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26 Rookie WR Pre-Draft Rankings
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Rankings have begun! Join in to listen to Ninja and Lord Hinkie talk about their favorite WR's in this upcoming draft!
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Introduction & Hosts
00:00:11
Speaker
Welcome everyone to the ZNG g Dynasty podcast, where three buddies hang out and talk football, and it just so happens to be recorded. Please enjoy this episode with Dakota Production Ziggler, Damian the Ninja Moore, and your host, Gary Lord Hinkey Buck.
Podcast Theme & Host Transition
00:00:40
Speaker
Ladies and gentlemen! Welcome back to a brand new edition of the ZNG Dynasty Podcast. And as you can tell, it's the one, the only, the ninja back here hosting temporarily. I just wanted to do the intro, really. We're going to let my other co-host, other the one, the only, the absolute stud muffin himself...
00:01:04
Speaker
Lord Henke, take over here. The reins. I just needed to feel back on the horse. You know, I'm coming off of a DL week where I wasn't feeling so good. I'm trying to work my snaps back in to earn back my spot, but he keeps holding me back. He keeps trying, you know, hold this spot for me. So he's got it for one more week. ah Junior, how you doing, buddy?
00:01:23
Speaker
I'm doing good. I'm glad we can get you some spring training reps during the offseason this year. But that's what the Combine's about, buddy. That's what spring training's about. That's what training camp's about. um And that's why we sit here and we scout a bunch of wide receivers during the offseason. That way we're ready. come game time.
00:01:40
Speaker
um And yeah, that's the episode we have for you
Scouting Wide Receivers
00:01:43
Speaker
guys. This week, we are doing our wide receiver rankings for the rookie class coming into the 2026 class. um And man, it was a fun one to do a lot of hours.
00:01:54
Speaker
whole lot of time scouting. lot of notes. I got two and a half, three three and a half full pages of notes for all these wide receivers that we scouted. We did a total of 18 names for you boys. like we have um just Just before we get into it, you guys better appreciate the work me and Ninja have been on on the side for you guys, not only ourselves in our rankings and our personal egos and, you know, you know, friendly battles, but what we do for you guys, Ninja.
00:02:27
Speaker
Yeah, as a busy guy here, out here working two jobs, to put on the absolute performance I did to try and get all these guys scouted because we had a list. And then Gary so happened to, on Friday night, say, hey, you need to look at these three guys. Have to. Which added three more hours to my recruiting time. It was a battle. It was a fight. But so happy to put this out for you boys. As always, there's going to be some hot takes in here. ah We love to see it. And I feel like this year, it's going to be more of the on the junior, not me.
00:02:59
Speaker
Yeah, i have I definitely have some spicy takes. And obviously, we'll get right into it. But first...
Jalen Waddell Trade News
00:03:05
Speaker
We have a couple NFL news maintenance things to take care of. Big, big trade happened today. Jalen Waddell was traded from the Miami Dolphins to Dakota's Denver Broncos. I almost forgot what city they're in. um I'm like, Dakota Broncos? That doesn't make any sense. But Jalen Waddell goes to the Broncos for their 20 their 2026 first round pick 30th overall this year. The Dolphins also get a third and a fourth and they send a fourth to Denver um including Jalen Waddell. But we talked about it earlier in our little group check. I think it's a great trade for both sides. Obviously, this Miami team is just
00:03:49
Speaker
Empty in-house like they're just dropping all their bombs. They're Lord hanking it up. We're just going to be as bad as we can for a couple years. Let's eat the $175 million dollars of dead cap we have for this season. Let's suck ass and let's just move on Let's be good in like 2028. Let's get Arch Manning next year. Let's get Lenora sellers. Let's be really, really bad.
00:04:10
Speaker
And for the Broncos. Gorgeous trade. Obviously, they've been shopping this 30th overall pick. It feels like since the offseason started, there was A.J. Brown talks in there early on. Obviously, it goes together, and they were able to get a deal done for Jalen Waddell.
00:04:26
Speaker
But this is a win-now Broncos team. You need to build around Bo Nix. You got a great offensive line. You might need an another running back to pair with RJ Harvey, but now you got two very good wide receivers and like a hodgepodge of very decent at your wide receiver three. This team is very good. They add in probably – I like him more than Cortland Sutton, but in their schemes of things, he'll probably be their wide receiver too.
Trade Strategies: Dolphins & Broncos
00:04:49
Speaker
Love it. I think it's a great move for both teams.
00:04:52
Speaker
Dakota's, he's been dancing the entire day doing the waddle. So I would wish he would be on this podcast. But Ninja, thoughts on waddle going to the Denver Broncos. Yeah, I just want to give an update. I just got a message from Zig and he's doing the gritty over sound effects of this trade. um No, it's a great trade for both teams. I said this earlier today when this came out. oh I think it's beautiful for both teams. The Dolphins, as much dead cap as they're eating this year. Oh my God, it's gross. um It's what they need to do.
00:05:21
Speaker
You clean house, you start anew, and that means that their first round pick is up in the air. Who knows? I think they're going to try and trade back, but this is going to be a lot of rumors of what happens here, where they go. um Because I think really now they could go wide receiver and no one would bat an eye because it's a position in E now. But for the Broncos, the team that I'm sure Zig wants us to talk about, it's, as you said, gorgeous. It's everything you want.
00:05:49
Speaker
The problem is... I don't know how Jalen Waddle fits into an offense without Pat Bryant in it. i just I just don't see it. So will he see the field? Who knows, but a good move for both teams.
00:06:02
Speaker
that's Shout out Pat Bryant. um I saw a tweet earlier in my head. I actually think that Miami Dolphins are very key to trade up in this draft. I feel like they can move up from 11 to try and get a guy that they fall in love with. um Their total draft capital for this year has been they have two first round picks now at 11 and 30. They have their own second round pick. They have four third third round picks, a fourth, a fifth and two seven. So they have a lot of picks in the third round. I think they can kind of pair up a couple of those, um maybe move up into the top 10, top five area to get one of those studs in this year's draft, probably on the defensive side if they want to, or they can just take a bunch of decent players because Lord knows they need every single position on their team.
00:06:46
Speaker
But yeah, and obviously it's great for the Broncos. um The other move that happened during in this last week's hiatus, Justin Fields got traded to the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that was with it today or yesterday um as we're recording this.
00:06:59
Speaker
Looks like Mahomes' knees probably not 100% where the Kansas City Chiefs want it. Justin Fields feels like an insurance piece. Could do worse than Fields. I don't think it's really relevant unless he ends up starting like six games.
00:07:15
Speaker
Yeah, who cares? This has no indictment on anything we do in fantasy football.
Impact of Player Movements
00:07:20
Speaker
Zero. agree. Dallas Goddard re-signed with the Eagles for a one-year deal worth like $7 million. dollars Great deal for both sides. Bird saved some money actually signing him, which is beautiful. Howie just Howie and all over himself. And the Eagles band-aid the tight end position for one more year. And I'm sure Dallas is happy to be back in Philly and running it back. So love it. Love it for both sides. Any qualms?
00:07:45
Speaker
No qualms here. It's great signing. um The main thing here is for people wondering, I don't think this impacts Philly at all with what they're going to do 23. So if Philly loves Kenyon Sadiq or Eli Stowers at 23, don't think this changes the game whatsoever.
00:08:01
Speaker
agree. I think if he is there and how he wants to draft the tight end, he will. Um... I just don't know. I don't think he'll be there at 23. And even if he is, I don't know if the Eagles who value the tight end position like we think they should, knowing how the Eagles drafted the last 10 years.
00:08:19
Speaker
I think that's all the news and notes, buddy. I think we're ready to get into this
Focus on Wide Receiver Rankings
00:08:22
Speaker
podcast. Are you ready to get into our 2026 wide receiver rankings pod? This is going to be a heater. Let's go. Strap up, ladies and gentlemen.
00:08:33
Speaker
And we're off. um We are going to be starting from the bottom, bottom to the top. Call me Drake. we We're going to be starting at 18. Yes, we did actually scout 18 wide receivers for you guys.
Evaluating CJ Daniels & Malachi Fields
00:08:46
Speaker
At the bottom of our list, and we'll kind of slowly work our way up. um These bottom guys, obviously, we're probably not going to have as many notes on, but once we get towards the 12-ish range is when we kind of talk about guys that we have both.
00:08:58
Speaker
really like and you're going to be hearing us breaking down as we kind of go up our list we'll kind of see how each me and ninja have this player ranked and then we'll discuss that player and talk about why I'm right and he's wrong so to start off the list I I think we're pretty consensus here at 18 at our bottom floor in the basement we have I have CJ Daniels wide receiver out of Miami Yes, bottom floor is C.J. Daniels, wide receiver out of Miami.
00:09:28
Speaker
um For me, C.J. Daniels, wide receiver out of the 6'2", 205. He's a six-year senior, super, super senior at that. um He played four years at Bibbidi-Bibbidi, one year at LSU, and then the final year at the U. Battling injuries a lot, especially in 2026. Missed a lot of games with a hamstring injury. But going into it, kind of expected him to just be like a decent outside wide receiver.
00:09:54
Speaker
um And then that's kind of what I saw. He had like the most disgusting, nasty catch week one against Notre Dame. I'm sure you know what catch I'm talking about. And those kind of catches flashed on tape. Like he would come down with some kind of nasty contested catch where the corner's all over him and he comes down with it. But other than those like big flashy plays, like every blue moon, he didn't really offer you much as an athlete, as a wide receiver. route running like he still had a decent amount of drops on tape i didn't love it coming from cj daniels i think you would agree yeah i very much agree cj daniels out of iberty biberty wherever he's at love it liberty university by the way if no one gets the joke uh that there's not much to add here i that there wasn't anything special with this kid just off of rankings that i saw it's a reason he made the list god i wish i saved my time
00:10:49
Speaker
Exactly.
Skylar Bell's NFL Potential
00:10:50
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And we're going to save everybody else's. Moving on to, I guess we'll go through my rankings and then we'll just compare them to yours and kind of go from there. At 17, for me, I have Malachi Fields, wide receiver out Notre Dame.
00:11:03
Speaker
Where do you have Malachi Fields? At 17. Look at us. This is not going to last too long and where we have these players ranked in the same place. Malachi Fields, 6'4", 218, fifth-year senior, big-bodied outside wide receiver.
00:11:20
Speaker
Played at Notre Dame this last season after transferring from UVA. um i was looking to kind of see him play big and utilize his frame because obviously he's massive and he needs to be able to be an X deep ball contested catch kind of wide receiver. And I really just didn't see that on tape. Played a lot weaker than I would expect him to be.
00:11:39
Speaker
He ran a 4'6", 140 at the combine. He's a long strider, but he's definitely very slow on tape, and you can tell that even watching him throughout the route. He lined up multiple times, and I'm sure you probably saw this too.
00:11:52
Speaker
He lined up a lot at Notre Dame at tight end, like in like a tight end kind of role where he's blocking on the line. To be honest, I think he'd probably end up being a better tight end than he would a wide receiver at this point. um I think he was pretty decent after the catch for a guy his size. I did see him make a couple people miss, and I think he does have some good hands. But for me, I just think he's just the safety net wide receiver, and he's going to be like a fourth wide receiver on some NFL team. I just don't see i don't see much potential from this guy unless he's – honestly, if he moves to tight end, I might be involved.
00:12:27
Speaker
Any qualms? Many qualms. I wouldn't be involved with him even if he was a tight end because he's too light. But as you said, 4'6", 140, 38-inch vertical, 10-4 broad jump, and he did make 13 All-ACC 2024.
00:12:46
Speaker
There's not much here, guys. There's really not. There's no separation whatsoever. i think he's okay at 50-50 balls, but it's mainly because he's
Jacoby Lane's Prospects
00:12:56
Speaker
6'4", and the other guy is not.
00:12:58
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Like Junior said, he's okay after the catch. I do have here a good run blocker. Very good run blocker. There's no route tree here.
00:13:08
Speaker
there There was not much a scout. There's not much to like. There's no good release package. There's no burst. There's there's nothing here. And one of the few comps I have, by few I mean many, comps I have for these wide receivers, he is Keyon Coleman, dot, dot, dot, Johnny Wilson, because I don't know if he's playing tight end or not. They're the same guy.
00:13:29
Speaker
Don't hate that, actually, at all. I... Yeah, I got no qualms. Next on our list, I think is probably where we're going to start ah kind of differing. At 16, it's so tough because I've been debating on where I want to put him.
