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Trump’s IRS Deal, Mackenzie Shirilla & The NAACP’s Athlete Boycott
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On this episode, Bruce Anthony and J. Aundrea break down Trump’s controversial IRS settlement and the backlash surrounding a taxpayer-funded anti-weaponization fund that critics say could benefit January 6th defendants. They also discuss Christian extremism, political power, and how religion becomes dangerous when people try to force their beliefs into public policy.
Then the conversation shifts to the Netflix documentary reigniting debate around the Mackenzie Shirilla case. Bruce and Jay debate whether the convicted Ohio teen was railroaded by public opinion, failed by terrible parenting, or rightfully convicted based on the crash evidence.
Finally, they react to the NAACP’s “Out of Bounds” campaign urging Black athletes, fans, alumni, and donors to boycott major college programs in states accused of suppressing Black voting power. The discussion explores the economic power of Black athletes, college sports money, and whether activism through athletics can still create real political change. #podcast #Trump #MackenzieShirilla #NAACP #CollegeFootball #TrueCrime #Netflix #Politics #unsolicitedperspectives
Chapters:
00:00:00 Trump, True Crime & Athlete Activism COLLIDE 😳⚖️🏈
00:02:05 Trump’s IRS Settlement Sounds Completely INSANE 😬💰⚖️
00:05:12 January 6 Defendants Could Benefit From THIS?! 😳🇺🇸💸
00:08:18 Is America Still A Democracy Or Not? 🤔🗳️🔥
00:13:20 Christian Extremism & Iran Comparisons Get REAL 😬✝️⚠️
00:18:02 “The World Stops On Sunday” — Religious Freedom Debate 😳🙏🇺🇸
00:22:05 Netflix Reopened The Mackenzie Shirilla Debate 🚗😳⚖️
00:24:10 Her Parents Might Be The REAL Problem 😬👀💥
00:28:15 Why The Internet Keeps Ruining True Crime Cases 📱⚖️😩
00:33:02 The Defense Attorney Completely FAILED Her 😳📂💀
00:39:18 Did Mackenzie Shirilla Actually Get Railroaded? 🤔🚨⚖️
00:45:42 TikTok Detectives & Fake Internet Investigators 😩📱🔍
00:50:05 The Evidence Against Mackenzie Is HARD To Ignore 😬🚗💥
00:55:08 Why People Judge Grief Completely Wrong 😳💔🧠
00:57:20 The NAACP Wants Black Athletes To BOYCOTT Schools 😳🏈✊
01:00:05 Should Athletes Sacrifice Their Careers For Activism? 🤔🎓🔥
01:04:12 Black Athletes Have WAY More Power Than They Realize 💰🏀👀
01:08:35 Could College Sports Pressure Real Political Change? 🏈⚖️💥
01:09:42 The Jackson Family Had The MOST Creative Names Ever 😂🎤🖤
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Episode Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Today, we're talking Trump's controversial IRS settlement, the Netflix documentary Reopened the Mackenzie Shereel case, and why the NAACP wants black athletes to boycott major college programs. We're going get into it.
00:00:13
Speaker
Let's get it.
Overview of Topics: Politics, Crime, Activism
00:00:25
Speaker
Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is Unsolicited Perspectives. I am your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society. Join the conversation to follow us wherever you get your audio podcasts. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for our video podcasts, YouTube exclusive content, and a YouTube membership.
00:00:44
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Rate, review, like, comment, share. Share it with your friends, share with your family, hell, even share with your enemies. On today's episode, it's the Sibling Happy Hour. I'm here with my sis, Jay Andrea. We're going to be breaking down political power, true crime controversies, and athlete activism colliding with billion-dollar college sports.
00:01:05
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But that's enough of the intro. Let's get to the show.
Trump's IRS Settlement Controversy
00:01:16
Speaker
What up, sis? What up, brother? I can't call it. I can't call it. The world is worlding. That's what I do know. As it does and as it will. Yes.
00:01:27
Speaker
This first segment, you have not looked at the rundown. So all this is going to come as something new. So ladies gentlemen, i don't really know how this episode is going to but I never really know how they're going to go. So this is going to be just interesting and of itself. Yeah.
00:01:40
Speaker
Me not doing research ahead of time is not new. Ladies and gentlemen, it really is not new. Yeah.
00:01:49
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I speak from the heart. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm going to introduce this first thing. Okay. And it is this dude, Trump. that's That's the title of the segment. This dude, Trump. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.
00:02:04
Speaker
So the thing that fascinates me most about Trump isn't the scandals anymore, because we get those like every single day. It's how every new story somehow sounds more unbelievable than the last one.
00:02:16
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Because this story basically has everything. Taxes, lawsuit, government immunity, language, and now a taxpayer-funded composition fund that critics say January 6th defendants might be able to apply for.
00:02:28
Speaker
And then it goes, like, at some point, you got to stop asking, can this happen? And start asking, is this even actually legal? So have you heard anything about January 6ers basically getting reparations?
00:02:45
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ah No, I have not heard anything about that. But the bar is in the ninth circle of hell. And even to your point of, like, should we be asking, is this legal anymore? that Even that question, we've gone beyond that question.
00:03:07
Speaker
I think the question now is, okay, now what are we going to do about this? Like, seriously. ah Well, let me tell you what he done done
Trump's Legal Maneuvers and Weaponization Claims
00:03:15
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first. Okay. okay So Trump has an IRS settlement that includes a provision that permanently bars the IRS and the Treasury from pursuing or examining claims tied to tax research returns filed before the settlement date.
00:03:31
Speaker
And it also creates a one- $8.776 billion anti-weaponization fund that some officials say could be used by people who claim they were unfairly targeted by the government, including some January 6th offenders. So this dude, he sued his his own Justice Department.
00:03:57
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When it looked like they was to have to go to court, he settled with his own Justice Department for billion. dollars Now, the money technically does not go to him.
00:04:18
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But anybody that has been yeah weaponized, well, anybody that has been weaponized, so all of his allies, and even potentially the January 6th, and what also was part of this settlement deal is that he cannot be audited for anything before this settlement agreement.
00:04:40
Speaker
He just got to get out of jail free card. Yeah, he's been cheating on his taxes. so Like, we all know that. The fact that he would not release him. And then i think some got leaked or something. And it was like, he don't have no money. Or like, I don't know. He don't want people looking into his financial situation. And with good reason, because it's nonsense and probably full of illegal things. So, wow.
00:05:05
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Yeah, I mean... This dude, Trump, like, what won't this guy do? What won't this guy do to serve himself? But hold on. Check it out. It gets better. So CBS has also reported that the deal covers not only Trump,
00:05:22
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but also the Trump Organization and his sons, Eric and Donald Trump Jr. so He just said, to hell with Ivanka. well Well, I mean, they they cool no matter what tax penalties they got. Well, no matter what tax penalties they got, you know, Jared already made a billion dollar deal with ah with the Saudis. not he So he good, you know what I'm saying?
00:05:46
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but But remember, he had a $10 billion dollar lawsuit against his own DOJ. Yes. Mind you, the new attorney general, because Pam Bondi is gone, the new attorney general is Todd Blanche, who used to be his personal attorney.
