Podcast Introduction & Key Topics
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Hello and welcome to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. I'm Jesse Sarwar. No midweek action for the Reds. So today we'll talk updates on Alexander Isak, Mohamed Salah winning awards again.
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And with the Reds travelling up to St James' Park next Monday to play Newcastle in the Premier League, thought we'll take a look at the long history of not just players, but really great players that have played for both Liverpool and Newcastle.
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So let's jump straight into the latest Liverpool FC news.
Isak's Departure Intentions
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Alexander Isak has really doubled down on his desire to leave Newcastle United.
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You may have seen that the Swedish International has put out statement, his first really, I think during this summer transfer saga. Louis and Adarsh covered that statement on the pod yesterday. So check out that episode if you haven't already, because it really is well worth a listen.
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But the long and short of it all is that Isaac believes that promises were made to him by the club and that they have not fulfilled those promises.
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And as far as he's concerned, the relationship between him and the club has changed. ah broken broken down, broken beyond any repair. And he wants a solution that satisfies all parties.
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And obviously I'm presuming that means it's at Newcastle and Liverpool because he's made it quite clear that he he not only just wants to leave, but he only wants to go to Liverpool Football Club.
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And...
Player Contracts & Transfer Dynamics
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It's interesting. I mean, the guys covered this on the podcast as well yesterday. You know, there's been a lot of talk around Isaac and his conduct, his behavior.
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And it is, I guess, a feature of the modern game where really, I suppose those contracts that players sign, I wouldn't say they're not worth anything because if they weren't worth anything, he'd he'd already would have left.
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But... Nine times out of 10, a player that wants to leave a club will eventually leave the club. And it's just about really finding the price, the fee that the selling club are going to be happy with.
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Because really the alternative is just having a player that is happy. Deeply, deeply unhappy at the club. The alternative is that maybe the relationship with his teammates might have broken down. They may see this as really being very disrespectful, not showing up for pre-season training when they have...
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And, you know, lastly, but but not least of all, his relationship with the fans, you know, would have been maybe, you know, terminally affected, you know, how he comes back from this.
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and faces the Newcastle United fans and wear a Newcastle United shirt again, i i find it very hard to imagine.
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And I guess that's part of the reasoning behind this strategy of kind of engineering a situation where it's almost untenable that Isak stays at Newcastle United. Now,
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He's basically saying, look, a deal should get worked out where everybody gets what they're looking for.
Newcastle's Reinvestment Strategy
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You know, the player leaves and goes to a club where he feels he can fulfill his ambitions.
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Newcastle United will get a good chunk of money, over £100 million pounds it looks like. so that they can reinvest in the club and maybe do what Liverpool did a few years ago when, you know, we had a player in a similar situation who he made clear wanted to leave, he wanted to go to Barcelona, Felipe Coutinho.
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And, you know, it was a big blow for us. But we took that money, we reinvested it, bought two absolute world class players, generational players in Virgil van Dijk and Alison Becker.
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And that catapulted us into you know the next level, you know winning the Premier League, winning the Champions League, doing a clean so sweep of of every trophy available in English and European football over the course of the next few seasons.
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Now, Newcastle United could try and do that. Now, whether they have the the status, the gravitas as a club to attract the kind of player that Liverpool Football Club attract to propel them from a kind of top four challenger to a bona fide Premier League and Champions League challenger.
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I think is debatable. I don't think they do have that. I think that they have a, you know, they do have a pull, they have a cachet, but I think it's one that most Premier League teams have.
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I think it's one that players will look at and think, yeah, I want to play in the Premier League. And i want to play in Premier League for a club that is but its going places. a Newcastle United over the last couple of seasons are going places, but they are not going to win the Premier League. They're not going to win the Champions League.
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um um And so I think the big challenge for a club like Newcastle is that they will face similar situations like this because they cannot attract a finished article Alexander-Izac.
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They can't. they can attract an Alexander Isak where he was a couple of seasons ago, which is a player that wants to come to Premier League, prove himself and move on to a bigger club.
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And that's the challenge that they've got. that's the That's the difficulty that clubs like Newcastle have in trying to break into category of the Premier League where they can genuinely fight for the title.
