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Stay Sparked #40 "Bringing Projects to Life (& Rest)"
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How do the seeds of inspiration grow into an actual thing? What are ways to overcome doubt and push an idea forward? And when do you know that it is time to say "I'm done" and put a project to rest?
HOSTS
BETSY FINKLEHOO is a healer of massage therapy, CranioSacral and Dharma Coaching. She is an 8 year burner and has spent the last several years seeped in the personal development world, cultivating her passion for transformation and growth. Her recent project, The Power Affirmation Journal and virtual group empowers women to cultivate self awareness and healthy habits so they can live in greater freedom, mind body and spirit.
http://poweraffirmation.com/
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HALCYON is full-time Love Ambassador. He is the founder of Hug Nation YouTube channel and daily zoom gratitude circles. He is co-founder of the Pink Heart Burning Man camp and the 1st Saturdays project for people experiencing homelessness. In his free time he coaches individuals on how to live joyfully and authentically. His other podcast is "Hard on the 80's."
http://JohnStyn.com
JANUS REDMOON is a 10-time Burner, and has spent the last several years as an advocate for psychedelic medicine research and treatment. He is the founder and CEO of NuWorld Nutritionals, a nutritional supplement company providing mushroom-based, all-natural products to improve and maintain health for both body and mind. (Use code "SPARKED" for 10% off)
http://www.nuworldnutritionals.com
MASSIVE Thank you to Dub Sutra for their beautiful opening music. Check out their incredible music catalogue online.
https://dubsutra.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Focus
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Welcome to Stay Sparked.
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On this show, we explore how to stay inspired in the modern world through the most profound lessons from Burning Man, relationships, entrepreneurship, psychedelics, spirituality, travel, and more.
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On today's episode, we talk about bringing projects to life and putting projects to rest.
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We pull back the curtain a bit on our own personal journeys of our creative projects.
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We discuss how to level up our dreams and ideas and also how best to recognize when to let them be.
Gratitude and Personal Reflections
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Enjoy the episode.
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Hello and welcome to Stay Sparked.
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We are three longtime friends here to share inspiration with you and hopefully spread the sparks.
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I am Betsy.
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I'm Healtheon.
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And I am Giannis.
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Thank you guys so much for listening.
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We are loving receiving reviews from you on Apple Podcasts.
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And now we have an Instagram channel where you can leave comments, where we can actually communicate back with you.
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So please find us on Instagram, stay sparked.
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So we love starting with gratitude.
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So I'd love to hear from you, Halcyon.
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What are you grateful for today?
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I am feeling grateful for the opportunity to share gratitude or to let people know how much they mean to you.
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I visited my old neighborhood and got to say thank you to some of my friends' parents that I hadn't seen forever.
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And it just felt so good to let them know that the impact that they had on me when I was a little kid was something that I still remembered.
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So I'm grateful for that opportunity.
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Words of acknowledgement.
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That really does make a difference.
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Awesome.
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How about you, Yanus?
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I would be remiss if I did not express my gratitude for the blessing way that was held for my partner and I over the weekend, organized by dear, dear friend who organized a bunch of ladies together to celebrate my partner as she is about to give birth next month.
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And it was just sweet in all the ways.
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It was fantastic.
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Thank you so much to you, Betsy, and everybody else who made it happen.
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So beautiful.
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It was an honor to get to be the lead auntie in this special ceremony, welcoming this rite of passage.
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So beautiful.
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Thanks.
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I will share my gratitude for nature.
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Nature just does it for me.
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It just brings me home into presence, whether that's the ocean or the trees or just the breeze, the birds, nature.
Creative Projects and Personal Journeys
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It's just, I'm so grateful to be able to be inspired by nature.
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You're here.
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All right.
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So we are going to dive into a curious conversation here about creative projects.
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We all are creatives.
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We all have brought projects to life on our life journey.
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We've also put projects to rest.
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in our experiences.
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And so we wanted to give you guys out there, some listeners out here, and also to each other, a little peek behind the curtain around how we got to be where we are, insight into some of the projects that we have been pouring our love into, other projects that we have put to rest.
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And so we're going to get curious with each other.
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So love to start off with something.
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Actually, I'm really curious with Halcyon.
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So you created this project that is called Love Mornings, and it has been a dedicated practice of yours to show up every morning online at 9 a.m.
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on your Facebook channel, sharing your love, bringing people together, asking them what they're grateful for.
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It is really inspiring.
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And I'm so curious.
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How did this come to life?
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And how is that for you holding that kind of project for so long now with such consistency?
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Wow.
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Well, it actually, it's seeds came when I was at an ayahuasca retreat and was challenged by the organizer to
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take the lessons, take the inspiration, and how am I going to practice that in the world?
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So I was trying to figure out how can I infuse more love into the world?
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And so my first thought was like, I'm going to go online every morning and just say, I love you to everybody that pops in the Facebook Live.
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And this was during the pandemic.
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And it was beautiful.
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But then it took a crisp
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of sharpening when i when as the pandemic started to open up i realized that my kind of connection muscles had had atrophied and i would go out into the world with my head down and just run my errands and get back to my house and i was like man i used to say hello to people you know i used to wave at strangers and
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And so the love morning became like a support group to say, hey, let's all remind each other that we have the ability to be love ambassadors in the world.
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Let's just remind each other that it takes a little effort.
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But if we lift our heads and look at each other, that it really can make a difference.
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And so it's partially a huge part of it was recognizing what do I need?
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what is something that would be useful to me and inviting people to join me.
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And so it becomes this kind of collective, uh, like a, a meetup, or I think of it like as a bullpen, like when I see on cop shows, when the cops are in the morning, okay, here's what we got on the, on the agenda today.
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It's like, okay, guys, we gotta go out and spread a lot of love today.
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Let's do this.
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Um, and, and after, you know, three years or so, what it feels like is, um,
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like a practice, you know, like a yoga practice or a meditation practice.
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It's, it is something that, that is, is something that is critical to my maintaining my mindset.
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Yeah.
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I mean, we, we, we will talk a little about putting things to rest.
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And there was a time when I was trying to decide which projects I needed to close down to make space and
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When I thought about is it time to end Love Morning, it was like, well, no matter what the result is for other people, I need it.
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It is a practice that aids me.
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So I'm going to keep putting my energy into it because it is so nourishing for me.
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I love that so much.
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Yeah.
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You check it in with your heart and the why, right?
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Why you're doing something.
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And if it's really like coming from that place of that, that inner wellspring of joy, then yeah.
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Keep following that.
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That's so beautiful.
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Great.
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Interesting.
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I don't know why, but I'm moved to comment on a television show that I'm just barely familiar with, but I saw a clip from it of this monologue that a guy gave the lead character.
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It's a show called The Bear, which is about a guy, a chef, a younger guy, but takes over a restaurant.
