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Friday Forecast - Liverpool v Arsenal preview
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Kalr Coppack joins Jesse Sarwar to go through all the main talking points ahead of this weekends huge PL clash against Arsenal at Anfield. So naturally we talk Man Utd's embarrassing loss against lowly Grimsby Town in the League Cup, a bit of Sherlock Holmes and we thought we should then talk about Arsenal!
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Preview: Liverpool vs Arsenal
00:00:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. I'm Jesse Sawa. It's the Friday edition of the Liverpool podcast. So we're looking ahead to this weekend's big Premier League game against Arsenal.
00:01:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm in the company of Mr Karl Kopach. Feels like it's been a while, Karl, since we last podcasted.
00:01:14
Karl
Yes, it has, yeah. yeah you I've been mixing it with the youngsters.
00:01:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
With the youngsters, yeah.
00:01:19
Karl
Yeah, with their canvas trousers and their trainers.
00:01:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Did he understand anything that they were saying?
00:01:23
Karl
Yeah. Not a clue, no.
00:01:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:01:26
Karl
What's XG? No idea.
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Exactly.
00:01:29
Karl
and No, don't know. God bless the youth.
00:01:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, are. Yeah.
Manchester United's League Cup Exit
00:01:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. In today's episode, we're going to obviously preview the Arsenal game. i think we'll spend a bit of time laughing at Manchester United being knocked out of the League Cup.
00:01:39
Karl
Yes, please.
00:01:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
And maybe got time, we maybe even talk about fictional British detectives. Carl, how's the Sherlock Holmes podcast going?
00:01:52
Karl
It's, we've got a bit of a backlog at the moment. We're a bit behind our production. So yeah obviously there's a massive crossover between this and my show, Sherlock from Antler to Amberley, but with we've got them in the bag. but They're just not out yet.
00:02:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
I thought you going to say crossover with Moriarty, who's stuck in Switzerland somewhere.
00:02:07
Karl
No, no. Oh, we do cross over with that. No, we've killed him already because we're doing it within its story by story. He died about two years ago for our podcast.
00:02:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, for for people who've just joined our podcast and they're wondering, okay, is is this the right podcast?
Karl's Sherlock Holmes Podcast
00:02:21
Karl
Yeah.
00:02:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
what What is your podcast and where can they find it
00:02:24
Karl
So the podcast is called Sherlock from Adelaide Amberley, which I do with my friend John. And we are inviting people are into Sherlock Holmes to talk about firstly where how they got into Sherlock Holmes.
00:02:36
Karl
we're doing the story the short stories, all 56 of them in order. uh, we've got various people on from American podcasts as well. we've, uh, our mutual friend, Neil Atkinson has been on two of them and he's got one more to go.
00:02:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:48
Karl
did the first ever one. and it's interesting because we're doing them in order. And so we're at the bit where Sir Arthur Conan does starts recycling his plots a bit, but let's just say the red headed league is very similar to the three Garadevs.
00:02:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:03:00
Karl
You know, it's that sort of thing. speaking of Moriarty, So we've killed Moriarty because we've've we've ah the the final problem.
00:03:10
Karl
And, of course, arthur Sir Arthur Conan Doyle killed Sherlock Holmes, then brought him back years later, basically for money. So he kills him, then doesn't kill him. So in the final problem, you kill Moriarty. Moriarty's dead.
00:03:24
Karl
But in the novel, The Valley of Fear, Moriarty's in that and Watson asks who he is. So there's lots of very, very strange timelines things going on. And don't get me started on how many times Watson was married, because no one knows.
00:03:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I won't. I won't because we'll never...
00:03:38
Karl
No. We've lost everyone now already.
00:03:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, we've lost everyone
Grimsby's Triumph over Manchester United
00:03:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
now. So, yeah, yeah the couple of people that are left.
00:03:42
Karl
XG, come back. We'll talk about XG.
00:03:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Obviously, this is Liverpool FC podcast it's po podcast. So we're going start off by laughing at Manchester United.
