. um I think it's more just I can't do the movement that well, um but it's sort of coming back.
00:23:08
Speaker
um And I've been riding to and from work. um So I ended up riding like five out of seven days last week and I probably rode like, I don't know, what did I actually ride? Let's have a look.
00:23:21
Speaker
I've been back on Strava. Yeah. Very impressively. I rode nearly 100 Ks last week. So like I'm back doing a bit. That's not really heaps of cycling, but like um the even the cycling's feeling normal.
00:23:39
Speaker
Like from nothing that's like. Exactly. Yeah. So I've sort of had to hold myself back and think like, yeah, it doesn't feel like on the weekend on Saturday, i was like, oh, cool. I'll go out for a ride. And then i was like actually a road all week. I should probably have a day off riding. And I had to go to the pool, which I didn't enjoy. But um do sorry.
00:23:57
Speaker
Did you do swimming or pool running? I did swimming. I've sort of thought about pool running, but um I don't know. I can never find that I can get pool running working hard enough. And I don't like i feel like you have to sort of go at it to do it hard, and I don't want to like...
00:24:10
Speaker
sort of do anything a bit too strange until I feel sort of normal on the left and right. um I might start trying to bring it in gently, but it's also cold. so And I go to an outdoor pool because I hate swimming indoors. It's like too humid for me. um And I feel like outdoor pool hit pool running would be not as fun because your like body's like half out of the water, um yeah maybe a third out of the water. But yeah, I might try that.
00:24:37
Speaker
If you don't enjoy it, then i wouldn't bother. Like I reckon you'll get enough from the bike and swimming. Yeah. And like swimming is going. I hate swimming, um but it's like I feel i definitely feel my heart rate getting up um and it feels challenging. So I feel like I'm getting some cardiovascular benefit from that.
00:24:56
Speaker
And like when I go to the pool as well as a good opportunity to do some calf raises on the steps, like I sort of come out a certain depth and i'm sort of at my knee now um doing a calf raise, a single leg calf raise on my left. And I can do like eight normal sort of strength reps, like eight reps there. um So it's a good opportunity to do that in water because it sort of takes some of the body weight off.
00:25:18
Speaker
um And I feel like it's helping me get back to being able to do a calf raise. Yeah, nice. Yeah, it's definitely coming around. I've been pretty busy because I've been working lots, um trying to get heaps of work in before the baby comes. um So, yeah, I've been busy as well. So I feel like it's I'm probably like I'm sort of at my limit anyway in terms of time um because I'm trying to sort of help out at home when I get home as well. So it's, yeah. Can you walk around now without a boot?
00:25:49
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. so I'm doing my normal and I'm sort of trying not to overdo it with the walking. Like I'm not purposely going out and doing walking, but I'm doing like my job's pretty active on my feet. So i do like 8000 steps, roughly eight to ten a day. um so The walking's feeling pretty normal. um So, yeah, next step, I guess, is from here is to sort of build towards being able to to run and being able to jog, I guess, to start some some jogging, which ah I feel like is probably somewhere between four and six weeks away. But I guess we'll see.
00:26:24
Speaker
um I really need to be able to do say, 15 single leg heel raises and have the strength a bit closer to to the right one before I start trying to jog.
00:26:36
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. But it definitely feels like it's coming around. Yeah. You're in the right path to get there. Like it it definitely sounds more and more positive each week. So you'll be running in no time.
00:26:50
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. and and And this week or last week when we had the big news, I was like, oh, great. Oh, um I want to do the long trail. That's sort of like where I'm headed. um i'd I'd really like to have a crack at it. But Lincoln decided to make the course incredibly hard and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to run the distance by next March.
00:27:08
Speaker
I was thinking it would be the 67 if it was at KMR, but ah rightly so probably. Lincoln's increased the distance to 84, so we'll get him to chat a little bit about that. but um A quick break in the show to thank Bix. Bix has just come out with their 30-gram gel in two brand new flavors. This is a new gel, new flavors. You've got the choice of the salted strawberry or the berry. The salted strawberry is also packing 300 milligrams of sodium. That's an increase. whereas the berry has 200 milligrams. Both make them perfect for the conditions we have in Australia, yeah whereas most gels on the market do not have sodium within them. What Bix has done here is take the recipe for the gels that work so well, that 1.8 ratio that is very, very friendly on the stomach and added a soft, subtle, but very tasty twist that you can dial in your race day and your training nutrition to that extra fine detail.
00:27:59
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Introduction to Guest Lincoln
00:28:16
Speaker
That's a nice segue into introducing our guest, Lincoln. um Thanks for joining us. Lincoln, always forget your last name, McQuilliam, is that it?
00:28:27
Speaker
Quilliam. Quilliam. I don't know why I added a meek. Sorry. ah Scottish there somewhere. Yeah, just add the meeks. All good. i short I've shortened your name to like the basic possible of Link and I don't know you as anything else. So um it's good to good to remember your last name. um Lincoln is a race director, ah a trail runner, ah a dad. What else? How else would you describe yourself in ah in a few words, Lincoln? ah Froth on the adventure and I'm actually a civil engineer.
00:28:59
Speaker
So, yeah, very much from an adventure background, not at all from a sport background. Perfect. All right. Well, on that, Lena, things, it'd be good to like before we get into chatting about the national champs and KMR, it'd be great to sort of get a little bit of a background of you and your journey into trail running and then race directing and that sort of stuff. So can you give us a bit of a rundown of how you stumbled across this great sport of ours?
00:29:26
Speaker
Yeah, cool. um because And, yeah, the foundation story of of any event and any person is, like, so important. So thank you for for asking. I'll try and keep it the succinct version. um So, yeah, grew up, like, Tassie born and bred, grew up bushwalking, whitewater rafting, you know, off track, and then discovered snowboarding when I was 14. And then that led to um the next sort of 10, 15 years.
00:29:53
Speaker
of ah working across the world and um and just, you know, selecting jobs that I could then spend as much time out on the snow, out in the backcountry as possible.
00:30:06
Speaker
I was just living in Sweden and kind of got invited to climb Mont Blanc and so did. And then it was like, hey, that's pretty cool. And chased the alpine climbing for a few years and climbed with the New Zealand alpine team and new routes in NZ, ice and mix and expedition to Peru and that.
00:30:25
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Landed myself in Papua New Guinea, snow. nicene No, not much climbing no people to climb with. accidentally fell into trail running when I accidentally ran the Kokoda track, which is and 6,000 meters vert.
00:30:44
Speaker
So an acqui are but yeah we only we only ran the the last sort of two thirds and was it was beautiful, you know, ultra trail running of ah jog the flats, bomb the downs, hike the hills. um And so what happened was – We got a third of the way through in two-thirds of the time that we wanted to, and one of our party was having a hard time, so he had to turn around with one of the guides, and and me and Tom Brazier, actually, um a Las Pativas athlete at the time, kept going, and we're like, man, we've got to speed up. We're going to get there in under 30 hours.
00:31:22
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And so that was the jog, the flats, bomb the downs, blah, blah, blah. And we got to the end, and he's like, hey, that's trail running. And i was like, what? oh, okay, cool, light bulb moment. And it's like, oh, so all these, you know, multi-day bushwalks in Tassie that I've been wanting to um do but, you know, never have time and mates to do it with, I can now go run those in a day.
00:31:47
Speaker
Oh, epic. So that was 2017. And then I was doing some fly-in, fly-out work back home to Tassie as as a part of a way to actually start to get – spread the roots back into Tassie again and were like, oh, what am we going to do like long-term?
