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EPISODE 68 - PATRIOTS WIN. PREPARING FOR TEXANS.
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Wild Card Triumph: Patriots vs. Chargers
00:00:00
Savage Boston
Hi guys, welcome back. We're here with the Savage Boston Podcast. It is January 13th, 2026 on at night and we are coming off a a pretty exciting, albeit I think the only game that other than the last night, I should say that covered, or at least was more than 10 points.
00:00:20
Savage Boston
i don't know about cover, not even a gambling guy that much, but, um but yeah, so long long story short, it was, it was one of the few games that was not ridiculously close leading up to that, that matchup.
00:00:33
Savage Boston
Every single game was, was insane. The whole weekend was really, really tense, really exciting, but,
00:00:37
Snooty
Bye.
00:00:39
Savage Boston
um, yeah, man, to have the paths come in and, and, and get the W and the wildcard. It's just, it's so refreshing. Um, officially we're, we're back. Um, we've been saying it for weeks, we were back, but now are we feel officially back and, uh, and yeah, you know, some some hiccups in the game, some interesting stuff to go through and how they played, but,
00:01:02
Savage Boston
You know, ultimately, nothing else matters except the W. Nothing matters. I don't care what you say. Nothing matters. and and And I'm stoked. So, again, we're here tonight. We got Snooty Boston, as usual. We're not here. Brett had to bow out tonight. So we got friend of the pod, Pats Pro.
00:01:19
Savage Boston
What's up, Pats Pro? How you doing?
00:01:21
PatsPro
I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. It's been far too long since you've allowed me to grace this podcast, so I appreciate it.
00:01:29
Savage Boston
Yes, yes. this is ah yeah this is This is big time, man, too. This is this playoffs. This crunch time. So, ah yeah, so I think, you know, where we should get started is just just everyone's initial take from from the game.
00:01:35
PatsPro
Absolutely.
00:01:43
Savage Boston
And, Suni, why don't you kick it off? What was your initial takeaway? as We were both there in person, by the way, which was incredible. So, good times. But give me give me your initial take.
00:01:53
Snooty
So my couple big takeaways I had were being there, the the crowd, the place was amped. I mean, they opened the they opened the parking lots at 3, which is like an hour earlier than they were supposed to, because I think there were just like 1,000 cars just on Route 1 there. I think the state, he said, ah, fuck it, and just started letting people in.
00:02:11
Snooty
um the The crowd was into it.
00:02:11
Savage Boston
It was banged out.
00:02:13
Snooty
They were juiced the whole game, um even when it got a little dicey there towards the middle. um So, you know, it was good. i haven't heard it that loud since probably that Jaguars AFC championship game was the last time i remember I remember it being that, you know, that juice, that loud. um It's been a long time. So, you know, I i think that's part of it. But i again, it's been a long time. So I think people are starting to lose.
00:02:36
Snooty
like, context that like winning in the playoffs is usually ugly. It's usually close. A lot of gross plays. The other team gets paid to make plays too. They're usually a good team. Um, you know, it's not going to be perfect. It's not going to be pretty, but like, it doesn't matter. You just have to win. Like it, it doesn't matter.
00:02:52
Snooty
Um, so, I mean, I think that was my biggest takeaway is that like, you know, they got the wind. They kind of, I mean, they didn't dominate dominate, but they they kind of controlled that game from start to finish.
00:02:58
Savage Boston
Got to win.
00:03:04
Snooty
it Well, not the beginning, but it after the very first couple drives, they kind of felt like they were in control for a lot of the game.
00:03:07
PatsPro
Thank
00:03:12
Snooty
I didn't feel good live at at half, but, you know, I'm also very pessimistic during the game. um But I mean, yeah, I mean, a good win. They got a win. validates a lot of things. They won.
00:03:22
Savage Boston
True pass pro.
Patriots' Defensive Mastery
00:03:24
Savage Boston
How'd you feel?
00:03:25
PatsPro
ah Well, just to, you know, preface this, I was watching at home because, you know, I don't have season tickets and people make me feel bad. My my good friends online, you know, they they just make me feel bad. It's fine.
00:03:37
PatsPro
ah No, ah to be honest, I felt a lot like Snooty. um I'm also, if anyone follows me during the games, knows I'm a just a bit pessimistic, especially regarding one Carlton Davis. We'll get to him, I'm sure. but um Yeah, halftime, I was like, ooh, I don't know. Just, you Drake needs to needs to turn it on.
00:04:01
PatsPro
And, I mean, it wasn't perfect. It was really, really ugly at times. But to use ah another gambling adage, good teams win, great teams cover.
00:04:13
PatsPro
And in the playoffs, you're you're good enough to win. You're great enough to cover. So i was I was very pleased in the result.
00:04:19
Savage Boston
Sure.
00:04:20
PatsPro
The defense specifically, I'm usually okay at understanding defensive concepts. Like, I'm not out there like, oh, yeah, this is definitely cover four. Like, I know what, like, ah a cover two or, you know, a man match or zone match looks like.
00:04:36
PatsPro
i I couldn't tell what the hell they were doing out there to generate such pressure and keep guys from getting open at the right times. I have no idea. The the defense was the story for me, and i was I left very impressed and feeling good with this team.
00:04:51
Savage Boston
Yeah, I mean, i guess I guess to go into it, for talking about good stuff first, right? um You know, what the defense did, I guess, with a lot of disguising coverage, it was like they really they really confused Herbert badly. I mean, they were, you know, having guys follow you across the field, but then settling into like a zone. Like it's it's it's kind of a newer way. You know, for years we talked about this.
00:05:15
Savage Boston
everyone was like, oh, you need motion. You need motion. You got to, they follow them in motion. Oh, it's man. And then, you know, now their defenses are structuring themselves in a way that it's not always man. Like you can motion them and then they fall back and it's like a cover two zone. And you're like, oh shit. It's like Herbert got, they they had no, they had no answers.
00:05:36
Savage Boston
You know what i mean? and And that's why they, the Chargers fired what Greg Roman, they fired their offensive coordinator today.
00:05:41
Snooty
Mm-hmm.
00:05:41
Savage Boston
Today they fired him because they know, they watched the tape.
00:05:43
PatsPro
and their O-line coach as well, more importantly.
00:05:44
Savage Boston
They're like, Dude, you you couldn't, there were no answers for the Patriots defense. It was excellent coaching. Great calls by Zach Kerr. You know, good job. um Great structure of the defense by Vrabel and I'm sure Terrell Williams in there, you know, contributing, but great, great structure.
00:06:03
Savage Boston
And I guess I'm really impressed by how they disguised it. Like, I didn't think the Chargers would do that well, but I had to score more in the 24-21 range,
00:06:14
Savage Boston
not a three point performance by the chargers like that to me is a real like they really shit the bed on that one so um you know that fan base they can make excuses their tackles are out whatever but like this is herbert's oh and three in the postseason and i said this too like pressure wasn't necessarily on drake may the pressure was on justin herbert like justin herbert is supposed to be he's a six-year guy he's established getting 60 million he's oh and three now in the playoffs so you know that to me like you gotta to
00:06:45
Savage Boston
He's going to find some answers there. But as far as the Patriots, the defense was outstanding. How they structured it was outstanding. um I thought the effort from, you know, the defensive tackles are is awesome. I mean, Barmore Milton Williams are great players.