00:06:05
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Because, of course. Right. Now, Todd Blanche recused himself, supposedly, from having direct access or process in this in this settlement.
00:06:17
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Yeah. But it's still Trump's personal lawyer. That's the attorney general. So he sued the government that he's in control over, got a settlement done.
00:06:30
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And now the taxpayers are going to have to pay anybody that feels like the government was weaponized against them.
00:06:40
Speaker
I hate this.
00:06:44
Speaker
I hate this. I hate this. I hate him. ah hate all of it. It's all one giant scam. It is all one giant grift.
00:06:59
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This entire administration and Trump is a person. He is a walking scam. He is a walking grift. this This is beyond the pale of like,
00:07:14
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what our government was supposed to be about, supposed to be for, who they were supposed to represent. he is He has weaponized the government, the whole thing that he's these's the anti-weaponization fund. No, because I guarantee you if I tried to submit for that fund saying that this government is weaponized against me as a woman,
00:07:41
Speaker
Right. With the repeal of Roe v. Wade or me as a black person with the repeal of the Voting Rights Act and affirmative action. If I say D.E.I.
00:07:52
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D.E.I. All of that. If I say, well, the government's been weaponized against me. I deserve some of this fund. I guarantee you the answer will be no. It's a guarantee.
00:08:05
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And so this is just in service of him. and if you and And obviously his organization and his sons, if anyone else benefits from it ah vis-a-vis the the January 6th rioters, okay.
00:08:22
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But really this is about him. And I feel like, honestly, if it was up to him, the deal would only cover him and the Trump Organization. That somebody else probably said, maybe his sons probably said, hey, can we get in on that pop?
00:08:38
Speaker
yeah but Right? But it's it just, this government is not a democracy anymore. I mean, it's still a democracy. It's not. It It is.
00:08:49
Speaker
No. yeah No, it is. We still vote. Well, let me tell you, the executive branch is trash. The judicial branch.
00:09:00
Speaker
Okay. The judicial branch. Right. You know what I'm trying to say. I get it. I get it. You like me. Legislative branch. Trash. So we've got the trifecta of garbage.
00:09:16
Speaker
And so if you want to say that this is still a democracy because we vote, even though they are doing their damnedest to make it incredibly difficult for
Is the U.S. Still a Democracy?
00:09:25
Speaker
us to do so. okay sure. But no, it isn't.
00:09:30
Speaker
i mean I don't know what this is now. Still by the very definition... You know how I am about words. Sure. by the very definition, it is still a democracy. we still vote. Loosely. Okay. All right.
00:09:43
Speaker
yeah Okay. I'll give you that. And this is coming from a man that lives in the state of Virginia where our... What we voted for was just overturned. not So, again...
00:09:57
Speaker
This is no longer a democracy. It is. It won't be a democracy if something fishy happened in the midterms. I'm not going to wait. I mean, we ain't got to wait that long. The fishy thing that is going to definitely happen in the midterms. It's five months away.
00:10:14
Speaker
It's not that long. The fishy thing that's definitely going to happen in the midterms. yeah I am not... gonna wait till then to say that we are no longer a democracy. I'm gonna say it now so that when the fishy thing that happens during the midterms that is definitely going to happen happens everybody be like well you know what Jonna did say this ain't no damn democracy.
00:10:38
Speaker
you seem deadly You be steadily putting your government out there. I think people know my name is Jonna. dude Well because you say it all the time so that's how they know. I don't mind that. I used to have a necklace that said John. don't know. That's fine. Well, you know, i'll be trying to keep it. That's just like my stage name. but I mean, that's my stage name too. You know, yeah detour, detour.
00:11:00
Speaker
I just interviewed and an interview will be coming up either this Tuesday or the following Tuesday. I haven't decided if we're going to have a show airing the Tuesday after Memorial Day. Cause I don't know how much people are going to be paying attention to stuff after day after Memorial Day or Memorial Day weekend. Yeah. But I just interviewed a cat that I went to high school with. He was a friend of mine and high school. And his publicist, who I work with from time to time, was like, yeah, he told me that he went to high school with you. And then told, she told him,
00:11:32
Speaker
what is essentially my stage name. And he was like, yeah oh i know i know I knew a dude named Bruce, but that wasn't his last name. And I was like, no, that's that's my stage name. That's not really my last name. You know, I can't can't be having my full government. But it ain't real hard to find out my full government is. Anyway. It's not.
00:11:49
Speaker
Speaking of the government, let's talk about the fact that they do give reparations. Mm-hmm. You just... Got to be a white man or a white woman. And an insurgent.
00:12:03
Speaker
Or an insurgent. Good Lord. Is it is it is it a rain super storm over where you're at? yeah. Yeah. it's this It's a straight up thunderstorm. You know what's crazy? I got one going on too, but I can't hear it.
00:12:16
Speaker
Well, I'm surrounded by windows. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You are surrounded by windows. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm to try and clean it up, but it you know you might just hear some rain and thunder. this Just listen. Like, this is just the quiet storm episode. Well, that's just God crying because good Lord. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:34
Speaker
All right. So honestly, actually, I think this is like if you look at like globally throughout history, what we're going through, it's terrible for us right now living in it.
00:12:49
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But if you're a supreme being looking down and watching the whole of human history, this is not somebody committing essentially tax fraud and giving reparations to domestic terrorists is not.
00:13:05
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high up on the scale of atrocities of humanity. So I don't know that it would cause, you know, rain to fall, but it's not great.
00:13:18
Speaker
don't like living through it. So speaking of the good Lord, There was some Christian event here in D.C. either last weekend or the weekend before.
00:13:33
Speaker
Big, like, revival in preparation for two hundred and fiftieth you know, celebration of the foundation of this country. Sure. the The good liars were out there. So that was the video that I sent you.
00:13:48
Speaker
Okay, yes. And even though you didn't get a chance to watch the video, it i was... I love those guys. It was everything that you expected to be yeah with...
00:14:01
Speaker
I have to be careful how I phrase this. xx Christian extremist in this country. I was having a conversation with a person the other day, and they were giving all the talking points as to the reason why...
00:14:18
Speaker
Iran doesn't need to have a nuclear weapon. And I said, okay, I mean, hey, look, I don't really think any of us should truly have a nuclear weapon. Not really. we're going to be getting rid of nuclear weapons in the Middle East, let's get rid of all of them, even the one that Israel has illegally. Let's get rid of all the nuclear weapons.
00:14:38
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ah And I said, okay, Yes, Israel is a state-sponsored terror. The regime is not the greatest. And I would love to see the regime fall.
00:14:51
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It's not to happen. Right. But I would love to see the regime fall. And I was like, but why why is it such a big deal for you, where they're just as Islamic extremists? I said, okay. Right.
00:15:04
Speaker
You're right. When they took over in 79, they absolutely... There were Iranian women who were leaders in the world of going to school and and professions, and this regime took over and just suppressed everything.
