Intro
00:16:18
Lord Hinkie
The next good Brock Bowers.
00:16:24
Lord Hinkie
My goodness. This guy is
Brock Bowers: The Next Big Thing?
00:16:26
Lord Hinkie
just incredible. He had heard all of the I was talking on him last week in this podcast where I was like, hey maybe maybe Tucker Craft is Lieutenant One. and i Maybe Trey McBride might be you know overtaking Brock Bowers and in Dynasty.
00:16:45
Lord Hinkie
Kyle Pitt. No. Brock Bowers. Bowers. I don't know who the announcer guy is for the m m MMA, but he needs to...
00:16:53
Lord Hinkie
Bruce Buffer, thank you. He needs to announce Brock Bowers at the next last Raiders game, and I will lose my mind. That guy is incredible, but being able to go, Brock
00:17:07
Lord Hinkie
Bowers would just be amazing. I would pay good, good money to hear that, but anyways... 12 catches, 127 yards, three touchdowns.
00:17:20
Lord Hinkie
Unguardable. Matchup proof. Pete Carroll realized, like, hey, we should throw that guy the ball. And maybe that's our offense. And they did it, and it worked.
00:17:34
Lord Hinkie
Ashton Gentie who? Doesn't matter.
00:17:40
Lord Hinkie
Zig, you called it. Talk to me about Brock Bowers, buddy.
00:17:44
Dakota Zeigler
Brock Bowers. Yeah, I called it. I told you Brock was a stud.
00:17:48
Ninja
hi Are you kidding me?
00:17:49
Dakota Zeigler
No, yeah you did.
00:17:50
Lord Hinkie
Oh, did I say zig? I meant to say ninja.
00:17:52
Dakota Zeigler
I was playing with it.
00:17:54
Lord Hinkie
Sorry, I got distracted.
00:17:54
Dakota Zeigler
Now, I'm going to hand it off because although Brock is an absolute beast, you know, there was questions coming into the year, but I'm not going to hold it from you. One man never wavered. Damian, take it away.
Generational Talent: Brock Bowers
00:18:06
Ninja
Never wavered. I knew all along. You guys forgot he was injured. You guys forgot. You got so caught up in the Tucker craft of what have I done for you recently.
00:18:17
Ninja
You forgot who Brock Bowers is. An absolute time stamp stud. Alright. He's a beast. He's the best I've ever seen scouted.
00:18:29
Ninja
That's over Kyle Pitts. That's over any tight end coming out the draft. He's the best I've ever seen. And he continues to prove it. He is Las Vegas' entire offense. And I think if you moved him to any other offense. He would be the entirety of that offense.
00:18:46
Ninja
This is. Overused term. But not for this guy. Generational.
00:18:51
Lord Hinkie
Generational.
00:18:52
Dakota Zeigler
Generational.
00:18:55
Lord Hinkie
Confirmed. Crossed the board. He's amazing. And Geno Smith played decent enough. So it worked out. Love Brock. Sorry Brock.
00:19:05
Lord Hinkie
You know what? Actually, you're welcome. I lit that fire.
00:19:12
Ninja
Don't take credit for it.
00:19:12
Lord Hinkie
And that's all you needed. That's all you needed.
00:19:14
Ninja
Don't take credit for that.
00:19:15
Lord Hinkie
I needed to light that fire on you. And I did.
Fantasy Football Dilemmas: Dalton Kincaid
00:19:18
Lord Hinkie
Next good. Another tight end, Dalton Kincaid, six catches, 101 yards, one touchdown.
00:19:26
Lord Hinkie
Very good performance against the Chiefs. I had a start-sit question where was like, do I start Travis Kelsey against the Bills or Kincaid against the Chiefs? I went with Travis Kelsey, and I'm sad.
00:19:37
Lord Hinkie
But Kincaid, he might be on the number one target there in Buffalo. Ninja hit me.
00:19:42
Ninja
So, I don't really have anything about the game, or Kincaid himself, but have you noticed that the guys I pick for touchdown scores the bed, and then the next week they hit?
00:19:52
Ninja
is That's an ongoing theme here? So, I'm good where like I pick a week, but like I'm predicting one week too far ahead? I hate it.
00:20:05
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, maybe we need to fade you and then re-bet the next week. That's how we that's how we have to just go about this.
00:20:10
Ninja
but That sucks to hear where you have to fade the ninja bet. It sucks.
Betting Strategies: When to Pick?
00:20:17
Lord Hinkie
We'll see we'll see how the pod does next week.
00:20:21
Dakota Zeigler
So we're betting Kyle, Brashard, Smith, RJ, Harvey, and Travion this week.
00:20:26
Ninja
Throw a mortgage on it.
00:20:26
Dakota Zeigler
You heard it here first.
00:20:27
Ninja
Life insurance policy.
00:20:29
Lord Hinkie
All four of them.
00:20:31
Lord Hinkie
Take a long one out.
00:20:31
Dakota Zeigler
I'm running out lives, baby. I'm not a cat.
00:20:36
Lord Hinkie
Stupid. Next good. monday night football or sorry Sunday Night Football game.
00:20:42
Dakota Zeigler
all right, there it is.
00:20:43
Lord Hinkie
Torrey Horton, Sammy Wheels for the Seattle Seahawks. Torrey Horton.
NFL Promises: Torrey Horton
00:20:47
Lord Hinkie
Scoring two touchdowns early in the fourth quarter, too. No Cooper Cup. He was the wide receiver, too, for that day, and he showed it.
00:20:55
Lord Hinkie
i I don't know how they go back to Cooper Cup and keep taking away snaps from this Torrey Horan. Obviously, we'll talk about the trade they made a little bit later and see how that affects things, but I love this Horan kid.
00:21:06
Lord Hinkie
What are your thoughts?
00:21:07
Ninja
Yeah, I absolutely love him, and i I'll pass it to Zig real quick, but I just want to say i think he's a perfect glue guy in this offense, a solidified outside guy, which is what you need with Jackson Smith and Jake, but who can do both but primarily eats from the slot.
00:21:22
Ninja
But I do want to give Zig his flowers because he was on this guy pretty early.
00:21:27
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I like this
Scouting Approaches: Casual Insights
00:21:27
Dakota Zeigler
kid. And more just less more or less just for the opportunity he was going to see there. I thought he had great college film. I did watch actually watch this guy a little bit in college. Surprise you guys there.
00:21:38
Dakota Zeigler
But I liked when where he landed.
00:21:39
Dakota Zeigler
I know! i liked where he landed, just the opportunity mostly. Like said, hopefully he gets a lot more snaps. I mean, he was late are sitting around like that 40-ish percentage mark, snap-wise.
00:21:52
Dakota Zeigler
And... you know Some weeks when they got him the ball, he was able to do a lot with it, and other weeks where they couldn't throw him the ball. but i mean He's only seeing 40% of the snaps. He should be seeing a lot more than that.
00:22:05
Lord Hinkie
You're telling me you watched Tori Horton college tape?
00:22:13
Dakota Zeigler
Only because I think I had thirds, and he was a guy falling there that I wanted to see.
00:22:19
Lord Hinkie
What college team do you play for?
00:22:22
Dakota Zeigler
Oh, don't question me now. I did watch film on him.
00:22:25
Dakota Zeigler
I'm going to tell
Dolphins vs. Ravens: A Tough Game
00:22:26
Dakota Zeigler
you the truth.
00:22:27
Dakota Zeigler
I watched film on him.
00:22:27
Ninja
You fumbled the bag, Zig.
00:22:29
Lord Hinkie
Wait, hold on.
00:22:30
Lord Hinkie
Zig, before you answer, Ninja, do you have that?
00:22:34
Ninja
The college he played for, Torrey Horton.
00:22:38
Lord Hinkie
Oh, my God, a bunch of rookies here, huh?
00:22:41
Ninja
Hang on. It'll come to me.
00:22:43
Dakota Zeigler
No, he wasn't.
00:22:45
Lord Hinkie
They wore green and gold jerseys.
00:22:47
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, it's not the Nostradar or Sanders team.
00:22:50
Lord Hinkie
The other one, Colorado State.
00:22:50
Dakota Zeigler
Colorado. Yeah, Colorado, something.
00:22:54
Lord Hinkie
God, you guys stink.
00:22:55
Lord Hinkie
bunch of rookies.
00:22:56
Ninja
Whoa, hang on. Whoa, I was up there doing that research with you, brother. Let's not.
00:23:01
Lord Hinkie
I know. I know.
00:23:03
Dakota Zeigler
so here's the thing i I am not a scouter I have no idea what I'm watching I don't yeah fair I don't know college ball but I want to see this kid I watched him play a couple times and I mean when I scouted I watched like two or three clips I'm not saying I spent hours on them
00:23:07
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, you don't know Ball, it's fine. It's okay. You don't know Ball.
00:23:20
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. Yeah, he popped up on my Instagram when I was scrolling through Reels, and he looked really good.
00:23:26
Dakota Zeigler
That's not far off.
00:23:28
Ninja
To be fair, Junior, the first team I thought of was Baylor, and I was like, that's not right. That's why I hesitated.
00:23:32
Lord Hinkie
he You got the colors right.
00:23:34
Ninja
and it was it was like it's not
00:23:34
Lord Hinkie
At least I know you watch tape.
00:23:36
Ninja
yeah i was like, that's not right, though.
00:23:38
Ninja
I would have remembered Baylor because that doesn't happen.
00:23:40
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. That's fair. That's understandable. I think we move on to the bads before you guys put yourself on this list. Miami Dolphins, just another dumpster fire game against the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night.
00:23:56
Lord Hinkie
Just, ew, turnover city on this team. So many fumbles. Two have thrown another pick. Not a single touchdown pass. so I love Jalen Waddle in this game. He he did okay. He had six catches, 82 yards. But that team is just awful.
00:24:15
Lord Hinkie
Just not good.
Betting Reflections
00:24:17
Lord Hinkie
We'll talk about some trades they made a little bit later, but I'm assuming you guys have no qualms.
00:24:21
Dakota Zeigler
No qualms.
00:24:23
Lord Hinkie
Next one, Ninja was kind of alluding to this earlier when we were talking about the Steelers, but Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor. Gross. Hit me with an A-Zig. I mean, just disgusting.
00:24:37
Lord Hinkie
Jonathan Taylor, 14 carries, only 45 yards. That's it. No touchdowns. Daniel Jones, three interceptions, three fumbles, and two fumble loss.
00:24:53
Lord Hinkie
Five total turnovers for Daniel Jones. Disgusting. Awful. Can't happen. Can't win football games that way. Zig.
00:25:04
Dakota Zeigler
Is this what we can expect from Daniel Jones if JT cannot perform?
00:25:10
Lord Hinkie
Oh, when it's all in his shoulders and he has to step up.
00:25:14
Lord Hinkie
Probably not.
00:25:17
Dakota Zeigler
You think he can performance you know perform when needed? Or do you think this is if they don't have a run game, he can't be a good quarterback?
00:25:22
Lord Hinkie
I think he was always – no, I don't necessarily think it's that because he did throw for 340 yards. Like he still had – he was still able to bring them back into that game.
00:25:36
Lord Hinkie
It's just he was always turnover prone, but he's gone so long i pretty much this season without giving away any turnovers that he was pretty much due for a bomb.
00:25:47
Lord Hinkie
Like it's Daniel Jones at the end of the day. I mean, he led the league in turnovers in New York like four years in a row. It was bound to happen. But for him, it just all exploded in one game.
00:25:55
Ninja
All this hate on Vanilla Vic, man. All this hate on Vanilla Vic.
00:25:59
Lord Hinkie
I'm not saying.
00:26:00
Ninja
i think I think it's less on Daniel Jones and the Steelers' defense actually woke up.
00:26:00
Lord Hinkie
I'm just saying.
00:26:06
Lord Hinkie
Steelers defense is good in Pittsburgh, too.
00:26:06
Ninja
Like, the Steelers' defense looked like themselves.
00:26:08
Dakota Zeigler
I did, yeah.
00:26:10
Ninja
Yeah. So I'm not going to put too much of this on Daniel Jones. One bad week, I ain't going to do too much damage here, but he does deserve to be on the bads.