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And the food is amazing.
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Everybody loves it.
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And he is an absolutely miserable person.
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And the show kind of really dives into that and it's like his misery and his unhappiness and everything else.
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But it's kind of played a little played a little bit for last, but also play for for, you know, tragic effect.
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And but somebody asked him, I was like, well, if you're not if you're so unhappy, then why do you do this?
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And he's like, he never considered.
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He's like, what's what does my happiness have to do with this?
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He's like, the people need to eat.
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The people need food.
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The people need what I have and what I'm capable of giving them.
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So I give it.
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My happiness is beside the point.
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It's like, this is not about me.
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This is about them.
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I'm here.
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I'm a servant.
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That's it.
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And so stop coming at me with this, these, these questions.
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Like he didn't even want to really consider it that if he was, he might be happier doing something else, but he was so good at what he does that he felt that he just had to do it.
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And, and it was like, huh.
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And I'd never really considered that.
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I don't know that I agree with it, but I get it.
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So, so, and I think,
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The healthier thing is to do what Halcyon is doing and be like, no, this is good for me.
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And it happens to be good for a lot of other people.
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So I'm going to continue doing this because it nurtures something in me that I want to nurture.
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But yeah, it's a different opposite ends of the spectrum approach to kind of doing the same thing.
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Totally.
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And everybody does things differently.
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I love that perspective, though, because, yeah, if he feels called or if someone feels called to share a skill because it's needed, even though it might not bring them joy, there's some kind of fuel inside of them that are that's getting them to do that.
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You know, I, I don't resonate with that either.
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I want to follow my joy.
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Yeah.
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Whenever I create, uh, if it's coming from joy, then I'm going to create it even more efficiently and more effectively because if it's coming from a place of like feeling like I have to do the thing, then it just comes from this like density and this kind of like a trudging along.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I feel that that is an important point because the joy is what makes it sustainable.
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If you're constantly giving, giving, giving, and there's nothing coming back to fill your cup, that is that you're that thing you're doing as an expiration date on it is probably not that far off.
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So I would imagine and I want to ask you, Betsy, about, um,
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Let's say when I first met you, you were super into the clothing and to upcycling.
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And I imagine that that brought you a certain amount of joy that you were then able to kind of spark joy in other people.
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How did that flow for you?
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I think you've spoken before about how it got started, but I'm interested to hear.
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I mean, you could touch on that a little bit, but I am interested in how you chose to wrap that up.
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How did that chapter wrap up for you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So a little backstories.
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Yeah.
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I was a clothing designer for about 10 years, primarily using upcycled clothing.
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So repurposing clothing and really teaching people how to transform their already existing clothing into wearable art, which was an amazing journey.
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It was just a wonderful time of my life.
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My creative expression came online and it felt really good to empower people to
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for quite some time.
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And it actually took probably close to two years to unwind and put to rest that part of my expression in the world, my business, my identity was so wrapped up in it.
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But I knew there was a moment when I knew that it was coming to a close.
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And there was this very specific moment that I can remember.
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I had just come back from an event.
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I was doing vending, which, you know, it takes a very specific type of person to do vending.
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You know, we've all been to art fairs and festivals and things.
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And it can be a lot to bring all your things there and share your art with the world and have all these passerbys come through and either buy your art, judge your art, diss your art, you know.
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all the things that come along.
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And so I had come home from a pretty big event and I had my clothes, the clothing that I didn't sell.
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I had it on a rack and I was like thumbing through it.
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And I just felt my heart just drooping.
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I just felt this like, Oh my God, that was a lot of work.
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And it was not fun.
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Everything was dirty.
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I was dirty.
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I didn't make that much money.
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You know, I didn't really even have that much fun.
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And I just felt this like, whereas, you know, previous events, I would come home and be so lit up and so grateful and so inspired and alive and, you
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Fuel to create and I just felt it coming on and I was like, no, this is not bringing me the joy anymore.
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And then the other part of the insight that came from knowing that it was time to shift was that my main passion for starting an upcycled clothing line was because of my
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building awareness around the fashion industry and how wasteful it is.
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And as we know, we can even see now that from the satellites, there's mountains of clothes that are, you know, needing to get cleaned up and it's a very dirty industry.
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And so I wanted to contribute to making a difference.
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But I actually realized that I was kind of contributing to the waste problem.
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It was not really making as much of a difference as I was hoping that it would.
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And so I started to really check in with myself in that process.
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So like I said, it took about two years to really unwind, but I was really inquiring, how can I make a difference in the world with my unique gifts?
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How can I make a positive impact in the world by doing what I love?
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What does that look like?
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What is the next phase of my creative expression going to look like?
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And it was a process.
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It was a real deep process of, I feel like it's the unwinding, that attachment to the identity that I built, the attachment to the creativity, all of my materials.
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When you're doing something for a long time or you're in relationship for a long time, it can take some time to
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to shift out of it.
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And so, yeah, that was probably about eight years ago, maybe seven or eight years ago that I put it to rest.
Letting Go and Evolving Projects
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And you've been naked ever since.
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I've been naked ever since.
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Yep.
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Totally.
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You know, it's like so interesting, you know, I know for those of you, YouTube watchers out there, I'm probably naked right now.
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We're actually just trying to build some YouTube followers.
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Yeah, so that's a little peek, you know, and I think that the other part is for me that feels relevant to share is just around the identity that I had built around being a clothing designer and being somebody who makes my own clothes.
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And I saw I saw this fancy little box that I stitched around myself with this pretty little bows and I was like, oh my God, I'm stuck in this identity.
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How do I get out of it?
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And it was very illuminating to see that there was more parts of me that was wanting to be expressed and to be birthed.
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That is resonating so many chords in me.
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Yeah, I'd love to share a little bit of my experience.
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putting to rest my leadership of my Burning Man camp.
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I haven't really articulated this, but as you spoke, some things really clicked in me.
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13 years ago or 14 years ago, I helped start a camp that was this beautiful, like literally a dream.
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And we were able to, with the help of a bunch of people, you know, made it happen.
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And then last year, I stepped down from leadership.
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And so much went through me as far as that identity thing.
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Like I am, my connection to this group, to this project was so deep that it had been very difficult.
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And I was trying to figure, well, how, like,
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But one of the things that happened was part of the beauty of the experience was I, I articulated a vision and then really trusted that people could shape it in the way that they wanted to.
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And it became something much more beautiful than I could do what I ever thought of on my own.
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And then, you know, a couple of years ago, uh,
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It was designed to be an esplanade camp.
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It was designed to be on the kind of boardwalk so that it would be a beacon and people would see it and we would draw people in.
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And so a lot of my thoughts about it were really focused on this location.
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And so when it was moved by the organization to in the middle of the city, most people were like, not a big deal.
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Everyone's in the middle of the city.
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And I really struggled to try to kind of come to peace with that.