00:13:45
Speaker
At 16, I have Skylar Bell. Wow. I do not have Skylar Bell at 16. But we can talk about Skylar Bell, though. We can talk about Skylar Bell. The part that I hate is the fact that I have him at 16 is that I don't hate the player.
00:14:00
Speaker
like I think he's fine. I just don't i don't have as many exciting things to say about him. For one, I think you're nuts before you go into why he's 16, but I think you're crazy. I know. Even as I'm saying it, I'm like, he has to be higher. um I think he's a solid – he's probably going to end up being like a fourth, a third or fourth round option in the NFL draft. He's a fifth-year breakout, which for me is instantly a red flag if you're a fifth-year breakout for at a wide receiver position.
00:14:29
Speaker
He played at UConn, didn't play against the best competition, and he was utilized mostly as like a screen-type player. like That's kind of just what he did. He just got the ball in screen and passes.
00:14:42
Speaker
um I kind of want to see him show more in like the run-after-the-catch game, which I think he did fine as, but it wasn't
Jeremy Bernard: Divergent Views
00:14:51
Speaker
it wasn't as good as some of the other players on this list that we'll definitely be talking about later.
00:14:55
Speaker
And he's obviously – he's mostly just a slot type. He definitely excels there, but I think he could be little bit more versatile because he does – is He is 192. did around 40.
00:15:08
Speaker
And I think he's pretty good right the catch. I think he's got good hands. um He does well to beat zone. He sits in zone well, um but he's not a deep threat. I didn't see 4-4 speed on tape. He does not win and contested catches at all. if there's any If there's any corner close to him, he's not coming down with it.
00:15:24
Speaker
I kind of saw Jaden Reed. I don't know if this a decent comp or not, but I saw a lot of Jaden Reed in his game, and I'm not a big Jaden Reed fan. Yeah. i And I feel like I'm saying a lot of negative things, but I did like the player. Like, I think he's fine. I just think he's a third round fantasy draft player.
00:15:42
Speaker
Like, i don't I don't see much upside with this kid. Yeah, I like this guy, but I hate this guy. Is what you're saying? Yeah. I think i I obviously, as indicated prior, I have Skylar Bell much higher.
00:15:56
Speaker
um i think he's very versatile. I have here, like you said, i think he can be in Z, but probably better as a slack guy. But I think he does have the capability of being a Z wide receiver at the NFL level.
00:16:08
Speaker
I loved every way he was able to get the ball and they're playing them in the backfield on motions on jet sweeps on all bunch of different stuff. It's kind of what we saw at a Harold fan in last year where he was just all over the alignment and he was just getting the ball because hey, he's a really good player. Get your really good players the ball. Love everything about that.
00:16:28
Speaker
I think he was good after the catch. Not anything special, but enough to make a guy or two miss and get some extra yards. I thought he got to top gear pretty fast.
00:16:39
Speaker
like It didn't take him much time at all to get to his 4-4 speed. And with that 4-4 speed, I think he threatens all three levels of the field. He didn't really show it in college, but there's definitely room for that to grow at the NFL level.
00:16:53
Speaker
I think he's an okay route runner. i think he separates okay enough with the tempo in his routes, and I'll be saying that a lot today. ah The tempo in the routes is a is one of the biggest things I look for at wide receivers.
00:17:09
Speaker
Good cuts in and out of breaks. I think he eats up space and off coverage. He's up to the corner in no time. So when the corner has like eight yard off coverage, he's eaten every bit of that in the first like half second, one second. I love everything about that. Can be a home run guy.
00:17:26
Speaker
not really his game though, in my opinion. I think he's okay. I don't think he gave him enough credit in contested catches. i think he's okay. He's not special. He's not some of the guys at the top of this draft, but he's okay.
00:17:39
Speaker
But his overall play strength, especially at the catch point, is just okay. that There's nothing special there. i have a comp, and maybe it's his ceiling of what he could be.
00:17:55
Speaker
It's a Flowers. That's definitely a ceiling. But I also have a floor comp if you want to hear
Dion Burks: Gadget Player Analysis
00:18:02
Speaker
that. i love it. Arian Smith.
00:18:06
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I see him much closer that level of a player. it's it's It's such a wide range for me. I love this guy. He can be Zay Flowers, but he could also just Arian Smith.
00:18:19
Speaker
But it's I think he's better that ah he's going to finish somewhere in the middle is where he's going to end I think he could excel as a punt returner kick returner in like nowadays NFL, where that is like a valuable piece to NFL teams. like I think he can do well in that kind of role.
00:18:34
Speaker
So where do you where do you have him ranked? I guess we'll just we'll go through my rankings, then just compare to your rankings. I have Skylar Bell at 11. Wow, okay. So we definitely have a pretty decent gap. I have him there at 16. To be honest, if you told me, you i I can move him to 14 in like a blink of an eye.
00:18:53
Speaker
But I guess we can talk about the next couple players we have on our list. For me, my 15th ranked wide receiver is Jacoby Lane. Where do you have Jacoby Lane?
00:19:05
Speaker
I have Jacoby Lane. I feel like my. Oh, yep. It did get messed up a little bit. my
00:19:14
Speaker
My roster. He is at 13. Jacoby Lane is at 13. Yeah, we're kind of in that same tier there. Jacoby Lane, 200 pounds, out of USC, ah big-bodied outside wide receiver, kind of typical X for, like, nowadays NFL.
00:19:32
Speaker
He was a touchdown machine back in 2024. I think he finished, like, 11 or 12 touchdowns that season. And then kind of had a down year in 2025. I was kind of looking to see him separate on tape. That's my big question whenever I'm watching these 6'4", 200-pound wide receivers. like Can you separate at any point during the route? like You need to be able to create so separation either at the line of scrimmage or at the catch point.
00:19:54
Speaker
Some way, somehow you need to separate. And I didn't see that at all. Really? Like, really not at all. um And the other thing I'm looking at for these big body wide receivers is contested catches because that's going to be your game. You're going to thrown the ball with a man on you. Can you come down with it? And I think he did that okay. It's just not as great as I want it to be for a guy who's um He's not fast, but I think he can kind of hold off corners if he does beat them at the line of scrimmage. Like, I'm not saying he's slow. Like, he's not Malachi Fields. um I think at the combine, he ran like a 4-4-8, which I did not see on tape.
00:20:31
Speaker
So I think he's he's definitely not slow, but he's not fast either. um I think he's a sneaky athlete with the with the ball. I kind of did see him make people miss a few times on tape. If he got the ball in short yardage situations, he can make a quick move and get another three yards, but that's really not his game.
00:20:48
Speaker
The biggest thing for me, which is like my negative, he just doesn't run routes. Like he doesn't at all. He rounds off a lot of routes. He gets kind of lazy if the ball is not coming his way.
00:20:58
Speaker
And I really just saw him do, he like he ran goes, he ran digs, and he ran like 15-yard in routes. And even when he ran those 15-yard in, like he was rounding it off, I did not see much footwork from him, no burst, no quickness.
00:21:12
Speaker
um He left a lot for me to be desired for a guy I was, I heard a lot of hype around coming into this. Definitely disappointed me a little bit. That's why I got him down here at 15. What do you think about Jacoby Lane?
00:21:23
Speaker
Yeah, I was definitely one of those guys trying to hype him up a little bit. But after watching Phil, man, I like I told you, tried to have him higher. I couldn't do it. And it's it's it's a gross mention where I have to go back on my words this early in the process. But I did it and I'll do it gracefully. Jacoby Lane, six, four, 200 pounds, four, four, seven, 40, 40 inch fur 10 and a 10.9 inch broad.
00:21:46
Speaker
ten point nine inch broad Elite length. he's He's a lengthy guy. and I think he has really good ball skills. He's a good catcher of the ball. Such a big catch radius. I think he makes circus catches. look like Put it anywhere close to his frame. He's got a really good chance to come down with it.
00:22:04
Speaker
I think he can be a single coverage just on his size. So like you need like a third and two. And you just throw a little like back shoulder to this guy. You're going to get it. It's not
Ted Hurst's NFL Impact
00:22:14
Speaker
a problem. A red zone nightmare.
00:22:17
Speaker
However, there is a lot of negatives with this guy. As much as I wanted to find positive with him, his release package is not good at all. He has, i don't know if you saw this in your film work, but he has this gross ass stutter step. He does.
00:22:33
Speaker
yeah Oh God. It's, it, it slows hate that. That's, that's, I'm glad you brought that up because that slows him down when he does that slutter step. it's Obviously bad it's to create like some kind of, it's to get the corner on like their feet and like their toes and get them to jump. But it actually slows him down throughout the row. It's so bad. It's not good.
00:22:52
Speaker
I hate it. Brout running is not really good. He doesn't create separation. Like you said, i don't think he's great after the catch. I think he's just okay. I,
00:23:04
Speaker
He's a long strider, but there's not home run speed. But for his side, he's elusive in the short area, like short area, like quickness, like a third and five. you show em a You throw him a short little two little in route. He's probably going to get the first down because he is he's elusive enough.
00:23:21
Speaker
But for my second comp of the night, and we'll see how good it goes, he's Mack Hollins. I actually, i have a Mack Hollins comp for another guy.
00:23:33
Speaker
Oh. But I don't hate it for Jacoby Lane. I think Matt Collins is definitely faster, but it's not bad. Is Matt Collins faster than a 4-4-7?
00:23:45
Speaker
I think so. I don't. That was his thing when he out in the draft. it was He was just like a a deep ball burner and like a special teamer. What was that, like nine years ago? What are we doing?
00:23:56
Speaker
For sure. Anyways. But yeah, no qualms there for me. This next guy, I think we're going to be talking about for a while because we have definitely different opinions on him. At 14, I have Jeremy Bernard, wide receiver out of Alabama. i I was not impressed. my the the biggest If you take away one word from my breakdown of Jeremy Bernard, it is underwhelming.
00:24:24
Speaker
That is all. Like, i there is nothing special about this guy. He is a possession-style wide receiver. I wouldn't even call him a slot guy because he doesn't have any quickness or shiftiness about him. He's just... He's like a
Zachariah Branch's Speed and Skills
00:24:36
Speaker
he's like a tight end playing like slot. But then I guess he's not. That's actually a bad comp. Don't listen to that. But he's not an athlete. He's definitely not an athlete. Doesn't show up on tape. he actually ran better at the the combine than I expected him to. um And he's just super underwhelming watching him on tape. I kind of wanted to see him... have a little burst, a little run after the catch ability, um, contested catches, even be, if you're a slot guy, like, let me just see you be like really good against like zone coverage and like be a, be that possession style wide receiver. And he was, but it's like, that's all he was.
00:25:09
Speaker
And I think he's a fine player. I think he's going to be a good NFL wide receiver for a team. like I think he'll go be some teams wide receiver three, and he'll have a bunch of okay NFL seasons. But nothing about him excites me at all.
00:25:24
Speaker
I get so flaccid watching this guy play football. It's so boring. I think he has very good hands. I saw him make a couple of decent catches on tape, and he does really well against zone coverage. He's good in that short intermediate route, but he's he's just he's a wide receiver three for an average football team.
00:25:41
Speaker
That's all he's got ever going to be. like There's no potential for this guy. If he's in Madden, he's like a 73 overall with normal depth. That's all he is.
00:25:52
Speaker
Wow. That's all I got. I differ immensely. So where do you have him right? Jeremy Bernard is my number nine wide receiver. Wow. So we're we five positions different on Jeremy Bernard.
00:26:06
Speaker
Yes. Jeremy Bernard, 206, ran 4'4", 32.5 inch vert, 10.5 inch broad. A good size. I think he could play the Z or in the slot.
00:26:18
Speaker
I think he's very slippery in zone coverage, finds the slots well, the openings well. I think he's good at tempoing his routes. That's one thing I'll keep bringing up in this podcast. Good at tempoing, slowing down, speeding up.
00:26:32
Speaker
Is he tempoing or is he just slow? No. i And we'll get to that later in my analysis. I think he has good vision, especially as a receiver after the ball is in his hands. I think he has good vision with the ball in his hands.
00:26:49
Speaker
ah Good after the catch, if you will. I think he works okay at all three levels of the field. Best in the intermediate part of the field, like, you know, that 10 to like 18 yard little bit. I think he works best.