00:26:18
Lord Hinkie
Definitely deserves to be on bed. So does JT, especially being like RB1, RB2 to start this year and then went up a dud. Lost me a lot of finishing matchups. Son of a 10-20.
00:26:30
Lord Hinkie
Next bad, Kamani Vidal. This guy just seems to be the biggest boom bust running back of the season so far. 12 carries, only 30 yards. No catches, no touchdowns. Lost the fumble.
00:26:42
Lord Hinkie
Not good. Can't do it. Especially against the Titans in a good matchup where a lot of people probably started you. If they had you, can't have that Vidal. Booty.
00:26:51
Ninja
I started Kamani Vidal over James Cook in a league because of Maggio.
00:26:57
Dakota Zeigler
It should have been beautiful.
00:27:01
Lord Hinkie
Should have been so good.
00:27:01
Ninja
I still won. It's fine, but like Gross.
00:27:04
Lord Hinkie
that would have I hate those, and then you lose by like four, and it's just like, oh, I'm going to I'm going to hate myself for like a week. next bad Jameer Gibbs.
00:27:16
Lord Hinkie
Ew. Nine rushes, 25 yards. No tutties.
00:27:21
Dakota Zeigler
He deserves this one.
00:27:22
Lord Hinkie
Three catches, only three yards. Yeah. He deserves
Injuries and Team Strategies
00:27:25
Lord Hinkie
a big fat boo. Another guy who's top three to five running back so far this year. absolute dud, especially against Minnesota, who does not have a good rush defense, which to be fair, that narrative might be turning itself around because they've been playing well the last three weeks against running backs, going back to Saquon. So maybe we have to change our narrative on Minnesota, but Gibbs, booty, any qualms?
00:27:53
Dakota Zeigler
No, unfortunately.
00:27:55
Lord Hinkie
This next one is a personal hatred of mine. I had, a lot of stock, and by that I mean my hard-earned dollars on a Roma-Dunese touchdown.
00:28:08
Lord Hinkie
Because I thought it was the lockest of all locks you can possibly give against an awful Cincinnati Bengals defense with Caleb Williams playing as well as he does.
00:28:08
Dakota Zeigler
Way too much.
00:28:19
Lord Hinkie
And not only do you not score touchdown in a great matchup,
00:28:26
Lord Hinkie
You don't get one catch against the Cincinnati Bengals. 12-20. Not one catch. You put up zero points against the Cincinnati Bengals defense.
00:28:41
Lord Hinkie
Historically, probably the worst defense of all time.
00:28:47
Dakota Zeigler
Over Dallas?
00:28:47
Lord Hinkie
and I've seen that second that secondary runs away from blockers. They They spread like the Moses running through like the Red Sea. they know't They don't want to touch a football player.
00:28:59
Lord Hinkie
And you don't get one catch.
00:29:03
Lord Hinkie
Not only that, you drop a touchdown pass.
00:29:05
Dakota Zeigler
I just have... I...
00:29:07
Lord Hinkie
You drop a touchdown pass. this one to hit It hit both of your hands as an NFL wide receiver. It's an eight-yard route.
00:29:20
Lord Hinkie
And yeah, sure, it hit your back right hip. you Both your hands touch the ball.
00:29:30
Ninja
My favorite thing in this podcast is when Zig has to click the pen hint write down when people swear.
00:29:37
Ninja
And he clicked it like six times in a minute.
00:29:40
Dakota Zeigler
i'm sitting there i'm sitting there i have like the the minutes right and then i do seconds as well i have 12 20 31 41 57 it's just going down i stopped writing 12 it's just seconds have fun for for rome
00:29:52
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I did it to myself.
00:29:56
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, and someone take the mic away from me.
00:30:01
Dakota Zeigler
just i mean I'm with you, Gary.
00:30:03
Dakota Zeigler
I had so much faith in this guy in this game.
00:30:05
Dakota Zeigler
Like you said, this is the biggest lock ever. And this guy does nothing.
00:30:11
Lord Hinkie
You guys want to hear something funny?
00:30:13
Dakota Zeigler
are You gonna curse again?
00:30:14
Lord Hinkie
No, I threw together a four player touchdown parlay for this Cincinnati Bengals Chicago Bears game. Keep in mind, there's 89 total points scored in this game.
00:30:28
Lord Hinkie
Do you want to hear the four people I picked to score touchdowns?
00:30:32
Lord Hinkie
No, Roma Dunze, Kyle Monungay, Jamar Chase, and Chase Brown.
00:30:38
Dakota Zeigler
was going to say, Chase Brown and Kyle, I thought, wait, did Jamar not score in that game?
00:30:42
Lord Hinkie
No, not a single one scored a touchdown.
00:30:46
Lord Hinkie
89 total points scored in this game. I didn't pick and one of them. Not one.
00:30:53
Lord Hinkie
I did call a big Colson Loveland game, though, so I was kind of happy that happened. But, man, was I just shocked at the outcome of this game. Ninja, take it away. The next one, Jawan Johnson.
00:31:05
Ninja
Yeah, so the people know Gary was talking about hard-earned dollars being spent a four-leg parlay. Well, I had a four-leg parlay that you guys wouldn't know about because it was made Sunday morning.
00:31:17
Ninja
And Every leg hit. I don't know the exact. but It was a tight end parlay. I'm pretty good with those. If I know anything. I know a good tight end. And every leg hit. And then the four o'clockers hit. And the only one that needed to hit was Jawan Johnson.
00:31:33
Ninja
And I asked the boys. Do I cash?
00:31:37
Ninja
Both of them. With a resounding yes.
00:31:43
Ninja
I mulled over. I thought about it. I went through the scenarios in my head. And I waited and waited and waited.
00:31:53
Ninja
And then I was like, you know what? It's two against one. They're both very confident. I'll trust in my boys. The boys let me down.
00:32:03
Ninja
I lost a lot of money. Because these boys didn't have faith. Not one of them said, let it ride.
00:32:12
Lord Hinkie
I did not have faith.
00:32:13
Dakota Zeigler
no faith whatsoever.
00:32:14
Ninja
None of them. None of them. And I lost so much money. Granted, I'm still positive because I'm a great gambler. But...
00:32:24
Ninja
I could have... I could have had rent and utilities paid this month. If these guys just said, hey... Even if one of them... We were talking before the podcast. if we Even one of them was a little shaky. Not so so far up. No.
00:32:42
Ninja
I would have rode it. Because I was in the train of... I'm going ride it out. I hit three or four... I'm already positive this week. It's fine. But no, these guys were so negative.
00:32:53
Ninja
So negative. And I just want to put that back on you guys. Where I feel bad for listeners because we record this on a Tuesday. So you don't get all of my Sunday shenanigan parlays.
00:33:05
Lord Hinkie
Which is probably a good thing.
00:33:05
Ninja
And this was one of them. Probably good. But I'm also winning a lot of money.
00:33:11
Ninja
And it's scary to see.
00:33:12
Lord Hinkie
We got a hot hand over here.
00:33:13
Ninja
I'm i'm running hot. Do I need to just put all my bets out there on a Sunday?
00:33:19
Lord Hinkie
We need to do a live Sunday morning gambling pod.
00:33:24
Ninja
Absolutely not. I don't want... No. No. I'm not holding myself to that standard.
00:33:28
Lord Hinkie
No one wants to hear this.
00:33:34
Dakota Zeigler
ninety twenty twenty one twenty two twenty three twenty four twenty five twenty five bets were put in our group chat sunday morning
00:33:49
Lord Hinkie
yeah Welcome to Sunday with the boys.
00:33:49
Ninja
We are degenerates. Also, the best thing about Sunday was going through, and I didn't put my bets in first. I think Junior did it, and he had a bet I already had locked in, and it cashed.
00:34:00
Ninja
We both had the same parlay without knowing we we both bet it, and it cashed. It was awesome.
00:34:07
Ninja
But you guys suck for Jawan Johnson. I don't know if I'll forgive you. I will. already have, but I just want to let you know that it it hurts a little bit, okay?
00:34:15
Lord Hinkie
It does suck. As soon as that happened...
00:34:16
Ninja
I could have paid rent. You cost me rent.
00:34:18
Lord Hinkie
I've never felt so much guilt when someone scores before than that moment I saw Jawan Johnson score.
00:34:22
Ninja
Whoa! He's a skater!
00:34:26
Lord Hinkie
i just I was just covered in dread and regret. That's literally it.
00:34:31
Dakota Zeigler
I didn't care that much.
00:34:38
Dakota Zeigler
If it was someone that was actually good, would have cared. But Jwan Johnson...
00:34:42
Ninja
so he's a skater you better watch your mouth
00:34:45
Dakota Zeigler
partial stater. don't know.
00:34:47
Lord Hinkie
He's a stater.
00:34:51
Lord Hinkie
Partial. Well, I guess he did go. Did he go to Florida? He might have went to Florida. Anyways, we're going to move on to the injury segment of this next pod. Next part of the podcast. We're going keep this thing moving.
00:35:03
Lord Hinkie
CJ Stroud left Sunday's game with a concussion to be determined on whether he'll be playing this week. If not, it'll be Davis Mills.
00:35:13
Lord Hinkie
And God, I hope not.
Packers' Tight End Options
00:35:17
Lord Hinkie
one, Tucker Craft confirmed torn ACL, going to be out for the rest of the year. Sucks to see it, man. Really sucks to see it.
00:35:28
Lord Hinkie
I have a lot of Tucker Craft, and I know Zig does too.
00:35:32
Dakota Zeigler
I don't. I sold them all.
00:35:33
Lord Hinkie
Good, good. Well, you sold him high. Luke Musgrave is probably the guy to have there, but then again, they'll probably just go somewhere else.
00:35:43
Lord Hinkie
Sucks to see it. Matthew Golden also had a shoulder injury. He left Sunday's game for the Green Bay Packers to be determined on his health as well. Cole Komet was a big reason. Colson Loveland had a great game on Sunday because he left, I believe, in the second quarter and gave Loveland all of the work. And guess what? Shocker. Colson Loveland's talented, and he performed well with it.
00:36:05
Lord Hinkie
I haven't heard
Fantasy Opportunities: Travis Hunter
00:36:05
Lord Hinkie
anything about Cole Komet's injury, but I think, Zig, you can probably confirm this as well. Regardless, it's Loveland's job now, right?
00:36:12
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I like Cole Komet. I think he's a really good tight end. You can't go back. After Loveland did what he did, you you can't go back to Cole Komet. And, I mean, you draft if drafted Loveland so high.
00:36:25
Dakota Zeigler
Let him shine. Like, he's so talented.
00:36:26
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, let it ride.
00:36:28
Dakota Zeigler
Let him play.
00:36:29
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. Travis Hunter in the middle of the week last week was announced that he's going on IR with a knee injury. He's going out four to six weeks, I but i believe is what I heard. Not good.
00:36:41
Lord Hinkie
So another to be determined on his rookie season and his outage. still It's going to be low because he's going to be out. Shocker.
00:36:48
Dakota Zeigler
can i Can I throw something in here quick, Gary?
00:36:51
Dakota Zeigler
For us believers, is this a buy-low opportunity for Travis Hunter?
00:36:56
Lord Hinkie
Oh, yeah. Definitely is. I don't know if it's the right time to do it, but it is a buy low in the wide scheme of things.
00:37:05
Dakota Zeigler
they are Not right away, but I think if you wait You know, midway through... When they start talking about using him on defense again, bye.
00:37:15
Lord Hinkie
I already kind of plan on trying to buy a lot of Travis Hunter this offseason.
00:37:15
Dakota Zeigler
People are going to be so scared.
00:37:21
Lord Hinkie
But that's also banking on him having a poor... rest of the year when he does come back. But Travis Hunter early on will be a buy for me in this offseason.
Cautious Approaches: Puka Nakua
00:37:34
Dakota Zeigler
Just not in my leagues.
00:37:35
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, none of your leagues because already have them or i already do.
00:37:39
Lord Hinkie
Puka Nakua, shocker, left early again this last week after, you know, already had a pretty good performance. I think it was more a like, hey, we're already up 24 on the Saints. Let's
NFL Field Safety Concerns
00:37:49
Lord Hinkie
just leave Nakua out.
