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Dating Icks, Public Shame & The Burden of 'Making Us Look Bad'

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Bruce Anthony and J. Aundrea take listeners from funny sibling banter to a deeper conversation about Black identity, respectability politics, and the pressure of living inside a collective gaze. What starts with neighbors, Jason Statham movies, and American pride turns into a real discussion about what it means to be Black in America when one person’s choices are too often treated like a reflection of everybody else.

Bruce and Jay unpack a viral bonnet-at-breakfast moment and use it to explore a bigger truth inside the Black community: the tension between solidarity and policing each other. They talk about linked fate, older generations, code switching, public shame, and the way respectability politics still shows up in everyday life. From Obama’s presidency to the burden of “making us look bad,” this episode gets honest about who gets judged, who gets protected, and why grace matters more than performance.

Then the energy shifts into a hilarious but very real conversation about dating icks and drink orders. From Moscato to lemon drops, Hennessy to scotch neat, Bruce and Jay break down the ridiculous ways people size each other up on dates and why modern dating feels like one long judgment test. It’s funny, sharp, reflective, and classic Sibling Happy Hour energy.

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Chapters:

00:00 Black Identity, Dating Icks & Cultural Double Standards 🖤🍸🤔

00:02:21 New Neighbor Gets the Bass Warning on Week One 🏠🔊😤

00:07:15 Jason Statham, Equalizer Movies & Action Logic 🎬💥😂

00:13:05 Why Action Movies Don’t Make Bruce Patriotic 🇺🇸🤔🎥

00:15:45 Olympics, Obama & What Sparks American Pride 🥇🇺🇸✨

00:22:21 “You’re Making Us Look Bad” and Bonnet Politics 🧕🏾🖤😤

00:27:40 Older Generations, Code Switching & Public Shame 👴🏾🗣️😬

00:33:00 Obama’s Rejection and Respectability Politics Failing 💔🧠⚖️

00:36:00 Public Shaming, Trauma & Internal Community Policing ⛓️😔📣

00:42:45 Poverty, Blackness & Who Gets Called “The Problem” 💸🖤⚖️

00:46:05 Linked Fate, OJ & Tensions Inside Black Solidarity 🤝🏾⚠️🧩

00:50:30 Grace Over Judgment: Calling Each Other In ❤️🫂🗣️

00:54:38 Date Night Drink Orders That Get You Judged 🍸😬📱

00:57:20 Lemon Drops, Moscato & Cocktail Date Red Flags 🍋🍷😂

00:59:55 Scotch Neat, Hennessy & What Drinks Say About You 🥃🧠👀

01:02:20 Panty Lines, Leggings & Judgment Humor Returns 😭🩲🤣

01:06:27 Stop Judging People and Start Loving Each Other 🖤✨🤝

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Introduction and Episode Overview

00:00:00
Speaker
being black in America and drink orders that are icks, we gonna get into it Let's get it.

Podcast Promotion

00:00:18
Speaker
Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is Us Listed Perspectives. I'm your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society. Join the conversation and follow us wherever you get your audio podcasts. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for our video podcasts, YouTube exclusive content, and our YouTube membership.
00:00:37
Speaker
rate review like comment share share with your friends share with your family hell even share with your enemies on today's episode is the sibling happy hour i'm here with my sis jay andrea we're gonna be dilly dad in a little bit then we're gonna be talking about being black in america and then gonna be talking about drink orders that are x on dates but that's enough of the intro let's get to the show
00:01:10
Speaker
What up, sis? What up, brother? I can't call it. I can't

Addressing Noisy Neighbors

00:01:14
Speaker
call it. Before we get into the first topic that is our love for Jason Statham and equalizing movies on top, I have a personal thing that I need to get off my chest.
00:01:27
Speaker
Oh, Lord. Okay. My neighbors got to hate me. They got to hate me. Because any minor inconvenience, I'm going to knock on the door. I am a Karen.
00:01:40
Speaker
Yeah. We all pay to live here. I'm not going to be inconvenienced in my space now. Right. So I got a new neighbor, like just moved in last week.
00:01:51
Speaker
Just moved last week. Perfect time for them to learn. Right. so frightened So yesterday I was editing stuff. So I was in in the studio and it was around this time yesterday. And all of a sudden,
00:02:07
Speaker
loud bass started coming through the walls. And there's a wall that connects where the studio is to their kitchen and then their living room.
00:02:19
Speaker
But if they're playing bass in the living room, Real bass is going to protrude and I'm going to hear it. And this building was built in like 2008. two thousand and eight So it's it's really well made. I rarely hear my neighbors. It's only when in one instance, it was the guy yelling the scream and screaming. In this other instance, this person playing loud music. So first I going to let it ride. But they were playing the yeah and the new TI song on repeat.
00:02:45
Speaker
And that's a whole lot of bass. So I said, I'm going to have to nip this in the bud because cannot have this going on. Go out there and knock on the door.
00:02:57
Speaker
Gentleman opens the door and I'm just like, hey, man, I'm your neighbor. I do a lot of recordings. I do a lot of meetings. Can't have that loud bass. I'm not saying turn down the music. I'm saying turn down the bass. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm really sorry. First thing I did was say, hey, welcome. That's the first thing. yeah OK, I was wondering, are you launching straight into the. But I wasn't. It wasn't a hey, welcome. Nice. Right. It was. Yeah.
00:03:22
Speaker
First of all, hey, welcome. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And then it was getting into it. And he was very, you know, like, hey, I'm sorry. you know, I'll turn

Challenges of Moving and Homeownership

00:03:30
Speaker
down the basement. It won't happen again. was like, appreciate it Welcome to the building. And he's like, what's your name? And I was like, oh, I don't want to get on a first name basis because if this goes left, I don't want to continue on with this. But your neighbors. Yeah.
00:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, i I mean, the neighbors before, ah was two guys that lived there. And I was just like, I would see them in the hallway every now and then. would say hello. Never knew their name. I know they lived here for at least a year.
00:03:56
Speaker
Never knew their names. Yeah, I refused to get to know my new neighbors. Oh, they already moved in? Yeah, they've been there. They've been there for about a month. And I just, I'm not going to say it. No.
00:04:07
Speaker
But it got me thinking, like, you know this because you're a homeowner. I can always up and move, right? yeah It's not so easy for you to up and move.
00:04:18
Speaker
And I'm like, if I owned a place, which is another hesitation, and the reason why I've never bought, and you got bad neighbors, You know, it's a problem. i Now I understand how people get into these disputes where like neighbors get unalived because it'd be so real in these disputes. Yeah.
00:04:37
Speaker
It'd be full fights. They going back and forth to court and suing each other, kinds stuff. Yes. that I'm very like, I try to be really considerate of my neighbors, right?
00:04:48
Speaker
You know, and I, you know, I chill. I stick to myself, whatever. But like, no, it's, it's real because if I, I can't just say, well, forget it. I'll just move to another house. I got to pack up a whole house.
00:05:00
Speaker
a whole house. And move it. I ain't doing that. ain't doing all that. And I, yeah. yeah And then where am I going? Where am I going to Where am I going to go? You got lot of The housing prices.
00:05:13
Speaker
No, the housing prices are, you know, I bought my house, Almost 10 years ago, the housing prices are not the same. and I'm not going to get this interest rate.
00:05:25
Speaker
No. That I got back then. Like, I ain't going nowhere. where We going to fight this out. Yeah. You got to sell crack to be able to own a home nowadays. Yeah. It is crazy. But it just, look, I felt bad because it's back to back weeks. I had to address both neighbors on different side of me.
00:05:44
Speaker
yeah But I haven't had no issues. Yeah. that And and it's you said it one time to both of them. It shouldn't be a problem from now on. Well, thank goodness I'm six foot four, 240 pounds. Because if I wasn't, i have a a client who has a neighbor and they're like...
00:06:03
Speaker
it's like 9 o'clock in the morning and it's a club or Dave and Buster's over there. And I had to