00:27:02
Speaker
um I like his usage when he's in the backfield. Another guy who saw work in the backfield on jet sweeps, on... screen passes, all that stuff. I like to see that. I think he gets his short area burst quickly and he extends into long strides very fast, especially after he hits like four good steps. I feel like he's already at his top speed. And in my film work, which is where we'll differ, I think he looks faster than his 448.
00:27:31
Speaker
I think he looks about four four flat. in my film work, but for some negatives. Because, you know, I have to do these guys equally. Not a good separator in man coverage, which is one fallback that held a lot of these guys back in my rankings.
00:27:50
Speaker
Not good at the line of scrimmage. Can get bullied and press. ah Didn't really hold much of a chance there. He doesn't separate at the catch point either. So those 50-50 balls are not going his way most times. And he's just not flashy, which is what Junior's looking for. I understand why he's not one of your guys. Yeah, I want someone to flash me.
00:28:10
Speaker
God bless. He's a high floor player for me. And another comp I have, just a high floor type of player. I don't know what the ceiling is, but a high floor. I think he plays exactly like Jacoby Myers does.
00:28:24
Speaker
I don't hate that. I think Jacoby Myers is worlds of a better player, but I don't i don't hate the play style, which I know is what you're going for. let me Yeah, well, let's pre-empt it. I just go with play styles, not this is what they're going to be Let's pre-emphasize that because it's going to get more insane as we go on.
00:28:43
Speaker
yeah Thank you. And as we go on we're going to move on to my 13th ranked wide receiver um is Dion Burks. Before we got into scouting, we had Ninja sent me a text and went, and Junior, you're really going to like Dion Burks. And I was excited to go in and watch his tape. And I do like him. i just don't like him as much as... I think I even would have expected to.
00:29:06
Speaker
Short slot guy, my slot king, if you will. Fast as hell, fifth-year senior. But for me, he's more of like a gadget than he is like a slot-type player. He's the fastest player on the field. I think he ran like a 4-3-40, but Ninja will break that down for you. I think he looks really good, really good route runner, safe hands, and he's very good with the ball in his hands. That's what he excels at. He's definitely a boomer bust type of player. Like you're either getting everything from this guy or getting nothing from him. I think for me, you're watching tape, i don't know if you saw this too, but he played a lot more outside wide receiver than I would have expected him to being only like five nine five ten
00:29:43
Speaker
But he played a lot more like Z y or whatever it is, the outside wide receiver than he is a slot. yeah but he's just a big play waiting to happen. This guy's game is speed, qui quickness, and making people miss. um I think he's great after the catch. um I think his best fit in the NFL is definitely like a speed slot NFL style. I think there's two different forms of slot wide receivers. There's the...
00:30:07
Speaker
Quicker than fast guys that are good in zone, good running slant routes and drags. And then there's speed slots that are good at kind of like outside goes and like deep posts and stuff like that. And I think he excels best at as a speed slot wide receiver, getting him the ball and end arounds, kind of getting them the ball and screen passes. And then kind of spreading one of those like slot corners deep because that's why NFL defenses put slot corners in the slot because they don't have that outside speed. So if he can beat those guys outside and man coverage, I think he can excel in that. um For me, I think he creates space very well. Obviously, he's faster than most people are, but he's short. He's shifty. He's got good footwork. Yeah.
00:30:49
Speaker
Big negative for me, though, decent amount of bad drops on tape. I don't know if you saw these as well. Like, bad drops. Like, right in your hands, they just drop them out. Slant route, you you're going to get 15 yards and you drop it before you can even get going. a couple bad drops, but I like them a lot. I think he definitely needs to develop at the next level. That's kind of why he's down here at 13 for me, because he has a lot to work on. But I like Deion Burks. I think he's got some potential.
00:31:15
Speaker
But... The player he is right now, he's 13. Where do you have Dion Burks ranked? I have Dion Burks at 12. Cool. i think I think you're pretty spot on, but I'm surprised you're not higher on him. This is definitely a junior type of guy. And junior, maybe I'll sway a little bit. Let me just go into a little bit of the athletic intangibles. Yeah, just get me going. 180, ran vert, 10 foot 11 inch broad,
00:31:39
Speaker
forty two and a half inch fort ten foot eleven inch broad 26 reps on the damn bench press. Yeah, I was shocked at that one too. the That guy's muscle hamster.
00:31:50
Speaker
Jesus, that's strong that's a strong guy. R.I.P. Doug Martin. Love it. Here's some of the problems that I saw though. In his combine, in his tape. Thank you, PFF, for all of these statistics. 1.39 yards per route run.
00:32:08
Speaker
That's fourth per percentile. Yeah. Bad. 7.9 average depth of target. Six percentile. Very bad. 4.7 yards after catch per reception. twenty fourth percentile.
00:32:23
Speaker
not good So thank you, PFF, for all those statistics. But let me get back to the muscle hamster himself. Please sponsor us. In words, and you will have to edit this very sorry, strongest for us. Like this is an athletic freak. Like he's a nightmare.
00:32:42
Speaker
After i saw his combine and I watched his combine because I was like, there's no way he's benching that. And He did. it. It was crazy. Explosive intangibles. In college, he squatted 540, benched over 400, and power cleaned 340. That's so impressive for 180.
00:33:08
Speaker
Like, that's stupid numbers for this kid. Triple his body weight. It's stupid. it's It's like not I don't even understand how that's possible with physics. But anyway, to the receiver aspect, probably just a slot guy with this frame.
00:33:26
Speaker
Although he did play a lot of Z, which is what I saw. Very tight cuts in his routes. I thought he was strong for his size at the catch point. Keep in mind, five ten um Good footwork on the sideline, especially on the sideline. I loved his toe drags. I loved everything about him being on the sideline and him knowing where his feet were at. a Great vision when the ball's in his hands. We saw that a lot on jet sweeps and motions and screens. But comes back to the football and squares up the QB.
00:33:56
Speaker
which is one problem I have with a lot of wide receivers, not just in this draft, but with a lot of other wide receivers in this range in other classes is they don't square up their QB. They don't come back to the ball.
00:34:08
Speaker
They don't square them up and give him a good target to throw to. He does that. And I love that. I don't think he creates a lot of separation, which is what you've said. Hmm. For me, a non-threat if he's pressed in man coverage. He just can't get past it, which is weird for how strong he is for his size. Not much of a route tree. Like you said, it's a go ball, it's a screen, it's a jet sweep. There's not much to his game there.
00:34:34
Speaker
Good during a scramble drill. I thought he was really well at adjusting his route and moving towards where the quarterback could try and find him on broken plays. I think he's a really good gadget guy, and this is high praise for me because I'm not a gadget guy type of guy. i don't look for this type of person. I was very impressed, but almost more impressed with John Mateer than I was him.
00:34:57
Speaker
With that being said, a fascinating athlete that I have no problem taking dart throws on late in the second round, early third round. He reminded me of another comp, Tez Johnson and Malik Washington.
00:35:12
Speaker
Ooh. I think it's very crafty, very similar, especially to Malik Washington. I think they played very similarly in college. I like i agree. Yeah, I was going to say Malik Washington I think is spot on.
00:35:24
Speaker
I like that one a lot. Moving on here to our next guy. We're getting into our top 12s here, buddy. Top 12s. These are wide receiver ones in this class. So you say.
00:35:35
Speaker
Well, so I say. And you're going to love this one. He's name I added to our list late because I like him. Wide receiver 12, Ted Hurst. Wide receiver out of Georgia State.
00:35:47
Speaker
Where do you got him? I have him at wide receiver 15. too low. Ted Hurst, monster player. i I like this guy a lot. A combine riser for me, definitely a guy wasn't too familiar with until the combine. um And then you know Ninja, he'll talk to you about the numbers, but he played at a actually a Division two football team for his freshman and sophomore seasons. And then he transferred to Georgia State for his junior and senior years. So he's only played two years at you know Division I football.
00:36:20
Speaker
But he's a long strider, super bursty for a guy his size, just explosive. Breaks, tackles as a ball carrier pretty well for a guy who's massive. um And he's got next level speed and it shows up on tape. Obviously, this guy is playing against, you know, like who is Georgia State playing against most of the year? like Arkansas State, Murray State. Like he's not playing top-end competition. But if you're watching a guy not playing top-end competition, you go, I want that guy to dominate, and I want him to look like he's the best player on the field. And Ted Hurst did that for me. I was very impressed by him.
00:36:55
Speaker
Very straightforward route tree, though. like He's just running goes. He's running comebacks. He's running slants. Nothing too crazy. That's what probably his biggest negative is he's very raw as a wide receiver. Not much of a route tree, not much of a burst package, not much of a – he doesn't really counter press very well because he just kind of gets swallowed up and gives up.
00:37:15
Speaker
But I think he's got pretty decent hands. I didn't really see many drops on tape. I think he did well with contested catches. I do think he can play a little bit stronger for a guy who's that big. but I am definitely willing to take a late round shot on a guy like Ted Hurst because if you're as big as you are, as fast as you are, if you get if this guy goes third round in the NFL draft, I'm going to be taking him everywhere. i just i think he's got a lot of upside, and I know you're going to hate this.
00:37:43
Speaker
He reminds me a lot of Nico Collins playing at Michigan. He does. That's the worst comp I ever heard in my life. He reminds me a lot of Nico Collins at Michigan. Not even close.
00:37:54
Speaker
Just a raw, talented athlete. Whoa. Nico was much more than that. I just saw it before anyone else did. We'll get into Ted Hurst, 206, 4'4", 2", 36.5-inch vert, 11.3-inch broad. I think he did okay against press coverage.
00:38:15
Speaker
Big strider, like you said. I think a great separation on go balls with ease. Seems to get an extra gear when he knows he's on a go ball, too. As soon as that ball's thrown up, it feels like he hits six. He's not just in fifth, ladies and gentlemen. He turns that puppy to six and really gets on his horse to get after these balls.
00:38:35
Speaker
Good in and out of breaks. um Elusive after the catch for his size. I'm not saying he's great at it, but for can get behind that. Here's the problem.
00:38:46
Speaker
I didn't think he was going a contest to contest the catches for his size. I thought he was actually very poor, especially for the competition of play he was dealing with. I think he only has an okay release package.
00:38:58
Speaker
His footwork off the line is not good. He's just a true deep threat there. As you said, there's no route tree here. It's no balls. It's some comebacks and some digs.
00:39:09
Speaker
That's it. But mainly just go balls. And we need more than that to shine at the next level. And if you're 6'4", I need you to come down fifty fifty balls, have some jump ball ability, be able to snag you know the tough one. He doesn't do that.
00:39:26
Speaker
That's why he's so low here. But the main thing is there's no route running whatsoever. There's no polish in his game in the route running aspect, which I love the athlete. And we talked about it beforehand. I love this type of player. 6'4", 206, that's right in my wheelhouse.
00:39:43
Speaker
yeah Except he has no route running whatsoever. Zero. And I think in two years, three years, you know he gets coached up, polished. Maybe he will turn into Nico Collins. Who knows?
00:39:54
Speaker
But that's a gross comp now. Even when Nico Collins was at Michigan, Nico was a better route runner, and I don't think it was close. I agree. This guy's very raw, and I'm going to sound a lot negative to him. He's very raw, but I do love the intangibles of this kid.
00:40:14
Speaker
I'm willing to take a shot on some of those unteachables. Mid-third, late-third, I'd be happy to snag a Ted Hurst. For sure. I'm just a little bit higher on him than i think you are, but I like him a lot. Moving on here to my 11th-ranked wide receiver in this year's 2026 wide receiver class, I have Zachariah Branch, wide receiver out of Georgia. Where you got him?
00:40:39
Speaker
I'm at wide receiver fourteen Okay, so you're a little lower on than I am. um He is a slot king, as we all are. i'm One of my slot guys. I love this kid coming out of high school. Kind of side note, little, you know, ushy-mushy. He was my first ever freshman selection in my first ever C2C Dynasty League I was ever in.
00:41:00
Speaker
He was the first guy ever drafted, first round. I think I took him like sixth overall. um I really like Zachariah Brands coming out of high school. But... Never really excelled, never really turned into that monster guy we thought he could be. um Definitely short, but he's incredibly fast. Electric with the ball in his hands. When I was watching tape, I kind of want to see him, you know, not just play under size, but like play within himself, like play his game. Be a slot guy, be fast, create space like at the line of scrimmage. And I did see that on tape. He's fast as all get out. Shout out Ninja.