00:15:19
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yeah And I said, oh, but just to let you know, as you oppose that, we're at the beginning stages of it in this country. Huh? How do you figure? It's like, because extremist Christians are literally... Mm-hmm.
00:15:34
Speaker
trying to shut down anything that they feel opposes their version of what the Bible represents. Boy, if they could get widow ah rid of women's right to vote, they would. Yeah, they would. ah They would get rid of absolutely everything. And a lot of these people were talking about, we're a Christian nation.
00:15:55
Speaker
And okay, yeah, some of the founding fathers is Christian, but I believe everybody originally came to this country for religious freedom. That's kind of the whole thing with the Mayflower, right? People came over to this country for religious freedom. And then they're talking about... But what got realize, though, is the people that came over were extremists.
00:16:22
Speaker
o This is also true. So... But you know what? If you want to be an extremist in this country, that's your right to be an extremist in this country. Except when it starts infringing upon other people. You can believe to the utmost extreme of whatever you want to believe. Hell, I don't care what you believe.
00:16:41
Speaker
ah yeah i don't I don't really care either. yeah but i don't care about about individuals. I don't care about individuals. I care about things on a political scale. ah on a systemic scale.
00:16:54
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That's what I care about. About individual people. Baby, if you want to be racist, sexist, homophobe, I don't get... I don't care. and don't care about you as an individual.
00:17:06
Speaker
And I'm not here to try to change your mind. I don't care. What I care about is when that kind of ideology infiltrates our systems, our social systems, political systems, economic systems, housing, education, health care, all of those things. And when it's harmful and oppressive to other people, that's when I care. What you personally believe is Go to hell.
00:17:33
Speaker
That's all I have to say about that. Okay. I really think that's the way to handle things. If somebody come up to me and they say, I'm a racist, I'll just say, all right, go to hell. And then I'll just walk on and live my life. Like, it does not affect me at all. I'm going to get that little quip in. I'm going to tell you to go to hell, but I'm just going to go on about my day, pretty much.
00:17:59
Speaker
Well, the one the video that I sent you when the good liars were out there having a conversation with these people... And mind you, ladies gentlemen, I'm a Christian. I believe in the Lord. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I don't talk about it much in the show because i I don't feel it's my place to sermonize or to preach to you. right That's just not what I'm gonna do. You believe what you believe. And I don't think any less of you for believing what you believe unless you be believing some weird stuff. and But technically, it all is kind of weird.
00:18:27
Speaker
oh I think the traditions and the different like rules and things around how you worship can get a little extreme. But like the ultimately, i would say a majority of religions, if and not all are like, hey, just don't be a dick. Try to be nice to people.
00:18:49
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, even Islam. Yeah. Even Islam. But what I got from these people They want Bibles taught in a school.
00:19:01
Speaker
One person was even like, on Sunday, I want to get to the point where the world stops on Sunday. In this country, everybody is supposed to go to church no matter if they believe or not. Everybody. And i was like, oh, were you just really just talk about taking away everybody's personal freedom about anything. Yeah. It already pisses me off that Chick-fil-A ain't open on Sunday. And you want the whole world to stop?
00:19:26
Speaker
Because you only want Chick-fil-A on so Sunday. Sunday. Yeah. That's just the truth. Yeah. And a lot of the time, these are people that haven't read the Bible. They haven't read it.
00:19:38
Speaker
or Or they've read it and just don't understand it. Yeah. you know Reading comprehension is low in this country. and Reading is fundamental, y'all.
00:19:49
Speaker
It is fundamental. But, you know, so look, I'm not only here attacking Christians, I'm not only here attacking any religious group, unless you are an extremist.
00:20:01
Speaker
Then ah and is it ah is it causing harm to others or yourself? Then that's that's always the question I come back to. Are you causing harm to others or yourself? and if that And if the answer is yes, then i don't get down with what you're doing.
00:20:21
Speaker
Right. And for people out there who think that we could not end up like Iran because you're a Christian and you just don't believe that what you believe in could lead to something like that, now just look at the overturning of Roe v. Rae. Whether you believe in the abortion or not, what it did was is take away somebody's choice and right.
00:20:42
Speaker
And the overturning turning of the Voting Rights Act. And look a lot of these people out here be confronted it if if they denounce slavery and they They don't be denouncing it. So just because you have bad people in a thing that you believe in doesn't necessarily mean it is bad. However, you need to also be making sure that you check those people that are bad represent bad representation of the group that you represent. Because if you don't, yeah, in less than 50 years, we could be just like Iran. Right.
00:21:17
Speaker
Yeah. What's the what's the ah Christian equivalent of Sharia law?
00:21:24
Speaker
ah Well, I don't think they got no Christian equivalent of it. We'll make one up. The U.S. Constitution. Pretty, yeah, we'll make it up. but Before the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, is that's pretty much what it is. But speaking of stories that split people directly down the middle, Netflix
Netflix Documentary on Mackenzie Shirrilla
00:21:45
Speaker
just dropped a documentary, and it's got the internet reopening a case that they were kind of interested in. But, you know, Netflix dropped a documentary.
00:21:54
Speaker
That set the world on fire. And we're going to be talking about that next week.
00:22:08
Speaker
Jay, like I said in the last segment, Netflix just dropped a documentary. The documentary is about Mackenzie Shirrilla. Who is Mackenzie Shirrilla, ladies gentlemen? Because y'all might not have Netflix because, you know, they made it so that you can't share our accounts no more. And they also keep raising the price, it seems like, every other month. so you don't know or email right yeah So if you don't know about it, Mackenzie Shirela was a 17-year-old Ohio teen convicted of it intentionally crashing her car into a brick building in Strongsville, Ohio on July 31, 2022. She lived
00:22:41
Speaker
I said was 17 because she used to be 17. She was 17 when this happened. The crash killed her boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Donovan Flanagan. Prosecutors... Davion.
00:22:53
Speaker
Davion, excuse me. Davion Flanagan. Prosecutors argued the crash was intentional and described the relationship between Cheryl and Russo as toxic and emotional emotionally volatile. The defense argued the crash may have been an accident... She may have suffered a medical emergency before impact. The judge ultimately ruled the efforts and supported intentional murder, not reckless driving. I'm going get to the key case details, but Jay, you sent this you sent me a TikTok and was like, we need to talk about this. And I watched the TikTok and I watched the documentaries.
00:23:29
Speaker
I have thoughts about But you've watched that TikTok and watched, there's three documentaries. I didn't get to the Netflix. I watched two others. Yeah. What are your initial thoughts of this case?
00:23:42
Speaker
Whether she's guilty or innocent, that's ah that was up for the judge to decide. My takeaway from this is our parents are the worst.
00:23:54
Speaker
And you get to see, I didn't see the Killer Cases episode. I watched Mean Girl Murders. There was an episode about this on there. And then I watched the Netflix documentary. The netflix the the Mean Girl Murders don't show the parents.
00:24:12
Speaker
Netflix does. Interviews the parents and interviews her. Okay. All right. Okay. Her parents are the worst.
00:24:22
Speaker
They enabled. They created... an environment and a relationship where this child had no concept of the word no or consequences or that consequences even have anything to do with her.
