Intro
Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:41
Dakota Zeigler
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the ZNG Dynasty podcast, man.
00:00:52
Dakota Zeigler
We have a good one in here for you guys. If you guys haven't heard, a free agency has happened in the NFL. Just kicked up kicked off on Monday, and we have a lot of moving pieces to talk about here. This chessboard is all over the place. But as always, I'm joined with my good friend, you know, guy who actually shows up for a podcast on Tuesdays. and yeah consistency. He's over here battling an illness. He's on the DL. He's probably 70, 75%.
00:01:19
Dakota Zeigler
And he is still coming out here and giving you guys content. Take a guess who it is. Damien, the Ninja Moore. Say hi, big fella.
00:01:28
Ninja
How you guys doing? Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Trying to tough this one out. This was a game time decision. I let the boys know early that I was questionable going into today. it was a game time decision.
00:01:40
Ninja
Feeling all right as of right now. We'll see. Yeah, but definitely dealing with some stuff. Happy to be on with the boys. I'm mainly doing this to keep my streak alive of being here 100% of the time, all the time.
00:01:49
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, we got Cal Ripken over here.
00:01:52
Ninja
So, you know, I got to keep that record going.
00:01:54
Dakota Zeigler
Love to see it. And, ladies and gentlemen, we have a special guest on the podcast today. You've heard him here before, and if you know me, you've probably heard his podcast before as well.
00:02:10
Dakota Zeigler
We have JT Thomas, Joe Thomas, back on the podcast, buddy. Thanks for coming in. Say hi to other people.
00:02:17
Joseph Thomas
Hey, hello, people. hey i appreciate you guys having me on. I'll be perfectly honest. I don't even know if I remember how to do this.
00:02:25
Joseph Thomas
So I'm just going to roll with you guys and and settle in for the ride.
00:02:27
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. Yeah. Microphone's on. We can hear you well. a little bit of background noise, but hey, that's a podcast, ladies gentlemen. yeah, so without further ado, I think we just head
Raiders and Ravens Trade Drama
00:02:38
Dakota Zeigler
right into the news. We got plenty to talk about. Strap in for this one, guys. It's going to be a good one.
00:02:45
Dakota Zeigler
First off, man, we got some big news to talk about. We're going to start with the trades here that have happened over the last couple of days. And to be honest, I was real excited to sit here and talk about the Raiders trading Max Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens for two first round picks, 14th overall in 2026 and their first round pick in 2027.
00:03:09
Dakota Zeigler
But as of about 10 minutes ago, The Baltimore Ravens have backed out of the Max Crosby trade for, as of now, no good reason.
00:03:21
Dakota Zeigler
If we hear some kind of statement from the Baltimore Ravens during this podcast, I will hit you guys with a breaking news and let you know. But as of now, we can only speculate. We've heard some rumors that are unsourced, but maybe Max Crosby might have failed his physical, might have a bum knee, unconfirmed so far. But...
00:03:40
Dakota Zeigler
Ninja initial thoughts on the Ravens just saying like, Hey, JK, I actually don't want to trade for Max Rosby.
00:03:49
Ninja
This is the first time we were talking about it before we started of like a big notable player, like getting backed out of a trade. Like we've never seen this. At least I've never seen this for a big name like Crosby.
Raiders' Rebuilding Strategy
00:04:00
Ninja
I love the trade initially. I thought the Raiders finally were trying to get some picks to rebuild that God awful organization. And I think they were doing it well. I think their free agency besides this was really good. But now that Max has maybe failed a physical or the Ravens just, you know,
00:04:18
Ninja
got home showed the nice new prize to the wife and she hated it and had to return it i'm not sure it's really weird like i said i've never heard of a team backing out on a big name like this so i could i'm gonna assume it's a physical but i don't know very interesting
00:04:37
Dakota Zeigler
I have, if the reasons that the Ravens backed out was because of a failed physical, I think the Raiders throwing out their little statement that the Ravens backed out was almost like a little bit of a political move. Because I've heard of, we've all heard of like this player failed the physical, you know, transactions not going through either free agent signings or trades. Like we've heard that, you know, the player failed their physical.
00:05:02
Dakota Zeigler
The Raiders throwing it out there that the Ravens backed out to like kind of throw them like, hey, you guys screwed us over. It's kind of nuts. Joe.
00:05:26
Joseph Thomas
He does have one of...
00:05:27
Dakota Zeigler
Right the pod. Right into the pod.
00:05:28
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, friend the pod. He dropped something about a Diana Rossini tweet about failed physical. Don't know if I can verify that or not. Don't know, you know, who she is. Writes for the athletic. Could be right. But either way, I think the Ravens, there they see that, hey, we need to get out of this. Because you don't trade two first-round picks for a 30-plus-year-old man that was on IL last year.
00:05:50
Joseph Thomas
You can't do that. I don't care how much of a disruptor in the backfield he is. Besides, they're not going to the Super Bowl anyway. They're going to need those first-round picks to rebuild that organization because it's time for them to start over.
00:06:00
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, didn't matter either way. i kind of I was excited to sit here and talk to you guys about how I think that 2027 first round pick for the Ravens might be a pretty decent pick for the Raiders.
Chiefs and Rams Trade Moves
00:06:11
Dakota Zeigler
like I don't think the Ravens are a shoe-in to make the playoffs. like i I think that pick can be in like the you know early teens.
00:06:18
Dakota Zeigler
But here we are. It backed out. Nothing happened. Max Crosby's back to being a Raider.
00:06:21
Ninja
that you know, let's show you how it goes.
00:06:22
Dakota Zeigler
What does he do now? Yeah.
00:06:24
Ninja
That's really good to know if you're teacher.
00:06:25
Dakota Zeigler
Does anybody trade for this guy?
00:06:26
Ninja
So, I'm sure you're teacher.
00:06:26
Dakota Zeigler
Obviously, if he failed his physical, this he might just be done and have to just stick to the Raiders.
00:06:27
Ninja
I'm sure you're teacher. I'm sure you're a teacher. I'm sure you're teacher.
00:06:31
Dakota Zeigler
But if you're a team and you hear Max Krause, you've got a bum knee.
00:06:32
Ninja
I'm sure you're a teacher.
00:06:34
Dakota Zeigler
like Do you trade a late third-round pick, like a late-day three pick for him just to give him a shot? I don't know.
00:06:44
Ninja
I think the problem is is the cap hit that he brings with. And one question I have is the Raiders spent a lot of money in free agency thinking that Max Crosby was going to the Ravens. So how does Max Crosby affect their books after all of their new signings?
00:06:54
Dakota Zeigler
That's also true.
00:06:58
Ninja
I don't know because the Raiders spent a good chunk of money.
00:07:01
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, which we'll get to here a little bit. But, man, I've never seen a big-time player get just backed out like that. Yeah.
00:07:09
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with the ninja here.
00:07:12
Joseph Thomas
The money that they spent thinking they were getting him off the books. Are we going to see some of these trades since we're in legal tampering?
00:07:19
Joseph Thomas
Are we going to see some of these trade or these free agent signings go away come tomorrow? Because now they don't have that money.
00:07:25
Joseph Thomas
if i'm If I'm a team with a lot of compensatory picks, maybe I'll shoot one out there and get a bum knee player and see if I can rehab him, work him 30% snaps
DJ Moore's Trade Critique
00:07:34
Joseph Thomas
and see if he can bring something to the locker room.
00:07:36
Joseph Thomas
But absent that, this guy is stuck. He might have to retire and walk away.
00:07:40
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. That's tough. man, just such a weird situation. Next trade we have to talk about here, the Kansas City Chiefs have traded Trent McDuffie to the Rams for their 2026 first-round pick, the 29th overall pick, not the 13th overall pick, and a couple of late fourth and fifth-round picks.
00:08:01
Dakota Zeigler
Massive trade for the Rams. I think they get a stud player here for a late first-round pick, and they become immediate for In my opinion, probably Super Bowl favorites, if if not the favorites you get out of the NFC. They also signed a former chief cornerback, Jalen Watson. Kind of would throw that note in there. Basically just stealing the chief secondary.
00:08:22
Dakota Zeigler
But Chiefs getting another late first round pick. Does that change your guys' opinions on who the Chiefs go with at 9, knowing now that they have 29 on like the back end of their books? Ninja.
00:08:35
Ninja
I don't think this really changes the draft philosophy for the Chiefs because I do think they're probably going to go offensive line at 9, depending who gets there. Maybe it's Fownao, Maui Noah, who I hear in NFL world is sliding down.
00:08:52
Ninja
i don't think – so 29 is like a – I don't know. They're going to have to go secondary or maybe they like – they think – Caleb Downs is going to slide and they can take him up at 9.
00:09:03
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. Yeah. Or do they go Mansoor Delane now?
00:09:05
Ninja
Something like that.
00:09:07
Dakota Zeigler
Because they probably need a corner.
00:09:09
Ninja
Maybe. But on the Rams side, I love it that they're allergic to drafting first round picks. I think they traded all of their first round picks in the last 8 years except for the year they got Jared Verse, which was a home run first round pick.