Lincoln's Event Organizing Journey
00:32:07
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Do or I really want to work for other people or whatever? Anyway, ah UTA 2018 saw the um the film that Patagonia um ah produced called Tarkina about the Tarkine rainforest and the tagline, what if what if running could save a rainforest? Yeah.
00:32:28
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And it's like, oh, well, ah how about someone takes the next step and create an event around it to actually connect people with that landscape in ah in that form of running.
00:32:42
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And it's like, hey, that sounds like something fun to do. So within 10 months of that moment, ah in partnership with the Bob Brown Foundation and um Patagonia, we'd the put on the first Tarkina Ultra and that was how I got into trail running.
00:33:00
Speaker
event organizing and event organizing I didn't know that you were behind that so that's that's that's really cool um before that before that point were you working as a civil engineer for like most of your life there that fly in fly out when you're in Papua New Guinea and those sorts of things is that what you were doing Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so civil engine consulting, so, um you know, design management, construction management, any sort of management around, yeah, scoping, designing, delivering civil infrastructure in a whole variety of areas. industries. But yeah, that whole professional experience with it's you know putting on events, it's another project.
00:33:47
Speaker
So understanding your stakeholders, governance, risk management, budgeting, scheduling, all that stuff, ah it all comes into play. So it was quite a natural fit with the adventure background and understanding of the mountains and and risk there combined with that professional experience to just sort of fall into organising trail running events. So, yeah, two years of Tarkaina Ultra and then um as soon as I delivered the first Tarkaina, a couple of people were like, hey, so, you know, there's this epic mountain at home and I was like, yeah, yeah, i know, how about it? Like looking at it from growing up in its foothills to then looking at it um from a trail runner's eyes, it's like, wow, we're so lucky.
00:34:28
Speaker
um And yeah, and then ah so took on getting Kayamara, which three or four event organisers had had a crack at over the past sort of 10, 15 years before that, apparently. And there was quite a few obstacles, but I had a bit of time and um life decided that's what I should do. So here we are after delivering the fifth year of Kayamara in March this year and um looking forward to a pretty amazing sixth year next year.
00:34:59
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. When you went after, when you went into the race directing and you did the Tarkine, the race up there or the event up there, did you, were you still working or did you go all in into the race directing or like what was the balance there?
00:35:15
Speaker
Oh, no, no, working, working, working. So, yeah, no, only finally have, ah well, been on leave without pay for last or since November last year. So otherwise it's always been a side job for,
00:35:32
Speaker
you know, not even paying wages. So, you know, it's only been very recently with Diverge coming on that it's like, okay, and we've got a series of four smaller scale events, the Kanani Trail Series on the mountain in Hobart as well, that, you know, finally yeah that all allows – Or added up. a bit Yeah, added up enough to actually start doing it a bit bit more seriously. Yeah.
00:35:58
Speaker
Or sustainably, I should say, because we've got two young yeah two and four. So, you know, working most nights and or weekends is just not really sustainable long term. Yeah, it's great it's great to see that sort of transition. Obviously, that passion, the experience you had from the civil engineering and also just your adventure background and being able to eventually translate that into sort of making it into a full-time gig for you. is Yeah, it's very cool to see. Yeah.
00:36:25
Speaker
Lincoln, I first met, I don't know if it was when I first met you, but one of the times when I sort of got to know you a lot better was when in 2022, when you were overseas, visiting a lot of different ah trail running races under a scholarship, I believe, of of some kind. um Can you tell us a little bit about that?
00:36:45
Speaker
Yeah, so I was lucky enough to secure a Churchill Fellowship. So they are a sponsored travel internationally for somewhere between six and ten weeks kind of thing um to ah explore a or a project that – you've done all the study you can kind of thing in in Australia and need to travel overseas to then understand, like, world's best practice and whatever and bring those learnings back home for community benefit in Australia. So my project was to explore the key features and benefits of aspirational trail running destinations. So, yeah um you know, I i just – the –
00:37:28
Speaker
world's most prestigious events, you know, UTMB, Hard Rock, and and then I love Skyrunning, so Glencoe Skyline, Trompso, Skyrace, and then just happened to be that I had, oh, and Sierras and Isle,
00:37:43
Speaker
ah and some local races as well, and then, um you know, spent some time in Washington State. And ah it just so worked that I was over there for the World Sky Running Champs, and that's where we were spending some time in Italy. So I came over and and and helped the team there, and you know, support crew. They're always welcome. And, yeah, seeing some of the team have an epic or all the team having an epic time over there.
00:38:14
Speaker
Yeah, I remember I saw you at three different places that year because I was at CES and now and then the Skyrunning Champs and then up in Scotland. And at the time, I was like, man, this guy's like, what's this guy doing? This is weird fellowship. like It seems strange that someone's paying him to like go around the world and just sort of be at these events. But like looking back on it now, I'm like, well, those – I don't think I realize the sort of scope of – and obviously, you went to some other events as well. But even just those three events, like the – the takeaways that you could get from seeing those events up close um and then apply to your event directing in Australia. um Like it's so so obvious like Ciesa now so iconic such a massive race so much history um but it also has like ah a great storyline to it which I feel like is a big part of of KMR and the stories there and then Skyrunning Champs, like a World Championships, a bit of a different vibe and then that intense race up in Scotland, which um I was happy to see recently is now Skyline Scotland got bought out by UTMB. So it was sort of gone under, but now it looks like it's still going to happen in some shape or form, which is which is cool to see. It's still happening up in that neck of the woods. But what would the what were the big things that you took away from that from that year that maybe you've taken into KMR and your other event directing? Good question. And I'm still actually even, what are we, four years later, still processing some of it. um My report is finally written and published, so that's available online for anyone who wants to try and read 50 pages of writing.
00:39:47
Speaker
um Oh, there's a few photos in there too. But... um it was It was quite a shock where, you know, you I found that I had expectations that, oh, wow, you know, all these other really prestigious events will have everything sorted. Surely they won't have any of the challenges that we have. and It was so far from the case, you know, and so what it what it did sort of reveal is that we are really leading the world in a couple of um cases so or aspects and everyone has stakeholder and land manager challenges challenges
00:40:27
Speaker
um and and constraints, and ah but some of the, yeah, the biggest things to take away really on the sky running um side of things is risk and safety, um which comes through more in diverged sky runs than it does in KMR, but also event hub and the experience around the event. Like you can, oh, and just how, you know, if you're going to do,
00:40:56
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an event mate Make the course absolutely the best possible thing you can. But i actually already had that um pretty ingrained in me before actually doing that travel.
00:41:09
Speaker
um Because, yeah, you know, like you you want to blow the socks off people. You don't want to just do, oh, yeah, look, you know, we could – We could go up that mountain and over the back, but then we're going to have to do – like, logistics will be tricky. It's yet another aid station, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but if that's the most epic experience, then that's the approach we've taken. And, yeah, it's harder. and But that's, you know – The landscape just deserves to be embraced in the most epic way possible on its terms sort of thing. So drawing the most beautiful lines that really capture all the ah most epic views, the variety of landscapes make it bloody hard, of course, but also still diverse and get some running in there occasionally and all that sort of stuff. Yeah.
