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Signings, Missed Opportunities and UEFA fines
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Michael hosts Iain to talk about what's happened over the weekend on both the Newcastle front and with our Premier League rivals.
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Transcript
Introduction & Transfer Window Concerns
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everybody and welcome back to the Daily Newcastle podcast. My name is Michael Grahamslaw and I'm your host today and I am joined by Ian Mackay. How's it going Ian? Are you well?
00:00:21
Iain
i'm very well at the end of the weekend and we've got Monday morning when we're coming out and another week when the pace will pick up in the transfer window, no doubt.
00:00:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Fingers crossed. ah Yeah, absolutely. Fingers crossed. It's one of those where I'm starting to think the Newcastle United team don't work weekends. They've decided the season's long enough and when it as soon as the season finishes, weekend breaks every time.
00:00:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Must be nice. um but Actually, we live normal jobs. and For me, that is the case. um But
Anthony Alanga Bid & Speculations
00:00:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
good stuff. We're going to discuss a few things that have actually happened over the weekend, starting with news that came out about two minutes after you and joanne recorded the the last episode about anthony langer and then we'll move on to some other news that's come out but to start off uh the news that newcast united had bid 55 million for anthony langer um that was thursday friday it's now sunday evening um and we've heard very little about the deal over the weekend
00:01:09
Iain
Thank you.
00:01:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Does that maybe give you a bit of an indication that the deal was rejected? Or do you just think maybe we're just a bit slow on putting the pieces together? What do you think, Ian?
00:01:38
Iain
Well, i I go back to what point Joanne was making. We haven't got... We're back in the cloak and dagger Mike Astley days where no news comes out at all, which, of course, we had our...
00:01:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:01:53
Iain
We had a light shone on everything and even people behind the curtain when it was Amanda and Murdad that were in charge. But I don't know. i am ah Maybe it's not done. Maybe they don't want the detail out. Maybe they don't want to say it's happened.
00:02:08
Iain
because it could get hijacked like the Del Pedro deal was. ah But from what I understand, and it was what we were asking for on um Thursday night when we were recording, that we bid 45, we bid 50, and we were just saying, look, five million quid that they're after, then bid 55 plus extras.
00:02:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:29
Iain
Let's just get the deal done, because it seems like penny pinched in.
00:02:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%.
00:02:34
Iain
don't think there's any doubt that Alanga himself is quite keen for the moon. He seems to be Facebook's friends with half the Newcastle squad.
00:02:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
hundred cent
00:02:44
Iain
And of course, for him to be yeah linking up um and be linking up with alex Alexander Izak at a club level would surely cement him in the Swedish national side for the next six seven years as well.
00:03:00
Iain
So I feel to understand, even if it's not just for dancing lessons from Willa Sula, why El Anga would like to come
00:03:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%.
00:03:07
Iain
um I've heard various reports that the 55 million has been accepted,
Transfer Market Strategies & Player Dynamics
00:03:15
Iain
um and but they're just eye ironing out the the way it stays.
00:03:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, I'd heard that.
00:03:20
Iain
We want to split it into instalments because it will give us a little bit more to spend this summer, but which is fair enough.
00:03:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Installments, yeah.
00:03:29
Iain
Do they do that on a... You think if it was trying to get Alanga in for the start of pre-season tomorrow morning, that they would be working on the weekend to get that done.
00:03:39
Iain
Because I don't think, till it's done, he doesn't come up to Newcastle and have his medical, does he?
00:03:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, absolutely not.
00:03:45
Iain
So we are faffing about a bit, I think. But, you know, we're not privy to the details of the deal.
00:03:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think the Alanga one might be, we might be looking at it as the deal where, right, we can get um some installment deals in there because it doesn't seem like there's many teams that have been linked. You know, Newcastle have been linked for a long time now.
00:04:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bids are coming in. It doesn't seem like many other teams, if any, are willing to go at that price tag for Alanga. So it might be one of those that the team's identified and gone. Well, actually, we can get the installments here instead of, let's say, Giorgio Scalvini.