00:37:51
Lord Hinkie
He's expected to be OK, so worries there. Keyshawn Booty left with a hamstring injury. Demario Douglas caught himself a touchdown in that New England game. So definitely news to watch out for to see if Boutte plays because if he does or if he doesn't, maybe we're going to go somewhere else like Diggs or Douglas there for New England.
00:38:11
Lord Hinkie
And then other big news, he went that sad music. Jaden Daniels will be out for the rest of the season. Yeah, just stop right in the middle as soon as I start talking.
00:38:20
Dakota Zeigler
i Apparently, I double-clicked.
00:38:20
Ninja
gross, gross injury.
00:38:22
Dakota Zeigler
Might be...
00:38:23
Lord Hinkie
Probably top five grossest injuries I've seen probably in recent memory. Nasty elbow. The elbows always get me. I've seen plenty of knees.
00:38:34
Lord Hinkie
I've seen plenty of ankles. Seen a handful of wrists. Elbow injuries always hurt a little bit differently because you you use your arms so much. Yeah, you walk.
00:38:45
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, you you bend over to grab things with your legs. yeah like you you move your arm so much that you don't even think about it. And his thing went sideways and backwards. Disgusting.
00:38:56
Lord Hinkie
I hate to see it for that guy. He's to be out for the rest of the year. i do think in a slight positive, it was his left arm, not his throwing arm. So I think recovery for him will probably be a little bit sooner.
00:39:08
Lord Hinkie
But definitely out for the year. Hopefully he's okay long term. But, fellas, you're going to –
00:39:12
Dakota Zeigler
Is this at the same spot that got injured as well?
00:39:17
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, you literally just stole what I was about to say because you host the podcast and you get to you know control where segments go.
00:39:21
Dakota Zeigler
I thought you were moving on. I wanted to stop you before you were moving on.
00:39:22
Lord Hinkie
and Yeah, it's fine.
00:39:24
Dakota Zeigler
It's not in the documents.
00:39:24
Lord Hinkie
I only was going to move on because I obviously was not going to throw a question to the group like I always do at the end of these segments. So, yeah, just keep going.
00:39:33
Lord Hinkie
Do you have anything else, Zig, before we eat? What else?
00:39:35
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. Did you guys see the the chart of all the injuries at that side of the field?
00:39:41
Dakota Zeigler
It's insane.
00:39:42
Dakota Zeigler
And they're not going to do anything about it.
00:39:44
Lord Hinkie
Nothing. No. It's like MetLife in New York.
00:39:45
Dakota Zeigler
It's fine. It's one of the. Yeah.
00:39:49
Dakota Zeigler
like What's it going to take for the NFL to say something about these fields?
00:39:53
Dakota Zeigler
What's gonna, like, are we gonna have to literally have someone die? Like, I hate saying that, but, like, we watched people get hurt and these gruesome injuries that, you know, make these players almost never play football again or have these, you know, few season lingering injuries and they're just like, meh, ni it's it's grass.
00:40:12
Dakota Zeigler
I'll cut it later.
Jaden Daniels: The Next RG3?
00:40:13
Dakota Zeigler
You know, Damien?
00:40:16
Ninja
So I brought this up a while ago. at least I think I did. The World Cup is coming to the United States. and they're going to be playing in a lot of big stadiums. And FIFA requires all players to be playing on natural grass fields.
00:40:29
Ninja
so hope And they play in a lot of big NFL stadiums.
00:40:31
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:40:33
Ninja
MetLife is one of them. So they're going to have to tear off all that turf. And put in natural grass. And hopefully they just keep the natural grass.
00:40:44
Lord Hinkie
It does kind of suck that that's what it came to for them to actually do something about it.
00:40:51
Lord Hinkie
But it is what it is.
00:40:54
Lord Hinkie
Hopefully they do something. But I think the bigger question is kind of what we're getting to is what I was going to say before I was rudely interrupted. Jaden Daniels seems like, don't want to call it too early, but is he RG3 2.0?
00:41:13
Lord Hinkie
Hot rookie year.
00:41:16
Lord Hinkie
Considered the next great one. Franchise leader
NFL Trades Analysis
00:41:20
Lord Hinkie
there in Washington.
00:41:25
Lord Hinkie
And then he's out for the whole year. Not only that, he was out, what, four games so far this year? Before that?
00:41:34
Ninja
Looks like a duck quacks like a duck. It's a duck, brother.
00:41:40
Lord Hinkie
Put that on a t-shirt.
00:41:43
Dakota Zeigler
He may have one already. Who knows?
00:41:45
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, buy it for me. I guess moving on now. Buy weeks this week. We have the Cincinnati Bengals are on by. Dallas Cowboys are on by. Kansas City Chiefs are on by. And the Tennessee Titans are on by.
00:41:57
Lord Hinkie
But who cares?
00:41:59
Dakota Zeigler
Who cares? Three high-flying offenses. One who cares.
00:42:02
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, for sure.
00:42:06
Dakota Zeigler
The Chiefs are who we don't care about.
00:42:06
Lord Hinkie
Epic, are you, man? Yeah.
00:42:07
Dakota Zeigler
Ready? Here we go.
00:42:08
Dakota Zeigler
Transition.
00:42:11
Lord Hinkie
Moving on. But the big segment I kind of wanted to get to today. The NFL trade deadline happened, just ended five hours ago, six hours ago as we're recording this.
00:42:22
Lord Hinkie
lot of big moves happening. We'll kind of talk about the big ones and you know the ones that are actually fantasy relevant, but I think the one we have to start with is the Cincinnati, the Indianapolis Colts trading two first-round picks and Adonai Mitchell.
00:42:38
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:42:42
Lord Hinkie
To the New York Jets for Sauce Gardner. Ladies and gentlemen, that is one of the biggest overpays I've seen in an NFL trade in a long time.
00:42:56
Lord Hinkie
Sauce Gardner's good. Not saying he's not good. he's not He hasn't been great this year.
00:43:04
Lord Hinkie
But giving away two first-round picks for this guy is absurd.
00:43:07
Lord Hinkie
Zig, what are your thoughts? And Adonai Mitchell to the moon.
00:43:13
Dakota Zeigler
A.D. Mitchell is kind of interesting just to see what how they use him, what they do with him. I am curious in, I'm trying to pull it up right now, what picks the Colts have left. two pick Two first-round picks is absurd. but You could definitely tell they're going all in this year for the Super Bowl, trying to give it everything they got.
00:43:34
Dakota Zeigler
are Is this making the statement that they're not going after another quarterback? Daniel Jones is their guy. They're going to pay him.
00:43:41
Lord Hinkie
but Oh yeah, probably.
00:43:43
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, this is... they They're making a statement here. They can win with who they have. And, I mean, I i like their wide receivers, but i like I'm a Pittman guy. You know, Alec Pierce is one you can never really take your eyes off of. Josh Downs has shown some really nice flashes.
00:43:58
Dakota Zeigler
But, I mean, they don't have any studs. Tyler Warren is the stud. JT is the stud. I mean, think Daniel Jones is above average, but not phenomenal, I guess is what I should say.
00:44:12
Dakota Zeigler
Kind of curious to see how they approach you know this offseason. Do they go to try to make some moves? i mean, do we... I would thought... Let me back up here. I thought the Colts were going to trade...
00:44:27
Dakota Zeigler
Anthony Richardson. I thought this is where they were going to trade him and see what they were going to do with him. team A team like the Raiders, someone just needing a half-decent backup.
00:44:39
Dakota Zeigler
Half-decent, that was funny. But like I thought they were just going to see what they could get for him and shop him. And I mean, I know he's not great, but I thought that was going to happen.
00:44:47
Lord Hinkie
isn't he Isn't he out for the year with his orbital thing?
00:44:51
Dakota Zeigler
Is out for the year? I know he's on IR, but I didn' think he was out for the year. I mean i haven't kept up haven't kept up with him.
00:44:55
Lord Hinkie
Regardless. how How did you get Aaron... We're not talking about Richardson.
00:45:03
Dakota Zeigler
but I'm just saying... I don't know. just I'm just talking. But I guess I didn't think they would fully commit to Daniel Jones.
00:45:03
Lord Hinkie
How did you get Richardson into this?
00:45:14
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, i guess that's fair.
00:45:14
Dakota Zeigler
And this is this is what I was... And that's kind of the point I was getting at. like I thought they would make some moves. Or you know at least keep a first to see if... I mean, they're not taking a high enough to take arch but Arch Manning. But...
00:45:27
Dakota Zeigler
But like Drew could fall, you know, get a later first and see if Drew fell, get a later first and see if someone else falls there. I don't think Daniel Jones is a long term solution.
00:45:38
Dakota Zeigler
i mean, of course, yeah, they may take someone in the second or third, but he's been looking good.
00:45:39
Lord Hinkie
I don't know man
00:45:43
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, I guess I got to stop hating on him.
00:45:43
Lord Hinkie
He's looked really, really good this year. Yeah, I'm i'm at the point to where like I am totally fine with Daniel Jones.
00:45:46
Dakota Zeigler
I guess. Yeah.
00:45:49
Lord Hinkie
I consider Daniel Jones the Sam Darnold level of quarterback where you put him in a good situation, he can get the job done, and he's fine for fantasy.
00:46:00
Lord Hinkie
That's what Daniel Jones is.
00:46:01
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. And like, I guess I'm still, you know, low-key hating, low-key hating on Sammy wheels, even though he keeps reforming.
00:46:03
Lord Hinkie
Shane Steichen, man.
00:46:08
Dakota Zeigler
And I mean, like you said, we've seen a lot of these reclamation projects come out and Hey, Baker's actually good. You know, Baker and Sam Darner were on the same terrible Carolina team and they're both lighting the world on fire.
00:46:17
Lord Hinkie
They're playing the scout team defensive end.
00:46:19
Dakota Zeigler
So I can't believe they did that.
00:46:22
Dakota Zeigler
But like, yeah, I guess we got to kind of like for, you know, casuals like me, I guess if you'd say, you know, changing our mindset on some of these quarterbacks that are, and you found a new home.
00:46:34
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, definitely. think it was a great trade for the Jets. They got so much value, let alone the two first-round picks, getting another good wide receiver to just to throw in the mix, even if he doesn't work out, just throwing him in the mix there next to Gary Wilson.
00:46:49
Lord Hinkie
And i obviously the Colts are playing very well this year, and I think they will finish the year strong. There's still the chance they come out next year and they're the same old c Colts, and you have their first-round pick, and it's like,
00:47:01
Lord Hinkie
10 to 15. And if this trade looks amazing, I love this for the jets. We're going to kind
Jets Rebuilding Strategy
00:47:06
Lord Hinkie
of move this onto the next trade they made, but they trade away Quinn and Williams, defensive tackle, stud defensive tackle for the jets, trade them to the Dallas Cowboys for a 27 first round pick and a 26 second round pick and a defensive tackle named Mozzie Smith. So Mozzie, but even in that contract negotiate or trade negotiations,
00:47:27
Lord Hinkie
like the Jets made sure they got the earliest 27 first round pick depending, depending on the Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers pick. So amazing trade for the Jets. Again, i would say in total with these two trades, they got three first round picks and a second round pick and two decent prospects just to like run through. So Ninja thoughts on this jet team, just hitting reset and doing the whole Lord hinky effect, buddy.
00:47:56
Ninja
Love it. It's exactly what they needed to do. An NFL team actually hitting the full reset is something we haven't seen in a while, and it's overdue. Because this team was buns, proven by their record.
00:48:10
Ninja
And as I argued with these guys before we even hopped onto the podcast, I think their head coach is fine. They just didn't have the talent. So now you give him a proper rebuild where he can find you know a quarterback, all those missing links on the defense, on the offense. And like I told these guys earlier, I think their offense can be good.
00:48:27
Ninja
I think you know like a receiver away in the draft... And a quarterback. And this offense is really good. They built their offensive lineup over the past few years. I think it's really good.
00:48:39
Ninja
They need like a wide receiver two or three. And a quarterback. So whether that's this year or next year, they gave themselves the flexibility to kind of do what they want this year. If they don't like a quarterback this year, that's fine.