00:41:34
Speaker
but I do think he is just a slot exclusive player. he He's a slot gadget type, kind of like Deion Burks was. Definitely on their size, mainly utilized in like the screen game at Georgia. um But I did kind of see more versatility out of him watching him back at USC. They kind of used them in different packages. But at Georgia, mainly screen passes and drags and slants. um He's a run-out for the catch merchant. I think he's great he has great vision, very good burst with the ball.
00:42:00
Speaker
He's the fastest guy on the field. He has good hands, only a couple drops on tape in 2025.
00:42:07
Speaker
But I think for me, the touchdowns took a massive increase in 2025, and that's really not his game. So I'm kind of shocked he scored. I think he had like seven or eight touchdowns that season. But for me, good good route runner, utilizes his speed well, and i I think he's probably going to be a day two pick in the NFL draft. And for me, probably like a second round fantasy football but pick. i'm I'm pretty happy with him, but – He's never going to be the guys down here on this part of the list. Don't have the upside as a lot of those guys that we're going to talk about later because he's, you know, he's like five, eight, five, nine.
00:42:44
Speaker
He is fast as could be. And I think he's going to be another note. He's going to be an incredible kick returner, incredible punt returner. think you can talk about his combine numbers. so Actually, you can go. What are your thoughts on Zachariah branch?
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah, I'm definitely lower than this guy. And we'll get into one of my first ah draft prospect picks is coming later in this draft. So glad he's much higher than yours. Ha ha.
00:43:07
Speaker
But Zachariah Branch, 5'9", 177, ran a 4'3", 5'40", 38-inch vert, 10.5 broad, 20 reps on the branch, which is no joke for a guy his size. Second team, all SEC in 2025. My first note is speed, speed, speed. This guy can run, and he makes everyone look slow.
00:43:30
Speaker
Home run threat every time he gets the ball. a Gadget guy. For sure. And for me, only a gadget guy. He doesn't lose speed in and out of breaks.
00:43:42
Speaker
Finds spots in zone coverage to sit down. i think, obviously, he's 5'9". He's good after the catch. He's great after the catch. I didn't think he showed much as a route runner. He's not very polished there.
00:43:56
Speaker
but Most of what I saw in his 2025 tape happened behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah. which I don't like seeing. He rounds off his routes too much, especially for even his out routes, his dig routes. He rounds them too much. There's no crispness in those cuts.
00:44:16
Speaker
And as you said, excellent return specialist. I think he has that in his game. I think he plays strong for a size, but there's not much polish to this guy. It's just gadget guy. And, but he has so much speed and I don't want to underestimate that.
00:44:33
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, 4-3-40. it And it definitely shows on tape, too. The guy's quick as oh all could be. I think you you are probably right. I think he is closer to being a gadget-style player than he is like a slot-style player, which is definitely sad.
00:44:49
Speaker
Next on our list, we're going to breaking into the top 10 here. This is kind of where the tier breaks for me, where I go, like, these are players. almost great wide receivers that I'm very excited for in this class. And if I do remember correctly, I think we have the same number 10 at 10. I have Omar Cooper, Jr. Indiana wide receiver.
00:45:09
Speaker
You'd be right. That is our same pick at 10, Omar Cooper Jr. And I'll just keep going here because I just want to talk a little more. I don't want to speak on this guy. Six foot, 200 pounds, ran a 4'4", 240, 37-inch vertical.
00:45:26
Speaker
Pretty athletic guy, especially for his size. I think he played all over the field. Has great body control, good after the catch. Bullies through arm tackles. he just He just won't get brought down by that, especially by linebacker safeties. Creates a bunch of separation, but not necessarily on his route running.
00:45:45
Speaker
Just like, hey, I'm faster than you is what it was to me. It's not that he has any technique in his route running. Good against man and zone. I think he creates the same amount of separation either way.
00:46:00
Speaker
Didn't face a lot of press coverage, so i I don't want to give you a lot of terms on that, but that's one thing I do look for in wide receivers is your press coverage and how well are you able to break off of that. I think he would be effective. We just didn't see it. Very elusive in the open field. Super elusive. Not a great route tree.
00:46:18
Speaker
It's kind of similar to the guy we just talked about. Most of the stuff was behind the line of scrimmage. It was just trying to get this guy open, swing passes, screens, little slants. Like there wasn't anything really that this guy had to do special. It was just, hey, I'm a better athlete than you.
00:46:38
Speaker
I'm a work with it. But my comp for him, Jerry Judy. Hmm. I don't hate that at all. To be honest, i got I got no qualms. Your breakdown is pretty much exactly what I got.
00:46:50
Speaker
The only note I said is that he I think he had the catch of the year against Penn State when Penn State was you know literally blades of grass away from upsending number one ranked Indiana. But yeah, he's a reliable slot wide receiver.
00:47:04
Speaker
i think he can also win downfield, but that's really not his game. Sneaky athlete. I'm kind of shocked he ran a 4-4-40, but I do think he's quicker than he than he looks. Smooth, good hands. For me, he's like a high floor, low ceiling kind of player. Like I would be shocked if he's bad in the NFL.
00:47:21
Speaker
Like, he he's going to find a job. He's going to find a role, and he's going to do that role very well. I just don't think he's going to excel at next level. I just think he's a solid wide receiver, but he doesn't have, like kind talked about earlier, he doesn't have the upside to some of the guys we're go talk about a little bit later. And basically just a screen RPO heavy offense that they ran there in Indiana. And I think they did it so well because they did have a guy like Omar Cooper.
00:47:46
Speaker
Yeah. Definitely a good player, but we kind of have him at 10. And to be honest, I think we're work both kind of lower on a consensus on Omar Cooper than the rest of the NFL or like scouting wise are. because I see a lot of lot of drafts with him going in the first round, if not early second round. like They consider him closer to being a top five wide receiver in his class than the top 10.
00:48:09
Speaker
Definitely. I've been seeing that a lot, and I definitely don't agree, especially after film work. he's not even I think he's a round two to three grade type of guy, but I think he will get selected in the second round somewhere.
00:48:22
Speaker
At least, yeah, if not round one. Next for me at my wide receiver nine, I have Chris Brazel, the second wide receiver out of Tennessee. Where do you got Chris Brazel?
00:48:33
Speaker
I have Chris Brazel at seven. Okay, so we yeah we're close, but right right there. Tall burner out Tennessee. This guy is lanky as I'll get out. um And before I watched tape, I was just praying that he just wasn't another Jalen Hyatt. i' just I can't do another one of those guys. I fell in love with you the first time. It can't happen again.
00:48:54
Speaker
I'm looking for a little bit of a route tree, even though I know at Tennessee they basically just run goes and comebacks. And i was a little bit concerned about his hands because his hand size at the combine came in pretty small. um So I'm kind of looking for him just technique-wise. But Chris Brown, he's a burner. He's an absolute stud. Torched Georgia with the deep ball watching that game. That but that was a really fun game to watch. Um, long strider, legit deep ball speed, long arms, uh, takes a lot of plays off is kind of like the biggest negative I have on him. Like if there, if it's a run play, he's not blocking. Like he is, he is jogging. He's like taking his corner to the end. Like he's not doing anything, which I kind of respect. Cause if you're running as many goes as Chris Brasel is like, you're probably gassed. Like you're taking this run blank run, run blocking a playoff. Like I get it. um But I did see the same old, like, simple route tree that Tennessee runs. They just run goes. They run curls. They run comebacks.
00:49:49
Speaker
But I think kra Chris Brazel did that very, very well. Large catch radius, very good hands. I'm not really concerned about his hands watching tape. I think he definitely has some work to do. I think he needs to increase his route tree. But with his speed and quickness and his long strides, I think he is going to be easily coachable into some footwork and some more like extra routes that he can run at the next level. So I'm i'm excited about about a guy like Chris Brazel, and that's why I got him here at nine. So where do you got ah what are your thoughts on Chris Brazel out of Tennessee?
00:50:23
Speaker
I just want you to keep talking good about one of the guys I love. Yeah. Chris Brazel was a guy. No, sadly. No, almost. Okay.
00:50:34
Speaker
I, he was part of my first draft process in C2C. He's so close to making it my guy. You know what? Can I have multiple at wide receivers this draft? I have two.
00:50:45
Speaker
So yes, you can hang throw it, throw Chris Brazel. Oh, you mean one of these? Yeah. A little bit of that. Chris Brazla out of Tennessee, 6'4", 198. Are we talking the ninja type?
00:50:58
Speaker
6'4", 200 pounds? A little skinny for you. It's little skinny for you, if I'm being honest. A little skinny, but guess what? I've been on this guy for three years. Give him to me. the First team All-SEC this year and third team All-American in 2025. Big and fast.
00:51:14
Speaker
big and fast What else do you want for the ninja type of guy? Yeah, it was absolutely humongous and fast as all. Get out a wonderful deep threat with long strides. He uses that to eat up in off coverage. Like this guy eats up space into routes.
00:51:33
Speaker
Very good on go balls. Very good on posts. And, like, uses that long stride to create separation. Like, I don't know if you saw that. Where, we're like, everyone knows he's fast. He's like, oh, I'm gonna take eight steps off.
00:51:47
Speaker
And he still burns them on a post. Like, it's crazy athleticism. A huge frame. He has a monster catch radius. One of the better jump ball guys in this draft. I'm not saying he's best. But one of the better guys. You expect that at a six four And with his frame, he uses that well to box out corners and separate at the catch point, which is something not a lot of these guys have done well, which is just say, hey, I'm bigger than you. Step aside, buddy, and box those guys out.
00:52:18
Speaker
good body control in the air, great footwork on the sideline. He adjusted well to back shoulder throws and boundary throws. For his size, changed well, changed direction well, i was a little bit shifty. i think he's better as like a one-cut type of guy yeah in his routes. But like you said, though, only a decent route tree didn't do much ah to kind of excite you in that point.
00:52:45
Speaker
And like you said, his best game was against Georgia. I loved his Georgia tape. And like you said, a bit of inconsistent play took some plays off, but you know, what you're running 30 goes a game.
00:52:56
Speaker
i understand you jogging one. I get it. um Struggle with some drops, which is what you said as well. And I think he's only okay after the catch. He didn't show me watch as like a runner there.
00:53:09
Speaker
And I think you said that as well. But the reason I'm kind of a little bit surprised you didn't have him higher, my comp for him is A.D. Mitchell. Oh, okay. I don't hate that.
00:53:20
Speaker
and They're very similar play styles. Very similar play styles. They do the same type of thing. Yeah, they go that way very fast. Yes, they do. Yeah. I think Adonai Mitchell coming out of Tennessee had a little bit more versatility to his game, but that's just me being an A.D. Mitchell guy. um I'm praying the Jets don't draft the wide receiver, but i know they're going to.
00:53:39
Speaker
Moving on here, my eighth wide receiver, who i think you i mean were I think we're both in love with, but I know you are a little bit more than I am. My eighth wide receiver from in this class I have as Elijah Surratt, wide receiver at Indiana.
00:53:55
Speaker
i I thought going into this I was going to be a big Elijah Surratt guy. I was wrong. But with that being said, I really like this guy. Before watching the tape, he's a typical ex-outside wide receiver. Not super athletic, but reliable.
00:54:10
Speaker
and He had incredible chemistry with Mendoza, which definitely shows up on tape, which was kind of hard to you know grasp a full breakdown of the guy, but you can't hate on a player for just being in tune with his quarterback because that's what you want out of your outside wide receivers.
00:54:27
Speaker
Excelled with comebacks and RPO slants. I was kind of the game there at Indiana watching him I was kind of looking to see if he had some more of a route tree and if he had any extra speed or a second gear in there that I just kind of really didn't see as I'm watching Indiana throughout the year But after watching the tape, he's a back shoulder merchant. Like that's what him and Mendoza did. Made a lot of separation at the catch point, which I'm totally cool with as long as you can do it consistently.
00:54:52
Speaker
Didn't really win off the line of scrimmage or throughout the route, but right at the catch point was able to separate himself and create a little bit of space to make the catch. Very good body control, very good hands.
00:55:04
Speaker
I don't think he was so as successful as a contested catch guy as I would want him to be. That was kind of my one knack on him. If he could play a little bit stronger, I think he could be very dominant. But he's not very he's not like a dominant X, Y receiver. He's more of like a very good X, Y receiver.
00:55:21
Speaker
My only issue with him is I am worried about him separating at the next level because I don't think he really wins throughout his route because he doesn't have any quickness or burst to him. But...
