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In Episode 308 of Unsolicited Perspectives, Bruce Anthony and Jay Aundrea dive into one of their most layered Sibling Happy Hour conversations yet. What starts with the reported scandal surrounding Kristi Noem’s husband quickly turns into a deeper conversation about repression, hypocrisy, political branding, and what happens when public morality crashes into private reality.
Then Bruce and Jay shift to the growing controversy around Chili from TLC and the fallout surrounding Jaden Ivey, unpacking the difference between standing on what you believe and hiding behind excuses when the receipts start piling up. Along the way, they dig into selective Christianity, anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, celebrity fan betrayal, and the tension between public image and private truth.
But here’s where the episode really lands: a Ryan Davis quote about beauty standards sparks a brutally honest conversation about attraction, pretty privilege, dating, self-image, and the uncomfortable ways people let looks decide how much disrespect they’ll tolerate. #KristiNoem #Chili #TLC #JadenIvey #MAGA #Politics #CelebrityNews #PrettyPrivilege #DatingStandards #LGBTQ #Podcast #unsolicitedperspectives
Chapters:
00:00 Unique Lifestyles, Bigotry & Attraction 🤔🔥👀
00:47 Politician Scandal, NBA Drama & A Quote That Hits 🎤🏀👀
02:08 Kristi Noem’s Husband Scandal Raises Bigger Questions 👀🎭🔥
03:41 Daily Mail Or Real Story? The Tabloid Problem Starts Here 📰🤔⚠️
07:50 Privacy, Power, And Political Hypocrisy Collide Fast ⚖️👀💥
12:31 Suppressing Yourself Can Turn Into Resentment And Hate 😬🧠💔
19:19 Stop Hiding Your Beliefs Just To Avoid Judgment 🎯🗣️⚡
22:28 Chili From TLC Caught In MAGA Allegations Storm 🎤👀🚨
24:55 Benefit Of The Doubt Dies Once The Receipts Show Up 🧾😬🔥
27:19 “I Didn’t Know” Falls Apart Under MAGA Branding Logic 🤨📲❌
29:19 A Pattern Of Likes, Reposts, And Excuses Tells All 📱🧠👀
31:00 Touring While Backpedaling Makes The Whole Thing Worse 🎶💸😮💨
34:14 Jayden Ivey Gets Cut After Loud Anti-LGBTQ Rants 🏀📉🚨
38:35 Bruce Opens Leviticus And Calls Out Selective Christianity 📖🔥⛪
49:46 Chili Lied, Ivey Didn’t — And That Contrast Is Wild 🤯🎭⚡
58:11 Ryan Davis Drops A Truth Bomb About Beauty Standards 💯👀🔥
01:00:01 Bruce Admits How Attractiveness Changed His Behavior 😬🪞💔
01:03:39 You Can’t Love Someone In Pieces And Call It Real 🧩💭💥
01:09:39 Character Has To Matter More Than Looks In The End 🧠❤️🏁
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Transcript
Introduction to Unsolicited Perspectives
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unique lifestyles, bigotry, and attractiveness. We gonna get into it. Let's get it.
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Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is Unsolicited Perspectives. I am your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society.
New Segment: Sibling Happy Hour
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Rate, review, like, comment, share. Share with your friends, share with your family, hell, even share with your enemies. On today's episode, it's the Sibling Happy Hour. I'm here with my sis, Jay Andrea. We're going to be talking about a politician's husband. Then we're going to talking about an NBA player. And then we're going talking about a comedian doing an interesting quote.
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But that's enough of the intro.
Kristi Noem Controversy and Digital Leaks
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Let's get to the show.
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What up, sis? What up, brother? I can't call it. I can't call it. ah You sent me something earlier today that you just were tickled by. ah wouldn't say tickle.
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um mean a little bit. Now, for those people that that don't know what I'm talking about, the Daily Mail came out with an article, and and and this is something that just threw in an episode, so I'm not fully, fully prepared.
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But the Daily Mail, released at Kristi Noem's husband, basically likes to do—it's thing— That all of a sudden, my internet doesn't want to work.
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It's basically cross-dressing, but it it has a specific name that's attached to it. He likes to... Bimbification is what it is. He likes to do bimbification scenes. He's basically giving himself like inflated breasts. So he was chatting online with fetish models, sending pictures back and forth. This is what's been reported by the Daily Mail.
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Now, I saw pictures. Yes, there were pictures that was out there. Yes. So basically, it's Byron Noem, Christy Noem's husband, reports claim that Byron has a secret online presence involving, as you said, cross-dressing and fetish-related content, private messaging with online personalities, and reportedly sending significant amounts of money to individuals connected to that activity. Some of this is based on leaked images and message exchanges that began circulating publicly. First of all, y'all, you gonna get caught. It's gonna leak.
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So don't do anything that you don't want leaked. In 2026,
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If you capture anything digitally, it's going get
Political Implications of Personal Activities
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leaked. Period. Like just just like how if you outside just assume you're being recorded because you probably are, either with surveillance cameras or somebody's phone or something, you should also just assume that if you do capture anything digitally, it's going to get leaked.
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It just will. ah So please, i please be cautious. I hear all that. Let me put my journalism hat on. It's the Daily Mail. It's a tabloid.
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OK, this is not Newsweek or New York Times. And and actually, Newsweek and New York Times are reporting from the Daily Mail, but they're still sourcing it as this is tabloids. Now, they did reach out to him.
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And his quote was something like, hey, I'm i'm not going to respond to this now. I will respond to it later. Something like, keep us in your prayers. Kristi Noem responded with the family was blindsided by this and they asked for privacy and prayers at this time.
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The responses and the quote leads me to believe that this is true. Also, the administrative administration might have known that this was going to come out, and it was not the deaths that happened in Minneapolis that got her removed from ICE, but actually this.
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Because MAGA does not want something like this. This would fall under... ah i don't I don't know if it would even fall under the LGBTQ plus community. Because I don't know...
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queer i could i I could characterize it like that. Okay. For sure. I mean, if if you are dabbling in gender fluidity,
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then... Which is essentially cross-dressing. That's gender. So, yes. And MAGA is completely against anything that has to do with the LGBTQ plus community. So, I could see that she was removed because this was about
Private Lives of Public Figures
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to leak. Because she was just removed maybe like one or two weeks ago, if I remember correctly. fromra As Homeland Security Chief? Yeah. Yes. She was... Well, it was well was earlier yeah earlier this month.
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i mean Well, last month, because now we're in April. But yeah, so, like, they get before the Daily Mail would drop this they would reach out. They would reach out for quotes and everything before they dropped this article, which meant oh yeah, because they'd give them... that I just assumed Daily Mail is just like a tabloid. I honestly don't know anything about their business or journalistic practices, but traditionally with a tabloid, they give you opportunity to kind of pay them off.