00:03:50
Karl
I can talk about that too.
00:03:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
beaten by the mighty Grimsby town of League Two in the first or second round of the League Cup. Second round, yeah.
00:04:01
Karl
It's the second, isn't it, think, because we're in the next one.
00:04:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
On penalties. I mean, they're they're out before we even enter the competition. it was a bit of a throwback as well. I don't know if you saw the game, but it was massively entertaining, apart from hate watching it.
00:04:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
it was massively entertaining because it there was a torrential downpour.
00:04:22
Karl
yeah.
00:04:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so I'd like, you know,
00:04:24
Karl
I thought my screen was faulty.
00:04:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, yeah, exactly.
00:04:26
Karl
It was that bad. it went It went all misty by the goal. I noticed I thought, of can I can't see the goalkeeper.
00:04:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. So yeah, so you had people kind of slipping and sliding around and it was like route one football. And in the end, Grimsby Town go through on penalties and Manchester United, one of their new attacking options who they signed for, what was it?
00:04:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
50, 60 million pounds.
00:04:49
Karl
I think be right back.
00:04:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Penalty. Yeah.
00:04:53
Karl
Oh, that one. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to make out which £60 million signing you're talking about.
00:04:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:58
Karl
That one, yeah. He's well lucky, actually.
00:04:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was a, who else missed a penalty?
00:05:00
Karl
but
00:05:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was,
00:05:02
Karl
Well, now I'm thinking about Sesco, who could have won the game two yards with the ball at his feet.
00:05:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's right.
00:05:06
Karl
to No one in front him when he puts it over the bar.
00:05:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I thought really interesting that he, he wasn't the one of the first five that stepped up for a penalty.
00:05:13
Karl
it I made a note. He took the ninth penalty.
00:05:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
The ninth penalty. and And, and you are,
00:05:17
Karl
The crucial ninth penalty. That's mine, Gaffer, he said as he walked into the center circle.
00:05:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:05:21
Karl
Give me the ninth.
00:05:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, you know, you're you're the big money signing up front. I mean, surely, you know, that doesn't bode well in terms of like the mentality. I don't know. Am I reading too much into that?
00:05:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know.
00:05:37
Karl
Probably just didn't fancy it, I think.
00:05:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
fancy
00:05:39
Karl
And I think in some ways it's cruel on Grimsby because they they should have won 3-0.
00:05:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that was a shocking decision.
00:05:47
Karl
I it again. I don't know what you what you've been trying to do there.
00:05:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
How do you get that wrong? you don't You don't need VAR to see that that was clearly onside.
00:05:53
Karl
No.
00:05:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And what a great finish.
00:05:57
Karl
Yeah, he's a mile on.
00:05:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
What a great finish as well.
00:06:00
Karl
Yeah.
00:06:01
Karl
Because I watched that and I was thinking he's got that he had a lad in the middle, didn't he, ready for it?
00:06:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah.
00:06:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:06:05
Karl
And I thought, you can't you can't Darwin Nunez this. You can't take that. You can't. Oh, God, yes.
00:06:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:06:11
Karl
And it's ah a lovely finish. And the best United could take out of that was they forced them to penalties. They got back in the game. That's the only credit they can take from that, which is minimal, because they should have lost Because I think if it goes 3-0, I think they just go home.
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's over.
00:06:26
Karl
and
00:06:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:27
Karl
and They're not bringing that. They're not even... 2-0, you can have a go. I get the idea of 2-0, but 3-0 now.
00:06:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, too know if you get one goal back, then you're right back in it, right?
00:06:34
Karl
Yeah, yeah.
00:06:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:35
Karl
As we've evidenced more than once this season.
00:06:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
More than once. Yeah, exactly.
00:06:38
Karl
Yeah. In fact, twice in the opening two league games. But it's...
00:06:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:42
Karl
Why not?
00:06:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah we're we're not goingnna we're not going to dwell on United too long. But I want to ask about Ruben Amorim.