Love for Action Movies

00:06:09
Speaker
and i was like, oh, no. no, no, no, no no no no that no. That wouldn't work for me. We don't have handle something.
00:06:15
Speaker
Especially with so many people who work from home. Like, you really just can't do that during business hours. And then after business hours, I don't want to hear it. So it's just like, there's really nothing Put your headphones on. Seriously, like... ah They don't need to put their headphones on in their own home. The turn down the bass, and then I haven't hadn't had a problem. I'm somebody who has to turn down my bass because, you know, bass. One thing that you'll hear, you won't hear words.
00:06:45
Speaker
You'll barely hear music, but you'll hear that. You'll hear that. dodoo So it turned out a bass. And he was listening to all the jams. All of them. I thought it was city girls and up in there. I was not expecting the person who opened the door to open the door.
00:07:00
Speaker
Let's put it that way. Hey, hey, everybody to each his own. I was like, we could be friends, but we're not going to. Because you know why? I don't want the friends that I got. But anyway, ah let's talk about our first love. We teased this in the and yeah After Hours that came out on Monday. So those that watched the After Hours will know what we're about to talk about.
00:07:24
Speaker
Our love, and we've done it before. That's the reason why this is just going to be a little excerpt in this segment. Our love for Jason Statham or equalizing movies. you me and You and I both watched a Jason Statham movie this weekend.
00:07:37
Speaker
Yes. And I was just like, I love these movies. I could watch them literally all day long, every day. And then I think we need to swap. We do. Because I watched Safe. Yes. Which came out in like 2012. He still had hair.
00:07:51
Speaker
Doesn't matter. so It was still fantastic. I mean, you let let let me let me set the scene. I know I did this for you, but but but for the audience, let me set the scene, okay?
00:08:03
Speaker
First of all, Jason Statham is an ex-cop, current cage fighter. Okay? What? He was a cop.
00:08:16
Speaker
Now he's a cage fighter. Okay. Okay. But before he was a cop, apparently he was some like, ah he worked for the government and was he's always some elite kind mercenary type of spy type of whatever. So they actually hired him to to be a cop for the special task force to, like, keep an eye on the other cops or whatever. So ok then some things went down with that. They were dirty. He left and became a cage fighter.
00:08:54
Speaker
I don't know why. It doesn't matter. Okay? So then... This man, in order to protect this little girl who has the combination to a safe in her in her mind, fights the Russian mafia, the triads, and And the NYPD.
00:09:18
Speaker
Jeez. Doesn't have a scratch on him at the end. but Okay? Not a scratch. He goes against all these people and then ends up, he takes everybody down

American Pride in Films and Representation

00:09:31
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somehow.
00:09:32
Speaker
And he moves out west with the little girl to take her to a school for gifted children. And now he's got an adopted daughter because her parents are gone.
00:09:44
Speaker
Okay, so I watched, ah what was the movie? Shelter. I watched Shelter.
00:09:51
Speaker
Similar premise, it's ah it's a guy living alone, him living alone with his dog in a lighthouse on a dessert island off of Scottish Ales, right? Yeah.
00:10:04
Speaker
And he gets supplies from this uncle and niece that come in on a boat They come in on a boat and then have to take a smaller boat, a rowboat, to get to the land, drop off the supplies, hu and then leave.
00:10:20
Speaker
Because he had, I'm assuming, no contact with the outside world. He has no contact with outside world. It's just him and his dog. And he plays chess with nobody. he drinks a lot of vodka. It makes me feel like he's atoning for something. Well... As is his way. Well...
00:10:42
Speaker
I can't give you too much of the plot. But, okay of course, he sort of bonds with this little girl and has the saver. Mm-hmm. And, of course, he used to be part of the MI6 series.
00:10:57
Speaker
Of course. Special Forces. And there it is. And there it is. He was the prototype, the special the special person in that Special Forces. And then he left because they wanted him to assassinate somebody. And he was like, no, this is a good person. I'm not going assassinate him.
00:11:14
Speaker
So he, with his hacking buddy, changed his identity and decided that he wasn't going to live anywhere else. But now he's been discovered. Yeah.
00:11:24
Speaker
And he's got to fight off his old MI-16. And not only that, he's matched up with the new version of him from the MI-16. Yeah.
00:11:34
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Because he's always whatever this elite squad that is in his background. ah He's always the most elite from that elite team.
00:11:46
Speaker
squat he He'll never have no mentor that that's better than him. He'll never have He's always the top tier. And for some reason, he retires or he goes off somewhere to atone or he falls in love and decides to get out. Whatever. Okay? Goes, becomes a beekeeper. It doesn't matter. Okay? But then there is somebody he's got to avenge. Got to avenge. He always has to avenge somebody.
00:12:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not mad at him. So I was watching this documentary on Canon Films, and for anybody that was growing up in the 80s and the 90s, you remember Canon Films. They pumped out so much material. A lot of it went straight to DVD or straight to video, but they they were behind He-Man, the Masters of the Universe, Superman 4, Batman.
00:12:37
Speaker
They just would keep pumping out content. and And one of the things that they used to do, one of their flagships, was the Chuck Norris movies and those Delta Force. He was always some soldier that was fighting some communist or something.
00:12:51
Speaker
drake And as I'm watching this documentary, one of these one of the people that was in the documentary is a filmmaker and said it was these movies that made me, one, be proud to be an American, because he was fighting for the American cause. And who...
00:13:05
Speaker
because ah it resonated with me so much like filmmaking. And so I decided to become a filmmaker. And i was like, well, there's never been any movie this that made me ever be proud to be an American. And I can't identify with any of these equalizer type movies. And ladies gentlemen, and we say equalizer movies because we just put them in one category. And the top of the category is the equalizer. The actual equalizer. actual equalizer. And and i can't identify with any of that, but they just make, they're just entertaining and make me feel good because the good guy ends wins in the end.
00:13:38
Speaker
Yeah. and That's all I care about. and And for some reason, he's up against really people that should, like, are they in the business of killing.
00:13:48
Speaker
yeah You know what I'm saying? Sometimes they're up against people they used to work with. Right. Their own team. And still, they take everybody out.
00:14:01
Speaker
They take every... How in the world? who Russians, Triath, and the NYPD. And this man makes it out. ah Yeah, going to watch it. Unscathed. I'm going to watch it this weekend. But you know what's the most realistic equalizer movie?
00:14:20
Speaker
Which one? Man on Fire. You know why? Yes. Because he saves her, but he don't make it at a school don't make it he don't make it at the end. If you ain't seen Man on Fire, ah um i it came out like 20 years ago. Maybe even longer than that, because Dakota Fanon is grown woman now.
00:14:40
Speaker
Yeah, and she was a full child. yeah So like if you haven't seen... Man on Fire, I mean,