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you know, to either slow it down or to or to squash it. But the the photos were sold to the Daily Mail, and that's why they... you know, led with the story, but it's in the New York Times. I mean, they're, again, they're not commenting. a Well, it's like the, it's what you said. I mean, he basically was texted the New York Times back after they requested interviews and was like, ah as far as like his response to interview requests, he said, I will at some point, today is not the day. I appreciate your heart. Like, so, you know,
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I don't know how long the Daily Mail had this. If they did contact the administration, if that is the real reason why Kristi Noem was fired, I don't know.
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but it is a British tabloid. It's not quite TMZ. TMZ has some, TMZ has journalistic integrity they very rarely do they very rarely do they post stories or run stories that they had to retract because they weren't true yeah daily mail has had a history of not not a large percentage but coming out with some fabricated type stories this could be another one of those fabricated type stories however the gnomes responses to this
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yeah leads me to believe that even if it is embellished a little bit, there's a lot of truth in this. But yeah we're just speculating. We don't have no sources.
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I mean, truly, like, on its own, this is a private matter between her and her husband, right? Mm-hmm. But because of Kristi Noem's public profile and her political positioning, it adds a different dimension to it. So so two things. one her political identity, right, includes really strong stances on social issues. Right.
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And so these allegations are like a contradiction, right? Because some of the things that you rail against are occurring in your own home. Whether she knew about it or not, which I seriously doubt she did.
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maybe she did. I don't know. i seriously thought she did. I don't know. Don't know. Okay. And then it's like, okay, it also kind of raises concern, like security concerns, right? Like,
Chili from TLC and Political Affiliations
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is this, were they blackmailed? Is there a, co you know, a coercion risk? You know, so it's a lot of, a lot of stuff. But like you said, their response, her being, quote, devastated, quote, caught off guard,
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It leads me to... They not... my Like, my mind would immediately go to us AI. Like, that's what I would have said. So they did... They went to... I guess they're from one of the Dakotas, if I remember correctly.
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And they went to the people... South Dakota. South Dakota, yeah. So they went to South Dakota and they asked the people, showed them pictures. They was like, that's ah AI. That's not real. i right and And then they were like, that's just not the person. I didn't think that he would be in that stuff. And yeah...
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That person would keep that closeted because of the judgment from other people. For this man, I hope that this can open up his ability to be himself.
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Yes, because I'm never knocking anybody. As long as you're not hurting yourself or others. Do you you? know, do you? Also, also, reckless speculation. And I've done that a couple times already.
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me do it again. There was a rumor that Christy Noem was having an affair with her next in line, with her right-hand man and in the in in the administration, right?
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Mm-hmm. Could it have been that she knew this is who her husband was? And she was like, well, you're going to do your thing. I'm going to my thing. I'm just saying, recklessly speculating.
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Could be because like, where did he hide the fake boobies?
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I, look, don't have no fake boobies. You what saying? But if I did... Because i they were quite large. Yes, they were Dolly Parton-esque. Yeah, so it's like, where were those?
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Yeah. That you didn't know that they exist, but you never know. You never know. You never know. don't know. Look, had ah what do I have to say about this? Hey, brother, just be who you are. Yeah.
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That's all I say. Be who you are. yeah But it's not... I feel like it's a good example about this kind of intersection of, like, privacy, right?
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Power, and then also perception. Mm-hmm. Right. So it's like.
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The but the public really decides, like. How to interpret what's going on, like, it's like you said, the New York Times article, they were like, hey, it's AI. That's not the guy we know, like the public will make their own determinations about like how to interpret this. But I think.
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the The level of transparency we need, especially for people who are the loudest in the room
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and are in positions of power.
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I mean, if you choose to get into a position of power where you have influence over the daily lives of the general public, we should...
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be able to securely say that you practice what you preach. You know the rumors always are. And your tax returns are not enough. Yeah, you know the rumors always are.
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Is that anytime there's a Republican. Whoever smelt it, dealt it. Okay. No, I was going to be a little bit. Typically the rumors are anytime there's a Republican convention or something, the bunch of Republicans get in one ah area, Grindr, which is the gay dating app, blows up.
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And that, you know, i feel like this is a common story in this regard.
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When society deems this is normal, this is not normal.
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right Right or wrong. Society deeming these things. If you fall along those lines is what society deems as wrong, you You naturally say, well, if everybody believes this is wrong, I'm not going to do it, which is suppressing who you are.
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And in suppressing who you are, your actions or whatever, people. develops Because you hate who you are. So a lot of people... And you resent not being able to express yourself authentically. i think I think those people resent subconsciously. I don't think they consciously resent the fact that they
Authenticity Versus Public Perception
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can't be who they want to be because I think that they don't want to be who they are.
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No, I think inherently you want to be your authentic self. But when you feel like it's not safe or acceptable and you have to hide that part of yourself, when you do see people living authentically, you resent it.
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Yes, ah but I also believe that there are some people out there
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And it doesn't have to be sexuality. It could be race, it could be religion, make can it could be anything. that that Yeah, self-hate is real. Yeah, that wish they weren't what they were. i i Look, I don't know, I'm not gonna call nobody out personally, because it's been a long time since I've been directly faced with this. But I know from just living my life that there have been Black people who are like, man, I wish I wasn't born Black.
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And that has always been crazy to me because I wouldn't want to be anything else. Yeah, because what you're doing is you're a assigning the problem to Blackness. Blackness is not the problem. It's never been the problem. The problem is racism. Right. But i know i know ah women who are like, man, I wish I was born a guy. Life would have been so much easier. And they're right.
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Right? Like, life yeah would have been easier if you were a guy. But you are uniquely special because you are a woman and you can be the greatest person that you are in this patriarchal society. So... yeah But I know people who self-hate. And and yeah it seemed like from the Daily Mail article that that he would be engaged in these conversations with these fetish models and then would be like, I love my wife and family, and then would ghost for a while and then come back.
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Yeah. From the Daily Mail, which is a child lawyer. I'm sure there's a lot of guilt. I'm sure there's a lot of shame. I'm sure there's all of that. that this person is facing allegedly.
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Allegedly. Allegedly. And it's real easy for me to stand up on my soapbox and tell people, hey, just be who you want to be. Be who you are. When in essence, I didn't even become who I wanted to be until I was close to 40 years old.
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Right. I didn't become who I was. It's just now getting good. What the hell did you just say? Like, it's just now getting good. Like, I know who I am. I thought you said that I'm just now getting good. Like, Bruce is just now getting good because he wasn't shit before. I'm talking about being in their 40s. It's just now getting good. Like, I...
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I feel like myself authentically. i feel, yeah. But that's us personally. I know of people who who who were always themselves. They didn't need to suppress anything or felt the need to suppress anything or was suppressing anything subconsciously, right? Yeah.