00:06:46
Karl
Yeah.
Pressure on United's Manager: Ruben Amorim
00:06:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ruben Amorim. Because, you know, wendy good look yeah his opening game of the season, okay, Arsenal come to town. They are one of the title contenders.
00:06:59
Karl
Yeah.
00:06:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, you can you can forgive a 1-0 defeat against Arsenal.
00:07:02
Karl
They played well. They did play well.
00:07:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:07:04
Karl
United played really well, I thought, in that game.
00:07:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Against Arsenal. But then you go into a League Cup game, you're playing against a League Two team. Surely the this is one of the competitions where you've got to say, you know what, this is one that we can target. This is one where we can build that mentality, that winning mentality, try and win a trophy.
00:07:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he he he goes out of the first hurdle. I mean, how much pressure does that put on him?
00:07:31
Karl
Yeah, I mean, they were awful last season, lost more than they won. and But they could say, at the very very the the thinnest of so of reads, you could say, well, at least we got to a final in Europe. Yes, we were abject in that final.
00:07:48
Karl
against a team who were also abject and we lost that but we did get to a European final so you know it's not completely washed out and then you can say i mean it's it's it's basically how you judge the League Cup Newcastle it's the world to them because they haven't won a thing in 70 years and I completely appreciate that and I had no problem with what they did last year and they deserve to win but to go buts it's it's just mad it's just mad because he went strong as well I mean you know
00:08:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
He went strong. Yeah.
00:08:13
Karl
Yeah, I know they had the lad Heaven at the back, but you know he's not going to start every game. or i thought Harry Maguire's an England international and goal scorer. And I don't know where he goes. I think he's already at the stage where he thinks, I can't do this now.
00:08:30
Karl
I can't do this. I don't know what they call it. I mean, he pretty much said he knew what the problems were. And lots people saying, oh, yeah, it's because he plays five at the back and does all that sort stuff. It's not. It's not the manager. and I say this to but by my United friends all the time. He's got the same problems as Ten Hagaz, and it's the people and the culture around him, including the owner, who's happy to lay
United vs Liverpool: A Cultural Comparision
00:08:50
Karl
people off but talk about £100 million pounds stadiums.
00:08:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:54
Karl
It's the culture of Manchester United. Everything they've had from Ferguson has disappeared. Literally everything. There's no one left now. All they've got is Rio talking about how great United are and stuff like that. and this There's nothing left. and I find this fascinating because this was us in the 90s.
00:09:12
Karl
This was exactly us. you know we went out and we went up and not not in the night bre We lost to Northampton at home.
00:09:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
exactly
00:09:18
Karl
We lost to... Was that Crimsby at home? Late to Maxwell School.
00:09:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
It might have been.
00:09:23
Karl
But we lost we lost a few humiliating league cup games and things like that.
00:09:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Hmm.
00:09:26
Karl
And you just felt it's it's slipped away to the point now where we can't get this back without a massive reset, which is going to cost us at least seven managers before we find the one we want, who just gets that jammy f FA Cup win.
00:09:39
Karl
You just get sixth in the league you move it all from there. Can I pause? One sec, I've got to
00:09:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I know what Kyle's saying. You know, I think we're at the stage, or Manchester United certainly are at the stage where where Liverpool were back in the 1990s. And through the two thousand up until FSG,
00:10:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
brought Liverpool, and then they started to implement their strategy, firstly through Brendan Rodgers. And when that didn't work out, you know it was the big one.
00:10:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
They got Jurgen Klopp, a transformative figure who completely ah ah completely got the club.
00:10:20
Karl
Thank you.
00:10:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
He got the club and you know got the the the team and the club back up. So i think up until Manchester United get their own Jurgen Klopp, who understands the club, understands the fan base and really just kind of creates that synergy between, you know, the the the fan base and, you know, the players on the pitch.
00:10:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
then I don't think it's going to change much at Manchester United. And also, ah as you as you mentioned, Carl, the ownership.