00:04:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah where 30 million, it seems everyone seems to be jumping on that. Not that an actual bid's been put in by anyone, but if you believe the rumours, everyone's interested in that. Before we get to him, um ah do want to say, I i hope the the bid for Alanga hasn't been rejected. We do. We are reading that it is accepted, but if if it's been accepted and we still ironing out parts of the deal it hasn't yet been accepted uh in my mind um because there's always a way can go wrong um hopefully we're just waiting for us to sign a replacement um they did sign someone over the weekend uh brazilian striker so
00:04:45
Iain
Thank you.
00:04:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
potentially that might open up the way for a longer to go. um But it does seem that a player has gone very quiet over the last week is the James Trafford signing.
00:05:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Various sources do still seem optimistic, but what are we going say in
00:05:10
Iain
Michael, just before just before you get into James Trafford, which of course we can and talk about, did you read that the yeah one of the sticking points on the initial Alangapid was that they wanted Jacob Murphy to form part of the deal?
00:05:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't really...
00:05:27
Iain
And Eddie put his doubt at that. Do you think that's true or is that something that they can speculate about when it's already been withdrawn so it could just be made up?
00:05:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I feel like that one's a bit made up. I think the way that Forrest play, I think they're going to be looking at players that are a little bit quicker than Jacob Murphy, a little bit younger that they can sell on.
00:05:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah You look at their transfer policy, it's a lot like ours where they like to bring in young players and push them forward. I don't think Jacob Murphy would be part of the deal, but let's be honest, if Newcastle offered Jacob Murphy as part of the deal,
00:06:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Forrest would have been foolish to turn it down because he's an absolutely fantastic player. One of the only players that's got a better goal and assists per minute ratio this season than a Langer. So ideally from a Newcastle perspective,
Team Strategies & Player Evaluations
00:06:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I want to keep him.
00:06:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think, I think Eddie Howard does as well. So I think maybe that was just paper talk. I imagine it was probably set up on the Forrest side, uh, rather than the Newcastle side. Um, but yeah, just a rumor for me, but what did you think?
00:06:29
Iain
and what I thought he was too old.
00:06:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:06:34
Iain
but then But then he's ready he's ready to go in the first game for them to replace Solanga.
00:06:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
true
00:06:41
Iain
He is fairly rapid. I'll take it Murphy anyway. and But yeah, I just thought, yeah oh i I mean, I thought he was too old, but then I remembered that they bought Chris Wood at around about the same age and he was fabulous for them. um So I don't know.
00:06:56
Iain
I didn't think Newcastle would go for it though, because it buying a Langer doesn't solve one of our issues there. We're still a right winger, sure, if mercy goes in the other direction.
00:07:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Be foolish for it, Selmer.
00:07:08
Iain
Oh yeah, i yeah i i am
00:07:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, Selmer, feel not too.
00:07:12
Iain
I was a bit... What's the word? I didn't believe it because kind of after it's already been discussed and rejected and we didn't hear beforehand.
00:07:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:23
Iain
So I think that might just have been... I don't know, fantasy for somebody.
00:07:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, I could see why Forest fans would want to make their fantasy up of, you know, oh, well, we'd get Jacob Murphy because he's just had the season of his life.
00:07:30
Iain
I hope so.
00:07:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's been fantastic. But ah on with players who've had the seasons of their life. Obviously, we just mentioned James Trafford, a record beater in 2024-25. um Sources still seem very optimistic that a particular deal may happen.
00:07:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I'm starting to think those sources might be red or brown because I'm literally not hearing anything from anything solid. um Things have gone very quiet, but maybe that's just the the pessimist in me. What do you think, Ian?
00:08:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Trafford's still there to be done?
00:08:11
Iain
Well, i you know, keep going back to one of his old pals from his Burnley days, Nick Pope, putting that message, thinking he was sending a private message on Instagram, see you soon, Stagger.
00:08:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:08:28
Iain
which actually was a public message. But I think it's done. But why it's holding up now, I've no idea. Unless, unless Stafford's been away on holiday for 10 days or something.