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But a part of me was really just tugged with that.
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That's not the vision.
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That's not my vision.
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That's not my vision.
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And I think what I finally realized is that what it is in the city is something absolutely beautiful.
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And my attachment to the original vision is holding it back.
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Like the whole organization can be something else without me always reminding people or thinking to myself, it's not what it was.
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And I was like, okay, it's time for me to let this, you know, let this thing grow in ways that are beyond me.
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Hmm.
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Yes.
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It's like an entity in its own.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I love that so much because we like get to be these hosts for these creative projects and ideas to come alive.
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And then they start to take on a life of their own and become an entity of its own.
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Like pink heart is its own being is a living, breathing entity, you know, and it changes lives and it creates a safe space for,
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people to come to to have ice cream or whatever it is.
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Right.
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Same thing with like, you know, my current project, the Power Affirmation Project, it's a living, breathing being.
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I get to be the host for this creative idea to come through me and tend to its growth, but it really is something much bigger.
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And so I'd love to inquire with you, Yanis, around your project because
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know i've known you for over a decade and it was maybe what six years ago five six years ago that you started new world nutritionals which i think is now also going to be called red moon organics which is a nutritional supplement company that really helps with all kinds of different neurological ailments and it's been doing really well so i'd love to know where was that spark for you when did you know that you were like oh
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Yes, I am doing this.
Business and Personal Fulfillment
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This is something I'm going to build a business around because you've come so far now.
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What was that spark for you?
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That spark was...
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Needing to, like having some of my own, I know for want of a better term, ailments that I was dealing with and not wanting to use pharmaceuticals to try to alleviate, you know, these symptoms of, you know, executive dysfunction and or depression.
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So, yeah.
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doing some research into how to treat this.
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And one thing that kept coming up was microdosing psilocybin, which I was like, oh, okay, I can try that.
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I had some experience in the psychedelic realm.
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So I tried that.
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The change and improvement was immediate.
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But then a couple of things came along with that.
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The shortened version is that
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After about a week or so of that microdosing, I started getting headaches, which is a common thing for continued microdosing.
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There are compounds to help them.
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The headaches connected with that were about...
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a lack of choline in the brain.
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So then I started adding choline to that and then that solved the headache problem.
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And then ended up creating a stack that I started using and my friends noticed that I was doing better.
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They're like, oh, you seem better.
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What's going on?
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I'm like, oh, I'm doing this thing.
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I'm like, oh, maybe that would work for my brother or my mom or my, you know, my, you know, my girlfriend.
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So I was like, well, you know, here, here, just something has tried it.
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And so I would just make it for friends and then to, to great results.
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And then I started hearing from people who I didn't know, like friends of friends, like, Hey, so-and-so gave me your number and,
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said that you had this awesome product.
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And I was like, well, and after enough of those phone calls and emails, I was like, maybe this is something I can do, but I'll need to start like taking some money and so I can provide it to more people.
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And that was essentially the birth of new world nutritionals.
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And then, which is now like, as you mentioned, turning into a red moon, evolving into red moon organics at the beginning of 2024.
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And, but yeah, business is booming.
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And it's one of those things like,
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kind of filling a market need that I didn't really, you know, I kind of thought might be there, but it really kicked off when the pandemic kind of like came in.
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And then my sales just kind of started going through the roof.
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It was like, okay, so I'm onto something here.
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So, but it felt, and I've been affiliated with a few different business endeavors and,
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It feels, I have to say, it feels really good to be providing something that's not necessarily just like a pet rock or, you know, it's like a widget, like something that is actually like helping a lot of people and doing and really like making a difference in people's lives.
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And that just that just feels good.
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It feels good to me to be of service to, you know, in that way.
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And this is still a.
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you know, kind of a dream of mine that is, that's requiring a bit of nurturing on my part.
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It hasn't yet gotten to the state where it's become its own like entity.
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Like I'm still very much like in the saddle, you know, hand on the reins, kind of spurring it on.
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I'm like, come on, we can, you got it.
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We can do this.
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We can do this.
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And seeing a vision of where I wanted to get to.
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I had definitely been involved with things that took on a life of its own.
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My first, my first real dream is to touch on it briefly.
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Because I feel like we come up with a lot of dreams, maybe as young as, you know, children or even as adults where, you know,
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It's a valid dream for a while, but we are always these changing, evolving beings.
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We are never the set kind of person who Halsey and Betsy and myself are is not who we were five years ago.
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It will not be who we are five years from now.
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A lot of times, we take these dreams along with us.
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We drag them into our next incarnation.
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it's important to recognize when your, your dreams are not your dreams anymore.
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Um, they were, but it's a, it's a tough thing to like, let go of, um, for the, you know, for my, throughout my entire childhood, I was, I wrapped and wrapped with movies.
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I wanted to make movies and I went to film school.
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I went to USC film school, which was just something that not a lot of people knew, uh, that got me to, um, move to Los Angeles from,
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washington from seattle and it's a very the entertainment industry is a very cutthroat industry it's very it was game of thrones before anybody heard of game of thrones it's a lot of backbiting and everything else a lot of egos and for that five years
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My first five years in LA, I was trying to make it in the entertainment industry.
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And those were... And at a certain point, I realized that these were the five unhappiest years of my life.
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And was just like, wow, what am I doing?
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This is like this dream I had.
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It's just like not...
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You know, not it's just not happening.
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So and there's people that are, you know, they're like, no, you got it.
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Like, it takes time.
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He's like, you got it.
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Like, you know, you got to keep it going.
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And I was just like, no, I felt like I'd done five years of my life.
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I'm like, I'm not doing this.
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And that kind of speaks to Halcyon's.
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you know, the idea about the pink heart, you know, the pink heart can't be moved and just, you know, kind of deviating from your vision.
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A lot of dreams are connected to, you know, our, our, our, you know, kind of at the behest of other people's whims.
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Like I like, I need a lot.
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I've got this dream, but I need a lot of people to like,
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help me make this happen.
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And then I realized like, okay, that's not the kind of dream I want to have.
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I want to be able to do my thing the way I want to do it.
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And then to do it the thing, the way it wants to be done.
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It can be a challenge when we do some, when we have a dream and, you know, creating a team is fine, but then if,
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if it's, you know, subject to the kind of the winds of fate, you know, shall we say it can, it can be tricky.
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It can be, it can be tricky to kind of navigate those, those changes in tide.
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So yeah, there's, it's a, it's a lot to hold on to hold on to a drink.
00:25:12
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Your story makes me think of, I saw a, a meme or something that said, people say that, you know, winners never quit, but that's not true at all.
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Winners know when to quit.
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that actually sparked something for me too in my process around the idea of success.
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Because when I was in my stage of being a clothing designer in that world, the idea that I had that if I get my clothing in stores all around the world and I'm a well-known designer, then I'm successful.