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Now there are just 11 days left until the transfer window slams shut and you know for the clubs to work out a deal. Otherwise, Isaac faces really the nightmare scenario of staying at Newcastle after agitating to leave and then having to reintegrate himself into that team, get up so up to speed, playing Premier League football after effectively missing out a whole pre-season.
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And all of that in a World Cup year. You know, we're, you know we're running up to leading up to the next World Cup and every player that has any ambition at all to make it on that flight to go to the US or to go to America and to play in the World Cup.
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They want to play week in, week out, and they want to be firing on all cylinders ahead of that tournament in the summer.
Impact of FIFA's Article 17
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Now, there is also an intriguing element to this saga, which may or may not come into effect.
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And that is the new FIFA rule, which is known as Article 17, which gives a player the right to unilaterally cancel their contract.
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If the contract unilaterally, inhibiting the player's freedom of movement. And this was, I think, a couple of years ago, a ruling by the Court of Justice in the European union Union, essentially coming to the conclusion that footballers deserve rights similar to everyone else, basically. Any kind of normal worker who wants to switch jobs, what do we do? We just resign, work out a notice period, and we and we move on.
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Now, how this is implemented in in football, I think is going to be really interesting to see how this plays out, because this could radically change the football landscape. It could radically change the way transfers are handled.
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It could radically change the whole way in which football clubs are structured. in terms of player a recruitment. Now, there are caveats to this and and there is also the fact that they there are Premier League rules to follow. But I think it's something that's worth bearing in mind. And I'm sure that all the parties involved in this particular deal with Alexander Isak both the clubs, Liverpool, Newcastle, and in particular, as Alexandra Isaacs Camp, are going to be fully aware of this Article 17 and, you know, its kind of potential ramifications.
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So I don't know whether whether this is going to lead to that or whether it can. But I think it's something that we may see more of, and you know, in in the years ahead.
Salah's PFA Award & Leadership
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OK, that's Alexander Isak. Let's talk a little bit about his potential strike partner who he could team up with in the next few weeks.
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And that is Mohamed Salah, who picked up yet another PFA Players Player of the Year award for the season. season No surprise, it was a phenomenal season from the Egyptian.
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He just keeps producing. And think he was instrumental. The spearhead of Liverpool's title charge last season.
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He's the one i think who i think really took that season and took the team by the scruff of the neck and said, look, Yes, Jurgen Klopp has left.
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Yes, we've not signed any players. But we've got the players to do this. And I think... It was his performances, particularly in that first half of the season, which I think instilled the belief in the rest of the team, particularly the the the players that hadn't won the league.
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So, yes, the likes of Salah, Alison Becker, Virgil van Dijk, Trent Alexander-Arnold... Andy Robertson, all of these guys have have won the league with Liverpool.
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And so you you had this kind of core spine of the team, you know, half the playing 11 that had won the league and the belief was always going to be there. But I think for the rest of them, the likes of...
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the the likes of our, some of our forward players like Cody Gakpo, Luis Diaz, Diogo Jota, God bless him.
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All of these players and and many more Gravenberg, McAllister, even though he's won a world cup, and he hasn't won a premier league. And I think that that just instilled the belief in those players that,
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They can look around and in every department of the team, whether it's in goal, in defence or up top, we have got proven winners that can do this for us.
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So and it's quite remarkable that at his age, he's still producing games. not just these performances, but the consistent level of performance, is still leading the team to major honours. And he looks as hungry as ever to to keep on producing.
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And you have to wonder, you know, what does this man have to do in order to win Ballon d'Or? know, we've been in situations where we've we've been two games away from a quadruple and it still hasn't been enough.
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And it's I think it's scandalous that he hasn't got at least two or three games. Ballon d'Or is under his belt. But not having won, it's just absurd. is totally absurd.
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But so look, irrespective yeah whether he wins one or not, I think for us as Liverpool liverpool fans, it doesn't diminish him in in the slightest.
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I would rather, and I'm pretty sure he would rather win another Premier League or a Champions League winner's medal than a Ballon d'Or. So if he wins one, great.
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If he doesn't, you know, as long as he's performing for us, I think that's the most important thing. OK, it's time for a quick break. And after that, we'll return and we'll talk Liverpool and Newcastle and the legends of the game that have played for both clubs.
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Okay, welcome back.