00:08:41
Iain
It could be something as simple as that.
00:08:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's plausible, yeah.
00:08:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's definitely something that's plausible. It's one of those where we have seen the rumours. And to be fair, it is prime holiday season for players. um Now players are back in pre-season training. Maybe we'll start to see a little bit more.
00:08:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But yeah, it's ah it's an odd one for me because it's one of those that feels like it should have been wrapped up weeks ago. ah But more currently... The rumour of the weekend does seem to be Jojo Scalvini, as I mentioned earlier, from Atalanta.
00:09:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Apparently, he's available for around 30-odd million. It's between 30 and 35. I can't remember the exact figure off the top my head. But for that price, for such a highly rated young centre-back, when you consider Dean Hoyssen going to Real Madrid for 60 million and s Scalvini was higher rated than him in a lot of people's eyes before the injuries, it does seem like that's just a bit too good to be true, doesn't it?
00:09:37
Iain
I was just going to say that. It is a very good price.
00:09:41
Iain
Atlanta trying to get somebody to buy at a cut price because they know that he will never be the same player again he was before he did his cruciate.
00:09:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:52
Iain
I don't know. I think the medical would have to be fairly extensive before you would bring somebody like that in. I mean, I know he's a great player. I know we could look back that Tino Livramento had a cruciate and has come back and is better than ever.
00:10:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:10:06
Iain
and continues to improve and similar sort of age. But I don't know, I didn't like that.
00:10:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah.
00:10:14
Iain
I didn't don't like that unproven after that horrible, horrible injury. Like I say, what i who I would prefer, um and it's not just because every time I mention him, I can say he should be a goalkeeper, not a centre-back, because his name taps over the bar, is the Bersinio Faso centre-back at Leverkusen.
00:10:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Leverkusen. Yeah, yeah.
00:10:37
Iain
Edmund Tapsova, who does look a bit of a beast, actually. And he's £42 million, which is certainly far more palatable than Mark Gahey at whatever price they were closing us for the last 18 months.
00:10:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%.
00:10:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Both are brilliant suggestions. It's one that hadn't particularly seen, but he's a fantastic player. um And he has been linked with a number of Premier League clubs. um I'd seen that Liverpool were interested early in the the window, apparently. Arsenal apparently looked at him, although I don't know why, with Gabriel and Saliba. But um but if if they are, that just tells you how good he is when he's been linked with a team that has those two at centre-back.
00:11:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's fantastic player. Obviously, Leverkusen this season weren't as good as what they were the year before, but year before, they were absolutely fantastic. um So, yeah, I wouldn't mind Taps Obra at all.
00:11:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
What I would say is...
00:11:28
Iain
yeah The other I'll go say so the other one that I heard mentioned again and I know we talked about him ah we talked about him a little while ago um I think because you had heard that he was signing for Como
00:11:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sorry, go on.
Potential Signings & Financial Considerations
00:11:43
Iain
was that Malak
00:11:44
Iain
can
00:11:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, yes. 100%.
00:11:47
Iain
He's about £20 million though. and um you know we should I think we should definitely be interested at that price to see if he would like preferred Champions League and the English Premier League rather than newly promoted FOMO in the Italian League.
00:11:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
and so
00:12:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's the thing.
00:12:03
Iain
Her upcoming
00:12:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Como are basically the us of the Italian league. get them They're the ones with all the money coming through. um They've got good aspirations. They look like they're going to do well, but it's one of those where he has said that he wants to sign for a Champions League club.
00:12:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if a Champions League club comes in, he will sign for them. And the deal is apparently held up because of that.
00:12:21
Iain
Well, that's why...
00:12:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
So the the the group...
00:12:26
Iain
yeah That's that's exactly what I was saying. That's why he hasn't signed for Pomo. He's stalling to see who else might come in for him.
00:12:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:33
Iain
um Which is a cue. Cue the Champions League club looking for a centre-half.
00:12:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:12:39
Iain
Eddie. um I don't know. Well, we should be trying, shouldn't we? 20 million, he should be trying.