00:07:02
Savage Boston
The edge rolls, like, i know Chase on had two sacks, but, like, they don't – they don't control the game like those dominant D tackles do.
00:07:06
PatsPro
What if it was as a covered check?
00:07:11
Savage Boston
Like it's not, it's not quite the same.
00:07:12
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:07:13
Savage Boston
Like you're still, you're still really in the market for a dominant edge player. Like that's, that's one of the biggest things you can get. So anyway, that's my positives. How did you, how'd you guys feel about the defense?
00:07:23
Snooty
Yeah, I mean, if they're going to go on any type of run, they need Williams and Barmore to dominate like they did. And hopefully they get Tonga back this week. don't know how much he'll be, you know, playing coming off, what, three weeks out?
00:07:33
Snooty
Something like that. But, you know, you I mean, it's cliche, you know, Grable, I guess, said it all week that, like, the big dogs come out in January or whatever.
00:07:34
Savage Boston
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:41
Snooty
But, like, Milton Williams and Christian Barmore played like that. And, like, If you're going to beat teams, that's how you're going to do it. You don't have premier edge players. You're going to beat up on, because the looking ahead, the Texans don't have a great O-line.
00:07:55
Snooty
oh why It's not as bad as the Chargers.
00:07:56
Savage Boston
Mm-mm.
00:07:57
Snooty
Let me make that clear. But it's not like – it's nothing crazy.
00:07:59
PatsPro
They got Trent Brown playing right tackle.
00:08:00
Snooty
And it's so it's like, again, I would be looking for the same type of thing. I'd be like, you guys have to dominate in the middle. Get him off his spot. Get him moving. Right? Like that's that's what you're going to have to do um if they're going to have any type of success.
00:08:12
Snooty
I mean, I also think they match their corners a little bit more than they had before, which I think helps. A guy like Davis, I think it's – he's –
00:08:24
Snooty
And similar to Gonzalez, I think he's miscast and as a zone corner a little bit more. But these are the times where, especially against a team like the Chargers, like and even Houston too, like if you get where they have one or two kind of receivers that you can match up on, and you can just say, you have him, you have him. like that That can really, really help with defense. And it it obviously, you know they played really well.
00:08:45
Snooty
um But even, was it char shot was is it shot you woods is it Sean Woods that came in?
00:08:51
Savage Boston
Charles was
00:08:52
PatsPro
Charles Woods.
00:08:52
Snooty
Charles Woods. Charles Woods. When he came in, um even he played well in the fourth quarter down the stretch there. So, I mean, it's the Chargers, but, I mean, the Chargers also won 11 games.
00:09:03
Snooty
So, it's not like there's some, you know scrub team. And Herbert's supposed to be all everything, so...
00:09:07
PatsPro
No, they're not a bunch of slappies.
00:09:09
Savage Boston
that defense is their defense is pretty real as well. Like they, they got some players on their defense. I just throw it before I let you go, Patsborough. I throw it out about um their their edge, OA, had three sacks, and he's an unrestricted free agent. I'm sure they're going try to sign him, but i'm just saying currently he's an and unrestricted free agent. you know So that kid was a stud. He played really well. So, yeah, Patsborough, how did you feel about like the defense and the the good? What's the positive about the game?
00:09:36
PatsPro
So for me, I'm going to do a bit of shameless self-promotion and reference my now most liked tweet ever um from was it yesterday yesterday.
00:09:49
PatsPro
um The thing to remember about this game is the Chargers wanted the Patriots. They saw the Patriots as a favorable matchup. They arrested everyone in week 18.
00:09:56
Savage Boston
That's true.
00:09:58
PatsPro
They scored three points. it's pretty pretty disgusting. like I don't think there there is any better of an encapsulation of how good this defense was than the Chargers wanted this smoke.
00:10:13
PatsPro
They got it. They scored three points. They were stopped in the red zone. They didn't see the red zone again. Well,
00:10:20
Snooty
Mm-hmm.
Comparing the Texans and Chargers
00:10:21
PatsPro
besides the the scoring drive, but you get what I mean.
00:10:24
PatsPro
um Specifically with Carlton Davis, He's a man corner. He's not his own corner. He gets cooked consistently in zone. I don't know what it is. i don't know if he doesn't understand the role, but when he's in man, more often than not, he's pretty okay.
00:10:38
PatsPro
He's not Christian Gonzalez, and dear Lord, may we have Christian Gonzalez back for the next game, but he did okay. The one person on this defense that I don't think is talked about enough, Christian Ellis.
00:10:52
PatsPro
There was that one play where he was able to fly across the field. Vidal, I think, caught the pass and was on the sideline. And Ellis was just right there to hit him. Now Vidal got a couple more yards, but he could have been gone.
00:11:08
PatsPro
And Christian Ellis has just been flying around the field for this team since really like the Giants game, I think was his real like coming out party. And he's just been excellent for this team.
00:11:20
Savage Boston
yeah I think it's so funny to the matchup and I know we'll, we'll kind of bounce around and and it's not like we're going to get it in a purely structured podcast way, but just because you just spoke about the Texans for a minute, doesn't just feel like they're kind of similar to the chargers?
00:11:39
Snooty
Yeah.
00:11:39
Snooty
He is.
00:11:39
Savage Boston
You know what I mean?
00:11:39
Savage Boston
Like, like when you look at the structure of the team, it's like okay O line and okay. Quarterback. I, I, Stroud is probably worse than Herbert.
00:11:51
Savage Boston
He's playing worse than Herbert.
00:11:51
PatsPro
He's definitely worse than Herbert.
00:11:52
PatsPro
I don't trust him as far as I can throw him.
00:11:54
Savage Boston
I don't trust what Stroud's been doing. mean, maybe he gets a couple touchdowns in this game and gets there, but like I don't trust what Stroud's been doing.
00:12:01
PatsPro
Even like the littlest bit of pressure.
00:12:01
Savage Boston
Pittsburgh is by was by far the most ass team in the postseason. Pittsburgh was ass. And, man, they struggled. That offense could not move against Pittsburgh.
00:12:12
Savage Boston
Like, he looked like shit.
00:12:12
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:12:14
Snooty
The Texans, as compared to the Chargers, have a worse quarterback, a better old line, with Nico Collins, probably better receivers, without probably worse.
00:12:27
Snooty
um Running back with Hampton Hurt, probably call it even. um And their defense is obviously better. It's definitely better than the Chargers defense.
00:12:38
Snooty
Chargers... can
00:12:38
Savage Boston
But I could see that offense like just struggling, though, against the Patriots.
00:12:42
Savage Boston
like I could see them really struggling to move the ball.
00:12:43
Snooty
Yeah, I know they have the the game, or more gambling, the the game has the lowest total going in for this weekend. um And it's like a lot lower than the other ones, like five or six points lower than the others.
00:12:57
Snooty
And I don't think it's really much of a stretch that it's they're going to hit the under again.
00:12:57
PatsPro
Jeez.
00:12:58
Savage Boston
Wow.
00:13:02
Snooty
i mean, it's two defenses with, i don't know, I feel better about this game than most.
00:13:02
PatsPro
I'd say that's fair.