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I'm an artist. i That's what I love to do. i love to be an artist. I wish, I wish I really pursued theater in high school.
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Couldn't. then Could have. Could have if I considered myself the maverick that I'll always say that I am. Yeah. Could have, but it would have been looked upon as, what's a delicate way of saying this?
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um not the most masculine thing to do. Yeah. And in 90s high school, ah it could have been social suicide. Like there was, it was very much, ah you know, you had the athletes and, you know, slash jocks, the theater kids, the nerds, the this, the, like it was that kind of hierarchical structure. If anybody's seen Clueless, you know what high school was like in the 90s. It was difficult. i did a I did a play in my freshman year, and I didn't pursue ah theater after that, even though I really enjoyed it because of what I thought my friends would say. yeah And so, yeah, everybody knows being young sucks.
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And it doesn't matter how much, because my boys would always say, and these are my boys from high school, they would say, you always do to the opposite of everybody else. If everybody else is doing this, you're going to do that. And I would be like, not all the time, because there's a lot of times that I went with the crowd.
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yeah And I didn't fight that current. I pick and chose my battles, but I pick and chose my battles to the detriment of who I could have been. I could have been Michael B. Jordan. Maybe. Could have. Maybe. you know what I'm saying? and And I didn't pursue that.
Generational Shifts in Identity and Norms
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Yeah. And i mean, I could still pursue it now, but I mean, who what 45-year-old person starts acting and then... Plenty. the The great thing about acting is you're playing human beings, so your age doesn't matter. This is true. yeah but But what I'm just trying to say is is that It's really cool when you become authentically yourself. And there are people listening and watching this and knowing, you know, you know, you know, you not live in authentically you. You know it. You know that you are trying to keep up with the Joneses or don't want to be perceived a certain way or don't want to be looked at a certain way. Even those MAGA Republicans who are being quiet but still voting for MAGA because I don't want to be judged. No, not no, no, no. no no no no
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Be who you are. If that's who you are, be loud and proud about it because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, the day going to end. Period. And you might as well be 10 toes down on who you are. in your hear And if you're worried about backlash because, you know, you support MAGA and I don't want people to know because I i don't want to have to face it.
00:19:56
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OK, well, then think about your choice. Because honestly, like, but I don't know. I can't think of anything off the top of it. I like soccer. I like football, right?
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If somebody told me soccer sucks, I'm willing to go to bat with you about how good soccer is. Like, it doesn't matter if I get pushback.
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This is something that I believe. Right? And so I'm going to be 10 toes down. Like, just an example. like So if you're afraid of the backlash of your political decisions, or for example, then maybe you need to think about, is this really what I believe if I'm not willing to defend it if I have to?
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You know, it's funny that you bring that up. Because in the next segment, we're We're going to talk about two contrasting people that contrasting in the way they are handling the pushback on their conservative values. And we're going get into that next.
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Jay. Yeah.
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What are some of your favorite musical groups from the 90s? From the 90s? Oh, man. SWV? Mm-hmm. Come on now. ah Mary J. Blige? Okay. Did I say group? I meant to say group, but just... Oh, you said group? I don't know if I said group. I said acts, but go ahead.
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SWV, we're talking about groups. SWV for sure. Jodeci. There's a laundry list. Yes. One of the things that technology has done has given us more insight into our entertainers, celebrities, those artists that we love so much. And the more access we had to their personal life, the more heartbreaking it becomes.
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Because we find out information that is just like, oh, I got a question whether I can still listen or watch what you've created because the person you are so horrible.
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Yes. Why am I bringing all this up? It has recently come out, but it's been trickling since 2017 that Chili from TLC is MAGA. Rosandra Thomas.
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She MAGA. Okay, so I did see this story. Mm-hmm. Okay. i'mmanna let you I'm gonna let you talk about Rosanda.
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did you yeah And then I'm gonna talk about it. Okay, so a couple of things. When I first heard about this, i was like, gotta do a little bit more research because it was in the sphere of social media.
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And she was starting to get barraged. And I was like, all right, okay. Before everybody jumps on the bandwagon here, how true is this? Right. She has made contributions to the Republican Party, Make America Great.
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Mm-hmm. She follows certain people. But, you know, sometimes you follow people to get information. You know, I used to follow Donald Trump on Twitter because that's when he would announce all this stuff.
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Right? you're Right. And you just, you know, it's like watching a train wreck. You can't look away. Right. yeah But she has also
Impact of Public Scrutiny on Personal Lives
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retweeted ah reposted some derogatory things about the Obamas.
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Mm-hmm. and And I was like, oh, so I was reading the article. I think it was new in Newsweek and it was breaking down the steps. And I was like, ok well, the first one is somebody recently, somebody I personally know, got this mailer because in Virginia we're voting on the redistricting.
00:23:59
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Right. So they got this mailer and on the mailer was the governor, Abigail of Virginia and Barack Obama, saying that they were against the ah gerrymandering or redistricting, right?
00:24:14
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Okay. It is true. That's actually true. They have in the past said this is wrong. yeah This is different. This isn't gerrymandering.
00:24:25
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This is redistricting. And there is a difference between the two. But the the flyer, the mailer that this person got made it seem like they were voting no when in actuality they're voting yes. Right.
00:24:38
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Right. Okay. So I wanted to give her the benefit of a doubt because she could say, well, no, I'm against, you know, human trafficking. I don't know anybody who's not against human trafficking. So if you want to don't. the traffickers. it Well, yeah, except for the traffickers. But if you want to donate to ah causes that are against fighting against human trafficking, cool bet. And so that was her rationale.
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Mm hmm. I was trying to give her the benefit of but doubt until this article broke down all the different stuff that she had done. And then Uncle Luke. Oh, boy.
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Luther Campbell. If y'all don't know who Chili is, by the way, ah she is one third of TLC. I said that at beginning. No, you just said Chili is Macca. And I said, I said, I said, said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, but just in case Luther Campbell, uncle Luke, the, the, the front man of two live crew, right.
00:25:43
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Had a screenshot of all the likes of, that Chili had done on Instagram. Because you know you can see, if you follow somebody, you can see somebody's likes. Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump, all this type of stuff.
00:25:59
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Like before Charlie Kirk died, I'm talking about... Following Charlie Kirk and agreeing with what Charlie Kirk is saying. The same man that said women aren't intellectually smart enough to vote. That same man.
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Uncle Luke busted her bubble. So with yeah all that information being presented, Chili is mad. Even though she's trying to deny it, she's trying to openly deny it. but ah But girl, the proof is in the pudding.
