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The Mandalorian and Grogu - Streamin' Demons Star Wars Nerd Special
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In a SPOILER FILLED Episode, Jo drags in Charlotte Noon — who has watched Clone Wars twice on purpose — to talk The Mandalorian and Grogu, a movie Jo refuses to call anything but the Baby Yoda show. They agree it's beautifully made. They agree they have no idea what the plot was. Both things are true at once. That's the episode.
The G-word — Jo sets the rule early: it's the Baby Yoda show, the PR team can get bent, the other word is never getting said.
Charlotte's credentials — A New Hope taped off the telly until the tape snapped, Jedi in the cinema, all of Rebels, Bad Batch four times, Clone Wars twice. Jo gets schooled on who Zeb is in real time.
The verdict — Ridiculously well made, don't look at the writing. Plays like a full TV season crammed into a movie, resetting the act every time Mando gets captured — which is constantly. Net character change by the end: about zero.
Practical effects win — Phil Tippett (yes, that one, also Mad God) does the creature work in stop-motion instead of CGI, and both agree it's the better film for it. Strings over gloss.
The recasting shuffle — Sigourney Weaver steps into a role rewritten around an absent actor, Gina Carano's character gets quietly swapped out, and the seams show if you're looking.
Where it lands — Andor's still the high-water mark. This sits around Ahsoka/Solo, below Rogue One and Andor, above Book of Boba Fett and the Acolyte.
Watch it where — Made-for-IMAX marketing aside, it's fine on the couch. Save the big screen for something that earns it.
Next time — Box returns for lesbian space princesses, then the crew takes on Obsession — a theater movie purely for the sound
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Transcript
Intro
00:00:06
Jo
everyone, today's special streaming demons is with my ghost. Why am I using this voice? Let me use my real voice. You want my real voice? Hold on. Hold on. Uh, by the way, Joe and hello, Charlotte's over there. Hello, Charlotte. How you doing?
00:00:19
Charlotte Noon
Hey. Hi.
00:00:21
Jo
I'm use my real voice. You go, I don't think, have you ever heard my real voice? I always talk about this around you because I think it's more sexier. But I'm just modulating my voice.
00:00:30
Charlotte Noon
your real voice. Yeah, I've heard it. I've heard it.
00:00:33
Jo
Am I really? Because this is my real voice today. Hello everybody. is my real voice. Turn off your speakers now.
00:00:44
Jo
No. Today is the Baby Yoda show. now Straight up. We're going to talk Mandalorian and I'm never going use the other word. It's always Baby Yoda to me. I don't know what the fuck the PR team's talking about. It's the Baby Yoda show.
00:01:00
Jo
The end. Thank you and goodbye. So like and subscribe now. Please. It helps people find our show so they can get me more hate mail about Lady Gaga. I made a Lady Gaga joke people fucking flamed me for.
00:01:11
Charlotte Noon
Lady Gaga?
00:01:13
Jo
I don't know. It's weird. I also want the goddamn tickets. So.
00:01:18
Charlotte Noon
Okay.
00:01:19
Jo
This is our Star Wars, The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda show because unbeknownst to me, you watched it the same time I was watching I had no idea. We're actually watching the same time, but different like continents.
00:01:35
Charlotte Noon
Which time would we watching at the same time? Because I've seen it twice.
00:01:38
Jo
Oh, you've seen it twice?
00:01:40
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:01:41
Jo
Well, these these are new shorts. I'm so sorry. I didn't i didn't know. I camera? and like No, my camera's... Oh, wait, baby you saw you saw a Baby Yoda twice. That's what it was.
00:01:49
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, so maybe Yoda twice.
00:01:51
Jo
hang on it Oh my God.
00:01:52
Charlotte Noon
That as well.
00:01:53
Jo
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I did not. I did not.
00:01:56
Charlotte Noon
okay
00:01:57
Jo
I saw it once and then we've got two. Holy Christ. It's two hours and 12 minutes long. Holy fucking shit. Okay. For a PG 13 show, not ours, obviously for, for a PG 13 movie, there's been a lot swearing.
00:02:11
Jo
So hide kids or no, I don't hide your kids. That's kind of weird. Where would you hide your kid in? There's only some kind of Island. They all can go. Hey, pervert. I was talking about Peter Pan, not the other one. What's wrong with you?
00:02:26
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I'll pick a pound with pervert, yeah.
00:02:27
Jo
No, the... Yeah, probably. I mean, whole Lost Boys. I was i was screening the Lost Boys a couple days ago.
00:02:32
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, stealing kids.
00:02:35
Jo
It's... love it. But here we go. The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda. So i'm gonna read the tagline. It's PG-13. Jon Favreau written, directed, and something like that Once alone, Bondi Hunter, Mandalorian.
00:02:48
Jo
Oh, he's got a name. Din Darjean. Oh, man, come on.
00:02:51
Charlotte Noon
It's been jarring. It's been jarring.
00:02:54
Jo
Fine. And his apprentice, Baby Yoda, embark on exciting new exciting new Star Wars Avenger. Jesus Christ. Did Favreau write this log line? It's shit.
00:03:05
Jo
I mean, I think he's a good writer. That's why was kind surprised this log line is so generic. It's like, fuck it. but That's my beef with this movie, by the way. more on that soon.
00:03:15
Jo
So we both watched it. The first time i was watching it with you, but separate continents, although in the same Commonwealth area.
00:03:25
Charlotte Noon
Okay.
00:03:28
Jo
I guess you're not Commonwealth.
00:03:29
Charlotte Noon
Okay. yeah
00:03:30
Jo
You're just a wealth. We're the Commonwealth.
00:03:31
Charlotte Noon
yeah Yeah, you're the Commonwealth.
00:03:33
Jo
Okay. Yeah.
00:03:34
Charlotte Noon
We're the wealth.
00:03:35
Jo
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I'm going to say
00:03:41
Jo
they're
00:03:44
Jo
How long has this movie been out? Can we spoil this? Yeah, let we can, fuck it, spoil it. If you you don't want to hear spoilers for Baby Yoda, well, it's been out for a couple weeks, right?
00:03:48
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, it's been three weeks.
00:03:52
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. it's been about three weeks
00:03:54
Jo
Yeah, almost a month. So, like, if you don't want to hear Baby Yoda spoilers, tune in next week, I guess. We're talking about space lesbians, Box and I. for No, for real, Box, him and I did a space lesbian one.
00:04:07
Charlotte Noon
Okay.
00:04:09
Jo
Yeah.
00:04:10
Charlotte Noon
Okay, sounds good.
00:04:11
Jo
Well, it was a cartoon. It actually pretty cute. I was going to get you premieres to the UK one, but they kept fucking changing the goddamn venue.
00:04:20
Charlotte Noon
Okay. Oh well.
00:04:21
Jo
Yeah, they said London and they started like naming Cardiff. I'm like, don't think Cardiff and London are near each other. I'm pretty sure Cardiff's that way. all
00:04:33
Jo
Yeah, slight train ride. Slight.
00:04:35
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, just a slight one, yeah.
00:04:36
Jo
I'm good. So are you a big Star Wars fan? I i don't think we ever had this conversation, have we?
00:04:45
Charlotte Noon
No, I don't think we have. Pretty big, yeah.
00:04:49
Jo
du Okay, so you grew up with the original series, the original trilogy?
00:04:55
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, yeah. I think one of the few films we had on... video cassette at home was A New Hope. So I watched that so many times.
00:05:07
Charlotte Noon
I think the first one I saw in the cinema was Return of the Jedi.
00:05:08
Jo
Okay. you so Okay, you saw a Jedi in the cinema. Am I older than you? I am older than you. Oh, fuck.
00:05:17
Charlotte Noon
cut Yeah, only a little bit.
00:05:20
Jo
Yeah, because I saw like, I think I saw New Hope in the cinema. Did I?
00:05:26
Charlotte Noon
No, you would have been one.
00:05:26
Jo
I know I saw Empire.
00:05:28
Charlotte Noon
You would have been one win when
00:05:29
Jo
my. i was in new york I was in utero. I was i was tall for my age. That's I would say.