00:13:08
Snooty
I just feel like first playoff game, Got a lot of, like, the jitters out. O-line, lot of, I think was 29 players got their first playoff experience last week.
00:13:21
Snooty
That's a lot, right? Like, that's ah that's a shitload. And it's not just, like, you know guys on the roster. It's, like, at premier positions got their first playoff experience at home, primetime game, you know, all that. Like, I think a lot of those nerves are going to be out. And you've seen it from, certainly from May, but you've seen it from Campbell to the similar extent that, like, They have a shit game and then they kind of bounce back.
00:13:43
Snooty
You know what I mean? And like, I just feel like they're not going to be as bad as they were last week offensively. um Perhaps they won't be as good defensively as they were last week, but I feel like the defense is actually starting to get a little bit healthy. You know, if Gonzalez is back, they're starting to get healthier. Spillane came back last week. Landry, who didn't do anything, came back last week. They should have Tonga back this week. Like, and and I feel like the offense will be better. I have...
00:14:10
Snooty
I have the Patriots winning. I mean, spoiler, but I think it'll still be a rock fight.
00:14:15
Savage Boston
How dare you?
00:14:15
Snooty
It'll be a close game. But like, i i I am more positive on them than most at this point for this week.
00:14:22
PatsPro
Yeah, for me, um I mean, if we're just going to get into predictions right away, i i have the Patriots winning. I'm not going to give a score. I'm not that smart. Yeah, yeah,
00:14:32
Savage Boston
We'll give scores at the end. We'll give scores at the end.
00:14:34
PatsPro
ah So give me time to think about it.
00:14:35
Savage Boston
Stay tuned.
00:14:36
PatsPro
Perfect. But um here's how I feel about it. no one no one like No one freaks me out anymore. like We've been hearing this since the the Browns. Oh, yeah you got Miles Garrett. That defense is flying around. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:14:51
PatsPro
They tore him the fuck up. ah did Last week, oh, you've got these great tackles. And yeah, they were shaky. They found the way to win. And that's what matters in this league. i'm I'm sorry.
00:15:02
PatsPro
I'm just, I'm done with the, oh my God, they're good. The Daniel Hunter and, and whoever the other, way who was the other guy?
00:15:12
Snooty
Will Anderson.
00:15:12
PatsPro
Will Anderson, Will Anderson.
00:15:12
Snooty
anderson
00:15:14
PatsPro
Oh my God. Oh, they're going to tear us. No, you have a competent offensive coordinator. You have more, um a better than average ah offensive line unit.
00:15:25
PatsPro
And you have the MVP. you're going to do some things. Now, yeah, will he you know miss a read or take a sack that he shouldn't?
00:15:37
PatsPro
Sure. Who doesn't? Tom Brady at his best took sacks that he shouldn't have. He missed th throws. every no No one is perfect. But you have the MVP of the league.
00:15:47
PatsPro
You have a really, honestly, a really good offensive line unit comparatively to last year. and you And receivers-wise, you're not the best in the league, but you could certainly be worse.
00:16:01
PatsPro
i I'm not afraid. And from a defensive perspective, C.J. Stroud last night it felt the the tiniest little bit of pressure and decided, oh, God, I've got to get rid of it. Let me sidearm this throw on the move right into the hands of a Steelers defender.
00:16:21
PatsPro
And there was barely anyone around him. He just gets spooked. I'm sorry. I'm not scared. I'm just not.
00:16:28
Savage Boston
Yeah, i mean, doesn't it weird people out or not weirded out? It's the wrong term. Like, isn't it? Isn't it funny that it feels like the Chargers, the Texans, even the Broncos are all kind of similar. I just they I view them as like similar structured teams.
00:16:44
Savage Boston
Maybe the Broncos just have a better old line. than the others, but like, they're still similarly structured with like kind of mediocre or Herbert's the best one out of them, but like not great quarterbacks and like really elite defenses.
00:16:50
Snooty
Mm-hmm.
00:16:56
Savage Boston
And that's how they've won a lot of games. And so, ah Herbert, to me, is the best out of Stroud and Bo Nix. That's for certain there. I don't know. Do you trust Bo Nix?
00:17:07
Savage Boston
I'm not like Mr.
00:17:07
PatsPro
Not remotely.
00:17:08
Savage Boston
Bo Nix. I don't.
00:17:09
PatsPro
Not remotely.
00:17:09
Savage Boston
So, anyway, the structuring is funny. Like, the Steelers were an anomaly. Like, I don't – God knows how they were. And the only team, though, and this should make – nervous, again, wrong word is nervous. The only team the AFC that's structured differently is the Buffalo Bills.
00:17:24
Snooty
They're more closely structured to the Patriots.
00:17:24
Savage Boston
So –
00:17:27
Snooty
Rely on the quarterback on offense to elevate lesser talent everywhere, have a decent O-line, and have a defense that can be hot or cold.
00:17:30
PatsPro
Not many weapons.
00:17:33
Savage Boston
Yeah.
00:17:36
Snooty
Right? Like, it's like,
00:17:36
Savage Boston
the Yeah. The Patriots defense, i would argue, obviously is better than the bills.
00:17:39
Snooty
yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:39
Savage Boston
de But yeah, it's like, they're just like, we have a superstar quarterback. We believe he's going elevate us. And so far they've been like pretty right for most, most they've had a lot of success.
00:17:51
Savage Boston
Obviously not all the time.
00:17:51
PatsPro
Well, it's it's a tried and true formula.
00:17:53
Savage Boston
Every postseason.
00:17:53
PatsPro
It just is.
00:17:55
Savage Boston
But it's a total ah flip team. So I think that's going to weird game. like yeah Again, like bill's ah Bill's Broncos is going to be a fascinating game. But um yeah, to limit it back in. So let's go to let's go just to touch on the negative about the game we just watched.
Patriots' Offensive Line Concerns
00:18:11
Savage Boston
like What are they going to do about the offensive line? like What are they going to do about Campbell and Jared Wilson like if they're getting eaten alive?
00:18:21
Savage Boston
Like, cause I don't think they're making any switches in the game. Like I could maybe see Jared Wilson getting removed for Ben Brown if, if he truly is struggling, but I guess he was run blocking.
00:18:27
PatsPro
for Ben Brown. Yeah.
00:18:33
Savage Boston
Well, same with Campbell, they both like run block pretty well, but they just got torched in the passing game. So, you know, I mean, again, you you guys tell me, what are they going to do? What are they going to do on the offensive line?
00:18:45
Snooty
I would look for some improvement from Wilson just by the fact that it's not his first game back in two weeks. And again, like I said before, it's not their first playoff game now. Right.
00:18:54
Savage Boston
Yeah.
00:18:55
Snooty
Three o'clock kickoff, a little bit different, little bit of different feeling. I know the crowd should still be into it and all that. But like, i don't know, you get that first one out like you ever, you know, whenever you played football, like the first kind of game, the first time you play like a real.
00:19:08
Snooty
you play varsity or whatever, like you're a little nervous, you got a little, you know, may not be your best game.
00:19:11
PatsPro
Go to Jitters.
00:19:12
Snooty
And then you kind of go, okay, well flush it. That one's done. I have a feeling that's what it's going to be like. I think a lot of those nerves and a lot of that stuff is gone. The familiarity will be there. And I think, um, especially for Wilson, it might even, well, I don't know.