00:09:15
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, they hate him. 13.
00:09:23
Ninja
And they're just like, nope, we don't need them. See ya. We don't need these picks. But they still have, what is it, 16 or 13 for the Falcons, which is the only reason I think the Rams do this move.
00:09:35
Ninja
And you're right, make some instant Super Bowl favorites.
00:09:38
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, because they can still get a great player there at 13, probably a wide receiver, maybe great defensive end, maybe a tackle. like they have The 13th pick in this draft is going to be someone very special. Joe, thoughts on this trade?
00:09:53
Joseph Thomas
I hate the Chiefs. So, I mean, that's my thought. But, Damian, you hit the nail on the head. Imagine being allergic to first-round picks. They would not do well in fantasy. But every time they make these picks or picks that they trade, they hit. They go to playoffs. They go to Super Bowls. They they go to NFC Championship games. So, who am I to knock what they're doing?
00:10:13
Joseph Thomas
you You make one pick in 10 years, and it's Gerard Burst, and he's just a disruptor in the backfield. Almost knocked the Eagles out of Super Bowl two years ago. So, They know what they're doing. I'm going to let them keep doing what they're doing.
00:10:25
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I think the Rams are kind of playing fantasy football like we are. Trade all those 2026 first. All the late 26 first. Try and get any capital you can. The Rams are doing the exact same thing.
00:10:37
Dakota Zeigler
But I think they're making some great moves. Another move here, Joe, so I'll throw this right back to you, buddy. DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills for a second-round pick.
00:10:46
Dakota Zeigler
Now, before I throw it to you, I was very appreciative that the Bills gave a second-round pick for DJ Moore because that made the A.J. Brown price go way, way up.
00:10:57
Dakota Zeigler
Everyone was mad the birds were asking for a first and a second. Hey, if we're trading DJ Moore for a second, A.J. Brown's got to be worth at least two firsts. So I appreciate you buddy. but what are your thoughts on DJ Moore pairing up with Josh Allen?
00:11:09
Joseph Thomas
You know me. I'm big-time Buffalo fan, and this is a great trade for Buffalo two years ago.
00:11:19
Joseph Thomas
All right? You're not doing that now. i wait at that I love the second-tier receivers in this upcoming draft, and the players you can get in the second round will last a lot longer than DJ will last in the Bills.
00:11:35
Joseph Thomas
Is it a good player for the team? Absolutely. For that price? Absolutely not. you sent You send a fourth and then maybe a seventh, you know, combine those to get there. We'll see. It doesn't matter. They're not going to Super Bowl because they're still Buffalo, so it doesn't really matter.
00:11:51
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I think the the part for me that was a little surprising is I would have rathered any wide receiver that they got would have gotten at like 26 over DJ Moore. Like if they would have left the, but left the draft with a Denzel Boston, Casey Concepcion, even in a Mark Cooper, like I would have been fine with that.
00:12:10
Dakota Zeigler
But now you're trading the second for DJ more. And now you're probably not going to go wide receiver in the first round. You're probably going to go defense, which maybe you should in the long run, but it just seems like a weird move that they were like, we need a wide receiver, bad AJ Brown too expensive. Let's just go throw money at DJ more.
00:12:25
Dakota Zeigler
we we're gonna see if it works out.
00:12:27
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, so that's that's their history.
00:12:29
Joseph Thomas
if If you remember last year's draft or whenever, they kept trading back with good receivers on the board, and then you take Keon Coleman at the top of the second. So maybe they're like they're the new Packers who refuse to draft wide receivers in the first round, and they're just going to try and piece it together throughout the offseason.
00:12:44
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I mean, it's worked out great for them. Moving on here, we're going to talk about some of the big-name free agent signings. For fantasy-wise and maybe even NFL-wise, I think the biggest and earliest free agent signing, at least I saw, was Kenneth Walker, K-9, going to the Kansas City Chiefs. At first initial impression, I was like, this is just a match made in heaven. you know like Best free agent, running back available,
Kenneth Walker's Chiefs Journey
00:13:14
Dakota Zeigler
desperately needs a running back, also has a higher-powered offense for the most part. Match made in heaven. My initial thoughts were K-9's like a top 12, top 8 running back in Dynasty. Love this guy for a redraft. I'm kind of souring a little bit on the draft because I'm—or a little bit on K-9 because I remember the Chiefs don't have the best offensive line.
00:13:37
Dakota Zeigler
Kind of took a big step back last year, but I think in a you know in a vacuum, this is a very good move for both sides. And Kenneth Walker's value, I think, shoots up in fantasy, especially in Dynasty Leagues. Ninja, what were your initial thoughts to K-9 going to the Chiefs?
00:13:53
Ninja
My first thought is gross, mainly because I don't like the Chiefs. It's a good sign. But for us, Fantasy, you're right. I don't like their all offensive line. Still needs some work. And for Fantasy, I think the highest he's going to end up being is probably sniffing right about that RB12 range.
00:14:11
Ninja
Maybe. i just don't think he's going to get the volume that we think because Kansas City, their defense is kind of getting a lot older, which means their offense is to have to do more, which they can, but it's not like you're going to take the ball out of Patrick Mahomes' hand at the end of the day. So what is his immediate run share?
00:14:35
Ninja
I don't know. like how How many rushes can we expect a game? I don't know. and Do I like Brashard Smith there already? Yes, so that might eat into him too.
00:14:46
Ninja
Overall, a good signing.
00:14:49
Dakota Zeigler
going to hit you with a couple of would you rathers. I know you've been all over fantasy recently and not having any real life work stuff to do. So you're very up to date with where the dynasty rankings are.
00:14:59
Dakota Zeigler
I'm to hit with a couple of would you rathers.
00:15:01
Dakota Zeigler
Would you rather have Kenneth Walker on the chiefs or Josh Jacobs in green Bay?
00:15:07
Joseph Thomas
Josh Jacobs.
00:15:08
Dakota Zeigler
Okay. Kenneth Walker or Bucky Irving, Tampa Bay.
00:15:16
Joseph Thomas
Bucky Irving.
00:15:16
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. Ooh. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now this
Player Contracts and Fantasy Impacts
00:15:20
Dakota Zeigler
is going to be a fun one. Kenneth Walker or the new running back for the new Orleans saints, Travis ETN.
00:15:34
Dakota Zeigler
Kind of getting our kind of get ahead of ourselves a little bit.
00:15:37
Dakota Zeigler
Yes, Travis ETN signed with the Saints, but what are your thoughts?
00:15:40
Joseph Thomas
Give me EPN.
00:15:42
Dakota Zeigler
Oh, I love it.
00:15:42
Dakota Zeigler
I love it. K9's low on your rankings.
00:15:43
Joseph Thomas
But that's. It's not ranking. So for for fantasy purposes, the main reason i would go ETN is because they're going to commit to, what's that guy Tyler Shuck.
00:15:55
Joseph Thomas
They're going to need to run the ball. We know the Chiefs, Mahomes going to do whatever he wants. I feel this was a signing for the fans. They traded away McDuffie. Mahomes got hurt. they They didn't make the playoffs. They needed a spark to get the fan base back. They're about to move that team.
00:16:10
Joseph Thomas
So they needed to make an impact.
00:16:13
Joseph Thomas
And they hey, we're going to bring the Super Bowl get our run game back. I think this was signing for the fans. It doesn't move the needle on me for the Chiefs. I helped him homes, their playoff team. So maybe they go to an extra round and just knock Buffalo out one round later than they normally would.
00:16:27
Dakota Zeigler
was awesome that was awesome next big phrase in signing Alec Pierce went back to Indianapolis for a bag and Indianapolis after re re-signing Alec Pierce to massive deal traded away. Michael Pittman jr. To the Steelers for like a late round pick swap, basically nothing.
00:16:46
Dakota Zeigler
Kind of shocking. I really didn't see Alec Pierce going back to Indianapolis. I figured they would kind of let him walk because they were just going ask. Pierce was going ask for so much money, which he got from Indianapolis. So kind of surprising move. Ninja initial thoughts here.
00:17:01
Dakota Zeigler
And I don't know how you feel about Alec Pierce fantasy wise, but I think football wise, he's a pretty good wide receiver.
00:17:10
Ninja
Yes, football-wise, very good wide receiver.
00:17:10
Dakota Zeigler
Any qualms?
00:17:13
Ninja
And I said it a couple weeks ago, definitely to the one member who never seems to be on this podcast. Alec Pierce is actually one of my favorite off-season buys.
00:17:24
Ninja
Now, I don't know how capable that is After he signed this contract, I was sliding in offers two weeks ago trying to gauge what Alec Pierce was. I was throwing a 26 second, seeing if that would move the needle. No one bit, sadly. But now I think people are going to want to first based on that contract.
00:17:43
Ninja
But I like the wide receiver. I think it's definitely more of an NFL signing than fantasy signing. Because that quarterback situation, we still don't really know if Danny Dimes is going to be back fully healthy.