00:24:45
Speaker
I don't know that she could spell the word consequences. I don't know that she's ever had them in her life. ah I attribute 100% honestly Not 100%, but a majority of of the blame, I would say you could chalk up to poor parenting, to be honest, because, like, just the way Mackenzie and her mother, frankly, and her father, too, act after the accident and during the subsequent trial, it's like it's like two people didn't die.
00:25:27
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You got to give me an example of this because in the killer cases documentary, I saw an aspect of her mother. Her father basically didn't participate in that documentary. ah And they showed a lot of the court case. They showed a lot of the proceedings in the court. So me, we're going to attack this a little bit differently. You're to talk about the parents. I'm going to talk about the case a little bit more.
00:25:49
Speaker
I did notice something about her mother. And even though they come from an affluent area, you can have money and be dumb. And it just seems like her mom wasn't that bright.
00:26:04
Speaker
You can pay for school, but you can't buy class. So that's essentially what this situation is. I'll give you a good example. Two days after the accident, a brand or modeling agency or something reached out via social media to Mackenzie saying they loved her pictures.
00:26:23
Speaker
Would you be interested in doing like a deal, a brand deal? Her mother responds because, of course, Mackenzie is in the hospital. This two days after the accident. She had a broken femur and something else. her ribs, lacerated liver, lacerated, like, she went had several surgeries. Like, she was not good physically after this accident, right? Like, obviously she was hurt. It was a very devastating accident.
00:26:51
Speaker
Her mother responds, oh, thank you so much. She'd be so excited about this opportunity. She's been trying to reach out to you guys for a while. She's currently, you know, incapacitated, but, like, she'll reach out and then mackenzie soon as she gets her phone responds oh i'm so excited this is great i i'm like and i'm like two people just died in an auto accident in which you or talking to her mother your daughter was the driver why are y'all on social media responding trying to set up brand deals
00:27:32
Speaker
Well, she was always trying to be an influencer. That was part of the the documentary in The Mean Girls, is that she had been, since she could grab a phone, she had been trying to be an influencer. So this accident,
00:27:46
Speaker
kind of brought attention, right? And so then somebody goes on Instagram page like, oh, she's really pretty. She'd be perfectly perfect for a model and then reach out. How opportunities present themselves. I'm not going to knock somebody for jumping at an opportunity that they've always been looking for just because the timing is bad.
00:28:06
Speaker
I'll give you another example. Okay. She's in jail on a call with her mom. Her mom tells her The Daily Mail just picked up the story.
00:28:17
Speaker
You've gone international. And they're celebrating that the story of her murdering two people. Well, okay, let's... Allegedly. Yeah.
00:28:29
Speaker
Well, not allegedly. She was convicted of that. Well, she was convicted, but at that time it was allegedly. Like, she's in jail. You are on a phone call with your daughter in jail charged with murdering two people.
00:28:46
Speaker
And y'all are excited because the story is in the worst periodical in all of Europe, the Daily Mail? Yeah, I don't... a Ladies gentlemen, don't ever be using sources from the Daily Mail. Not... Never It's literally a gossip rag. It's the worst.
00:29:02
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Y'all are gross! There was just no awareness at all of the gravity of the situation that you were in. Yeah, and I said...
00:29:14
Speaker
You know, one thing I got from the documentary, from the A&E documentary, because you know A&E, they just gonna give you the facts. They gonna just say, hey, this is what it is. With Netflix, Netflix, look, I love their documentaries. Their documentaries are always biased.
00:29:30
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always They always lean one way, and they they they purposely sensationalize. When it's like a true story, ain't got to sensationalize.
00:29:40
Speaker
yeah the The fact that it's just... The fact that what happened is interesting enough without you sensationalize it. And I do like the fact that Netflix, even though I haven't seen it, I heard, was giving her...
00:29:55
Speaker
and her family opportunity to speak. However, not everybody should have a microphone in their face. No, because then you got cause you got to hear from her father, who is just as clueless and tone deaf as the mother.
00:30:10
Speaker
there's a difference see There's a difference between being callous and just having blinders on. Some people literally don't care about anybody else but themselves.
00:30:25
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a And some people, lot of times they on the spectrum, can't see this stuff that's around them. They can only see what's in front of them.
00:30:38
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And so understanding that about people, because I know people personally that I've had to learn over the years to give them give them time.
00:30:49
Speaker
Yeah. Because they are on the spectrum and they just can't see outside of what's in front of them. That's a different... To me, that's different. I do not, in any way, shape, or form, believe that any of the... any of people in the Sharrilla family are on the spectrum. I don't. ok and it's And it's different. I think it's different...
00:31:15
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um I just, I think that's a different situation. It's not that people on the spectrum, like, don't care about others because that's not true. It's, it's I mean, it varies from person to person, I think. But, like, it's more of like...
00:31:35
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social awareness or, like, understanding... not not Not caring about people, but just understanding the nuances of connection and interaction with other people. Sounds like this is what you're describing them as. When I saw her mother in the courtroom, i was like, oh, she's... Mm.
00:31:57
Speaker
She's not. These are a mom and a this is a mom and a father who literally believe under any circumstances their child did no wrong.
00:32:09
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They have watched videos of their underage daughter driving and smoking weed. And the dad's like, she smokes weed. I smoke weed. It's big deal. She's underage one.
00:32:26
Speaker
Two, she is operating a motor vehicle. I mean... That's not... Okay, I get it. But also, that's just having... i mean, me and you are going to disagree on this one. Because that's his that you want to play devil's advocate, but the devil don't need no advocate. I knew you was going to say that. Ladies gentlemen, before we started this segment, I was like, this is going to be an interesting conversation because I i knew my sister did not could not predict where I was going to be going on these things. As I watch these documentaries, let's... let's... hold on. Before I get to my take, and let's give the people some important different information about the trial. One, it wasn't a jury trial, it was a bench trial. That means the judge decided the verdict. And that was the defense choice. The defense
Mackenzie Shirrilla's Trial and Sentencing
00:33:17
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can choose between a jury trial and a bench trial, and they chose a bench trial. I'm going to get into the defense. But I talked to a lawyer friend of mine, and and the lawyer said that in a lot of cases, when the defense chooses a bench trial, it's because they don't want to put their defendant on the stand. And I was like, the the defendant doesn't normally have to—the defendant doesn't have to take the stand. And they were like, yeah, but the jury is going to hold that against them if they don't take the stand.
00:33:45
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So i was like, okay, they chose a bench trial. She was charged with murder, aggravated vehicular homicide, felonious assault, drug possession, and possession of criminal tools. She got two concurrent terms for 15 years of life, so...
00:34:02
Speaker
That is not consecutive. She's not serving 30 years. She's serving 15 years for both. She's eligible for for a parole in 2037. That's a long time away. And a permanent suspension of driving privileges. She had filed an appeal which was denied. so yes she's every But she also filed another appeal that was denied because it was a day late and you had to file it within 365 days. I'm going to get into her defense.