00:19:26
Snooty
I mean, they have a pretty good defensive tackle core, but it was going to say might be slightly better matchup for Wilson than it was for, um than it was for him against the chargers.
00:19:36
Snooty
Um, I don't know. I mean, I think I would look for just improvement that way. i also think they're going to scheme it up a little bit better than they did before. I also think they're going to really try to run the ball.
00:19:48
Snooty
I have a feeling they're really, really going to try to run the ball this week. um Settle everything down. It's the fastest way to slow down a pass rush is to punch them in the mouth and just get going. It's also the easiest way to settle a young old line down that' that's kind of struggling and stuff is just fucking run the ball.
00:20:01
PatsPro
Yeah, let him road grade a little bit.
00:20:03
Snooty
Bring in, what's it, Munson or whatever as the sixth alignment, the second tight end.
00:20:07
PatsPro
Munford.
00:20:08
Savage Boston
Taylor Munford.
00:20:10
Snooty
Munford, whatever his name is. Munford and Sons. um Bring him in and and as the ah ah second tight end and just kind of lean on him a little bit It's the fastest way to get him going. I like Ramondre Stevenson in a game like this because he's big, he's physical, he can actually kind of wear down the defense a little bit.
00:20:28
Snooty
You know what i mean? Beat him up little bit, slow him down a little bit, and then you know Henderson ah kind of dispel him a little bit more like that personally.
00:20:38
PatsPro
So for me, um what they're not going to do, um going against the advice of dear friend of the pod, Bryson, they're not going to put in Vidarian low.
00:20:42
Snooty
No.
00:20:49
Snooty
no
00:20:50
PatsPro
That's what they're not going to do. Anyone who advocates for that in Bryson, God love you. Love you so much. Anyone who advocates for that just does not know ball. I'm sorry. They just don't. So that's what they're not going to do now.
00:21:02
Savage Boston
is This is not, is this not going to happen?
00:21:04
PatsPro
No, it's not going to happen because Campbell isn't is a better player. What they are going?
00:21:09
Savage Boston
He is. And also Viderian low quite literally cannot run block whatsoever.
00:21:13
PatsPro
No, to save his life.
00:21:13
Savage Boston
i mean, if you just want him to be like a long arm cone, like he could do that.
00:21:18
PatsPro
Oh, yeah.
00:21:19
Savage Boston
um
00:21:19
Snooty
in spurts and not, yeah.
00:21:20
PatsPro
Yes, in spurts.
00:21:21
Savage Boston
inspirationson
00:21:21
PatsPro
He he can get beat.
00:21:23
Savage Boston
And I'll have false start.
00:21:25
PatsPro
Oh, he'll definitely have a full hell of a bunch of stuff. Anyways, so that's what they're not going to do. What they are going to do is specifically for Campbell, they're going to be so stunting a lot.
00:21:36
PatsPro
They're going to looking to give him help. um On his side, they're also going to be, i would think they're going to be trying to run behind him, actually, just to give him a chance to really get like Sunni was saying, get the dominance going and that way build his confidence and make it so they're going to have, you know, the defensive line is going to have a ah hard time.
00:22:00
PatsPro
you know, really rushing the passer if they think that he's going to start coming downhill at him. um I also think that the they need to figure out a way to get Stefan Diggs in motion to free him up.
00:22:13
PatsPro
because what the Chargers did the entire the entire time for that game is double and triple Stefan Diggs. They need to figure out a way to get Diggs outside of where he's set up with motion, have him start running before the snap, something.
Strategic Plays Against the Texans
00:22:28
PatsPro
Figure out a way to get him uncovered and get him an easy two or three yards that he can take upfield. I think that's the key. For me personally, that'll set a lot of things up in the pass game.
00:22:37
Savage Boston
I
00:22:40
Savage Boston
i mean, digs obviously be great to get digs involved. You still need Hunter Henry involved, obviously. um i just want to know what, what McDaniels answer is for, for the, the pressure and defense. It's not just the edge rushers that are, that are that good too. Like they have their linebackers really good. They have a really excellent corner. Their safety is like,
00:23:04
Savage Boston
one of the top safeties, like Petrie or whatever is like one of their top safeties in football. Like they got some elite people all over the place. Like that's the hard part is they're kind of, and I guess the report is they don't play a whole lot of complicated defense.
00:23:17
Savage Boston
They just run a lot of like base shit and they're like, yeah, we're just good.
00:23:21
PatsPro
They run their base defense a lot.
00:23:21
Savage Boston
It's not
00:23:21
Snooty
It's like the the old Seattle defense.
00:23:24
Savage Boston
what, like the replay, like a three zone, like a, like cover three, the whole game or something.
00:23:24
Snooty
He's going to roll.
00:23:28
PatsPro
And then let the four guys in front just torture your your offensive line.
00:23:32
Snooty
Yeah.
00:23:32
PatsPro
Honestly, they they don't do anything that's nuanced or exciting. They just beat the fucking shit out of you.
00:23:39
Savage Boston
Clearly, I mean, they have literally two top five edge rushers in football. I don't know how they got away with that, but Daniel Hunter is amazing.
00:23:42
PatsPro
Oh, yeah.
00:23:45
Savage Boston
He's been amazing. Let alone Will Anderson, who's – if you didn't have Myles Garrett, you'd say Will Anderson is probably one of the top defenders in football. i mean, he's still like if not the top, right?
00:23:54
PatsPro
Easily.
00:23:55
Savage Boston
Like Will Anderson is tremendous. He's a fantastic player. So I don't know what they're going to do. you have to run the football, although their D-line is really good. You've got to put in like six, seven O-linemen and be under center a lot.
00:24:08
Savage Boston
We're lot of play action. Hope you get to like 24 points. Again, that's a, you only got the 16 points against the chargers. I don't know if I would have told you, I think they win with 16 points, but how many, what can you, what can you get You know, I think you, you, you need to get to at least 21.
00:24:25
PatsPro
You need to get to 23.
00:24:25
Savage Boston
Like what can you, they give up an average of 17 a game.
00:24:26
PatsPro
You need to get
00:24:28
Savage Boston
So like, what can you get to against the Texans? 23.
00:24:31
PatsPro
you need to 23, in opinion.
00:24:34
Savage Boston
twenty three
00:24:35
Snooty
I was going to say 24 is probably where you want to get to. But I think – well, I don't know if you need to because I don't know how much respect you show to their offense. yeah You know?
00:24:45
Snooty
i mean I mean, it is still – they're not a dome, right? But they're a warm-weather team coming north, and it should be a lot colder Sunday than it was last Sunday, which –
00:24:56
PatsPro
Yeah, but Stroud has actually handled the cold weather quite well, historically.
00:25:02
Savage Boston
they
00:25:03
PatsPro
He's not really one of those. And I think they're dome team, aren't they? is that that roof retract?
00:25:07
Snooty
it's It's a roof or whatever whatever it is.
00:25:09
PatsPro
Whatever it is, it's Texas.
00:25:09
Savage Boston
I just, their offense, their offensive scheme of like, um what's his Nick Haley or whatever, like,
00:25:11
PatsPro
It's warm. Oh, yeah, Nick Caley nika's not built for the moment.
00:25:13
Snooty
it's it it's ah It's a junior version of what the Patriots run.