00:17:56
Ninja
i think A-Rich is there for now as the backup. Don't like that either.
00:18:01
Ninja
So it's what's the quarterback situation, and that'll all depend on how I value Alec Pearson fantasy.
00:18:08
Dakota Zeigler
Right now it's the Irish's Riley Leonard, the only QB in that QB room, basically. Joe Thomas, do we care about Alec Pearson Indy?
00:18:19
Dakota Zeigler
Fair. Fair. couple quick notes here. Kate Otten went back to Tampa Bay. Kind of surprising. I thought he would probably go somewhere else, but goes back to Tampa Bay for like 10 million years. as Well, pretty big contract for him, but we all know he's not relevant. Fantasy wise.
00:18:34
Dakota Zeigler
Jalen Phillips. Got a bag from the Carolina Panthers. Four years, $120 million. dollars Definitely, in my opinion, the best defensive end in free agency.
00:18:46
Dakota Zeigler
But he gets a bag. Burieds were definitely not go to pay him $30 million dollars a year. I'll take a third round comp pick. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Joe Thomas.
00:18:56
Joseph Thomas
Let's go back one.
00:18:58
Joseph Thomas
Kate, Kate, uh, and a few other picks.
00:19:01
Joseph Thomas
We're going to talk about the guy that left Tampa. Doesn't that kind of move the needle a little bit more for Kate Iden with, with the big one, three leaving in Tampa. I'm not saying he goes, you know, into Titan one tier, but if he's, if say, if he was Titan 20 last year, I think this could push them up to 16 or 15.
00:19:20
Joseph Thomas
Those young guys are unproven. You know, God, we couldn't say healthy to save his life. He's like the new, Crap, what was that kid Davey used to make fun of? that Will Fuller. So I think Kate Iden coming bring back to Tampa will really – I think this moves the needle up.
00:19:30
Dakota Zeigler
That's a shout.
00:19:34
Joseph Thomas
He can come up four or five spots in that tight end rankings.
00:19:40
Dakota Zeigler
Maybe a little if I'm forcing it. Like if my gas tanks on E, like it put enough gas in my tank to like get me home. That's it. Like I, it doesn't excite me at all.
00:19:53
Joseph Thomas
Yo, that's all I need for for a bi-week or or a ninja parlay. Just to get me home.
00:19:58
Dakota Zeigler
Sure. Yeah. Just get you home kid.
00:20:01
Dakota Zeigler
He'll score three touchdowns next year. And if Ninja got one of them in his parlay, let's go.
00:20:06
Dakota Zeigler
That's who. Yeah. Ninja.
00:20:09
Ninja
I'm going to bring it back one more. i was talking about what QB is there in Indianapolis, and I so forgot how I could forget the QB GOAT of this last year's draft class.
00:20:20
Ninja
Seth Hennigan is fourth string right now.
00:20:22
Ninja
so Expect some big things there in Indianapolis. Alex Pierce, top 12 wide receiver, getting it slung from Seth Hannigan. We love to see it. Kate Otno, I agree. I think he slides up a couple spots kind of into that tight end one conversation.
00:20:39
Ninja
But I also am a big fan of Kenyon Sadiq and Eli Stowers in this draft.
00:20:44
Ninja
I think they can be right around that range immediately coming out the draft. We'll see. And then Jalen Phillips, another good bird, gone, but got an absolute bag.
00:20:56
Ninja
That Carolina defense is like shaping up to be something pretty competent, pretty good.
00:21:24
Dakota Zeigler
and this was the one This was the one for agent signing where you knew one of these lower teams were going to give Malik Willis a stupid amount of money to come be their starting quarterback.
00:21:35
Dakota Zeigler
I loved Malik Willis coming out of the draft. He was my QB1 in that class. That class was awful, but he was my QB1. I still believed in him down in Tennessee. Obviously, it didn't work out.
00:21:48
Dakota Zeigler
He improved a little bit last year with Green Bay. Is he worth $67.5 billion, dollars Joe?
00:21:57
Joseph Thomas
this just, like how many years was this? This just, yeah, so this is just locking up New England and Buffalo 1-2 in this division for the next three years.
00:21:59
Dakota Zeigler
Three years. i think he can technically get out in two, but it's like three years.
00:22:08
Joseph Thomas
I mean, they, Tua was there. Tua gave them chances to win a game when he was allowed to stand straight and he could read the finger, count the fingers on part of him. Malik Willis moves the needle backwards.
00:22:19
Joseph Thomas
I have no idea what they were doing. They've already let Tyreek Hill go. Thank goodness. Jalen Waddell will be on draft night asking for a trade, and they're going to have to move him. This team is garbage. It's a dumpster fire. These are the new Raiders going backwards. We have two Raiders in this division, and this is one of them.
00:22:40
Ninja
So I also, it's kind of like an eh signing, the Dolphins won't be good, but for fantasy, Malik Willis was my number one offseason bye.
00:22:51
Ninja
Because if he shows any little bit of what I saw in Green Bay when he took over some games, I think he could backdoor himself into the QB1 range just off of
Raiders' Investments and Player Moves
00:23:03
Ninja
rushing yards and touchdowns alone.
00:23:06
Ninja
Uh, so maybe a sneaky little buy there. I'm not saying the team's gonna win games, but I'm saying for fantasy, I could get on board with that, Joe.
00:23:15
Joseph Thomas
For fantasy, quarterbacks I'm taking over Malik Willis, Danny Dimes, Tyler Chuck, uh, where Kyler Murray, he's not even signed.
00:23:19
Dakota Zeigler
Yep. Oh, okay.
00:23:27
Joseph Thomas
Uh, uh, uh,
00:23:28
Ninja
That's the word on the line.
00:23:29
Dakota Zeigler
JJ McCarthy.
00:23:30
Joseph Thomas
J.J. McCarthy, and he's the third string.
00:23:31
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:33
Joseph Thomas
Seth Hannigan, quarterbacks I'm taking over Malik Willis.
00:23:36
Joseph Thomas
This is ridiculous.
00:23:38
Joseph Thomas
No, no, I can't do that. I'll take it to him.
00:23:41
Dakota Zeigler
i was hoping how low we can go.
00:23:42
Dakota Zeigler
How low can he go?
00:23:44
Joseph Thomas
the rookie, whoever, the Fernando kid that the Raiders are going to take number one. Give me give me Ty Simpson.
00:23:50
Dakota Zeigler
I was just going to say that too.
00:23:54
Dakota Zeigler
Justin Fields.
00:23:58
Dakota Zeigler
estimate All right.
00:23:58
Joseph Thomas
like yeah Give me Aaron Rodgers.
00:24:01
Dakota Zeigler
i I see what you're saying, Ninja. I don't. It feels weird. I love the Russian QBs for fantasy. I just don't. I'm not. What would you trade hypothetically for Malik Willis?
00:24:15
Dakota Zeigler
if Say if you had Malika Willis and someone offered you something, what would you accept for Malika Willis?
00:24:20
Ninja
I'd probably take, like,
00:24:22
Dakota Zeigler
Would you send a late late first in 2026, like 112? So
00:24:26
Ninja
if my team was already set, yeah. Like, if I just need, like, a quarterback and my roster's set, sure.
00:24:33
Dakota Zeigler
so hypothetically, if a man drafted Malika Willis at the 112 about four years ago, would that be a good move today?
00:24:42
Ninja
What are you trying to get at?
00:24:44
Dakota Zeigler
Don't worry about it.
00:24:44
Ninja
If I just drafted Malik Willis at 12, it's all circumstance, man.
00:24:44
Dakota Zeigler
All right, moving on to the next.
00:24:48
Ninja
If Malik Willis does what I think he could do, which is back into the QB1 range, I'll trade a late first in this draft for it any day of the week.
00:24:58
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I don't hate it. Off the top my head, you're kind of trading rights to like, i don't know, to Darion Price.
00:25:08
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. the Isaiah Likely signed with the New York football Giants, and they made him the third highest paid tight end in league, I'm pretty sure. im Kind of nuts, kind of crazy.
00:25:19
Dakota Zeigler
Me and Ninja were talking before this pod. I love Theo Johnson. I don't think they needed to make some big upgrade splash at tight end.
00:25:24
Ninja
I think it's lot of fun.
00:25:26
Dakota Zeigler
But Isaiah Likely going to the Giants.
00:25:26
Ninja
I think it's a lot of fun.
00:25:28
Dakota Zeigler
Joe, first initial thoughts. Just help out Jackson Dart.
00:25:30
Ninja
think it's lot of fun. think it's a lot of I think it's a lot of fun.
00:25:36
Ninja
think it's lot fun. I think it's lot
00:25:41
Joseph Thomas
This is going to free him up. Theo, while he will have to take a back seat, he's still going to be on the field. He just won't be getting all the targets, likely will get all the touchdowns. I'm going book this right now, early preseason. Take this to your Hot Takes podcast, Damian. Isaiah, likely double-digit touchdowns in the Meadowlands.