00:11:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, that the the ownership, but as much as we criticise FSG and there's lots lots to criticise about them, they are experienced owners of kind of, you know, of, of, of sports businesses that, that succeed and that do well and that, and that they do well within a particular budget.
00:11:20
Karl
yeah
00:11:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
They, they, they, you know, spend within their means. They don't, you know, they don't kind of put a huge amount of debt on the club, et cetera, et cetera.
00:11:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
So. Yeah.
00:11:34
Karl
I think that's an interesting thing because what FSG do, I think we might see this with Isak maybe, is if they can't get their man, they'll wait.
00:11:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:44
Karl
Just knowing they'll get their man. Whereas Man United, I'm i'm thinking of the Van Gaal period in particular. Dia Maria, the lad from Monaco, his name is over here. Falcao, you know, players like that. And he's throwing 40, 50, 60 million pound players into a squad who have never met.
00:12:01
Karl
you know, he wanted he won an FA Cup, fair enough. But I don't think FSG do that. And they' they're not going to just think, all right, well, you know, I mean, they did it in 2015 with Swap, when 14-15, when Suarez went and they brought in Markovic and Chan and people like that.
00:12:18
Karl
I think the problem with United is... And it's difficult for them because i can see what their issue So basically... I say this to mates all the time, no matter how bad you United are, they'll always get the players because they'll always pay the wages because they'll always they've always got the history behind the whole thing.
00:12:34
Karl
And it's very simple for owners to just think, oh, we'll just get him rather than think, no, we don't want him. We need a left-footed striker because that bloke's on the right over there and he's our best player and he'll create this. And they go, no, buy the name, buy the name because he'll get 10 more points.
00:12:48
Karl
And it's not always sustainable. And FSG, see it the other way around. We we waited for Van Dijk.
00:12:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:54
Karl
When Mane went away to the to the AFCON in his first season, I was screaming at them to get someone in to play. Because we were top the league when he went.
00:13:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:02
Karl
And then we didn't win in January. Didn't win a single game. Went out to Plymouth in the FA Cup and stuff like that. No, we got past Plymouth in me. Went out to someone embarrassing anyway. and And they'll FFG will all say no, because it doesn't fit in with what we're trying to do.
00:13:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:17
Karl
And United, that I think, it's just scattergun.
00:13:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:13:19
Karl
Yeah, we'll have Cesc going on. We'll have, you know, the other lad.
00:13:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:13:23
Karl
Kunin.
00:13:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, 100%. They've got a structure and they stick to it. Okay, we're at the halfway point of the episode and we've spoken about the two most important things to Liverpool fans, which is Sherlock Holmes and Manchester United.
00:13:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we're going to go to a very quick break and when we come back, we will speak about Arsenal.
00:13:39
Karl
It's what the people want.
Arsenal's Strong Season Start
00:14:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, let's get back to some proper business then. It's Arsenal who are the visitors to Anfield on Sunday. It's a 4.30pm kickoff UK time. That's 11.30am Eastern time for our friends in the US.
00:14:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Carl, Arsenal have had a good start to the season as they normally do. Two games, two wins. They're scoring goals and they're not conceding. So it's a strong Arsenal team that's coming Anfield.
00:14:47
Karl
They're a very, very strong team and but they're a very impressive team as well. And I know there's there's lots of, you know, laughing at Arteta in second places and things like that. And yes, we would have won the league had we won more. Had we got more points, we would have won the league. you know, that ridiculous argument.
00:15:01
Karl
we'd just done better, we would have done better. But they're very, very impressive. I think they've bought exceptionally well. I really do. i i think Zubimendi is what they want. Never liked Thomas Partey for various reasons.
00:15:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:15:12
Karl
And the lad they've got up front, he's got two on his home debut. So, you know, that's it um know something about, you know, strikers who score on their debuts. and And it's a big thing. It's going to be a hard game, this.