00:12:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
100% at 20 million.
00:12:44
Iain
I mean, for goodness sake, that's just like swapping him for Lloyd Kelly.
00:12:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a great shout. I hadn't even thought of it that way. ah twenty but If Lloyd Kelly is a 20 million pound centre-back and then you bring in Malik Chow for around the same price, that's that's fantastic business.
00:12:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Yeah, ah' ah to be honest, I'd love any of the three there. ah The only issue I'd probably have with Scalvini is we'd have we'd probably have two Sven Bottmans on our hands because Bottman obviously didn't have a major injury before joining us.
00:13:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Scalvini missed 58 games of the last two seasons. Sven Bottman only missed 59 and it feels like he's never played for us. So we could have two Abu Dhabis in our back line and then be left with Jamal Lascelles and Fabian Shaw as we're backlining the Champions League.
00:13:28
Iain
Thank you.
00:13:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
So hopefully that's not the case. But just to end part one there, Ian, Scalvini, or let's say, the figure in my head only works with Scalvini actually, but let's say Scalvini, Tapsoba, or Malik Chow, Alanga and Trafford.
00:13:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
If I was to say to you in two weeks' time, we'd spent $130 million or $120 million on those three signings. You'd be happy with that, wouldn't you?
00:13:59
Iain
think it's a great start. And I think you then look for buyers for Longstaff and Willick and bring a bring a midfielder in and probably European up and coming and the next Hugo Ekotique at 20 million out of Europe to undersea that.
00:14:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:14:22
Iain
I know we don't get Ekotique now. Do you know what? i gene It did occur to me that if we could bust the bank wouldn't it have been funny if we could have pinched
00:14:31
Iain
Jocka rest off Arsenal and actually end with the whole of the Swedish front line. That would have been a statement.
00:14:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh it'd be a great time yeah unfortunately it's it doesn't look like that's in the wheelhouse um but it would have been an absolutely fantastic one yeah arsenal 60 million uh well i don't look forward to seeing them in the league and for uh if i'm quite honest but the players we are looking at i do look forward to seeing them into newcastle shirts hopefully sometime soon um
00:14:38
Iain
That would have been a statement.
00:14:44
Iain
No, I think Arsenal have got it.
00:15:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let us know what your thoughts are. um If there's any players that you think Newcastle should sign on that. um I have seen rumours today um that were linked with Amir Richardson, I believe it is, from Fiorentina. I only saw it really recently, so i might have got the name wrong as well.
00:15:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know nothing about him. I've never seen anything about him. So if any of our listeners do know a little bit about him, want to let us know. Saves me watching videos on YouTube and then pretending I know what he's about. Yeah.
00:15:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But on that note, talking about watching videos, watch us listen to Bionique.
00:15:37
Iain
Thank you.
00:16:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely fantastic. Hopefully that actually plays for the listeners this time because there was a solo pod I did last week and I'm there during the advert messaging Ian, making sure everything's okay on his end.
00:16:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was the one where you're little late. And then I checked the YouTube comments in the morning and you've gone, oh I love the silent adverts. I'm sitting there going, what? What's going on? What have I done? um So yeah, hopefully that one plays that time.
00:16:36
Iain
me <unk>
00:16:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bye, Anique. I'm not paying it twice for you.
00:16:39
Iain
and The next night, ah Michael, I was playing the Bionic Adverse and I couldn't hear it in my headphones.
00:16:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh no.
00:16:46
Iain
so why So I started talking halfway through it. But well, I can't hear that. So I'm not sure it's actually. And of course it was it was recorded. So that's all fun.
00:16:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hey,
00:16:59
Iain
All fun.
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's more people talking about.
00:16:59
Iain
When it's live,
00:17:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bye, Anik.
00:17:02
Iain
Yes, well it's recorded live, so you don't need an outtake tape or anything. You just see the outtakes as they're happening. Why not?
