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S1-EP64 Tactics Tuesday: The Most Improved Players Under Arteta Are...?
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This is your Tactics Tuesday, where we talk all things stats, rest defence, xG and more. And today we’ll be taking a special look at the most improved players under Mikel Arteta so far.
Host: Esmonde Cole
Guests: Michael Jeremiah, Jamie Patterson, Josh Duncan
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Introduction to the Arsenal-focused Podcast
00:00:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello? No!
00:00:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alright, so we we tried this introduction many times and it seems like the intro sting wants to be the protagonist here. But this is the Daily Arsenal Podcast and it's not gonna allow us to stop us from talking about Arsenal. Welcome to the show, people. This is the only place to catch all things Arsenal five days a week where we get no sleep.
00:00:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm your host, Esman Cole, joined today by Shadow Striker Jamie Paterson, Regista Joshua Duncan, and Silky Libero, Michael Jeremiah.
Mixed Emotions on Liverpool Draw
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Global Sports Podcast Network
But first, Michael, how are you feeling about that tense draw against Liverpool last weekend?
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Michael
ah ah so I feel good. feel good I feel happy about the performance in regards to progression from the Bournemouth game and um um and our Shactor game as well.
00:01:03
Michael
I feel slightly aggrieved by the result. I feel like we could have won, got all three points. Liverpool were definitely there for the taking, especially at home. I'm also happy that we've maintained our record of not losing to them over the last, I think, four or five games the Premier League. So yeah, I'm um'm i'm cool. I'm all right. A bit jarred. It could have been a big three points, but we move.
00:01:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, the story of the season so far in terms of points that we've dropped, they're all games we could have won. And it's always disappointing when you lose a goal, kind of, you know, what, 70 minutes, 70 minutes in from a, from a winning position. So yeah, man, that was a bit frustrating, but you know, we move,
David Raya's Rise Under Arteta
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Global Sports Podcast Network
we move. And this is your tactics Tuesday, where we talk all things stats, rest, defense, XG and more. And today we'll be taking a special look at the most improved players under Mikel Arteta so far.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
But first up is our defence, Jamie, David Ryo. Were we wrong to doubt our tete when we first signed them?
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Jamie
Do you know what? Yeah, ah ah I think we can all sit here and admit it. Yeah, we we we really did underestimate him.
00:02:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Isn't that right Joshua?
00:02:07
Josh D
yeah and
00:02:10
Jamie
no Oh, you know what? I was goingnna um was was going to wait a little later on in the episode, but the floor's all yours, man. Go for it.
00:02:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:19
Josh D
I mean, only nine games, didn't you know what I mean? Only nine games in, so...
00:02:22
Jamie
Oh, here we go.
00:02:24
Josh D
Don't get me wrong, he's been tremendous at the start of the season. But we'll wait till the end of the season, what your stats are saying, if you can keep it up. But so far, Arteta has proven me wrong, definitely.
00:02:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean like if if we're talking stats I mean obviously last season you can see the 21 goals in 44 appearances 21 clean sheets is all competitions I mean it was pretty good last season I mean this season he's been doing pretty well for us hasn't he Michael
00:02:53
Michael
Yeah, he's been doing pretty well this season, man. He's been pulling off a lot of amazing saves, a couple of double saves in there as well. And he seems to be quite pivotal in regards to our attack as well, and starting that off from from the back. So I think that's, for me,
00:03:10
Michael
where I feel that the change has happened with Darryl Rayo because I didn't see it making sense especially for the first couple of weeks I was like this is not making sense at all I used to call him a shaky Rayo man even in the Liverpool game you saw a few glimpses of you know early last season Rayo so yeah but I
00:03:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
Gabriel's Defensive Consistency
00:03:28
Michael
pulled it out of the bag
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Josh D
you put
00:03:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, Jamie, do you think we've got the best version of Raya at the moment? I mean, if we're looking at his Brentford record the season before he left, I mean, it's in the 77% save percentage, which is on the 94th percentile. He saved 148 shots from 92 shots on his goal. He only had a 32% clean sheet rate, which is a kind of a middling range of 69th percentile.
00:03:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think you know with with that in mind and his performance, not only this season, but his great stats last season, do you think we've got maybe the best version of him?