00:42:04
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like there's two things. i've Obviously, it wasn't that diverged, but just like watching it from afar but and having experienced KMR, the two things I see is like big standouts to me or things that I really like about the events is that that you're not afraid to sort of go after the best possible course um and and make it happen in in whatever way that is. Like both of those courses, you've nearly got to have your way to make it hard for yourself. Yeah. to make that the participant experience the best it can be. And I don't know, I feel like some of your adventuring background comes from that, just like hearing you talk about the lines and that sort of thing. Like that's a that's very climbing thing to be like, I want to conquer that specific route and that because of these key beautiful points to it. um And I think that's it's a really cool,
00:42:51
Speaker
aspect of trail running that that your events bring to it and then the other part for me is the stories and I think like obviously you probably got a bit of that from your overseas but as part of why KMR is so special and and this and the importance of the mountain to the to the region um I think is yeah it's very cool um to see that and see it all come together with the event hub is yeah it's a very special event down there Yeah, thanks. Actually, on the on the story and the connection, that the whole – so I grew up, you know, in the foothills of the mountain but and adventuring, you know, throughout, ah but didn't really learn too much about its culture or the stories um that it that it holds. And so, you know, trail runners generally like to know a bit about the place they they run, you know. It's a very connective thing with the with the landscape. Yeah.
00:43:43
Speaker
And ah it's like, right, well, we've got a platform, we've got an audience, um let's do what we can to share mountain culture and leading with um the yeah the Aboriginal um story and and culture. So we aim to provide an open and supportive platform for Palawa and Tasmanian Aboriginal community to share culture and story on on their terms. And that was actually one of the things that we do stand out a bit stronger than anywhere else that I've visited.
00:44:12
Speaker
um Yes, that sometimes that's an uncomfortable question in in in a lot of other places. and And there's generally extremely little in terms of that First Nations um ah presentation or or respect or or acknowledgement that I've seen in in in other events internationally.
00:44:34
Speaker
But yeah, it's... yeah I think it's very strong for someone like i like you said, the stories that you didn't grow up hearing about. And I think for me, even like I know curriculums have maybe changed since then, but um like just having very little understanding of... First Nations people and First Nations culture and that sort of stuff. So I'm ah a big advocate of of events or not just in event space but just in ah on in all of life where I can sort of find out more about those those things. because and And like you said, I think there's that
00:45:09
Speaker
Like it's it in respecting the first name First Nations people, we can also understand our own connection to the land. And I think a lot of trail runners ah feel strongly connected to the land because it's something we love doing and going out there and being amongst nature. um So I think it's particularly powerful ah for trail runners or people who like being out there in nature because that is such ah a key aspect of First Nations culture. So, yeah, it's very – I like – feels very strong. I wouldn't say I'm a very spiritual person, but at KMI, definitely you can feel the energy. Trail running is just good for the soul, full stop. And, yeah, the health and well-being benefits that we just see time and again, particularly through run club stuff, but also using, you know –
00:45:58
Speaker
bigger annual events as the celebration of yeah the the training around the year and um and the community around it. it's It's phenomenal. Yeah, cool. Yeah, this this ah this new 80K or actually it's 84K. Yes. Yes. Very, very excited.
00:46:16
Speaker
Awesome. All right, we're going to that get that into a second, but I wanted to, um one last question, or it sort of leads us into that, but I i know that i've I've had small conversations with you in the past of talking about the the potential for one race to sort of hold ah these championship races together as as potentially even on an international stage in the future. um And I know this is something that you've you've been keen on for a few years, so... ah I don't really need to ask the question what made you like what made you keen because I think you've been you've been there for a long time but I guess like what is the what's the main motivation for that passion for putting together an event that can bring ah those sort of elite aspects together whilst you also have that strong other side to the event but what's the the the motivation behind sort of bringing those all the elite competitors for the different disciplines to the same to same event what made you want to host Australian champs
00:47:11
Speaker
Well, I reckon it was our conversations in 2022, actually, Brodie, that really sort of sowed the seed and conversations with other um elite runners in Australia over the years since that, you know, um Yes, KMR really wants to um be there for all the rec recreation runners and you know our fundamental objective is connect more people with trails and the rest of the bennetts benefits follow.
00:47:42
Speaker
we know that, of course, people um are inspired by amazing people doing amazing things and hence you know, we we need to um elevate the profile of the sport and the amazing, um you know, high performers and elites that we have in Australia to do so. And, and you know, quite a ah few of you are, you know, we we're good mates and it's like, well, what can we do to support is always, um you know, part of the conversation. and
00:48:13
Speaker
And I was hearing reasonably consistently, man well, where's an event in Australia that can actually put on a full world's class festival?
00:48:25
Speaker
And it's like, well... We can. Let's do it. And so then, you know, it's um ah been an ongoing conversation for the last couple of years with um Athletics Australia and Australia Ultra and Trail Runners Association around, hey, well, you know, do we want to do this?
00:48:46
Speaker
you know, from what I'm hearing, that you know, the runners want to see a a combined um festival of all of the mountain and trail running champs events just like at Welds because, well, hey, that's, that's you know, that's what the team is, is the environment that that the team's competing in and um hence here we are and so we've... um ah Yes, Autra has, um you could say, more relaxed um ah ah
00:49:18
Speaker
bracket of distance for the short and the long trail. um But we really wanted to produce, you know, what the world's has. So getting, going from the 66 up to, know, between and to really,
00:49:34
Speaker
you know replicate what worlds is going to be yeah awesome i'll just um because i guess we have actually said that said the thing the whole the whole episode i don't think i think we sort of talked about it briefly i'll just read a little bit of the the press release so We're obviously talking to Lincoln who runs KMR um but there was recently a tender for to host the Australian Mountain and Trail Running Championships which means all four disciplines. So uphill, running, up and down, then the short trail and the long trail.
Kenyani Mountain Run's National Championship
00:50:08
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um And yeah, this is just a little bit from the press release on Ortra's website.
00:50:13
Speaker
The world-class trails of Kenyany Mount Wellington will play centre stage for one of the country's fastest growing sports after the Kenyany Mountain Run was awarded hosting rights for the first ever combined Australian mountain and trail running championships.
00:50:26
Speaker
KMR was awarded the national champs after a competitive bid process overseen by ORTRA and AA. ORTRA President John Claridge said that KMR offered everything we were looking for, world-class trails, proven event management and a passionate community. It provides the perfect stage for Australia's first combined national champs.
00:50:43
Speaker
And then I'll just jump down here because there's a nice quote from Jess Collins, who is a Tasmanian trail runner. So Tasmanian runner Jess Collins, who is representing Australia, said it was exciting news for KMR, Tasmania and the sport.
00:50:55
Speaker
This is such a great opportunity for Australian athletes. I run many of the KMR events and know the courses and terrain are on par with what we see at the World Champs. So yeah, that's just a part of it. You can head over to the website to read a little bit more, but it is very exciting news. First combined championship where hopefully we can assemble the country's best athletes to all come to Hobart and run on Kenyany in their chosen discipline. And as it's sort of alluded to in that, given that 2027 is a world champs year, Selection criteria hasn't been announced yet, but those events will likely feature quite strongly either as just a really good race to go to or potentially having some sort of automatic spots. So big news in the elite side of trail running, but also I guess like what you were saying there, Lincoln, seeing that racing where you have, and this is something that I've been sort of thinking about is obviously I'm maybe more focused on the elite side, but I think having...
00:51:58
Speaker
competition having 10 20 runners all racing together to me makes it really exciting and there's a lot of stories that can come from that um so yeah it sort of adds the top the top positions might be running similar times but the depth and the competitive racing will will probably be a bit deeper and um ah i think that'll be really exciting for anyone who's at the event um to watch and then also have their own experience running so i'm pretty excited same Jess, any thoughts um on when you saw soda saw the announcement and can you give say can you give us a hot hot take? Will you be coming to KMR in 20? Oh, definitely. No, don't have to say
00:52:38
Speaker
No, I have wanted to come down to KMR since I've been into trail running. it's just It's a tricky um time of year because you guys always clash with Buffalo. Yeah.