00:05:36
Charlotte Noon
you've always been tall for your age. Yeah.
00:05:38
Jo
I've always been tough. so Tough my age. Why not have James Gunn's fucking card? That's so bizarro and weird. I'm not going to show the fucking address, but just picking up... I don't know how I even got that fucking card.
00:05:54
Jo
So yeah, maybe... i I know at least it was Empire. At least Empire. At least Empire. And definitely Jedi. Jedi. But we had the VHS tape.
00:06:04
Jo
My friend Mike and I watched it so much that, you know, they weren't their official. ju Wait, did you have the official VHS? Like this came in the box?
00:06:12
Charlotte Noon
Oh God, no.
00:06:14
Jo
No, right. No one had. We all had like.
00:06:16
Charlotte Noon
I have now. i have now. and i Because I bought that before i got a DVD player. But yeah, at the time, no, it was it was filmed off the TV.
00:06:29
Jo
Yeah, same. Yeah, it was like HBO or some shit. like My aunt had HBO, so she probably taped it for us.
00:06:32
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:06:34
Jo
and we just it's The tape broke. We watched it so much that actual fucking tape broke. We had we go to splice it back together using cello tape. They little clear shit.
00:06:47
Jo
Sounds a about right. Yeah.
00:06:48
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:49
Jo
Yeah, Okay, so we're both kind of like... giggy So you you watched the Baby Yoda show then? Like when it first came out?
00:06:56
Charlotte Noon
coach che Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:58
Jo
Okay. Did you watch the Book of Boba Fett?
00:07:03
Charlotte Noon
I made it most of the way through the Book of Boba Fett. I think I missed one episode.
00:07:08
Jo
Okay. That one's...
00:07:10
Charlotte Noon
I struggled with that one. I did struggle.
00:07:12
Jo
Yeah, i was like, it was mostly when Baby Yoda was in it. It was interesting. When Baby Yoda wasn't in it, was like, okay. what
00:07:20
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I kind of... the the The series after Baby Yoda went back to Mando and I wondered how the hell did he get back there? And I realized that was in the book of Boba Fett.
00:07:31
Charlotte Noon
So I went and watched those episodes, but I think I missed like, yeah, one or two episodes of Boba Fett.
00:07:33
Jo
Watch. Filled it in.
00:07:37
Charlotte Noon
I missed.
00:07:38
Jo
Okay. And this is going to go into directly to Star Wars. If you haven't guessed what we're talking about today, Star Wars, The Mandalorian, and Baby Yoda. I'm not going to. The original title was The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda?
00:07:51
Jo
Like to add to the Star Wars part is like the new updated title? Really? Oh, that's kind of fucking lazy. This was something that happened because the season got canceled, I think, right?
00:08:05
Jo
If I'm remembering correctly from Favreau, he was saying they had a season, whatever next season was, all written, all done. And they're like, cool story. Either, it wasn't even a pandemic because, was it i don't even know why.
00:08:19
Charlotte Noon
No. so No.
00:08:19
Jo
It's like just, because Baby Yoda came out during the pandemic.
00:08:22
Charlotte Noon
the The last series was, yeah.
00:08:26
Charlotte Noon
I don't know why they, I don't know where they did the film.
00:08:26
Jo
So if you guys know,
00:08:28
Jo
Yeah, drop comment. But my understanding is that that series got cut and told her, like, make a movie. And he's like, well, I have a fucking, like, eight episode series arc, but a movie? What the shit?
00:08:43
Jo
So did the best you could. When we get Star Wars, The Mandalorian, and Baby Yoda, I almost said the fucking word. I'm not going to.
00:08:51
Jo
I almost fucking said it. And I tried to learn nothing about this movie coming in because I just like just want to go up for a pure fucking enjoyment of it. Did you look at the press before watching this or no?
00:09:04
Charlotte Noon
I thought no. No, no, no.
00:09:06
Jo
Yeah, I was like, I mean, that's a spoiler shit out it, right? now Now, with that said, We're going talk about, we both saw it in the theater. So obviously we both thought it was worthy of seeing in the theater, right?
00:09:21
Jo
Because we both actually went to the fucking theaters to see this. What did you think of the continuality of the show to the movie land, the movie, not land, I guess, movie timeline, I should say.
00:09:35
Charlotte Noon
It was yeah i it's a continuation really. But it was self-contained. but I mean, i always found The Mandalorian as like
00:09:49
Charlotte Noon
lots of little stories.
00:09:51
Jo
Spaghetti Western.
00:09:52
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:09:53
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:09:53
Jo
but It was Eastwood, yeah.
00:09:54
Jo
Like the Magnificent Five and a Half TV show, yeah.
00:09:58
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:10:00
Jo
I agree with that. I think that was fine. And I think that's appropriate. And that's kind of like the good and bad about this movie. The good news is, if you're brand new to it, you don't really have to fucking watch the series. Because there's enough mapping the Star Wars world. Like, oh, that's Baby Yoda.
00:10:18
Jo
And that's like a Boba Fett.
00:10:21
Charlotte Noon
I don't think you actually have to have seen any Star Wars films to have to watch this film. If you're brand new to Star Wars, I think i think as if you are new to Star Wars, this would be a great entry to it because you don't actually need to know anything else around about Star Wars.
00:10:26
Jo
Really? Oh, you're saying you can go straight out? Huh.
00:10:38
Jo
I can kind of see that. And then, no, it's kind of, you're right. It's more of Disney. Like this has a big Disney, like dark crystal, like thumbprint on it, like a Henson.
00:10:53
Jo
I'm pretty sure that L sentence thing where like the puppets, like the, you know, the cute puppets work does most of the heavy lifting. The story's almost completely secondary. I don't know what the fucking story is. Honestly, God, are you like, what's the fucking story? Maybe that's why IMDB doesn't have goddamn storyline. just says, a baby Yoda show.
00:11:10
Jo
Cool. Give us some money.
00:11:11
Charlotte Noon
Well, it was kind of it was kind of a film in two parts. There was like the first part and the second part.
00:11:17
Jo
Ooh.
00:11:18
Charlotte Noon
And yeah. And I kind of, I sat there watching it and I thought there's definitely two two halves to it. But if I thought about it, I could probably split it up into probably four or six smaller episodes.
00:11:35
Charlotte Noon
Because there are definite points where I think, yeah, that that would be one episode. That would be another episode, you know.
00:11:35
Jo
and Right.
00:11:43
Jo
I agree, and that's my criticism of the movie. For me, and I think after watching it, I looked at the internet, and this was part of the chrism as well. People are saying it's more like a long Baby Yoda episode than an actual movie.
00:11:58
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:00
Jo
Because the the the act points are kind of fucked. And they look and they did and it and it and it and it and it kind of get the the jolting of resetting the act. like Fuck act two. Not yet, bitch. Act two. No, motherfucker. Act two.
00:12:14
Jo
Which act two? There's like three films. There really are. It's multi-layered because it looks like they're trying to cram.
00:12:17
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:12:20
Jo
And maybe this is what he did. I don't know. I didn't. I was I didn't talk to him about this, but this is just what hearing that maybe he tried to take an entire season and go fuck. These are all the plot points I want to get to.
00:12:32
Jo
Let's put in one movie. And I'm still kind of pissed.
00:12:35
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think you can tell it was probably written as as a series and they've just kind of gone, oh okay, what can we take out?
00:12:46
Charlotte Noon
And we'll take that bit out because that doesn't really squish this bit together.
00:12:52
Jo
Yeah.
00:12:53
Charlotte Noon
And that kind of gives us one story. Yeah.
00:12:57
Jo
Yeah, and that's kind of what IMDb is nagging in them about. It's like and underdeveloped story. like It feels just like the pacing is a bit fucked because it keeps doing that.
00:13:08
Jo
And there's no meaningful plot. And I was like, there's multiple plots, but it was like, oh, is this the Bonnie Hunter going to kill him? Oh, no. Is this going to get him? Oh, no. Is a Darksaber coming out? Spoiler, it fucking does not.