Collective Identity in the Black Community

00:14:46
Speaker
ah it came out in 2004. So years ago. Yeah, so I don't know. But anyway, yeah, he doesn't make it. That's realistic. He ended up jacked up at the end of that movie and doesn't make it.
00:15:01
Speaker
and And I'm like, yeah, that's realistic. But you don't have a movie that makes you proud to be American? I do have one. I have not movies that make me be proud to be an American? No. But there are there are things that make me proud to be an American. Like, before the hockey team was celebrated by the current president, I was ecstatic. And it' still ecstatic about the women's hockey team. Like, sometime the Olympics, oh, Kobe Bryant's redeem team. The Olympics, hands down. Hands down, the Olympics. You can't tell me nothing about America during the Olympics time.
00:15:33
Speaker
after September 11th, when the country came together, and then Obama being elected. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of things that make me proud to be an American, but there hasn't been, like, a movie.
00:15:45
Speaker
Mine are, like, movies, like, that involve the American military. So, like, one that immediately pops in my mind, Cloverfield, when that alien... I'm sorry.
00:15:58
Speaker
You never saw... Oh, it's so good. and we were... Wasn't in a scary movie? Uh, no, but I like horror films, so it might be scary to you. yeah But, like, it was just like, i mean...
00:16:14
Speaker
Our military, it was just all this shocking all the shock and awe thing where they're just bombarding this alien. And these are regular human beings who have never seen an alien monster before. and But they're still like, we're the U.S. military, baby. We're going to attack this thing that's killing people and we're going to be in the front line. Like that, i' like, yeah. Hold on. you But those are two separate things. You asked me, have I ever seen a movie that made me proud to be an American? Not have I ever seen anything that made me proud of the U.S. military. Those are two separate things.
00:16:51
Speaker
I think that i don't for me, it's both. for But I can't I don't like equating the two. Because people, when Colin Kaepernick kneeled for the national anthem, they were like, you're disrespecting the military. How? It's not the military national anthem. It's America's national anthem. So I don't like that. Here's why conflate the Okay. Because it was servicemen and women and persons that were like, no, we fight so that he has the right to kneel. Some of them.
00:17:28
Speaker
Some of them. But like by and large, like that was the, their, their thinking is like, no, we're fighting for your rights. Like that is. And so for me, it's, I, I conflate the two.
00:17:43
Speaker
Okay. It makes me proud of them. And then I'm just proud. I'm always proud of our military because they do something i am I could never. Yeah. I'm not going to. could never. and to i saw a clip.
00:17:58
Speaker
I don't know if this is real. Well, with AI nowadays, you just yeah yeah just don't know. i do not know. But it was like, it was a news program interviewing some Iranian official.
00:18:14
Speaker
And she asked him something about like, were you concerned about Trump's threats to, because I just also would like to say, Trump is at war, America is not. We did not agree to this. There's been a lot of wars that we didn't agree to that where we were. And matter of fact, I can't remember the last time that we agreed to a war. We agreed to the war on terror to After 9-11, we didn't agree to the Iraqi war. Those are two separate things. We didn't agree to Vietnam. i don't know if we agreed to Desert Storm. we really agreed on some on these wars. Yeah, that's actually very true. yeah But, like, she was asking the Syrian official, like, are you concerned that he might put boots on the ground?
00:18:58
Speaker
And this man looked straight in that camera and said, no, we're waiting for them. And see, that would have been the time I i go AWOL. What you mean? Like you ready for if we put boots on the ground.
00:19:12
Speaker
Y'all ready? i'm not. No, this is that you. No. No. What you mean? I don't know. That was the coldest thing I ever saw. I don't know if that's real or not. What I don't either say.
00:19:28
Speaker
It's a whole different ballgame when you think you are in the right religiously and you defend in your home. And those type of situations, people ain't afraid.
00:19:42
Speaker
No, they like afraid my that was the coldest answer I ever seen. And I was like, oh, yeah. And so I was watching this content creator. and She was like, yeah, that's when y'all would they would have to find me. I've i've gone AWOL. Like I've left the days. What you mean? You're like, they not afraid. We can't we can't beat them with fear.
00:20:02
Speaker
No. What you mean? You waiting. You waiting. You ready. No, I ain't going. So I always am like, man, the service persons in this country, y'all do something that I just, I don't know. I'm not going to lie. I'm scared. I ain't going to it.
00:20:20
Speaker
I would do it if I had to do it. It literally like you would have to draft me and I have to exhaust every avenue of getting out of it. I'm going give myself the gout or something.
00:20:32
Speaker
something please um but okay yeah all right this is that segment this segment is gonna come off as like I'm not proud to be an American I am just certain things make me proud to be an American and certain things make me also ashamed of being American and we are actually going to get into that next
00:21:07
Speaker
Jay, something interesting happened the other day, and it had me it had me sitting in thought for a good two hours. Wow, okay. A friend of mine, I'm not going to throw them under the bus, sent me a video. And in that video, two young sisters h was at a hotel having that breakfast, right?
00:21:28
Speaker
yeah And this older man filming them, I'm going to assume... older black man because of his voice. So I couldn't i couldn't see him.
00:21:40
Speaker
I'm going to assume older black man. Yeah. Was chastising them because they were wearing bonnets while having breakfast. Mm-hmm. And this I'm going to assume, because they didn't say, how is a white man going to talk to us like that? i'm going I'm going to assume because of his voice, these older black men, this older black men, and chastising them, saying, why are y'all coming in there with that stuff on your head? You don't see none of these white folks in here with anything on their head. They're being respectful with people coming in eating breakfast. you got us make You got us looking bad out here in front of these white folks.
00:22:18
Speaker
Now, the person that sent it to me, Two people, was in a group chat, were agreeing with him. I decided not to respond in the group chat. I thought it was a dumb conversation that I was not going to get my point across. They were not going to understand it i didn't And I didn't have the patience to try and explain it to him because I know in that instance, when I was going to explain to explain it to him, I was going to talk down to him. I just know because I was so disgusted at them agreeing with him. But it got me to a larger issue, which...
00:22:51
Speaker
It's very much present in the Black community. That's the community I'm in, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know what it's like for the Latino community or the different Asian, the different Latino communities, the different Asian communities, so forth for so on. That we are a collective and we looked at as a collective identity. And I wanted to talk about Black American existence and the critique in the Black community towards other Black people. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is not going to be a segment. where I'm going to tear down white people. I'm tearing down Black people in this one. if We're not tearing down. we're We're calling them out and calling them in. I'm tearing them down. Jay is going to call them out, call them in. I'm tearing them down. Because I'm tearing down this old old Black man that was filming him. And it got me thinking to Black America, our existence, our collective identity, our respectability politics, and the emotional tension of our linked fates.
00:23:45
Speaker
And so being Black in America often means living as part of a perceived collective. where individual behavior is read as reflective of the entire group, creating both powerful solidarity, at the same time creating painful internal judgment. And I'm going to get into the different aspects of this, but just from what I told you about this video, could you explain, please explain to the people why women white might wear bonnets out in public?
00:24:19
Speaker
Because we haven't done the hair yet. Here's the thing. I'm in a hotel. i came down in the morning to get the breakfast. I haven't gotten ready to leave the hotel yet. So my bonnet is still on. That's it. What are some other reasons why you might wear a bonnet? Maybe you don't want to get your hair wet.
00:24:36
Speaker
You might not. Yeah. Like if you wear it outside. It might be raining. don't you have an umbrella? Who wants to carry an umbrella? just Certain women can't get their hair wet because it messes up their hairdo.
00:24:47
Speaker
Yeah, but a bonnet is is ah is for protecting your hair. That is what it's for. You know what made it so interesting to me? The people that sent it to me, I've known them for a very long time.
00:25:02
Speaker
a I remember them with their corn rolls and do-rags out in public, like wasn't a win big thing.