00:26:03
Dakota Zeigler
You heard here first, ladies gentlemen.
00:26:05
Dakota Zeigler
You heard here first. Ninja, any thoughts, any qualms?
00:26:11
Ninja
That's a really high touchdown bid for Likely. i like it if he can stay healthy. I kind of wonder. Harbaugh was there with the Ravens, got Mark Andrews to sign that big extension, didn't re-sign Likely. He knew he was going to get canned, went out the door and got his guy he originally wanted and told Baltimore, screw you on the way out.
00:26:32
Dakota Zeigler
I love throwing all these hypotheticals out like these football players like actually care about this stuff. It's the best. I love it. Another big pre-agent signing, maybe the biggest of the offseason, Tyler Linderbaum, whatever,
Mike Evans' Surprising 49ers Move
00:26:47
Dakota Zeigler
signed with the Las Vegas Raiders and set an NFL record for...
00:26:53
Dakota Zeigler
Three years. I just had it and I lost it. $81 million. The highest paid interior offense alignment in the league. Not only the highest paid center, but highest paid interior offense alignment. I think it's all worth it too. Linderbaum's stud. Definitely the best receiver.
00:27:13
Dakota Zeigler
Offense alignment in free agency going to the Raiders. He'll be the center man for Fernando Mendoza coming out of the draft. I think it's a great signing for the Raiders. Hopefully they can keep him after Matt Crosby's now back on their books.
00:27:25
Dakota Zeigler
But I love the signing. They made a lot of free and signings that we'll talk about a little bit later. But Joe, thoughts on Linderbaum going to the Raiders?
00:27:33
Joseph Thomas
I mean, if there was even a nano bit of a doubt that they were taking Fernando Mendoza, this just locked that in. He's going to protect his young quarterback.
00:27:45
Joseph Thomas
They're still the Raiders, but they're making smart moves. And this is shocking to me. And i'm I'm really surprised. So maybe they won't be in the basement next year. Maybe the Chiefs lose the game to the Raiders and that'll make me happy.
00:27:57
Dakota Zeigler
That would be awesome. Shout out to Kat in the background too. Ninja. I think for me, obviously this helps out Fernando Mendoza, but I'm looking at it as an Ashton Gentry owner, and I'm going, hell yeah.
00:28:10
Dakota Zeigler
Like this is awesome.
00:28:13
Dakota Zeigler
What are your thoughts? Obviously, Gentry fantasy-wise, you're assuming he's going to get a way better quarterback. They've already started making upgrades to the offensive line. couple wide receivers in there as well. Is Gentry a bye this offseason?
Raiders' Cap Strategy
00:28:26
Ninja
If you can somehow acquire him, yes.
00:28:30
Dakota Zeigler
I think he's gettable. People looked at that not great rookie year, and I think i think he's gettable.
00:28:35
Ninja
like but But what's the price? Are we really trading two first for Gentie?
00:28:41
Ninja
I don't know. like i like That's like borderline for me. I don't know. It's rough like trading that much for a running back like right now, where the game's going, where it's not all workhorse backs.
00:28:53
Ninja
I think Gentie is a workhorse, but it's hard to... kind of figure that and without seeing, I like Linderbaum, but is the offensive line going to really improve that much? I think it will, but will we actually see that stride? Cause I think Jenty on like 80% of his snaps was touched behind the line of scrimmage last year.
00:29:14
Ninja
And it's like, is it going to get that much better with one guy? i hope maybe, but I don't know if I'm going to throw the farm for Jenty, but I do think he's a buy pending price.
00:29:25
Dakota Zeigler
Joe, Jenty or Jeremiah Love?
00:29:32
Joseph Thomas
It depends. I'm seeing mock drafts with Love in D.C.
00:29:37
Joseph Thomas
If that's the case, give me Love. If he's in Arizona, give me Gentee.
00:29:46
Ninja
Love over JCM? Are you kidding me?
00:29:48
Dakota Zeigler
And we move on. Wanda Robinson got another big bag from the Tennessee Titans. This was one that was rumored last week, even like late last week, that Wanda was going to the Titans. He pairs up again with Brian Dable. I think this is a good signing for both teams.
00:30:08
Dakota Zeigler
Or both sides of this. Wandale, I think, obviously he'll probably be the 1A-ish there in Tennessee. And for Cam Ward, he gets like a bona fide check down slot guy that's reliable. A little bit of over the top speed. I like Wandale. I like this for Cam Ward.
00:30:29
Ninja
I don't know about 1A-ish. That's too much for my liking. Maybe a 2. But they already have their number one there. The absolute stud. Epic IU Manor baby.
00:30:43
Ninja
i think it's an okay move. Not at the price, though. That's a lot of money for a slot wide receiver.
00:30:47
Dakota Zeigler
Joe, is he talking about the wrong second-year wide receiver?
00:30:51
Ninja
Well, then, that makes Wondell Robinson the third wide receiver because Shamir Dike is also very good. Keep in mind, he was a top 10 receiver in my scouting process.
00:31:06
Joseph Thomas
You misspelled Will Levis. I'm totally confused here
00:31:11
Joseph Thomas
here. What happened?
Romeo Dobbs and Patriots' Offense
00:31:14
Joseph Thomas
bo obviously You're talking Cam Ward who's about to lose his job in the offseason to the male lover from down under.
00:31:23
Joseph Thomas
But no... I've been a Wendell guy for two years. He fits the system well. Whether he's 1A, 1B, 4-6, he's going to be a stud here. He's going to finish top 15 again.
00:31:36
Joseph Thomas
So give me all the Wendell you can get. i'm I'm taking him. oh I'm trading a late first to get to Wendell on my team.
00:31:44
Dakota Zeigler
Love that, actually.
00:31:46
Dakota Zeigler
I agree with that fully.
00:31:46
Ninja
I don't. I don't. That's. No. No, that's too rich.
00:31:52
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I like it.
00:31:53
Dakota Zeigler
I think Cam Ward can do something down there. Kind of a phrase in signing we talked about a little bit earlier, kind of teased it. Travis Etienne signed with the New Orleans Saints. Pretty big contract. Makes him one of the highest paid running backs in the NFL. And now New Orleans kind of takes themselves out of the Jeremiah Love race there at eight. But Kamara probably done, probably done the NFL if he doesn't retire this offseason. I love this signing.
00:32:18
Dakota Zeigler
I wish the other guy that does this podcast was on today to at least just talk about his love for Travis Etienne. His value is even higher now that he's on New Orleans than he than it was when he was with Jacksonville. I love it.
00:32:31
Dakota Zeigler
Everything to the moon. This helps out Shuck and Cheeky. Really helps out Bashal Tootin in Jacksonville. Love that kid. Ninja, initial thoughts. ETN going to the Saints.
00:32:44
Ninja
Yeah, so instead of being able to get him for a third, you're going to have to pass second, sadly. We hate to see it. I think it's an okay move. The Saints offensive line is good, but I was kind of hoping they'd kind of let Devin Neal rock a little bit.
00:33:01
Ninja
I think he did okay in those touches. Obviously, ETN is better now, but I was kind of hoping they'd give him a little bit of bit of a chance They also drafted Kendra Miller pretty high not too long ago. I was hoping one of those guys would kind of step up.
00:33:17
Ninja
But yeah, you had it right on the head. The biggest part of ETN going to the Saints is darn to in finishing as a top 12 running back next year.
00:33:29
Dakota Zeigler
Darn tootin'. Joe. ETN to the Saints.
00:33:39
Dakota Zeigler
The Raiders made another signing. we're gonna Actually, let's just talk about all the Raiders' signs. Let's get them over with. Jalen Naylor went to the Raiders on a three-year, $35 million dollars deal. Third wide receiver, formerly of the Minnesota Vikings, kind of didn't get a chance to shine there, playing behind Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, but now he gets to the chance to be one of the top dogs there in l L.A. Or, sorry, Las Vegas.
00:34:05
Dakota Zeigler
I like the signing. I love what the Raiders are doing mostly. They're really building like a well-rounded team. Now, they're not going to be... Playoff contending. They're not going to be one of these top teams in the NFL, but they're building a good young core around their quarterback of the future, Fernando Mendoza.
Jets' Defensive Focus and Draft Speculations
00:34:23
Dakota Zeigler
They're getting a good offensive line. They made a couple signings on the defense, which we can talk about now. N'Kobe Dean, they signed him, linebacker formerly of the birds, to a three-year, $36 million dollars deal.
00:34:35
Dakota Zeigler
Boo. Quiddy Pye signed a three-year, $48 million dollar deal, and they also signed another linebacker, Kawhi Walker, three-year, $40 million dollars deal.
00:34:45
Dakota Zeigler
Just kind of buffing up that defense. Obviously, I think the Raiders had the highest amount of salary cap to spend this offseason, and they are just throwing it around, kind of plugging a bunch of holes wherever they see fit. I think the main thing for me that I love what they're doing, obviously they're building a young core, and even some of these pieces are probably going to be long-term players for them.