00:34:29
Speaker
I'm going to get into that. The key evidence that was presented was security footage. The video showed the vehicle speeding directly toward a building before impact. There was a vehicle data recorder. the accelerator repeatedly was, reportedly was fully pressed. Means that she sped down this road, pressed her foot on the accelerator, and never let up.
00:34:52
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She also didn't brake. Okay? And then they brake. when they say fully pressed, they, like, okay, so the, your black box in your car is essentially what people, most people know it as. But the VDR will,
00:35:08
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spit out a percentage of how much pressure is on that accelerator pedal. It was at a hundred percent. She had it to the floor for the five seconds leading up to the crash.
00:35:22
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The prosecutors also presented text messages, a testimony describing a toxic relationship, suggesting the motive tied to an emotional conflict. Now I watched the A&E documentary that went to the court case. Mm-hmm.
00:35:35
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these These were some of my takeaways. Now, i didn't i they didn't show you every day in court all the testimony.
00:35:44
Speaker
And I was talking to my lawyer friend, and I was like, I don't understand what the motive was. If the the prosecution is saying that she purposely did this.
00:35:55
Speaker
hey Okay, so why would she purposely try to kill her boyfriend? They said, well, because... It was an emotionally toxic relationship. these These were kids that were 17. First of all, he was 20, which is weird. I know they started dating high school, but you get a certain point, bro. Well, that's that's just weird. God god rested god bless the dead.
00:36:20
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and But 17 and 20, Lord knows I was toxic up until 30. Okay, so a toxic relationship don't mean nothing. But you're saying that's what the basis is.
00:36:32
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That night, what had to have happened in order for her to do that. Now, my friend was like, they don't have to prove motive. That's what I was gonna say. They don't have to prove motive. They gotta to just say this did it. But me as a juror, even though that I'm not supposed to take that into consideration, but let's let's say me as a prosecutor, what was the motive?
00:36:54
Speaker
The motive that they had a toxic relationship, they didn't have a fight that night. There was no document of them having a fight that night. The three of them were house hopping to go and find something to get into.
00:37:07
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Mm-hmm. Nobody testified to the people that was dealing with them that night that said they got into this big drawn-out argument. The prosecution said he was probably breaking up with her and she got mad.
00:37:19
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But there's no evidence to decision to suggest that. The defense said, know, she has this medical condition. It's called POTS. Most people know this as you get up too fast from sitting down, you get a little lightheaded. Some people get that.
00:37:34
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Just every day, right? Yeah. Yes. And she's like, I don't know what happened. Couldn't she have blacked out, leaned forward, and wouldn't that make her foot be pressed directly on the pedal and no breaking whatsoever? Have you ever gone noodle?
00:37:53
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you Have you ever pressed a accelerator pedal to the floor? we're activating You're activating all the muscles in your leg. If she passed out. Depends the car. When I've driven my brother's car, you just tap it. That bad boy, go. two But the brake pedal, was she didn't tap it.
00:38:13
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It was pressed 100%. yeah So that's activating. Just press down right now. And you can feel the muscles in the top of your thigh, everything. You're activating muscles. If she were to pass out.
00:38:27
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What if you are having a seizure?
00:38:30
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That's still, it would be intermittent, right? Because you're seizing. No, if you're... This was 100 per... It was 100% for how long? For the five seconds leading up to the accident.
00:38:44
Speaker
And the point i'm trying to say is you can't have a seizure where you're locked in for five straight seconds. I don't know. I've never had a seizure before. But here's the thing. defense never submitted any medical and documentation supporting this. Well, they did submit document, imitate documentation that she had this thing. But, oh, her defense was horrible because I saw the opening statement and I was like, who is this crocodile Dundee lawyer that they said was a high powered high attorney in Ohio?
00:39:16
Speaker
Okay, so... he His opening a statement, I was like, oh, she going to jail. She going to jail. It was the worst. Look, did she do it on purpose or not? I don't know. I also saw the judge was absolutely biased. and this is when I realized that the mother wasn't all that bright.
00:39:33
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They're doing the witness impact statements before sentencing, right? Yes. So the parents of the victims go up and and they express, you know, how this has affected their family and how good the kids were.
00:39:48
Speaker
Then her mom goes up there. Mackenzie's mom goes up there. It was bad. So you saw that? Mm-hmm. Okay. Mackenzie's mom goes up It was bad because, to me, the judge. Because Mackenzie's mom is supposed to be going up there to ask for leniency of her daughter.
00:40:09
Speaker
Yes. That's what she's supposed to be doing. As she starts this... Great, not a great speaker, but I mean, hell, I can't really talk the way my tongue twisted ass beat be on these things sometimes. the The terrible defense attorney should have helped her draft that. And if he it's... the same if he didn't? Right. and but But you get up there in that moment, no matter how many times you rehearse, you're not a public speaker, you're not a great orator, you could just get tongue tied. And it didn't help when the judge starts pressing her. And the judge starts pressing her. Like, I didn't hear anything about the victim. Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:40:45
Speaker
I ain't got there yet. No, that should have been the first statement. The first thing out of my mouth would have been in in defense of my or leniency for my child. My child's going to prison for leniency for my child. The first statement would have been what has happened was horrific.
00:41:07
Speaker
It was a tragedy. And I do not believe with any. fiber of my being that my child did this intentionally.
00:41:20
Speaker
But that doesn't negate the fact that this did happen. And I am so sorry to the families. You're a writer. Yeah. But that's where it should have started. If you want to leniency for your child, lean into the fact that this did happen. Whether she did it intentionally or not, she was still the driver in this accident. Mm-hmm. She was. Okay? And toxicology came back. She was... She has some THC in her system. p
00:41:51
Speaker
But no alcohol, no psychedelics, no other drugs, okay? And you see the video of her making the turn onto the... onto the road where she ends up crashing. That was a good right-hand turn. That was one of the best. That's a textbook right-hand turn. Textbook, signal on, took it slow.
00:42:10
Speaker
So she was not driving recklessly. So something happened. Yeah, something happened, for sure. Okay. My job is to acknowledge that something happened.
00:42:23
Speaker
My child was the driver. I understand this. I know this. But what I am i'm going to say that I believe deeply is that she would never...
00:42:35
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never seek to hurt two people that she was close to.
00:42:43
Speaker
I'm not disagreeing with that. But the mom is got them blinders on, and it's, my child did nothing wrong. and and And if you believe that she had a medical emergency that caused this, you would think that your child did nothing wrong.
00:43:04
Speaker
Yeah. So I get that perspective. Look, I don't know she did or not, but watching the Mean Girls documentary was absolutely biased.
00:43:18
Speaker
Yes. Because... I the show is called Mean Girls. Yes, because it wanted to show... Mackenzie was not a nice person. Another thing that caught my attention is that they live in an affluent area. Mm-hmm.
00:43:32
Speaker
And it's something about a judge. A judge is is elected. State judges are elected. They're not appointed. Or some of them are. but But this particular judge is elected, right? Yeah.
00:43:44
Speaker
They have to answer to the public. If there's a public outcry, that may sway somebody who is an elected official.
00:43:56
Speaker
I don't know. There were plenty of people that were in support of Mackenzie and plenty of people who weren't. On that social media site because everybody was like, two people had died and she had lost her boyfriend.