00:13:24
Jo
What happened to Darksaber?
00:13:24
Charlotte Noon
Nope.
00:13:25
Jo
Who the fuck knows? I don't know. Like, that would be nice. Baby Yoda training as a motherfucking Jedi. One Jedi! And no, no. Fuck that shit. Is Steve Lund doing Zeb?
00:13:33
Charlotte Noon
Oh yeah, no. if if
00:13:35
Jo
Yeah, he was.
00:13:36
Charlotte Noon
and Anyone going in expecting like a big Star Wars film, is' it's it's not it's not that because yeah there's no there's no epic battles in space.
00:13:42
Jo
No.
00:13:46
Charlotte Noon
there's no Jedi's, there's no lightsabers, there's none of that.
00:13:49
Jo
No. It's fucking like The Office. but with Baby Yoda. And then i was like, oh this happened. Okay, and then this happened. It's like the wrong way to tell a story. This happened and this happens. And this and not because, like Trey Parker say, like, this happens because this happens, this has happen.
00:14:06
Jo
This is more like this happened, then this happened, then this happened. And then we got like, Brendan Wayne is getting credit, thank fuck, as a Mandalorian stoop performer.
00:14:17
Jo
Versus Pedro Pascal used to have all the credit. like, really? I don't think he's like... I always wonder about that. like Once the hemlet's on, is that actually Pedro Pascal doing all the work? The answer is no.
00:14:26
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, he was he was actually only for a very short period of time.
00:14:30
Jo
Yeah, he does like the voice work in the fucking booth. And they unmasked the Mandalorian. And at this point, no one gave a fuck. Like, oh my god, we unmasked him.
00:14:42
Jo
Yeah, we saw that couple episodes ago. so We're not even sure why he puts the helmet at this point. but the The magic hand. It was a clip show of the regular series.
00:14:55
Jo
Is that accurate? like You have Yoda, baby Yoda, healing with the magic fucking hand and soothing and baby carriage. and
00:15:02
Charlotte Noon
yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that that was...
00:15:04
Jo
It's a highlight reel.
00:15:06
Charlotte Noon
It was still fun to see in the cinema and and it was fun to see sort of the characters I'd seen from like Rebels in it and...
00:15:18
Jo
okay you watch rebels which
00:15:21
Charlotte Noon
I've watched Rebels. I've watched Clone Wars. In fact, there's probably a bit like...
00:15:25
Jo
you watch clone the fucking cartoon the cartoons there's like 800 episodes how the fuck did you watch that twice like honest honestly god like
00:15:26
Charlotte Noon
I've watched the all of the... I've watched all of Clone Wars twice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:37
Charlotte Noon
It's what i
00:15:39
Jo
I couldn't watch it once. I skipped around like fuck this. I don't I was fucking how many seasons 20.
00:15:46
Jo
When the fuck.
00:15:46
Charlotte Noon
Seven.
00:15:48
Charlotte Noon
Seven.
00:15:49
Jo
Oh just seven and how many episodes for the cartoon like.
00:15:53
Charlotte Noon
Is it seven or nine? it's seven.
00:15:56
Jo
as This is burn notice like there's
00:15:57
Charlotte Noon
It's seven. Well, there's there's there's a two-part mini thing to start it off. as well as the pre-Clone War thing.
00:16:07
Jo
Yeah, I mean, i never liked the animation style.
00:16:09
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I've watched those as well.
00:16:12
Jo
That's why I didn't watch it when it first came out. Because I had nothing else to do. was I was actually stuck in Quebec somewhere, I'm guessing. So, okay, this is a story about people shoehorning in and it's very apparent where they wanted people from the original series who just weren't there anymore. So they had to rewrite it. Like Sigourney Weaver plays Colonel Ward.
00:16:40
Jo
That was 100% not the original character in that fucking movie. Like that was like, oh shit, he died?
00:16:51
Jo
Damn it. Okay, let me rewrite his part for Colonel Ward. Or sorry, yeah, almost said Colonel Weaver. So we have people who physically died in the TV show, might like in real life, right?
00:17:06
Charlotte Noon
Yes.
00:17:07
Jo
So they have to recast without recasting. Is that accurate? I mean, is that the vibe you got too?
00:17:12
Charlotte Noon
Yes. Yes. Yes, but I didn't care.
00:17:22
Charlotte Noon
I didn't care because I just enjoyed it. It was Star Wars and there were explosions. and
00:17:28
Jo
there was explained Who cares about Carl Rothers? Well, we do. He's a nice dude, by the way.
00:17:32
Charlotte Noon
I mean, I do care, but...
00:17:34
Jo
Yeah. But yeah, it's like...
00:17:35
Charlotte Noon
For the film, i yeah, I don't care.
00:17:38
Jo
You didn't care. Okay. And then so that was one. So that's actually Carl Weathers. you i'm guessing there was one for one for Carl Weathers' role. And then what was the other? What was what was what was his his right hand?
00:17:50
Jo
Not Rod of the Hut. what was What was the guy that was like the basically the fucking MacGuffin? By the way, yeah. This entire fucking episode, not this episode of Screaming Demons, but this entire movie is just Baby Yoda and MacGuffin. This one giant goddamn MacGuffin that no one gave a shit about.
00:18:07
Jo
We have to find this super secret thing or something. But we have to like rescue the Hutts because sure.
00:18:15
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, but i I wanted to find out what had happened to Rota because I remember him from the Clone Wars.
00:18:15
Jo
And then like.
00:18:23
Jo
Oh shit, that's actually a real character.
00:18:23
Charlotte Noon
And I was like, yeah. Yeah, in the first, before they did like the full series of the Clone Wars, there's a two-parter where Ahsoka is introduced as Anakin's padawan and their mission is to save Rota the Hutt.
00:18:42
Charlotte Noon
as a tiny little slug creature thingy
00:18:46
Jo
Oh, wow. So he's always in trouble or needs help. He is the fucking MacGuffin at this point. Like he's like, I need to save him.
00:18:55
Charlotte Noon
yeah yeah yeah he this is uh no no he's i mean you know the first time we see him in the in the clone wars two-parter is uh he's big enough to fit in a backpack
00:18:55
Jo
I need to save him again. but that boy did not need save him this time. Well, he kind of did.
00:19:10
Charlotte Noon
So he's tiny, tiny. So he's grown a lot since then.
00:19:15
Jo
Did he appear in the Book of Boba Fett?
00:19:20
Charlotte Noon
No, the twins did.
00:19:22
Charlotte Noon
But he didn't.
00:19:22
Jo
The twins, yeah.
00:19:23
Jo
I remember the twins from that. But then I'm like, my first, because I did not, obviously, i did not watch that part of the the co Clone Wars 8,000 episode cartoon.
00:19:34
Jo
I must missed that part. where I was like, I had, I thought i just like made them up for this movie. I'm like, how would just make this motherfucker up? Cause we've seen the twins like with Boba Fett. So like how is this new, new, new hut now that really could be heir apparent, but you know, apparently no one mentioned for fucking series.
00:19:54
Jo
i was like, no, why mention this shit? Or maybe it does appear in Boba Fett. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention. i' was like, all I remember from Boba Fett, sand people, baby Yoda,
00:20:06
Jo
And a completely underdeveloped like cyborg people. That's it.
00:20:11
Charlotte Noon
yes
00:20:12
Jo
I have no idea what happened.
00:20:12
Charlotte Noon
see for for me See for me, the film, it had Rota and I knew where Rota came from. It had Embo. That comes from Clone Wars as well.
00:20:21
Charlotte Noon
So the he was the bounty hunter.
00:20:22
Jo
Where the fuck's Embo?
00:20:26
Charlotte Noon
The bounty hunter that went... No, Zeb is the Lassat.
00:20:26
Jo
Wait, Embo or Zeb?
00:20:32
Charlotte Noon
he's He's the one that was flying Mando around.
00:20:36
Jo
Oh, Zeb's flying? Okay, ho, ho, ho, ho.
00:20:38
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:20:40
Jo
As I get, like, fucking schooled on...