00:15:24
Karl
And it's a weird one because i make a slight underdogs for this in terms of a win, a draw you'd expect. But it says we're because Arsenal are playing better than Liverpool are.
00:15:37
Karl
And yet we both got the same points. And, you know, we've got, we've got, they've got six goals. We've got seven. They've got zero.
00:15:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, they've conceded none.
00:15:44
Karl
We've got, and we've got four.
00:15:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've conceded four.
00:15:47
Karl
Yeah. All, all completely preventable goals. And, So it's it's weird to see how he approaches this really about who he brings in and I know we'll get to that but at the moment I think Arsenal are some of the better team judging by two games obviously, you can three if you want to throw in the charity shield for us which was messy but But yeah, it's it's almost as if the Premier League computer has put this game in right here now just to set a tone for the rest of the rest of the campaign.
00:16:18
Karl
Because City have already lost you know and things like that. People get go early on these things.
00:16:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:23
Karl
So I think this is really interesting. I think this is a really big test for us. I think that's a very, very impressive lineup Arteta's got there.
00:16:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's got it's it's got a massive squad now. I mean, the investment this summer, you look at the signings they've made. Martin Zubimendi, obviously we were linked with him oh about a year ago. £60 million from Real Sociedad.
00:16:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've brought in Eze from Palace for around about the same £60 million.
00:16:45
Karl
yeah
00:16:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've got their number nine, Victor Goikarez. ah You've mentioned he's already bagged a couple of goals. £60 million from Sporting. They've got Maduiki from Chelsea. £50 million.
00:16:58
Karl
Worst debut I've ever seen, by the way.
00:16:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mascara. Yeah, yeah.
00:17:00
Karl
not his not him Not his fault. It's just that they the they would defend him, but he ran away from the ball twice.
00:17:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not his fault, but, you know, it is not. Yeah.
00:17:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Muscara, centre-back, is coming from Valencia.
00:17:10
Karl
Yeah.
00:17:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've got Christian Norgard, defensive midfielder from Brentford, and Kepa, goalkeeper from from Chelsea. And so in terms of, you know, there's been a lot made about...
00:17:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, how much money we have spent. And if you, I mean, if you look at the the net spend, Arsenal have spent £250 million pounds this summer and they've sold £5 million worth of player.
00:17:37
Karl
Yeah.
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
£245 million pounds basically, whereas Liverpool, so hundred fifty million pounds again we have spent We've brought in 170 million.
00:17:47
Karl
Yeah.
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, you know, obviously net spend of 105, that may, and I would suspect it will change, whether it's Gahey, whether it's, sorry, Isaac.
00:17:54
Karl
I think it will say.
00:17:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, you know, Arsenal have got a ah ah very, very kind of powerful squad now. um I think they've got a better depth at the moment than Liverpool have.
00:18:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
So,
00:18:10
Karl
I was thinking when you mentioned Norgard there, I thought he was brilliant against us last season.
00:18:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:15
Karl
I thought he was really impressive.
00:18:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:16
Karl
He was absolutely everywhere. And I don't know where he gets his minutes for Arsenal at the moment. I don't know when he plays. It's because he's not going drop Zubemendi.
00:18:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think cup games, yeah, cup games and the the odd Premier League game, I think...
00:18:27
Karl
and he said i you know
00:18:30
Karl
He's not going to drop Rice. Where's he going to play? If he's playing it' if she's playing a six, he's third choice.
Arsenal's Strategic Gameplay
00:18:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think when when you're a player of that, you know, we've you've you've come from Brentford. I think that, I think you almost accept that going to a bigger club means you're probably going to get less game time, unless you're, a you know, a 19-year-old kind of prodigy who's going to, you know, tear up the world.
00:18:47
Karl
yeah
00:18:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think if you're at the stage of,
00:18:58
Karl
Oh, a 16 year old.
00:18:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or a 16-year-old, yeah. But I think but in terms of Arsenal's game plan, you've seen Newcastle you know trying rattle Liverpool you know physically and you know some would argue that that worked.