00:17:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's always fun not to do it live. um But yes, to follow up on what we've just been talking about, i wanted to mention some right wingers who we've been loosely linked with and seem to be on their way elsewhere.
00:17:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
First of all, ah was None Maduweke. Looks set the sign for Arsenal. A versatile winger, can play the side predominantly on the right. For me... that feels like a really weird signing because he's not first choice at the Gunners. That's Bakai Osaka.
00:17:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And unless they're going to put him on the left wing, where he's played a lot less, could still be great, but it's risk. You've also got Ethan Nguanieri in behind. so and he's God's gift to to Arsenal, according to Arsenal fans. So for me, it doesn't really make too much sense, but it's another Arsenal signing from Chelsea, which is, well, I'll get to that later.
00:18:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
How do you feel about it, Ian?
00:18:01
Iain
ah Notewake is weird because talking about Nguyenieri, I think he's struggling to get a contract degree going into the last...
00:18:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'd seen that. Yeah.
00:18:13
Iain
I know he's only 18, so he wants his first big professional contract and he probably says, look, I am brilliant, so I need i don't need i don't believe you to put me on 20 grand for the first couple of years.
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Big books.
00:18:26
Iain
I want to start a big book straight away. So he could go.
00:18:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:30
Iain
um Probably to Chelsea. But yeah, Madweke is a strange one, certainly. I think he's a good player. and You know, I do. and Certainly he's been England's top man against Pandora, I think, would be fair to say.
00:18:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
00:18:48
Iain
So in England in international. um But playing him down the left, I'm not sure he's as good as Martinelli. I don't think he's a step up from Martinelli. um I don't think he should step up from Trotard even.
00:19:01
Iain
So I don't, and I don't think you want to you want an understudy for soccer when you can get Nguyenieri signed up, who must be Arsenal through and through. This seemed a weird one.
00:19:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%.
00:19:12
Iain
It seemed a weird one.
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I completely agree. I completely agree. And to be fair, I'm not a fan of Martinelli as a player, obviously. To be honest, I just don't think he has what takes to play for a team like Arsenal.
00:19:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I completely agree with you, with Maduweke. It's one of those where it's it's all potential for me. And you're looking at him and going, oh, he could be absolutely fantastic. If Arsenal are going to win the league, which they're looking to, they've just signed Zubimendi.
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah They're looking to sign Victor Joparez, as we mentioned earlier. They're looking to win the league. that's the signing that tells me you're happy with top four and you're not you don't want to win the league because you'd be going for someone better, in my opinion, on the particularly on the left.
00:19:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:19:53
Iain
these
00:19:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:19:53
Iain
the other The other name they're talking about, Michael, is which which is a statement signing, which does put them in the category of definitely going for league champions, is Eberhardt Eze at Crystal Palace.
00:20:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:06
Iain
Now that is somebody to take over from Martinelli and really elevate it. and You know, him or Anthony Gordon, it's likely to take of the two best left-sided players.
00:20:18
Iain
And I know Eze's played a lot in the centre of Palace. But he is he's a killer going down the left as well.
00:20:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, we're seeing them what you can do.
00:20:25
Iain
um i think i think I think that they go for Eze and then they hit Gordon if they're trying to get left-wingers out of the Premier League. I just where but don't see where somebody who's placed under threat at Chelsea on the right wing could possibly be a solution for that.
00:20:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Probably, yeah.
00:20:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely agree.
00:20:45
Iain
Maybe they're winning out on the money.
00:20:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe it could be one of those. But the thing is, for me, is they were linked with Rodrigo from Real Madrid for ages.
00:20:55
Iain
Absolutely.
00:20:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you're looking at it going, Club World Cup, he's, the last four games, Rodrigo started on the bench. And ah in that climate, if you're going to be used, you'll you'll be used. You know, you'll start games. Because realistically, it's,
00:21:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's very hot over there. i couldn't I certainly couldn't play football over there. I've seen teams from Atletico Madrid complain about it after 90 minutes. So I can only imagine this far into the tournament.