00:04:04
Jamie
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you you kind of touched on it about his Brentford days. And I mean, even then when we had Ramsdale at the club, you know, he was great. He was a great keeper. He was the key behind getting us to Champions League football. But I feel like with Ryre, he was that the upgrade, that next level we kind of needed to kind of progress as a club not saying that ramsdale is bad or anything it's just i just think with with riring goal he just adds a bit more than what ramsdale would have added say
00:04:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah and and as someone who hates most players at Arsenal Football Club Josh, what what do you think what do you think is standing out for him so far, not only this season, but maybe last season as well, in terms of attributes that but these modern-day goalkeepers need to to save that all those shots and goals?
00:05:05
Josh D
think he's just so quick to get off get off the ground, you know what I mean? Like, again, the the the Villa one, where the Pony, and he just got off the ground. I'm sorry, the Pony was the Champions League game.
00:05:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:05:13
Josh D
and Watkins, when the Watson had the header, he had wiltson's rid really should have scored, but he's so quick to go off the ground. And for me, he can pick a pass. i You know, I thought you were wrong.
00:05:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:05:23
Josh D
Ramsdale was good at it. He wasn't too bad at it. But David Ray is like, he can play a play centre midfield the way he's picking passes.
00:05:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:05:30
Josh D
You know what I mean? So it's a bit I think that's probably where the the big improvements you probably can see in the goalkeeper wise. Save wise, I think Ramstad, he did make good saves as well, i don't forget he made tremendous good saves.
00:05:36
Jamie
Hmm. Hmm.
00:05:41
Josh D
I think Ray has started to show that now, a bit more this season. yeah Yeah, I think that's the only way he's actually improved with us.
00:05:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And do you think, do you think Jamie, he's maybe improved a bit more because he knows that he is now number one with, you know, Neto being in the only backup and he he himself is only a lonely.
00:05:59
Jamie
Yeah I mean at the minute I think he's got he's he's got himself comfortable now but again for any goalkeeper once you've had a couple of years at the club you know there there will be a point where Arteta will look to try and get someone in and give Raya that competition it's just how does Raya go and handle that competition when the time comes?
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah. Well, let's move on to another section of the defense and Gabrielle will be asking, is he, because he may be underrated just after this quick message from Zencaster.
Gabriel's Statistics and Growth
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Global Sports Podcast Network
yes and welcome back to the show and we're talking the most improved players under our tetter and we're moving on to big gabs big big big gabs i mean this guy has improved quite a fair fur amount i mean if we were looking at his stats in the 21-22 season he's he conceded one one point an average of 1.3 goals per 90. That was 35 goals in 35 games. So he he wasn't in the best in terms of the percentile, 64th. Only kept a 37% clean sheet rate. That was 13 clean sheets in 35 games. And he just he just wasn't the same consistent gabs that we're now seeing under this Arteta range. Would you agree, Michael? Do you think his ah his consistency has been really key?
00:07:49
Michael
absolutely man i feel like you know, that saying birds of a feather and you know, who who you flocked together around and who I feel like that's a very applicable to Gabrielle. Cause I remember in the 2020, 2021 season, I believe he was in and around the David Louise's I believe. And I think Kalassanak was still there at that point. Like he was, when we, that first season he came, I mean, you could say that it was down to, you know, what's the word, adjusting to the Premier League. There's also that sort of leery has to give him, but,
00:08:20
Michael
Yeah, I definitely feel like having somebody else next to him, I'm sorry to bring it on to Saliba, I know this is about big gaps, but yeah, having someone else next to him that he can kind of lock in with has been key in his and thiss consistency of having that same partner back to back, 30 a game in the season in the prem, even in other competitions as well. His consistency has literally just been, yeah, spectacular.
00:08:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, it's interesting you mentioned Saliba because Jamie, i I want to I want to posit this to you. I mean, do you think maybe we stick it on whenever we talk about gabs, we're also talking about Saliba in the same sentence. I mean, if we look at these stats, gabs, a stat so that 2122 season made 13 interceptions, which is zero point 38 per game, one 225 ground joules, which is six point six per game and one 147 joules as well.
00:09:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whereas if we compare that to last season, he made 28 interceptions, which is 0.8 per game. He won 257 duels. Aerial duels, he won 75.