00:35:07
Dakota Zeigler
But all the deals are like three-year deals at most. So if this goes wrong or it doesn't work out and they need to change ship in a couple years, they're flexible. They're not tied into these contracts for four to five, six years. Bunch of three-year deals. If they need to, they can re-sign guys later. If they need to, they can move on from guys later. I really think the Raiders are doing something special there. I think it's going to take some time.
00:35:32
Dakota Zeigler
You got to be patient. But they're running their team well. I really like Clint Kubiak. i think I think the Raiders are on the up and up. They'd be my team. I'm probably most excited to watch this season. Ninja, any e qualms?
00:35:45
Ninja
Not really any any qualms. My question with the Jalen Naylor signing, I think it's a good signing, but what are we going to see of Jack Bech or Dante Thornton?
00:35:55
Ninja
I just don't think... Pete Carroll just didn't play him at all for whatever reason. Jack Beck was a second-round pick. Rarely saw the field. I think he's going to get an uptick, but with Jalen Naylor there, who's really... like What's the top three wide receivers there? Trey Tucker, Jalen Naylor, and...
00:36:16
Ninja
Thornton, Jack Beck, I don't know. So that'll be interesting to watch, especially in training camp, see who gets the nod there. What I'm most happy about for this Raiders team is they finally got decent linebackers.
00:36:28
Ninja
Holy cow, it's been a decade. N'Kobe Dean, very sad. I heard a story that the Cowboys also offered N'Kobe Dean three-year 36, and he said, up yours, and went to the Raiders.
00:36:39
Ninja
Thank you, N'Kobe Dean, so I didn't have to cry on Sundays.
00:36:44
Ninja
shout out, N'Kobe Dean. You're a real one. Uh, and then Quidipe, I think it's okay. I mean, for an edge rusher, you're gonna have to pay. I think he's okay. Uh, and then Quay Walker, I think, was a pretty decent signing.
00:36:58
Dakota Zeigler
Would you say it's Quiddy okay?
00:37:01
Ninja
Give it. Yeah. You earned it, kid.
00:37:03
Dakota Zeigler
Shout out. Joe Thomas, Eddie Qualms.
00:37:06
Joseph Thomas
the only not with The only qualm I have is you said something an earlier when you started about they're not pushing for the playoffs this year.
00:37:14
Joseph Thomas
Don't know when I want to podcast again, so I'm going to keep dropping the hot takes.
00:37:19
Joseph Thomas
There are a couple of AFC teams that won double-digit games, I feel, will start taking backward steps next year. Jacksonville being in one, and I think the Chargers being one.
00:37:30
Joseph Thomas
I think if this team can backdoor into nine wins,
00:37:34
Joseph Thomas
They might be pushing week 17, 18, trying to get that eighth spot. Would not surprise me with these signings. That defense is going to be harmonious. I don't know if that's a real word, but it is today.
00:37:45
Joseph Thomas
And they're going to yeah and they're going they're going to put some people on notice.
00:37:45
Dakota Zeigler
It sounds awesome.
00:37:50
Joseph Thomas
And the AFC North, the Ravens what might be the only playoff team because they'll know what Aaron Rodgers is doing. And hot take number two, Joe Burrow will be traded at the deadline.
00:38:02
Joseph Thomas
Cincinnati will be moving on.
00:38:02
Ninja
one oh Whoa. love it.
00:38:06
Dakota Zeigler
First off, that was hot take number like five. But what?
00:38:09
Ninja
I love it. i love it
00:38:11
Ninja
I love it. First thing, you missed a team for the AFC teams dropping down out of the playoffs. Patriots will be on that list not making the playoffs next year.
00:38:19
Dakota Zeigler
Whoa. This is not the hot take spot. We're doing free agency.
00:38:25
Ninja
Joe got me inspired.
00:38:26
Joseph Thomas
and We're about to get going. Okay, I'm sorry. I'll back it up. but but I just feel like some of these teams will be taking a step backwards and this team is poised.
00:38:34
Joseph Thomas
I think the Linderbaum being the key to take a step forward, even without Max. Max doesn't play. These three guys playing helps that defense.
00:38:46
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, I got no qualms. I thought I was high on the Raiders. Here we are. Next for agent signing, Tua Tagovailoa, after being released by the Miami Dolphins, signs a one-year vet men deal to go to the Atlanta Falcons.
00:39:03
Dakota Zeigler
Why? Gross. Kind of weird. Ninja, do we care? Is he just going to back up Penix? Is he going to compete with Penix? I don't know.
00:39:12
Ninja
I think he might start. I really do. Penix is not good. Coming off another ACL, MCL, whatever it is, the kid can't stay healthy. It's his like fourth knee surgery.
00:39:26
Ninja
Tua has a really good shot at starting over nine games this year for the Falcons.
00:39:34
Joseph Thomas
who's Who's in Atlanta making these decisions?
00:39:37
Joseph Thomas
the kirk does The Kirk Cousins signing, the Pennix draft.
00:39:38
Dakota Zeigler
matt yeah Matt Ryan's had a player personnel.
00:39:43
Joseph Thomas
they're like Now we're bringing in two. What are we doing? the the The two things that they did right was KP at four and Bijan in the top 10. Absent that, this team is a dumpster fire at management.
00:39:56
Dakota Zeigler
I think they have a good shot to be in the 1-1 next year. how bad this team is.
00:40:03
Joseph Thomas
Ooh, so we're talking Arch Manning to Kyle Pitts? I love it.
00:40:06
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. Just, just keep on throwing darts at this quarterback position. Just hoping one sticks. Just really weird to me. Next signing kind of sad, Neil, and i'm actually going hit me with the sad music for this one.
00:40:18
Dakota Zeigler
Long, long time Tampa Bay buck. Someone would say a Tampa Bay buck legend. When you think of the Tampa Bay buck in the years, you think of two numbers, one, three,
00:40:31
Dakota Zeigler
Years and years in a row of 1,000-yard seasons. Yes, they did cherry-pick them. you know They were forcing them to ball at the end of that fourth quarter back in 2023. They did.
00:40:43
Dakota Zeigler
was it fun to watch. Quarterback after quarterback.
00:40:48
Dakota Zeigler
Brady winning a bowl. Baker Mayfield.
00:40:52
Dakota Zeigler
The amount of 13 jerseys in Tampa Bay that are now going to have to just be
00:40:54
Ninja
I'm not going to be able to do that.
00:40:58
Dakota Zeigler
Sitting in a closet collecting dust. It's sad. Mike Evans signs with the San Francisco 49ers. Kind of nuts. i really i think we talked about this on a former podcast. I really did not see him going anywhere else but back to Tampa Bay. And I think this says a lot about what that organization's doing down there in Tampa Bay. Todd Bowles ain't it.
00:41:25
Dakota Zeigler
Management there ain't it. If a guy like Mike Evans, legend for your team, is leaving like 31, something's wrong. I know he's got a lot of young guns behind him that they're maybe trying to make room for, but you're Mike Evans, dude. if you You can go anywhere.
00:41:43
Dakota Zeigler
Tied with San Francisco for three-year deal, $60 million. It's really like a two-year deal, I think. They can get out of it pretty easy. But I think it's a good move for San Fran. I don't know if I love it for Mike Evans' fantasy value. If anything, it helps out Brock Purdy.
00:41:59
Dakota Zeigler
Connie Muddy's up the waters for Ricky Pearsall. I don't know. It's kind of weird. I didn't and and didn't expect it. I haven't thought about it too much. Ninja, Mike Evans going to the Niners. Gross. Also, he's not going wearing 13 because Brock wears Who gets
00:42:15
Ninja
of... Mike, Brock can change. i actually like this move for both teams. We always talk about why are we why are teams holding on to their oldest asset?
00:42:22
Dakota Zeigler
it makes sense
00:42:27
Ninja
Even if they're good, if you're on the other side of 30, you're a negative asset. or you will turn into a negative asset very quickly. So them getting off of Mike Evans, who has been banged up the past couple years, they move on, and this is why they drafted Ebuka in the first last year.
00:42:47
Ninja
This is why they keep throwing these early dart throws at these wide receivers like Jaylen McMillan. It's why they re-signed Chris Godwin. They have a nice group going forward there,
00:43:00
Ninja
And they don't necessarily need Mike Evans to be productive in that offense. I think this is wheels up for Chris Godwin and Emeka Ibuka. I think Jayla McMillan is going to sniff the back-end wide receiver too if this offense can find a groove.
00:43:18
Ninja
And then for San Fran, you have your new number one because Brandon Ayuk decides he doesn't want to play football. You found your new number one.
00:43:26
Dakota Zeigler
forgot he existed.
00:43:28
Ninja
Yeah, he's out there in the world. yeah I'm pretty sure he's like yelling at the sea about some big old whale or something. Who knows? But they got a wide receiver one there, which they desperately needed.
00:43:40
Ninja
And this is going to help them get a big body guy because George Kittle is going to be late coming back into the season after his, think, torn Achilles, meniscus, something like that that happened late in the year. They needed a big weapon.