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Arsenal, known to be quite direct, they've already used their kind of long throws and their set pieces in the first couple of games.
00:19:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you look at players like canate who isn't yeah hasn't started the season particularly well you may have an issue at right back does it mean that you know arsenal are going to kind of target that side bearing in mind that even if bradley does come in is he 100 100 fit yeah
00:19:41
Karl
No, and I thought he was poor, actually, when he came on against
00:19:43
Karl
It's interesting, the centre-back is that it's the one area for me. I wouldn't play i think he plays, I think Canate plays, but I don't think I would do. I don't quite get the argument that Joe Gomez isn't ready to come back in yet when he got no minutes against Newcastle, where we were holding out a lead.
00:19:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Hmm.
00:19:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:57
Karl
That made no sense at all. So I think he plays Gennate. wouldn't. I think his head's gone. I think he needs to have a long think about what he wants to do with his life at the moment. Because he's not just been bad in the last two games. He's been genuinely atrocious.
00:20:12
Karl
He won one really nice header, think, in the second half, but won and he had the opportunity to... so basic i think that's Virgil van Dijk's greatest game in a Liverpool shirt.
00:20:22
Karl
i really dave just not Not even just the play-in, not even just as as a player, but as a you know as a captain, as a cajoler.
00:20:23
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he was phenomenal. Yeah.
00:20:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:30
Karl
because he's not playing in a partnership. He's playing with a man who needs sort of dragging up from the trenches by his arm by his armpits, you know, to get out and play.
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:37
Karl
So I don't know if he goes, but I think he will go with, know, I'll take the physicality as much as anything else. I'm not sure I would. And the right back thing's interesting because Conor Bradley, don't know, he's got 19 minutes in him and Zaboslai, who, and I know where Zaboslai starts because McAllister's back.
00:20:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:20:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, this is the thing, isn't it? I think this is one of the big selection... wouldn't call it a problem, but decisions that Slott's got to make is because now Wietz has come in and Wietz, again, it depends on how is Slott going to use him? Is he using him as a fourth nine, in which case he's in that kind of front three mix?
00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or is the midfielder, in which case that's Sir Bosley's position, right?
00:21:19
Karl
Yeah.
00:21:22
Karl
think it's to feel bad. Yeah.
00:21:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's Sir Bosley's position. And so is is it a case of, well, we need to play Sir Bosley, so he plays it right back so that Vietz can come in?
00:21:34
Karl
Yeah.
00:21:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or order does Vietz go up as a false nine and he go with a tried and trusted midfield three of Gravenberg, McAllister and Sir Bosley?
00:21:45
Karl
I think he goes right back for Zabosloy. I think he starts again. He brings Conor on to finish it off. I think he takes Werthoff after an hour, like he tends to do. I think that's still going to be the formula for a bit.
00:21:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:57
Karl
Werthoff's not to speed. He's getting knocked over all over the place.
00:22:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:00
Karl
He thinks he's got half an hour every single time he gets the ball. And sometimes he thinks he doesn't have enough time when he has, really. So he's doing all... I heard someone say after the Bournemouth game, we did loads of loads of pretty stuff and none of it helped us in any way.
00:22:14
Karl
just look It looked gorgeous, but not much point of us not doing anything. i think I think he starts with him and then then I think he brings Bradley on as the Bodle goes back into midfield.
00:22:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and and I think Jones is, mean, Jones had a pretty decent game against Newcastle, yeah.
00:22:30
Karl
Arguably man of the match.
00:22:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, I mean, i think he's put himself in, you know, into the conversation as well.
00:22:36
Karl
Yeah.
00:22:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think that the Canate one is, I think it's really, think that's the, I think that's the really big decision because, I don't often say this, but the international break, which is so annoying when it's so early in the season, when just kind of getting up to speed in the Premier League.
00:22:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think it might have come at the right stage for us because Arsenal is a big, big game. And I think...
00:23:01
Karl
If we win on Sunday, wow.