00:44:11
Speaker
But then when the police start asking questions, you see it. Well, least in the A&E, you see a couple of people being like, yeah, man, she great she talked. they talk They spoke to her ex-boyfriend, which, by the way, how ex was this ex-boyfriend when she had been dating due for three years and she was 17?
00:44:28
Speaker
Right. You know what don't care about the boyfriend she had in middle school. Right. You know what saying? They're interviewing people. that she had issues with at school. And then once again, this is an affluent area.
00:44:40
Speaker
And she was a mean girl. She, they said that she would attack people and keep coming at you till you crumble. So she made a lot of enemies. And some of those enemies have parents that got bred.
00:44:53
Speaker
And I truly believe that she got a raw deal. On top of that, there have been investigations yeah into the Ohio justice system.
00:45:06
Speaker
Don't forget, Ohio is the same place where they had that with Steubenville, when them high school boys essayed the drunk girl and got away with it because they were on football team. There has been documented cases where Ohio's justice system, for better for lack of a better word, is straight trash.
00:45:25
Speaker
I don't know if McKenzie did this. What I do know is I see a railroading system when it's right in front of my face. And it didn't help that her parents ain't the brightest, and it didn't help that she had a dumbass defense attorney.
00:45:42
Speaker
But I don't like the fact that you got these TikTok influencers yeah or people that that are on social media that get these little kernels of cases and think they are investigators and start talking about it and get traction. We've seen so many situations of this. What was the... the the the young lady that drowned in a hotel water container that everybody yeah yeah everybody was just trying and they had these internet sleuths that kept watching her enter this elevator and then disappear, enter the elevator and disappear. And they they ruined this young man's life because you had these fake-ass Perry Masons out there that don't understand anything. So...
00:46:27
Speaker
When you sent me that TikTok, I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then when I started digging into it, I was like, I don't think this person should be talking about this because they don't understand everything and all the facts of the case. Her parents look bad in this. No doubt about it. But that don't mean that Mackenzie is guilty.
00:46:45
Speaker
Well, ah so i spent a good portion of my early career as an investigator of this particular thing. And I've looked at a lot of VDR data.
00:46:58
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i have looked at a lot of accident reconstructions. And there was no tampering with that vehicle. No, there wasn't. She was not under the influence.
00:47:08
Speaker
I mean, she had a little THC, but that right-hand turn let me know that she was all right. That she was okay. She was driving the speed limit. She took that turn carefully. And what you see in the security video is her traveling at what we now know to be between 95 and 100 miles an hour down that road into that building, and the brake lights never come on.
Key Evidence: Mackenzie Shirrilla's Car Crash
00:47:35
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The black box shows she never applied the brakes, that the pedal was pushed all the way down. You are activating muscles in your leg in order to do that. And not to mention the road she was traveling on in an excess of 90 miles an hour. It was not a straightaway.
00:47:55
Speaker
Yes, it was. No. That portion was a straightaway. Look at the... look at the ah Watch the Netflix documentary. oh and The Netflix documentary is... watched the A&E. The A&E gave me the reel. Okay, they showed that video. The Netflix documentary is good because they interview...
00:48:12
Speaker
people who are for and people who are against her. Like, they showed both perspectives and they didn't really take a position. Like, they interviewed her friends who were like, she would never do this.
00:48:23
Speaker
Is it one episode or is it a... a malt is is it it's one. that one okay One, yeah. Because obviously, Oh, I could do that. Because you know me, when I watch TV, I'll be pausing and then start arguing with myself. And then I'll go to the bathroom and look in the mirror and start talking to myself. It's weird, ladies and gentlemen. that That's just who I am. You know, I got a little touch of the tism.
00:48:43
Speaker
You gotta be involved. Like, I am a part of what I'm saying. So, yeah, I know that. And so when you see that, when you see for at least five seconds...
00:48:59
Speaker
up until the point of impact did that break p that that accelerator pedal was pressed 100%. hundred percent The brake was never activated.
00:49:11
Speaker
The car records like a steering wheel. Like it goes to the left, goes the right, goes back to the left. The car shifts into neutral, shifts into neutral. And the prosecutor It was probably the guys in the car trying to stop her, but it was too late.
00:49:31
Speaker
We don't know, but the fact of the matter is there was no evidence of an impairment and only evidence that she drove straight into that building.
00:49:42
Speaker
Yeah. i know I know it's not a prerequisite for conviction, but I need to know what that motive is. The motive is foreclosure is for the family. the motor The motive is for the... it The motive is not what the prosecution has to prove. They just have to prove... I know that.
00:50:00
Speaker
yeah know that. I'm just saying, for me, if I was a prosecutor, I would have to know why. Why would this person essentially try to commit suicide?
00:50:12
Speaker
She just didn't kill herself. Yeah. But essentially try to commit suicide when has no... suicidal background. Right? Only three people know what happened in that car. You're right. Only three people know. And one of them is saying they don't remember conveniently like right before it happens. Like typically you don't If like in ah in an accident that severe, amnesia can apps it can absolutely knock you back a couple hours. Like that's for sure. There are a lot of times where I have spoken to people and they do not remember what happened. They just, they felt an impact and just it was it was black, right? They don't know what happened. Some people are like, I remember leaving the house and that's all that I know of what happened that day.
00:51:07
Speaker
Hers is like, no, I remember turning onto the street and driving down the street and then i don't know. That's convenient. I mean, it is convenient. I'm not saying that she's innocent. I'm saying I think she was railroaded and she had a poor defense. And I don't want internet fake Perry Masons.
00:51:25
Speaker
And what's the other one? Matlocks. I'm dating myself, ladies and gentlemen. I know, but I can't think of any lawyer case. Well, they did just come out with a new Matlock show that's got Kathy Bates. So y'all know what I'm talking about. Or Harvey Specters. Okay, let's do that. So Harvey Specters out here talking about stuff that they don't understand.
00:51:43
Speaker
Yeah. And it's always like that's a i was more so not real. I sent that real not really from the perspective of like her guilt or innocence, but it was more about her parents. You know, her parents, ah her parents are the worst. But I don't think it's not like what I think a lot of parents are like, especially parents of only children.
00:52:06
Speaker
are dote on their only child, and it becomes difficult to discipline. You only got one, yeah right? And it becomes difficult to discipline. And not everybody's meant to be a parent.
00:52:22
Speaker
You know, not everybody's meant to be. But one of the main jobs, honestly, the only job, is to... raise your child to be a productive member of society. And part of that is knowing right from wrong. Part of that is knowing how to deal with disappointment and know. And part of that is enforcing consequences when they mess up so that they know, oh i shouldn't do this thing because there's a consequence that will come from me doing this thing.
00:52:59
Speaker
But if you grow up and there's never consequences, I remember that something, i can't remember which documentary it was, but she had gotten into it. The teachers at her school were like requesting that she be removed from their class because of her disrespectful behavior.