Liverpool-Newcastle Player History
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So Newcastle, Liverpool, you know, they've been and in each other's kind of crosshairs, it seems. For a while now, Newcastle obviously beat the Reds at Wembley in that League Cup final to give that give the Geordies the League Cup win and their first trophy in about 200 years or something like that.
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And now we're locked in this summer long standoff over star striker Alexander Isak. Now, if he does join Liverpool in the coming days before that transfer window closes,
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He will join an illustrious list of great players that have worn the red shirt of Liverpool and the black and white stripes of Newcastle United. So we'll go through some of those players. Now, this is not an exhaustive list.
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So... Please don't trash me on social media if I miss out on some, you know, obscure left black left back who played for both clubs in 1922 or something.
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So these are going to be some of the big names that come up in the history of both clubs. So let's start with player that...
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wore the number seven jersey and he wore it with such distinction that I guess it really started the club's love affair with that number.
Kevin Keegan's Dual Impact
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And ever since then, you'd have to say that for Liverpool Football Club, number seven is the iconic number at the club. And that player was Kevin Keegan.
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And long before there was a King Kenny, it was King Kev was the... ah ah He was the kind of jewel in the crown for Bill Shankly's legendary team of of the 70s.
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He was signed from Scunthorpe. So, you know, it was it was in that era where great, great players could be, you know, could be kind of unearthed in the lower leagues.
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And... A fantastic striker. know, he was he was quite short, he was quite slight, and he formed a legendary partnership with John Toshak, who was really big and he was he was your typical.
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kind of British football target man up front. And so you had this kind of little and large partnership up front and it worked a treat. Liverpool were absolutely dominant in that era under Bill Shankly.
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He played 323 times for Liverpool and scored 100 goals. And he won three league titles. One FA Cup famously scoring against his beloved Newcastle United in 1974.
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Two UEFA Cups or Europa Leagues, if you want to use the modern terminology. And one you wrote a European Cup or one Champions League. And that European Cup win was his last game at the club before leaving go abroad to German club Hamburg.
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And, you know, it was... I think that was quite emblematic of the kind of player that he was. know, he was a he was a trailblazer in many, many sense, because a lot of players, they would never think of leaving these shores in England to play ah abroad, particularly back in the 70s and the 80s.
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And so for him to leave and particularly to leave at his peak and go and try something different, something abroad, I think, testament to the kind of character he was.
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And he won what was then the European Football of the Year Award. I think he won, which is now the Ballon d'Or. He won it twice in a row, if I'm not mistaken, one at Liverpool and one at Hamburg, I think is possibly quite unprecedented.
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And he was arguably England's kind of first superstar footballer. He was one of that first wave of modern players who really took his kind of physical conditioning seriously. I mean, he was absolutely ripped. If you look at pictures of or footage of Kevin Keegan, you know, he was a supremely physically fit footballer and he wouldn't look out a place in the modern game.
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He's also really well known for his his stint at Newcastle, first as a player the early 80s when he he went down a division to kind of help them to come back up to the top flight.
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And then he moved into management and his stint as manager in the 1990s is a legendary stint for Newcastle United fans.
Entertaining 90s Newcastle Team?
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And I would argue for most football fans, particularly most Premier League English football fans, that team, that Newcastle team, what a team it was. And they were known as the entertainers.
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You know, you had the likes of David Shinola, that you had Les Ferdinand, Peter Beardsley, Andy Cole, before he moved on to to Manchester United, Alan Shearer, Atino Aspira, you know, great, great players.
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really, really gifted players. And they were so, so close to winning the league. They should have won the league. They really should have won the league. And one of the things that I find really interesting, I find it quite sad, and I think it's really quite harsh, is that there's a generation of fans that only know Kevin Keegan because of that famous rant at Alex Ferguson.
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in that title running, in that title running that season where they blew the lead. I think they were 12 points ahead of Manchester United in that season where they should have won the league. And United just kind of clawed them back. And, you know, Newcastle, they just, they did slowly collapse. and And we, Liverpool played a hand in that, that famous 4-3 game at Anfield.
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and And I just find that really sad because he was so much more than that. Sky TV rant. It just seems that his whole career, his whole achievement has been kind of reduced to this, you know, this television spectacle.