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And I made it big.
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you know, and I was kind of going through this process around, did I fail?
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Maybe I'm failing if I'm going to put this to rest.
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But when I finally put it to rest, I actually looked back and go, wow, that was actually quite successful.
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I was able to, you know, have a clothing line that sustained my lifestyle for
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many years.
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It took me around the world, getting to do what I love, meeting amazing people.
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And I started to redefine what my idea of success was.
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is and was.
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And I think that that was a really huge breakthrough for me to be able to move on to the next phase of my expression, my next phase of my offerings in the world.
00:26:29
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man i am so glad that you are coaching people betsy you have such good perspectives but i i want to ask you about um the power affirmation journal um it's i saw that picture recently of you sitting on a palette of this you know product that you've created um but i first i want to ask you i mean it i i have a copy it is so beautiful it is so it's a gorgeous
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creation and i'm wondering like how did you like get to a point where like it's done like this is it's now like or yeah how did you know or how did you not get say that too early
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Yeah, right.
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Yeah, I know.
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Right.
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When you make art, you know, like, you know, when it's done.
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So to give a little context for those listening out there, there's I created a journal about three years ago called the Power Affirmation Journal, and it took quite some time and energy to create it.
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And
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I don't know if it's ever done.
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You know, I'm really grateful for this most recent leap that I've taken to become published.
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I'm so grateful.
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I was approached by publisher and this whole time I've been doing it myself and finding printers and, you know, the
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biggest amount of copies that I had ever printed in one go around was 500.
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And now my publisher is like, let's start with 5,000.
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So that was the mountain you saw.
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And that's the fourth edition.
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It's continuously being refined.
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And it feels important to not really ever be done.
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you know, there is something really valuable about allowing that what I like to consider the upward spiral and the continuous refinement of whatever it might be of our artistry, of our work in the world, of ourselves, of who, you know, who we are.
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And so, yeah, I feel like
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The spark I want to share with you too is because how did I get to now having a published journal, you know, from being a clothing designer and also doing bodywork?
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A lot of times people ask me like, well, wait, you do all these different things.
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I'm good at a lot of different things.
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How do they all weave together and how did I get to be where I am?
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And one of the things that I really allow to guide me is light.
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What is my highest expression?
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What is the way that I can share my light with the world?
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And it comes through in all these different ways.
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I love touching people, love doing body work.
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I love making clothing.
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I love making art.
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I love journaling.
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I love getting to put on events.
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I love community.
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And so I ask myself that question every day.
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How can I share my light with the world in a way today
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that is prosperous, that is impactful, that is rewarding, that is fun.
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And then watch all the different ways that I get to do that.
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And right now, the Power Affirmation Project is fueling so much of my inspiration.
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And it feels really, really good to be able to be at this stage, which a little more insight too.
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This is kind of interesting because we're talking about bringing projects to life and knowing when to put them to rest.
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So not even six or seven months ago, I was really in that contemplation around putting the Power Affirmation Journal to rest.
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It launched in 2020.
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It's been, there's probably about four to 5,000 copies out in the world.
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Thank you to so many of you out there who have bought a copy and have, you know, helps get it out in the world.
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But I was really in that contemplation around like, wow, this is a lot of work.
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I don't know if I want to do the distribution anymore.
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I don't know if I want to do all the printing anymore.
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And I was feeling a little overwhelmed and kind of sales had dropped.
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Paper costs had gone up.
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I was at this kind of like turning point.
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And what I ended up doing was I actually sat with the product as if it's its own being.
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It's a live being.
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It was a baby that I birthed and I had a conversation with it.
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I sat with the journal and I said, Hey,
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Hey, journal.
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Hey, babe.
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I love you.
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I'm so grateful for you.
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You have just changed my life and I'm so happy that we've been on this journey together.
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And and what do you need?
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Like, what's next?
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Do you want to keep going?
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Do you want to be done?
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Is there something else that wants to come through?
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I'm noticing some things are changing.
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There's a little bit of a plateau and really got genuinely curious with the entity of this project, not as of like my own ego.
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It felt really expansive to be in that place of curiosity with it.
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And then I started asking every day, even put it on my altar.
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I was like, okay, just show me what you need and want.
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I'm here.
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I'm listening.
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And then sure enough, I got a call from who is now my publisher from Earth's Elements.
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They were one of my main retailers.
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And they were like, hey, I know we haven't talked in a little while, but we are...
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You know, we built this publishing company now and we're ready to go bigger and we want to, you know, we want to bring 5,000 journals out into the world.
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And so it was like, all right, I'm listening.
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I guess you want to keep going.
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Yeah.
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You know, so there's something really powerful about being, you know, in that deep place of curiosity and listening and getting out of the way and staying humble, you know, because that's
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not easy.
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I was like really facing some places of going like, well, if I put this to rest, does that mean I failed?
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Am I in my own personal patterns of feeling like I can't go big or, you know, all of that kind of stuff comes up when putting ourselves out there and being an entrepreneur.
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Man, I certainly that I'm so impressed.
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I so love hearing that.
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And I so appreciate that you're sharing on that.
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I have three books, two that are published.
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And the first book that I wrote, I...
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I, the only reason I published it is because I had a voice on my shoulder that was so cruel to me that kept saying, oh, oh, how's that book coming?
00:32:52
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Huh?
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When'd you get to write a book?
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Huh?
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When you gonna write a book?
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Huh?
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When you gonna write a book?
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Huh?
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Anytime I would start to like, feel good about myself.
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And so I just,
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pulled together a whole bunch of blog posts and self-published a book and actually brought it to Burning Man, just a couple of copies that I just was gonna burn at the temple to like try to excise this demon that kept attacking me for not being enough and not doing enough.
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And then a number of cat mates saw it and asked for copies.
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And now a lot of people have enjoyed it.
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So I'm like, okay.
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But there's something like,
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The unpublished one, I'm afraid.
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I'm so afraid.
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Like, as long as it's undone, I know it could be awesome.
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You know, the minute that I'm afraid that if I publish it and I finish it and nobody cares, like, I'm not that I'm not ready for that.
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You know, and as long as it stays undone, I can keep that belief that it's going to be amazing.
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It's going to be amazing.
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So I guess, do either of you guys struggle with that?
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Oh, yeah.
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So, so vulnerable to put yourself out there.
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It's like, ah.
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ah, you pour all this love and energy into something.
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And then you like, but all this pressure, you know, and then it's like, oh, kind of, is it safe to put it out in the world?
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You know, is this okay to, to like be so exposed?
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It's, it's so edgy and so scary because yeah, what if somebody doesn't like it?
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Or, you know, I mean, I think you're a master of putting yourself out in the world, Halcyon, you share so much of your life and so much of your
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you know, process with the world.
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It's a very vulnerable place.