00:09:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
So he was making 2.26 per game. He was only dribble past five times last season. That's kind of like Van Dyke levels of previous seasons.
00:09:31
Josh D
Yeah.
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Jamie
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Whereas in this season in 2021, he was dribble past 11 times. do Do you think maybe we should be giving some more respect to Gabriel as the player himself and not Gabriel and Saliba in the same sentence?
00:09:46
Jamie
No, definitely. I mean, you look at maybe the start of this season and the fact that Gabriel is really kind of, I'm not saying that he's, he's only started this season, but he's done it on previous season, but this season's really kind of like put a stamp on saying like, look, you know, I know that I've, I know that everyone's talking about Saliba, but this is what I can do.
00:10:09
Jamie
This is what I'm capable of doing. You know, I'm sure if I'm sure there's there's games where you know like you take the weekend for example where obviously we didn't have Saliba and Gabrielle still performed well without Saliba he had Ben White next to him it's you know he still performed well and so so did Ben White as well so I do believe that This season now, we've got to give a bit more respect to to Gabrielle because we we don't see it enough. We you know we don't say it enough that he's he does turn up. He's pivotal in games. you know You look at the North London Derby. He turns up in that game. you know He turns up in some really big games. And you know it's good now that Gabrielle's now starting to get the recognition that he also deserves as well as Saliba.
00:10:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, that's true. I mean, that's something that, he consistently does as well. Uh, Josh is that he scores, he scores at us. And Jamie alluded to it. He was very pivotal in a North London Derby. He's the second highest scoring center back for us ah ah with 13. He's only behind Kishowni on 22.
Gabriel: Aerial Duels and Goals
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Global Sports Podcast Network
What makes him so good in the air?
00:11:19
Josh D
play our set-pieces really I think maybe because you know Deccan Ryan's whipping the ball in you know quality balls I think he just times his run he 90 times he's jumped he knows where to be he knows what he's doing and he knows he's a guy that I think he's got in the training when they're doing the training and you know you tell him something he knows what he's doing he's always in position where he's doing well I always think he's been always been underrated over Saliba. I think he's a quality player, you know, I think even when back the statue was saying as well, I think again, but to be fair, when he had all the the play like, you know, the Mustafis and the Kachowans and one of the Kachowans.
00:11:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Glassinatch.
00:11:53
Josh D
and that Yeah, and you know you're going to have a bad performance then.
00:11:54
Jamie
Yeah.
00:11:57
Josh D
I think even last season as well, know we had Zajenko on the left-hand side as well there. and He saved his his off so much on that left side.
00:12:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:12:06
Josh D
It it didn't get spoken about where Saliba, I mean, you've got Ben White there on the right side and and Ben White's pretty solid right back. So yeah, I think Gabriel, I think he's very unrated.
00:12:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he is very underrated. I mean, ah you mentioned Rice. Rice said that even in training, he's quite aggressive with ah the youngsters when it comes to headers. he The aggression gives him that kind of edge.
00:12:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you can see that when it comes to scoring those bullet headers against those disgusting teams like Spurs, which is always nice. But talking about scoring goals, let's talk about haverts, Josh.
00:12:40
Jamie
yes we get to the best part we get to the best part of the show now oh yes
00:12:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's do that after this quick break. Wait for this lads, wait for this.
00:12:45
Josh D
or Good.
00:12:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's go for a quick break.
00:13:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome back to the show and we're putting Joshua in the hot seat. It's time for the main event.
00:13:26
Josh D
Oh, God.
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
I have it i mean, let let me just state the facts first. so I know you're, you know, you're, you're one of those, you don't really, you don't really deal in facts and
00:13:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
But under the Chelsea in the 2023 season, he had 0.2 goals per 90, only seven goals in total, which actually in that season was quite high in the 83rd percentile, is a bit weird.
00:13:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
He had 0.03 assists per 90, only one assist in that in that season, that last season for Chelsea, eight goal contributions in total.
00:13:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
But under our Teta, 13 goals in total, 0.44 goals per 90, putting him in the 93rd percentile, seven assists in total, giving him 20 goal contributions that season.
00:13:59
Josh D
But.
00:14:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, at this end of the line, I say that season, last season. All jokes aside, why do you think there's been such a drastic change from the version we've seen at Chelsea to the version we're seeing now, Josh?