00:23:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's it's it's it's all it's all good, right? Nine points and we've taken three points.
00:23:06
Karl
Yeah. We've knocked two rivals out.
00:23:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. But I think that if if this was another game with a lower league opposition or a team further down, don't know if he'd play Leone, but yeah i think it's too early.
00:23:22
Karl
I think.
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But but I do think that... I think there's got to be a conversation about whether Canate deserves a starting place. But I just think the risk is too big in a game like Arsenal.
00:23:34
Karl
Yeah.
00:23:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think you've got to have a bit of stability in that but back line. Bearing in mind, there's we've got two essentially new fullbacks.
00:23:42
Karl
yeah
00:23:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
then if you've got Sir Bosley in the mix as well, he's not a natural fullback. in that back four. And so I just think it's too much instability. But I do think Slott's got to sit down with Canate, you know, over the international black break and just say, look, you know, you need to sort yourself out.
00:24:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
If if you if you are leaving, if you are leaving, then no problem. If you want to play for Real Madrid, if you want to pay go and play for your hometown team, it's
00:24:09
Karl
Do you want to play four minutes for Real Madrid every couple of months?
00:24:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
No problem. Yeah, no no problem. Have a look at your mate Trent. No problem. Okay. But you're not going to be doing it on my watch. you're going to be on the bench.
00:24:20
Karl
No.
00:24:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. And I would have no problem then playing Leone next to Van Dijk.
00:24:27
Karl
All gamers.
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Knowing that, yeah, you know what? He might make some mistakes. But I would i would trust i a fired up young Leonie playing next to Van Dijk, next to a Canate who, as you said, whose head might be somewhere else.
00:24:43
Karl
Yeah. Who's doubting himself constantly.
00:24:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely.
Arsenal's Injury Woes
00:24:48
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So I think that, so I mean, Arsenal are going to have a few players out as well. Odegaard left the Leeds game with an arm in a sling. Saka at the moment is expected to miss at least four weeks with a hamstring problem.
00:24:55
Karl
Yeah.
00:24:59
Karl
Yeah.
00:25:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
and i think that's And I think that's quite interesting for Arsenal fans long term because... um um I know a lot of Liverpool fans look at Saka as a potential Salah replacement.
00:25:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
know, he's got two years left on his Arsenal contract, but he had a really serious hamstring injury last season.
00:25:18
Karl
It's up for ages, yeah.
00:25:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he was out for ages and that that really kind of, you know, put Arsenal's season to bed really. with this new injury, think be interesting to see whether he whether that has had any kind of lasting impact because you've seen it in the past with quick players like, you know Michael Owen at Liverpool, you know, one too many hamstring injuries and that kind of explosive power, whether it kind of physically goes or whether just mentally, psychologically, they just think, I can't do this.
00:25:37
Karl
yeah
00:25:47
Karl
Yeah. It gets in your head.
00:25:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how that how that plays out.
Liverpool's Squad Depth Challenges
00:25:53
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But we've we've talked about Wirtz, which I think you're right. I don't think that he has he's got going yet.
00:26:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I want to go to some of the forward options now. I thought Eketike. I mean, i honestly didn didn't think he was as good as he is.
00:26:08
Karl
i've got sorry I was going to say that there's also a question that left back for me.
00:26:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, yes. and and And whilst I agree that some of the criticism has been overtop over the top with Kerkhez, I do think that that's the value of, I said this last season, and and um'm I'm sure you said the same, is that I'd rather Kostas leaves because you want Robertson next to Kerkhez.
00:26:35
Karl
Yeah, you want your dad there, don't you?
00:26:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because Yeah, because that there are going to be games and, you know, we've we've we've already seen the first couple of games where maybe this game he sits out because Arsenal is a big game.
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then you got the international break. he goes back He goes away with Hungary, goes away with Zboslai, you know, refreshes himself, maybe comes back and reintegrates himself into the team. But I i would not be against Robertson coming in for this game.
00:27:03
Karl
I'd start him, yeah. I'd definitely start him for this.