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And you've been met again and again with all kinds of different responses.
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And so it's like that with everything, you know, it's going to be the same thing with your book.
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It's going to be so many people are going to be like, wow,
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that's amazing.
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And there's going to also be those people that are going to be like, judge, judge, judge, criticize, criticize, criticize.
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And really, I feel like the big spark here is really being willing to put ourselves out there at the risk of, you know, being judged or it failing, you know, because that is
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what we're
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here to do.
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We're here to share whatever it is that is naturally wanting to come through us.
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And I feel like when we allow service, like you mentioned, how can I serve?
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How can I bring goodness to the world?
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Then hopefully it will make a difference in at least one person's life.
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And that's what matters.
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That's what we need.
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This world needs more people to bring their joy, bring their light, bring their creative projects out into the world to make this world a better place.
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This is so helpful for me.
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I don't know if anyone's going to listen to this, but this is helpful for me because you're so like, like,
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I have this attachment to what success is when it comes to putting a book out there.
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Whereas with the other projects in my life, I have a much more healthier mindset that you were describing of like, how am I sharing light?
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Am I in alignment?
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Am I in integrity?
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And if I do it with integrity, then the number of people that it affects is irrelevant.
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You know, you know, I have a project for Saturdays that we've been doing for 13 years, you know, every month going and giving away things to the homeless.
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And, you know,
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How did it start?
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It just seemed like a good idea.
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And so we just, me and a friend did it and it was awesome.
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And he was of the tradition where he's like, you shouldn't talk publicly about your good deeds.
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And I was like, do you know me?
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Are you serious?
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So I'm like, well, I won't put your name in it.
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And so I shared on Facebook that, you know, I just gave away things to the homeless and it just felt so good.
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anybody want to donate and join us and then you know in the next month 10 people join us and then 15 and 20 we had like 75 people last weekend for first saturdays and and every time you know we run out of stuff every time there's it doesn't the everybody we give food to or clothing to the next day they're going to be hungry and i but it doesn't bother me because the goal isn't to
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do anything except be kind.
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And if I can, I think my solution here is what is that answer in publishing the book for me?
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And I don't know what that exactly is, but I'm gonna work on that, so thank you.
00:37:28
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Well, I think you touched on it.
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You think you both touched on it, the answer to that, which we can, it's funny how we selectively apply it, but that the point is the word attachment.
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And it's the big, it's one of the biggest lessons in, in some religious texts is to undergo action without attachment to the outcome.
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And that is usually the thing that kind of blooms into its own entity because we're not attached to what comes of that action.
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I'm just going to, I'm going to go.
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Feed the homeless with a buddy.
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And because it's the kind thing to do.
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And I like to be kind.
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That's how I want to show up in the world.
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And then it turns into this ongoing beautiful thing that multiple people have engaged with, that multiple people have benefited from.
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Much, much more beyond your initial intention.
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Because you weren't attached to what came of it.
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Same with Betsy's in crew, sitting with your power affirmation journal baby.
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And you know what?
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What do you want?
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What do you want to become?
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Is this you want to become more, stay the same, kind of just sit here on the shelf and that's it.
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And then you get your answer because you're not attached to what that looks like.
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Same with my business.
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It's turning and it's become this thing.
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I was just trying to like help myself.
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I wasn't like attached to anything about that.
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And then even just when I was making it for friends and even like under, you know, taking it on as a business, you know, whatever comes of it is fine.
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But as long as, you know, I'm out there helping people, if it turns out to be like, I sell 10 bottles a month, that's fine.
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That's 10 people helping being helped a month.
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So, so the thing that's, that's the thing I think that short circuits our dreams a lot of times and that are our projects is just being attached to what it, you know,
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our version of it, our vision of it.
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And these things often have their own, have their own ideas.
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So, I mean, so with, you know, with your book Halcyon, I feel like, yeah, just, you know, putting it out there,
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Just getting it done, putting it out there without any sort of like what that's going to be.
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I mean, you've been, you've been laughed at and ridiculed like a lot of times.
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Oh yeah.
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I got a, I got a whole, I got a whole spreadsheet.
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I can bring all the, all the, all the bad things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All the nasty things that have people, people have said about you.
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I got it framed for you.
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I'll put you on the wall.
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I might, I might, I might ask you to hold onto that.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, after a certain point, it's like, what can, honestly, I'm not sure what could be said to you or about you that hasn't already been said.
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Oh, so, okay.
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So that's, that's really interesting because I, I, I think what I'm most afraid is my self judgment, you know?
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Um, and, um,
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I had something, an epiphany last night, I was talking with my partner and saying that I'm afraid, I think, to put the goal out there of getting the book published and getting, because I mean, I could still publish it right now.
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It's not quite polished enough, but what I really want, I want to edit it to a point of excellence and I want it to be as good as possible.
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And then I want it to be published at a level where many people
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Read it.
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And even as I say it out loud, I'm afraid to say a number because I'm afraid to fail.
00:40:52
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And I think that it's... And the epiphany last night was my partner was like, it seems like you are so focused on the beating yourself up if you fail.
00:41:04
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But what if you could take that out?
00:41:06
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And what if you could just set the goal and it's okay if you fail that goal?
00:41:12
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And that is, I don't know, maybe it seems super simple as I say it out of my mouth, but that's, I don't know.
00:41:24
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Does that make sense what I said?
00:41:25
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Yes, it totally makes sense.
00:41:26
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I feel like so many people can relate to that, you know, because we are the ones that hold ourselves back.
00:41:32
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You know, and I completely understand that because it's like, oh, gosh, can I do this?
00:41:38
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So one of the things that I have found, too, is when you speak it out loud to somebody who loves you and who supports you and believes in you, then that is the first layer of accountability that we have to ourselves.
00:41:52
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Right.
00:41:52
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And I feel like that's another reason why it's so valuable to have people in our lives, surround ourselves with people that believe in us, because, you
00:42:01
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I mean, this might be a broad statement, but it feels like there's a large percentage of people that struggle with truly believing in ourselves, right?
00:42:10
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So having people around us that go, yes, I believe in you, then helps to cultivate that deep inner belief in oneself and that inner critic, the inner judge starts to get quieter.
00:42:21
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And that's one of the most important things around creating something and being successful is having that conviction.
00:42:28
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that no matter what, I know this is going to be successful.
00:42:31
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Even if it fails, it's still successful because I put my energy into creating something, right?
00:42:37
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I learned something that might be the success.
00:42:40
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I learned a valuable lesson in it, you know?
00:42:43
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And so for me, what I, um, I just shared this with a friend who's starting a creative project.
00:42:48
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Um, what I ended up doing when I,
00:42:51
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got the idea to create the power affirmation journal.
00:42:54
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It dropped in like many different ideas drop in.