00:48:53
Ninja
Now they have ammo in 27 where we expect the class to be very, very, very good.
00:49:01
Ninja
I think it's wheels up. And I wish more NFL teams... Like, I understand you're an organization. You need to make money. You have to, you know, try and win. But I love a good teardown.
00:49:15
Ninja
I love a good rebuild. I love a good Lord Hinckley effect. it It's great. I've been doing it a lot of my fantasy leagues. And... you know With all the accumulated draft capital, you can get some pretty good studs in return, even if you don't use those picks on draft night players.
00:49:34
Ninja
like You can trade those for solidified guys now, which I think it just gives the Jets a lot of fluidity. They're more liquid. They're not so locked into certain guys.
00:49:47
Ninja
So I think it's a great move.
00:49:51
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, i think it's an incredible move for the Jets. Someone actually hitting the Lord Hinckley effect, resetting. I mean, now they have two first-round picks and a second-round pick, extra second-round pick this year.
00:50:03
Lord Hinkie
Three 27 first-round picks. Just incredible value for the Jets. And like I said earlier, I even like them taking the chance on a young Adonai Mitchell, a young Mozzie Smith.
00:50:15
Lord Hinkie
If these guys don't work out, sure.
00:50:16
Lord Hinkie
They're basically three free throw-ins. free throwin in these massive trades. And if
Eagles' Strategic Trades
00:50:23
Lord Hinkie
they, one of them pans out, this makes these look even, even better.
00:50:28
Lord Hinkie
few more trades we have to hit on. Rashid Shahid got traded from the saints to the Seahawks for a couple of late round picks. I think this just kind of adds to the, who is that wide receiver to there in Seattle for me? I think it's going to be a mixture between Shahid and Horton.
00:50:44
Lord Hinkie
I think Cooper cups pretty much out there in Seattle.
00:50:47
Lord Hinkie
But I like this for Shahid. I like this for Sam Darnold. I even like this lot for JSN. I think it does more for the players around Shahid in Seattle than it does Shahid himself. are your guys' thoughts?
00:51:00
Dakota Zeigler
I can see that happening. I love Rashid Shahid. Jealously, I wanted him to become a Bronco. I think he is a very good wide receiver and doesn't cost a ton right now.
00:51:13
Dakota Zeigler
So I thought he was a perfect trade candidate candidate. I do really enjoy him going to Seattle. Like you said, it's going to help that whole entire Seattle offense out. Damian is going to break that down for you more in a little bit here.
00:51:25
Dakota Zeigler
But I think this, Damian and I were talking about this a little bit beforehand. This may be the biggest offensive move before the trade deadline. So, yeah, go ahead, Damian.
00:51:35
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, he types in the chat. Am I? I said, yeah, you you got this down. what What's your thoughts on Shahid here? Yeah.
00:51:40
Ninja
I love the move. i don't know about breaking him down. I just think he's a great ad. So I talked about it earlier. I like Tori Horton on the outside. And I think Rashid Shahid is kind of interchangeable with JSN, whether it's slot or outside.
00:51:56
Ninja
So I think it's a really good move where you just have kind of that flexibility. Because Cooper Cup hasn't been a guy. so you kind of give yourself some more youth and definitely a lot more speed.
00:52:09
Ninja
So you're threatening out guys over the top, which I don't think you were before. But now you have that over-the-top ability, which I absolutely love. but then I'm going to throw it back to Gary.
00:52:21
Ninja
I want to get into some, maybe were not fantasy relevant guys, but a couple of the birds. What?
00:52:28
Ninja
Uh, pickups this off season. Uh, Jalen Phillips for a third Jair Alexander for a seventh and Michael Carter, Jr. Or the second, not junior.
00:52:39
Ninja
I don't even know what that means. And a seventh. we upgraded our, Cornerback room, I know I messed that up real bad. Leave it alone.
00:52:53
Ninja
I wish, and I was speaking earlier to Zig, I think before you got in the room, I wish we didn't give up John Mechie because i actually wanted to upgrade on the wide receiver four spot.
00:53:04
Ninja
That's one spot where I thought we could have been a little more active because after Jahan, it's who cares? Yeah.
00:53:15
Lord Hinkie
Is that you throwing it to me? I didn't want to cut you off.
00:53:16
Ninja
yeah Yeah, no, no, I'll throw it to you.
00:53:18
Lord Hinkie
For me, I didn't really care too much. I like John Metz, the person and the player. I would have loved to keep him, but that doesn't bother me too much. Elijah Cooper is a wide receiver for the Eagles that i really like, number 80. performed really well in training camp, and he's been lightening up at practice.
00:53:36
Lord Hinkie
I think he'll be a fine wide receiver four for us for you know the foreseeable future. a lot of fours in there. And I think Michael Carter, same thing pretty much with the Jair Alexander trade is it just throws another no nugget into the cornerback room and just just just seeing what sticks.
00:53:55
Lord Hinkie
You're just throwing things at the wall and just seeing what kind of art you kind of make. And for me, I think Jair Alexander has a chance to either A, be a leader on the secondary, which we might need, like a vocal leader, coach kind of thing on the sidelines.
00:54:10
Lord Hinkie
or he can kind of slightly produce as an outside corner when we need him to.
00:54:16
Lord Hinkie
i don't I don't mind both of the moves. They're basically free, like trading sixth and seventh round picks. like Who really cares? So I'm fine taking the shot. I love this Jalen Phillips trade, and more and more i break I look at it, I love it even more.
00:54:32
Lord Hinkie
i know, Damian, you weren't super happy about it initially when it happened. I'm hoping I can kind of convince you otherwise. Yes, we did trade away a third round pick. And yes, it was the
Eagles' New Acquisition: Jalen Phillips
00:54:42
Lord Hinkie
Dolphins third round pick, which what it looks like right now will probably be like a 70s pick. with So very good third round pick.
00:54:50
Lord Hinkie
We already have two more, two other third round picks. We're going to get another conditional third round pick from the Milton Williams going to New England contract. So we will have, even after this trade, three third round picks.
00:55:04
Lord Hinkie
With that being said, we're only paying Jalen Phillips at one and a half million dollars this year. the Dolphins actually took on $5.1 million dollars of his contract for this season.
00:55:16
Lord Hinkie
So not only are we getting a rental, we're paying rental money for Jalen Phillips. And then on the contrary, there's two options that work out with Jalen Phillips. Either A, he's not that great, and we let him become a free agent, and he signed with somebody else.
00:55:32
Lord Hinkie
And then we get another comp pick from him signing with someone else from free agency. So we basically trade this third-round pick for maybe a fourth or a fifth next year from that comp pick, or two, he does perform really well for the Eagles, and we end up giving this guy a decent little contract, and here we go. We have another defensive end for the next three or four years.
00:55:52
Lord Hinkie
I love both the options. I think he's going to work well, very well in this Vic Fangio system like he played in down in Miami. I love this deal. We need a defensive end, and this is perfect. And he's a young kid. He might just be really good.
00:56:07
Ninja
See, I like everything you're saying, but knowing Howie, I wanted a home run.
00:56:15
Ninja
this was This was a gap shoot double.
00:56:15
Lord Hinkie
I went up my house, Garrett, too.
00:56:20
Ninja
I wanted a home run.
00:56:22
Ninja
I wanted Howie to close the door, time frame, and get a deal done with a big name. Because that's what we need on the defensive front. We don't just need another guy.
00:56:34
Ninja
And I have a bad feeling Jalen Phillips is just going to be another guy. We need a solidified stud in there every week. And I would have brought the farm for Miles Garrett.
00:56:48
Ninja
The farm. Jordan Davis in three firsts. I would have done it.
00:56:53
Ninja
oh God, I'm choking on my own words how much I love it. But i think I think we did okay. I think we could have done better. Is my only like.
00:57:07
Ninja
Qualm here. Is i wanted I wanted to shoot for the fences. We're still in the title race. We're still on a title run. Who cares about picks right now? I don't care about a comp pick in 2028.
00:57:20
Ninja
Don't care. I won a Super Bowl. This year. When the team is still together. When we still have a young secondary.
00:57:32
Ninja
Let's pay a guy. let Let's bring on a contract. Let's get a solidified stud now. And then figure it out. Rather than be in this limbo term with this defensive end room, which hasn't been good.
00:57:48
Ninja
Let's figure it out. I don't know.
00:57:50
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, my my only argument to that is maybe Miles Garrett just wasn't available. you know Maybe Max Crosby wasn't available. i know I know for almost a certainty.
00:58:01
Ninja
he can I'm saying they can be available. I'm saying they can be. Pay the price.
00:58:09
Lord Hinkie
I'm also, I know Howie Roseman makes phone calls to everyone about everybody.
00:58:15
Lord Hinkie
So if there was a price that existed for a Miles Garrett, or a Max Crosby, and he didn't pay it, sure. I'm just saying for the fact, for what was available, especially with that Miami Dolphins team that publicly announced, like, hey, come and get him, getting Jalen Phillips, young, defensive end, played in this Vic Fangio system, had six and a half sacks in eight games for Vic Fangio before he got hurt two years ago.
00:58:43
Lord Hinkie
um'm I'm very happy about this move. Yes, I would have loved Miles Garrett, but if you're going to give me Jalen Phillips for a third. I'll take it every day.
00:58:51
Ninja
So I'm also upset because there's another guy down here that got traded that I like even more.
Broncos' Future Prospects
00:58:56
Ninja
Keon White from the Patriots got dealt to the Niners. I like him a lot more than I like Jalen Phillips.
00:59:06
Lord Hinkie
he is he's He's produced like a third of what Phillips has done.
00:59:12
Ninja
I think intangibles, and i don't think he had the sack numbers that Phillips has had. But intangibles, like speed, no.
00:59:19
Lord Hinkie
Intangibles? Jalen Phillips, like, one of his his known thing is that he's a speed rusher off the edge. That's literally what Jalen Phillips is.
00:59:31
Ninja
I like Keon White Warren. i I don't know.
00:59:33
Lord Hinkie
Keon White's an interior three-tech defensive end. Like, he plays more defensive tackle than does defensive end.
00:59:41
Ninja
Which is wrong by the Patriots.
00:59:41
Lord Hinkie
He's like a Brandon Graham.
00:59:42
Ninja
He'll play edge at the Niners.
00:59:44
Lord Hinkie
Sure. i think I think we're kind of getting off the back.
00:59:46
Ninja
I hate talking. Yeah, move on. Move on. Move on.
00:59:50
Lord Hinkie
We're going to go to the wherere going to start breaking down these games. so Zig, why don't you hit me with a transition like we're a podcast? Whoa, look at that.
00:59:59
Lord Hinkie
Man, i get I get so excited when we do it the right way.
01:00:00
Dakota Zeigler
I'm glad to be part of this. don't have to listen to more birds talk. Let's talk about a team that really matters right now.
01:00:05
Dakota Zeigler
Now I would love, let me be honest here.
01:00:09
Dakota Zeigler
I really am rooting for a, a birds, uh, you know, birds, Broncos game, like an actual meaningful, uh, post-season game between us would just be exactly.
01:00:10
Ninja
Oh, it's Zix and Church's blood.
01:00:22
Lord Hinkie
I like the Super Bowl. okay Literally the only option we have.
01:00:26
Dakota Zeigler
That's when it would happen. It is. And that's what I want to see.
01:00:30
Dakota Zeigler
i are Could you imagine the conversation we would have on here if that would ever come true?
01:00:36
Lord Hinkie
It would never end. Thursday night football.
01:00:40
Lord Hinkie
Raiders at Broncos. Just the absolute grudge match. The fishant divisional matchup here. in Denver, it makes me love the Broncos pretty heavily. If it was in Vegas, I think I would
01:00:52
Lord Hinkie
Maybe think the Raiders can pull off a sneaky little upset. But Raiders side of things, Brock Bowers, Ashton Gentry, call it a day. They just also traded away Jacoby Myers to the Jacksonville Jaguars as well. So that wide receiver room is a mess. i don't really want to have I don't want anything to do with it, and Geno Smith kind of stinks.