00:20:41
Charlotte Noon
Zebra Aurelius is from Rebels and he was he's the sap that was flying and Mando around.
00:20:52
Jo
Okay, that for me was the... The... was was there's The shock trooper... That was Gina's character before she apparently tweeted two things in the wrong direction for Disney and got canceled.
00:21:08
Jo
Her entire spinoff show got canceled and her character got canceled.
00:21:09
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:21:12
Jo
For me, that was just replacement for her character. It's just like, I didn't actually know Zeb was then a real character. For me, I'm like, oh, they just replaced this motherfucker because, you know, she got canceled.
00:21:24
Jo
And then she lost me fucking money in a goddamn fight. But that's just besides me. I'm not taking that shit personal.
00:21:30
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:21:30
Jo
You couldn't beat Ronda Rousey, really?
00:21:31
Charlotte Noon
Don't be bitter about Jay. Don't be bitter. and
00:21:33
Jo
Fuck, man.
00:21:34
Charlotte Noon
No, he's he's actually a character from Rebels.
00:21:36
Jo
Love you.
00:21:36
Charlotte Noon
He's, yeah.
00:21:37
Jo
Okay. is Is he still... getting I know Steve Blum is doing the voice for in the movie. So I'm guessing the same voice. like Do you think the voice change?
00:21:50
Charlotte Noon
I think the voice changed. I don't think it's the same voice. can't remember. No, I don't think it's the same voice.
00:21:57
Jo
Yeah, I see. Now I'm looking up at... I don't want to look up Rebels. It might be the same voice or maybe Steve. So you have, okay, all these things that I didn't understand because again, i didn't like the style.
00:22:14
Jo
right Rebels is a tv as a TV fucking show.
00:22:19
Charlotte Noon
yeah it's an animated series.
00:22:20
Jo
I'm like making all these nerds punch their fucking cameras right now, but or not the camera, the screen.
00:22:24
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, it's an animated series. It's where Hera Syndulla comes from. It's where...
00:22:29
Jo
Who?
00:22:29
Charlotte Noon
it it Oh, God, you obviously didn't see us so so the Ahsoka series, did you?
00:22:36
Jo
I saw Ahsoka, but just figured it was like a stand-alone.
00:22:40
Charlotte Noon
No, no, that's Ezra Bridger that they went to wherever it was to save.
00:22:48
Jo
I'm like, uh-huh.
00:22:49
Charlotte Noon
yeah and
00:22:52
Jo
Let me push up your glasses for you.
00:22:58
Jo
Is this the show where Charlotte never gets laid again?
00:22:58
Charlotte Noon
yeah
00:23:02
Jo
Well, you gotta see. Actually, it's from this character and in this spinoff TV show for this fucking cartoon that I paid enough of, no, I'm kidding. obviously No, this is obviously.
00:23:15
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, a lot of the characters from the Ahsoka series came from the Rebels series. It's kind of a follow on to that animated series.
00:23:24
Jo
okay So, which one is a Bad Batch? I watched that. cause only has like eight fucking episodes per season. I can watch that.
00:23:34
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, no, the Bad Batch is fantastic. Love that.
00:23:37
Charlotte Noon
Seen that four times.
00:23:37
Jo
No, it really Yeah, it kind of like stuck on me a bit.
00:23:42
Jo
So it goes Clone Wars. No, it goes Rebels, Clone Wars. No, Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch.
00:23:46
Charlotte Noon
like it goes clone wars bad batch rebels
00:23:52
Jo
What the fuck's the Rebels done? Am I just blanking this out? Jesus. It's like the time I told Gene, I was like, hey, man, I always want to go to corners. Like, you did. like, I did?
00:24:04
Jo
Okay, let me see. Star Wars Rebels TV show. Yeah, I've got nothing. That was an actual fucking show? i have no idea.
00:24:11
Charlotte Noon
yeah
00:24:14
Jo
Katie Stackhoff's in it? How the fuck? Oh, because she's playing... She's playing one of the the Mandalorians. I almost said the Boba Fetts.
00:24:22
Charlotte Noon
Mm-hmm.
00:24:25
Jo
Why did Okay. there 2004 and 2018? Oh. Yeah, oh yeah I wouldn't have watched that then. I guess I never really caught up to it then.
00:24:38
Jo
Okay. Is it worth watching to fill in the...
00:24:43
Jo
Gaffs apparently goes from episode three to episode four for Star Wars universe.
00:24:50
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, yeah, it does. It kind of fits in that slot and it's is kind of a
00:24:57
Charlotte Noon
It's kind of one rebel cell follows them through where they have an ex-Jedi on board.
00:25:08
Jo
With the green saver i'm guessing.
00:25:10
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Kanan Jarrus.
00:25:13
Jo
Okay. and Do we see him one in Asuka?
00:25:18
Charlotte Noon
Kanan Jarrus, I'm going to spoil it for you now, he he dies before the end of the Rebel series.
00:25:24
Jo
damn it. He's spoiled. have to watch it no more.
00:25:25
Charlotte Noon
Saving them. Yeah, sorry.
00:25:26
Jo
Thank God. No, that's okay. Trust me.
00:25:30
Charlotte Noon
He dies. Yeah.
00:25:32
Jo
Okay. So that guy dies... And then there's a bunch of shit that happens. And then Clone Wars, the TV show sort of happens before that, I guess, because something something jazz hands.
00:25:51
Jo
And then Bad Batch happens concurrent to Clone Wars.
00:25:51
Charlotte Noon
and No.
00:25:56
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, Clone Wars is set before Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader.
00:26:03
Jo
Right. Okay.
00:26:04
Charlotte Noon
That's from...
00:26:04
Jo
And there's like seven fucking series for Clone Wars with how many episodes?
00:26:07
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:11
Jo
Oh, fuck me. Like anywhere between 12 and a lot. Like one one has 20 fucking episodes. There's no way I'm watching this shit.
00:26:21
Charlotte Noon
yeah yeah but they're only like 25 minutes long it's only 25 minutes long
00:26:22
Jo
22 episodes? Fuck you guys. There's no fucking way I'm watching this. How much?
00:26:31
Jo
Oh, fuck me. Although... Okay. Who's the dude with the hat and the glasses? He's the bounty hunter. We've seen him a bit in fucking Boba Fett.
00:26:46
Charlotte Noon
oh that's No, that's that's not that. Oh, shit i had his name on the tip of my tongue just then.
00:26:46
Jo
I thought he's not Zeb, apparently.
00:26:53
Jo
That's all shit. I know that guy.
00:26:56
Jo
All shit guy.
00:26:59
Charlotte Noon
I can't remember his name.
00:27:01
Jo
See, he's contagious now. My memory loss is fucking contagious.
00:27:03
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, i i I know who you mean.
00:27:06
Jo
Good for me.
00:27:07
Charlotte Noon
i just can't remember his name.
00:27:09
Jo
Welcome to the show where we're supposed to discuss Mandalorian and Baby Yoda that we both said you don't need to watch most of Star Wars, but apparently you do. My life just shamed.
00:27:20
Charlotte Noon
Okay.
00:27:20
Jo
Because i didn't know any of these fucking characters, which just means it was a worse experience for it. Because i like, oh, for me, there's a replacement. Like, oh, that's Gina's fucking character being replaced by some fucking dude. And that's fucking Carvel's character replaced by some woman.
00:27:34
Jo
Not someone, but, you know, a Scroding Weaver. But... Okay, so that actually does go in to some decision making. Got it. Now, my question to you, you stand by your,
00:27:54
Jo
not so much your assumption, but do you stand by your statement that people don't have to watch to dress the rest of Star Wars?
00:28:02
Charlotte Noon
Yes, I do. i do. You're a Star Wars.
00:28:04
Jo
Yeah. No, I agree. i agree. i agree.
00:28:07
Charlotte Noon
You're into Star Wars. You're obviously not quite as into it as I am because I'm...
00:28:13
Charlotte Noon
i'm
00:28:13
Jo
Apparently I got laid in in fucking 2000s.
00:28:16
Jo
Sorry.