00:52:51
Speaker
But, like, I definitely don't have an excuse not to go, like, I definitely want to be there for this. I think um a lot of people are going to have the same mindset. Like, I think um it's a shame Buffalo's on the same weekend because i'm I'm not sure if they will get the same mindset.
00:53:07
Speaker
um numbers as they usually do um with this clash again. um and no, I'm excited though. I think it's really cool that we have this in Australia. I think it's going to be awesome for the sport and also like for like it'll just build so much hype for Worlds next year. um Yeah, it's really cool. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, and hopefully like watching the athletes can sort of inspire more people to sort of maybe everyone doesn't have to aspire to be ah an elite athlete, but having those role models to look at and hopefully from a junior point of view, there will be the junior race as well, which is really cool. But hopefully just builds that whole sort of side of the sport a little bit more um to see some sort of development process and even maybe some some some more fandom and not and Not that that's like absolute necessary for the elite athletes to pump them up, but I think it just, the vibe is the vibe that it brings is is really exciting. um And I guess that's, yeah, I'm biased because that's obviously what we're trying to bring with this podcast as well. This is our sort of mission um and this aligns very well with our mission. Yeah.
00:54:14
Speaker
yeah it's it's it's very cool news cool to hear that jess will be down there i'm hoping that uh i will well i'm i'm gonna be there what i do as i was sort of alluding to before will be the question of how much running i can do between now and then but at the very least i'll be running up the vk um and uh hopefully i'll get to to tackle the new monster lincoln i thought the 67 was hard enough but you've decided to make it harder tell us a little bit about the new the new course Yeah, so, I mean, the course design objectives have been really um strong on from the outset for KMR and that's it's really all about a mountain adventure. We've got a 1,200-metre mountain rising out of the sea on the doorstep of the city.
00:55:05
Speaker
And, um you know, just go the leg one goes straight up and then, you know, for the 66, it's, you know, then up and down. Each leg has either sizable climb or descent or both um in a real journey, a circumnavigation of of the mountain. And so, you know,
00:55:26
Speaker
increasing the distance. I was really conscious. I didn't want to just go, oh, yeah, well, hey, we can just go out there and that adds on the distance and makes it easy for ourselves. no um It was really how do we still maintain this epic mountain journey feel of the course. um And so, yeah, the the course isn't yet announced. The map's the not yet released, but I can definitely say or give some pretty pretty big hints. um So leg one is the same.
00:55:59
Speaker
Climb the mountain and then descend the entire mountain. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think you have probably have some internet sleuths who have figured out where it is because James, I think, had already figured out where the course was. And when when we sort of when someone got the sort of draft from you, it was exactly the same. So James had figured it out. But he's a smart man. But um yeah, that downhill, I'm not sure about going straight up the mountain to go straight back down again. Yeah. Well, it's ah it's a different way and it's it's very much a journey of, you know, hey, so we were up there, now we're heading way over there. um Yes, it is a full descent of the mountain and then ah and then ascend by a different way, um a real nice steep way to then connect in with Mount Connection and and and the rest of leg two. And then it is the same leg three, four and five, but you'll have an extra... you know, 15, hang on, 20k-ish.
00:56:57
Speaker
And ah hang on, it's 4,800 metres. So that's ah another 1,100 metres. It was like 17k roughly with an additional, an extra 17k with an additional 1,200 or so up and down because it's pretty much the the height of the mountain again. Exactly. So now we're going four times up and down the mountain equivalent of Yeah, it's ah it's ah it's a real beast. And um ah so we've we've done some – so the 66K aims to be inclusive even for, you know, for the tail um of the pack. the This new 84 is not for the full tail, but we have done some timing analysis on the, you know, using the the um ultra solo finishes, so the 66K finishes, And 90% of those should just make cutoffs. So, um yeah, midfield should be able to get through a bunch of the tail. No, it won't be. So, um yeah, we had to make some some operational and logistical and resourcing, um you know, calls on that. And, and yeah, did the time analysis to know that, yeah, the... the
00:58:15
Speaker
The front, obviously, but mid-pack as well. So it's not just this 84K is not just for the elites, and Autra was really clear on this that, you know, we don't want a chance to be just for the elites. It's it's a course where, you know, mid-pack runners can step up and and run side by side with the elites for a little while and still have the full experience. So, um yeah, that's that's what we've got.
00:58:41
Speaker
After running ah the VK on Friday, ah But we do say, of course, the yeah the best kept secret of trail running is you don't actually run uphill, right? So it's only you elites that that do that crazy running uphill business. You can do the double.
00:58:54
Speaker
And um i think ah I think I'm right in saying that for the national champs events, there's age group championships as well, which is like where that you want to make sure that 84K, like you said, can can suit those ah people, not just the elites, it suits sort of everyone. So that's that's pretty cool.
00:59:12
Speaker
Yeah, and we're just just working with ORTA and AA now to to understand where those age age um categories actually line up and and, you know, are we going to have consistency or are we going to have different age groups for mountain and trail? But I guess yeah just worth um ah sharing the the schedule, of course, of champion championship events. So Friday afternoon, I think it's two buses leave around 1pm for the vertical kilometre. So 5k horizontal with a thousand metres vertical. Saturday is the short and long trails. Champs. Long is this new 80K or 84. And Short Trail is our existing Alpine Marathon 46K. That's that's ah another beast for the distance, absolutely.
01:00:03
Speaker
And then Sunday is the classic up, down mountain running Champs. The open category is our um And we we actually hosted the the mountain running champs um last year. So 14K is the open category. That's got almost or around 700 metres vert and the 9K foothills is the under 20 category for, ah what is it, around...
01:00:28
Speaker
400 vert or something like that. And yeah, we're we're we're just outside um the the the distance categories there for under 20s and also one kilometre over for the short trail. But hey, they're amazing existing um courses and and didn't want to, you know, chop a bit off just to make the distance. So it still fits in. within ORTRA's requirements. um Yeah, it's just outside worlds, but that's that's okay. Yeah, I think it is it would still give a good reflection. We know the the mountain running chance this year looked like the times that people were running looked roughly right in any way in terms of what what sort of times they'd be expecting to run at World Champs. And that um mountain running course was really fun in the sort of foothills to mid-mountain. Like I sort of went out and tested it when I was down in Tassie over summer and was, yeah, it's a really enjoyable course. So, Yeah, I feel like there's lots of variety um in those courses, a challenge at every distance for sure. um And hopefully, like I think the added benefit to sort of having all the events is those people who are who are running, say, short trail, they can go out and and cheer on the VK runners and then come down on Sunday and watch the mountain running champs, hopefully, and and vice versa for the the people who are doing the mountain disciplines. So. um hopefully there's there's a bit of spectating and and cheering going on as well, which will be very fun.