00:26:27
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Right. I'm sorry. Like, you can get away with, I think, making financial contributions to organizations that you thought were supporting anti-human trafficking and veterans causes. and you didn't, you could say, I didn't know they were pro-Trump or MAGA aligned causes. That's cap,
Privacy, Power, and Public Reputations
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first of all,
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or for our generation you perpetrate first of all because everybody knows anything pro-Trump or MAGA is going to have very clear branding on it very clear branding that is kind of Trump's whole thing is branding so there's no way that you did not know that these were pro-Trump or MAGA aligned causes. That's number one. She says, I don't support Trump's policies. A plenty of Trump voters don't support his policies.
00:27:27
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yes Plenty of them. Plenty. And they won't openly talk about supporting him, but they voted for him anyway, even though they know he's a terrible person and a felon.
00:27:40
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Okay? So, that also cap. And then... The repost where she posted a conspiracy-related video involving Michelle Obama, she said it was accidental, attributing it to the confusion with Instagram's interface. Girl, bye.
00:28:05
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Goodbye. Do you know how many buttons you have to push to repost something? actually It's not like you could but repost something.
00:28:17
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ah You could. If you see a post. You're more likely to like a post than you are to repost. Yes. But it's not yeah difficult to repost because they're all the buttons are all right there next to each other.
00:28:35
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So was she trying to comment? Was she trying to like it and accidentally hit repost? But also, i don't think, I just feel like that's Cap. Yeah, it's Cap. It's Cap. Yeah. She, in her rebuttals, she emphasized that she has a longstanding respect for the Obamas and even noted that she voted for Barack Obama twice. Don't care, girl.
00:28:57
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People change. Mm-hmm. People change. Okay. ah but But the story did not stop with just her explanation. Follow-up reporting pointed to what critics are calling receipts, including repeated likes on politically conservative and pro-Trump content. You saw that, that Luke exposed her for that. Engagement patterns that suggest this may not have been a one-off mistake.
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So on one side, you have Chili saying this is all a misunderstanding.
00:29:36
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Okay. A mix of misplaced trust and social media error. That's a lot of accidents. That's a lot of misunderstandings that have like the same ultimate like output.
00:29:51
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Like it's a trend. It's a pattern. that For all these misunderstandings to have kind of the same theme is weird, right?
00:30:03
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huh And then on the other side, you got you and me who argue that, like I just said, it's a pattern of behavior. And that's what matters more than these explanations, especially because we are seeing consistently over time that this is your behavior.
00:30:25
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This is your engagement.
00:30:29
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And you know why she's trying to cover her ass right now. Because most of her fans are progressive. Or Black women. Or Black women, yes. And they're going on tour.
00:30:42
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Right now. There's a big tour that's happening with them, En Vogue, and Salt-N-Pepa. Which, by the way... now Oh, that would have been a great tour, but I'm not going. gang Hold on There's a rumor going around and my friend said that I didn't do the research to confirm. But this person that told it to me is a researcher. So I tend to believe what they're saying. In other words, it wasn't somebody. wasn't barbershop.
00:31:09
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This was somebody who I was talking to about this particular subject. And doesn't come with no foolishness. So I tend to believe that this actually happened. And supposedly there's some audio or video of an interview with T-Boz, Chili's bandmate, that says, not quote paraphrasing here, oh yeah, my bandmate voted for him talking about Trump.
00:31:39
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Notice the words that she said. Not my friend. No. not my homie, not my sister, my bandmate voted for him. So this is a thing that people like has been known. Also, totally makes sense.
00:31:55
Speaker
Huh? Go ahead. got it to Also, totally makes sense that That's the reason why Usher cheated on her. Because he knew who she was. ah The confession was she really a conservative and I can't take it just anymore no matter how fine she is and she is. Just when I thought I said all I could say.
00:32:19
Speaker
You MAGA and that ain't okay. Like this. Okay. Like but but but okay yeah like I just feel like, yeah, it's cap. Like, okay, are we really honestly supposed to believe this is a case of just misinterpretation and digital missteps when we see a consistent pattern of behavior?
00:32:45
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And sources close to T-Boz, so again, take this with a grain of salt, is saying, don't put T-Boz's name in it. Oh, no. She has been very vocal about who she supports and causes that are important to her, and they are progressive. So ah she was like, she's don't put me in ah But she ain't exactly come out and been like, yo, not too much on my girl.
00:33:10
Speaker
ah yeah if If what you heard is true, she calling her a bandmate. Yeah. Yeah, calling her bandmate. That's know that's my bandmate. That sounds like somebody you've known for a long time who switched up on you and is now different.
Professional Consequences of Personal Beliefs
00:33:24
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And you don't really rock with them like that, but y'all trying to get the shmoney, so you're going to keep it cordial. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. That's what sounds like. But I hinted in the last segment when we were going to talk about this segment, this was about two stories. One story where a person was not being authentically themselves, lying to try and whatever, probably...
00:33:48
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Get that money. Right. Yeah. And another person who was like, no, this is authentically me. I'm going to be loud and proud about who I am. Not saying there's something to really be loud and proud about. Right. you know who Jordan Ivey is? Jaden Ivey. No, but I know Jaden. Yeah. Yeah. it's not Jordan. It's Jaden Ivey. Jaden Ivey. He was.
00:34:12
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A member of the Chicago Bulls. He was recently traded earlier this year from the Detroit Pistons. And he was, as of earlier this week, a member. No, earlier last week, a member of Chicago Bulls. But he's not anymore.
00:34:27
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And why? Jordan Ivey. Jaden Ivey. Not Jordan. Jaden Ivey. It's because he... he a for a bit play for the bulls so that's why i think you thinking jordan maybe i don't know what it is who knows what goes on in my head i can't even figure it out half the time jaden ivy erupted in late march of 2026 after a series of instagram live rants containing anti-lgbtq plus remarks religious commentary and personal disclosure
00:34:58
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The situation escalated quickly, resulting in the Chicago Bulls waving him for conduct detrimental to the team. Now, Ivy went on multiple Instagram live sessions criticizing the NBA's Pride Month messaging. He framed LGBTQ visibility and pride celebrations as unrighteous. he his These were direct quotes.
00:35:19
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Quotes. No, it doesn't matter if it's Jordan or Jaden. It's it's not quotes. It's quotes. It don't matter, you ladies and gentlemen. I'm going mess up worse. Listen, this is the week we're having. okay Right. It is.
00:35:30
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Here are some of his quotes. The world proclaims LGBTQ right. They say, come join us for Pride Month to celebrate what they deem. unrighteousness.
00:35:42
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After being waived, he publicly questioned why the team didn't explicitly say they disagreed with his
Jaden Ivey's Controversial Comments
00:35:48
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stance. Now, the team has said, yeah, homie, you was wiling out.
00:35:54
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However, it wasn't just you wiling out on your own time. It's you coming in here, sermonizing the team, and the organization was tired about tired of it. Now, Jaden has found a Lord.