00:53:16
Speaker
And there was no accountability, no consequence with her parents. None. And so it's like you have created what this child has become. And because of that, now her life, I mean, 15 years is not a long time, but it's such a pivotal time that she's losing. 15 years is a long time. 15 days in prison is a long time. Well, know talking about. Yes, but in, in like relation to the 30, she could have got, right? Okay, yeah. The 30 to life that she could have got. she got 15 to life.
00:53:57
Speaker
Right, 15, she went in 17. She still has life to live after that. i Like, she can still get married, have children, settle down. If that's something that she wanted to do, I don't know. But she still has the opportunity to do that because 15 years isn't 30 years missed.
00:54:19
Speaker
It's 15. But, like, that's still... her her her She is a murderer now in the eyes of the law. In the eyes of the law. you right You ain't lying. Look, and another thing that I want to just say before we end this segment is people talking about, and then she went out to that party afterwards. it Look, don't tell people how they should grieve.
00:54:45
Speaker
Right. Don't tell people how they should grieve. You know how I grieve? I don't talk about it. People say that's not healthy. I don't talk about it. oh That's just the way I agree. Some people need to get out of the house and go be around love.
00:55:00
Speaker
Like Mitch said from Paid in Full, I just need to be around some love right now. Some people just need to be around love. If going to a party, a college party, Halloween party, was something to get her mind off of the fact that two people died in a car that she was driving,
00:55:15
Speaker
you You can't judge that because you don't want nobody judging the way that you grieve. That's all I'm saying. A lot of people is jumping on it. Look at what she did. Stop. Stop.
00:55:26
Speaker
but But you got to admit that the optics don't look great. The optics don't look great. They don't. But a lot of times optics don't look great. People do a lot of things. what A one-off? Like her, as soon as she gets just discharged from the hospital going to a concert? Okay. Like, or, you know. was the hospital. She is Gen Z child that was in the hospital for almost a month.
00:55:54
Speaker
Yeah. I need to get out. i need to be around some people. need to be around some love. Yeah. Yeah. But i think I think the culmination of like several different things that optically didn't look well, you know, a one-off we can kind of dismiss as an outlier. But when it starts to become a trend or a pattern of... What trend or pattern? She did two things.
00:56:21
Speaker
but i don't see you this segment This segment is running long. It's running long because we knew we both had some things to say about this. And, ladies jim and gentlemen, we're going to continue on in the after hours that will come out on Monday.
NAACP's Boycott Call and Athlete Activism
00:56:34
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00:56:45
Speaker
because we're tired talking about this. I'm tired of it. My blood pressure is high right now, and it I'm under these lights. I'm starting to sweat a little bit, and my mouth is getting a little frothy. So we're going to go to the last segment, and we're going to talk about Black is Beautiful.
00:57:01
Speaker
We're going to get into that next.
00:57:12
Speaker
Jay, the NAACP did something. And I don't always agree with the NAACP. However, I do agree with this. So the NAACP wants black athletes to boycott major college programs. They launched a campaign called Out of Bounds.
00:57:30
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That's cute. Encouraging Black athletes, recruits, alumni, fans, and donors to withhold support from public universities in several southern southern states. The organization says these states are rolling back Black voting power. through redistricting and voting rights changes. The campaign specifically targets the economic and cultural power of college f athletics. So what the NAACP is asking people to do for high school recruits, don't commit to the targeted schools. For college athletes, consider transferrings.
00:58:04
Speaker
Speak publicly about voting rights concerns and use their platform for activism, for fans and alumni. Stop buying tickets. Stop purchasing merc merchandise. Withhold donations and financial support and encourage athletes and supporters to back HBCUs instead.
00:58:20
Speaker
Now, what states are being targeted? The states that are trying to roll back these voting rights. It is Texas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Tennessee. The campaign focuses on states accused of weakening Black voting representation after recent redistricting battles tied to changes in the Voting Rights Act enforcement. So, Jay, as I just read that to you, are you in agreement with me that, okay, NAACP, I see you.
00:58:51
Speaker
yeah Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Okay. Tell me why. Tell me why. Don't mess with these kids' education.
00:59:05
Speaker
The kids can go to other schools. They can go to other schools. But especially for athletes, right? the The dream, not all the time, but the dream a majority of the time is to go pro, right? and the states that they are targeting, got all all the top schools are in these states.
00:59:30
Speaker
All the top football schools, yes. Yeah.
00:59:36
Speaker
You are... Using them, it feels like almost like these students would be like cannon fodder, right? For a political fight that does concern them, certainly.
00:59:55
Speaker
But I don't see why they have to be on the front lines when we as the adults should be doing that. But I think the adults are on the front lines.
01:00:09
Speaker
Okay. And I think SNCC. Think about SNCC. You know, like you go back to the 60s and it was the students. SNCC? Yeah, the students. it was it was a black student organization. Because I only know Saturday and Night on Nickelodeon. No, it was a student black organization. john Lewis was a part of the group.
01:00:33
Speaker
I don't know how you don't know about it. It was a student ah black organization that was fighting for Voting Rights Act in the 60s. And it was all college students. OK, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. Yeah. see Or pronounced SNCC. OK. Yeah. You ain't know about that. See, that's the problem with American history right there. See, here's the thing.
01:00:57
Speaker
about youth-led activist organizations like that back in the 60s. They were youth-led. Yeah, yeah. Well, um... The young are... The young, especially when it comes to anything regarding civil rights, the young have always been the change agents, right?
01:01:21
Speaker
You gotta remember, Malcolm was young. You know, Martin was young. these would be These were high school students and college students that were leading these sit-ins and protests and things like that.
01:01:37
Speaker
But it was their choice and their action. This is an organization coming in and telling them, do this. Like, your career,
01:01:51
Speaker
ah just forget about that. Right? Your dreams and aspirations about playing at Ole Miss. No, forget that. First of all if your dreams and aspirations as a black athlete was to play at Ole Miss, I got some questions.
01:02:10
Speaker
but Well, I mean, it's ah it's a top athletic school. a No, it isn't. it Recently, the football team has been good, but that's just like... All right, if he's one if you want to beat Alabama, roll tide. I don't know. yeah.
01:02:26
Speaker
Okay? But like, you you know what I'm saying? Like, I think to make it To put them on the front lines, if they had decided on their own that we as students, we are not going to commit to these top schools.
01:02:44
Speaker
I don't want to even say top schools like HBCUs aren't top schools because they are. You talking about top? Athletic. Athletic programs. Revenue generating programs. Right. Where if you did say, I'm not going to the school, you do start withholding donations and alumni dollars, all this stuff, that it would hurt the pockets of these institutions and a lot of very important people. Like, if they were saying we're not going the school,
01:03:12
Speaker
to participate, we're going to go to HBCUs, we're going to, you know, funnel our Black dollars into Black colleges, then I will be completely fine with it. But an organization telling them that this is what they should do, I don't like.
01:03:29
Speaker
I mean, I hear what you're saying, but sometimes you got to tell the youth what's kind of important and how how much power they actually have. Right. Like what what the NAACP is telling them is like, oh, you you have a lot of power. Don't think because these systems are built.