00:28:17
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:28:18
Jo
my and I know it does a little...
00:28:18
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, well, I didn't, so...
00:28:20
Jo
Really? Oh my God. was all sorry. Okay. I did look at this up. Steve Lund also did Zeb during the Rebels. So it was the same voice.
00:28:30
Charlotte Noon
Right, okay.
00:28:30
Jo
But yeah.
00:28:31
Charlotte Noon
Same voice.
00:28:32
Charlotte Noon
Okay, okay.
00:28:32
Jo
right. And then, so I think that's maybe accurate.
00:28:36
Jo
You know what? I'll give it to you. I'll give to I think that's accurate because I think it's still enjoyable. I don't know. Apparently, you will have more color to enjoy than I did because I just saw the like the straight movie as a movie. I knew Baby Yoda. I knew The Mandalorian.
00:28:52
Jo
And that's the end of the fucking list.
00:28:54
Charlotte Noon
Yes, for for you, you were what you were watching it you were watching it as as just kind of as what it was.
00:28:55
Jo
And whatever Paul
00:29:00
Charlotte Noon
I was watching it and going, oh, God, I recognise that. and
00:29:05
Jo
the the bigger part of this.
00:29:05
Charlotte Noon
But you don't actually need that.
00:29:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:29:07
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, you don't need that to to enjoy it because there's enough there for for you to enjoy it without going, oh, my God, that goes back to that episode or that goes back to...
00:29:19
Jo
Yeah.
00:29:20
Jo
Yeah, and I got confused with Martin Scorsese. I got him confused with the dude who did Avatar. I'm like, really? He's doing a fucking Star Wars film, but he hates Marvel? What the shit? So that's my fault.
00:29:32
Jo
I was like, alas for a second in my mind, Cameron versus Scorsese. And I can also Scorsese is a significantly better fucking producer of film. That should not have been to my fucking confusion.
00:29:43
Jo
But it was. So we were watching this. It's a story about the Mandalorian collecting bounties, then needing to get information for MacGuffin land.
00:29:57
Jo
And the only way to get the information is he has to do the huts a favor. And that favor is to apparently go find MacGuffin number two, rod of the hut, which turns out to be a bulky version of he's basically the,
00:30:12
Jo
It's like the Hulk. it's It's basically fucking the the Thor movie with the Hulk in it.
00:30:19
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:21
Jo
Like the Hulk's just picking kicking over of his ass in an arena. Well loved.
00:30:24
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:30:25
Jo
Chilling the fuck out. And then the Mandalorian comes in as Thor. Yeah.
00:30:30
Charlotte Noon
i mean I mean, I love the arena scene because, you know, you've got all the creatures from from the original Star Wars board game in that.
00:30:31
Jo
Jesus, man.
00:30:40
Jo
I have that original Star Wars board game, so I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah.
00:30:45
Charlotte Noon
on On the Millennium Falcon, there's the circular board game.
00:30:46
Jo
Who's the geek now?
00:30:49
Charlotte Noon
All of those animals that were in the arena were on that.
00:30:50
Jo
Oh. Oh, thought meant the actual board game.
00:30:54
Charlotte Noon
No, no, no, no, no. On the Millennium...
00:30:55
Jo
Like the 1979.
00:30:57
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, you know, A New Hope,
00:30:59
Jo
oh that the little holographic chess one.
00:31:01
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:02
Charlotte Noon
the The arena has the has the same grid on it underneath. And all of the animals, all of the creatures that come in are the animals off that board.
00:31:02
Jo
Okay.
00:31:13
Jo
Did you know that or did you see that somewhere?
00:31:18
Charlotte Noon
i like it was in the I saw it in the movie. I sat there and went...
00:31:21
Jo
No, no, no, but did you know that fact or did you see that somewhere? Do you know what Did you just like, you picked it up somewhere?
00:31:26
Charlotte Noon
I did actually pick that up somewhere. I...
00:31:30
Charlotte Noon
i i I heard someone say it and then I looked at the second time ive I watched it. I thought, oh, it's actually, they didn't actually say about this set up of the board. They said about the creatures.
00:31:30
Jo
Okay.
00:31:42
Charlotte Noon
I can't remember. It was a YouTube blogger. I can't remember which one.
00:31:47
Jo
Wait, you watch YouTube shows, but not mine?
00:31:49
Charlotte Noon
I watch yours.
00:31:51
Jo
Oh, do you? I mean, is this the heart?
00:31:52
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:31:55
Jo
i think I don't know. That's just, that's that's me looking through a spyglass now.
00:31:56
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, that as that's, that's, I watch yours, and and but you don't do a lot of you you don't do a lot of Star Wars ones.
00:32:00
Jo
Spyglass.
00:32:05
Charlotte Noon
i do watch a lot of Star Wars
00:32:06
Jo
I could. Well, I could. You know what? I actually started. Okay. you were When you were here, you saw the Star Wars pinball game, right?
00:32:20
Jo
Yeah. There's also a Star Wars Tales from the Outer Rim or whatever it is that I have a playthrough done, taped, that I might release that. So I do Star Wars. Me, me, me. me me It's just, i so I was trying not to swear, so I thought the game was for kids.
00:32:33
Charlotte Noon
Okay.
00:32:37
Jo
And then they're the other part, the game just glitches. They fuck. So I start, like, you know, 12 attempts to kill a goddamn lightsaber. So, yeah, so they go to the hut.
00:32:49
Jo
He feeds baby Yoda. They bond because Baby Yoda eats something. And then Mando gets trapped.
00:33:03
Jo
Apparently it's those helmets are just for looks. you You think there would be like some sort of like, oh my God, smoke. I'll just breathe through my ventilator. Oh, there's no ventilator. It's just a goddamn helmet. Okay.
00:33:12
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, that's just a helmet.
00:33:15
Jo
Yeah. Apparently for Mandalorian, he's very easy to capture. He gets captured 18 times in this film.
00:33:22
Charlotte Noon
I didn't count how many times he got was captured. but
00:33:25
Charlotte Noon
i did I did kind of wonder how he managed not to get crushed because he seemed end up being...
00:33:25
Jo
Well, he's basically the MacGuffin itself.
00:33:36
Charlotte Noon
underneath some heavy objects like every other scene.
00:33:40
Jo
Yeah. No, it's true. I mean, though that must be strong-ass fucking thing. and it's like I mean, it got to the point where it's almost like you're watching Leslie Nielsen. ast a screw I just script my own joke. I was to do Taken joke where he basically roofies himself.
00:33:56
Jo
like At this point, Mandalorian is just roofing himself. Like, oh my god, I got captured again. Help me, help me. right right but So he gets captured. Spoiler alert. They escape.
00:34:08
Jo
And then they go off. And then he gets captured again. Because of course he does. And then Baby Yoda has to help him out with the help of like the little...
00:34:19
Jo
but They're from Solo, right? was the The little dudes from Solo? Or is that from Rogue One? They're from Solo. I know they're from the fucking video game.
00:34:28
Charlotte Noon
were in Mandalorian. They were in one of the series Mandalorian.
00:34:33
Jo
Were they really?
00:34:35
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, because that that's the little guys that went, my baby!
00:34:37
Jo
Oh. well How did they go?
00:34:43
Jo
Do it again. How did they go?
00:34:44
Charlotte Noon
me
00:34:45
Jo
Oh, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I love it.
00:34:51
Jo
There you go. oh It is true. It is true. it is true. And then they almost die. Like one gets captured and then like...
00:35:02
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, one gets captured and half eaten by dog thing.
00:35:06
Jo
And it's kind of weird because, yeah. And...
00:35:10
Charlotte Noon
thing
00:35:12
Jo
Yeah, and the random ass dog thing. And again, for a guy who's like Supreme Bonnie Hunter of the fucking universe... He gets captured a, like again, I'm just putting it out there. He gets captured a fucking lot, which which is why I think you're talking about the different arcs.
00:35:29
Jo
It almost seemed like different movies entirely. as This movie ends here and this movie ends there.