00:36:11
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Ordinarily. I would say praise because ain't nothing wrong with finding the Lord. However, now he didn't found the Lord and immediately started sermonizing and critiquing everybody else's life and what they were doing.
00:36:29
Speaker
And people got fed up with it. And it was okay when it was just in the locker room because they could just be physical and beat you down and tell you to shut up. But then he took it to the outside And the world is like, yo, this is straight bigotry, what he's talking about.
00:36:46
Speaker
yeah And he wouldn't stand up. It wasn't just LGBTQ+. It was a whole bunch of religious stuff. It was abortion. he over He even brought up the fact that he had suffered through depression. And I guess he found the Lord, and that's good, and that's helping him through the depression. But his anti-LGBTQ. LGBTQ and anti-pride commentary and all of his things that he's talking about, his criticized his criticism of wicked music, his anti-Catholic remarks. The Bulls said, we done with you.
00:37:16
Speaker
We can't deal with it anymore. so But he's not backing up. He was like, yo, if y'all gonna release me because of what I say, then say that. Don't say kind ah conduct detrimental to the team. But the conduct was detrimental to the team.
00:37:32
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Yeah, they said the thing. And so he responded in a live stream hours after being waived. He said, quote, They're liars, bro.
00:37:43
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This is lying. All I'm preaching is about Jesus Christ. And they waived me. They say I'm crazy, right? I'm psycho. End quote.
00:37:54
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Hey, bro. Don't know if you read the Bible. Jesus never said anything. about the LGBTQ community.
00:38:06
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It's funny. It's in there. It's funny that you say that. It's funny that you say that. Because there is something in the Bible that says something about homosexuality a couple times. But what people love to focus on is Leviticus.
00:38:25
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Mm-hmm. Ladies and gentlemen, my uncle would be kind of proud. I'm about to turn on my preacher's cap and give a little bit of a sermon. Just a tiny bit. Yes.
00:38:36
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Leviticus chapter 18, specifically verse 22. Yes. Yes. Verse 22. Do not have sex with a male as with a woman.
00:38:52
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This is the verse that's most associated with homosexuality.
Religious Beliefs in Public Discourse
00:38:57
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So once again, that is Leviticus chapter 18, verse 22. But dig this here. There's a lot of verses in this chapter.
00:39:07
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A lot of verses in this chapter. Leviticus chapter 18, verses 1 through 5. God tells Israel not to live like Egypt.
00:39:19
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The core idea is I'm your Lord, your God. So don't copy surrounding cultures. That's verses one through five. Remember, I said. it The one dealing with homosexuality is just one verse.
00:39:33
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Mm hmm. OK. Leviticus 16 to 18, these verses list incest laws. In plain in English, do not have sexual relations with close relatives, including a parent, sibling, grandparent, aunt, uncle, daughter-in-law, or sister-in-law in certain sick circumstances.
00:39:54
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So this these are verses 6 through 18. yeah We can all agree, don't have sex with a parent, a sibling, a grandparent, an aunt, uncle. yeah But how many people out there have sex with daughters-in-laws or sisters-in-laws?
00:40:09
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well And and and notice notice the wording there. Doesn't say father-in-law, brother-in-law. Says specifically daughter-in-law and sister-in-law.
00:40:20
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Why? Don't be sleeping with another man's woman. Mm-hmm. Leviticus 8.19. Don't have sex with a woman during her menstruation period. Mm-hmm.
00:40:33
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That's a whole verse. How many people out there having sex with women on their menstruation period? I love the menstruation period. well yeah and That's that's a lot.
00:40:47
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leviticus eighteen verse twenty do not commit adultery hey So everybody loves to bring up, and there's more, you know, obviously, you know, Leviticus 18, verse 23, don't have sex with an animal.
00:41:04
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But yeah the point, i'm the larger point I'm trying to make is, is people like to pick out this one verse in this entire chapter of a book.
00:41:16
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And say this is something that we need to focus on and don't do it. By also completely ignoring everything else. Because the last I checked, last I checked, there are people out there committing adultery.
Conclusion: Authenticity and Public Expectations
00:41:32
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Yeah, there definitely are. All right. ah Our president. like it's going ah Like it's going out of style. Our president has committed adultery multiple times. But yet he's against homosexuality.
00:41:46
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When it's all in the same book. And actually, adultery is a commandment. It is. I'm just simply saying, it's funny how people take the Bible and want to fixate on certain stuff.
00:42:01
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And don't look at the totality of the message. Yeah, but here's my thing. you know, we're not Hebrew.
00:42:12
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We're Christian. So y'all supposed to be looking at book two, New Testament. They don't, you can look at, you're supposed to be looking at the New Testament, but that doesn't erase the Old Testament. You're supposed both them. doesn't. It don't. It doesn't mean that, right? I get it. You're not supposed to just completely forget about the Old Testament, but we are following as Christians, right?
00:42:36
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I would hope the teachings of Jesus Christ. Right. And Jesus, they say not nothing about the people. Jesus says nothing directly about homosexuality or same sex relationships in the Gospels.
00:42:55
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Yeah, I mean, this is another example of people picking issues and what they want to follow. And this is the reason why I get annoyed with these Christian conservatives who say that they are basing all of their moral beliefs on the Bible. Like, what part of the Bible? Because you pick and choose what you want to face them the beliefs in. Jordan, yeah you are not Jordan. You are Jaden. No, you're definitely a Look, ain't nothing wrong with having a relationship with the Lord.
00:43:25
Speaker
But if you're going to read it, the the the Bible, don't read it specifically to attack others. Read it to gain your own and own understanding. And if yeah you want to live your life, quote unquote, righteously, then by all means, do it. That does not mean that you have the right understanding.
00:43:48
Speaker
to press upon your beliefs on anybody else. and And the first thing people would say, what if he felt ordained by God? It's a lot of people out here that felt like they were ordained by God and they weren't.
00:44:02
Speaker
And they were not. So, yeah, you know, there's nothing wrong with saying what you believe, but when you start preaching, sermonizing, and then attacking, attacking others. I honestly don't have any problem with you sermonizing. I honestly don't. If you feel like something that you've learned or gained ah through your connection with God, like will help somebody in this situation and you start testifying on sermonizing, that's okay. But when you use religion as a tool to oppress or to harm, that's when you lose me.
00:44:41
Speaker
You lose me because that's not ultimately the goal, I think, of any religion. i pretty much feel like they're all saying, hey, don't be a dick and try to, you know, be nice to people. Right.
00:44:57
Speaker
And live your life and in ah with kindness and compassion and empathy. Like, I feel like that's pretty much the central message of everything. How you worship or, like, specific traditions or rituals and stuff can change. I get that. But ultimately, i feel like the whole point is kindness, compassion, empathy. Like, mercy, justice, grace. These things tend to pop up a lot.