00:14:24
Josh D
I mean, if you look at the Chelsea team, they were in chaos when he was there. I mean, you know, they're really
Havertz's Improvement at Arsenal
00:14:29
Josh D
just starting to get the act together now, where with Arteta and Arsenal, I think you've got a manager, Arteta, that believes in them, even when people like me, you know, are calling his head.
00:14:39
Josh D
So yeah, I think that's probably why they're seeing the best of habits, even though I still don't think he's the, you know, I want more from him. I want more from him.
00:14:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's good. You want more?
00:14:48
Josh D
I want him to literally get those 20 goals a season and prove me wrong.
00:14:49
Jamie
Hmm.
00:14:52
Josh D
I still don't think he can strike a football properly. I want him to go there and prove me wrong.
00:14:58
Josh D
And I think he's starting to turn me a little bit. But then when you've got performances like he did against Liverpool, it's a bit like, oh, have it. It's the same old have it, isn't it?
00:15:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, he was playing striker that day. Do you think do you think strike is his best position, Michael?
00:15:14
Michael
yeah i do i do i do i think we've experimented with him dropping down further down the pitch into that sort of left tape position which was that granite jacket position we call it and yeah we just didn't look as fluid man it just wasn't as connective and it could have been especially with martinelli on that left side or whether trussauders over there or jayzus whoever it was so yeah number nine hundred percent he can hold the ball in the air he could drag defenders in when they're trying to press to give space a sack on the right or whether it is on the left wing um yeah hundred percent number nine by position i think he can be a lot more clinical like josh is saying if you're going to get stamped that number nine on as his position there's definitely room for more for him to be more clinical um but i think he's heading the right place his movement's in the right place um it's just a bit applying himself that more do you know what i mean
00:16:01
Josh D
you.
00:16:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, applying himself that time more, but he seems like he's become a bit of an old all-rounder, not only scoring, but assisting. I mean, his expected assist last season was 7.82. I mean, and to be honest, he's always been that player, even at Chelsea, his expected assists were 2.67, but he only converted 0.10. So ah when ah when it comes to a rapid change, like there has been a big change, a very big change. I mean, Jamie, like do you think do you think he's at his peak or do you think there's still levels to go?
00:16:31
Jamie
Not quite at his peak just yet, but you know he's still I think he's still got a way to go. you know I quite like the fact that he's you know he's coming to an Arsenal team where obviously at the start he was, a lot of us, even myself, when he first came to Arsenal I was a bit like,
00:16:50
Jamie
not really too keen on this. You know, I don't understand why we've signed Habertz from Chelsea. We've had history from signing Chelsea players before and it's never really proved us well. But it suddenly seems that now Habertz is slowly starting to bubble and show what he's capable of. But I still think there are elements to his game that he still needs to improve on. But I do believe I was reading up about it in the ah well I was watching a video from the athletic about it and when Arteta took him in he he said about how yeah you know he wants to build a family he wants to bring his confidence out on the pitch and whereas with Chelsea he didn't he said himself that when he was at Chelsea he didn't feel a family kind of connection there and he
00:17:43
Jamie
was really lacking in confidence but now that Arte is kind of starting to get his confidence out there it's you know it is starting to slowly shine through now but again there there are small elements of his game he does need to improve on.
00:17:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And, I'm assuming Josh, those small elements are striking a bull, right?
00:18:03
Josh D
Yeah, yeah it's i mean i think he's heard up play I think he's pretty good at that. I think he's good at you controlling the ball. Finishing really, he just needs to be more clinical. I want him to, the chances that he had, I'm guessing in Liverpool, I want him to be no brainer, put back in the net.
00:18:19
Josh D
you know I only want to do a strategy there.
00:18:19
Jamie
yeah
00:18:21
Josh D
you You don't want to give him your chance because you know he's going to be back in the net.
00:18:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. yeah
00:18:24
Michael
Do you not think he has but a bit of flair, Josh?
00:18:27
Michael
Like, when I ask but i use the word flair loosely, but I feel like Canvas has...
00:18:32
Jamie
so
00:18:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I said it with your chest, come on man.
00:18:34
Michael
Just loosely, because I feel like he has those, you know, those people in school, like when you play five a side that have that two tricks in their locker that are worldies, but in everything else, just never goes to plan.