01:01:59
Speaker
Yeah, nice. And all the recommended spectator spots are up on the Strava courses as well. i We'll be adding some more. Oh, cool. Yeah. Nice one. How um did it go holding the Mountain
Insights from Mountain Champs Experience
01:02:12
Speaker
Champs this year? Is there anything that you learnt from that you're going to change for next year? Eligibility, being very clear about that up front and including it in the rego process. um So we yeah didn't quite um get full clarity from Athletics Australia on it um because, you know, they just said Australian. And was like, well,
01:02:34
Speaker
What does that mean? Citizenship or permanent residency? And, yeah, so um that that's that's an easy one to fix. um And, yeah, I mean, we switched to a new timing system last year and some of the data wasn't coming through live, unfortunately. And, yeah, we've we've sorted all that out. um That was all fixed for Diverge. so And then yeah like there's a thousand, like now, um yeah, there's a thousand things. ah you know, thinking about and and keen to try and get to happen for for this year to really try and level up or step up the the experience, particularly for people watching at home. So, of course, you know, live stream and all that sort of stuff. But, hey, three days of a live stream is ah is a pretty big deal um for this scale event. So, you know, looking for, ah you know, yeah funding partners to help help sort that out and and then, you know, resources for that, commentators, Nudge Nudge Brodie if you're if you're not running or, you know, on the ah and anyone from, you know, any of your hosts, of course, ah most welcome. um And, yeah, and a bunch of other things. um We're also looking at our elite um or athlete support team
01:04:00
Speaker
not only the policy, but, you hey, what can we we actually do? Red Joes, of course, are um something that's well within our control and we've we've got ah a couple – and accommodation, you know, hard costs are are a big thing. They're trying to sort out. So, um yeah, trying to get some more funding for that and and our accommodation partners already said they'll sponsor a couple of spots.
01:04:25
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hassling the airlines and Spirit to to get some chunky discounts there and and all that sort of stuff and and even looking at a... um And so we want to support athletes who want to come down and do it but, you know, it might struggle to to make it for the people who've...
01:04:46
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you know, some pretty decent support from the brands in terms of some travel allowance and and whatever else, then, um you know, still keen to support them as well. But if if they're getting some travel supported, then maybe the the athletes who don't get travel supported looking to support them. Even looking at billeting system for – because, of course, we'll we'll have a very finite limit of accommodation we can provide.
01:05:10
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um But, um oh, hang on. Here's a question. Prize money. now yeah There's pros and cons on prize money, but how important really is it? i mean, we'd love to, but yeah, it's just do we do we put money into prize money or do we cover a few more athletes' accommodation? Yeah.
01:05:33
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We've had this conversation a few times as well as like is it if you've got a bunch of prize money, is it better to offer bigger prize money for a smaller amount of people or offer larger prize money, which is a similar question to i think that do you offer prize money or do you offer athlete support? um I think my mind is like prize money is a way to ah prize money is a way One of the key things I think it is is useful for is to help people be like, oh, i can actually commit to that. That's that's a something I can commit to because there's a chance that I can get that prize money and it'll pay for the event as well.
01:06:10
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like that's it so So athlete support works in a very similar way in my mind. um So, yeah, it really depends. With elite support, like how do we make that process fair if it's an Aussie chance? Like he's I don't know, in my mind it's sort of like everyone who's signing up as part of that Aussie chance has to have equal support. But, yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
01:06:34
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Yeah, good point. And we we're just, you know, starting to put this together now and are planning to, um you know, sort of get input from um you know, from the community and and I guess to start with the Autra Trail Subcommittee um and so interested in everyone's thoughts and, hey, just ping us a message with with anyone's thoughts, any listeners, you all all your thoughts and advice is very welcome. um ah
01:07:06
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it's It's tricky, right? there's no There's no right answer. There's always um people, ah worthy people who will miss out no matter what, what the policy is because, you know, there is finite amount of support. And so um i guess my current thinking is, you know, and and looking at other um ah ah athlete support policies or initiatives out there, of course you want to have the most competitive as possible, but it's not just the very pointy end. I'm really interested in that is in that depth, in the, in the you know, not not necessarily top five, but, you know, the next 20 is, 20 to 30 is what we'd love to be able to support one way or another. And so, yeah.
01:07:59
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Try to ask, and I sort of hinted at it before, you know, if if an athlete has support for travel, then, hey, you know, would you, I might even ask it, hey, do you get travel support? and And hence, would you be okay to pass over your travel support to someone else should but should you be um successful, that sort of thing. We're also keen to talk to...
01:08:22
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um the the brand teams as well and it's like okay guys like look can you really step up your support go find more money somewhere because hey lifestyle is making huge bucks out there on trail running products um Go get some of that and support your athletes because, you know, in ah in a few years once um once the lifestyle boom ends, it's like where's your core, where's your heart? Well, athletes and sport and the adventure is 100% where it's at.
01:08:54
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um don I don't know if I fully answered your question there, Jess, but it interested in your thoughts on – I don't know. Yeah, there's probably not like a straightforward answer um because it is tricky to balance. I just – Yeah, it would be probably interesting, like something to ask AA, um like how they manage that on the track side of things with their nationals.
01:09:15
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um That would be interesting to hear what they have to say. i reread their Aussie team, Aussie trail team selection document here for 2025 again, like literally tonight. And it's pretty brutal.
01:09:31
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Like, it's it's quite dry and, and you know, just just reading it, it's you know, very rules sort of language, it didn't feel too supportive. to be honest honest But ah yeah i feel I think there might be some might be some like even the the policy for Asia Pacific for this year um has changed a little bit to be a little bit less like that, I think. And I know what you're talking about because I was yeah nominated for that team. But I think it's I think it's on a pathway to be a little bit less like that.
01:10:01
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um But obviously, there's still some I think there's still some requirements that they they sort of have to put in there. um But yeah, it's an interesting one because I think like what you said there, like is it fair to have an Australian Championships where some people got support to be there and some didn't is a tricky one. um But on the flip side, offering to support to as many people as you can would also be very good. um So it's like would you use that as a barrier to not do it?
01:10:29
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um I don't know. But for me on the prize money thing, if you think like if you put that question to the side for a moment, um I think the prize money is a good carrot, but this already has a carrot in terms of the national championships, the potential for being important for selection, um just the event itself being an attractive event to go to. um And therefore, if you're still giving back to the elite athletes in another way, ah I personally don't think it's super necessary. um
01:11:01
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But then I guess if you decided that you you couldn't do athlete support because of whatever reason, maybe the fairness thing, then potentially prize money does play a part there because it's not like you're disadvantaging anyone before the event um and you're still providing some a sort of pseudo support for some of the athletes. So it's it's an interesting one. I don't know. Like you said, I don't think there's ever a right answer, but it's good to start thinking about it now and it's good to hear that you're interested and it doesn't surprise me but it's good to hear that events are sort of wanting to support and especially that depth thing i think you're right there that's that's a key part to developing the sport in australia is encouraging the depth not just encouraging the top three people to come along and we sort of had that discussion a little bit around the
01:11:47
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the Donna double which had some big prize money and it was like maybe paying down to more people and offering less prize money is good because we get more depth to the event um and the depth is a thing that sort of grows the sport probably. um So from ah from a sport development point of view, I think um that focusing whatever your – your ideas are on depth is ah is a good way to approach it. Yeah. And I think um this discussion is now sort of helped me answer my question that, yeah, I reckon we've got like putting the the cash that we do or expected to have access to we're going to be able to have more benefit for for for greater depth and a greater number of athletes by putting it into support rather than definitely rather than prize money. And, and and you know, we'll say that. It's like, why don't we have prize money? Because, you know, it'd be nice to. But that's just probably where we're at. Yeah, and I think like in a standard thing, if you just, if like obviously KMR, a different year, might be different, but like,
01:12:53
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National championships don't necessarily in sports have prize money because it's the national championship. So I don't say i think from that side of things, like, yeah, obviously in in an ideal world, if we had heaps of money, then yeah, for sure, add it on. But if you're trying to decide where to put the money, then I think maybe for a national championship, it it might work better in other places. But yeah, as Lincoln said, if anyone has any um any feedback, feedback,
01:13:20
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hit us up, like comment on the post. We'll compile everything, send it over to Lincoln with people's thoughts and ideas um because, yeah, just talking about this stuff and getting people's opinions and thoughts on it can sometimes help come to the best solution. Yeah, definitely. And, I mean, another – we've had ah a very immersive scholarships program for a team of six for the last three years and that has been like – So powerful and one of the most personally rewarding parts of KMR actually and we're considering, and this has literally just been a conversation, an idea that we're tossing around today and we're not going to decide yet, but um may switch. So the purpose of the team is um and the selection of the team members is um to be to have the potential to be a really transformative experience and turn people's lives around and, um you know, give them ah an amazing focus that and and, you know, the the benefits, the health and wellbeing benefits that we all know and love. It's good for the soul and, um you know, for them to inspire their their people to um step onto the trails with them and all that sort of thing. And some of the stories that have come out of that are just amazing.