00:21:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Brazilian players who are used to a hot climate not getting barely any game time. And Jude Bellingham, who's English, would be surprised if he can handle 30 degrees. You know, it's it's one of those. I know he plays in Spain, but...
00:21:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's really weird and it's it's one of those where I think he's on the table, but onlys I don't think Newcastle would ever have a chance to sign him, obviously. I don't think we're that level yet. um But if you're looking at Arsenal, you're thinking, surely we can get something out of him because he can play either side, he can play up front.
00:21:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
um He did fantastically against City in the Champions League a few years back. It's a really weird one. And then to move on, another one that i think is really weird, Mohamed Kudus.
00:22:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I like him. I think he's a very good player. But he's told West Ham he wants to leave. He's told West Ham that he only wants to go to Tottenham.
00:22:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it looks like West Ham want £85 million for him. Surely that's too expensive, right? £85 million for Kudus.
00:22:26
Iain
Well, I know that was what... but I mean, we were linked a month ago, weren't we? And that was the price that was being quoted. I've heard close to the sixth because I don't think his face fits with Potter.
00:22:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:38
Iain
and think Potter rates him at all. And Kudus went off the boil in the second part of last season.
00:22:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:22:43
Iain
Or, in other words, Kudus went off the boil as soon as he was asked to play in Potter's system.
00:22:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:22:50
Iain
So I think Potter wants some packing so if because they've got something to spend to replace him with. i Bankland wants to maximise that. He's a great player. He wasn't great last year, but I think change of club is what he needs.
00:23:04
Iain
Why Tottenham, I'm not sure. He doesn't have to move house.
00:23:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's strange, isn't it?
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe it's one of those where, yeah, doesn't want to leave London.
00:23:09
Iain
Kids might be doing well at school.
00:23:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Maybe quite likes Thomas Frank, what he's done with Embuemo. I can see him maybe replicating that, but Yeah, for me, 85 is far too expensive. I think Spurs would probably want to go elsewhere.
00:23:22
Iain
Yeah.
00:23:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
um i imagine if he's at that price anywhere near, he'd be the replacement for Sung Youngmin. um And, you know, you do need a big name for that. But the starting bid was 50 million, apparently.
00:23:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I can't see it happening if the the distance is that far. If it's close at 60 million, like you said, then maybe they'll work something out. But... Just want to look at the three deals that are potentially going through for right-wingers.
00:23:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we'll say Kudus at 60 million because I think it blends it a little bit better, to be honest. But Nani Maduwege, 45 million. Anthony Alanga, 55 million. And Mohamed Kudus for 60 million.
00:24:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Which one of those do you think is providing better, well, the best, should I say, value for money? Because I don't think Kudus does even at 60 million. But I think for what we get, ah generally think Alanga in company with those two much higher reputation players.
00:24:18
Iain
Yeah.
00:24:21
Iain
Yeah, I know one or two people are saying it's very expensive, but it's not. It's the market, isn't it? It's the market.
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Lots changed.
00:24:29
Iain
Semenyo, when people first inquired for Semenyo, who's Bournemouth winger, they were people were quoted more than 70 million.
00:24:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:38
Iain
Now, I know he's signed another the contract, because he's so he's not going anywhere.
00:24:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:41
Iain
But, you know, Semenyo, 70 million. um Haven't agreed a figure yet for Mbwemo. It's allegedly 60 odd million, but the deal is not done yet.
00:24:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
True. Yeah.
00:24:52
Iain
So that might go higher. um i think were I think we're getting, a but we're not overpaying at 55 for a longer when you compare it to the other right wingers that are shifting around.
00:25:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's great.
00:25:04
Iain
I'm happy with that. Let's get it done.
00:25:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's great.
00:25:06
Iain
Let's get it finished.
00:25:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, just get it over the line. That's what mean. When you look at Alanga's stats over the last few years, it's one of those where it might not be a name that immediately excites you. But when you look into it and think, all right, maybe I just haven't seen enough of him because his stats are absolutely fantastic.
00:25:20
Iain
Thank you.
