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Welcome to Destination Change, a podcast where we talk recovery, treatment, and more. I'm your host, Angie Fiedler-Sutton, with the National Behavioral Health Association of Providers. Our guest today is Jeffrey Kwomit. He is the Chief Executive Officer of the Connecticut Certification Board, a workforce development agency focused on the SUD prevention, treatment, recovery, and harm reduction industry. He is an internationally certified master's level addiction counselor and clinic supervisor. Knowles Credentials is a certified nonprofit executive and certified nonprofit consultant. is an expert trainer, as well as a podcaster and author. Welcome to you to Destination Change, Jeff. Thanks, Sam. Glad to be here. Awesome. Now, my first question is pretty much the same for everybody. How did you get into the recovery space? Why that versus all the other job options that are out there?