01:01:10
Lord Hinkie
So Bowers, Gentry, and I'm out. Broncos side, give me Cortland Sutton. I'm riding the hot hand with RJ Harvey. And after that, I don't love Dobbins in this matchup. Don't really love any of any of the other wide receivers because I think it's going to be a low-scoring game.
01:01:26
Lord Hinkie
So give me Sutton. Give me Harvey. Bo Nix if you have to. Call it a day. Any qualms?
01:01:35
Dakota Zeigler
No. Damien, do you have anything but to say before I start here?
01:01:43
Dakota Zeigler
Okay. So, who is the wide receiver one for the Raiders?
01:01:53
Dakota Zeigler
Thornton, Trey Tucker, Beck?
01:01:56
Ninja
I love that you said Trey Tucker.
01:01:56
Dakota Zeigler
it I mean...
01:01:58
Ninja
I don't know why, but it brought such joy to my heart.
01:02:02
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, this team...
01:02:03
Ninja
I have him everywhere.
01:02:03
Lord Hinkie
I'm not saying he's good.
01:02:05
Ninja
i have him everywhere.
01:02:05
Lord Hinkie
not saying he's good. Because he's the wide receiver one for the Raiders.
01:02:07
Ninja
so he's good. He's good. He's good. Maybe.
01:02:11
Dakota Zeigler
This team needs help outside of Gentry and Brock Bowers. Bad. Bad. mean I mean, I haven't seen enough from Thornton or Beck to be they call them nobodies, but I haven't seen anything.
01:02:29
Ninja
So you're saying I should trade for them because they're going to get increased rolls?
01:02:33
Dakota Zeigler
Maybe. think.
01:02:36
Ninja
See, I would trade for a Jack Beck right now.
01:02:41
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, for like a third?
01:02:41
Dakota Zeigler
For a third, yeah.
01:02:44
Dakota Zeigler
hope Hope they improve when they actually get a quarterback.
01:02:47
Dakota Zeigler
Anyway, let's talk about the the better team here. But this game scares me. As a Broncos fan, this is you know this is the game that we we I've said it all year, we lose to the tight ends and we lose to the running backs.
01:02:59
Dakota Zeigler
And you know who's a really good tight end? Who is a
01:03:06
Dakota Zeigler
generation yeah i was just say generational
01:03:08
Ninja
How you guys ever had any doubt. Unreal.
01:03:11
Dakota Zeigler
And Gentry, we know how good Gentry can be. That little bowling ball can just run through players. His contact balance is insane. So this is the game that in a divisional matchup, one we need to win. This is the one I could see us you know faltering.
01:03:25
Dakota Zeigler
Again, it's going to come down to our offense. Can we move the ball? And we should be able to. I really hope. Mad Max, please take it easy on us this game. Love you, guys. This is you know Sutton, Harvey, I could see it, or Dobbins. I mean, right now it's a pick your poison. I'm really hoping we see Harvey see some more work.
01:03:46
Dakota Zeigler
They love Dobbins up there, though. But the one name I want to bring up that I'm wondering if you guys know about. So over the season so far, Sutton has seen 62 targets.
01:03:58
Dakota Zeigler
He has 38 catches, 566 yards, and four touchdowns. Another wide receiver on this team had seen two more targets as 64 targets, one less catch with 37 catches, a few less yardage, 385 yards, and it's the same four touchdowns.
01:04:16
Dakota Zeigler
Do you know who that is?
01:04:19
Dakota Zeigler
Wide receiver.
01:04:20
Lord Hinkie
4834. Troy... forty eight thirty four
01:04:27
Dakota Zeigler
Troy Franklin.
01:04:30
Dakota Zeigler
I mean... This is another 44 writing down Gary's bleep out there. A guy I'm keeping my eye on, not only as a Broncos fan, but as a potential trade for candidate. This is a guy who's talked about a lot, and I think he you could still get him pretty cheap. No one's really hyped about Troy Franklin.
01:04:53
Dakota Zeigler
Marvin Minns is still the two. Corlin Sutton, we just signed a contract for, but we have it out for him next year already. So if Troy Franklin takes the next leap and takes a step up, he could be the next guy for the Broncos.
01:05:08
Dakota Zeigler
We're still dealing with a ton of dead cap from ru Russ and everything. So,
International Game Preview: Falcons vs. Colts
01:05:12
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, as much as I would have loved to see a wide receiver trade happen before the deadline, odds were against us just because we have, yeah, we can't afford it.
01:05:18
Lord Hinkie
can't afford it.
01:05:20
Dakota Zeigler
As much as I would love to see it. that's why That's why I was banking on Rasheed, just because I knew he'd be on the cheaper end of things. But like I said, we have some good wide receivers. I mean, think about this. and Next year, it could be Troy Franklin 1, Marvin Mims 2, Pat Bryant 3.
01:05:36
Dakota Zeigler
I wouldn't hate it. If Franklin takes a step up, wouldn't hate it. So a guy to keep your eye on, a guy you could take cheap if you're, you know, slacking in a few leagues, one want to want a boom-bust potential guy.
01:05:50
Dakota Zeigler
we've seen what Bo can do with his number one. He hyper-targets players at times. So anyway, that's my rant. I'm taking the bar Broncos to win this one, but I'm going to be holding on for dear life during this whole game.
01:06:01
Lord Hinkie
We're be puckering the whole time. You should be.
01:06:03
Dakota Zeigler
I will be.
01:06:04
Lord Hinkie
I'm just going to throw the one caveat I have for what you said is if your wide receiver room next year is Troy Franklin, Marvin Mims, and Pat Bryant, you should be worried.
01:06:16
Ninja
Whoa! Pat Bryant's a stud.
01:06:17
Lord Hinkie
You should be.
01:06:20
Lord Hinkie
And he was the third one I named in that list.
01:06:20
Ninja
You watch your mouth.
01:06:22
Lord Hinkie
Jesus, that sucked. Moving on here, Falcons-Colts in Germany. we got another 9.30 a.m.
01:06:28
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
01:06:29
Lord Hinkie
so Set your alarm. Set your lineups early. We got a German game this week. Who knows? Really? they Out of either of these teams. So boom, so bust, so who and so what.
01:06:43
Lord Hinkie
For me, stick to your studs. B. John, Drake London, Kyle Pitts for the Falcons. I don't love Penix in this game, especially going overseas. Don't love it.
01:06:53
Lord Hinkie
Colt side of things. JT, Tyler Warren. Stick to Tyler Warren. I know it's tough the past couple weeks, but It's Tyler Warren. you got stick with him. Michael Pittman I like a lot. Daniel Jones.
01:07:06
Lord Hinkie
Probably okay throwing him in your lineup. I don't love it this week. Any qualms, fellas?
01:07:12
Dakota Zeigler
No qualms. I want a quick little game here. What is Pittman ranked on the year so far? Anyone know?
01:07:19
Lord Hinkie
Wide receiver 15. fifteen
01:07:24
Dakota Zeigler
Got a guess, Damian?
01:07:27
Dakota Zeigler
Pittman ranking this year.
01:07:31
Dakota Zeigler
Go way higher. Both of you.
01:07:36
Dakota Zeigler
Higher. Higher.
01:07:38
Dakota Zeigler
He's number six on the year so far.
01:07:41
Dakota Zeigler
Isn't that shocking?
01:07:42
Lord Hinkie
Not a lot of touchdowns either. What's he got, like three touchdowns?
01:07:45
Dakota Zeigler
I don't know off the top my head. But yeah, not much. i mean, pure PPR guy. He's done this before. He's done it in 2013. 2013. 2023. Goodness.
01:07:53
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. when they're offensive roland When their when their offense is rolling, he rolls with them.
01:07:54
Dakota Zeigler
and twenty thirteen twenty twenty three goodness
01:07:59
Dakota Zeigler
He has more touchdowns than I realized. One, two, three, four, five, six touchdowns.
01:08:03
Lord Hinkie
Oh, wow. I didn't know that.
01:08:04
Dakota Zeigler
So, yeah, neither did I. Anyway, but yeah, Pittman's a stud. I mean, you got to start him at this rate. The way Daniel Jones has been playing, the way that offense has been rolling. This is a start everyone. I agree, but Penix, I think you just got to let him sit.
01:08:17
Dakota Zeigler
But start everyone else. I mean, it could be a really boom game. Like you said, this could be a high scoring game or this could be 10 to 7
01:08:29
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I vote the
Browns vs. Jets: A Defensive Battle
01:08:30
Lord Hinkie
latter, especially with these overseas games. I don't and don't love them. We've only had one good one so far, and yeah it's small sample size. Next game, Browns at Jets. Zig hit me.
01:08:43
Lord Hinkie
Gross. Hit me with the boo, actually. This game absolutely sucks.
01:08:47
Dakota Zeigler
Here, I got an even better one. This game, just a big joke.
01:08:50
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, that's that's a joke. no Don't watch this game. Don't look at this game. The only thing you're doing is you're starting Quinchon Studkins, and maybe matt you're starting Harold Fannin as well.
01:09:03
Lord Hinkie
And then after that, you just don't look at the game. dont Don't even think about it at all. That's a literally it. You're not starting to jet. I don't care who their name is. Garrett Wilson, I believe, is still out.
01:09:15
Dakota Zeigler
I was going to say, you have to hear your bet the under. I was going to say, Garrett Wilson was in, I was going to see what the under was, but he's out.
01:09:25
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I'm done.
01:09:25
Lord Hinkie
pretty sure he's still out, if I remember correctly.
01:09:28
Dakota Zeigler
Not worth it.
Panthers vs. Saints: Key Players
01:09:29
Dakota Zeigler
Don't even turn this game.
01:09:29
Lord Hinkie
Ninja, any qualms?
01:09:34
Dakota Zeigler
You won't see it on red zone either. This game just not going to exist.
01:09:38
Lord Hinkie
No. One Quinchon Jenkins, 45-yard rushing touchdown, and that's it. Next game, Saints at Panthers. Almost got the E. It almost got it.
01:09:49
Lord Hinkie
But this Carolina Panthers team impresses me. I do have who cares written in here, but that's just strictly because fantasy-wise, it's probably a who cares game. But Ninja had the quote in here, Panthers are a shocking 5-4.
01:10:04
Lord Hinkie
I think they got a good chance of winning that division, especially if Tempe Bucs can't get healthy. Panthers side of things, love Rico Dowdle. Love, love Rico Dowdle. Tett McMillan, as always.
01:10:14
Lord Hinkie
This might even be an XL game. I'm surprised I'm the one who has to say that. Any Saint? I don't think I care about the Saints. And F. Juwan Johnson.
01:10:29
Ninja
A couple here. One, i didn't have to shout out XL, so that's bless on my part. Two, it was your fault on Jawan Johnson. You can hate him as much as you want. I'm to love him. He did exactly what I wanted him to do.
01:10:43
Ninja
Love you, Jawan Johnson. Go State. Zig.
01:10:49
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, yeah. Olave, I mean, wide receiver two doesn't matter for the Saints anymore. Rashid is good. and It's Vele now. Ex-Bronco, who's like 6'7", or something like that.
01:11:00
Lord Hinkie
It's going be Jalen's poke.
01:11:01
Dakota Zeigler
6'7", for all your teachers out there. Hey.
01:11:04
Ninja
Shut the up. No. Enough of that I'm so sick. Stop that We're an adult podcast. Stop doing that 6-7
01:11:14
Ninja
Are you done with that stuff?
01:11:16
Dakota Zeigler
Oh, it makes me so enjoyable getting you pissed off about it because that's what I hear all day long.
01:11:21
Dakota Zeigler
For my teachers out here, this is for you guys. You know, you guys aren't the ones pissed off right now. Thank you.
Buccaneers vs. Patriots: Offensive Highlight
01:11:27
Ninja
It's gonna be cut from the pot.
01:11:28
Ninja
They're never gonna know.
01:11:30
Dakota Zeigler
Are you going to do it? Are you going to edit it?
01:11:35
Ninja
Junior said he would already.
01:11:35
Dakota Zeigler
Exactly. Move on.
01:11:36
Dakota Zeigler
yeah Exactly.