00:43:53
Ninja
And they got it. And I think this helps that whole offense where it's not just Christian McCaffrey and who else. You got Mr. 1000. a thousand Mr. Consistency. Mr. 13. Brock Purdy, hand over that jersey.
00:44:14
Joseph Thomas
I'm going to say two things because the second one might get me kicked off the podcast.
00:44:19
Dakota Zeigler
Here we go
00:44:20
Joseph Thomas
But for starters, I love the music. But when I think of Tampa Bay, you young bucks don't understand. I think of the big four or five. Mike Allstott, that's my Tampa Bay guy.
00:44:28
Joseph Thomas
But I love that. But... first of all, I feel bad that Mike Evans went to San Francisco with no quarterback. Happens to the best of us. But the answer to your question, who's going to wear the one three It's going to be Evans because Brock Purdy, a first and a third, will be moved for Joe Burrow.
00:44:50
Dakota Zeigler
there it is you heard it here first you heard it here first well that's why purdy's fur purdy's got value right
00:44:52
Ninja
Only one first-round pick?
00:44:56
Joseph Thomas
Apparently Purdy's a first-round pick, yeah. Yeah, Purdy, a first, and they'll throw a third. that That could become a second when Joe Burrow wins the Super Bowl.
00:45:06
Joseph Thomas
I don't know.
00:45:09
Joseph Thomas
Yo, San Francisco is an organization that knows how to treat players and run their organization. He is fed up in Cincinnati with how that organization is run. Trust me, he's going to be moved, and why not here?
00:45:22
Ninja
it was If anyone remembers when it was a long time ago, i think it was one of my solo ones. One of my favorite landing spots, if they it was a Joe Burrow, everyone thought you know he could get traded. San Fran was my favorite landing spot.
00:45:37
Ninja
Other than the birds, of course, but you know, whatever.
00:45:40
Dakota Zeigler
Bunch of ball nose here. i'm I'm just glad to be on this podcast, man. I really am. This guy's out here just no ball. Speaking of, Rashid Shaheed signed another massive deal to go back to Seattle. I thought he'd be gone, to be honest. I'm a little shocked he went back to Seattle, but pairs up with j JSN there.
00:46:02
Dakota Zeigler
Runs it back with the Super Bowl champs. I think it's a pretty good move. i think I'm fine with it, fantasy-wise, for Shahid. But most of all, it just helps out Sam Darnold. And to be honest, it helps out JSN as well. Any qualms?
00:46:19
Dakota Zeigler
Kenny G goes down to Tampa Bay to back up Bucky Irving. Another one is kind of like, wow, really? Kenny G to Tampa Bay. I'm thinking Tampa Bay is definitely moving on from Sean Tucker, and I think Rashad White are both free agents actually this offseason, if I remember correctly.
00:46:37
Dakota Zeigler
So Kenny G would be the backup there. or The other two would probably move on. I do think Kenny G will have a little bit of value down there in Tampa Bay. We know Bucky... He gets most of the touches, but he isn't really a pass catcher.
00:46:49
Dakota Zeigler
And that's what Kenny G does best. And Bucky Irving is known one to you know miss a couple weeks on a hammy every once in a while. So I think Kenny G definitely still has some value fantasy-wise. But for the most part, he's going to be a backup and like a 2A in a committee.
00:47:04
Dakota Zeigler
And he qualms.
00:47:07
Joseph Thomas
No qualms, but I must say, i remember when Kenny G used to mean something different in fantasy. I'm that years old, and I used to fight this dude. I won't name his name, but he's leading this podcast.
00:47:19
Dakota Zeigler
Wide receiver out of Detroit.
00:47:21
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, I used to beg you to try and trade him to me. I was like, I i was a Kenny G guy. And man, he fell off the map faster than, who's that running back for the Rams?
00:47:33
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, these guys both those guys just fell off. Two good years, and then they were done. Man, Kenny G, rest
00:47:40
Dakota Zeigler
I believe back in our day, we might have had a Kenny G for a Brian Edwards trade. do you Remember that guy?
00:47:49
Dakota Zeigler
Remember Brian Edwards?
00:47:49
Joseph Thomas
in peace. Ryan Edwards and Henry Ruggs. And now we're talking about the Raiders again.
00:47:53
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, here we are. all comes full circle years later.
00:47:58
Dakota Zeigler
have a signed Brian Edwards jersey up in my room, and I don't think I'm ever going to sell it. I think it's just going to die with me. It's going to be one of those things that just it just sticks with me forever.
00:48:07
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, that's probably worth more than Malik Willis right now, so...
00:48:11
Dakota Zeigler
probably...
00:48:14
Dakota Zeigler
Rico Dowdle signs with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Kind of fun, to be honest. I don't hate this at all. Jalen Warren and Rico Dowdle I think would be a good little one-two punch. And, you know, Pittsburgh is just building a run-the-ball, play-action kind of offense just to sign another 42-year-old quarterback, Ninja.
00:48:35
Ninja
Where is Caleb Johnson and how the heck is he not getting any work whatsoever?
00:48:41
Dakota Zeigler
Because he stinks.
00:48:42
Ninja
No, he doesn't. They had him returning kicks. He never did that in college. Why is he returning kicks?
00:48:49
Dakota Zeigler
Because he stinks.
00:48:50
Ninja
No, he's very good. You, Junior, what was he ranked for you in our rookie breakdowns?
00:48:52
Dakota Zeigler
Then why isn't he playing running back? Why is he not starting?
00:48:58
Dakota Zeigler
I don't remember.
00:48:59
Ninja
At the lowest four, right? Same here.
00:49:01
Dakota Zeigler
i think it was four or five.
00:49:02
Ninja
Yeah, there's no way this guy is bad. There's no way. I won't believe it. This is a gross move because this should be Caleb Johnson as the one be
00:49:13
Dakota Zeigler
I'm going back to my docs now to find my rankings. Joe, any qualms?
00:49:17
Joseph Thomas
I just I agree with Ninja. I'm not a fan of this. I was a Caleb Johnson guy, but I also understand it. Where Rico stepped in last year, had a massive stretch in Carolina.
00:49:31
Joseph Thomas
He gets paid. i I understand it. It's the business, but I'm going younger if I'm Pittsburgh. Your quarterback to 130, your running back room doesn't need to be the same age. I don't know.
00:49:40
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. And when with the combined age of both those running backs, are it's probably to be fun. It's going to be very old, almost retirement age, probably. Big, big signing that happened today, actually. Day two of free agency. Romeo Dobbs signs with the New England Patriots. Pretty big deal. I think it was over $70 million, four-year deal for 70 The Patriots also signed AVT Elijah Vera Tucker to start at guard for them, which is a very, very good signing. If AVT stays healthy, he's a very, very good guard. But Romeo Dobbs to the Patriots, I think he immediately becomes a wide receiver one there.
00:50:15
Dakota Zeigler
But it kind of puts him in another Packer situation where it's like Boutte is right behind him. Kyle Williams kind of on the up and up. You know, we got to Mario Douglas still there flirting around playing in the slot.
00:50:29
Dakota Zeigler
I don't think it's moving the needle too much for me for Romeo Dobbs' value, but I do like it for Drake May. I like it for the Patriots offense. Ninja, any qualms?
00:50:42
Dakota Zeigler
You're muted.
00:50:44
Ninja
Sorry, I was doing some work. I went back. Caleb Johnson who was my number four running back in that class. I think it's a good signing.
00:50:50
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I had my five.
00:50:52
Ninja
I think it's good. The question here is, can he stay healthy? That's the only issue I have. If he can stay healthy, I think he's a great, great signing.
00:51:06
Joseph Thomas
It's the Pats. They're going to do what they want to do. I was never a Dobbs guy. i told everyone that he was a wide receiver three on that team when he was there. Maybe he goes here and he does the one. this is This is all about Drake May and Trevion Henderson. that That's all that matters on that team.
00:51:24
Dakota Zeigler
Completely agree. Go ahead.
00:51:26
Ninja
Romeo Dobbs is Kayshaun Boutte.
00:51:29
Ninja
They're the same person.
00:51:32
Dakota Zeigler
I'd argue but taste better. very, very close. Another move that happened today. Geno Smith.
00:51:40
Dakota Zeigler
I'm going to hit this. Got traded back to the Jets, buddy. Oh, I'm so sorry. What a way to end your career, man. You've been around the bend. You started there in New York. They didn't want you.
00:51:53
Dakota Zeigler
You played for a couple of years. You're okay. They didn't want you. You moved all around the NFL, playing wherever you could, and now you're back with the New York football Jets.
00:52:06
Dakota Zeigler
Gross. he's I guess he'll he'll definitely start this year. They might even draft Ty Simpson, back him up for a year, and he'll probably be the guy, but who cares? Do we care?
00:52:21
Dakota Zeigler
Garrett Wilson?
00:52:21
Joseph Thomas
Yes, we care for for two things. One, if I remember my history correctly, didn't he punch somebody in the locker room and break their jaw when he was a Jet?