00:35:34
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:35:34
Jo
Yeah, I think that's the reason why. Because every time he gets captured, it's a new fucking story. Like, story's done. Story starts. Capture. Dun-dun. Dun-dun. Dun-dun.
00:35:44
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:48
Jo
Which, you know, I mean, there's better it's better than most Star Wars movies that came out, you know? Now, I will say it it was interesting to see how they ended it.
00:36:08
Jo
Because he you know he's like, oh, they always save the day. the Rebels come in. Whatever it's going to be, who cares? that It blows up. I don't remember how it fucking ends. you You do it right? You remember how it ends?
00:36:20
Jo
Like, happily. They didn't like, Baby Yoda doesn't die.
00:36:25
Charlotte Noon
they blew up the huts and they flew back to base and yeah yeah
00:36:31
Jo
Yeah. And the and then the net change was zero. And that was that's probably but one of the frustrating things about the movie. The net change between the start of the movie and the end of the movie for both main characters is zero.
00:36:47
Jo
Mandalorian does not grow as a character whatsoever. Baby Yoda does not grow as a character whatsoever either. Other like, oh, i have to save Mando.
00:37:01
Jo
you know Maybe get some confidence, but he's always just he's the same baby Yoda. that Is that fair or no?
00:37:10
Charlotte Noon
I think maybe Yoda had a certain amount of growth. Yeah.
00:37:16
Jo
He's actually like you know two feet and a quarter now. He grew that much.
00:37:20
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I think he sees group.
00:37:23
Jo
Which is like six inches. Yeah, he grew Okay, so he gets some of his confidence back? Because he had his confidence shattered when Anakin kills everyone in front of him.
00:37:35
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I mean, you know, he's he' not confident enough to start talking yet, but...
00:37:40
Jo
And that's other things. like do you think he doesn't talk because he the trauma?
00:37:43
Charlotte Noon
I
00:37:45
Jo
Or is he just too young?
00:37:49
Charlotte Noon
don't know. I kind of felt like at the end of the last Mandalorian series, he was starting to talk and he's regressed a bit in this film.
00:38:01
Jo
Yeah, well, you know also regressing a bit? The fucking Darksaber, because it didn't show up ever. Fucking ever. At all. And I don't really care about John Carroll's character that much. I think he was an interesting character. I think he played it really, really well, and like the villain, and the the heavy, and really needed.
00:38:27
Jo
But the transfer the Darksaber, because like you know, Mando's trying it out, he just can't fucking, it doesn't respond to him. It's like the one in Harry Potter's never really Voldemort's because it was never really Snape's.
00:38:41
Jo
The Darksaber, I don't think, was ever Mando's. I know, I'm i'm going i'm making some fucking connections here. I don't think the Darksaber was ever Mando's because it's Baby Yoda's. It's obviously fucking Baby Yoda's. He's obviously the one that brings the Force with the Mandalorians together. i mean, that's like no shit.
00:38:54
Jo
Like, I can't believe that everyone in that universe is so fucking dumb. They don't see that. And yet, this movie is nothing with it. Zero. It was Ojo.
00:39:02
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, baby Yoda's got to grow about two foot before he can actually handle the dark saber. So...
00:39:10
Jo
I might see some fucking Yoda. All right. So yeah, it ends, but okay, you say Baby Yoda grows. I'll give you, begrudgingly give you, there is some growth, but I think you are correct when you said there was regression before the movie starts.
00:39:29
Jo
Like Baby Yoda regresses before the movie even fucking starts. So he basically grows back to not even before the end of the Mandalorian seasons. To before before that. So he doesn't he doesn't even like... His growth doesn't even go through like... His natural progression of the series.
00:39:45
Jo
It stops short of that still.
00:39:49
Charlotte Noon
yeah i yeah yeah it does i i guess it does yeah
00:39:50
Jo
Is it...
00:39:55
Jo
Yeah, okay. Now, with all that... There are obvious... For me, there's... Obvious flaws with this fucking movie. Obvious. But, that said...
00:40:08
Jo
Where would you rank this? Now, you can't fucking use the original trilogy because obviously it's going to be one, two, three. You know, it's like Empire, Jedi, and New Hope or whatever it's looking to be.
00:40:20
Jo
Empire is usually one and then New Hope and Jedi swirl around for two and three. Where would you rank this in the newer Star Wars movies? So the, not including the prequels, but post-prequels, so that the three afterwards.
00:40:37
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, i can't I can't say that because despite having seen so much Star Wars, I've only ever seen episode seven of the new ones.
00:40:51
Charlotte Noon
I haven't seen eight and nine because I just didn't get to the cinema for them and I haven't got around to watching them yet.
00:40:51
Jo
Huh.
00:40:54
Jo
Huh.
00:40:59
Jo
Oh. Wow. Arguably, Seven was the best of that trilogy. The J.J. Abrams one. Arguably.
00:41:11
Jo
I'm not saying it was perfect, but arguably it was the best. like the The last one was just like, what the actual fuck? And then the middle one was also like, you can tell the different writers and directors took over each of the fucking movies because, and then talk to each other or apparently see the fucking movie before them because they're so disjointed. was what the fuck is this? Am I like, I just fucking take the wrong with fucking gummy or.
00:41:39
Jo
So you didn't, you didn't miss much, but you you saw Solo. Okay.
00:41:44
Charlotte Noon
Still solo, yeah.
00:41:46
Jo
You saw Rogue One.
00:41:48
Charlotte Noon
I've seen solo. Rogue One, yeah.
00:41:50
Jo
Which is weird because, not that you saw, but I liked Rogue One more than I thought it was so i was like, why are they making a movie? We all know the ending. We know they all fucking die. We know they get the Darth Vader. There's nothing that's going spoilers.
00:42:05
Jo
We've seen this like 20
00:42:08
Jo
So why would I care about any of these characters, but you care about them because of the fucking acting. Like, oh, this is actually pretty good. And then, you know, it becomes movie. Including the TV shows. How about that? You can include the TV shows of Ahsoka and then...
00:42:21
Jo
The one that no one really, Old Republic one that was something about two twins or two, i don't know, who fucking cares. About the dark mothers or what I forgot their fucking names. When you play the video game, it's actually a lot cooler.
00:42:39
Jo
Including that show and including Effect.
00:42:45
Jo
But and obviously not including Mind the Learning. What would you rank it in that area? Not including the cartoon because, again.
00:42:55
Charlotte Noon
Definitely above Book of Boba Fett.
00:43:00
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, above above the Acolyte.
00:43:03
Jo
Oh, Acolyte. That was the fucking name I couldn't... thought was old Republic. That's how much I paid attention. Above Asuka? Would it be Above Asuka?
00:43:14
Charlotte Noon
Possibly on a level with Ahsoka.
00:43:16
Jo
so And then Above Solo?
00:43:20
Charlotte Noon
No, I think probably above, just above Ahsoka and on a level with Solo, but below Rogue One.
00:43:27
Jo
Oh, you're the only person in the world that likes Solo. I mean, i thought it was cute too But it would be below... what
00:43:37
Charlotte Noon
Below Rogue One.
00:43:38
Jo
was that? Below Rogue One, below the the TV show from Rogue One as well, right?
00:43:44
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Mm-mm. Andor.
00:43:47
Jo
Oh.
00:43:48
Charlotte Noon
No, Andor.
00:43:49
Jo
Which is a...
00:43:50
Charlotte Noon
Andor is...
00:43:51
Jo
And or what? And or what? Is it above? You said Andor. I don't know the fucking...
00:44:01
Charlotte Noon
I think probably the series Andor is above, probably my favourite one.
00:44:07
Jo
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's correct. No, I agree. When say that's correct, I agree with that. I think Andor was probably the best thing they put out besides Baby Yoda.
00:44:15
Charlotte Noon
yeah that that is outstanding
00:44:16
Jo
And Baby Yoda only works because Baby Yoda. Yeah, the the writing is outstanding. The acting is outstanding. It's like you give a shit about the characters. Again, even though you know they're all going fucking die.
00:44:27
Jo
You've seen the fucking movie, so you know their fate.