01:11:37
Dakota Zeigler
Junior junior will leave it in.
01:11:38
Ninja
I would. i would. No.
01:11:41
Dakota Zeigler
fiance, future wife is a teacher. He'll do it for her. Anyway, move on. Who cares about this game? Pats versus Buccaneers. This is going to be... i like this game. I think this is going a fun game.
01:11:53
Dakota Zeigler
So the Buccaneers coming off the bye. Baker's going to ramp it up. You know, we're going to see, I'm hoping for a big explosion. I like a book here a lot.
01:12:04
Dakota Zeigler
I think a book is going to see a lot of work. We're going to see is Bucky Irving back.
01:12:12
Lord Hinkie
Yes, as of now he's expected to play.
01:12:14
Dakota Zeigler
He's expected to play.
01:12:15
Dakota Zeigler
So I'm not the biggest Bucky guy, but again, this game plan, I think the Bucks are a team that come off the bye, have a great game plan ready to go, and are just going to end up rolling the pats.
01:12:27
Dakota Zeigler
Damian and I were talking about this a little bit. Drake May is this hyped-up quarterback. We love Drake May. He's riding super high right now. The guys that played some a strength of schedule was so easy for the Patriots the beginning of the year.
01:12:42
Dakota Zeigler
This is going to be a true test for them. A good game. I think this is a lot of back and forth, but it's going to show is Drake may and limited company because i believe believe booty is questionable again for this next game.
01:12:57
Dakota Zeigler
I don't remember what he had. I know in the notes here, but I'm running high right now.
01:13:02
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, he's not out, but he's questionable. And I think for the better part, he just doesn't play.
01:13:07
Dakota Zeigler
But Hendo, I'm out. I can't play Henderson. They gave the rushing touchdown to an absolute nobody, a jag off the street. i I can't bring myself to stardom anymore, and I i hate it.
01:13:21
Lord Hinkie
Just so disappointing.
01:13:22
Dakota Zeigler
I hate it. So I'm playing Drake May. I'm probably letting the wide receivers just... I mean, that's weird, starting Drake May and not wanting the tight end or the wide receivers. But, I mean, it's kind of Josh Allen.
01:13:36
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, it's kind of like Jordan Love.
01:13:36
Dakota Zeigler
Same type of situation. So, for the Buccaneers, you start everyone who who's healthy. Yep.
01:13:45
Lord Hinkie
Whoever's playing, roll him out there.
01:13:48
Dakota Zeigler
Any qualms?
01:13:49
Lord Hinkie
No qualms, Ho-Sig. You did a great job there, buddy.
01:13:51
Dakota Zeigler
Cool, thank you.
01:13:53
Lord Hinkie
Very smooth. The only thing I would say with the Patriots side, I think I do. Actually, I don't. I thought about a little bit more. I was thinking about playing double H, Hunter Henry, but he's let me down two weeks in a row.
01:14:06
Lord Hinkie
Probably sit in double H.
01:14:08
Dakota Zeigler
True boomer bus guy.
01:14:09
Lord Hinkie
True boomer bus guy. Buccaneers known to have
Ravens vs. Vikings: High-Scoring Anticipation
01:14:12
Lord Hinkie
a good linebacker group with Avante David. Probably not go be a good matchup for double H. I'm kind of liking not hosting. So Ninja, you got most of the notes on the pod, buddy. Do you want to finish up and host the rest of these games?
01:14:27
Ninja
I got you, buddy. i As one of the few paid guys here who actually does research and help out with this podcast, Ravens have Vikings.
01:14:35
Ninja
I think this is going to be a high-scoring affair. i love this game on paper. It could turn out very differently. But for the Ravens, I love Lamar. I love Henry. I love Mark Andrews.
01:14:47
Ninja
Still wondering where it likely is. i think Flowers is a decent play this week. And then for your Vikings, JJ, JA, and JJ again are all very good.
01:14:59
Ninja
I think Hawk is decent. Running backs are a bit gross, as you saw last week with Jordan Mason shooting a fat dud. On your screen. And Aaron Jones not doing much better.
01:15:11
Ninja
Any qualms here boys.
01:15:15
Ninja
You love that write up.
01:15:15
Dakota Zeigler
casually throw that in there. No qualms.
01:15:18
Lord Hinkie
Shooting a fat dud.
01:15:27
Lord Hinkie
so good. i need a second.
01:15:35
Dakota Zeigler
No, no qualms here, Damien. I mean, this this should be a good game. It should be a high school... High scoring. Yeah, I'd say high score, high scoring fair. I said, this could just be a good matchup either which way.
01:15:48
Dakota Zeigler
Just got to hope the Ravens defense still stinks and we know their offense can get it done. So nope.
01:15:56
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I think – oh, sorry, Zach.
01:15:56
Dakota Zeigler
The next. Go ahead. Go ahead.
01:15:59
Lord Hinkie
I think this is a Jordan Addison, Justin Jefferson game. I like them both a lot. If you're going to pick a running Mac, I think I'm definitely going with Aaron Jones.
01:16:10
Lord Hinkie
I honestly don't mind Aaron Jones in this matchup. I think with you what he showed me last week, I'm okay playing him. Jordan it Mason is out of my lineups everywhere.
01:16:21
Lord Hinkie
He's droppable in redraft leagues. I don't think he's a guy anymore.
Bears vs. Giants: Expected Domination
01:16:26
Ninja
that. And moving on to our next game, Giants have Bears shootout?
01:16:33
Ninja
bear Bears defense got torched last week against the Bengals.
01:16:37
Ninja
It made it close last week. but Just kidding. BTA a Bears this week. Give me the Bears out, right? I think Dart is a decent start.
01:16:48
Ninja
I'm starting Theo, and then I'm out. Give me all the bears, especially money guy. How you guys feel about that?
01:16:56
Lord Hinkie
Big money guy. No qualms for me. Love it. I don't know. I don't think it's going to be a shootout necessarily because I don't know if this Giants team could keep the ball moving on the road in Chicago.
01:17:10
Ninja
That's why it was a question mark, and then I changed it to a JK BTA.
01:17:15
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I think this is like a Bears win by 10 14 kind of game.
01:17:19
Ninja
Bears win by 20. Shock down.
01:17:23
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, no qualms.
01:17:25
Lord Hinkie
get Get right game for Odunze. Need it.
01:17:28
Ninja
Let's go. Jags at Texans here. This is a wait and see if Stroud is a go. i think Stroud will be a go. But I don't know yet.
01:17:39
Ninja
For the Jags, I don't really like anybody. Even after they got Jacoby Myers. I think maybe a Brian Thomas Jr. game. But it's a really bad matchup against the Texans. i don't really like anybody here.
01:17:53
Ninja
I think if you can avoid the Jags, you do. If Stroud is a go, it's Nico and I'm out. Higgins, Schultz, and Kirk I think are all good streaming if you have no other options.
01:18:06
Ninja
And I think the running backs are pretty gross too. I lean marks if you really have to, but on paper... In fantasy, I don't like this game at all, especially if Stroud is not a go. Thoughts, fellas.
01:18:21
Lord Hinkie
I agree. If Stroud ends up being out, I'm probably out on this game. I'll probably start Nico just because I have to and hopefully just gets hyper-targeted. But other than that,
Jaguars vs. Texans: Fantasy Impact
01:18:32
Lord Hinkie
I want anything to do with anything.
01:18:34
Lord Hinkie
And I want to throw it to you guys. The Jags trading for Jacoby Myers. Does this just add a whole lot of grossness to this wide receiver room behind BTJ?
01:18:45
Lord Hinkie
And even then, like next to BTJ because he hasn't been that good this year as either. Is it like maybe the slightest bump for Trevor Lawrence? i don't really know how to take the trade.
01:18:58
Ninja
I don't really, so what concerns me is with getting Jacoby Myers, they still have Brian Thomas Jr.
01:19:01
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
01:19:04
Ninja
where there was those weird trade talks where they were going to trade him. I don't and't believe them at all.
01:19:10
Ninja
I think this points towards more, and you guys aren't going to like to hear this, Travis Hunter at corner, which I love exponentially, but
01:19:14
Lord Hinkie
Travis Hunter.
01:19:17
Lord Hinkie
Well, and also I think
01:19:20
Lord Hinkie
I also think it means his injury is probably worse than we think it is.
01:19:25
Ninja
he might be out the year.
01:19:28
Dakota Zeigler
that's That's what I was leaning to. I i don't think it's a knock against Travis Hunter. Just more of, hey, the team is doing all right right now. We need another guy. And Jacoby, we talked about this before. Jacoby's been very a very underrated asset for almost every team he's played on and just keeps getting moved around.
01:19:47
Dakota Zeigler
It's almost like a Brandon Cooks, I feel like. He's decent wherever he goes. Not great, but doesn't suck. And then just you know keeps getting traded.
01:19:55
Ninja
I like that comparison. I think that's a fair comparable. Like I said, anyways,
Bills vs. Dolphins: Key Matchups
01:20:01
Ninja
we move on. and yeah I'm not a good host. I'm trying my best.
01:20:04
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
01:20:06
Ninja
Bills at Dolphins, a sneaky trap game for the Bills here. For the Bills, you start everyone and their nephew besides Keon Coleman, in my opinion.
01:20:16
Ninja
And then for the Dolphins, it's H&M Waddle. Sneaky Malik Washington game. In my notes, it's not that. And I don't know why it's not that.
01:20:25
Lord Hinkie
What happened there, buddy?
01:20:26
Ninja
But it's really funky. But it's Malik Washington.
01:20:29
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. Yeah, Mahi, Mahi, Washington over there.
01:20:31
Ninja
As a sneaky stream. yeah Any qualms, boys?
01:20:38
Lord Hinkie
A very, very sneaky trap game. i don't know how it possibly could be. Maybe because it's my in Miami, but i I hate the fact that i you probably have to say Keon Coleman, which, I mean, you're doing for the most part, but it's the Miami Dolphins, man.
01:20:57
Lord Hinkie
Like, if you can't put up a good fantasy game as a wide receiver against the Dolphins, then something's wrong with you.
01:21:05
Ninja
Hot take, he has a terrible outing.
01:21:09
Lord Hinkie
Man, it's just so sad.
01:21:11
Ninja
That's why it's in my notes.
Seahawks vs. Cardinals: Game Insights
01:21:15
Lord Hinkie
Other than that, I got no qualms.
01:21:18
Dakota Zeigler
I'm just guaranteeing the abyss over here. Just, you know, I victory lapped Keon Coleman week one, and I regret that.
01:21:27
Ninja
Cards at Seahawks. Seahawks are a sneaky, great team, and I think they got improved after the trade deadline. Love me some Sammy Wheels, and I'm really interested about this Kyler situation, if you'll recall way back when.
01:21:44
Ninja
On a long-ago podcast, I said these things about Kyler Murray, and god dang if I'm not good at what I do. Anyway.
01:21:53
Lord Hinkie
I'm going to find that clip.
01:21:55
Ninja
yeah i'd I'd appreciate it. It would only boost my stock.
01:21:59
Ninja
Cards, I'm starting Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride as normal. No one else.
Kyler Murray's Injury Impact
01:22:05
Ninja
And then for the Seahawks, give everybody a good look. give me Give me some JSN. Give me some Torrey Horton. Give me some Rashid Shahid.
01:22:14
Ninja
Give me a big bounce back for AJ Barner and the running backs as always. It's questionable, but throw them in there. Why not? Mozzie. Any qualms?
01:22:24
Dakota Zeigler
I think you're doing phenomenal, Damien. I'm loving this, and you're killing it.
01:22:26
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. No qualms for me. I just want to give you your flowers in the Kyler situation.
01:22:32
Lord Hinkie
It looks like his whatever injury he had is a lot worse than I thought it was. and He's going to out like four to six weeks of what I heard, possibly the year.
01:22:40
Dakota Zeigler
Now the foot.
01:22:42
Lord Hinkie
So they're going to be moving forward with Jacoby Brissett. But I think they were very willing to, which is sign that maybe they're okay not playing football with Kyler Murray.
01:22:54
Dakota Zeigler
This is the team you're watching in the draft this upcoming year to see who they take.