00:52:33
Dakota Zeigler
For sure Definitely did actually That that brought back memories But yes
00:52:34
Joseph Thomas
Oh, I was a...
00:52:37
Ninja
remember that the story.
00:52:38
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, I'm surprised he's coming back to the locker room. But second thing, I saw the meme on Twitter today, and I wish I saw who had put it so I could give them credit. But it was like, you know, Gino is, if you follow his last few years, he gifted Darnold to the Seahawks. He gifted Fernando to the Raiders. And now he's going to gift Arch Manning to the Jets. I mean, this guy's just a giver.
00:52:58
Joseph Thomas
He's just a giver. And that's what he's doing here.
00:53:03
Dakota Zeigler
Oh man, I wish we were doing an after dark pod because I got jokes. Man, I got jokes.
00:53:08
Ninja
yeah Throw it in, why not?...........................
00:53:10
Dakota Zeigler
Nope. Moving on here. That's kind of the last big free agent signing I have at least in my list. Nothing has come across my Twitter feed in the last few hours. Well, guess one we can talk about because, you know, we're birds fans here. Tariq woolen free agent corner signed with the birds today. Absolutely love it. One year deal says worth up to about 15 million dollars. I'm totally fine with it. Give him whatever he wants for a year. i don't care. Ninja. I think this is for me. It's the perfect cornerback to signing for the birds playing next to Mitchell Cooper. So gets to play in the slot.
00:53:43
Dakota Zeigler
And if we'll in balls out this year, we still get a chance to re resign them for another long-term deal if we want to, but we're still flexible. i think it's a perfect move. Any qualms?
00:53:55
Ninja
think it's an okay signing. I'm not that high on Tariq Willen.
00:54:02
Ninja
I think it's okay. Whatever, it's all good. But here's my problem with Tariq Willen signing.
00:54:10
Ninja
Is Reid Blankenship signed a three-year $24 million dollars deal with the Texans. We could have easily matched that... But instead we're paying $15 million dollars to a corner when we could have had an already solidified safety. And I'm happy with Koop on the outside.
00:54:28
Ninja
Very happy with Koop on the outside. He's good in the slot. Very good in the slot. Better in the slot. But a very fine outside corner. I don't understand this move. I'd rather have Blankenship and then move Kooper to the outside.
00:54:45
Dakota Zeigler
It sounds like to me you're taking out your sadness about missing out Reed Blankenship. on Tariq Woolen, and I don't think that's fair.
00:54:54
Ninja
We split up the exciting whites. What are we doing?
00:54:59
Dakota Zeigler
i I kind of i don't mind moving on from Reed Blankenship, if being honest. I think he was a fine safety. he was a great locker room guy. He was fun. He was a captain. But if we're being honest, we got Makuba coming up. If he stays healthy, I think the kid showed a lot of promise last year.
00:55:16
Dakota Zeigler
We can sign another safety. We can draft another safety. Like, I'm totally cool with it. Our biggest need in the secondary, I would say, would be cornerback two.
00:55:27
Dakota Zeigler
So I still i think this is a good move. You can find another safety. I mean, Sidney Brown was fine at safety last year. Not great, but he was fine. I'd much rather have a cornerback two that I don't have to worry about getting burned like a Dory Jackson was last year.
00:55:42
Ninja
I mean, fair, fair.
00:55:44
Dakota Zeigler
I'm umm very, very happy about this signing.
00:55:48
Joseph Thomas
Am I allowed to talk about birds?
00:55:50
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I'll let it go. Go ahead.
00:55:52
Joseph Thomas
I don't know and nothing about this signing, going have to talk to my guy at work and i see what he says.
00:55:58
Dakota Zeigler
yep And then you get back to us?
00:56:00
Joseph Thomas
For sure, for sure. I'll reach out to you on a Twittering device.
00:56:04
Dakota Zeigler
Sounds good. Appreciate it. so yeah, I think the last thing I kind of went to get at that kind of gets through us all the free agent and free agent signings and the trades that happened over the last couple of days.
00:56:15
Dakota Zeigler
I kind of want to talk about what these teams at the top of the NFL draft have done and kind of compare them to one another and see if any of these moves that these teams have made changes your perspective on them for the draft and maybe long term. So obviously we talked about the Raiders signing Linderbaum, Naylor, a lot of pieces on the defensive line, kind of setting themselves up to be the perfect team for Fernando Mendoza.
00:56:41
Dakota Zeigler
But the Cardinals also made a lot of moves, signed Isaac Salamalu to start a guard. They also signed Tyler Algier to play running back for them. And last I heard, the rumors were that James Conner is going to be back in Arizona next year. Whether or not he does anything or is healthy is another question. But at least they'll have running back there in Atlanta. For me, that kind of takes them out of that Jeremiah the Love race, the draft Jeremiah Love at three. But...
00:57:09
Dakota Zeigler
but Does it make their team better? Obviously, they moved on from Kyler Murray this offseason. Kind of a weird. Cardinals are confusing me a lot. They also signed Kendrick Bourne and garden new min Gardner Minshew to be their backup quarterback or maybe compete for their starting job there with Jacoby Brissett.
00:57:26
Dakota Zeigler
kind of Kind of strange, Ninja. The Cardinals. Any of these signings make sense to you at all? And do you still where do you think they go at three now in the NFL draft after the free agency?
00:57:41
Ninja
They just set themselves up to take Sonny Styles or Arvel Reese, whoever falls. I think Tyler Algier. At first I thought it was a fun signing because like, oh, James Conner's out of there. They bring in Tyler Algier. I think that's a fun little fantasy buy. But then I realized James Conner's still somehow on that team.
00:58:01
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I don't know how
00:58:02
Ninja
With Trey Benson and Algier, I think it would still be fun if they got Jeremiah Love. Because obviously Jeremiah Love clears all of the running backs they have.
00:58:12
Dakota Zeigler
how. Yeah.
00:58:13
Ninja
But it's not feasible now. Like cap-wise, you're not spending money on four running backs. But other than that, I think this is like a meh free agency. Like they didn't really do much of anything to improve what was a really bad defense. Yeah.
00:58:32
Ninja
And their all offensive line, like Isaac Ciamalo is okay. I think I would have rather just got a guy in like the second round, third round. Jennings Dunker sadly has been falling to the third round I've been seeing. I think he goes higher than that, but I love him at guard.
00:58:47
Ninja
Like Emmanuel Pregnon I think was prime for them in the second round.
00:58:53
Ninja
But they're just, their quarterback situation is gross.
00:58:57
Dakota Zeigler
Nasty. I think they are, if they don't go Ty Simpson, i don't know who's going to. I think they, if Ty Simpson's there, either the beginning of the second, maybe even they trade up in the late first. I think they have to go Ty Simpson. JT Thomas, what are your thoughts on this Cardinals team?
00:59:13
Joseph Thomas
me Could this be where Kirk Cousins lands as a bridge?
00:59:19
Dakota Zeigler
It's another just gross, nasty move.
00:59:21
Joseph Thomas
i know i and And I think that's that sums up the organization.
00:59:24
Dakota Zeigler
It's fitting.
00:59:26
Joseph Thomas
Marv hurts. Like, if I'm Marv, I'm dying here. Like, what what are we doing? I think they... I love the Sonny Stiles or the Reese there. Hopefully, if they're lucky, they get the Reese. Because, you know what, they probably will because the Jets don't know how to draft. Jets are at two, right?
00:59:41
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, just Jets don't know what they're doing.
00:59:43
Joseph Thomas
So, they'll get Reese at three. You can lock that in. But... I just don't know which direction this team wants to go in. I don't think they know what direction they want to go in. They don't have enough draft capital. I brought up their draft picks. they They only have one pick every round, so they only have the seven picks. like They're not going to make much of an impact. and they If they think Algier and Kendrick Bourne is their impact players, they got a lot of work to do. they They're like the Atlanta Falcons of the West.
01:00:08
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, this team stinks. Their quarterback situation is probably the worst in football right now with Bursette, Minshew, and then who knows. Next team I want to talk about here.
01:00:18
Joseph Thomas
Hold on. Could this be where J.J. McCarthy gets moved to?
01:00:24
Joseph Thomas
maybe Maybe that's where they start to reveal.
01:00:24
Ninja
i don't think minute I don't think Minnesota can move J.J. McCarthy. I think it's too late.
01:00:34
Dakota Zeigler
Everyone saw what he's really like.
01:00:37
Dakota Zeigler
the the What sucked for Minnesota is that he actually played football. He had so much more value when he was out his entire rookie year, and now it's just.
01:00:47
Joseph Thomas
I mean, no lies detected.
01:00:49
Dakota Zeigler
done. Tennessee Titans made a lot of moves during free agency. Obviously, we talked about Rondell Robinson, big wide receiver signing for them, but they brought in a lot of guys on defense. John Franklin Myers, who I like a lot. Old Jet that Robert Salah is bringing back to the Tennessee A couple corners they signed, a a couple of backups at like tight end and QB, but the Titans spending a lot on defense during this freezing offseason. Do you think it gives them a higher chance maybe to go offense in the draft at number four, Ninja? I kind of like this spot for Jeremiah Love.