00:18:38
Jamie
Yeah.
00:18:44
Jamie
Oh yeah. Yep.
00:18:46
Michael
I feel like he's one of those players where like, he'll do like a little flick or like a little lob, where'd that come from? Learn that on an international duty with Florian Wertz and those guys. You know what I mean? Like, it feels like he sometimes has an element of that in his locker that I'm like, okay.
00:19:01
Michael
Do you know what I mean? Give him a bit of, a bit of kudos where you can.
00:19:06
Josh D
yeah he does do a few things i'm just like i don't know you could do that you know i've never seen it up before you know so i'm maybe he's trying to tell me in training i don't know but i've got a question for you guys like how much goals do you do you how much how good do you really think he's gonna get because i don't really see him making that much improvement i think he'd probably be a guy probably get you 15 17 goals maybe 20 goals maybe a season all coming
00:19:11
Michael
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
00:19:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, you don't want him to score 20 because obviously you'll be losing a bet so
00:19:32
Josh D
Hey, hey, listen, listen.
00:19:33
Jamie
I was going to say, we have to bring up that bet. We have to bring up the bet.
00:19:36
Josh D
If he think if you can win get 20 goals a season and you know we win the league, I'll eat my half of it.
00:19:40
Michael
Yeah.
00:19:41
Josh D
You know what I mean?
00:19:42
Michael
I mean, uh,
00:19:43
Josh D
I'll do it at the ceremony. I'll do League.
00:19:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
it
00:19:46
Josh D
I'll do it then. But i just don't i don't I still don't see him getting 20 goals.
00:19:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you, do you, what, do you concur with that Jamie?
00:19:51
Michael
turning goals in the season.
00:19:55
Jamie
Do you know what, there there's a small part of me that thinks, yeah, 17, you know, maybe 17, 17 to but I just don't know if it'd be 20 plus, in my opinion.
00:20:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Michael, do you, uh, I mean, this this is quite a negative talk from these, these young bucks. Do you, do you, are you on that same train?
00:20:14
Michael
uh it's tough man i feel like it's we ask them that are a strange team like that there could be three or four games where we smash somebody six one four nil and you might get a brace or a hat trick and a couple of those you know i mean i think based on his ability alone i don't see a 20 goal a season striker currently terms of kind of improve that much and his ceiling like josh said I don't think his ceiling is very far from where he's currently at.
00:20:47
Michael
I don't think there's like, oh my God, we've still got to see the best part I have ever. However, saying that, Otter is a madman, and we've seen him do things with players that we haven't seen any other manager do, do you know what I mean?
00:20:54
Josh D
Yeah.
00:20:59
Michael
So I think, scarily, I'm like, there could be a beast that's waiting to be unleashed here, do you know what I mean?
00:20:59
Josh D
Yeah.
00:21:00
Jamie
yeah
00:21:06
Michael
God willing, because that would be great for us, but bad for your money, Josh.
00:21:10
Jamie
Yeah.
00:21:10
Michael
But yeah.
00:21:11
Jamie
yeah
00:21:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
you have
00:21:12
Michael
Yeah, I feel like, and the eye test, no, but with my tetta, who knows, man, Jimin.
00:21:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'll tell you.
00:21:18
Jamie
Listen, michael ah Michael, Michael, I think you've i think you've made Josh's night now.
00:21:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:21
Jamie
You've really made his night.
00:21:21
Josh D
Yeah I'm a little bit happy because when I first came on this podcast and it's like everyone just didn't see what habits what he does like can you not see that we've had better up front I'm used to guys doing things here I'm just like you know what I could never be a football player because I wouldn't even think to even do that you know I mean you know when we picked up and put buried barters you know I've goes like that with habits
00:21:34
Michael
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:43
Michael
Yeah.
00:21:46
Josh D
I think I could do half of his job a little bit, what he's doing.
00:21:49
Michael
Yeah.
00:21:49
Josh D
I'm not the coolest guy, but I could actually win a bit of airdrop. I could do what he's doing a little bit.
00:21:54
Michael
Yeah.
00:21:54
Josh D
So for me, it's nothing amazing, but he has improved on his game half of last season and this season. So hopefully he can prove me wrong. I don't mind being proven wrong.