00:42:57
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Of course we get tons of ideas all the time and certain ones we're going to put energy in certain ones, you know, we won't, but this one came in and it was like, I'm pretty sure I need to make this thing.
00:43:07
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Oh my God, this is really edgy.
00:43:09
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Okay.
00:43:09
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All right.
00:43:09
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Well, I'm going to call together a group of close friends was about eight friends.
00:43:15
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And I had a birthday circle and I shared vulnerably.
00:43:21
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okay, dear friends, I love you.
00:43:23
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I need you to hold me accountable to this dream, to this vision, to this goal.
00:43:26
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I want to make a journal in this next year.
00:43:29
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And it felt so like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, you know, because it's really easy to just be internally going like, yeah, I want to make a journal, but I'm not going to tell anyone because then that way, if I don't do it, then it doesn't really matter.
00:43:43
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Right.
00:43:43
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But as soon as I speak it out loud and ask people to hold me accountable to it, then all of a sudden something changed.
00:43:50
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You know, and it was amazing because then that circle, they became my support network and they didn't even really have to do very much at all.
00:44:00
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They basically were like, okay, great.
00:44:01
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How about you send us an email every month just to see the progress?
00:44:05
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You know, and every once in a while they'd be like, Hey, how's that journal coming along?
00:44:09
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You know, and just that little inquiry was like, Ooh, you know, sometimes it brought stuff up and like, Ooh, I haven't really gotten very far along on it, you know?
00:44:17
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And other times it'd be like, Oh, okay.
00:44:18
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I did make a little bit of progress.
00:44:20
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You know, and it was like, I think that was a really, really important stage.
00:44:26
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Part of the process of creation is speaking out loud to people that believe in me to help me to be able to cultivate my own inner belief systems that I could create this thing that felt really big.
Collaboration and Goal Setting
00:44:38
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That's so huge.
00:44:40
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And I think that, like, as I was sharing with my beloved last night, I was feeling this, that feeling of what I can say that I want to do this.
00:44:50
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And if I don't, she's not going to judge me, you know, and I think that that in my personal journey, like, I need to
00:45:01
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have some compassion and befriend my inner critic so that, that I can be assured that that criticism, that attack, that judgment isn't waiting for me on the other side of failing if it happens.
00:45:17
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Yeah.
00:45:18
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The,
00:45:19
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There's so many sparks came up for me listening to you guys share that I feel and I want to kind of touch on what you guys said about the speaking it into reality.
00:45:34
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Like there's nothing that we can hold in our hands that has not been spoken.
00:45:40
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That might sound esoteric, but it's actually a reality.
00:45:46
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Somebody had to be like, let's create water bottles and we'll call the company Zulu.
00:45:54
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You have to speak that in order for this thing to exist.
00:45:58
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I think I want to make some Stay Sparked podcast stickers.
00:46:00
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Yeah.
00:46:01
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you get nobody just thinks that and then they just they just form they just create like you have to actually say it into existence and then it gets then you have the work that i think brings the wherewithal about to make it happen um that's just i i think you can look at everything that you can actually a physical thing that you can hold in your hands i think that's true for everything and as far as you know the idea of like well what if i aim for this thing and and i don't i don't get there um
00:46:31
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I kind of was something that told me, somebody told me long ago and it kind of resonated with me.
00:46:35
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It's like, well, the thing, how do you get the, how do you get to the moon?
00:46:38
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It's like, well, you aim for Saturn.
00:46:40
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You, you, you make this crazy goal.
00:46:43
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Like, how do I, how do I sell 5,000 books?
00:46:45
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It's like, you try to sell 20,000 books.
00:46:50
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And then he's like, you put, you put a goal that you honestly don't expect to reach.
00:46:54
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Like an outlandish goal.
00:46:56
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I'm going to sell 20,000 copies of my book.
00:46:58
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It's like,
00:46:59
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okay, and then that's what you're aiming for.
00:47:02
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You might actually hit that.
00:47:04
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But the idea that you might sell 5,000, I mean, that's 25% of your initial goal.
00:47:10
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It's probably, that's not that, not out of reach.
00:47:14
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So, and the kind of the last thing that kind of came up when you guys were speaking about, there's a saying that if you want to go fast, go alone.
00:47:25
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If you want to go far, go together.
00:47:28
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So at a certain point, your dreams, you need a team.
00:47:33
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You need some people to witness.
00:47:35
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You need some people to help.
00:47:37
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So when it comes to editing a book, I would dare say, you're an author.
00:47:44
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You're not an editor.
00:47:45
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You need somebody to edit this book for you.
00:47:48
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Create a team.
00:47:51
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Betsy's got a publisher.
00:47:51
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Yeah, I can self-publish, but
00:47:55
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ally yourself with a publisher, they can do the heavy lifting.
00:47:59
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You're the spark of this thing.
00:48:01
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Your soul is in the pages of this thing.
00:48:04
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All the distribution, all that stuff, there's people for that.
00:48:08
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And I'm kind of learning this with my own company.
00:48:10
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I can create a website.
00:48:12
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I can do all this stuff, but there's people who are really good at that.
00:48:17
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I need to get a team for my own project that will allow me to focus on
00:48:22
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the soul of it and creating that team is going to allow our dreams to take the next step to level up.
00:48:29
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Um, we can do it ourselves, but you know, we got to also respect like, you know, how much bandwidth we actually have.
00:48:36
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Um, and so, you know, instead of just letting our dreams kind of just, Oh, okay, if I can only do this or I'll eventually do this, it's like, we can,
00:48:43
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You know, there's there needs to be a bit of a handing off to, you know, like you like you've done with Pink Heart.
00:48:48
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Halcyon is just like, you know, it's like this is this can be good in somebody else's hands and I can just be the the, you know, the patriarch who kind of who kind of just enjoys enjoys enjoys the fruits of this tree that I planted that so many other people are nurturing.
00:49:06
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So, yeah.
00:49:09
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So, man, this is, I feel like we could talk forever and ever, and this is so inspiring.
00:49:16
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My brain is spinning, my heart is like inspired.
00:49:21
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I had one thing that I would love to just ask you, Betsy, which is, you know, as I saw you with all those books and
00:49:28
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You know, I know that like there's the how did you get there?
00:49:33
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You know, like what would like?
00:49:34
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But the thing that kept thinking in my mind is how many times did you have the opportunity, the voice inside you say, you know what?
00:49:44
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I think like, let's just, let's not go for that.
00:49:47
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Or there's, this is getting too hard, or I don't think people are going to like this.
00:49:51
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I mean, I know it's going to happen a thousand times the opportunity to not push forward.
Purpose and Joy in Creativity
00:49:56
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And how do you keep attached to your vision and not lose faith?
00:50:02
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That's a great question.
00:50:03
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Yeah, because doubt is a very real thing that I deal with and everyone deals with.