Respectability Politics and Black Identity

00:25:09
Speaker
And they even made a point of saying, it's like wearing do-rag in public. You used to wear a do-rag in public. in public.
00:25:17
Speaker
Consistently. yeah Yeah. Because you knew that when the do-rag comes off, it's to show out. Like, I'm keep it protected to make sure that my style stays tight. Because when I need to reveal it, it needs to be...
00:25:36
Speaker
Right. Okay. That's it. These are all things for protection to protect your style. Like that is all that it it is. Like, it's not, I don't understand where there is,
00:25:54
Speaker
Like, where are these respectability politics, where this is coming from? know where it's coming I mean, I know where it's coming from. yeah and know where it's coming from. But, like, also, these are this is just a do-rag, a bonnet. Like, it's just... These are not political things, and but they're being made to be political things, and it's dumb. I i was out with a client recently.
00:26:22
Speaker
A couple of years ago, they were in town with their family. And so I went to the hotel and we had drinks and I had drinks with their family and their father, much older, was asking me, hey, when did all these much older and white, much older and white, hey, when did all these black people become Muslim? I see all these young girls wearing ah the the wrap. I said, that is, that's a bonnet.
00:26:48
Speaker
That's for their hair. That's not, That's not the same thing. That's not what you think of what it It's not hijab, no. So what do you think about this older black male calling these two young women out and recording them and then putting it on the Internet while they're just sitting there eating their breakfast? Nobody else is bothering them. Now, are people probably judging them?
00:27:11
Speaker
Probably. But nobody's bothering them. And this dude is recording them and chastising them and talking down to them. And I wish I was there to call him out.
00:27:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So there's there's a couple things at play. So one, you got to think about the generation, right?
00:27:35
Speaker
So this is likely a boomer. Yes. Likely. Yes. That type of voice. Yes. Yes. So I get where they're coming from because when they were that age, we did have to play that respectability game.
00:27:58
Speaker
We did. We had to play it in every aspect of our lives. But what we're getting to now is, no, I don't have to code switch. Right.
00:28:09
Speaker
No, I can wear my natural hair. No, I can go outside in a protective style or with a protective covering like a a bonnet or a do-rag.
00:28:20
Speaker
I can exercise what is culturally significant, important, or just a part of my life. I can show up as my full Black self. I don't have to change who I am to be more palatable to the larger society.
00:28:40
Speaker
we're getting we're going We're moving away from that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. And honestly, I want to say it it started in the 80s when people started naming their kids, you know, Raheem.
00:28:54
Speaker
You know? Jamal. Like, it started changing, I feel like, then, right? well You don't have no more Shirley's. Now with our parents, there was there's a distinct reason why our grandparents named their three kids certain names and why we have certain names.
00:29:15
Speaker
It's to be able to not make a distinction of who we are based on an application. And so that we're given the opportunity for interviews and things of that nature. And I and and i get...
00:29:29
Speaker
I still feel this is very generational. And I feel like my generation is tied to this. The millennials and older millennials are still tied to this because it was our parents that were telling us, represent yourself. Pull your pants up. Don't wear your clothes like that. Tuck shirt in, blah, blah, blah, blah because they were told that.
00:29:47
Speaker
Also us that did not do that. It was also us who did not comply whatsoever. We said we don't have to do that anymore. And any job that would discriminate against me based on what my name is, is not a place I want to work anyway. So it's like instead of us making ourselves small,
00:30:12
Speaker
We're just going to be authentic. And whatever happens, happens. But we're not going to tolerate disrespect just because we're black.
00:30:24
Speaker
So my blackness is not the problem. Right. It's never been a problem. my Me being black has never been a problem for me. Yeah. I think there's a couple of different shifts, though. I think you're right in the eighty s There was a slight shift, but I think that shift really happened in the 90s. I think when you start to get to Raheem's and stuff like that, that was really the 90s more than it was the 80s. Yeah, we were born in the 80s growing up in the 90s. Yes, yes. So there was a shift. There was is definitely a shift to Black Power, Public Enemy coming out.
00:30:55
Speaker
Two live crew fighting Supreme Court, NWA fighting to get their music out of there to not be censored. I think there was a push to that. You start seeing a shift in general in entertainment in our depictions, right? Because like before that, we were always drug dealers, yes street criminals, some type of thing. So you start seeing a little shift because now we got the Cosbys. Now we're on primetime television as these respectable families and stuff. So you start seeing the image of us start to shift. But there was a backlash from that, right?
00:31:28
Speaker
Because even though you had this representation of this Black family who had ah ah a Black father who was a doctor and a Black mother who was a lawyer, which, by the way, originally, Claire was supposed to be Dominican and Black.
00:31:42
Speaker
Or no, she was supposed to be Dominican, just like his real wife, but they changed it to her to be Black. Because Felicia Rashad could absolutely play Dominican. Yes. There was a backlash because that became such a popular show. It was like, black people done made it.
00:31:56
Speaker
And it's like, no, because this is also the same time they're starting to cut social programs, right? they're starting to cut Head Start. they're starting to cut those programs that that would teach you how to be a mechanic or whatever when you were in high school. that later like So there was also a little bit of backlash. And then it got to a point where Bill Cosby started criticizing other black people.
00:32:16
Speaker
Because, again, what generation? Right. Here's the problem, though. I am of that generation. And I would say that there are times that I don't want to admit this, but there are where I look at the younger generation and I'm just like, look, yeah this is a bad representation of yourself.
00:32:38
Speaker
Something happened though, within the last 10 years. Do you know what it was? no I realize it doesn't matter what our representation is. We had a black president that that you couldn't have asked for a better first black president than him.
00:32:55
Speaker
yeah yeah Class, personified, intelligent, elegant, Everything that we've always wanted to represent yeah in the peak and the of it yeah was represented in