00:44:28
Charlotte Noon
yeah
00:44:31
Jo
And just by seeing the movie, it's almost like the that version the prequels handled a lot better than the actual movie prequels, where somehow Anakin Skywalker is like two years old, and then Padme wants to fuck him.
00:44:47
Jo
It's like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, that's kind of creepy, right? Like, what is Fucking Tatooine or FC9? Jesus Christ, dude. Oh, too soon? Sorry, Tatooine.
00:44:56
Charlotte Noon
Okay.
00:44:56
Jo
I didn't mean that. So yeah, you see you see all this. Okay, so not bad. How would you rate the like the special? i didn't know this, but Phil Tippett did the Mandalorian fights with a the the large robot ones.
00:45:09
Jo
And Phil Tippett did Mad God. He also did like a bunch of fucking award-winning movies for special effects back when the original Star Wars comes out. So it's nice to see him back in this.
00:45:22
Jo
Versus they could have CGI'd that shit and they did not. They stopped motioned it. So what would you rank the like the effects, the overall acting? I mean, there's nothing plastic about it, right? It's not.
00:45:35
Charlotte Noon
I like the fact that they actually used, like, it's not CGI.
00:45:42
Jo
Yeah.
00:45:42
Charlotte Noon
They're not CGI. Yeah. I like the fact that there are actual puppets.
00:45:47
Jo
Yeah, I agree.
00:45:47
Charlotte Noon
But that goes back to my...
00:45:49
Jo
I agree. Because I think they they've... Especially for something like this, they could have CGI'd the entire fucking thing.
00:45:56
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, they could have done.
00:45:57
Jo
As was normal. And it would have been worse movie for it, I think. I think that it's far, far a worse movie if they just CGI'd everything. So it's like it's great to see the stop motion effects because that's what... like We grew up with that.
00:46:12
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, I mean,
00:46:13
Jo
And it's superior. like I'd rather see strings. then the fucking but than the fucking overly glossed CGI.
00:46:18
Charlotte Noon
God, yes.
00:46:23
Jo
Your brain...
00:46:23
Charlotte Noon
I think CGI has its place, but this one needed kind of the, the, the actual physical weight of something, you know, not, not,
00:46:38
Charlotte Noon
not a tennis ball on a stick acting that you sometimes get with with cgi
00:46:49
Jo
Tennis ball on a stick? That was the name of my sex tape. Wait, what? Sorry.
00:46:54
Charlotte Noon
yeah i know
00:46:56
Jo
Tennis ball on a stick? don't know. Well, agree. And the sound is nice. It's like, it's a great, God, this is the thing. It's a great, almost homage to the actual series.
00:47:13
Jo
Because all the highlights, it's a highlight show of the series. Like all the small little things that make the series a series pop up in this.
00:47:17
Charlotte Noon
Yes, it is.
00:47:21
Jo
And I think it's like a one big, yeah, i I agree with you. You don't have to know anything about Star Wars. It still has like the Baby Yoda show. You know, you still get interested in the movie itself because it's, and that's what the shitty part is. It's ridiculously well-made.
00:47:38
Jo
Completely schizophrenic on what fucking movie it wants to be. Well-made. What the fuck was the plot? Well made. Don't look at the writing. don't look at the writing. don't look at the writing. But really well made.
00:47:50
Jo
And that's a frustration because it could be better. I think that's frustrating. It could have been better. And that's the thing that's bad.
00:47:56
Charlotte Noon
yeah
00:47:57
Jo
It just could have been better. And I think that's part of my frustration.
00:48:02
Charlotte Noon
yeah it could have been but personally i don't care because it's star wars
00:48:13
Jo
Fine. Fine. And i think I think it made back its money or got pretty pretty fucking close to it. It's going to make it back once it hits streaming and shit like that. Because it it did like 165 budget and it grossed worldwide 300 mil.
00:48:24
Charlotte Noon
Oh, gotcha.
00:48:30
Jo
And so that's like if you doubled it for the... Although I don't know how much PR or how much actual advertisement that Disney really spent on this, but... it's It's usually double as like, you know, 320 would be the nut to make back in this one.
00:48:46
Jo
Two hours and 12 minutes. Was the timing okay? Or did it drag?
00:48:54
Charlotte Noon
I didn't notice it was two hours and 12 minutes. I didn't sit there and go, oh God, this is really dragging.
00:48:59
Jo
Okay.
00:49:02
Jo
Yeah, it's not the fucking Hobbit movie. You know, for me, I noticed like the the hop the the last Lord of the Rings movie was like, holy shit, this is a fucking long ass movie. You're right. I was surprised when I saw the runtime was 2.12.
00:49:16
Jo
Because when I was seeing it in a theater, it feels like 90 minutes. It doesn't even feel like a fucking two hour movie.
00:49:21
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't feel as long as it is. I mean, there was kind of a, yeah, and that there is kind of like a bit that it it does lull and slow down for a bit, but it it didn't kind of make me think, oh, God, this is so boring.
00:49:25
Jo
Yeah, it mean maybe that's because the movie keeps restarting.
00:49:40
Charlotte Noon
When's the next explosion going to be?
00:49:42
Jo
Right. No, and that's again, part of the strength of the movie is the acting, and the the directing, the the cuts, the the sound, the vision, like Phil Tippett's and all that shit like that.
00:49:54
Jo
And part of the weakness is, oddly part of the weakness contributes to it being a quicker 212.
00:50:03
Jo
Then if it was like really well written and had this great storyline, you would feel the 212. Where this is kind of like staccato. It chops a bit. It's like, okay.
00:50:13
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, it's because it's like a couple of different stories that just kind of follow on from each other.
00:50:13
Jo
Like.
00:50:19
Charlotte Noon
it doesn't feel It doesn't feel like it's it's kind of like that endless and you're thinking, oh, we're going through the same thing again.
00:50:20
Jo
Right.
00:50:30
Charlotte Noon
it just kind of...
00:50:31
Jo
Yeah, and I see that.
00:50:31
Charlotte Noon
it
00:50:34
Jo
I can see that. And then it's it's going to be... i will kind of sum it up this way. Again, the storyline from IMDb. Once a lone Bonnie Hunter, Mandalorian... What's his name?
00:50:48
Charlotte Noon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:48
Jo
That's you. the Sure. And as apprentice baby Yoda embark on exciting new Star Wars adventure. That's generic as fuck because the plot's generic as fuck. the The storyline actually matches the plot.
00:51:05
Charlotte Noon
yeah
00:51:05
Jo
And I think that's part of the better issue.
00:51:07
Jo
It wasn't like, you know, this is what's happening, motherfuckers. But here we go. We don't rate movies. i mean, obviously, we both watched it. You watched it a thousand times, I guess, since even taping the show.
00:51:20
Jo
By the time we tape the show and the show gets released in about, you know, of two hours, Charlotte's already watched it five more times.
00:51:29
Charlotte Noon
Oh, I'll be watching it while we're sitting here.
00:51:30
Jo
It's weird. Yeah, that's why he's like, and this guy is this voice. I'm like, how did she fucking know? it was like, this is on a TV show right there? I'm like, okay. And the weird thing, she's got it on VHS.
00:51:42
Jo
Or as she says, videocassette. You British motherfucker. but Number, is that what does that mean in Britain?
00:51:53
Jo
Same thing as that means in Americas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah But I will... I will definitely, I I've got Disney Plus, so I definitely going watch this again.
00:52:05
Jo
it costs me nothing to watch this again once it goes streaming.
00:52:07
Charlotte Noon
Oh, I'll be watching it once it goes streaming.
00:52:09
Jo
You know, i'll yeah, and I'll even, I'll pay attention more to like the other parts of it. i was just kind of like glancing over because I didn't know the fucking characters apparently. Like, oh, okay, this makes more sense. I'm still not going to watch the cartoon shows to really tell me who they are.
00:52:25
Jo
I'll ask my chat bot. Hey, chat, like, who the fuck is this guy? Okay, thanks. Oh, you know annoying would be? yeah You know what? i
00:52:38
Jo
Would you watch it with me? i mean Actually, at the same time, in the same place.