01:22:59
Ninja
Yeah, Junior, you have to do me a favor and find that clip, because I said that like two and a half years ago now, three years ago now.
NFC Title Contenders: Rams vs. 49ers
01:23:07
Ninja
Anywho, we move on.
01:23:08
Ninja
Rams at 49ers. Rams are a legit NFC title contender, and somehow, someway, by the magic sorcery of the Niners, they're still staying alive?
01:23:21
Ninja
I leave Rams, but I wouldn't put money on it. I think it's going to be a really close game, probably by a single score, probably by three. And I think it comes down to the final two minutes.
01:23:33
Ninja
For your Rams, start your normal suspects. You know your Kyron Williams, your Devontae Adams, your Puka Nakua, if he's a good go, Matt Stafford. I think T. Ferg is a very good sneaky streaming option in two 10-end leagues.
01:23:49
Ninja
And then for the Niners, CMC is a dog. Give me Kittle and I'm out. I'm curious about the Pierce Hall injury. I don't really know what's going on there. i think he should be good this week, but we don't know.
Injury Communication Frustrations
01:24:01
Ninja
And if he's not good, one of the wide receivers is going to have a good game. Whether it's Jawan Jennings or Kendrick Bourne. It's a coin flip. I'm not taking that chance. Any qualms, fellas?
01:24:16
Lord Hinkie
and have any comments to start, but i just wanted to kind of rant about this whole Ricky Pierce all situation. I feel like he's been week to week for six weeks now.
01:24:27
Lord Hinkie
like why Like, why not just either throw this guy on IR, tell us he's going to be out three or four weeks, Like, give us any more detail about whatever injury he has going on.
01:24:38
Lord Hinkie
It's been so fuzzy. It's been so, like, backdoor and back alley. Like, every week he's like, he's questionable, and then he's probable, and then he's doubtful, and then he's out. And then he's questionable, and then he's questionable, then he's questionable, and then he's out.
01:24:52
Lord Hinkie
i don't I don't understand what's going on with him. It's really frustrating because I have him in a lot of places. Like, just be transparent with what's going on. It's like.
01:25:01
Dakota Zeigler
and They can't. It's the same thing they did. Think about last year. What did they do with CMC? Oh, he's week to week. Oh, he'll be back. Oh, you know, now he has this major issue. Oh, he's just he didn't play all year.
01:25:14
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, this is a legitimate question. And this is gross. Who comes back first? Brandon Ayuk or Ricky Pearsall at this point? The 49ers are...
01:25:28
Dakota Zeigler
Awful. You know, I don't know how they get fined more often. Don't get fined more often with their reporting on these players and these injuries. know You know, you can never believe anything that comes out from the 49ers news-wise for injury designations.
Banter: Common Sayings
01:25:43
Dakota Zeigler
You just can't.
01:25:44
Dakota Zeigler
You literally play it by year. Year. Y-E-A-R. Year. Because you don't know.
01:25:51
Ninja
I'm glad we learned how to spell in that segment. Anyways, Lions at Commanders.
01:25:55
Dakota Zeigler
but hold on hold on hold on do you know what the actual saying is you know the actual saying is played by ear e-a-r okay
01:26:02
Ninja
I understood where you were going, but you kept spelling it and I hated it for an adult podcast.
01:26:04
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, so does everybody else.
01:26:08
Ninja
Anyways, why is it?
01:26:08
Dakota Zeigler
most people don't know what the actual gary says sayings wrong all the time so i just want to make sure i had the saying saying it wrong no you you say them wrong so often they become a staple in the podcast so
01:26:21
Lord Hinkie
Don't put the nail in my coffin. Okay.
01:26:24
Ninja
He'll do that himself. Anyways, Lions at Commanders.
Lions vs. Commanders: Strategy Preview
01:26:28
Ninja
BTA Lions win big after being stunned last week. I feel bad for the Manders.
01:26:36
Ninja
Really gross Daniels injury. Like, that was nasty. hated seeing that.
01:26:41
Ninja
For your Lions, start them all. It doesn't really matter who. Give me Jamison Williams. Give me David Montgomery. give me Give me all the guys. And then for the Manders, give me Ertz and I'm out as a JCM guy.
01:26:54
Ninja
I'm trying not to start JCM if I don't have to
01:26:57
Lord Hinkie
You shouldn't.
01:27:00
Lord Hinkie
I have a few. i love this game from Rossi Brown. I really feel like this is he needs to get on the board big time. i think this is going to be a Gibbs game as well. Obviously, you're starting those guys, but I'm just letting you know.
01:27:13
Lord Hinkie
I'm excited. i think they're going to very, very high fantasy outputs this week. And for the commander side of things, JCM stinks. Chris Rodriguez outperformed him last week, looked way better as a running back, ended up scoring a touchdown as well.
01:27:28
Lord Hinkie
i just yeah This kid's fire, I think, is burned out. And hopefully they can turn it around. But then again, they have a backup QB with Mariota. and don't I don't think it's happening.
01:27:39
Lord Hinkie
But also, I want to throw it out there. I think Mariota is a fine super flex start as well. Not great, but fine.
01:27:47
Ninja
I agree completely.
01:27:47
Lord Hinkie
Mostly just because he runs. Yeah.
01:27:52
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I'm not even Go ahead. Just move on.
Steelers and Chargers: Team Analysis
01:27:55
Ninja
Cool. Steelers at Chargers Sunday Night Football. The Steelers looked good last week. the the definite The defense is finally putting it all together.
01:28:07
Ninja
Chargers almost lost to the Titans. Yikes. Oof. Vidal was horrendous. For your Steelers, I think you have to start Metcalf, Rodgers, and Warren.
01:28:17
Ninja
And I don't mind a sneaky little Pat Friermuth shoutout.
01:28:22
Ninja
And then for the Chargers, give me all the lad. Give me Herbert. Give me Gadsden. I think Vidal has a decent Bounce back weak. Keenan Allen is decent. I think QJ is decent as well. Kind of a coin flip there.
01:28:41
Dakota Zeigler
I love Pat, but i can't start any of these tight ends. I still can't do it. Sorry. can't Won't bring myself an Arthur Smith's offense.
01:28:52
Ninja
You're not hurting my feelings. now I'll say that. Okay.
01:28:58
Lord Hinkie
So we're not playing Roman Wilson's egg or
01:29:02
Dakota Zeigler
Damien, move on before I mute him.
Game of the Week: Eagles vs. Packers
01:29:05
Lord Hinkie
I'm joking. I'm joking.
01:29:08
Dakota Zeigler
I will call myself out here real quick. Sorry, Damian. I am shocked you guys didn't...
01:29:11
Ninja
Ask me to move on and then cuts me off. Let me go.
01:29:14
Dakota Zeigler
Well, I'm just... I was shocked that this hasn't happened sooner, that you guys did not see my one waiver claim that I put in for him and in our our main league. Not the ZNG league, but our main league.
01:29:24
Dakota Zeigler
And then I believe it went to... Did Gary get someone got him? one of Someone else went for him and like way overpaid for him. So I put in minimum bid, but I shot you guys didn't tear me up for putting a waiver claim in for him.
01:29:38
Ninja
Yeah, don't care enough about Roman Wilson. Anyways, Eagles at Packers.
01:29:42
Dakota Zeigler
You guys just like dogging on me.
01:29:43
Ninja
Nah, shut up. It's not your podcast anymore. It's mine. I'm hosting. It's mine. Eagles at Packers Monday Night Football. Hey, Junior, say it with me.
01:29:56
Lord Hinkie
Game of the week. Yes, buddy.
01:30:00
Lord Hinkie
I didn't know you were going to spread it around. i thought you'd go rate this game of the week.
01:30:03
Ninja
I was trying to get you to catch up. and then you it's It's fine. We're both there. and Birds should be good off a bye. Packers looking for blood after losing horrendous game to the Panthers.
01:30:16
Ninja
For your birds, it's your usual. Start all of them. It's going to be gross. Some of them aren't going to hit, but you got to start them. I think Goddard has a really good day. That's just me putting it out there.
01:30:28
Ninja
It may not happen. For the Packers...
Christian Watson: Deep Play Potential
01:30:32
Ninja
Kind of gross with Kraft on IR. Obviously, Love, Love, loves Jacobs. But now Love can't love Kraft.
01:30:41
Ninja
So give me just Jacobs and Love in this game. I think Daubs is an okay shout. i talk Like, it's kind of gross after Jacobs. And you guys are laughing. And you guys would be right.
01:30:57
Lord Hinkie
I'm sorry. You're a little like, love, love, can't love craft because love, love, golden.
01:31:01
Lord Hinkie
And so now love, love, I just crack it up.
01:31:06
Lord Hinkie
But no, I got no qualms. i This is going to be a great game.
01:31:09
Ninja
yeah I made this before golden was hurt and It's fine by me It's fine by me We can't be too hot too early You know what I mean
01:31:12
Lord Hinkie
Yes, I believe golden, golden probably going to be out. I think from the news I heard, it's it's going to be a great football game. I don't really know what to think of it.
01:31:23
Lord Hinkie
I think this might be an L for the birds, though, in Lambeau. It's going to be a tough one. know. If we're going to lose one, it's at Green Bay, especially after they just lost to the Panthers.
01:31:38
Lord Hinkie
But we're coming off a bye. I don't know.
01:31:41
Ninja
It should be a good game.
01:31:41
Dakota Zeigler
Gary, as a as a previous Christian Watson owner, what's your thoughts on him ramping back up? couple games healthy. Looks like they're starting to increase his usage.
01:31:54
Dakota Zeigler
Golden probably isn't playing.
01:31:56
Ninja
I saw he got hurt last week.
01:31:59
Ninja
Was I the only one that saw that?
01:32:01
Ninja
Or is it not... I saw him roll up an ankle or something. He hobbled off the field last time I saw Christian Watson.
01:32:07
Dakota Zeigler
There's no there's no designation.
01:32:08
Lord Hinkie
That's Christian Watson for you.
01:32:12
Ninja
Glad I don't have any shares.
01:32:16
Lord Hinkie
you saying I was a former Christian Watson owner, I still got him on all of those teams.
01:32:20
Dakota Zeigler
Are you still? thought you would have got rid of him. i thought i thought you would have got rid of him
01:32:26
Lord Hinkie
Because he's been on IR since week nine of last year. So, yes, I still have Christian Watson. i I like what I'm seeing so far. i think he is the mix that this offense needed.
01:32:40
Lord Hinkie
let alone i don't know. Football-wise, I think he is a good asset for this football team because he gets to go deep. Romeo Dobbs gets to work over the middle. Matthew Golden gets to do his little you know running all over the place thing.
01:32:54
Lord Hinkie
It works well for the football team. I don't know if it's going great for fantasy. it's the same It's going to have to catch a bomb or two. Like, it's just, you're never going to be able to predict them. He'll have either a good week or an awful week.
01:33:07
Lord Hinkie
He's going to be like that the rest of his career.
01:33:10
Dakota Zeigler
That's fair. I see. He's just the athletic freak. And, you know, we've seen flashes of what he can be, but but like you said, he's never going to be consistent enough to start most weeks.
01:33:21
Ninja
I'm throw it back to Junior. it felt weird hosting there.
01:33:25
Lord Hinkie
Did it feel weird?
01:33:25
Ninja
I wasn't prepared at all.
01:33:27
Lord Hinkie
right, buddy. I was going to let you go.
01:33:27
Ninja
I was like, well, I can. i was just mid-conversation.
01:33:31
Lord Hinkie
that's okay. I got you.
01:33:31
Ninja
you know I'm pulling a zig doing like 30 other things right now. And it's weird because it's almost 11 o'clock, but I have things I have to do now, you know family-wise.
01:33:41
Ninja
Yeah, it's weird. i don't I don't like this at all.
01:33:43
Lord Hinkie
Oh, God. So we got to wrap up this pod.
01:33:44
Ninja
But I will continue hosting because Junior, I'll give you a break, buddy.
01:33:46
Lord Hinkie
Okay. All right.
01:33:49
Ninja
I'm looking for that pay raise.
01:33:49
Dakota Zeigler
hey I mean, I'll take it over for free here.