Linked Fate and Collective Responsibility

00:33:10
Speaker
Barack Obama.
00:33:11
Speaker
And the rejection of that. So over the 10 years, it showed me no matter how respectable you are, certain people are going to look for anything wrong with you,
00:33:26
Speaker
Anyway, so why even try to play that game? Exactly. That's why we're saying, because the problem for them is our blackness. Yes. Hold on. But I did say, hold on. I did say we weren't going to attack white folks. White folks, we're sorry. I'm talking about a society. I didn't say I said them. I'm talking about society writ large. OK. The way we're depicted, the way that we're. The backlash from Barack Obama was basically, you know.
00:33:51
Speaker
White folks. but But some black folks, too. Some black folks, too. Yes. So, like, it's to say, like, regardless, as long as we're black...
00:34:03
Speaker
the people who don't like Black people aren't going to like us, whether we have a bonnet on or not. And nine times out of ten, the people who don't like Black people anyway don't even know what a bonnet is. They think it's a job. So they don't even...
00:34:22
Speaker
It doesn't matter because we realize we're not going to change the minds of racists by being nicer or being a whitewashing ourselves or making ourselves small. like it's real We're learning now. hammered in hell now. Yes. Yes. And so it's that i get I get it because, again, like I said, in their time,
00:34:51
Speaker
They did need to play that game, right, of respectability politics. But what they don't understand is that times, even though they still look very similar to the 60s, they have changed, right? yeah And pete we're we're we're cultivating a new identity and a new, ah well, it's not new.
00:35:13
Speaker
Black, you know, the idea of Black power, all that stuff has been around forever, but we're where it's a resurgence of it. Right? In a way of like, no, we can just be Black and and authentic and proud. And then the the second part, because there's another piece to this, is, and this is a problem in our community, this is where I'm going to call us out and call us in of using shame yeah to quote-unquote correct behavior. Because that's exactly what this meant. He was publicly shaming them.
00:35:50
Speaker
Using shame. He could have sat down with them and had a conversation where he may have learned something. They may have learned something. But no, we're going back to this idea of public shaming. And here's the thing that just like whooping your kids, sorry, black folks, but just like whooping your kids, that idea of public shaming is a remnant of enslavement.
00:36:19
Speaker
Period. It is. You are just carrying over that trauma, except you're doing it to yourself. Right. And you're doing it to your own people. And we need to stop. We can have conversations with each other. We don't have to shame each other.
00:36:36
Speaker
enter to quote unquote, acting right. Yeah. We don't need to do it. Some people out there are going to be listening and watching to this and that aren't aren't in the Black community and just saying, or I don't understand why if one person does something in your community, why you think that reflects on you. And it's because our identity is tied up into being Black. what What a lot of, we've had this discussion before with a lot of white Americans, their identity is tied up in being American. So if an American is attacked.
00:37:09
Speaker
Yeah. they feel it as a collective. But if another white person is harmed, unless there has some meaning behind it that they can get behind to say, see, I told you things like this happened to us. By and large, they're not affected. if they're They're not affected with all the mass shooters, right? Like, it...
00:37:29
Speaker
that doesn't affect their white identity because they don't identify as a group. But many Black Americans feel like their life chances are tied to what happens to other Black people.
00:37:40
Speaker
This mindset fulfills solidarity, activism, and mutual care, but it can also intensify pressure to represent the group well. So when people say you're making us look bad, it comes from a belief that one person's actions can shape how all of us are treated. And that's because historically,
00:37:59
Speaker
It absolutely has. Yes. Yeah. Like I said, respectability politics, that was necessary decades ago.
00:38:10
Speaker
That was necessary. And ah what I'm saying is it's not necessary anymore. But that's absolutely that's absolutely right. A lot of people are not going to understand what respectability politics is. So let me explain to the people out there. Respectability politics promotes the idea that proper behavior can reduce racism or earn acceptance. So for a lot of the older Black people, boomers, Gen X, as well as millennials, right? yeah It is if you act right oh and you do right, you'll gain respect and acceptance from
00:38:53
Speaker
From the white community. yeah And like I said, from my previous example, we had a president that did all of those things. yeah Before he even stepped foot in office, he was getting mad hate.
00:39:08
Speaker
So, yes. the It's something that has been done in the Black community, as you see from the description of that video that I was telling you all about, is still being done. But I'm not calling to task anybody out in public or oh causing shame to a person for the way that they act. There is a lot of YNs that I wish wouldn't act the way they do, but that's just because they scare me personally.
00:39:34
Speaker
the ah A lot of them are just actually just really good kids. and that They are. whole The whole, you know, shysty thing is just it's fashion, honestly. I think it's also, we've talked about the shystest thing before, that's the face mask, ladies and gentlemen. I think that the I would have probably wore shysty because I've learned in my older age that I'm an introvert, and I really do not crave shystest. interactions with people, typically because they turn a little weird. an interaction earlier today with somebody that I know to li that lives, that's in my building that see all the time. And I asked simple question.
00:40:12
Speaker
How are you doing today? They said, ah yeah I've got IBS. And was just like... It's the morning time. It's the morning in time. Really? No. so i would I wish I could wear a shiesty. I wear headphones.
00:40:27
Speaker
Normally, nothing's playing in them, but I wear headphones so people won't bother me. Yeah, because guess what? Black people, including young Black people, also get social anxiety. Yes.
00:40:40
Speaker
the but They also have trouble in social situations. They are also some of them neurodivergent, some of them on the spectrum. Like you do you don't know.
00:40:52
Speaker
You just automatically. But the assumption is criminal. Right. And so if you already go to see us like that, I might as well do what I want. Yeah, right.
00:41:04
Speaker
But going back to respectability politics, why it's so very, very important and why I'm having, why we're having this conversation during this segment. is because it can create internal divisions, labeling some as respectables and others as holding the race back.
00:41:21
Speaker
Prime example. This man in the video considers himself respectable. And this woman, these these two women, are holding the race back. And what this can lead to...
00:41:33
Speaker
is a reduction of empathy towards the marginalized Black community, poor, queer, justice-involved, and immigrant. And we've seen that. We've seen us that... Chris Rock has a comedy sketch that says, you know, there's a difference between Black people and the N-word.
00:41:54
Speaker
Now, yeah in the Black community, we get what he's saying. Mm-hmm. But as I'm older and I'm looking at that sketch as a whole. Right.
00:42:05
Speaker
it's crew It's creating a picture of that internal division in the black community and giving people insight into, we'll see black people feel the same way about them as I do, so I can't be wrong.
00:42:20
Speaker
Yeah. And... yeah and And you also see Black people ah not fight for SNAP benefits being stripped away because they start to believe in the propaganda where they should just get a job.
00:42:36
Speaker
it's it's So it is all of these things the people getting SNAP benefits are working. Yeah. Yeah. They're just not getting paid but a but they're not going to paid enough to eat. But yeah, it's it's demonizing. Ultimately, what is demonizing is poverty. Yeah. Which is like America's MO.
00:42:56
Speaker
And it is just a way for for black folks to join in with that. By creating that, oh, no, no, no, that isn't it. there's we deep I'm one of the good ones. And then there's the mother folks. Right. People who have cookouts in the backyard and people who have cookouts in the front yard. It's different. Like, it's, you know, and but it's... who has cookout in the front yard?
00:43:21
Speaker
I don't know. I'm going to judge that myself. Some neighbor of mine is like, well, you know, there's people who have cookouts in the backyard and some who have them in the front. And I'm like, I don't. You're being very elitist. But but yeah, is it' a lot of times when you look at all of the criteria for, quote unquote, holding the race back, right? Mm-hmm.
00:43:43
Speaker
it's It's by and large, those things are driven by poverty. it is. Those things are driven by social and political inequity. So, yeah it's just another way, again, to demonize the poor and marginalize communities. Because we see it again. You you mentioned the LGBT community. You mentioned that. Yeah. You see that. You see it there as well.
00:44:08
Speaker
It is a way to demonize otherness within our own community. Yeah. they put itta go Because there is... there is... don't know if they look at it as worth it to be seen as a monolith Like, I think it's like they, okay, we're already seen as a collective. So if we're seen as a collective, then all of us need to act right.
00:44:33
Speaker
And that means we can't look poor. We can't we can't be different in any other way. don't You can't be dirty. Can't be dirty. You can't be dirty. Always going be neat. You can't be queer. You can't be an immigrant. You got to speak English. anything Anybody in the Black community that's not adhering to, take ah do you got to wear your hair a certain way. You got to do all these things. You got to dress a certain way. You got to live in a certain place.
00:44:57
Speaker
Yeah, ah that all requires access and resources that not everybody has. And I think a lot of the pushback with things like The Cosby Show, right, was like, okay, yes, that's one picture of Black life, but it's not the only picture of Black life.
00:45:16
Speaker
Yes, some of us, ah it's it's more like good times. Yeah, a lot of us, more like good times. Yeah. Doesn't mean that good times was a bad representation of Black people. us It was an excellent representation of us and our and our courage and our ability to persevere.
00:45:36
Speaker
So, ladies and gentlemen, what we're expressing to you is how respectability politics turns into a collective collective identity. Because we're viewed as a collective identity anyway. But that because we have a linked fate, right?
00:45:51
Speaker
Yeah. We come from a certain history. So we have a collective identity. But that linked fake linked fate says that your struggle is mine, right? But respectability says your mistakes embarrass me.
00:46:04
Speaker
yeah And that's the difference. But we're holding both of them together. Not so much anymore, but yet