00:50:08
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And I think we spoke about this on a previous episode around learning how to put that inner critic, that doubting voice in the backseat.
00:50:17
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and to be able to keep going forward anyways.
00:50:21
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So I have a practice that I picked up through some of my mentors called the mind movie and holding that vision inside my mind for where I'm going.
00:50:33
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And like actually picking a very specific, very specific moment that I can see that quote unquote hasn't happened yet, but it's happening now, right?
00:50:44
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Because the universe doesn't have like a difference between the future and the past.
00:50:49
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It's like all right now.
00:50:50
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And so I keep coming back to my mind movie of seeing the impact, seeing how this journal is making a positive difference in people's lives.
00:51:00
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And that's fuel for me.
00:51:03
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those moments when I'm a little uncertain or scared that this is too much for me, or I watch, I think the question that you're asking around like, you know,
00:51:14
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do I ever doubt myself?
00:51:16
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Right.
00:51:17
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For me, it doesn't come through those questions or those voices.
00:51:20
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It comes through patterns, distraction patterns, procrastination patterns.
00:51:26
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And I can start to see when my actions are not actually showing up in devotion to what I'm here to do, what I'm here to bring through this mission that I'm on to help people to get into a deeper, more loving relationship with themselves.
00:51:40
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When I start to go like,
00:51:41
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oh, I'm going to just go clean the house or I'm just going to like go rearrange my closet or I'm going to go, you know, not do the thing that I know that I need to be doing.
00:51:52
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You know, those are those things that the more that I get into self-awareness practices and I can start to see those old patterns and then keep coming back to the mind movie, keep coming back to my why.
00:52:06
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That's fuel.
00:52:07
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The mission is fuel.
00:52:09
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My why is the driving force because I know that I am here to make a positive difference in the world with my light.
00:52:18
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I have been gifted with this beautiful system that came through me.
00:52:23
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It is a very powerful and tested process to be able to get in touch with our belief systems, to be able to ask empowering questions, to start to rewire our way of seeing ourselves and seeing the world.
00:52:35
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And it's helped me so much.
00:52:37
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And I've watched it help a lot of people.
00:52:39
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And so I want to continue to keep showing up with that mission in my heart, even though it's really hard, you know, for your, for you, Halsey, in your book, there is so many pieces inside of that book that I've never read, but I know that are gold for some people out there.
00:53:00
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There is wisdom in there that is sure to help people out there.
00:53:05
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And it's,
00:53:06
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it takes that holding the vision of knowing that it can help someone.
00:53:10
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And I'll give you a little peek into what my mind movie is.
00:53:13
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So I do this meditation where I close my eyes and I take some deep breaths and I really connect to this image.
00:53:22
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I see this woman coming up to me and she's holding the power affirmation journal to her heart.
00:53:29
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And I can feel the essence of her joy and her gratitude.
00:53:33
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And she comes up to me
00:53:35
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And she shares with me how much this journal has changed her life and it has made a big difference in her life.
00:53:40
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And she's so grateful for it.
00:53:41
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And she wants me to sign it.
00:53:45
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Love it.
00:53:45
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And it's like when I tap into that imagination of that mind movie, then I feel my whole system just...
00:53:54
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Oh, yes.
00:53:55
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Like, yes, I'm here to make a positive difference in the world.
00:53:58
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And that's like helps me get over my own personal doubts and fears and insecurities around whatever it is that's coming up.
00:54:06
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Because I'm here to make a difference.
00:54:07
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And I think we all are.
00:54:08
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And when we can let that be the inspiration.
00:54:12
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I think that that can be really helpful.
00:54:15
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So how does, how does that land?
00:54:18
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Magically powerfully.
00:54:19
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That was awesome.
00:54:21
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Thank you, Jesse.
00:54:24
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Well, I'd love to close out with some final sparks.
00:54:28
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I'll say that, that actually Yanis, would you start?
00:54:35
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I sure.
00:54:36
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I, I feel like I'm,
00:54:40
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I got a reminder a couple weeks back at this festival that I was at with a bunch of really world-class musicians who were there and got their reminder that if we...
00:54:54
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allow ourselves to become vessels for whatever energy or force wants to be expressed in our, in our reality, we're going to get super little, going to get a little woo here.
00:55:08
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That, that is almost a surefire way to,
00:55:12
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to bring like our dreams into the world.
00:55:15
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Our dreams are our dreams for a reason.
00:55:18
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And when we allow ourselves to be disliked, to be, to be played, there is like watching some of these musicians play.
00:55:26
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And I've talked to other musicians about this before and they've got, they've kind of have confirmed this, that,
00:55:33
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that music is a source, is a spirit that when they kind of just get out of the way and they're playing their violin or they're playing their piano, there's a moment where they stop and it's like, gah, like they kind of like snap, like they come back because they have been getting played by this musical spirit that is just expressing itself through their fingers or their voice.
00:55:58
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I've heard singers express the same thing.
00:55:59
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Like I'm just sharing
00:56:01
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What wants to come through?
00:56:02
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I am a vessel.
00:56:03
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And I think that's true for a lot of business projects as well, or just artistic projects.
00:56:08
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If I want to paint, it's like, what is this painting that wants to come through me?
00:56:12
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And then you just paint for however long, you know, days or weeks, or even like a mural on the side of a building, and then it just comes to completion.
00:56:19
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And it's...
00:56:20
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And when there's a release, like, okay, this is not my idea.
00:56:24
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It's what wanted to come through.
00:56:25
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And I just allowed it to come through.
00:56:28
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That to me seems to be a sure, surefire way to success because the thing, the thing wants to come through.
00:56:34
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We just have to oftentimes just get out of the way and let it, let it come through.
00:56:38
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And we get, you know, cause we have the skill acquired to, to do this at this point.
00:56:43
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So, so yeah, become a vessel, become this empty vessel, allowing, you know,
00:56:49
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these ideas, these dreams to express themselves through you.
00:56:53
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And then just kind of sit back and watch the results and don't be attached to the results.
00:56:57
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And that's usually how we get things done.
00:57:01
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Get out of the way.
00:57:02
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Get out of the way, yo.
00:57:03
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Get out of the way.
00:57:05
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Yes.
00:57:07
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Love that.
00:57:09
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I'll share.
00:57:10
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Can I jump in with my closing sparks?
00:57:12
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All right.
00:57:13
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So, you know, what's really alive for me is, you know, how,
00:57:19
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many options there are.
00:57:20
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There is an infinite amount of options, ways that we can focus our time and energy and what we want to create.
00:57:28
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And sometimes that can feel overwhelming, especially if somebody is looking for their purpose or their mission, right?
00:57:35
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It can feel like, oh, what am I here to do?
00:57:37
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My God, I could be a baker.
00:57:39
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I could be an author.
00:57:40
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I could be a doctor.
00:57:41
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Where am I putting my energy?