00:25:17
PatsPro
Yeah, Nick Caley is not built for the moment, and Stroud's not good enough.
00:25:18
Savage Boston
Yeah, it's not great. And Stroud does not look great in it.
00:25:23
PatsPro
He doesn't have the mental processing power, in my opinion.
00:25:23
Savage Boston
So, like, if you give up more than 20 to Stroud, like, that wouldn't be great.
00:25:25
PatsPro
He doesn't have the ability.
00:25:30
Savage Boston
And that that's – I don't necessarily see that happening. You know, like, that's really not – like, i don't know. I just – i'm not a I'm not scared. They should have this under their under their belt. like you You have a real opportunity to win. They are the favorites in this game. They'll be favorites going in. I think they're like two and a half point favorites right now.
00:25:49
Snooty
They opened at 3. Well...
00:25:51
Savage Boston
Yeah, I think they're like two and a half. Because people see the matchup, they're like, all the Texans edge rushers are going to get all this pressure. And like maybe, again, maybe May has a bad fumble. um We're gonna touch on that quickly. They've got to get to him.
00:26:06
Savage Boston
And you got to have that internal clock going like he's keeps trying to make plays, but you're to have to either take a sack or get out because you can't be back there, double and triple pumping and, and two brutal fumbles, you know?
00:26:17
Snooty
Well, I know one of them was... I think we we were talking about this offline, but um it's clearly a three-step drop. but You know, three-step, it's in the shotgun.
00:26:27
Snooty
So it's full it's ah it's a quick concept. You see both tackles cut. and Everybody was hammering Will Campbell for it.
00:26:31
Savage Boston
Yeah.
00:26:32
Snooty
And I'm like, he tried it wasn't a great cut block.
00:26:35
PatsPro
It was horrible cut block, actually.
00:26:35
Snooty
I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't very good. But he didn't like schematically.
00:26:40
Savage Boston
but you're to get the ball out.
00:26:41
PatsPro
Yeah, it's supposed to be three steps back foot
00:26:42
Snooty
It's supposed to be gone well by Yeah, it's by the time, like, it shouldn't have, like, you can't blame him for that. It's like, what is he doing? Why is he, I'm like, because that's the fucking scheme is you're supposed to cut the end to get his hands down so you can get the quick slant out. And Moses did the same thing. But the only difference is, is that Moses guy didn't get up and fucking hammer me, you know, like it it's not on him for that one. But.
00:27:06
Snooty
I don't know. I mean, i I'm not concerned with the whole familiarity thing with, ah I think, McDaniels' brothers on the staff and Castario and like all that shit.
00:27:13
PatsPro
He's the wide receivers coach.
00:27:16
Snooty
i'm I'm not overly concerned with that. I'm just not. um
00:27:22
Snooty
I'm just, I don't know. i I'm confident in this this game. I'm more, I'm, believe I'm saying is I'm almost more confident in this game but than I was going to the Chargers game. I feel like there's less uncertainty.
00:27:33
PatsPro
i
00:27:33
Snooty
I feel like May's second half was a perfect and in encapsulation of what I expect from him, which is he played like shit in the first half.
00:27:34
PatsPro
I'm there with you.
00:27:40
Snooty
And the second half, he went eleven to fourteen for like a buck 72 and a touchdown. And it's like, yeah.
00:27:47
PatsPro
one of the best touchdowns I've seen in a while, by the way.
00:27:49
Snooty
That was right in front of the section I was in. I was amazing. It was fucking amazing. um It's like, i don't know. I don't see how... I don't see him having a shitty game with specifically the fumbles and stuff again. i just don't.
00:28:04
Snooty
and He just hasn't done it all year. he's He's had a shit game with stuff like that, and then he comes back and he plays really, really well the next week. i just i don't know I just don't have a I just don't see it happening again two games in a row.
00:28:17
Snooty
That's me knocking on wood.
00:28:18
PatsPro
I hate to be a homer, but I have to agree. I have no counterpoint to this.
00:28:24
Savage Boston
I mean, I would say like, know, obviously i think you got to trust in Drake to make adjustments and to improve the way he plays. You got to trust that he's obviously knows what he's doing.
00:28:37
Savage Boston
I think the chargers did some stuff that they didn't expect. I'm sure in the room they're like, Whoa, like we really, we didn't see that coming. Like Josh didn't quite, Josh didn't quite have it.
00:28:48
Savage Boston
You know what i mean? Like, like they got down there, they really couldn't function. I just hope what Houston does, if it's that simple or simpler, they have a better time just orchestrating an offense because clearly like may had some opportunities. He got there and he's like, I don't like this. It's like, I don't like this. Look, they took away, you know what I mean? Clearly they they took away what he was trying to do.
00:29:07
Snooty
Mm-hmm.
00:29:07
Savage Boston
um You know? And then i also like the thing may versus Rogers p playing against the Texans last night. Like, Aaron Rodgers did have a bunch of opportunities to run the ball and get out of the pocket and he doesn't run anymore.
00:29:22
Savage Boston
And so they weren't afraid of Rodgers. Now like Drake, they have to genuinely be scared of Drake's legs. So maybe they commit another guy just to spy Drake the entire game. They might do that.
00:29:34
Savage Boston
But Drake getting out of the pocket getting up field will be will be huge. It'll be obviously a big part of the game. Yeah.
00:29:41
PatsPro
The only thing I'll say with that is they do have experience against a quarterback like Drake May in Josh Allen, and they had a pretty good plan for Josh Allen.
00:29:43
Savage Boston
Yeah.
00:29:55
PatsPro
That's the that's really the only thing I'll say, but Allen had a horrible game.
00:29:58
Savage Boston
What was the score of that game?
00:30:00
Snooty
Bad.
00:30:01
PatsPro
It was bad.
00:30:03
Savage Boston
Was it?
00:30:03
PatsPro
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
00:30:05
Snooty
I know, hold on.
Predictions for Patriots vs. Texans
00:30:07
Snooty
But I will counter that um with... I know everybody says he's like baby Allen or whatever. or At least that was like the thing. He doesn't play like Allen.
00:30:16
PatsPro
No, he doesn't.
00:30:17
Snooty
He plays more like Herbert or like Mahomes than he does Allen.
00:30:17
PatsPro
But from a QB contained perspective, they they kind of, they they did a really good job containing. ah You know what? The Bills-Texans game wasn't actually terrible. It was 23-19.
00:30:30
Snooty
Yeah, but Allen did not have to play.
00:30:33
PatsPro
You look like dog shit, yeah.
00:30:35
Snooty
He was 24-34 for 253 with two picks.
00:30:41
Snooty
He did not look good that game.
00:30:42
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:30:43
Snooty
so But again, 24-34 for 253 with two picks.
00:30:43
Savage Boston
So hold on, repeat the stat line again.
00:30:50
Savage Boston
Yeah, and then follows the final score.
00:30:53
Snooty
23-19.
00:30:53
PatsPro
yeah
00:30:55
Savage Boston
So, i mean, that's kind of like not, that's kind of like ballpark-ish.
00:30:58
Snooty
He was sacked. Hold on. He was sacked eight times for 70 yards.
00:31:02
PatsPro
Jesus Christ.
00:31:03
Savage Boston
Oh, boy.
00:31:03
Snooty
that That was the other piece.