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And as I said, he was just so much more than that. He was a Liverpool legend. He's a Newcastle legend. He was he was a distinguished England captain. He won every single major honour at club level, whether it was the the FA Cup, the league title.
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at the Champions League or the European Cup. He won the Ballon d'Or. He went abroad. Great player and and and an England legend. And know that Liverpool supporters and and and Newcastle supporters obviously him as much more But another player linked to both clubs and linked to Kevin Keegan as well is Terry McDermott,
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affectionately known as Terry Mack, swashbuckling midfielder, 329 appearances for liverpool eighty one goals And look at this honours roll.
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He won four league titles with Liverpool. He won the League Cup twice. He won the UEFA Cup once. He won the UEFA Super Cup once. And he won the European Cup three times.
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What a player. What a player. An all-action midfielder. A phenomenal engine on him. He'd be running up and down that pitch the whole 90 minutes.
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And... he just scored so many great goals and important goals. He scored in the European Cup final in 77, the first one that Liverpool won, you know, kind of typical McDermott goal bursting through the middle from midfield, know, unmarked, ah ah ghosting into the midfield and latching onto a ball, you know, and just dispatching it into the bottom corner like ah like a striker.
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And there's another goal that you do well to YouTube because it's ah ah just a great goal. And this is, I can't remember what year it is. It's kind of mid 80s, early to mid 80s, maybe 83, 84.
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It's a sixth round FA Cup tie against Spurs. And it's just an absolute worldy of a goal that you just don't see very often these days.
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in this kind of
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the kind of football that we watch is that there's always a, almost a ah ah desire to create the perfect goal, want to almost kind of pass it into the, into the back of the net from like six yards out or six inches out.
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And you see less of these kind of attempts from outside or some really kind of weird angles. And this is one of those goals that I think that you, you won't have seen very often.
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But he was a ah ah fantastic player and he actually played in the in the FA Cup final. Again, this is this kind of weird connection between Liverpool Newcastle, weird connection between players like Terry McDermott and Kevin Keegan.
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So Kevin Keegan, a Newcastle fan, but he played in that 1974 FA Cup final against Newcastle. We won that, was it three one or 3-0? And in the opposition team playing for Newcastle that day was Terry McDermott.
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And Liverpool ah ah signed him in 1974 after that FA Cup final. And, know, he just went on to become a...
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an integral part of a great, great Liverpool team, a series of great Liverpool teams. You know, you played with the likes of Graeme Souness, Ray Kennedy, Steve Highway, some great, great midfielders, Jimmy Case.
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And he's so, so fondly remembered. And then he came back with Kevin Keegan and joined him as an assistant when the pair returned to manage Newcastle United in the nineteen ninety s So, you know, he's someone that's got deep connections to both clubs.
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Another player that has played for both clubs, Alan Kennedy. left back. You know, again, he played in that Newcastle final in 1974 before Bob Paisley signed him in in 1978 for Newcastle, he had 158 appearances, nine goals, which is not too bad for a for a fullback back then. And then if you look at his Liverpool record, 359 appearances, goals as
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And they were, some of them were some really, really big goals. I mean, he scored decisive goals. He scored in the European Cup final in Paris against Real Madrid open play.
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Liverpool won 1-0 and he was the one that got the winner late on. I think it was like 78, 80 minutes. And then he scored the decisive penalty in the penalty shootout in the 1984 European Cup final against Roma in Rome.
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know, a marauding left back. You know, we talk about how modern fullbacks are seen as, you know, they're seen as part of the... attack as well as the defence but you look back then the likes of Alan Kennedy and Phil Neal right back they were scoring goals and a real threat up front and and Alan Kennedy is is just one of those players again has has a real history with with with both clubs
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moving back into midfield, Peter Beardsley, we're coming back now into the 80s and then the in the 90s now. Peter Beardsley was...
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was He was at what, an attacking midfielder, maybe a number 10 or a second striker. He played for Newcastle United 129 times, 47 goals.
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And here's that link again with with Kevin Keegan, forming a partnership with an aging Kevin Keegan back then. And I think that was, I'm pretty sure that was in the second division.
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And then he signed by Kenny Dalgleish. in 1987 to join Liverpool as part of a really kind of an exciting rebuild of the attacking lineup that 1980s Liverpool team. So it was quite a brave move by Kenny Dalgleish.