00:55:32
Speaker
I think if he can get a QB like Mendoza and I kind of compared them to, to the old school green Bay, Aaron Rogers, Devante Adam days, where they kind of both knew where each other were on the field and were able to throw those back shoulders. You know, Rogers was able to throw Devante open. Same thing with Mendoza throwing open Surratt. Um, I think if he can get in tune with a quarterback like that, I really like him at the next level. Um,
00:56:00
Speaker
That was kind of my only knock is that I just, I'm worried about him separating at the next level. ah Ninja. What are your thoughts on Shara? Put up the graphic real quick.
00:56:11
Speaker
You mean this? my guy a whole as rot i arguing before i even started i was trying to fit this guy in as high as i could get him i just i couldn't move any farther but don't mistake it i will draft this guy i don't know as high as like the 110 the one nine don't really care i'm super productive in college And on me, and Tate looks so much bigger than what he actually is at 210. Very physical, great hands.
00:56:45
Speaker
I thought he was good in contested catches. I think he's good at route running for his sides. Good tempo in his cuts, especially in the intermediate part of his routes. Not afraid to attack the middle of the field, which a lot of people in this draft didn't do well.
00:57:00
Speaker
Was attack the middle of the field. a Good release package, especially for that size. ah Sells his vertical routes well. And for a guy who doesn't run a lot of vertical routes, sold those vertical routes well.
00:57:13
Speaker
Like he was like, ah buy one, get one. Nope, just buy in today. All the time and I love to see it. hi Go with his hands at the line of scrimmage, especially in press. This guy was one of the best in the draft at using his hands at the line of scrimmage to create separation. Play strong.
00:57:32
Speaker
Good route treat. He's not your deep ball burner. He's not beating you with deep posts and all that. This is an intermediate monster. This is a short guy, king. a Good after the catch. Adjusts so well to any back shoulder ball, like you said. this is ah As I said, ah well, you said, he's a back shoulder king. Yeah. You said that. i'm I'm going to keep saying that. Let me emphasize that again by saying it one more time.
00:57:59
Speaker
Back shoulder king. um His tape is filled with all of that, and I love it. Adjusts so well ah to the ball in the air. And for me, he plays so smart too.
00:58:10
Speaker
Like his routes are just smart. And I'm not going to say he's going to be this, but he wins the same way in his routes that Keenan Allen does. i was going to say that. Yeah.
00:58:22
Speaker
It's so similar and I can't shake it out of my head. I'm not saying he's going to be Keenan Allen, but he wins the exact same way. And I love everything about it.
00:58:32
Speaker
Yeah. It's the smart route running and it's knowing where to be at the right time. That's what it is. yeah um And he does that very well. So I definitely do like Elijah Surratt. But, man, it's going to get fun.
00:58:45
Speaker
My next player is a my guy, ladies and gentlemen. And I got him a hell of a lot higher than this guy does. Watch the receiver out of Clemson.
00:58:59
Speaker
Antonio Williams.
00:59:04
Speaker
Man, I love this guy. So you get get the music and I don't with my guys? That's what happens when you're behind the ones and twos, buddy. Sorry about it. Quick little mute. I need a moment for myself. Antonio Williams, wide receiver out Clemson, came in at 5'11 and a half.
00:59:21
Speaker
Aren't we all? 185 pounds. i Absolutely love this kid. i His 2024 tape was probably close to being a top five wide receiver in his class, but with his 2025 tape and the injuries he kind of sustained throughout his college career, I kind of had to knock him down, but he's another one of my slot kings, baby. If you've been listening to this podcast and for Ever since I've been putting my voice on it, you know I love my slot guys. Four-year starter at Clemson, played as a freshman out of high school at Clemson, which is very good. Always had high expectations for this guy, but with injuries, kind of never played up to it. And then the down year last year at Clemson, you know, not any not everyone played too great at Clemson last season.
01:00:06
Speaker
But he's a slot demon. He played a lot more outside wide receiver in 2024, but in 2025 was mainly like a so slot only type player. I think he's a little bit more versatile, but if I'm considering just a slot guy, i think he's very good at it. He's great after the catch. He has incredible built agility, very good run vision.
01:00:28
Speaker
um I think he can be a running back if he had to be. The guy knows where the opening is and he gets there. He's shifty. He's quick. He's got really good change of direction. He's definitely quicker than fast. He's one of those kind of guys where he gets in and out of his breaks quickly, but he doesn't really have the long speed to kind of run away from a corner or a safety. But he's very shifty in space.
01:00:49
Speaker
Safe, reliable hands, understands zone coverage very well. Probably the best part of his game is knowing where to be, sitting when he needs to be, and getting that six yards if he needs to.
01:01:01
Speaker
He's just an all-around football player. That was my big note. I put it in bold letters, football player. I feel like this guy won the kick, run, pass, or whatever that is in high school where you just try to do everything a football player does, and he excels at it. i don't know if you watched the UNC game, Ninja, but the first play the game, he throws a 45-yard deep ball to a wide receiver on some you know makeshift wildcat play, and it is a dot throws it on the run from the sideline 40 yards down the field as a wide receiver. Gorgeous. But this guy can do anything. um
01:01:36
Speaker
i think he's I think he's probably a a slot guy at the next level, but I think he's more versatile. I'm very excited to see where he goes. If this guy gets day two draft capital, even third round, I'll take third round, but if he gets day two draft capital, I'm going to be all over this kid. I love him.
01:01:54
Speaker
Antonio Williams, wide receiver out Clemson. And he is a my Am I good to go now? Yep, go ahead. Okay, he's wide receiver 16 for me.
01:02:10
Speaker
Gross. 5'11", 187, ran broad. Not a good route runner. thirty nine a half inch for ten and a half inch broad not a good route runner No, I didn't see anything to indicate that he was good. at Any sort of that type of stuff.
01:02:29
Speaker
But like you said, finds a soft spot in zones. He does that very well. i think he tempos okay um Able to slow down, especially in zone coverage. Not good against man, but in zone, he's able to temple down, throttle down, and find that soft spot.
01:02:45
Speaker
Good vision when he hit the balls in his hand. Good area. Short area quickness. I think he's okay after the catch. Nothing special in 50-50 balls.
01:02:56
Speaker
Very bad release package. doesn't separate man coverage. He just doesn't do it for me. And this was a late add on. Keep in mind guys. I had to stay up late to scout this guy. Cause Gary said, Hey, this is a, cause you're watching him like midnight. You got like four hours of sleep. You're like, hidden just guy who I watched him at 10 30 and I watched another guy higher on this draft that you said after this, he was your entire, I watched Ted Hearst after Antonio Williams.
01:03:28
Speaker
So, you know, this guy just isn't special. And in my notes, I said, this is definitely a junior guy. Just not for me. He's special to me. um He's okay, but he just doesn't do anything well. He's like, just okay.
01:03:43
Speaker
He has no like glaring like, oh, wow, that's cool. It's all like, okay, you're a wide receiver. Like, you know what I mean? You don't, but the people will.
01:03:55
Speaker
Hopefully you take that into consideration, folks, because I spent an hour scouting. I scouted each of these guys for about an hour. So an hour of watching this guy not separate in man coverage is something that needs to be applauded in more circles than it is.
01:04:11
Speaker
I'm sorry, but I'm not. This guy kind of stinks. How you have him at wide receiver eight is crazy to me. Wide receiver seven. Thank you very much. Jesus. Change that, guys. Don't follow this guy.
01:04:23
Speaker
Terrible. Anyway. We're going to have an Antonio Williams cigar bet. We'll have to figure out what it is eventually. I'm game. I absolutely love this kid.
01:04:36
Speaker
He's definitely my type wide receiver, and I realize that. like I know i am just deep diving myself into my type of wide receiver, but he fits my mold perfectly. i think I think his run after the catch ability is what he excels at. I would say if he does excel one thing, his yard is is his rack, if you will, is awesome. He's got a great rack.
01:04:58
Speaker
Next on my list here. My sixth wide receiver in the 2026 class. I have Casey Concepcion, wide receiver out of Texas A&M.
01:05:11
Speaker
I had him higher on this list until I kind of broke down. I watched him early on in my scouting process, and he kind of slightly moved down the board a little bit. um After I i watched some guys I liked a little bit more, but going into his tape, he was another wide receiver i was not very familiar with. Didn't really watch much Texas A&M this year, but from what I heard about him, he was like a fast, versatile, um late round one potential wide receiver. um I knew he had trouble with his hands in college, but he's more of a high potential athlete than he is like a wide receiver. And that's kind of what I saw on tape. He's a real legit burner. um Got great comeback routes for a guy hit like who if you have top end speed like that and deep ball speed, you have to be good at comeback routes because that's what creates that separation. And that's probably his best route ah in his tree is those comebacks. And he think he's as great at them.
01:06:07
Speaker
Marcel Reed stinks. That was another note I had watching Texas A&M. That guy is dog. Like he sucks. yeah But going back to Concepcion, great burst and acceleration. like That's his game is being faster and quicker than the next guy. um i think he beats press coverage very well for a guy his size he He definitely utilizes his speed and quickness to kind of get around guys and doesn't really take on the press too well.
01:06:34
Speaker
But I think he creates a lot of space there for a guy his frame. and I don't know if you saw this on tape too, but he is always open. He is wide that open yeah all the time on tape and he never gets the ball.
01:06:47
Speaker
He separates at every part of the route at the line of scrimmage at whatever route he's doing. He can even beat a guy deep, but very versatile. I think this guy has more to show at the NFL level than he did in college because he is always open on tape. it Like, he he's IHOP. he is He's Waffle House. This guy is always open. um I think he can play slot or outside. i think he can definitely play in the outside at the next level.
01:07:13
Speaker
But one thing, for one other note, I'm shocked he didn't run at the combine. I don't know if he has some kind of lingering injury or maybe he just couldn't figure out how to get out of the breaks well. But if I was this fast, I would run at the combine and just show off because that would secure it. He would be a for sure first round wide receiver if he ran like the four threes, which I would expect him to do.
01:07:31
Speaker
But what are your thoughts on Casey Concepcion?
01:07:37
Speaker
Junior, i know I only set it for two. I need it one more time. Oh, buddy. Are we doing this whole draft class? Are my guys? I need it because you talked about it earlier with the first guy you ever drafted in your C2C. The first guy I ever drafted in my first C2C was Casey Concepcion. So I've been a fan of this guy for years. Six foot 196, freshman All-American, ACC Rookie of the Year, first team All-American 2025, and first team All-SEC in 2025.
01:08:14
Speaker
I've been a fan of this guy for three years. And I've just been waiting. And this isn't my type. And I've been saying it all drafted. He's not really my type. I've had him for forever. He's not really my type. Guess what? The more I watched his film, the more I fell in love with the way this guy works.
01:08:34
Speaker
Great burst of the line of scrimmage. He beats press with ease. He's so much faster where he doesn't even have to use his hands. It's just his footwork is so much better. his His pace is so much better.
KC Concepcion: Top Draft Pick
01:08:50
Speaker
Creates route leverage so great. And like that's something I say with the top guys where it's not just how you beat them off the line of scrimmage. It's you're outpaced, you're out leverage. How are you angling these guys? We're like, hey, I want to run it in. Let me bait him inside and then go out.
01:09:07
Speaker
Or let me bait him outside and then go in. He's one of the best in this draft at doing that. Great vision in the open field. Home run guy. And I'm not one for these like home guys.
01:09:21
Speaker
Dude, this guy has a Denny's Grand Slam every morning, and I know it. This is your type of guy through and through, but guess what? I had him first, so going to claim him.
01:09:33
Speaker
This guy's special. Great hands at the catch point for a smaller guy, dude. This guy at Contested Catches was really good. Like, I didn't see any flaws in his game in that part. And then untouchable in man-to-man coverage.
01:09:47
Speaker
1v1, no one in the nation could cover this guy. No one. In straight-up main coverage, this guy was untouchable. And not to mention, and you said it in your breakdown, a return specialist. This guy has everything they want. I've been on this guy since 2022.
01:10:05
Speaker
I love everything about KC Concepcion, and I was talking to you earlier in this podcast before we even booted
Chris Bell: Rising Star
01:10:11
Speaker
up. I'm trying to move this guy higher. I want him higher.
01:10:16
Speaker
God forsake, I might move him higher. knocked over my mic, sorry. I might move him higher. i saw it. Yeah, I got no qualms there about KC Concepcion. Definitely love the kid. Excited to see where he goes, because if he gets a good landing spot, man, I'd just...