00:31:06
Savage Boston
So, yes, I think that's a similar similarly constructed offense in some way with like quarterback elevating and decent run game. I don't know if, you know again, you've got to be the team scoring 23.
00:31:23
Savage Boston
You know what I mean? but like and again, the Patriots defense is much better than the Bills.
00:31:29
Snooty
And it's not perfect because the Bills probably have a better run game. Like, Cook went for 116, averaging 6.8 a carry. Arguably should have been giving more carries. But the Patriots have better receivers. They have much better weapons than the Bills do.
00:31:42
PatsPro
Like, it's so weird to say, but they have way better receivers. Like, Khalil Shakir is good, but who else?
00:31:46
Savage Boston
The bill, I don't and don't know what they' what's going on there. but
00:31:51
PatsPro
Well, they're trying to do the thing that they did with Brady where Brady would, you know, could make anybody a star. But Josh Allen just doesn't have that type of mentality. I have no idea.
00:32:01
Snooty
No, what the real problem is is they missed on Keon Coleman. Or Keon Coleman to this point hasn't been what they expect him to be.
00:32:06
Savage Boston
No, he's not.
00:32:08
Snooty
If he was a legit, if he lived up to expectation, then you'd be sitting there going, oh, like he's got a stud receiver and he's got a stud running back and a stud tight end.
00:32:08
Savage Boston
He's not.
00:32:15
Snooty
You know mean?
00:32:16
PatsPro
Imagine Xavier Worthy on the Bills.
00:32:16
Snooty
Like they just whiffed.
00:32:17
Savage Boston
Their tight ends are good. Like their Kinkade knocks are good. And they have like um Gabe Davis now towards ACL and another kid shavers towards ACL.
00:32:20
Snooty
Yeah.
00:32:27
Savage Boston
They have two ACL tears.
00:32:27
Snooty
Yep.
00:32:29
Snooty
Yep.
00:32:29
Savage Boston
And so again, like, I don't know, like who the, who the fuck is he throwing the ball to against the Broncos?
00:32:36
Savage Boston
Like, is it not truly not matter for Josh?
00:32:38
Snooty
I don't know, but I think I still think they're going to win.
00:32:38
Savage Boston
He's like, get in the fucking game and I'm to you the ball.
00:32:41
Snooty
I still think they're going to win.
00:32:43
PatsPro
Oh, they're definitely still going win.
00:32:43
Savage Boston
They might. Yeah.
00:32:46
Savage Boston
That's what I mean. Like it's, it's, it's just Josh is that guy that it doesn't, it truly doesn't matter. you know, Brady had years like that.
00:32:53
PatsPro
Josh is going to do some crazy shit.
00:32:54
Savage Boston
He really did for his first bunch of his career where like they had, you know, again, the Rasheed Caldwell years and stuff like they had nobody, man.
00:32:54
PatsPro
He's going to throw 60 yards off one foot.
00:33:01
Savage Boston
Like you go back those skill groups, you're like, Oh my God.
00:33:04
Snooty
Yeah.
00:33:04
Savage Boston
And people forget like the whole second half of Brady's career, he was like statistically crushed it for the whole second half of his career. It first half of his career when, like, offense was different and he played with, like, guys that weren't elite, talented players.
00:33:19
Snooty
It was a different era of football, but he also, though that like 05-06 stretch, where it was like the corpse of Troy Brown and fucking Rache Caldwell and Doug Gabriel and I don't even know who else.
00:33:24
Savage Boston
Yeah, that's rough.
00:33:35
Snooty
Like the after Givens left, after Branch left, but it was it was bad. It was bad.
00:33:40
Savage Boston
It was really bad. They didn't know how to pivot, but then that's what created giving them Randy Moss and Wes Welker and Dante Stallworth.
00:33:46
Snooty
Well, yeah.
00:33:48
PatsPro
Oh, God.
00:33:49
Savage Boston
They got mad.
00:33:49
Snooty
And Benjamin Watson.
00:33:49
Savage Boston
They're like, all right, we're gonna get a lot of really good players now, you know,
00:33:54
Snooty
And Benjamin Watson.
00:33:54
PatsPro
We're going to get the one of the best receivers of all time.
00:33:56
PatsPro
Yeah, fourth round pick. Fuck it.
00:33:58
Savage Boston
for a fourth round, it which was crazy. so I want to um touch on this really quick. I think there's like, again, I'll keep saying it, say it forever. ah a j Brown, Everyone, people on the radio were like, I don't want him now anymore. I do.
00:34:13
Savage Boston
think he's a stud. He's going to be a stud. I think he's unhappy. And there makes it like, again, Randy Moss, when he was on the Raiders and like the end of what the Vikings, wherever he was, like, I think it was just what Vikings Raiders and paths, but like, he wasn't happy.
00:34:26
PatsPro
Yep.
00:34:28
Savage Boston
He wasn't performing well.
00:34:30
Snooty
Diners.
00:34:31
PatsPro
Yeah, he did go to the Niners, yeah.
00:34:32
Savage Boston
Wasn't the Niners after, or did he go to Niners from the Vikings after
00:34:32
Snooty
And Titans. And Diners Titans after. but after
00:34:37
Savage Boston
after the pass, right? So anyway, so like, again, that was a time where, you know, if guys aren't happy, they don't play well. I think that's like, you have to be in it. Look at digs this year.
00:34:51
Savage Boston
Like he just gives a shit. He's in it. It means a lot. The whole team elevates when your emotions are there. If you're unhappy, only people like Jamar Chase, it doesn't fucking matter. He's unhappy. He's still going to carve you up.
00:35:03
Savage Boston
You know what I mean? Like does he's too elite, but like AJ Brown, you get them on this team with Mike Vrabel. You're talking with Drake may, you don't think AJ Brown's like, let's fucking roll.
00:35:11
PatsPro
his favorite team growing up.
00:35:17
Snooty
I think it would depend on how much it costs to acquire him, which is what I said from before. My stance hasn't changed.
00:35:23
Savage Boston
Less now, probably.
00:35:24
Snooty
I would assume less now.
00:35:26
PatsPro
Could I get him for a third rounder?
00:35:26
Snooty
Certainly, i mean, year over year, like, sure.
00:35:27
PatsPro
Is that possible at this point?
00:35:29
Snooty
But, like, I'm not giving up a first-round pick for I'm not doing that.
00:35:35
PatsPro
It can't be done.
00:35:35
Savage Boston
I
00:35:37
Snooty
A two and maybe a pick swap or something, fine. I'm not doing it. I'm not giving up a first for him. This team isn't – you still have a lot of holes. A lot of holes with shit to fill.
00:35:48
Savage Boston
think he's what, like 28?
00:35:48
Snooty
And a little draft talk. Hey, sneaky, sneaky deep positions this year in the draft. Tight end and and edge rusher. Two biggest points of need for the Patriots right now. that's your That's been your 2026 little draft nugget for this draft, for this pod.
00:36:00
Savage Boston
What if what if if you target an edge you like? Like, if you have an edge you like, I'm not saying they're going to trade up for Bain or something where, you know, and a lot of pros, I guarantee a lot of pros don't like Bain because his arms are literally like 30 inches long. Like, he's basically, and they said his comp is, I think, Brandon Graham comp. Like, he's just like a really strong, he's almost like Milton Williams, but he's playing on the edge.