01:01:24
Ninja
I also like this spot for Jeremiah Love. I'd like to introduce the New York Titans on the clock. they drafted they Everyone in free agency was from New York besides Elante Taylor.
01:01:36
Ninja
Everyone else was from a New York team with either Salah or... The OC there, Dayball. I almost slipped his name. I do think they... I'm curious. It depends who goes... If I think Rieser Styles is on the board at four, I think they'd take one of them. But if they're gone...
01:01:56
Ninja
Jeremiah Love is an easy slot in there for them, but I think if they get one of their, whichever edge rusher they view higher, whether it's Reese or David Bailey, and then Sonny Stiles, those three, pending how much they like them, but this is the ceiling for where Jeremiah Love can go now that free agency has kicked off.
01:02:21
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I agree. I think in my head, if I'm Tennessee, I'm taking Jeremiah Love at four because I can get a decent pass rusher, a decent linebacker in round two, in round three. i can't get a Jeremiah Love in round two or round three. Obviously, I think the the caliber of edge rusher is different at four than it is in the second round, but This draft is very deep at edge. It's very deep at linebacker. It's even really good at defensive interior, D-tackle. So I'm cool taking care of my love and then waiting on defense if I have to. Maybe even grabbing a wide receiver in the second or third round. So that'd be my move. Joe Thomas.
01:02:59
Joseph Thomas
So I hate to disagree with you guys, but I'm going to have to right here. for a couple of reasons. I love Jeremiah Love here. I think if they take him, I'm not mad about that pick.
01:03:11
Joseph Thomas
But if I'm running this organization, knowing I got a top four pick in the second round and my boy Nick will be there, some other running backs that are, they're not Love, but the player I'm taking right now at four is my favorite player in this draft. And I wish he would go top five, but he keeps dropping.
01:03:28
Joseph Thomas
I'm taking Caleb Downs. from Ohio State. I think he's the best defensive player in this draft because you're not going to find a Caleb Downs anywhere else in this draft. You take him off the board here, especially playing in that division with those quarterbacks. You need someone out there like that. And then get your running back in the second or third round.
01:03:47
Ninja
No flaws detected. I've been saying for at least a couple months now that Caleb Downs is my favorite player in this draft. I think he's the number one player in this draft.
01:03:57
Ninja
And I'd be so I never thought about it before. Caleb Downs going that high. I'd be very happy with the fit there on the Titans. I think it's a great spot for him.
01:04:06
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, that's really fun. We found another Caleb Downs guy. Love to see it. Man, Joe, I wish were on a podcast more so we could talk about these guys. Next team I want to kind of get on the New York Jets. Made a lot of lot of freeds and signings this offseason. For me, what I mostly wanted to talk about was they're signing all defensive players.
01:04:25
Dakota Zeigler
They signed two edge rushers, joseph Joseph Asai and Kingsley Inigbare. Nailed it. Two edge signings. They brought in DeMario Davis to play linebacker. Brought in David Onyemata as a defensive tackle.
01:04:40
Dakota Zeigler
Signed Dean Bellman as a safety. So they have a lot of defensive frees and signings this year. But the biggest thing is, where do they go at two? Obviously, I don't think signing both these edge rushers stops me from drafting an Arvel Reese at two.
01:04:58
Dakota Zeigler
But if the Jets thinks it does, where do they go? Do they go wide receiver? Do they go, do they trade back? Do they maybe go Caleb Downs, take a safety?
01:05:09
Dakota Zeigler
What do the Jets do if they don't go edge rusher? What's your thoughts, Ninja?
01:05:15
Ninja
I think they should trade back. But I don't think you can. I don't know who's coming up for who in this draft. It's very cloudy.
01:05:23
Dakota Zeigler
I think, I think if Arvel Reese, I think, is on is obviously going to be on the board at two. I think you can sell Arvel Reese to somebody if you don't think he's your guy at edge.
01:05:34
Ninja
Yeah, but who's who's coming up? like The team that would fit the most is the Commanders, but they don't have any picks draft. I think they have a 1, 4, a 5, 7.
01:05:42
Ninja
Bengals can't afford to move up. They have too many holes. They can't afford to package picks to move up.
01:05:51
Ninja
like That's my thing. I can't think of a team that would... Maybe the Saints could.
01:05:56
Dakota Zeigler
Maybe. Maybe.
01:05:56
Ninja
Maybe. But I think if they don't go edge, it's Sonny Stiles.
01:06:03
Ninja
Although, i don't know why they put the franchise tag on Brees Hall because I would love Jeremiah Love here.
01:06:10
Ninja
I would absolutely love it. That offensive line is good.
01:06:16
Dakota Zeigler
I think the first mantra we did together, you gave them a wide receiver at two. Do you think it's a possibility still?
01:06:21
Ninja
I think it's very much so. What worries me is Carnell Tate's 40 time. I thought Carnell Tate was the first wide receiver off the board.
01:06:30
Ninja
I still think he might be, but now I'm thinking with that 40,
01:06:38
Dakota Zeigler
Very interesting. Joe Thomas, I want your entire fantasy football rookie rankings right now go. Just kidding.
01:06:45
Joseph Thomas
Uh, Nick Singleton.
01:06:50
Dakota Zeigler
it Are you if you're the New York Jets, are you thinking at all about an offensive player here, too? Or are you just taking Arvo Reese just because?
01:07:00
Joseph Thomas
if if If this is a well-run organization, they're taking Reese. It's not a well-run organization. So this could be Ty Simpson, for all we know. like that's That's how poor this thing is running.
01:07:16
Joseph Thomas
This is what I want to say about the Jets. They have four picks in the first 44 picks. One pick every 11. The New York football Jets are the Jason DiNatale of the NFL.
01:07:29
Joseph Thomas
they're going to have like all these first-round picks. Then they'll next year, they'll be in a loser bracket, picking in the top two every year. So whatever they pick at two is going to be a mistake for that team, unless they go do the smart thing and get Reese.
01:07:44
Joseph Thomas
But then they also have a pick at 16. The Ninjas, right. Take that two down. Washington's at seven. see See what else they want to throw on top to come up five spots. Go back to seven. Get your Caleb Downs and build from there.
01:07:58
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I think that's a good move. Shout out, Dentali. I think if they could trade down, they would. It's just they do have to find a trade partner to actually go up and then you know make that move.
01:08:12
Dakota Zeigler
But I think that brings us to the end of the podcast. I have no other notes, no other breaking news is as of now.
Podcast Wrap-up and Technical Issues
01:08:19
Dakota Zeigler
Free agency's kind of slowed down. Birds have yet to bring in a tight end so far this offseason. Besides Grant Calcutta. So love to see it. Shout out, Grant Calcutta. No Kylan Granson. Sorry, Ninja.
01:08:33
Dakota Zeigler
But, yeah, so, Joe, first of all, I just want to say thank you for joining us, buddy. This is a great time.
01:08:37
Joseph Thomas
Yeah, appreciate it.
01:08:38
Dakota Zeigler
Appreciate you tuning in. But do you have any news or anything you want to say before we head out of here today?
01:08:44
Joseph Thomas
Well, I'm seeing I got some news that the Titans have now signed a punter to a two year deal. We forgot to talk about that. You know, tighten up, tighten up.
01:08:52
Joseph Thomas
But there are reports, official reports now from Shefty and the other sources about medical concerns that arose during the Crosby physical, which is why they backed out.
01:09:04
Joseph Thomas
So, yeah, it's this this is looking worse and worse for Crosby. His career may be over. So we'll see. But I do want to say appreciate you guys having me on. I know it's been a while. They say it's just like riding a bike, but it's like riding a bike and falling over and getting back going and falling over. i still don't know if I did this right, but, you know, I'm doing it here.
01:09:23
Dakota Zeigler
Beautiful. We appreciate hopping back on the bike. It was great having you on. Ninja appreciates having you on as well. A little bit of technical difficulties, but a little bit of an error situation. We're going get it figured out. you know We've done, what, 100 podcasts so far, and we you know can't figure out this one error that consistently happens at the same time, every podcast from the same guy. So we'll figure it out eventually. But as you know, Joe, I'm sure you'd tune in. Go ahead.
01:09:50
Joseph Thomas
Maybe he needs to get off that Android.
01:09:55
Joseph Thomas
Stoned it out there.
01:09:56
Dakota Zeigler
That's a talk. for maybe we're It sounds like we're doing after dark pot after this.
01:10:00
Dakota Zeigler
But as always, thank you guys for listening. Appreciate you guys tuning in. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. you know You never know what people are going through out there. So weather's getting nice. Your boy was outside in his new little townhouse this weekend. Get out. Enjoy some nice weather. Get some sunshine in you. I bet you it'll make you feel better. But be a friend. and Tell a friend something nice. Thank you guys for listening. in Appreciate you guys tuning in. And we'll catch you on the next one. Maybe with another special guest. Who knows?