01:14:40
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phenomenal, blows me away every year. We are considering switching that up to be to have a performance focus because the the program does not have a performance focus at all at the moment. It's, you know, get to the start line and, and you know, have a red hot crack kind of thing. Whereas on a champs year, and we'd only do this on a champs year to then actually, well, if we can help some up-and-coming youngsters, you know,
01:15:10
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step up to, um you know, compete quite well on the national and hence potentially international stage, then maybe we've got a responsibility to do so um through the scholarships program. So anyway, interested in your thoughts on that. So we're looking at, say, 16 under your olds We'll always reserve um a couple of spots for um for Indigenous um runners um and always try to have as as as much of a gender balance as as possible but, um you know, still take on the the people who are going to have, um you know, the best ability to to to make it absolutely amazing. But, yeah, how does it how does that sound?
01:15:59
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Tasmanians, of course. Sorry, rest of Australia, but you've got to be here to... to get on the mountain and, uh, and receive the in-person training. Yeah. I think it like, it sounds so ah like the, the storylines of the, some of the people that you've had as part of the program in the past is like you said, pretty amazing. Um,
01:16:18
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and I wouldn't want it to sort of go away from that for for like entirety, but like i I don't mind the idea of linking in with ah it being the national champs and it being sort of like maybe not a one-off because you might have it again in the future, but like it being some sort of different thing and and still having the same flavor to it, but like a slight performance focus. I sort of,
01:16:37
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I sort of like the like the idea. I like both ideas, to be honest. i think you I think you could keep what you have, but I also think you could could try this for a year and and see what you think of it.
01:16:47
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um Yeah, I don't know. Jess, any thoughts? ah No, I think it all sounds really good. And I think, um yeah, just getting as much kind of advice maybe from like AA um and Orchard that you can because I guess they've been sort of running...
01:17:06
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these national champs um for yeah a longer time in like track and road running. um So, yeah, just leaning on them for advice would be my suggestion.
01:17:18
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Yeah, 100%. And all all the um eligibility and age categories and all the technical regs, all that stuff is 100% effectively coming from them. We're just pushing them to, hey, do you guys want to align on some of this stuff? Yeah.
01:17:37
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Yeah, definitely. Well, very exciting times. um We might um move on in a moment, but we'll finish on one question. Lincoln, what is the one thing you're most excited about for KMR 2027? Oh, if you had to narrow it down to one sort of niche thing, not too broad. Give me a specific.
01:17:56
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yeah good Good question. I mean, I'm i'm looking forward to – I mean, it's – the media release, ah but the media event, like its just seeing how many – like the all the media that turned up and like the mayor and and all the all the people who wanted to come and share their thoughts on their stoic, their excitement and how much of the community has really picked it up and the invite to come on this podcast and and that. That's the background. So to answer the question – um to continue to see the community want to come together around this first ever combined um mountain and trail national champs to just see what we can make of it, like in terms of it elevating it. And, you know, i'm um surely we're going to make this this live stream work and, you know, make it as epic as possible. That'd be true.
01:18:54
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And, on yeah, the the one thing I'm most excited about is the hope that we achieve our objective of... um making it something that everyone is proud of, that everyone who invested their time and money to come down um and Tasmanians, but just everyone who competed to so to be stoked at, hey, yeah, this was this was epic. let's Let's keep elevating this sport. And, you know, we feel like part of a movement that is growing and elevating.
01:19:31
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very exciting yep cool good answer i like it i'm very excited i'll be i'll be excited if you can put a live stream together but i think we even without that i think you can still reach towards that goal of energizing the sport in this way and and elevating it with this sort of national combined national champs and and laying the groundwork for an event to take it on the year after and the year after so yeah i think it's I think that's a really good objective and yeah I'm excited to see how it all comes together um next year. Fantastic. All right. Well, we've got a link and if you want to drop off, you're more than welcome to. If you want to hang around for a little bit, we're going to talk about a couple of news items, a few results. We don't have too much up to you, but I'll just ah jump onto our first thing, which was
01:20:19
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uh some people may have seen the hard rock 100 was on over the weekend i think sim said she finds this one a bit of an interesting race i sort of feel the same like it's i don't know i find it hard to identify with it because it's just it's it's a bit niche it's it's got sort of like its own it's only got 147 runners it's it's at a very high elevation it just I don't know. It's not one that I sort of specifically look forward to, but I know it has such crazy history. It's really ah quite an iconic race. So it's still cool to sort of yeah see what happens. But i I wouldn't say I engage with it as much as I do as like a Western States or some of the other big events.
01:21:01
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Yeah, it sounds like it's a pretty prestigious race for um kind of like the internationals that are into that like miler distance. um Yeah, i was sort of listening to the male and female winners um like their podcast interview um after and yeah it was just interesting to learn like just hear a bit more about like the tactics so um the male winner was saying like he's won it a few times I think and he was saying like his strategy was uh to take the uphills
01:21:36
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very easy because of the altitude and then just really bombed the downhills. um So that's obviously worked for him. um And then, yeah, Courtney DeWalter was a female winner and she's won it a few times as well, I think. and yeah she said, yeah, all of like she's a bit frustrated because like she can't seem to get faster. Like she's just been like super consistent.
01:22:01
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But, yeah, that's... yes Yeah, so Courtney won um the women's race in 26 hours and three and that was, yeah, Ludovic Pomeroy who is now 50 years of age and he's won at I don't know if he's won it three times. He he definitely won, oh, yeah, third year in a row he's won it. So he's still crushing and he also broke his broke the course record around 21-11. But, um yeah, it was it's just like such a crazy race seeing like,
01:22:33
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like Tom Evans who won UTMB last year, like have to DNF because of the altitude and that sort stuff. So it seems like it suits some specific athletes but just like.
01:22:44
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I heard um Ludo, like the male winner, say that he knew that Tom Evans was going to pull out if he wasn't in the win. um Okay. Because his fallback is UTMB.
01:22:59
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I can talk to this one actually and and thanks for keeping me on. No worries. Because, it i haven't run it but i but you run it I've run a bunch of the mountains and ridgelines around Silverton. Because I was there for 22, so i spent like 10 days in in and around Silverdon doing the trail work days and then i was um on an aid station, one of the biggest bigger aid stations that was up around ah almost 3,000 metres vert, I think, elevation. And um yeah, altitude is a massive thing. So unless you've got...