00:36:24
Snooty
Yeah.
00:36:25
Savage Boston
Maybe he moves down to de-tackle or plays all over.
00:36:26
PatsPro
I will not tolerate wool candle slander in this in this chat. Okay. oh Oh, gosh, we're we're not having wool candle this course.
00:36:32
Savage Boston
But this, this kid's arms are three inches shorter than Will Campbell.
00:36:33
PatsPro
I'm sorry. hurt short arms.
00:36:38
Savage Boston
Like this kid's arms, but he's elite. He's a dominating force. So like, I don't know if he'll, how far he drops. Everyone's like, Oh, you're an idiot. He's not going past whatever top 10. I'm like, you might be right, but pro scouts care and pros care about measurables.
00:36:54
Savage Boston
If you're a D end and edge rusher, they want you built like Will Anderson, six foot five, two 55, speed, long arms, you know, like, like that's how they want you built.
00:37:04
Savage Boston
They don't want you like 30 inch arms.
00:37:06
PatsPro
Yeah, can get within six inches of the ground and still somehow drive forward faster than anybody can drive forward.
00:37:07
Savage Boston
Like. fast's pass right but like
00:37:12
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:37:13
Savage Boston
Because that dude goes on Vidarian low and low and Vidarian low would just stick his arm out and he can't even get into his chest or something, you know?
00:37:14
Snooty
Yeah.
00:37:19
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:37:20
Savage Boston
So, but then again, that comes back to people forgetting that there's the human element and some people are just fucking freak athletes and better players.
00:37:27
Snooty
Yeah. I mean, I was gonna say Brandon Graham is playing in his like, i don't know, 17th year or something, right?
00:37:31
Savage Boston
Yeah. Yeah. I think Brandon Graham did.
00:37:32
Snooty
He just came out of retirement.
00:37:33
PatsPro
Yeah, and I think he's had a pretty okay career.
00:37:33
Savage Boston
shoot
00:37:33
Snooty
Like, yeah.
00:37:36
Savage Boston
I think he did.
00:37:36
Snooty
You know,
00:37:36
Savage Boston
I got to look at Brandon Graham's measurables now, but, but it's true though. The people, I guarantee people get really down on him. remember when Vernon Golston came out. This is so random.
00:37:43
Snooty
Yep, yep. yep
00:37:45
Savage Boston
Vernon Golston. I told Snooty, I was like, Vernon Golston. It was one of the guys I was high on. I think I usually brag about good takes. I've had Vernon Golston. I was like, this kid's a freak.
00:37:55
Savage Boston
It's like, watch out. He's a freak show. Cause he was. I'm watching the compound. was like, this dude's a monster. And man, he sucked ass. Like, he sucked. and Versus my opposite take that I always make fun of the studio about is Aaron Donald, who I was literally like, <unk> i was like, I love this kid.
00:38:13
Snooty
don't know why he made fun of me. if I didn't say he wasn't good.
00:38:15
Savage Boston
You, no, no, you did. You were dead serious. You were like, you're like, too short. He's five eleven but like you You were like didn't love
00:38:22
Snooty
You were like, no, because you were like all over him. And I was, which, yeah, you know, and obviously good take, but I'm like, I didn't, it wasn't like he sucks.
00:38:26
Savage Boston
was
00:38:30
Savage Boston
He was just one of my more noticeable ones that like whatever 20 years ago, 15 years ago when I was like, this kid's a freak.
00:38:30
Snooty
You're like, yeah, look at my fucking...
00:38:36
Savage Boston
I watched him, his highlights, these interior D linemen just flying, gashing everyone everywhere. was like, his tape's stupid. He's like, i forget forgot how many he sacks Aaron Donald had at Pitt, but it was insanity.
00:38:48
Savage Boston
Wait,
00:38:48
PatsPro
I was also an Aaron, Aaron Donald hater. So I, I, I can't say any.
00:38:52
Savage Boston
wait.
00:38:53
PatsPro
Oh yeah. I was like, he's fricking five 11, you know? Oh my God. you're Oh, you're beating up these guys. Ooh. And turns out he's a, you know, genetic super freak alien person who just cannot be stopped.
Reflecting on Draft Picks and Prospects
00:39:05
PatsPro
And I was wrong. Whoopsies.
00:39:08
Savage Boston
He's just, yeah, he's just truly an absolute monster. So Brandon, hold on. Brandon Graham's arm length is 32 and a quarter. There's none of that in 268. So again, like not long arms.
00:39:19
Savage Boston
ah I'm looking up. I don't know what Bain.
00:39:23
PatsPro
How the fuck do we get the draft talk when we're still in the playoffs? What what happened here?
00:39:26
Snooty
This is what we do. This is what we do.
00:39:27
Savage Boston
i just can't stop doing that.
00:39:28
PatsPro
ah
00:39:29
Snooty
Every pod, I think we have at least one tiny mention of the draft.
00:39:31
PatsPro
see I know. ah we can't We can't help ourselves. We're we're just like trade monkeys.
00:39:37
Savage Boston
Hold on. So there, I mean, I don't know if it's right, but like a DP Brugler, ah Dane Brugler has got that huge draft guide, right? He says that Ruben being six, two, two 77, but his arms 30 inches and three quarters.
00:39:45
Snooty
beast Yeah.
00:39:51
PatsPro
my God.
00:39:51
Savage Boston
Like that's really short. That's really short. So I get like, he was falling. He might fall in the twenties. I'm telling you, he might fall. And we're getting mad at me listening this, but he might fall.
00:40:05
Snooty
Well, I mean, that's not fall that's not far enough to reach the Patriots at 32,
00:40:09
Savage Boston
It's not fun.
00:40:09
PatsPro
Mmm.
00:40:10
Savage Boston
It's not fun. It's straight up.
00:40:14
Savage Boston
All right. Well, what ah any other thoughts on the Texans coming up? You guys have any other things you need to get out of the game?
00:40:19
Snooty
think I think as long as the offense takes care of the ball and defense and special teams doesn't do anything stupid, I think they'll be fine. It's going to be a rock fight. it's going to be ugly. But again, guys, this is how they won.
00:40:31
Snooty
Every Super Bowl they won. They won ugly fucking games. Ugly, tight, stressful, stressful games.
00:40:36
PatsPro
Like super ugly. the The ugliest games you can possibly think of.
00:40:40
Snooty
And then even some of the ones that weren't like ugly, like that the famous Baltimore one where you know the Edelman touchdown pass stuff, the game was stupid close like and stressful.
00:40:48
PatsPro
yo Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:40:49
Snooty
like That's how they win games. That's how you win games in the playoffs to go to the Super Bowl.
00:40:53
PatsPro
That's playoff football. what what What people don't understand, and I don't blame them for not understanding this because they're so used to the Chiefs being so dominant. This is what playoff football is. It's two teams who belong there because that's what the playoff does. It weeds out very quickly who belongs and who does not.
00:41:12
PatsPro
You have two teams who belong, two teams who are, for the most part, evenly matched in some way or another in a fucking rock fight.
00:41:20
Snooty
Mm-hmm. Yep.
00:41:20
PatsPro
That's what it is. It's a rock fight because everyone is trying their hotter hardest not to go to Cancun. I almost...