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And he brought in Peter Beardsley, he brought in John Barnes and he brought in John Aldridge. And that trio just clicked immediately and absolutely tore up defences in that period of English football, you know, dominated the game in England.
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There was that really famous 5-0 win over Nottingham Forest. A really tricky player, short and slight, but great feet, great vision. 175 appearances of for Liverpool, 59 goals, two league titles, one FA Cup.
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You do wonder, there was no European football for English clubs because of the Heysel ban. You do wonder what the likes of Beardsley, John Barnes, John Aldridge, would have done to European opposition if they were playing.
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So yeah that that's a kind of real shame that they didn't get to experience European football. And then we move into ah ah late 90s, into the 2000s, and you have a a young Michael Owen.
Michael Owen's Career Highlights
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I mean, he just exploded onto the scene in English football as a 17-year-old under Roy Evans, when Roy Evans was was manager and just became an absolute goal machine alongside Robbie Fowler. He, you know,
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he He absolutely um lit up the 1998 World Cup as well when he was picked for England, scored that famous goal against Argentina. And, you know, he he appeared 297 times for Liverpool, scoring goals and one pretty much Won a lot, but not the Premier League.
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He won the FA Cup once, the UEFA Cup once, League Cup twice, UEFA Super Cup once. There was a great season in 2001 where that Gerard-Hulia team, you know, was really going in places and ended up second in the league and won all of those Cups twice.
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And that there was that famous final against Arsenal, which is still known now known as the as the Owen final, because Arsenal absolutely tore us to shreds in that final. We were just nowhere.
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And we're 1-0 down, and out of nowhere, Owen equalises...
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And then late on in the game, the second goal is the one that really kind of epitomized what kind of striker he was. Left foot finds the bottom corner against England goalkeeper David Seaman and just, you single handedly won us that final.
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Won the Ballon d'Or in 2001 and then 2004 moves to Real Madrid. And after one season, he's back in English football. He wanted to return to Liverpool.
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Liverpool weren't prepared to pay the asking price and Newcastle stepped in and Owen joined up with Alan Shearer to try and you know recreate their english their ah England partnership.
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But injuries, I think, blighted his time there and subsequently in other clubs as well. Managed 26 goals in 71 appearances, which, to be fair, is not too bad, is it, really?
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And then we come up to Andy Carroll. I'm going to put Andy Carroll in. I think it's a significant one. I don't think, obviously, he didn't turn out to be a great success for us, but I think it was it's significant.
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He was at Newcastle United between 2006-2011, 80 appearances, 31 goals. And then he moves to Liverpool in a record fee, £35 million. pounds We also signed Luis Suarez after selling Fernando Torres.
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And I think it's significant because this was... This was the first real kind of major signing along with Suarez under the new owners FSG. You know, Andy Carroll, he was a Dalglish signing.
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But then you can see how the club's recruitment strategy developed over time to reflect more of a ah ah kind of money ball approach. You know, on paper, Andy Carroll would have ticked a lot of boxes.
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He was young, um know, possibly a high ceiling in terms of development. he was too injury prone and the game was changing and evolving and evolving away from that kind of traditional big target man that we were so used to seeing in English football. so he managed only six goals in 44 appearances.
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He went back to Newcastle in 2019 and then Strig and other clubs as well. And so it wasn't a great success, but I do think that that was that was a significant moment for Liverpool Football Club in the modern era.
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And there have been other players and managers that have been involved at both clubs, John Barnes, Ian Rush, Dietmar Hamann, to name but a few.
Upcoming Liverpool vs Newcastle Fixture
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And in much the same way that King Kenny replaced King Kev at Anfield, In their playing days, it was only fitting that it was Dalgleish that took over from Kevin Keegan at St James' Park when Keegan left the club in 1997. So lots of links between the two clubs, lots of shared history between the two clubs.
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And, you know, who knows, before the end of the month, there may be another player that joins the Reds that has a connection to Newcastle United.
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Watch this space. But that is all for today. you've been You've been listening to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. We'll be back tomorrow as we look ahead to our next Premier League fixture, which is away to Newcastle United. I'll be with Erby White to preview that game.
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