01:10:34
Speaker
Sky's the limit with that kid. Definitely a first round fantasy pick. But moving on here to my next guy. My next guy is another my guy in this year's draft class.
01:10:45
Speaker
um I love Chris Bell. Why receive right of Louisville? i adore this guy. um i I wasn't expecting to like him as much as I do after watching tape. He was the guy for me after watching him that rose up my board um the highest.
01:11:07
Speaker
um Showed consistent improvement over his four years. Big bodied outside wide receiver. i think he may be more of an athlete than a wide receiver at this point, but man, is he one hell of an athlete. um Going into his tape, i was expect I was trying to see a more polished route runner. um In good hands to pair with his great athleticism that I knew about. um And then obviously he had the ACL injury at kind of towards the end of the 2025 season, which is kind of the reason no one is really probably talking about it right now is like a first round caliber wide receiver or any of these high end wide receivers is because of ACL injury. But looking past that.
01:11:44
Speaker
the in bold letters i just have explosive that's that is this guy's game um i called him decaf metcalf i think that's awesome by the way it's a good nickname i think that's awesome i think it's a i think it describes him perfectly um he the dude loves a good crosser like that's just that is his game um He's bigger, faster, stronger than most of the guys on the field. um I question how healthy he was going through some of these tapes. Watching the Clemson game, I'm kind of watching that, i'm like, this isn't the same player I just watched like two two games ago. I kind of question his health there, but I think he's definitely a more versatile wide receiver than I expected. I think he plays best as a big slot, but he's definitely a good outside wide receiver as well. Great hands, incredibly competitive, doesn't go down easy, ah can separate well for a big guy. i think he utilizes his speed very well, too, for a guy who's 220. Massive dude. um
01:12:46
Speaker
And I think he definitely separates at the catch point. Well owns man coverage. The guy cannot be covered. man um He uses his leverage. Well, never really gives back a step. If he, if he has you cornered and he has you on his like right hip, you're done. Like you're gone. He's going to get open.
01:13:05
Speaker
um The acceleration after the catch too, I think is incredible. A lot of those crossers that get him the ball in space. And then it's 20 yards at least if not to the house. Yeah.
01:13:16
Speaker
And I have a note here, Kidd might be a my guy, and guess what he is. I think he recognizes his own well and sits. I think he can definitely improve that part of his game, but I think he does that well enough for a guy um with his play style.
01:13:30
Speaker
But I think he is, if he was healthy, if he didn't tear his ACL at the end year, I think he's an easy first-round pick in the NFL draft, and I'll definitely be looking to target him with that health bug that everyone's going to kind of – dropping him down boards on because I i love and adore Chris Bell. i think he's I think he's going to be very good at the next level.
01:13:53
Speaker
Yeah, I don't have many qualms with that at all, but the question is how far does that health bug go? I think I would scoot out like if he's still on the board at 205 in this year's rookie draft.
01:14:08
Speaker
Yes, but much sooner. It's what am I trading for it? um Don't get me wrong. I love Chris Bell. Chris Bell 62227 didn't participate at the combine because you know injured ACL MCL whatever the fuck is going on there. Sorry, Zag.
01:14:25
Speaker
Um, Great size with good speed. Does not shy away from contact. Great at using his frame to box out corners. Sure hands. Able to contour his body well in back shoulder balls.
Chris Bell's Strengths & Weaknesses
01:14:42
Speaker
ah Good after the catch. Not great. Only only good. ah Limited route tree. Not a refined route runner. I didn't think he had much polish to that game.
01:14:55
Speaker
Lacks disguise in his routes. So what I'm looking for, especially in these top guys, especially where you hyped them up to be, I'm looking for some special things. I'm looking for certain cues to tell me, hey, this is it.
01:15:07
Speaker
He didn't have that. ah So for what I mean by lacks disguise in his routes, There's no head fakes. There's no shoulder turns. There's no shoulder dips. There's nothing like faking the defender out. And Jackson Smith and Jigba is like king of that with like the head fakes.
01:15:24
Speaker
And hopefully you guys have seen that. And if if not, I will point you on to a guy who emphasizes that greatly. Um, I, I forget his name, but I will throw him somewhere in our group chat.
01:15:37
Speaker
Uh, so he can get recognized. Uh, love that guy watching his work. Um, A lot of shallow crossers, like you said, splash with go balls. That was his route tree. There really wasn't much else there.
01:15:50
Speaker
ah Able to find the open spot and zone, especially on those crossers. That was really evident. Able to sit down and try and find those soft spots in that zone. In the crosser, like say in a cover four, he would sit down right in between that middle linebacker in that corner, and it was evident all the time.
01:16:10
Speaker
Good use of his hands to separate at the catch point. ah But he doesn't separate man coverage like. Oh, it's just OK. Hang on.
01:16:21
Speaker
You'll like where I'm going. He doesn't separate in man coverage. ah Late hands is good. By late hands, I mean he throws up his hands late. Like a ball's being thrown and he doesn't throw up his hands until the last minute. So the cornerback doesn't know that the ball's arriving to him.
01:16:40
Speaker
i don't think he wins against Preds as much as I want him to. But my comp for him, Junior. And I had tough negotiations with this.
01:16:52
Speaker
What I think he is right now is Xavier Leggett. But... What he plays as is AJ Brown. Oh, okay. Honestly, i i I see that very well.
01:17:05
Speaker
My D-Cath, Metcath, and AJ Brown, I think, are very they're very similar players. It's close, but I think he's more of somewhere between what I wanted Xavier Leggett to be AJ Brown. like He's going to be finished. so I love Chris Bell.
01:17:22
Speaker
Let's not fake the tape. I love Chris Bell. He's going to finish somewhere between this. And it all depends on landing spot and how he's used and all that. But he worked in his last year how A.J. Brown works in the NFL. It's, hey, I'm open on a slant.
01:17:39
Speaker
Bam. There it is. Yeah, I'm going to run a guy over and also through that other guy. Hey, I'm one-on-one on a go ball. Guess what? Bang. There it is. Might not look like I'm open, but I am.
01:17:52
Speaker
But then also with those shallow crossers, it reminded me a lot of what I saw from Xavier Leggett. Yeah. It was, I'm faster. I'm bigger. Guess what? You don't matter. Yeah, get out way.
01:18:05
Speaker
So I'm kind of torn because both those guys have like very different NFL careers, but it's like it's a mix of those two guys. ah but So I just don't know how this guy's going range out. ah But i I'm happy anywhere from the 2-1 to the 2-4 for this guy.
01:18:23
Speaker
Very happy. That's exactly where I'm targeting him to. If I can get him outside the first round, i am – Very happy with that in my fantasy drafts. um We talked about this already, but I am still shocked you're not as high as him as I i am because he is exactly. I want him tim to be. He's exactly my type. You're right.
01:18:41
Speaker
Yes. I think you are kind of learning from your ex Xavier Liggett as you should be as an analyst and as a you know a sports podcaster. You're learning from your mistakes as am I. um But i I was expecting you to be a lot higher than this guy, and I'm shocked that I have him ranked before you do. But I am glad I get to call him a my guy when it turns around and in my favor. um But I love me some Chris Bell. But, buddy, we're getting into our top four.
01:19:08
Speaker
And guess what? So the people know the top four, whether we're different here, all four names are the same.
Draft Depth & Landing Spot Importance
01:19:15
Speaker
All four names are the same names. Where did you have Chris Bell ranked? i don't know if we had that out in the pod. Let me look real quick. chris bre Chris Bell was ranked my number nine.
01:19:27
Speaker
by the that is But, low and you and and we'll get into this as, like, we go, like, especially at the end. It's mainly tiers this year. For sure. Like, it's not, it's not like, hey, I have a 1A and 1B. No, it's like a, I have a 1A through 1E and then a 2A through two c It's a wide range this year, which is it's so deep, and it's hard to rank these guys. But guess what? We're going to do it for content, baby. Very different plays now, and like landing spots are going to be huge for all them. The draft is going to tell us a lot about these guys, but we're just giving you some in-depth knowledge early.
01:20:08
Speaker
um But the draft is ultimately king. like Say KC can have shown as the first wide receiver off the board. Guess what? Ain't got no problem taking him as the first wide receiver.
01:20:20
Speaker
ah that But that's just the range I have for these wide receivers, especially in the top half. And then the second half, it's like if Chris Bells goes like 34th overall, i have no problem taking him 111 to So it's just a wide range for these guys. And we'll get into the fun part of this pod starting now because I know we're going to differ.
01:20:48
Speaker
Speaking of starting now.
Denzel Boston's Next-Level Potential
01:20:51
Speaker
One of your boys at four, my wide receiver four in this draft class, is Denzel Boston, wide receiver out of Washington. And to be honest, I think I'm going throw it to you here, buddy, first because I know he's your guy. So go ahead and break down Denzel Boston here for us.
01:21:08
Speaker
Yeah, Denzel Boston, 212, 35-inch vert.
01:21:13
Speaker
4.28 20-yard shuttle, third team all Big Ten this year. X wide receiver, good run blocker, tracks the ball well in the air, can line up all over the field.
01:21:25
Speaker
Great hands, phenomenal at contested catches. And for me, the big thing, plays faster than he looks. Like, I don't know if the tape you saw saw what I saw. He plays fast.
01:21:37
Speaker
ah Especially faster than 4-4-2. Has great fluidity in his routes. And extra twitch in his routes if you will. Especially those posts. Those go balls.
01:21:48
Speaker
It seems like he finds an extra gear. Which I absolutely love.
01:21:56
Speaker
He's a red zone king. This guy eats in the red zone, which is something I love, especially for a big body guy. Hey, what? You're six four Be good in the red zone?
01:22:07
Speaker
He is. Yeah, here's my number. um Elite play strength, especially in his hands. Like his hands are, so as soon as he touches the ball, no one else, it doesn't matter. You're not touching it.
01:22:22
Speaker
He's coming down with a touchdown, especially in the end zone. I love everything about that. He can win all over the field, contorts his body well, especially the back shoulder balls, has home run ability even though he's not known for that, gets vertical in a hurry, ah especially with the ball in his hands. As soon as he gets ball in his hands, he's looking to get that extra six, seven yards just by diving forward. That's how big this guy is.
01:22:49
Speaker
able to fake out corners on deep posts and go balls with tempo and head fakes, which is what I talked about earlier, is one thing I look for in all of my top wide receivers is you're doing those extra little things to gain you some more separation. He does that, eats up yards in off coverage, long strider,
01:23:09
Speaker
And if you're playing eight yards off, guess what? It takes 0.3 seconds for him to be right with you hip to hip. I love everything about that. Everything Denzel Boston does on film is what I preach for wide receivers to do when I'm watching them. It's like, oh, I want you to do this. He does it.
01:23:28
Speaker
Like everything good I can imagine a wide receiver to do, he does it. There is no flaws in his game. Wow. And I'm not saying he's going to play like this because, like I said, my my comparisons are projections. It's what I view them as when I'm seeing them. And when I watch this guy on film, Gary, I don't know how you felt with this guy, Gary.
01:23:54
Speaker
Gary. I said it the first time kind of bad, so i I'm just going with it. He felt like Puka Nakua. He's just so smart in the way he works. He's so good on deep balls. He's so good on intermediate balls. He's so smart.
01:24:11
Speaker
I just don't see how he can't be fantasy productive at the next level. And not even fantasy productive, just a really, really good NFL wide receiver by the way he works.
01:24:24
Speaker
I just can't see how he is not a hit at some level.
01:24:31
Speaker
Um, I have no, uh, no qualms to be honest. Um, obviously I have him been a little lower. i don't know if you said it or not, but where do you have him ranked?
01:24:42
Speaker
Denzel Boston is my wide receiver too. Yeah, I have him at wide receiver four, sir. You are a little bit higher on him than I am. But he is a legit red zone outside X big bodied wide receiver. And i have my notes here. This is kind of a dying breed, um at least for me and wide receivers. You i really see this kind of guy too often.
01:25:03
Speaker
Um, My only negative for him was i think he plays it really upright and he looks a little stiff a lot of times throughout his route. He is a short strider, and i'm not gonna I'm not saying that as a knock, but that's just kind of how he plays, very upright and like short strides.
01:25:19
Speaker
But he's a lot faster than I thought he would be for a guy his size. I wouldn't say he's quick, but he's definitely fast. um Pretty good run after the catch ability for a guy his size. He's willing to break tackles and run through people. And then everything you said, I completely agree with. But I i don't know if i don't know if I see Puka Nakua.