00:22:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's it doesn' mean he's definitely been getting ah the the best out of Habers, that's for sure. So hopefully for our sake, he can score those 20 goals and you can pay that money. but speaking of managers, I mean, our tetta, my United out of the manager.
Ten Hag's Dismissal and Tactical Impact
00:22:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, we've already got, but we're recording this a bit early, but we're recording on the day 10 hark has been sacked. I've already got the, the thoughts of Jamie in a previous podcast, but I want to, I want to hear from, from Michael and Josh, what, what, what your thoughts on, on 10 hark leaving, uh, Michael.
00:22:28
Jamie
Yeah.
00:22:35
Michael
Oh, it's too soon, man. I could have done the 10th hug hanging around at least till Christmas. I mean, I mean, we've got you United later on in the calendar and I would have loved some, to humble them one more time at least. I mean, and you know, sometimes when manager ah ah teams get a new manager, there's a new manager balance and they try new systems and stuff. So it may not be as smooth. I mean, I've got no doubt we're going to be United per manner of this season anyway, but yeah, 10th hug.
00:23:02
Michael
he got a new summer a new contract this summer, I believe, or at the end of last season.
00:23:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah
00:23:06
Josh D
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:06
Jamie
yeah
00:23:06
Michael
So it did come as a bit of a surprise, but also off the back of the West Hammers, I was like, yeah, this is, it's funny about Jay as well in midweek. I said, this is looking bad.
00:23:17
Michael
This is looking very, very bad.
00:23:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
i mean apparently he was surprised as well when he was called in for another meeting so like i mean it's a bit it's a bit selfish isn't it just like them second ten hug like
00:23:25
Josh D
Really?
00:23:25
Michael
and
00:23:27
Jamie
but Yeah, literally.
00:23:27
Michael
big
00:23:33
Josh D
you know what is here it doesn't make any sense to why are they sat him because in the summer that's really they should have been like you know what we have a stick with this guy we don't sit with this guy they gave him 200 million to spend on he's put all his friends on IACs and now you he's left them four teams and with a team where a manager will come in and be like I don't want these guys these guys are these are they're all rejects that people wanted in in the market.
00:23:48
Michael
deep
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What?
00:23:55
Michael
Did you say he bought one of his friends from IAGS?
00:23:56
Jamie
Yeah, I was about to say that, yeah.
00:24:01
Josh D
California Flurry, those guys that we went for in the summer, those are people that people wanted them. Madrid wanted them. People were linked with them. We have them delete.
00:24:11
Josh D
No one wanted them. you know No one He's a decent player, but he's not going to where you're trying to go for. I don't know where they're trying to go for, top four, or I don't know where they're trying to go for. But these are type of silences.
00:24:23
Josh D
They're not going to hire. So yeah, it's a bit of a...
00:24:25
Michael
i think i think the only one the i' going to say I think the only one that kind of did make sense, and he actually got injured in the preseason game against us, was Leni Yoro. That was, me he looked, yeah, he looked promising, but apart from
00:24:34
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah. That's the only one. That's the only one. That's the only one.
00:24:35
Jamie
yeah, yeah.
00:24:37
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But we dealt with him.
00:24:38
Josh D
But they've reached an arm and I'd like to get him.
00:24:40
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like We dealt with the boy.
00:24:41
Jamie
That's so true.
00:24:42
Josh D
They've spent like 64 million on him and he had like one year left on his contract. Something stupid like that.
00:24:47
Michael
it was crazy, and he was 18 or something.
00:24:47
Josh D
You know what I mean?
00:24:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that is silly.
00:24:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is silly.
00:24:48
Jamie
Yeah.
00:24:49
Jamie
To be honest with you, you look at the, you look at the Man United set up as well.
00:24:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:53
Jamie
And a lot of players that are in that set up are former Tanhag players, Anthony, Delict, you know, Onana.
00:25:04
Jamie
So I feel like, again, he was trying to build this philosophy of, oh, well, I did really well in the Champions League with the likes of XYZ. So you know what? Let's bring them to United and let's just, let's just roll the dice and hope it works there.
00:25:17
Josh D
Nang.
00:25:18
Jamie
But again, that's where it's gone wrong for, uh, that's where it's gone wrong for him. But then you look at like an RNA slot and again, it's come from Firenord. Have you seen him brought any of his players through?