Solidarity Without Policing?

00:46:10
Speaker
we still do. There's the running joke on SNL where the newscasters, two black people, two white people, are looking at crimes, the headline crimes, and trying to guess who, this and they're doing judgment. I don't know if if white people do that.
00:46:24
Speaker
I know us as the black community do that. And it's the reason why people were like, how could you celebrate OJ being found not guilty? One, we more than likely think that he has something to do with it. However, we've seen so many innocent black people be railroaded by the system for us to get a victory, even if it's a a tainted victory, because technically we all think he's guilty or has some had some hand in it. He wrote a book the so called If I Did It. like If I Did It.
00:46:59
Speaker
Come on. We know. It's not. But you have to understand. First of all, nobody was celebrating. Right. Two people died. Well, what you have to understand. There was people celebrating him being found not guilty. That absolutely was a thing.
00:47:12
Speaker
OK, yeah, that's true. What you have to understand, though, is you got to look at it from the lens of black people of we already have zero trust in the system.
00:47:25
Speaker
It is broken. It does not work for us. It was never intended to work for us. Ever. Ever. It was never, ever, ever intended to work for us. It was soul is is completely intended to continue to disenfranchise us, right? So we are already looking at the criminal justice system like this is not a this is not even a real thing. This is something. Y'all making this up as you go. So you're if you're viewing it from a lens of the justice system works, right?
00:47:58
Speaker
then it doesn't make any sense that we would be like celebrating OJ's acquittal. But honestly, I feel like it was a little bit of, see, look, it is broken.
00:48:16
Speaker
i don't We told you. ah ah And now this brother's free. Why? Because he had what you need in this country. And it and what you need don't have nothing to do with skin color.
00:48:27
Speaker
It has to do with the color of that green in your pocket. As long as you got the money. Not all the time because they got Not all the time. There are fans that are egregious, but he's free, isn't he? Yeah, he's free. Yeah, yes. Not R. Kelly. R. Kelly had money. He ain't getting out. But you're right. There are certain things egregious. R. Kelly didn't have enough crossover appeal.
00:48:49
Speaker
ah There you go. Because if he was on that Epstein list, that list would have been released by now. But before we wrap up this segment, do you have any parting words? Because what we did, ladies and gentlemen, is if you're not, if you're an audience member and you're not in the Black community, this was a a snippet of of what we live with on a day-to-day basis, judging one another and being judged. even And I will even judge, even though as I'm judging, I'm like, that's not right for me to be judging. But it's so ingrained from my 45 years of living that it becomes hard to turn that off.
00:49:31
Speaker
and that's And it's historical. It's because of historical events that we do have a collective identity, which is beautiful in a lot of ways. Yes.
00:49:42
Speaker
When it becomes a situation where we feel embarrassed because of one individual or a grouping of individuals, that's where it becomes our detriment. But do you have like anything parting to say? Yeah, we need to, as a community,
00:50:00
Speaker
do a better job of calling each other out and calling each other in, of having conversations. We're not going to... kick the the The master's tools will never dismantle his house. So we are not taking tactics...
00:50:18
Speaker
That were used against us in enslavement and using it it against each other. We're not doing that. We're going to have grace and we're going to have empathy and we're gonna have compassion for each other and we're gonna sit down and have conversations because you might find that you were completely wrong about somebody.
00:50:36
Speaker
Because you also, in your mind, consider us a collective, that that person is a representation of you. They're not. They're representation of themselves. Yes, the things that happen to us in our, you know, the things that happen to us are a signal of what could happen to all of us. And we will always keep that level of vigilance.
00:50:58
Speaker
Everybody should, honestly. Everybody should. If something happens to somebody, that's a signal that it can happen to you. Like, everybody should have that level of awareness. But that's honestly where it should stop. I like, I also like walking into a space, you see another Black person, you nod, they nod, we understand. Okay? I love that. I love that about us. But we need to take that same energy and put it in to being more empathetic towards each other and recognize that this person is not a reflection of you.
00:51:32
Speaker
They are reflection of themselves. And you don't even know what their story is. You're making it up in your mind based off stereotypes and prejudice.
00:51:42
Speaker
Get yourself together. I'm going to tell one quick story and then leave everybody with this question. The quick story is I was walking with a friend of mine and his wife, and we were in a park, and we were just walking and talking, right?
00:51:58
Speaker
And in that park, coming up towards us was a Black couple. And I said, hey, how you how you doing? Kept on going. And my white friend was like, do you know them? I was like, no. He's like, why do you say hi to them? I said, that's just something that Black people do. We recognize each other and in each other's space. yeah He happened to be Jewish.
00:52:19
Speaker
White and Jewish, right? And ah he I was like, y'all don't do that, at least in the Jewish community, when you can when they're identifying factors that this person Jewish? She was like, hell no.
00:52:29
Speaker
I was like, oh okay, well, we do it in our community. But my question... goes out to my Black people out here. And this is a real question. I want everybody to truly, truly think about it. Can we keep our solidarity without turning into policing each other?
00:52:47
Speaker
It's just a question. I want to maintain our solidarity, but I want us to stop policing each other.