00:45:26
Speaker
Yeah. in religion and y'all not really tapping into that and i'm kind of confused as to what exactly religion means to you oh counterpoint not to anything that you just said because i agree with all of it what space do we give for people to operate in a world where they have to participate in things that they fundamentally don't agree with.
00:46:01
Speaker
They didn't force him to participate in pride activities. He could have declined. The league in general is celebrating Pride Month.
00:46:13
Speaker
so And a lot of us work for people or at companies or whatever. that don't do things that are particularly aligned with our personal morals or beliefs or value system. You mean people that might work for Target right now?
00:46:29
Speaker
Right. But you got to you got bills to pay. Yeah. well And Target pays their cashiers well. so let's ah No, they don't. Oh, Target. Target. Walmart was in my head. Walmart, no. Yeah.
00:46:46
Speaker
target does. Yeah. So, I mean, you got to make money. Yeah. ah He just, he threw his career away because yeah I was watching a Dan Labrador show a little bit yesterday and there is a, there is a talent level where they will excuse your actions and the things that you say if you're talented enough to still produce.
00:47:16
Speaker
To a certain extent. I can't, off the top of the head, I can't think of an example. But if Tom Brady had said these things, not just not to put that on Tom Brady, I'm just using him in this example. If Tom Brady had said these things, no team is going to cut him for that.
00:47:31
Speaker
What is the difference between Tom Brady and Jaden Ivey? ah ah ah A great deal. Jaden Ivey. There's also a racial difference. Okay. If it was Michael Jordan.
00:47:45
Speaker
I don't think so. Michael Jordan in his prime could get away with this. I don't think he could. Well, in his prime, you talk about the late 80s and early to mid 90s. I'm talking about if you put him in his prime right now. LeBron James could away not these things. he I'm not putting any of these things. I'm just talking about their talents. No, I'm saying they, I don't think they could get even LeBron James right now. If he, ah ah case in point, we got, uh, uh, for the Warriors, Steph Curry, but ah religious, very religious. Okay.
00:48:24
Speaker
If he, for some reason, don't think he would, but if he ever did make comments like that, no, I think, y'all think you see them endorsements disappear. Yes. I think you'll... Look at Kanye. Kanye was at the top of his game. ah Endorsements.
00:48:40
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I'm saying i don't think the team would release him.
00:48:45
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If he's doing the kind of, like, behind-the-scenes things that Jaden Ivey was doing, or literally a disruption to the team, I think they would. He's also the best player on team.
00:48:57
Speaker
Like, there is no team without him. So I'm just... There's... there's I'm not giving the Bulls, like, so much credit because Jaden Ivey was in his contract year. He was a fifth-round pick, a fifth pick overall, and he hasn't lived up to it.
00:49:13
Speaker
And now I don't see any team really signing him after this, unless he goes on an apology tour, but he seems like he ain't going on an apology tour. So that's pretty much it. Yeah, yeah. I think that's it. I just thought this was interesting because... he will always paint himself as the victim in this situation. Of course. Of course. And he really isn't now. But I just thought it was interesting because you have him and Chili.
00:49:35
Speaker
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, just let you know, we don't just attack white folks. We attack black folks as well. And we attack two of them in this segment. Okay? Yep. Jay Nivey is a black man. Chili is a black woman. And one, even though I do not agree with him, standing on his business...
00:49:54
Speaker
Yeah. Loud wrong. Not backing down. Standing bench. Ten toes down, though. And chilly. I didn't really do that. Nah, you did it. So it's interesting to see the contrast in people. and we talk about being authentically yourself, whatever you got to say about Jordan Ivy, Jaden Ivy, he is authentically being himself.
00:50:16
Speaker
Yeah. Don't agree with him. But he's being himself. Yeah. He's being himself. And yeah in this situation, if I had the choice, gun to my head, I ain't got no choice but to make a choice.
00:50:29
Speaker
I would rather be authentically in myself than be a liar. Yeah. And that's what chili is. So yeah this whole segment was to attack one of the women that was used to be the love of my life. And now.
00:50:42
Speaker
Yeah. No more. Yeah. not and I mean, she had my favorite verses in most of the songs. So like, yeah, it's definitely disheartening. She's not the first celebrity that I find out.
00:50:59
Speaker
ah is pro-Trump or ultra-conservative or, you know, MAGA is not the first. It's probably not going to be the last. It's disheartening every time I hear it because you have a fan base that is diverse.
00:51:17
Speaker
And the policies that you're supporting are directly affecting the people who support you. and I feel like that's a slap in the face.
00:51:29
Speaker
That's a slap in the face because i am a cis woman in America and you supported a a a regime that is against me having my own bodily autonomy.
00:51:46
Speaker
So I find that and I spent money on you, girl. yeah bought these albums. yeah I dedicated my time and my money to you.
00:51:58
Speaker
and this is the repayment, miss me with it. And then you're going to lie like we dumb. Girl, like I said earlier, if it's captured digitally, it will be leaked.
00:52:13
Speaker
It will. People going post them receipts. We love receipts in 2026. We've loved receipts for a few years now. We love it. And they're going to, it's going to come out. and It's just disheartening. Like, at least just be you. And again, if what you... I know, I'm going long. I was like, I'm trying to wrap up this segment. I know. You ain't seen none of my facial expressions. I did. did. I did see them, but I'm just going to wrap up this last thing, which I now forgot, so now forget it. No, I don't know how you forgot. don't know how else you got anything else to say. I was ready to end this segment about two, three minutes ago. I was coming full circle about the points that I made earlier in the episode.
00:53:07
Speaker
Well, then come full circle with it. Well, because I forgot my point now, so it doesn't even matter. God. Ladies and gentlemen. Just because you were just like, wrap it up. I'm trying to get my point out.
00:53:21
Speaker
I'm just saying you was going on and on and on. I'm like, the show is already starting to run long. Of course, you ain't watching the clock. So I'm just like, wrap up your damn point. Wrap it up, B. Wrap it up, B.
00:53:34
Speaker
All right. That's it. That's all I have to say. Yo, stop capping in our faces, man. Like, don't play in my face. After spend money on you, don't play in my face. Get out of here.
00:53:45
Speaker
Are you done now? Yes! so I was trying to give you all the cues. I was like... I saw you. But you weren't wrapping it up. You kept going on and on and repeating yourself.
00:53:58
Speaker
I know, but I had another point to make and I feel like it's gone now, so it doesn't matter. I can always go back. Anyway, I said what I can yeah I said it. I said the things. Yeah, you said it was disheartening broke your heart and you loved all her stuff and wasn't being authentically herself and that she's alive. I didn't none of that.