00:41:27
Snooty
Mm-hmm.
00:41:27
Savage Boston
and you I mean, this it's true though.
00:41:27
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:41:28
Savage Boston
Like every, all these games are, dog they're dogfights.
00:41:29
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:41:31
Savage Boston
Every single one of them, like who makes the most plays? Like in this game, Justin Herbert couldn't make a fucking play. Couldn't do it. Couldn't get in on fourth down. Couldn't make a play. He had a couple one time rolling out.
00:41:41
Savage Boston
He had McConkie. He could have made a nice deep throw.
00:41:44
PatsPro
McConkie was, there was no one by him and he's waving his hands in the air.
00:41:44
Savage Boston
Didn't do it.
00:41:48
Savage Boston
Bad throw, bad play. Just didn't have it. So like, to me, like Herbert didn't have it. Drake had a very poor first half, really poor. Wasn't good.
00:41:58
Savage Boston
Didn't see it. Well, didn't throw it. Well, I think there was a lot of confusion and I was like, is they got to make adjustments. And then Drake in the second half was what? Like 11 of 14 for one 40 and a touchdown with one 40 passer rating.
00:42:13
Savage Boston
So like, Whoa, okay.
00:42:13
Snooty
Right.
00:42:15
Savage Boston
You know, that's, that's Drake. That was, that's what Drake's been all fucking season. It's not shit. Efficient, like ethical Hooper. That's why everyone says Drake, right?
00:42:24
PatsPro
not stat-patting like certain other quarterbacks who we won't mention on this podcast
00:42:25
Savage Boston
Like,
00:42:27
Savage Boston
Yeah, he's not just Stafford, but that's what Drake's been this season.
00:42:31
PatsPro
pat stanford
00:42:32
Savage Boston
Efficient. We need that, Drake. No, he doesn't have to have a 140 pass rating. Like, that's that's ridiculous. But you need, especially against the Texans, you need efficient. And Josh is like, you got to get the fucking ball out.
00:42:44
Savage Boston
They got to get the ball out. and You can't be doing, like, seven-step drops.
00:42:45
Snooty
Awesome.
00:42:47
Savage Boston
Like, don't trust it.
00:42:48
PatsPro
you can't be resetting the ball over and over again with two hands on it.
00:42:49
Savage Boston
and don't trust it
00:42:53
PatsPro
Even with two hands on it, you're going to lose it.
00:42:56
Savage Boston
We just can't, we just, you have to like, you can't have long, massive developing plays in this game.
00:43:02
Savage Boston
Other than maybe you take a couple of those coming off a strong play action and he gets like Brady's to do that. He'd have like these long developing plays off a big play action and then bomb it.
00:43:02
PatsPro
Yeah.
00:43:13
PatsPro
But most of the most of the time, he wouldn't even hit the downfield option.
00:43:13
Savage Boston
Right.
00:43:16
PatsPro
He'd take the check down on it. Like he he would hit the play, like he he would hit the play action very nicely off of a a nice run or something at 40 yard line.
00:43:19
Savage Boston
Yeah. Yeah. Often.
00:43:27
PatsPro
Doesn't matter which one, but more often than not, he goes, okay, I don't need to wait here. My guy's not open. Let me hit the check down and he'll take it for seven yards.
00:43:38
Savage Boston
Yeah.
00:43:38
PatsPro
You just need to be smart with the football.
00:43:39
Savage Boston
I'm going score-wise. let's Let's go into score predictions because this is our score time.
00:43:42
PatsPro
Oh, God damn it.
00:43:44
Savage Boston
We've been close. A few games have close. Last game, nobody was like three-point. You know, nobody was close.
00:43:49
PatsPro
No.
00:43:50
Savage Boston
where I had twenty four twenty one um I'm say in this game, twenty to seventeen Patriots win.
00:43:58
Snooty
Fucker. was 21-17. 24-17 with late field goal icing it to it one-touchdown game.
00:44:00
Savage Boston
that you have
00:44:03
Savage Boston
oh
00:44:03
Snooty
but i'll say twenty four seventeen with a late field goal icing it to make it a one touchdown view
00:44:10
PatsPro
I'm going to say it's a cagey affair. 1714. Tight, tight.
00:44:15
Savage Boston
Yeah, that's tight.
00:44:16
PatsPro
tight tight
00:44:16
Savage Boston
I don't think that's far off. I truly don't. Like, I think i think it would shock me if either team – yeah, that's what – yeah, it would shock me if either team just, like, lit it up.
00:44:20
PatsPro
And that's that's the Patriots winning, by the way, case I didn't make that clear.
00:44:26
Savage Boston
I just – I don't trust Stroud in that offense. I mean, I don't know how the – Texas fans watch and are like, all right, we've got to figure this out somehow. Like, you need your defense to score.
00:44:37
Savage Boston
They have to score least one touchdown on defense to win. That's crazy. like Like, I don't know. That type of team hasn't won – the Super Bowl in a while, having a team that would, like, again, we're talking 2,000 Ravens, 2,002 Bucs.
00:44:55
Snooty
Broncos.
00:44:55
Savage Boston
Like, joner those were not good offensive teams.
00:44:59
Snooty
Manning's Bronco team.
00:45:02
Savage Boston
Yeah, but, oh because Manning fell off that year? Two years before that, Manning had a bajillion touchdowns, though.
00:45:04
Snooty
Yeah.
00:45:07
Savage Boston
Like, they, but yes, that mean that against the Panthers that game, that defense was elite.
00:45:07
Snooty
Sure. Then he fell off. Yeah. With Von Miller and all them.
00:45:12
Savage Boston
Manning's arm. Yeah.
00:45:14
Snooty
Yeah.
00:45:14
Savage Boston
Manning, like, it literally had nerve damage. He could barely throw. He's like it is like like, limp, like, limp it down the field.
00:45:19
PatsPro
It was like a cyborg.
00:45:21
Savage Boston
And, like, they end up winning the Super Bowl somehow.
00:45:22
PatsPro
Yeah. He couldn't feel his hand like quite literally couldn't feel his hand.
00:45:25
Savage Boston
That was one of the worst he's he's ever looked. And I was like, this is dude's got to go. And he somehow goes out, you know, winning it, which good good for him.
00:45:28
Snooty
Yeah.
00:45:33
Savage Boston
Peyton's not a bad guy. So, all right, guys, I appreciate you tuning in. um It's the playoffs, man. we're We're still in it. I'm just looking forward to keeping the, the season pod rolling before we go into full, full off season mode, whatever that looks like.
00:45:48
PatsPro
Oh, I can't wait for the draft talk. Oh, boy, it's going to be wonderful.
00:45:52
Savage Boston
Oh God. Everyone, people asking me about that already. And I was like, i was like, I'll let you know. I'll let you know when we get there, man. Like let the season end. Let it end. This is my whole focus right now. Just to let it end Then we can talk about the draft.
00:46:06
Savage Boston
As soon as he's in there, like all you're like reading is ah his draft guide already, he's already prepping.
00:46:10
PatsPro
I already have like two or three players at the end of the first round where i'm like, I want these guys.
00:46:18
Savage Boston
All right, guys. We'll take it easy again. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next time.
00:46:21
Snooty
Yep.
00:46:21
Savage Boston
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