Judgments Based on Drink Orders

00:52:55
Speaker
The question is, can you do it?
00:53:06
Speaker
Jay, I went to a different social media site. I was on Threads. i've I've started getting on Threads, even though Threads is kind of... They kind of got these bots that is kind of... It's trying to turn into old Twitter.
00:53:19
Speaker
It's trying to. There's some bigotry and hatred and racism. I'm like, Threads is supposed to be all love. Where is this coming from? It was supposed to be... It's social media. It's never going to be all love. It's social media. yeah I don't see a lot of hate on Reddit, I know they they have their own subreddits. That's the reason why they talk amongst each other. But in this thread post,
00:53:43
Speaker
This woman posts, I went on a date this weekend and he ordered the worst cocktail possible and I'm ready to tell my story. What is a nightmare drink order for you to hear on a date?
00:53:57
Speaker
And then I went down into the comments and I got a list of drinks that they were labeling in the comments. But let me just ask you, you out on a date and the person you're on a date with orders a particular drink.
00:54:10
Speaker
Yeah. You judging them on that drink? Yeah, because let me tell you, and the data let me know. i'm i'm judging like your maybe like your social anxiety level. Right. Like if they order something chill, then I know you probably feel pretty confident.
00:54:29
Speaker
You know, we'll probably have a good conversation. If they order something strong, I'm like, oh, you you trying to build your You trying to build your dander up. Okay, I get it. You a little nervous. You know, you trying to yourself Well, who isn't nervous on a date?
00:54:48
Speaker
Me. Well, that's just because you don't be giving a damn about nothing. Yeah. Either you like me or you don't. Not everybody can live their life like that, right? Either you like me or you don't. Okay. Jesus. Like me. Come on. Okay.
00:55:02
Speaker
I will absolutely... judge a woman based on what she's drinking because that'll tell me if we truly have compatibility. Because I used to be a bartender, so I know what certain drinks are. yes And I also know how you drink certain things at certain points in your life.
00:55:20
Speaker
Yeah, yes. I'm out. And a young lady, even though I like this drink, in the privacy of my own home. See, a lot of drinks you can have in the privacy of your own home, but you can't have in public.
00:55:32
Speaker
Okay. If I'm out with a young lady, and this was on the list, and she orders a Moscato, nope, I don't want nothing to do with her. You can't have dessert wine? No, you can't have no Moscato out in public. If she orders a Long Island iced tea, which is also on this list. First of all, if you order... Look, we know somebody that loves ordering Long Island iced teas. And I done told them several times, stop doing this, okay? This is not a good look.