00:54:19
Speaker
You did? Jay, I don't know Yes, you did. You said all of that stuff. Well, that's not the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is, if it's digital, it'll get leaked. And you said that. when it Yeah, and when it does get leaked, like, and we know you lying.
00:54:39
Speaker
You... Oh, I remember now. When I was talking about earlier... I hate you so much. but I just need y'all to know, ladies and gentlemen, how much I truly dislike. Hold on. You don't even know. Hold on.
00:54:56
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Time out. This ain't going on the live show. it i' so Yes. this about la legitimate Put Keep this all in. well that' All of it stays in. not. Just No, all of stays in.
00:55:12
Speaker
keep it in The hell are you cutting this out? Don't cut this out. Make your damn point. I forgot it again. didn No, Jay, I'm not going back because you said you was going to do it and I was going to let it go. And then you was like, don't you do that.
00:55:29
Speaker
when financial When your digital becomes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It was. Well, if you're going to start it. you don't. Okay. Let's. If you. Hold on, Jay. i I'm editing this. So I had to put markers in here. No, keep it all in. No, i'm I'm not going to keep this all in. This is ridiculous. So I need to do a marker.
00:55:50
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It is, but I need to do a marker. So I'm just going to say. Go. Okay.
00:55:59
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Go. Thank you. Give me two seconds. Give me two seconds. Oh, okay. I remember now. Go.
00:56:14
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So it's like what I was saying earlier. If you have a problem with the backlash that will come from your own decisions, then you need to start to reevaluate your own decisions. So if she's worried about a loss of money for who she supports politically.
00:56:32
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Maybe that should make you think twice about who you support politically.
00:56:45
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Jay, Justin LaBoye, who, if you're on Instagram, you have seen one of his posts, one of his reels. He's hilarious. He's got ah his own podcast now.
00:56:55
Speaker
But I'm always following his posts, right? And I put this on my stories the other day because this is absolutely true. and And the post read, I can't date nobody ugly.
00:57:07
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My family and friends not about to, as long as you happy me to death. um That is one of the worst things that can happen.
00:57:19
Speaker
No, it's not. But we think it is. When somebody is like, as long as you happy, because it's so condescending. You don't really mean to say. If like Right. And nobody really wants to date anybody ugly. Not really. Nobody is out there searching for somebody that's ugly. But Ryan Davis posted something on threads that I saw earlier today that And I thought it was really, really cool because he challenges these deeply ingrained social behaviors of how physical attractiveness influences how people, especially women, are treated. So the quote the quote will calls out men for trying to respect and and tolerance to appearance rather than character. So this is what he actually said.
00:58:02
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He said, men have to stop saying stuff like she doesn't even look good enough to be asking for all that. It implies that we shouldn't treat women according to their character. A woman's looks will never make her a good friend, wife, or mother. We as men have to collectively fight the urge to pedestalize.
00:58:25
Speaker
That's a hard word to say, ladies and gentlemen. and I don't know if it's actually ah a real word. Pedestalize. That's what I said, right? Pedestalize. pedestria less Well, pedestalize beauty if we want women of substance.
00:58:39
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And I was like, Ryan Davis, first of all, if y'all don't understand Ryan Davis, he's a comedian, stand-up comedian. He's brilliant. I've gone to see him in person several times. He is insightful in his thought process and brings up real-world conversations, and this is another prime example of it.
00:58:56
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Yeah, And it counteracts what Justin LaBoy was talking about because if the person makes you happy, who gives a damn what other people think, but they are we do this ourselves.
00:59:12
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Yeah. We look for looks first and then take character first. And then we will often let attractive and attractiveness level determine what we tolerate in a relationship. I'm a prime example of it. I've done it several times. There have been some women who have treated me unkindly, but were fine.
00:59:35
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And there was this one woman that I dated. This had to have been 12 years ago. yeah So I'm in my mid-30s. I haven't gotten to that point where I've grown up.
00:59:50
Speaker
And she was not the prettiest woman. e he But boy, did I have so much fun with her. And man, did we have a great time together. And she would always say, hey, why don't we go my friends? I would always make excuses why i couldn't go out.
01:00:07
Speaker
She was like, hey, how come we always come to your house? How come we don't like go out and do anything? And the my ego wouldn't allow for somebody who wasn't attractive to be seen with me. And ladies and gentlemen, i didn't say I was a good person back in the That was a horrible way to to act.
01:00:28
Speaker
and And then there were times I've been with women. There was one woman that I dated for about a year, and there were four or five separate times because she was very attractive. And I'm, you know, above. You know what saying? I hold it down. And there were several times that that that we were stopped in the street or at a restaurant or whatever. Y'all are gorgeous couple.
01:00:50
Speaker
Now, she would say they're being racist because she was white. And I was like, no, no, I'm normally a bloodhound that's sniffing out racism. They're just giving us compliments because we're good-looking people. But yeah she also did some things racist? this Because she was white and I was black, and supposedly I'm light-skinned, so therefore I'm able to be considered universally attractive as opposed to a dark-skinned person. And I was like, those those stereotypes aren't true anymore. As a matter of fact... She's reaching for that. I mean, a compliment typically does. She was always reaching for racism. And I was like, ask somebody who sniffs out racism as a bloodhound.
01:01:27
Speaker
Like, stop But... yeah We've all done it. And Ryan is right. And I see too many guys that make these comments. It'd just be something, be in the gym working out. And it'd just be a woman, a newscaster or something like that. but And be like, ah, she all right looking. Like, she didn't even ask you to judge her. Why is that immediately our first thought? And I've had to break myself of the cycle. But also, I don't want to be seen with nobody ugly.
01:01:55
Speaker
but the But what's implicit in that is you yourself don't find the person attractive. Right. It really doesn't matter what everybody else thinks.
01:02:08
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You yourself don't find the person attractive. Because I guarantee you, if you find someone attractive and people try to argue you down about it, you gonna be like, are y'all seeing what I'm seeing? Because I don't understand. There are plenty of times where I find somebody attractive and my friend be like, I don't think so. I'll be like, you're tripping.
01:02:32
Speaker
it's It's the fact that you don't find the person you're with attractive, so you're embarrassed. No, in no, no. If you found them attractive, the fact that you could say, i have so much fun with her, she wasn't attractive, because you don't find her attractive. No, no, no, no. I did find her attractive. Well, okay.
01:02:53
Speaker
Once again. you didn't. Once again. but Once again. Her body was amazing. Okay. So I was attracted to her.
01:03:04
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Yeah. Portions of her. Yes. But I mean, we're all attracted to portions of people, whether we want to admit it or not. Yeah, but that's the thing that we need to unlearn is like loving somebody holistically and not taking body parts and saying, I love these pieces. Because then you're reducing somebody to an object that you could peel apart the the things that you like, that your favorite things. And that's not what people are. They're a whole, complete being, and we need to get away from that. But if... If you're talking about you with somebody and I don't want to date nobody ugly because everybody will be like, oh, bless you, me to death.