00:25:30
Jamie
No, he's he's gone to Liverpool, he's kept things as it is and it's still working. So, yeah, it's, ah yeah, sad times for United, but listen, you know, I think we can all sit here and just, we we all wish that he could have just stayed for Christmas, you know.
00:25:47
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Yeah, it's sad times for the entire league,
00:25:48
Michael
No.
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but this last Last question before we wrap things up. Anthony or Pepe?
Comparing Pepe and Anthony
00:25:56
Michael
Pepe
00:25:56
Josh D
Pepe all day.
00:25:56
Jamie
Okay.
00:25:57
Josh D
Pepe all day.
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I love how everyone leaned forward and went Pepe.
00:26:04
Josh D
He's numbers are actually better. Like way better.
00:26:06
Jamie
Yeah, they actually asked me for.
00:26:08
Josh D
you know And Pepe's a flopper arsenal, even though I don't think it was that bad.
00:26:12
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Really?
00:26:12
Jamie
well
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Well, you think it was better than Levett's?
00:26:13
Josh D
I don't think it was that bad.
00:26:14
Josh D
I don't...
00:26:17
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but
00:26:17
Jamie
Oh.
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You're breaking up there, Josh.
00:26:20
Josh D
so Oh, o wait.
00:26:20
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You're not going to hate you. You're breaking up several of your line.
00:26:24
Josh D
No, butpa he was an awful though. He just he just wasn't the main guy like that.
00:26:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Come.
00:26:29
Josh D
The money he spent it from him wasn't worth it.
00:26:29
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Come on.
00:26:30
Michael
Yeah.
00:26:31
Josh D
He wasn't awful.
00:26:31
Jamie
Well, to be honest, you've you've got to remember also that Arsenal didn't actually well, Emery didn't want to spend the money on him.
00:26:32
Josh D
well
00:26:37
Josh D
Yeah.
00:26:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
E1 isn't hard.
00:26:38
Jamie
He wanted Zaha. And again, it was the backroom staff that, you know, it was all the the suspicious goings on back in the back room staff that obviously led to what it led to.
00:26:49
Jamie
So, you know, again, he was never worth his price tag. But, you know, when he when he was all right, he was all right for us.
00:26:58
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't agree with that. He only came alive when he went at the like like the last three games of the season, every season.
00:27:02
Josh D
Really?
00:27:05
Josh D
Nah, he wasn't that kind.
00:27:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
He would score like, he would score like a player against Southampton.
00:27:05
Michael
and i thought i enjoyed i enjoyed a pay man I remember his debut against Newcastle came on I'm pretty sure his Newcastle Premier League debut and he skinned somebody immediately and I was like this guy's sick he literally reminds me of like
00:27:07
Jamie
It was alright.
00:27:18
Jamie
Yeah.
00:27:20
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:22
Michael
cage ballers from school and from the ends that ah ah hes he reminds me of somebody that's here to have a good time. I don't think he minds if he scores or if he doesn't score.
00:27:28
Josh D
yeah
00:27:31
Michael
He's like, if I'm going home and I'm not like a free man today, I'm gassed. That's what but I mean. And I think at the Premier League standard, that's just not enough, unfortunately. I mean. fish
00:27:41
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All right, then.
00:27:41
Josh D
the
00:27:42
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Pepe Ojibinha.
00:27:44
Michael
Oh, Pepe, Pepe, Pepe.
00:27:44
Josh D
fepe
00:27:45
Jamie
Okay.
00:27:46
Josh D
yeah <unk>no was he was just yeah he was saying
00:27:49
Michael
He was bad.
00:27:50
Josh D
you were fat enough he was
00:27:52
Michael
He was Once again, just happy to be here, man.
00:27:53
Josh D
i mean that hairlight as well for
00:27:56
Jamie
Oh, yeah.
00:27:57
Josh D
what all the the the the
00:28:02
Jamie
Wow.
00:28:04
Michael
What is that?
00:28:05
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it just not
00:28:05
Michael
Just happy to be here.
00:28:06
Jamie
Yeah.
00:28:07
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i'll be to make the cup bro
00:28:07
Michael
Just happy to be here.
00:28:08
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have to make the cup bro
00:28:09
Michael
See what I mean?
00:28:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
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