00:57:42
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You know, it can be a little bit intense and intimidating, but
00:57:46
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And I feel like one of the most important things to consider is to let the heart lead.
00:57:52
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I feel like our heart knows so much.
00:57:56
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When we can get out of our heads and come into our hearts and feel from that place of what brings me the most joy, how can I share my
00:58:05
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my joy, my light, my unique gifts with the world in a way that is prosperous, that is purposeful, that is helping me live my mission, right?
00:58:16
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Then I feel like that that is such an important thing to listen to.
00:58:21
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And so that's my closing spark.
00:58:22
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Let the heart lead.
00:58:25
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Boy, this has been a powerful conversation for me.
00:58:30
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I think my closing spark is,
00:58:33
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I've been really helped by the philosophy of float more, steer less.
00:58:40
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And I think that to a degree, I've leaned into that as a way to...
00:58:50
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avoid the scary aspect of putting a goal or putting you know a destination of a larger big projects and i'll just see what happens i'll just you know kind of go with the flow and see what happens but there's a possible there's a way to let the heart lead as you said and let the heart define a goal
00:59:12
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and then get the daily efforts behind that goal, and then just be unattached to the outcome.
00:59:24
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And somewhere in that recipe, I think is this beautiful ability to still be floating and paddling in the direction that your heart has already said that you need to be going.
00:59:38
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So that's my final spark, yeah.
00:59:41
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Yeah.
00:59:41
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And then I'd like to just like add a little bit onto that because it's letting the heart lead.
00:59:45
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Like where's that joyful current, right?
00:59:49
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But also listening, like I had shared before, when the heart droops, the heart is not into it.
00:59:55
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That's also listening, right?
00:59:57
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When it's time to put something to rest.
01:00:00
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if it is really causing more contraction and pain and challenge, then it's like, that's the heart also speaking and saying, Hey, is this really an alignment to what you're here to do and who you're here to be, you know, and trust, just trust that it's okay to pivot, trust that it's, it's safe to put ourselves out there.
Invitations and Listener Engagement
01:00:19
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It's safe to try something new.
01:00:23
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Well, I imagine after this conversation, people will be curious about how to get a hold of you, Betsy.
01:00:28
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So how can people contact you and what do you have to offer the world?
01:00:32
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No, thank you so much.
01:00:34
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Yeah, so I love helping people, obviously.
01:00:37
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It is my part of my mission and my joy is to really help people to get in touch with their mind, body, spirit, and they're really create tools for sustainable happiness and feeling good.
01:00:48
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And so I work with people in person doing body work, healing work, sound healing.
01:00:54
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a variety of modalities, and then also do coaching work online virtually to help people to get in touch with what their goals are, get in touch with what their Dharma is, which is essentially our purpose, our path.
01:01:06
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And then also the Power Affirmation Project is a big part of my inspiration.
01:01:11
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And so it is a system to help you to get in touch with our belief systems, whether they're limiting or empowering, and then using gratitude, affirmations, self-inquiry prompts to be able to
01:01:23
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deepen that relationship and get into greater alignment with our joy.
01:01:27
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So poweraffirmation.com.
01:01:29
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You can find some of my audio affirmations on there.
01:01:32
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You can find how to work with me.
01:01:35
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And also thinklewho.com.
01:01:37
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It goes to the same place, but thinklewho is my last name and you'll see all the modalities in there as well.
01:01:42
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So reach out, say hi, check in, love to love to connect.
01:01:45
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Fantastic.
01:01:48
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Fantastic.
01:01:49
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Um,
01:01:50
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Yeah, as far as what we, can I just say that I'm always juiced up after our conversations.
01:01:57
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I am especially fired up.
01:01:59
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Like I'm kind of sitting here chopping on a bit.
01:02:01
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Like I got moves to make.
01:02:02
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I got something to do.
01:02:04
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So I'm on fire right now.
01:02:05
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So thanks.
01:02:06
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Thanks.
01:02:06
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I'm smart.
01:02:07
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Yeah, we don't even make this public.
01:02:09
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We're just going to have this public.
01:02:11
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Exactly.
01:02:11
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Yeah.
01:02:12
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But yeah, so good stuff, my friends.
01:02:17
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And my company, as I mentioned before, is called New World Nutritionals, spelled N-U-worldnutritionals.com.
01:02:24
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And we have nutritional supplements designed to help...
01:02:29
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elevates your state of mind and helps alleviate symptoms of anxiety depression pt ptsd adhd and helps with focus learning memory uh retention and just overall it's like puts people in a really good mood it's like just really helps you kind of see your into and go about your day with a much more you know positive state of mind which uh something good for all of us so
01:02:53
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01:03:02
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Thank you.
01:03:03
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Beautiful.
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You can find a whole bunch of my stuff at johnstyn.com, J-O-H-N-S-T-Y-N, including two books, not three, two.
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And the first of which is...
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Definitely poorly edited and yet still fantastic.
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Still fantastic.
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Also links to daily gratitude circles and the morning love broadcast that I would love to have you join me.
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And I have to plug the new Stay Sparked Instagram page.
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It's Stay Sparked with no spaces spelled like it sounds.
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And please add us and comment.
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A follow, I guess is how the kids say, right?
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Follow.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And while you're taking this homework assignment of things to do online for us, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and tell a friend and we will be reading more reviews on future episodes.
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So please be kind in the reviews and you can leave your criticisms for the Instagram comments, please.
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Thank you so much.
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Yeah, because we can handle it all.
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We're willing to put ourselves out there.
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Yeah, we can handle it, but five-star reviews, please.
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Totally.
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And, you know, on that note, this podcast that you're listening to right now started with the spark of an idea.
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right what this topic was about today was like this is an expression of that right here we are almost 40 we're it's an experiment we're putting ourselves out there we're sharing so thank you guys for listening for helping us to spread the sparks for letting us know that you're enjoying it we're always open to receive any requests as well on topics so if anyone wants to reach out and let us know we are always open to hear that
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And thank you Halcyon and Yanis for always being so willing to just dive deep and be in the inspiring flow of our conversations.
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This was really insightful and sparklicious.
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Absolutely.
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There's only one thing left.
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Would you close us with an affirmation?
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I would be honored to.
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I just wrote one down based on our conversation today.
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So here we go.
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Let this one be on repeat in your mind if it resonates with you.
Conclusion and Affirmation
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I am creative, courageous, and curious.
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I am creative, courageous, and curious.
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I am creative, courageous, and curious.
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I am creative.
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I am creative.
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I am creative.
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I am courageous.
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I am courageous.
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I am courageous.
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I am curious.
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I am curious.
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I am curious.
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I am curious.
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I am staying sparked.
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I am staying sparked.
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I am staying sparked.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Let's all stay sparked out there.
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Thank you guys for listening.
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I love you.
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Stay sparked, people.