01:03:47
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That's not the person for you because you don't find them attractive. It doesn't have to do nothing to do with anybody else. Because if you found them attractive, you would defend them.
01:03:59
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No. Once again. Instead of hiding them. This goes back to, i forget which segment we're in, because, ladies and gentlemen, this recording has gone Where segment three? ah I know which segment we're in, but I forgot where we were talking about this, because this recording has gone super long. And I'm not talking about the stuff that y'all actually seeing and hearing. My sister in the second segment, good God. But I can't remember which segment it was that we were talking about.
01:04:24
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how people weren't living authentically yourself. I think it was the first segment. Yeah. Weren't living authentically themselves. So outside pressure of people can can force you to relinquish things that make you happy. So I'm going to push back on that argument that you're saying, well, you don't find that person attractive.
01:04:46
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That may not be the case. It may just be the case that you don't want to hear nobody else's shit. because you already don't see them as attractive. You're preemptively, you're preemptively attractive.
01:04:59
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concealing this person because you know other people will say something about their attractiveness because you've already, did not because they've said it, but because you've already deemed this person unattractive. No, you may have deemed them not, you may have deemed them average, right? Not breathtakingly gorgeous, but not ugly.
01:05:20
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Did I deem that young lady as ugly? I didn't deem her as ugly. She wasn't ugly. She just was, you know, regular. But I had a great time with her.
01:05:32
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And got fed up. In private and secret. Yeah, well, I eventually went out. We went to this hole-in-the-wall pool hall. I was like, see, we out! Look, ladies and gentlemen, but i I was a jerk back in the day. And she knows who she is. She's probably not listening to this because she does not mess with me anymore. And who would blame her? But...
01:05:51
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This is a man. This is not solely a man issue, but it's majority of man issue of it is treating people. don't think that's true. ah ah Visually, I think men are more visual than women. It is more important for men to be stimulated visually than it is for women by and large.
01:06:10
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I don't think so. Listen, this is not going to be the most feminist thing that I've said in my life, okay? But it also happens to be true.
01:06:23
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The sexual harassment sometimes don't look like sexual harassment if the man is fine. it Hold on. a that is is and a turn Look, it does... I've been... ah You've worked with me and seen me be sexually harassed.
01:06:40
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Yes. It's not fun. No, no. I mean, when a man is sexually harassing a woman, right a woman might not interpret it that way if he's fine to her. oh well, once again, you've seen me in our work environment. But. Be that person that yeah if I didn't look the way I did back in the day, ladies and gentlemen, back in the day, if I didn't look the way I did, would have been received a lot differently.
01:07:11
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Yes. So I don't I think this is a human thing. We we perceive things for those of us who are sighted. We perceive things.
01:07:22
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With our site first. Yes. That is how we... present the First thing is we look at you. Mm-hmm. And then, I mean, it's pretty much how all social media dating is set up. You look at a picture and you swipe left or right depending on how that person looked. Right, because people damn sure ain't reading the captions first. not reading. You're looking at the picture first. You're not reading at Which actually, there should be a dating site for people who truly... There probably already is one. For people who truly want to meet somebody...
01:07:50
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Where you read their profile first before you see what they look like at all. They keep trying to do that, but as inevitably people are going to corrupt it. And that's just the way that it is. All of them, I think, start out that way. That's the intention with all of these apps, is that you will read what people... But the amount of times I get asked, do you have kids, when it clearly says on my profile that I don't, let me know.
01:08:18
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yeah You're not reading. Well, I've long since done away with online dating. I won't do it if I don't meet you out in real life or one of my many female friends try to set me up with their friends. And there's one female friend of mine. I'm like, hey, look, your friend is fine. don't you introduce me And they're like, okay, I will. And they don't ever do it. And you know who I'm talking about listen to show. That's some bull.
01:08:42
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I'm ready to meet her. But, like, I would actually be nervous to, like, get it on a dating site nowadays yeah because I do this show. So it's like... you could be having a conversation that you mean to be private and then somebody could put you on blast on the internet.
01:09:00
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And then I can't say I didn't say it because you got screenshots and you didn't know what I'm saying. There's a certain type of character that I want to be presented on the show that you know sometimes i don't always live up to. But anyway, it is, i think Ryan Davis had a really good point that we have to stop looking at attractiveness as a barometer and start looking at character.
01:09:26
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Yeah. And life in general, not just in our romantic relationships. Dr. King said that. We ain't been listening. What'd he say? Hold on. don't remember saying that. He was talking about race, but you should look at the content of my character. Yeah. yeah Well, no. It's the same this the same principle. It is the same principle. but But things like pretty privilege do exist. There are people who are conventionally attractive that get out of situations because of how they look or get perks because of how they look. I actually had somebody... ah The other day, say oh, you should go with me to go get this car looked at, because if they see you, there they might you know throw in some stuff for free.
01:10:14
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I don't think that happens to women at car dealership. I'm like, that don't happen. I feel like most women get hustled at yeah yeah that's the Like maybe if you go out to a restaurant and you're getting food, you might get some free drinks or something like that. right But like yeah car dealership, that was the wrong person. That's not, no, no, that's not right. But these things do exist and we do use them as a barometer for how we're, how we'll treat people. There was a video on TikTok, a lady walking down the street. She had on sweats, carrying a box that she's clearly having difficulty with. She's dropping it. Men walk right past her.
01:10:53
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She goes, puts on a dress. Same woman. Fumbling with the box. Every man stops to help her. Yeah. I have to catch myself from doing that. Like when i hold the elevator, I'm like, I'm holding elevator for everybody.
01:11:09
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Yeah. But do I try to push the button real fast if ugly person tried to get on? Man or woman? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. I don't like small talk. So that's part of the reason why I'm avoiding it. That's the reason why I'm pressing the button because I don't want to be stuck on an elevator now and just be like, it's weather, right? yeah Yeah. I don't want that. But ladies and gentlemen, look at yourself and look at your situation.
01:11:37
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If you are feeling uneasy about a relationship, friendship, friends, partner, what have you, ask yourself this question. If they didn't look the way that they did, if they were really attractive, or if they're not really attractive, would you put up with more or less? Depending on if they were more attractive, would you put up with more? Would you put up with less if they weren't attractive? If you answer those questions as, yeah, I would put up with more because they're more attractive, or nah, wouldn't put up with nothing because they're not that attractive. The issue isn't them. It's you.
01:12:13
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And that's just my TED Talk. Jay, what do you want to tell these people out of here before we get out of here? Man, there's nothing wrong with liking what you like. There's nothing wrong with that. You can like what you like. just You don't have to shit on everybody else.
01:12:28
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