00:52:43
Jo
And would you let me ask a thousand questions as I watch it with you?
00:52:48
Charlotte Noon
No.
00:52:49
Jo
Oh, God. That took a long time for you to think through. You're like... No, motherfucker. I'm not going to let you ask any fucking questions. It's a movie. You sit down shut the fuck up and eat your popcorn.
00:53:02
Jo
I'm like, oh.
00:53:02
Charlotte Noon
and that that was That was me thinking, do I tell him, shut up and I'll punch you? but
00:53:11
Jo
If I had a dollar for every time someone said that to me, you know I mean?
00:53:15
Charlotte Noon
What, shut up or I'll punch you?
00:53:17
Jo
Oh, yeah. Oh, just this the other day, honest to God, I was at Starbucks and know and someone, i I made a joke and someone was like, you know, i'm gonna slappped the shit of you once. michael Thanks.
00:53:29
Jo
that Oh, okay. Good for me, random stranger. Nice. No, it wasn't random stranger.
00:53:34
Charlotte Noon
I can understand it. You've got such a slappable kind of face.
00:53:38
Jo
I do. Don't die. Yep, if I do. All right. So I'm going watch it again. You already watched it again If you haven't seen the theater, did you watch IMAX or no?
00:53:48
Jo
Me neither. They say it's made for IMAX, but I think Duncan Jones was correct when he said like, and was it Interstellar? What was that? the the The George Clooney movie with the stars and shit like that.
00:53:58
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, that was interstellar.
00:54:00
Jo
Interstellar, he said that movie was like made for IMAX 3D.
00:54:00
Charlotte Noon
That's, yeah.
00:54:03
Jo
I'm like, I believe that shit. I do not believe that you have to watch Mandalorian and Baby Yoda in IMAX to enjoy it. I'm pretty sure it works even fine on a fucking screaming device like the size of my bloody flip phone.
00:54:18
Charlotte Noon
Oh, yeah, it's.
00:54:19
Jo
You'll miss some shit from it, but yeah, regular theater's fine.
00:54:22
Charlotte Noon
It'd be fine on the telly once it comes to streaming.
00:54:24
Jo
Absolutely.
00:54:24
Charlotte Noon
You don't need to. Yeah, you don't really need to go to the cinema to watch it. It's it's it's great on TV.
00:54:29
Jo
Yeah.
00:54:32
Jo
And that's the weirdness of it because we both saw it in the cinema. I agree with you. if if i i saw If I got this as a screener on the telly,
00:54:43
Jo
Like, they usually the question is, like, we both get screeners. Like, would you watch this in the movie theater or is it fine for streaming? This one's fine for fucking streaming. This is fine for streaming. 100%. It's like fucking watching on TV. Watch it on a plane.
00:54:58
Jo
It would be fine for that.
00:54:58
Charlotte Noon
I mean, I loved it. i loved it on the huge screen. It was fantastic, but it doesn't really need it.
00:55:03
Jo
Right. But it's... No, it's not James Bond. You know what mean? Like James Bond like is like that visceral or Mission Impossible. You really should watch this shit. The biggest screen is possible.
00:55:16
Jo
This was like... It'd be like the equivalent of watching your favorite TV show at the fucking movies. Sure, you could.
00:55:24
Charlotte Noon
Yeah.
00:55:26
Jo
But how big do I need to see Father Jack? You know? I get the jokes. I get the puns. You know? though i Del Boy, i'm like how big should Del Boy be? Yeah, about the size of my TV set.
00:55:42
Charlotte Noon
Yeah, that's fine.
00:55:44
Jo
Now I will mention this. I was in Ottawa for Lee Hatfield. Hi, Lee. I don't know. Lee, if you're still watching this at the 58 minute mark, hello. But he was in a movie, there's a short film anthology that was screened in Ottawa.
00:56:02
Jo
And he very nicely invited me. But after that anthology showing, they did Star Wars Jedi. So i like I went to dinner and I came back for fucking, like I had to drive back that night.
00:56:18
Jo
like I don't think I had a fucking hotel room. I was just driving my ass back that night. And I was like, fuck, I can't pass up Jedi in the fucking theater though. and it was amazing. So there was like May 4th, they did like the, the,
00:56:32
Jo
New Hope and then the Empire and then just happened to be that whatever day it was like probably May 7th from when that was a Jedi. And I was like, I was actually thinking about the, I'm like, you know who really enjoyed this? Charlotte. And I didn't know you were that big of a Star Wars fan, but I just thought you liked the going to see the older movies in the theater.
00:56:50
Jo
like I just thought you just liked that vibe of it. But now I know you're a big Star Wars fan. I should have ripped that shit in more. Yeah, motherfucker, that was a great experience. though That's a fucking movie you should see in the theater. If you get a chance to see Jedi and shit like that, you fucking go.
00:57:03
Jo
a theater? Yes, sir.
00:57:05
Charlotte Noon
I have actually seen them in the theatre, not when they originally came out, but since then I have actually been to see.
00:57:11
Jo
Oh, the remakes? Oh, yeah, I know.
00:57:12
Charlotte Noon
No, no, not not the remakes when they, yeah, before one of my local theatres, before they, yeah before they updated them.
00:57:13
Jo
it
00:57:17
Jo
Before they ruined him.
00:57:23
Charlotte Noon
One of my local. Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:23
Jo
they updated it by killing the fucking childhood.
00:57:28
Jo
As South Park very much quickly put out. Yeah, so no, no, that's like that one you should see in the theater. Like you should see the original trilogy in the theater if you could. Mandalorian?
00:57:38
Jo
I mean, sure. Why not? Would I, if it had like a family of five and it was $20 a ticket? No. I'm good. I can just stream it, you know, for like 20 bucks a month.
00:57:54
Jo
But if it's just like solo or like a one date thing, like, yeah, I kind of go. It's not, I mean, I didn't feel like I wasted money going.
00:58:03
Charlotte Noon
I didn't waste any money because I've got a ticket that I paid monthly for.
00:58:06
Jo
And you went, oh, you, you comped it.
00:58:08
Charlotte Noon
and So it was it was just, you know, technically it was free.
00:58:09
Jo
Yeah. Yeah. See, he's definitely be fucking for you.
00:58:16
Jo
It was free. Well, okay. Well, shit.
00:58:18
Charlotte Noon
Or maybe I paid for the first one and sold the second one for free.
00:58:22
Jo
And so was like, one point, that's good for you. I'll say it. I will see it again. I'll tell you that. After talking to you, I will see it again. Absolutely. Oh, my God. So if you liked our Star Wars episode, we might actually come back. Now that I know that you are really into Star Wars.
00:58:37
Jo
We can't do the cartoon shows because i I've got nothing. Bad Batch, if I remember it. Like, oh, just remember. okay. Something about Rex. don't know. Fucking no. Like Bullseye or some shit.
00:58:46
Charlotte Noon
Thank
00:58:47
Jo
like that they all And that's the thing. They all have story arcs. I do remember that. And then, like, the MacGuffin girl. Or, like, the definitely clone wink, wink, wink girl. And, uh, no, we can do Star Wars. It'll be fine. It'll be fine.
00:59:00
Jo
Yeah, yep. So next time on Streaming Demons... I do believe Box, Youman, and I are going to talk about lesbian space princesses and also the movie. But coming up later, who knows? If you have an idea of what we should talk about, give us a holler. Give us a ring.
00:59:17
Jo
Like and subscribe. Put comments below. Who knows? If you haven't seen obsess Obsession yet, see that shit in the theater. That shit is a theater movie. Obsession, a thousand fucking... You saw it?
00:59:27
Charlotte Noon
Yes.
00:59:28
Jo
We will talk about Obsession next. Not now. Because that is a fucking theater movie for, and it's got no fucking special effects that need be in the theater, but the sound needs to be in the fucking theater. That's the scary fucking part of the movie.
00:59:42
Jo
Fucking screams. And they have a brilliant PR scam too. All right. But half of myself and Charlotte, we bid you good day. y'all. Treatment demon movie out.