01:25:43
Speaker
it's um it's um so like It's not obviously Pukunoku is one of the best in league, right? That's not what I'm saying he's going to be. It's just his play style is very similar to Pukunoku.
01:25:57
Speaker
i can Just smart X where he's willing to do everything. He's so good with fakes and like offset stuff. like the route running, the tempo, the head fakes, the shoulder dips. He does all of that super well.
01:26:14
Speaker
Like Nakua does, it's why Nakua is so successful. I'm not saying he's going to be this, but that's what he plays as. yeah And you know what? I'm not done dying on my horse yet. This guy's incredible.
01:26:25
Speaker
Kidding. We can move on. But I love this kid immensely. i do I like him a lot as well. I got him at wide receiver four, and I think he's probably going to stay there whether no matter where he gets drafted. I do like this kid a lot. Like ah the biggest thing, he had 20 touchdowns in the last two years at Washington. That is, he is a legit touchdown.
01:26:47
Speaker
Like this guy can have 10 to 15 touchdowns in the NFL year in, year out, if he gets the kind of production that we want him to. But I like him a lot. but Absolute vice grips for hands. This kid does not drop the ball.
01:27:00
Speaker
Contested catches are, there are 70, 30 balls with this guy. Yeah. Wide receiver three for me is Jordan Tyson, wide receiver out of Arizona State.
Jordan Tyson: Talent vs. Injuries
01:27:12
Speaker
um And it kind of it's kind of sad. And I know if anybody's been listening to any breakdowns of this wide receiver class, obviously Jordan Tyson has a lot of injury history.
01:27:24
Speaker
um That's his main, the main caveat any analyst has for him is that he's injured a lot. And it's true. um He had a major knee injury at Colorado. I think it was his sophomore season when he was initially at Colorado.
01:27:38
Speaker
um ACL, PCL, MCL tear, full knee blowout, not a very good injury. Also dealt with a collarbone fracture, I believe his junior year.
01:27:49
Speaker
Kept him out a couple games. And then he's been nagging, has his nagging hamstring injury throughout pretty much the entire 2025 season. And it's even held him back. He was not able to participate at the combine. I don't know if he's going to do anything at his pro day, but as of now, he has not done anything. And he's still kind of lingering with that hamstring injury. So that is the biggest knock on Jordan Tyson.
01:28:13
Speaker
Yeah. But after that, He's special. I have no other negatives for this guy's game. I have zero. i He's a prototypical X wide receiver, but he's versatile. He can do anything. He can win in any phase of the route. Short, intermediate, deep balls.
01:28:32
Speaker
um I have him, my comp for him, I have him as like a Jordan London type of player. where I think he can just win anywhere, anytime if he needs to. Very good athlete, more versatile than he expected after watching tape. Really good hands, smooth route runner. That was my big thing for him. He was very smooth throughout his routes in and out of his breaks. Creates a lot of separation during the route. Not really a yak guy. That's not really his game, but um I think he still does it well enough for a guy his size.
01:29:04
Speaker
um I think he can win downfield. He excels in man coverage. He beats a man coverage like it's... if You can't cover him one-on-one. um I do think he can play a little weak sometimes. I wish he can play a little bit stronger, but then he's only 200 pounds. He's not like a Denzel Boston, but I do think he plays a little weak sometimes, but owns one-on-one man coverage, sets up routes very well, creates space throughout the entire route if he needs to.
01:29:33
Speaker
um I don't know necessarily if he is like a dominant wide receiver one for a team. I think he can be an incredible wide receiver two for an NFL team, but I don't know if he's like a dominant X prototypical player.
01:29:47
Speaker
number one wide receiver, but I think he he can excel as a wide receiver too, or even like a mid tier to high end why receiver one for a team. But I, I love Jordan Tyson. I really like his game.
01:30:00
Speaker
The only question with him is, can he stay healthy and is he healthy now? Yeah, that's really the only question. And the only reason, which I agree with you at he's at three for me He started my process at 1, and he has a very good argument to remain at 1.
01:30:21
Speaker
ah He's just not that right now. But I wouldn't be surprised. If he goes to the Rams at 13, guess what? I'm drafting him at the one three and I don't care. This guy is special.
01:30:34
Speaker
i After all the film I did and all the film work I do for these guys, I'm... I'm trying to not bring him down my board. And we talked about this early in the draft. I'm saying, Elijah Surratt needs to move up my board. Casey Concepcion needs to move my board. I can't do it because Jordan Tyson is so good.
01:30:54
Speaker
yeah I just can't do it. ah But for this guy, 203, 26 reps on the bench, third team in and and then first team and
01:31:12
Speaker
The only problem with this guy is his injury. And i'm I'm not a guy to draft guys on injury history. i don't really well you know I don't really like guys who have problems with injuries, especially knees, ACL, MCL, PCL, whatever it may be I'm not a fan of because I know those are hard to heal.
01:31:35
Speaker
Even in NFL when you have the best doctors, it doesn't matter. ah Once your knee kind of goes, it's one Even if it's a gimme, it's anything really goes there where you can't expect a full career from this kid. But this guy is.
01:31:53
Speaker
I would view him up there with Malik Nabors in where i scouted wide receivers. Like this guy is that special where he's on the same tier length of being drafted the 105 overall in the NFL draft. He just won't be because of his injury.
01:32:09
Speaker
But he has the talent to do everything that Malik Nabors has done. ah Very good against man coverage. And by very good, I mean almost unguardable.
01:32:22
Speaker
Like, this guy cannot be stopped just 1v1. ah He's super talented in that aspect. Beats press easily. Breaks down corners really well on his routes. Might break down really well ah once he gets into a position where...
01:32:40
Speaker
Even if he's offsetting his feet, he takes one step, gets straight up with the corner. He's able to depict what he's going to do and how well that route's run just on that two first milliseconds alone by seeing the corners alignment with his feet. He's super good with that. ah Great release package. Great spectacular catches. Great at everything. Really. i This guy's special.
01:33:08
Speaker
He really is. Like, in a loaded wide receiver class we saw two years ago, last year, whatever the Malik Nabors class was, I'm arguing for him over Malik Nabors.
01:33:21
Speaker
Like, that's how special this guy is. It's just, he has injury history. He has injury concerns. It's the one reason he's not my wide receiver one. And I would love him to be, as I said this entire night, especially before we started this podcast, is how high can I put this guy? Can I drop guys because of Jordan Tyson? And the answer is Jordan Tyson's at the bar.
01:33:47
Speaker
like If I'm drafting a wide receiver in the first round, Jordan Tyson is my bar of, like yeah, that's like a 65% hit rate. and that's And that's what I'm going for in fantasy. like You want a hit rate with these guys, and I think he's going to hit regardless of whatever happens. I love this guy. I hope he you know finds out whatever's going on with his injury and figures it out.
01:34:13
Speaker
But Jordan Tyson, I love, i love, i love, i love, i love. ah Please send me your early 26 first form. Please. Yeah, um no qualms.
01:34:26
Speaker
If the guy can stay healthy, he's... he's going to be incredible, but that's, that's the big question. um I'm kind of very interested to see where he goes in the NFL draft, because I know you watch mocks as well.
01:34:39
Speaker
He's been everywhere on these mock drafts. He's going anywhere from like nine to like 24. Like I'm, I'm very interested to see where Jordan Tyson lands in the NFL. And i don't I don't necessarily think that'll change my ranking on him, but it'll just, you know, it'll give me an idea of how bad the NFL thinks his injury history is depending on how high he goes.
01:35:01
Speaker
ah Like like we we've been talking as we've been doing these rankings. Like it's not like the top like four is like set. It's like it's a tier. Like the top four is a tier. It's not like set guys like it was a couple of years ago.
01:35:16
Speaker
Like if Jordan Tyson is the first wide receiver off the board at like say one seven. I'm not saying that's going to happen. But, you know, say he goes one seven. Yeah, he's my first wide receiver and I'm taking him at the one three.
Challenges in Wide Receiver Rankings
01:35:30
Speaker
And I'm not like... ah So it's like weird this draft where it's not necessarily like you have these top guys who you like you know are going to hit. It's like you have all these guys who are like mid-round guys, but they're so good. They're all so capable in their own ways.
01:35:47
Speaker
It's just how do you decipher which one's better than the other? And to be honest, I don't even know if NFL guys know. Like we're we're trying our best for you. This is a tough class to like...
01:35:59
Speaker
try and find your one because for me, it's all tears of how you grade guys. And like Gary has his guys. I am my guys, but Jordan Tyson still somehow is in our top three. And with his injury history, he should, he should not be but he's so talented that he is.
01:36:19
Speaker
Do you know what I mean? Exactly. Yep. I'm moving on here to my number two wide receiver.
Makai Lemon: Standout Receiver
01:36:27
Speaker
Man, i i've been I've been trying to find any way to to have this guy as my wide receiver one.
01:36:34
Speaker
And if any of you listen to the podcast already, you know who this guy is. I can't make him my wide receiver one because I can't let my bias see overtake what I truly think is right.
01:36:47
Speaker
And I'm trying to give you guys the best rankings that I can. But with that being said, my wide receiver two in this 2026 NFL a rookie draft class is Makai Lemon, wide receiver out of USC.
01:37:04
Speaker
Absolutely love and adore this kid. He's exactly my type. He is Amon Ross St. Brown. He is JSN. He is a next level competitor.
01:37:16
Speaker
um He's definitely a my guy. I'm not going to make him my guy because he's like wide receiver too, but he is definitely my type of player. I've had this guy throughout his entire college career, and then he's finally here in the NFL now. I couldn't be happier.
01:37:30
Speaker
um I don't think he's a supreme athlete. like That's one of the negatives on his game. But other than that, I absolutely love this kid. Definitely a slot type, but I think could play on the outside as well. Very versatile. Very high floor, very high ceiling kind of player. I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up being very good at the next level. um One other small negative is that he only has one true year of production at USC his last year, his junior season, but he won the Bolitnikov Award for the why receiver best wide receiver in the nation. So I think it was a pretty good damn year. Um, he's a yak demon. Like that is his game is yards after the catch. Um, definitely a screen and RPO heavy offense there at USC. And it just fit his play style perfectly. Um, mainly runs out of the slot, but I think he could be utilized a lot in motion and running on the outside. Um, tape wise. I, I just loved him. I thought he was incredible. Um, box scores obviously don't lie with this kid either.
01:38:32
Speaker
Plays well against zone, finds opening over the middle of the field, demands two to three defenders in zone coverage because everyone knows USC is trying to get him the ball. Definitely quicker than fast. I don't know if he has that long speed like most of these wide receivers in class do, but um definitely quick, shifty, creates a lot of separation throughout this route. And the biggest thing, I'm sure everyone saw these in the highlight reels of watching Mekhi Lemon,
01:38:58
Speaker
um his contested catches for a guy who's only 5 11 is incredible um his his he had uh i think top 25 in the nation in deep ball catches and contested catches for a guy who's 5 11 like 190. like this guy is he plays way bigger than what he is he's a big time uh if you need a third down conversion you go to mckay lemon If you need a 25-yard deep ball, you go to Makai Lemon. If it's fourth and three from the three-yard line and you need to score a touchdown, you go to Makai Lemon. He's that kind of player.
01:39:34
Speaker
High-level competitor, and if he wants it, he's going to get it. Absolutely love this kid. i um'm I'm actually mad at myself I don't have mad at the wide receiver one because I just i adore him.
01:39:46
Speaker
He's my guy. Go ahead. um the The fact you didn't give yourself the sword when you absolutely should have. Just just do it for yourself. I don't care how high is. Do it.
01:39:58
Speaker
He's your guy. i Do it. Put the crown on him. He's my slot king, baby. Love it. Love it. And so the listeners know, I was trying everything in my power to not like this guy.
01:40:11
Speaker
Here's the deal. Kyle Emman's a really good fucking football player. um Like... He's super talented. 5'11", 192", 2025, Belenikov award winner, first team All-American this year, first team All-Big Ten.
01:40:28
Speaker
Plays bigger than his size. Yeah. Almost untouchable in man coverage.
01:40:35
Speaker
Elite route tech. This guy has everything in his bag.
01:40:42
Speaker
Great release. Crisp cuts in his routes. Breaks down corners so well, especially on comeback routes. He squares them up, says, oh, see ya. Comeback routes, easy eight yards.