01:33:54
Ninja
You shut up. You mute yourself.
01:33:57
Dakota Zeigler
How about I transition? Now you can go.
01:34:01
Ninja
Oh my god, I forgot about a transition. How could I do such a thing?
01:34:04
Dakota Zeigler
This is why i should host.
01:34:06
Ninja
Get out of here. The ZNG Dynasty Parlay of the Week, boys. And, uh, sorry to let you guys down. Me and Zig suck. I know.
01:34:18
Ninja
We stink. We don't know what's going on with football.
01:34:20
Lord Hinkie
Josh Allen scored two touchdowns just to rub it in both the offenses.
01:34:22
Ninja
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:34:23
Dakota Zeigler
You wanted Bijan.
01:34:25
Lord Hinkie
I did want B. John.
01:34:27
Ninja
i say Well, I took...
01:34:28
Lord Hinkie
I still bet B. John.
01:34:31
Ninja
So the listeners know, I'm not a bad better. I've been very plus money this year. I've been actually kind of hot.
01:34:39
Ninja
I don't want to mean to toot my own horn a little bit, but we record on a Tuesday, not a Sunday.
01:34:42
Dakota Zeigler
the last...
01:34:44
Ninja
But I've i've been hot.
ZNG Parlay of the Week
01:34:46
Dakota Zeigler
Out of the last 15 bets we placed, you know one for each of us for the past couple of weeks, last five weeks, we fit twice as a collective group.
01:34:55
Ninja
that's That's recorded. you know
01:34:58
Ninja
But other parlays off stream, I've been making some money.
01:35:03
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, we only suck for you guys.
01:35:04
Ninja
But anyways, guys. yeah we I only suck for you guys, which sucks.
01:35:09
Ninja
But you know we're here for it. And I'll start us off with the ZNG Parlay of the Week. I'm gonna keep it very simple. Give me Jay Jatz. He had a good game last week. I expected to kind of roll...
01:35:22
Ninja
Into this week and the Vikings are playing the Ravens who have had a very suspect secondary. I think JJ McCarthy take advantage. I think Jay Jets has a big game.
01:35:36
Ninja
Hopefully he scores a touchdown, but knowing my luck, probably not. So maybe fade this parlay. But we move on to Zieg. What is your pick for the ZNG parlay?
01:35:46
Dakota Zeigler
and My buddy over there, Gary Buck Jr., hyped up my guy couple minutes ago. Sun God, Amon Ross St. Brown against the Commander's defense. that This should be an easy smash for Sun God.
01:36:01
Dakota Zeigler
Like you said, I love Gibbs in this as well, but... We're taking a little bit, should be plus odds. Again, we're doing this early. There is no odds out, so we're just going by who we think is going to win.
01:36:12
Dakota Zeigler
These odds are going to be super low for you. This is going to be the lowest odds we've ever had, guaranteed. But butre hopefully we're we're banking on a win here for you guys. So I'm taking Amin Ra, St. Brown, scoring you anytime touchdown.
01:36:26
Ninja
So I'm going to cut it in here real quick before Junior gives hip his pick. I think this is going to be one of the higher ones, actually. I think we're all going to be positive this week, which really boosts the parlay.
01:36:37
Ninja
Because this is the first time in a long time I haven't gone running back, which is very strange. So probably bet all your running backs this week. But Junior, your pick of the week.
01:36:50
Lord Hinkie
I gotta start it off with saying i love, love, love both of your guys' picks I was the third one to add the touchdown to our parlay this week and I wanted to do Justin Jefferson, he was already taken I wanted to do Amin Rossi Brown, he was already taken Love them both So my pick this week Kind of throwing it off a little bit Give me George Kittle Bounce back San Fran against the Rams I feel like he always shows up against the Rams too
01:37:22
Lord Hinkie
Mack Jones, Brock Purdy, don't matter.
01:37:25
Lord Hinkie
Give me George Kittle to assert himself in that offense a little bit. Be a red zone, you know, inside the 20s guy like he always is. So I like Brittle.
01:37:36
Lord Hinkie
Give me a little piece of that Brittle bar.
01:37:40
Dakota Zeigler
And we're getting the holiday season. Brittle's out everywhere. So let's hope.
01:37:43
Lord Hinkie
Shout out Brittle.
01:37:45
Dakota Zeigler
and And he is another guy that he hasn't been fed too much recently. Coming off an injury that first came back, he did nothing.
01:37:52
Lord Hinkie
I was told that hungry dogs run faster.
Successful Betting Strategies
01:37:59
Ninja
I don't know what that was supposed to mean.
01:38:01
Lord Hinkie
That's it's a Jason Kelsey quote from the Super Bowl team, dude.
01:38:03
Dakota Zeigler
I was going to say, thought you guys were going to run with it.
01:38:08
Dakota Zeigler
Even I knew that one.
01:38:09
Dakota Zeigler
I just wasn't my team. hu
01:38:11
Ninja
Oh, I'm sorry. It's late.
01:38:12
Dakota Zeigler
Kids got kids going to eat.
01:38:13
Ninja
It's late. i I'm going out that it's late. all right
01:38:15
Dakota Zeigler
All right.
01:38:16
Ninja
Anyways, I'm sorry, Junior. God, you're so upset. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Anyways, the ninjas...
01:38:22
Dakota Zeigler
You're lucky you have the last part. You'd be covering the pod.
01:38:25
Ninja
Zig, you shut your mouth. This is the Ninja's Parlay of the Week. God, I feel bad letting Junior down. I should have known an Eagles quote, and I missed it.
01:38:35
Lord Hinkie
It's okay. It's okay.
01:38:36
Ninja
Dang it. But we're back.
01:38:37
Dakota Zeigler
Jason Kelsey at that.
01:38:40
Lord Hinkie
All right, let's move on.
01:38:40
Ninja
Yeah, it's tough out here. It's tough out here. But anyways, boys, I've been so hot with these tight end parlays. Not the ones I brought you guys, which stinks. But I've been smoking on Sunday morning.
01:38:54
Ninja
So I decided, you know what? I'm just going to do tight end parlays until I start to suck at those two. So it's another tight end parlay of the week. I have no odds because DraftKings, you stink on Tuesdays.
01:39:07
Ninja
There's no odds for anybody. I'm out here trying my best searching. Nobody's available. But for the Ninjas part, give me AJ Barner anytime. I think he has a big uptick this week.
01:39:22
Ninja
Give me Sam Laporta against that pitiful commander's defense who is susceptible to tight ends. Give me Mark Andrews to continue the good vibes down there in Baltimore.
01:39:34
Ninja
And then a Rondé Gatston anytime. one Turning out to be one of Herbert's favorite targets. I don't think this is a smash, but about as close as you can get to a 50-50 draw as you can get.
01:39:47
Ninja
If I'd imagine, if you were to bet those now, you're looking at well over 12,000 odds. So, Mozzie, you're making money if it hits.
01:39:57
Lord Hinkie
Mozzie, make sure to bet these guys next week.
01:40:02
Dakota Zeigler
yeah Yeah.
01:40:04
Ninja
June, you forgot that. And since I'm leading the podcast, I'll throw it to the boys. Zig, before we leave, do you have anything to say to the fellas out there?
01:40:13
Dakota Zeigler
If you're following the trend this week, you should be betting Manangai, Brashard Smith, Travion Henderson, and RJ Harvey.
01:40:20
Dakota Zeigler
Again, I wouldn't do that either this week, but that's the trend that kind of seems to be rolling here. Now, thank you guys for listening, and we're working on some more stuff out here while recording this pod. Yes, while recording this pod, I put together a contract that we're going to start sending out to some people to try to get some more names on this podcast for you guys.
01:40:38
Dakota Zeigler
We're looking up, boys. up and up every week and it's always a good time here. So, uh, Ninja, thank you for hosting this last part here. You're doing a phenomenal job. we may have to adjust some of your contract here, but again, why am I not even paid and I'm still doing all the
Podcast Banter: Contracts & Leadership
01:40:52
Dakota Zeigler
contract work and everything?
01:40:53
Dakota Zeigler
What the heck?
01:40:53
Ninja
Well, because you're because you're not doing any other work.
01:40:55
Lord Hinkie
Contract. Hold on. Contract work. you You typed in chat GPT. Hey, build me a contract for fantasy football.
01:41:03
Lord Hinkie
And you just hit enter and then copy and paste it.
01:41:05
Lord Hinkie
Act like you're working over there.
01:41:07
Dakota Zeigler
Hey, I'm doing just as much as everyone else in this world.
01:41:07
Lord Hinkie
Don't you start.
01:41:10
Lord Hinkie
Don't you start.
01:41:10
Ninja
That's absolutely wrong. Junior, anything to the people before we throw it out?
01:41:15
Lord Hinkie
No, I don't got nothing. I kind of felt look this is the kind of switch up we needed. I feel like I was hosting. every podcast, all the podcasts for the past couple weeks.
01:41:24
Lord Hinkie
it was kind of fun being like the side guy who would just kind of give his takes and then, you know, sit here quietly, which is cool.
01:41:31
Dakota Zeigler
i think I think I'd even be willing to do a couple games. You know, switch it up. Everyone has a few games.
01:41:36
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think this is fun because it switches up a little bit.
01:41:36
Dakota Zeigler
try Try to keep it moving.
01:41:38
Ninja
See, I'm game for that. Everyone but Zig. Everyone but Zig and host.
01:41:42
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, Zig can't host, cannot have him.
01:41:43
Ninja
Yeah. Can't happen.
01:41:44
Dakota Zeigler
i got I got one game I just took over and I got a compliment for it. and Now I'm saying I can't do it.
01:41:49
Ninja
Not from any of us, so who cares?
01:41:51
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I mean, did you listen to that 10-minute Broncos rant? Damn.
01:41:56
Ninja
But anyways, guys, thank you for listening to the podcast.
01:41:58
Dakota Zeigler
You want to talk about birds?
01:42:00
Ninja
Oh, God, this guy. I'm trying to do outro right now. You need to be quiet for a minute, okay?
01:42:04
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, shut up.
Staying Positive: Community Support
01:42:06
Ninja
Thank you. But for all you guys out there, thank you for listening to the podcast. As we said, you know, we did get a couple submissions in for a swoosh, like I appreciate it. So if you're the person out there who submitted those, thank you very much. They were very good.
01:42:21
Ninja
We might be using those in future episodes. you Can't wait to see. And as we said before, we have a couple podcasts lined up, especially in the next coming weeks, maybe after dark, maybe normal episodes, who knows?
01:42:35
Ninja
Talking a lot of ball. Maybe some 26 college class. What?
01:42:41
Ninja
Like we've been finally saying we were going to do. It might be coming.
01:42:43
Lord Hinkie
For the last, like, six weeks.
01:42:45
Ninja
Yeah, it's coming. We can only take your so long. Zig, cut that.
01:42:52
Ninja
But thank you for listening to the podcast.
01:42:52
Dakota Zeigler
We were doing so good.
01:42:54
Ninja
Well, I had to give you some work to do. Thank you for listening to the podcast. And, you know, be that shining light out there. You know, be a smiling face. Give somebody out there a hug because I'm sure they need it, especially, you know, the wintertime's coming. It's getting dark a lot earlier, especially after daylight savings time and whatnot. It's getting dark really early.
01:43:16
Ninja
So, you know, you're going to have that seasonal sadness come about you. But just know you got your boys with you. You got your friends who are willing to do anything for you. So stick with those guys. Talk to those guys.
01:43:28
Ninja
And I bet, you know, they probably want to talk some football just like you do. So keep it out there. Stay open. Be a good person out there in the world. And leave an impact, you know?
01:43:40
Ninja
Just be a smite. Smite. Jesus. Smiling face out there.
01:43:43
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, smite down your enemies.
01:43:45
Ninja
Smite down your enemies. Kill all who get in your path. Kidding. Cut all that. But but just being so just be a smiling face out there. I know it's it's a blessing for me to talk with the boys on a weekly basis. And I think you guys should too.
01:44:00
Ninja
And until the next one, where I won't host it again because I'm stuttering all over myself, I love you guys. Peace.