01:03:45
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To tell these kids, you got power to choose where you want to go. And then once you hear we control everything. no No, because these these schools are a business and they're making billions of dollars off of the back of you. yeah So it's great. Now you got your money up. You're getting these NIL deals. You also have a voice.
01:04:09
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You can also affect change. If you're so valuable that they're going to pay you a million dollars a year, your ah so your mouth also has value.
01:04:20
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Yes. And so... All they're doing is calling for it like, hey, look, you know, we could do this. We could do this. This how much power that you have. This is how you can affect change.
01:04:32
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You want to make a difference? This is what you could do. It's not saying you got to do it. It's saying, look, if we did this, we can affect real change. And you know what? They absolutely would. Because Shane Gillis had a hilarious comedy routine talking about how white people used to be cool.
01:04:53
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until Jackie Robinson started playing sports. Oh, the mercy. Yeah, the mercy. get yeah That's a hilarious thing. Let them go back. but Let them go back to the mercy athletes. They don't want that.
01:05:06
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no There's a reason why these these leagues that start up that are pro leagues, but they're kind of minor leagues, don't really make it because you know what good is actually. So if these athletes decide, because I think college football is made up of 65,
01:05:22
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sixty five percent Black athletes, depending on which sport. If they say, no, we're not going to go here, we're going to go to the Carolinas. Because North Carolina is not included in this. South Carolina is, but not North Carolina, right? So North Carolina, Duke, and you may be even make an exception. There's a whole bunch of Northeastern schools that are that are popular.
01:05:44
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Didn't say anything about the West Coast, right? yeah All the California schools still could go to Arizona, right? Like... Still could go to the Illinois and the Michigans. We're talking about Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, LSU, LSU hurts, Georgia. LSU hurts.
01:06:01
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Texas. Like some of these schools hurt, but some of these schools need to feel that pain because then, you know, what people don't want, people will talk all the time. Like, I don't want talk about politics. You know, keep your politics out of my sports because they want to just be entertained. You start taking away their entertainment, you start taking away their release, because that's what that's what sports is for a lot of people, is their release, right, from their day-to-day lives.
01:06:26
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You take that away from them because you just don't want certain people to vote? All right, maybe I'm racist, but I ain't that racist when you're gonna take away something that's important to me.
01:06:39
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That's when you can start to affect real change. Sure, but I'm also wondering, like, where's the through line to, from athletes, you know,
01:06:52
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not going to these schools, alumni and fans no longer spending money at these schools to legislative change. Are we just saying that it's like rich people? Money.
01:07:05
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Okay. Money, money, money, money. Because you there are there are schools down... Tuscaloosa, ain't nothing in Tuscaloosa, but Alabama. You take away the money that's generated from football.
01:07:18
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it i mean... and Oh, now the ala the school. The school. Right, right, right. Alabama University. Okay. Alabama University. You take away that revenue generating thing.
01:07:34
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m The city crumbles. A lot of times college towns are propped up because of the college. Yes. That money ain't coming in. And a lot of times these football programs are funding everything because colleges are losing money.
01:07:52
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Yeah. Funding everything. Yeah. You start taking away some of that that money. Yeah. That affects money affects political movements.
01:08:03
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Yeah. So I just, I liked it. You know, I think it's a great concept. don't think they're forcing the kids anything. It's a suggestion and it's telling the kids, Hey, look, man, you, You are not a prisoner of this system. You got a voice. And the people of the 60s used to do it.
01:08:22
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When Kareem was Lew Alcindor, he was speaking out on civil rights while he was at UCLA. Mm-hmm. Dean Smith, when he was the coach at North Carolina, brought in, I think he brought in the first Black basketball player in the ACC. Like, sometimes it is sports that really bring about change because people love their sports.
01:08:46
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They do. I know I do. I know I do, too. We were going talk about the Jacksons, how Michael Jackson is reaching towards a billion dollars, but this show is running long. But I do just want to say this.
01:08:57
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Mm-hmm. And the continuation of Black is beautiful. Black people, though we come up with some weird names.
01:09:06
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Like, for for what? For our children. I don't know that they're weird. And they're also uniquely American. Draymond? What is Draymond? Draymond. what is a draymond We need combining names. However, Joe and Catherine came up with some really unique names because a lot of people think Jackie is his real name.
01:09:28
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No. No. It is Sigmund Esco Jackson. Yeah. Tito's is, that's not his real name. ah Yes. It's Torino.
01:09:40
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That's a dope name. And his middle name, I can't even pronounce it. I think it's a drill. ah is Toriano a Daryl? e Is that Daryl?
01:09:53
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That's Daryl. With an on the front. like but That's Daryl. air rule yeah d a r y oh as Daryl. That's Daryl. With an A on the front. A Daryl.
01:10:05
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What's Jermaine's middle name? Lajuan. Look, let me tell you something. And think about it. Latoya, I think she's the first Latoya. A lot of people have said that.
01:10:18
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A lot of people have said that, that the name LaToya did not exist before LaToya Jackson. i have to do some research about that, but I have heard that, yes. Because Jalen Rose has been clearly, like, stamped as the first Jalen. And now, it's see you go in the NBA right now, it's a Jalen on every team, at least one. Yes.
01:10:40
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And boy, they are biracial. Yeah, it's a lot of biracial. Well, because Jalen is light-skinned, so maybe they thought he was biracial, but no, he was not. And let's not forget about Janet's middle name.
01:10:53
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Demita. Demita Jo. Look, now, they got kind of lazy towards Marlon, Michael, and Randy. No, they just get right actually just have miss Marlon, David, Michael Joseph, right Stephen Randall. Yeah, like just regular they just regular names. They didn't really go out of their way.
01:11:11
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But Reby's name isn't just Reby, it's Maureen. Maureen Raylette. I wasn't going you know me, I looked at that and I was like, Jay is going to, Jay is going to say that middle name. Cause I'm not going to try to say Yeah. They came up, look, black is beautiful. That's all the segment is about. Black is beautiful. NAACP telling black folks, Hey, you got power. You can affect political change. Even if you're a high school student choosing where to go to college, you 17, 18 years old. Don't think you don't have no power. It's not solely just about the choice that you of going to school.
01:11:44
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It's where you go to school and how it can in affect the entire economies of those schools and those areas. And then also, Joe and Catherine, not only did they have nine talented kids, but they was really creative with these names. No, they're all talented. There is not one that ain't talented.
01:12:04
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Come on now. Now, I love Centipede just as much as everybody else. Right. But Rebe ain't the best singer out there. No, but that song was hot, though.
01:12:16
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I don't think LaToya is either. But that song was hot, though. also don't think I love... What was Randy's single? I can't remember. I don't know. All of them.
01:12:31
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I don't know.
01:12:33
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Well, I enjoy all of their names and the music. Yes. And so that's all I'm going to go with. yeah But, Jay, before we get out of here, what do you want to tell the people?
01:12:47
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If people really believe that they're superior, they don't need to put their foot on other people's necks. So think about that. Why are people working so hard to oppress you if not for the fact that you're powerful?
01:13:04
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You're right. And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching. And until next time, as always, I'll holler.
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