01:40:56
Speaker
Good in contested catches, especially for his size. And that's one note you said, I'll re-erberate. Special in contested catches.
01:41:08
Speaker
Sure in strong hands. He never drops a ball. I think he had a 2.2% drop rate. And that was over the last two years. I don't think he dropped the ball this year.
01:41:19
Speaker
That's how good he is. He's probably going to be a slot at the nfl label at the NFL level. I think he's capable of doing everything. Great burst in short-air quickness. More quick than fast, which is what you said.
01:41:34
Speaker
But the reason why... If Junior didn't love this guy so much, he'd be a my guy. I'm going give Junior some love here because this guy would be a my guy.
01:41:47
Speaker
He plays tough as nails. Yeah. He plays well above the rim for 5'11". He's so good on the sideline. And guess what? His TD celly is nothing. he He doesn't celebrate like it's anything.
01:42:03
Speaker
It's not a touchdown. It's just like, oh, let me get back to the fucking dugout. Let me get back to the business. Act like you've been there I have straight to the sideline. No BS. Straight dog.
01:42:18
Speaker
Dog. It doesn't matter. This kid doesn't fucking care about any of the theatrics. He's just there trying to win a football game. And Junior, I'll give you credit.
01:42:30
Speaker
His football is great. I love his dog even more. Yeah. I love his absolute tenacity, his absolute I don't give a flying fuck.
01:42:43
Speaker
When he scores a touchdown, he's like, oh, I'm back to the sideline. I'll dap you up quick. hey Hey, guess what? We're not on the sideline in time. like This guy is special, and I love that kind of selfishness play.
01:42:58
Speaker
And I just want to give you a bunch of credit. appreciate i do I didn't want to like this guy. But only for his lack of touchdown selly.
01:43:10
Speaker
Like, he just knows, like, hey, i to I scored a touchdown. He's like, I scored a touchdown in the national championship game. Who cares? Right to the sideline. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what. He could have mossed three guys. It doesn't fucking matter with this kid. He goes right to the sideline.
01:43:28
Speaker
Dude, I... Just on that alone, I love this guy.
01:43:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean... i I really do love this guy. And before I go on fangirling about one of Junior's guys, he plays a Cooper club cooper Cup. like I'm not saying he will be Cooper Cup.
01:43:51
Speaker
He plays like it. He's just so smart and he's so tough and he's so team oriented where it doesn't matter about him. It's just the game that goes on and I'm just here because I'm the best at it. That's Cooper Cup.
01:44:09
Speaker
A route tech, a route for Sean, if you will, where a that's not a word. A guru is a better word. I think I said what I wanted to say wrong. It doesn't matter. This guy's just special.
01:44:25
Speaker
And he knows he's special, but he doesn't care that he's special. Do you know what I mean? like He's like, I'm just football-based, and like, hey, I scored a touchdown.
01:44:36
Speaker
Doesn't matter.
01:44:39
Speaker
i just So I just want to give you props, Junior, because – i This guy should be one in every draft, and I'm mad he's not. I'm so happy that you're right, but I'm also so pissed that I couldn't be more...
01:44:55
Speaker
Right about this guy. if you know I tried to hate. I couldn't do it. I love this I'm glad you were able to overcome your bias because ah I know we were talking weeks ago you had him outside your wide receiver five. And I was like, you you're just wrong. You're just wrong. um But yeah, Makai Lemon's a stud. I have him more of like a JSN type player. And I know that's kind of high praise because, you know, JSN was the best wide receiver in football last season.
01:45:18
Speaker
But he plays just like him. He reminds me a lot of my guy Amarasi Brown. i I think he's going to be incredible at the next level. There's a little bit of a combine things like he didn't do too well in his interviews. Kind of people took him as like standoffish and a little awkward. i don't really care about that. He's a great football player and that shows up on tape week in and week out.
01:45:38
Speaker
um Moving on here to our last guy.
Carnell Tate: Precision & Promise
01:45:42
Speaker
Both of our consensus wide receiver ones in this class. um Really no surprise. Well, I guess maybe a little bit of surprise. But Carnell Tate, wide receiver out of oh Ohio State. I'm sick and tired of having why Ohio State wide receivers at the top of my draft rankings. It's getting boring. It's getting old. It's getting stale. But then again, success is boring if you're always at the top.
01:46:07
Speaker
I'm glad Mackenzie's not sitting next to me for this one because she would just be rubbing this in my face. But chrono tate six three 195 prototypical x wide receiver Downfield contested catch demon beats anybody in man coverage zone doesn't matter size speed combo is next level um My only question going into watching tape for him is, is he a T Higgins type of wide receiver where he kind of excels as the second option for a team, like having a Jeremiah Smith or having like a Jamar Chase for your T Higgins kind of player? Or can he be a standalone wide receiver one dominator for a team?
01:46:49
Speaker
And after watching his tape, I think he can be. Natural hands catcher, smooth throughout his route, long strider, incredible footwork. He sets up his corners and safeties really well down the field, and that is his game, is setting up corners, setting up safeties, beating men down the field, and just being gone for a 50, 60-yard touchdown. Sorry for my hiccup.
01:47:12
Speaker
But catches literally everything. I didn't see a single drop on tape. I think I watched like six games of this guy. um He actually reminds me a lot of Devontae Smith. And i I honestly, I think he is. Do you have that comp too?
01:47:26
Speaker
I saw you get it. Yes, I do. ever It reminds me so much of Devontae Smith. Like he's kind of that lanky, tall, long rider kind of feel. Like he just he looks just like him and he comes down with all the big catches like he can torch his body in any kind of way. um If if you're one on one with this kid, like he's coming down with it. um Absolutely. I love that comp and I'm glad you have it, too, because it makes me double down even harder than I know what I'm talking about. This. um It's spot on. He works back to the ball very well, especially for a guy at his level, high level competitor. i like this guy a lot. The only negative I have on him is I think he can be a little he's like a one track mind kind of wide receiver like he's a deep ball guy. But I think he has the versatility, the footwork, the route running to go to the next level and even outperform what he did at Ohio State because he does what he does the deep ball thing, beat your one-on-one corners down the field very well. I think he can even build on that and be better at the next level. So, yeah, Carnell Tate's the wide receiver one. Kind of consensus. It feels a little boring. um I might end up switching that by the time the NFL draft comes around. oh Whoa,
01:48:42
Speaker
I'm kidding. um ah But you shouldn't because Cardinal Tate is special. like um And you had Devante Smith as comp, and that is that that's butter.
01:48:53
Speaker
That's what I have as my comp. It's just everything tough. This guy doesn't miss a deep ball. it's It's him. He has like an 80-20 chance when it comes to deep balls. Carnotate, 192, 4-5-3 at the 40. And Tate played so much faster than that. I'm shocked he didn't run in the 4-4s.
01:49:17
Speaker
Like, his tape seemed like 4-4-3. And it's crazy. Second team, All-American, first team, All-Big Ten in 2025. For me, he's a route savant.
01:49:29
Speaker
This is the same type of grade I gave to JSN with his route knowledge. He's so good at using his tempo in his routes. And I hope you saw the Penn State game.
01:49:44
Speaker
Yeah. Aficionado at using tempo to create separation because that Penn State secondary is no joke. made them look like varsity players.
01:49:57
Speaker
Like, it's so silly how bad he made Penn State look. And it was like, I'll set you up with one play where I'm going deep and I do a little i do a little move and I'm gone. Or i I sit down a little bit, I tone down, and I do a curl. And then he's just like sees a corner and off coverage, he's eight yards off, and he's like, no, I'm not just going to cut this route. I'm gonna make you look so fucking stupid you're not even close to the play.
01:50:27
Speaker
And he does that. And it's not just Penn State he does it to. He's so good at that. He's so good at tracking the ball in the air. He's so good at contested catches.
01:50:38
Speaker
He doesn't drop the ball. He's so good at high-pointing the ball. Finds soft spots in zones so well. He's great after the catch.
01:50:49
Speaker
And like I said, my comp for him was Devontae Smith, and I thought that was being high. Apparently, I'm not high enough because this guy, without a doubt, no matter how the draft runs in April or whenever the draft does run, Carnell Tate will be my number one wide receiver off the board.
01:51:08
Speaker
As much as I love other guys, I don't care. Cardinal Tate is the number one for me. I love everything about him. I love everything he did. And Brian Hartline, God dang it, he doesn't have a great system over there at OSU.
01:51:24
Speaker
Yeah, just a factory over there for top-end wide receivers. Cardinal Tate is so safe. um he's you You just know he's going to be very good at the next level. um And that's a reason he's our why consensus wide receiver one this draft class. And, buddy, that, wraps us up um i think we're gonna probably throw our uh rankings out on the socials somehow some way so tune into the facebooks and the x's and the the whatever else channels we're on um to see our final rankings and you know some big just beautiful graphic that i'm sure i'll probably have to throw together but anyways um this was a fun one buddy uh obviously we we talked about it before but we put in a lot of work
01:52:05
Speaker
to be able to come up with these rankings and these breakdowns for you
Conclusion & Listener Engagement
01:52:08
Speaker
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01:52:15
Speaker
But as always, thank you guys listening. Ninja, anything to say to the people before we head out if you're a big fella? It's been a long one. I think this is going to be like closer to our pod. it It will be closer to our, and I'm just going to do – I mean, I'm sure we're going edit again, but I'm going to do the little guy a little bit of a favor. I hear that the kid's doing a little bit of a fever tonight, so I'm going to do Zig a little bit of a favor and kind of run through my top 18 picks.
01:52:47
Speaker
ah Just to keep it nice and simple for him. So if he doesn't know, he already knows. And then I'll throw it out to you. C.J. Daniels at the very bottom of the tier. Then Malachi Fields. Then a to you Antonio Williams, who for some reason Junior has so high. Don't believe in that. ah Ted Hurst also just okay. Zachariah Branch at 15. Jacoby Lane 14.
01:53:13
Speaker
ah Dion Burks, 13. Skylar Bell, 12. Omar Cooper, 11. I think my rankings are wrong. They should be one up. But Jeremy Bernard, 10. Chris Bell, 9.
01:53:26
Speaker
Chris Brazel, 8. Elijah Surratt at 6. That's where I said my ah editing got a little messed up here. So just move all those guys up a slot.
01:53:38
Speaker
Casey Concepcion at 5. five Mikhail Lemon at 4. Guys, I tried to not love him. He's fairly good. He's really good. He's my number 4. Jordan Tyson at 3. Denzel Boston at 2. And then Carnot Tate at number 1.
01:53:56
Speaker
And if you haven't, found that, you know, the ZNG podcast isn't doing enough fantasy work for you. Guess what? Eventually we're going to be breaking down running backs, quarterbacks, tight ends. We do all the fantasy position needs.
01:54:13
Speaker
But, you know, so you guys need to know. It's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. We're probably going to end up doing QBs, running backs, and tight ends in one episode. One pod.
01:54:25
Speaker
Frankly, though, there is not a lot of names to talk about in this draft class. There's you know only handful of players the middle positions. that much work. I can't do that much work again. Yeah, we're not going to break down too many players because there's not really any high-level talent in this draft class because it kind of stinks. I can't do 14 quarterbacks again.
01:54:43
Speaker
no that's not going to happen. Yeah, we're no more Seth Hennigan to row over those kind of guys. Whoa! Who was it this year? Luke Altmyer? Yeah, whatever. Who cares? Um, thank you guys for listening. I appreciate you guys tuning in as always. This was a fun one. This is a long one. So thank you guys for sticking through it. Um, getting to the end with us. Cause you know, we recorded this too. So we're here sitting here talking to a microphone for two hours. we appreciate you guys listening to us for two hours. Um, but yeah, like, uh, like subscribe, tell your friends, um, podcasts have been doing a couple of numbers recently. Um, you know, the boys have been buzzing. It is draft time. um So, yeah, Ninja, any parting thoughts for us?
01:55:25
Speaker
Yes, thank you for listening to the podcast. And do continue to listen to us as we do these breakdowns. They're a lot of work, believe it or not. You know, me and Gary are very busy guys. And it just, you know, it's a little sparkle of joy for us to see, you know, you guys actually listening to these breakdowns.
01:55:42
Speaker
And while wanting to hear these, it seems because the viewers have been going up and we appreciate everything about that. But thank you for listening. Hopefully you guys liked Joe Thomas being on last pod. night Shout out Joe Thomas. That guy is absolutely special.
01:55:59
Speaker
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01:56:21
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01:56:53
Speaker
Peace.