01:23:42
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altitude condition, it's you're not going to thrive at Hard Rock, full stop. um And it's like the community around it is phenomenal. It is like all the deep, um you know, hardcore American runners are really like so into it. and You know, I run for Brian Power, Megan, um ah that's that's where they live. They moved there for hard rock like 10 years ago and and and all that. it's it's Yeah, it's phenomenal um just seeing how. And, you know, a few Australians go in it each year or some years. I mean, there was there was one or two the year i was there. And, yeah, it's it's it's a really –
01:24:30
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amazing community and it's a super huge achievement to even finish a loop, you know. So you see the massive differences between um the winners and even second and third is, yeah, it's it's it's a real tough race.
Racing Amidst Wildfires
01:24:49
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And um they also had massive wildfires there And so it was a bit touch and go even whether they were going to hold it. There was a bunch of other races happening around there around the same time and and others got cancelled. But the wind was just in a good enough direction. But there still would have been smoke around. So to see course records drop, and you know, in those in those conditions is pretty amazing.
01:25:14
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So it gives any any older athletes some inspiration because both of them are both in the older older athletes and and not that Courtney's that old but Ludo being 50 years of age, pretty crazy that he can still win world-class event like this.
01:25:31
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Yeah. Nice one. All right. Well,
Transcend Trails Enhancements
01:25:33
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the next, uh, oh, we talked a little bit about prize money tonight. So we actually have some news about a race that has some, some increases to their prize money. So transcend trails, which is over in WA, um, already had some prize money for their 65 K, um, which is a ah decent amount as well. It's, it's been sort of attracted some runners over the last few years with that sort of prize money. Um, but they've added some gold, which is very exciting. Actual gold.
01:26:05
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The real stuff.
01:26:09
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Jess was giving us some background because I was like, why are they giving out gold? This is so strange, but it's ah it's a WA thing, Jess. Oh, like WA is just one big mining town. no Okay. No, I'm joking. I think – well, it is actually um also offered at Leonora, the golden gift.
01:26:27
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Yes, I knew that one. yeah Yes. But i I assume that they've got a mining company as a sponsor. again Yeah, Orabanda. Yeah. And Transcend is actually the um sort of partner, sister event on on our ultra distance site.
01:26:45
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which no one really probably knows about, but, yeah, it's an epic event. Everyone should get out there at some point. Yeah, so just giving the update, they have 65K the sort of main event. And so it was $2,000 for the winner. They've added $3,000 in gold. Gold prices can fluctuate. So hard to exactly know how much that is. So that's just an estimation, approximately $3,000 in gold. Second was $1,000 in cash and has now been added $2,000 in gold on top of that. And third was $500 cash.
01:27:18
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two thousand dollars in gold on top of that and third was five hundred cash and has now been added $1,000 of gold. So those prizes have, I guess, doubled um or more than doubled for some of them. So that's very exciting. And then the 40K, which I think maybe is a new distance. Is that right, Jess?
01:27:39
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Yes. Well, previously um the 40K was just advertised as more of a hike, um but now they are advertising it as more of a competitive race and like the option to hike as well.
01:27:53
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Yes, fantastic. Yeah, so that one has $2,000 worth of gold. Sorry, 2K gold for first, 1K gold a second, 500 gold for third. So pretty exciting times and and and cool to see they have like a shorter distance there as well for – maybe some people who aren't quite up to the 65k, some of the um pointy end of the field still maybe doing short trail or 30k races, they could probably step up to that. So um yeah, it fits a nice like middle of the ground. I think it's like, obviously it's in WA. So having the prize money is a good way to sort of draw an East Coast field across there. And I think it it will, it already was. um And maybe we'll get some more runners. And it's the sort of time of the year where there's,
01:28:43
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There's not a lot on. um Is it August? It's like August 22nd, I think, is the date. um So it fills a nice gap there and something maybe nice for, I sort of like it that it has, it fills a nice gap of like an event people who aren't getting across to Europe being one of those people myself this year can do at home and you don't have to travel overseas to do a high-quality event in the middle of the year, um which is really cool. um So, yeah, it's exciting to see that.
01:29:12
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over in WA and I think when we get closer to the time of Transcend we'll try and get Shane on to tell us a little bit more we've had him on before but hear a bit about the event maybe when we do we're looking at we'll probably do a preview episode because um already where there was a good field and and this will probably draw a few more people so it'll be fun to get on and and talk about some of the runners who are heading across to WA you'll be overseas Jess you won't be chasing the gold Yeah, unfortunately occ is only like a week after so I couldn't make work. Not quite worth flying back from France to do it.
01:29:46
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I definitely want to um because, yeah, I didn't get to when I was living in Perth because ah they didn't have the shorter options at the time and I wasn't really up for a sixty five k But it's a super special event and um the trails are beautiful, especially this time of year. Super green. um
Race in Chongli, China
01:30:05
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The Peruna Nature Sanctuary is probably one of the coolest places I've run in Australia. So definitely recommend.
01:30:13
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And it's um it's also different. I think it's like maybe there's some other places in Australia that are a bit similar, but I think it's quite, it's unique to some other areas. So the same as sort of like Lincoln was talking about showing off the mountain and showing off that part of the world. Like I think...
01:30:29
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It looks like a cool event that and it sounds like with that nature reserve, it shows off that part of Western Australia and and and a different side to Australia, which is cool. Yeah, definitely one I'd i'd like to get to one year, I think, as well. It just looks like a cool event and and in in its entirety. So, yeah, cool cool bit of news. um We'll jump on to a couple of results. So we had ah just a couple of races in Australia, but firstly overseas we had...
01:30:57
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ah the I know exactly what it was called, but it was a, I don't know if it was called China Ultra Trail. That's what James has written here. Chongli Ultra Trail?
01:31:08
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ah chongli oh Yeah, I knew it was in Chongli. Yeah, so Chongli Ultra Trail, which is in China, ah close-ish to Beijing, I guess, but you know how big China is, so it's probably not that close. um we There was a bunch of Australians there because I believe single-track events are working with that ah Chongli event um maybe trying to get some people from from that event and from China to come across and compete in some of their events maybe particularly GPT so there was a bunch of the single track trail team over there which is
01:31:45
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A very cool thing to offer and be able to offer to those athletes who are part of that single track trail team. um And I think there was five athletes from from that team and then a couple of extra runners as well from Australia who headed across and competed. So um I'll go through the people we had running. So we had Trent Hillier. I think he ran the 100. was Yeah.
01:32:11
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is a hundred k ye It looked like disastrous conditions though. it was super muddy and wet and like very hard to move it looked like. So that was a bit of a shame. But he 22, 15, came Michael Boyson missed Andy Zhang was in eighteen hours and forty six harrison flynn was the best of the group there in twenty six in fifteen hours forty four oh sorry i missed andy zhang who was one hundred and forty ninth in twenty one hours and 18 so that was the runners who did the 100k and then irish chanel shen shen hall she did the 50k distance and she was eight hours 26 and 300 so a very deep race over there uh
01:33:00
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And then a couple of runners who were also there, I think maybe not part of the single track trail team, but so still across there and getting amongst it was Jeremy May ran the 50K as well in six hours and three minutes in 52nd.
01:33:13
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And can Tinka Von Elster, always get her name from Von Elsner-Wellsteed, sorry Katinka, she was seventh in the 30K, which ah we don't actually have, we haven't found a link to the results. We got those results from Katinka. So i I'm not sure exactly what times the other people ran, but she did get to stand up on the podium, which is very yeah China. They love getting everyone up there. So yeah um she got a cool picture up on the on the podium holding her um seventh place, which was, yeah, cool to see. Yeah, and um the Singletrap Team Instagram page posted like a video of Jeremy, I think in the last descent, he was just on this like slip and slide. Like the conditions looked pretty horrible, um which is why I think some of those times look quite long. Like I think the terrain was super muddy, is super slow. um So well done to those runners for getting through it.