00:27:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. And what about old Freddie? He's got more minutes under his belt, think, this season than the entirety of last season. and Chiesa. And I thought he's looked pretty good every time he's come on.
00:27:16
Karl
Yeah, it's I love him. I love him. not sure he's the number nine for Liverpool, to honest, but...
00:27:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:27:23
Karl
which which he's been playing but he has also scored one and set one up because you know he he he plays a good big part in the winning goal too not as much much as Zemozla but yeah Freddie Church absolutely love him
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:27:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, um'm I'm going to put you on the spot then with with a predicted line-up. I think we can both agree that Alisson is going to start. He's still our number one.
00:27:45
Karl
No, I think we should. No, yeah, of course.
00:27:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sir Bosley.
00:27:51
Karl
Curtis Jones has to play. i mean, come on.
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. So who are we going in the full-back positions then? Are we going Sir Bosley Robertson?
00:27:57
Karl
I'd go Robinson. I think he probably will play Curtis, but I'd go Robinson, suppose, like.
00:28:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then we're sticking with the centre-backs, Canate and Van Dijk.
00:28:05
Karl
I wouldn't, but that's what's going to happen.
00:28:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, then. So what are we looking at midfield then? Are we going for Gravenberg, McAllister, Vietz?
00:28:15
Karl
Yeah, I think jar you can't really see past them three, really. He's got to play Vert. We miss McAllister so much at Newcastle.
00:28:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you could tell, couldn't you?
00:28:23
Karl
Just the way he takes time out of the tempo. and Yeah, I think we really, really missed him. And I thought Curtis was fantastic. I really did. I thought Gravenberge was quite poor to start with and then suddenly you see what he does.
00:28:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but you can see the difference in Gravenberg either Gravenberg or McAllister doesn't play I think you can see that we're definitely missing something in midfield
00:28:38
Karl
So I think they they're my three.
00:28:42
Karl
Yeah.
00:28:47
Karl
Yeah, yeah. just doesn't we We were over on Monday, simple as that.
00:28:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And in terms of the forward line, know, we don't have many. I know it sounds like we're whinging, but we we don't have a lot of depth up front now. So it's Sando Gakpo Ekotike.
00:29:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
The kid will come on. Exactly. um You said it's going to be a close one. I'm i'm actually going for a 3-1 Liverpool. i think that I think we'll have too much for them eventually at Anfield.
00:29:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And um'm I'm hoping that Arsenal live up their kind of stereotype typepe of of crumbling in the big moments.
00:29:31
Karl
I think with Arsenal and Anfield, I've been at the last few ones. The funniest one was the 4-0 where it was nothing going on and then Arteta kicked off and then suddenly and then we were 2-0 up minutes later.
00:29:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:43
Karl
That 2-2 game was a game where that's the most impressive Arsenal I've seen at Liverpool since Paul Merson and Alan Smith and Roe Castle and people like that. It's weird. If they go a goal down, his head will go.
00:30:01
Karl
Arteta will go nuts. If one decision goes against him early on, he'll be you know screaming at cameras and stuff like he normally does.
00:30:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:30:08
Karl
If Arsenal are on this completely, they get a draw.
00:30:15
Karl
but But they haven't beaten us at Anfield for a long time. But I think Arteta will quite fancy this just because of the shaky start where we've only got six points and only scored seven goals.
00:30:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:25
Karl
like Roy Keane made a good point about this. He said, you can talk about Liverpool being shaky you all you want, but they get you three goals a game. And that doesn't half help the scoreline.
00:30:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Yeah.
00:30:34
Karl
It makes such a difference if scoring three a game.
00:30:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll have Kevin Keegan back as manager at this rate.
00:30:39
Karl
So, I don't know.
00:30:42
Karl
Yeah.
00:30:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, that is, we're going to wrap it up now. So for today, you've been listening to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. We've got more content coming your way. Louis Easton will be doing a special crossover episode.
00:30:57
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