Personal Preferences and Societal Norms

00:56:00
Speaker
What is wrong with... Now, I will say that... A lot of people drink Moscato as their, like, entree wine, and it is a dessert wine. Like, you were supposed to have it with dessert. Ma'am, you have drank Moscato drinking Moscato. In the comfort my own home. Yes. In the comfort of my own home. I won't order it as my entree wine.
00:56:28
Speaker
it your dessert wine? Because know that's not what it's for. If I have dessert, I might. Okay. I don't typically have dessert because they always... Dessert's always cheesecake. Yeah, and cheesecake is delicious.
00:56:39
Speaker
right, All right. But what I also was going in the thread is women have certain icks when men order certain drinks. This dude told a story I can see that. Yeah, this dude told a story of he was out with a woman and he ordered a lemon drop.
00:56:58
Speaker
And the woman immediately asked the bartender and said, hey, have you ever known a man to order a lemon drop? Has one man ordered a lemon drop today? And the bartender just chuckled. And she was like, that's what I thought. And she got up and left.
00:57:12
Speaker
And there are, like, i really love a Cosmo. yeah Cosmo Martini. I have yeah never ordered one in public. yeah I love Appletinis.
00:57:25
Speaker
I will yeah never order one in public. I will drink them in the comforts of my own home. but just so I get that, but that's also ridiculous. i mean It's all ridiculous. But at the same time, if i if I am on a date with a gentleman he's like, hey, give me a Bahama Breeze. I i do.
00:57:46
Speaker
I'm like, okay, what? What? a sex on the beach a matai any of those type of drinks like what you we are not in the bahamas like what what are you doing i'm a dory sour like let me get a rum let me get a rum punch like no wait what i guess i would be like wait what I'll tell you another thing. Why? I'll tell you another thing that, and I'd be judging them. I recently went out on a date, land not recently, it was a few months ago, and a woman ordered scotch neat. Okay.
00:58:19
Speaker
And I was like,
00:58:23
Speaker
you just gonna drink scotch neat? I don't even drink scotch. I drink a lot of stuff. That's a that's a That's a woman that don't need nobody. no She's with you because she wants to be. No.
00:58:35
Speaker
Yes. But also, a good friend of mine drank a scotch, and I was like, yeah, you you that's strong, independent, don't mean no don't need no man for nothing.
00:58:47
Speaker
That also means that they are not ah open to receive vulnerability. To receive or to be vulnerable?
00:59:00
Speaker
Both, but... I don't think that's true. receive vulnerability. Let me tell you, as an independent lady, we are... don't drink scotch? We did not choose this. I don't drink scotch. There's a difference. We did not choose this, and we don't want it. We want to be soft. Like, we want to have a soft life. I'm tired of handling all my responsibilities by myself. Yeah.
00:59:29
Speaker
So I think that's just not true. I think you end up being put in a position where you have to be like the leader and then you get stuck there.
00:59:42
Speaker
can see it. and And at the end of the day, you need a scotch neat. I tell you what, i'd rather I'd rather deal with the woman that has a scotch neat because she's a woman that has her own and that's attractive to me than that woman that orders that Hennessy neat.
01:00:00
Speaker
I'm going tell you right now, You can order, a woman can order just about anything. And there's going some stuff I'm going to like, really? Like the Moscato. Really? The other, the all the flip side to that is that Hennessy. I was dating a woman one time. She was, she came to my house because, you know, I got a bar and she was like, you don't got no Hennessy. And I was like, no, don't keep that shit in my house. Yeah. That's the devil's drink. i don't have it here.
01:00:25
Speaker
You also got to understand Hennessy is also like, a i feel like it's a cultural thing also. Like, you just You grow up around people that drink Hennessy. Your first drink's probably Hennessy. And Hennessy is delicious. Yeah, and your drink is just your drink. Like, it becomes what you drink.
01:00:45
Speaker
And most times, people don't stray from that. Like, it changes as you grow up. Like, when I first started drinking as a teenager, I made screwdrivers. You know, a little vodka and orange juice. It was easy to make.
01:00:59
Speaker
You rarely could mess it up. that's what And then eventually I was like, okay, i don't deal with vodka anymore. Let's move on to something else. was then the you know And then it ends up in tequila land or wherever. Do you drink tequila? I do drink tequila.
01:01:13
Speaker
I got a bottle chilling in the fridge now. Isn't it a bottle that I left there? Nope, I just bought it. Oh, okay. I did not know that. Let me find out. My sister is tequila drinker because i I be drinking and you'll never partake.
01:01:27
Speaker
Yes, I do. You always like you want a drink and I like, yeah. And then you'll make me one. Okay. But I think it's funny because people people are just dating out here is so tough.
01:01:42
Speaker
Yeah. Because people have so many things that annoy them. Yeah. and i And I do too. like ladies it Like ladies, I understand it from a physiological standpoint.
01:01:56
Speaker
But I'm going to be real honest with you. If you're wearing leggings, I don't want to see no damn panty lines. I'm talking about the bloomer panties. I don't want to see them damn panty lines. That is that bothers me to no end. But I also know that that's the healthiest thing for a woman to do for their, you know, you know the stuff down there.
01:02:18
Speaker
And also, hey, little drolls ain't comfortable.

Closing Reflections

01:02:24
Speaker
Well, see, I hear different. so Big old drolls. here You just sit and watch some TV and some big old drolls.
01:02:32
Speaker
Eat some ice cream and drink some Moscato. And the comfort of your own home is nothing better than that. Okay, well, just don't go outside like that then. No.
01:02:44
Speaker
Leave me alone. I'm the one that's got to walk around the earth in draws that's cutting off my circulation. No, I want them big bloomers so I can be comfortable throughout my day. You know I'm turning into? I'm turning into that old man in the second segment that was yelling at the woman for wearing bonnets. Like, wear regular, wear good underwear. All I'm saying is... If you see a panty line when a woman is wearing leggings, it's one of two things. One, they're too tight.
01:03:14
Speaker
the leggings are just the wrong size. Or two, they're cheap and the material is thin. And that's why you can see it. But if they are the correct size and they're not some thin, cheap material, you shouldn't see nobody draw. All right. Well, let me let me rephrase it. Y'all women out there, stop wearing them Timu and Shein leggings and go ahead and go to Lululemon and go get some red lemons. But Ain't nobody paying minimum $75 for a pair of leggings. I'm not doing it. The same person that that was drinking scotch was like, ooh, I think these Lululemon pants would be really good for you. I was like, Lululemon pants? That's women's clothes. Like, no, they make men's clothes, too. I was like, they do?
01:03:57
Speaker
i was like, okay. I went in tried on them pants. I was like, I'm not wearing these. They look good on you. I was like, these are very revealing. yeah
01:04:08
Speaker
And they were like, oh, yeah, I can see everything. I was like, exactly. I'm not yeah wearing these. I'm going go back to my regular old joggers that I love so much. I'm not wearing these Lululemon. And then I said, what is the price on here? was like, what else do you get with the $75? It's just these pants right here?
01:04:26
Speaker
These pants is not enough. Do they do something like stop bullets? What do they do? What do they do? I don't understand. Why are they so expensive? I'll never forget that time I was at Target and that older black couple was buying drawers for her husband.
01:04:43
Speaker
And she said, $20 for some drawers. What do they do? I just stopped in the middle of the hallway it just dropped to my knees and started dying laughing. Yes, because it's like $20. wow.
01:04:57
Speaker
oh Which spent $20 on a pair of individual drawers because, yes hey, look, you don't skimp on drawers. No, you got to be comfortable. You can skimp lot of things, but not drawers. Take care your undercarriage.
01:05:11
Speaker
Jay, what do you want to tell these people out here before we get out of here? Man, look at the moisture wicking drawers. Now, those, that's good. that One, it's good for your health. Good, good, good. Good for your health and, you know, sanitary and all that. But also, you know, just keep you cool in the summertime. Sometimes. So just keep you. wearing a right now, and I'm sweating underneath these lights. My whole body is sweating underneath these lights. yeah but But, you know, just, you you know, take it. A lot of brands have, like, temperature control, all kind of stuff.
01:05:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Take care of yourself. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to leave you with this.
01:05:53
Speaker
Stop judging folks out here. I know i was just talking about judging folks for their drinks. that's Tongue in cheek, I'm making jokes. yes Even though secretly I do privately kind of do some type of judgment, but I know in the time that I'm wrong and I'm trying to correct that behavior.
01:06:10
Speaker
Yes. Do the same thing. Stop judging people out here for yeah Being Black and proud Black and wearing their hair or their clothing or jewelry or whatever they want the way they want to do, the talking the way they want to talk. Our culture is beautiful. All facets of it. I love everything about it. Even the stuff that scares me a little bit, which you shiesies out there, you shiesy looking YNs. But I know y'all are good kids. It's just whatever. it' It's trick. That's social anxiety. Or...
01:06:39
Speaker
I was rocking do-rags everywhere in the early 2000s. Now I'm thinking, what the hell was I doing? It was a trend. It was a part of the entire wardrobe.
01:06:50
Speaker
We got to stop judging each other and start loving each other. That's all I got to say. But on that note, ladies gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching.
01:07:02
Speaker
And until next time, as always, I'll holla.
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