01:34:10
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Yeah,
Australian Trail Race Results
01:34:11
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nice one and cool to see some some Aussies in action over there. ah Closer to home we had or at home, we had the Rafferty Coastal Run in New South Wales.
01:34:24
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That one has 36K. So in we had Ronan in first in two hours thirty seven forty six Vlad Shatrov in second in 2 hours 39.05 and Matthew Morgan in 2 hours 46.57.
01:34:46
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So some pretty close racing there. And in the women's, Steph Austin was the winner in 3 hours 19.05. Second was Jessica canning in Cannings hours
01:34:59
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And Kiara McCourt was third in three hours 33.37. So that was, I think that might be the main distance, the 36K.
01:35:10
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um They also had the 22K. So the winner in the men's was John Pynchon in one hours 33.52. And in the women, we had Beth Mensah in one hour 55.11.
01:35:27
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Then in the 15K, we had Jeremy Campbell in first in 104.36. And then first female, second overall was Therese Clark in 1-10.21. So pretty good run there from those two runners and good Therese to jump on the main podium as well.
01:35:47
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That was Rafferty's. We also had Howling Dog. Have you got either of these ones, Jess? you want to read out one of them? Yeah. So we had the Howling Dog After Dark Trail Run, which is in a place called Wyala in South Australia. It just sounds kind of rural, but I'm not sure. that might be Flinders, close-ish, but I'm not sure. It just rings a bell. No, it's not. I'm wrong. Yeah.
01:36:16
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It's ah on the – Oh, no, it's coastal. Yeah. Yeah, it's like on the – what's that peninsula called? I don't know. The Air Peninsula. Near Port Augusta. One of them is called that. Yeah. Sorry. So pretty rural. It's like pretty far away from Adelaide anyway. Yeah.
01:36:35
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But yes, the main distance was 25K. And in the women's race, we had Willowa Atkins in first place um in a time of 2 hours 10. And Ashley Broham took second in 2 hours 12.
01:36:53
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um And Mitchell Broham took second. was third in 2 hours 29. And then in the men's, we had Trent Kranz in first place in 1 hour 55, Matthew Larsen in second in 2 hours 01.06, and then Toby Furmeister in third 2.01.18.
01:37:19
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nice cool we also had over in south australia the ultra adelaide now this one had a lot of different distances and this one is i'm going to get my geography right for this one it's it in adelaide hook close to adelaide but it looks like the 100 distance Might be a point to point.
01:37:41
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I'm just having a look at this sort of interactive map. I'm not sure if it's on the Heisen Trail because I know that's in that rough area. Someone will be able to correct me. But it does go from like down near Kangaroo Island all the way sort of back towards Adelaide, which looks like a cool sort of point to point race uh so i guess we start with a 100 miler uh first was jared allen in 16 and a half hours 16 hours 30 in second steve miller 16 59 and third matthew hooper in 17 45 and so it's not showing me everyone here oh here's the in the women jen millam first
01:38:24
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in 23.06 second was Annabelle Swainston in 28.38 and I don't think we had a third female there was just 20 runners in that one uh in the Oh, there may be some, yeah, I think the rest are people who didn't finish. ah In the 100K, we'll just do the winners.
01:38:49
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Outright winner, very cool. Nadia Birch in 11 hours and 15, which seems like a pretty quick 100K. So well done, Nadia. And then first male, second overall was Andrew Heitman.
01:39:02
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in 11 hours, 27, 30. They had a 50K. The winner in the men was Emilean Bonnard in 5 hours, 08. And in the women was Sasha Robinson in 5 hours, 58. So at a 34K, the winner was Samuel Hanshin in 3 hours, 18. And in the women, Brogan Baralglia in 3 hours, 56. And last of all, they had a 21K and the winner was Tim Greenberg.
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It's showing everyone's states. He's from Tasmania. don't know if you know him, Lincoln. First in one hour, 1957. And Bianca Snell from South Africa in one hour, 28 for the 21K. So that was Ultra Adelaide.
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And that is
Upcoming Trail Races and International Participation
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all of our results for the week, I think. So we've got a fair bit coming up next week. I'll just run through these quickly. Elephant Trail Race in New South Wales, Boyne Valley 50 in Queensland, the Guzzler in Queensland, Wild Horse at Night in Queensland, Finch Hatton Trail Run in Queensland, so a lot going up there. i know the Guzzler is a big event on their schedule and the Boyne Valley 50, I've seen a fair few quick runners doing that one before, so bit going on in Queensland. In Victoria, we have the Yu Yangs Trail Running Festival,
01:40:22
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may has hill trail run which is the riverina trail running series number four in wa eagle and child trail run goldfields pipeline marathon i think vlad did that one last year is that one got some gold on it as well feel like may have won some gold or maybe just cash yeah i can't remember his gold or money but he definitely did that one yeah Yeah, I remember that.
01:40:44
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um The Northwest Trail Running Series, number one in Tasmania, and the Sir Chinmoy Canberra Trail Series at Aranda. The Aranda Meander. That's a mouthful in ACT. So a lot going on. Some of the series ah kicking off or continuing across the country, which is very cool to see. um We'll have a few of those results coming at you next week. I think we also have...
01:41:10
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Charlie Hamilton running hundred k at... oh yeah like Monterosa UTMB. um And he's on the elite field there, but he's racing at some pretty good people. So it'd be a good hit out for him. I think Christian Monogio won that last year and he's running again. He was the the guy who was sort of head to head with Jim Wormsley at OCC last year. So some he's going to be up against some some strong runners. And Kate Avery is running the...
01:41:41
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15 K I think all the 20 K version I'm not exactly sure how long it is actually yeah I think it's um it's quite technical so the 100 K is actually only 80 but it takes a long time yeah okay I vaguely remember Charlie telling me that yeah yeah But it's still like the equivalent and maybe sounds like the same for the 20K. Yeah. So yeah that one's on over the weekend. um So some overseas racing, which will be cool to see. And, yeah, that's us.
01:42:11
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Thank you, Lincoln, for coming on. it was great to have a long chat with you about KMR. Very exciting. And all the best with the planning. Cheers and always good to to come on. And there's always a thousand more things to to share. So, um yeah, always open for feedback from from anywhere. So, um yeah, please send it all through.
01:42:35
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Yeah. So, yeah, as I said before, if anyone has any thoughts they'd like to share, um feel free to flick them to us and we can get them onto Lincoln. Otherwise, just spam him directly. Yeah, go, Niles.
01:42:50
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Thanks again, Lincoln. Great to hear from you. And Jess, good luck with it. Jess, when are you off to, you must be getting close, off to Europe? Yes, the 29th, so a couple of weeks away. A couple more weeks. was pretty exciting. So we might hear you again before you leave. Yes. Or maybe when you're in Europe. definitely keen for some warm weather. Yeah,
Conclusion and Travel Plans
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cool.
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Yeah, it's been like I got a frost on the way to work when I was riding the other day and it was fairly chilly. i get yeah I think you get a few a few more of them in Canberra than ah and Tasmania than I get here in Melbourne, so I shouldn't complain. Yeah.
01:43:26
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Nice one. Oh, well, thank you both to joining me thank you for listening in, everyone, and we'll catch you next week. Thanks, guys. Thanks.