00:25:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he was Forrest's main attacking outlet. And the main thing for me was um we saw last season, Murphy and Izak had excellent link up on that right-hand side.
00:25:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
um They got their highest assists to goal scorers in the league. I think they got as Murphy assisted Isaac seven times. The duo that was either second or third in that was Anthony Alanga assisting Chris Wood.
00:25:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it shows what we potentially lose with Izak and Murphy's connection. We're probably going to get pretty much straight away with Alanga. um And I'll tell you who wasn't on there, Kudus or Madaweke. So for me, that sounds perfect. Madaweke is definitely roarer than Alanga.
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, Rora, then Alanga, despite them being the same age. I do like both players. And we did say at the start of the window, we'd like Maduweke. So we're not saying he's bad at all.
00:26:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
um but But what I really want to ask you about, and it's it's bugging me, and I mentioned a bit before the pod,
00:26:23
Iain
Thank you.
00:26:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
um It's another signing that Chelsea have made a profit on. And it takes their income to £65 million this this year after the sale of Kepa and Humphreys, who went to Burnley.
00:26:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
um It's really annoying me that teams are so willing to bail Chelsea out of their financial issues. And I know everyone's probably sitting there thinking, well, they'll just sell another house or they'll sell a hotel.
00:26:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
They'll top a heel, he'll sell his mansion and go, oh, it was owned by Chelsea or something like that. but There's only so many assets they can sell before it starts to tick away at them. And it's really annoying me. How do you feel?
00:27:04
Iain
I think you've got to let that go, Michael. I think if you're running a club and you're looking for asset for your club, a winger, whatever, if the price is fair and it comes from Chelsea, you get him.
00:27:17
Iain
You don't think, oh, yeah, but this is going to help them. And they don't need any help because they've already worked out. They've already got the most creative minds working on the PSR rules. So they sell the ladies team and suddenly get a 200 million win for
00:27:32
Iain
And they'll have as well. So they're not breaking the rules, not the Premier League rules, but they can only do that once.
00:27:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:27:40
Iain
So, you know, in the grand scheme of things, they can only do that one time.
00:27:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. like
00:27:45
Iain
And we have a ladies' team. Maybe we're waiting for our ladies' team to get a bit higher in the ladies' league, to get a bit of extra, so but we can value it at a higher amount before we sell our ladies' team to somewhere else in the Newcastle Voles.
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Got promoted next season. and
00:28:01
Iain
And and we use we do that as well.
00:28:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:03
Iain
So i don't think I don't think you've got to resent teams buying players off Chelsea because that team, first and foremost, is looking for reserve goalkeeper a right winger that they can replace a better left winger with for whatever reason Arteta wants him.
00:28:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
You,
00:28:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah you
00:28:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
i know you're right and i know you're talking sense but it it just annoys me so i'm gonna take 30 seconds to cool oh it is very annoying but i'm gonna take 30 seconds to cool off and can you give me the second advert of the episode this time from zencaster
00:28:30
Iain
Oh, it's annoying!
00:28:33
Iain
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00:28:40
Iain
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00:28:56
Iain
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Iain
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00:29:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely fantastic. And if you're not from Newcastle and you had no idea what the last two phrases Ian said was, it's because Zencast has previously removed them. But we'll make sure you know you hear them next time.
00:29:36
Iain
Okay.
00:29:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
um So in this part, I said we were going to talk less about Chelsea. I'm actually going to talk about them more.
UEFA Financial Fair Play & Club Strategies
00:29:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Might as well be make this the Daily Chelsea podcast at this point. um But... I'll keep it short.
00:29:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
So the new UEFA fines that they've been basically putting out for breaching their financial fair play regulations, this isn't PSR. um It's because of the percentage of a club's income spent on the first team squad.
00:30:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah The squad cost ratio, basically, the fees and wages. um For us, it's around 69%. For Chelsea and Villa, it's above 80%, which is against UEFA's rules. So Chelsea's fine also includes because they were using hotel sales to try and boost income, um which makes me feel a little bit better.
00:30:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But Fabrizio Romano reported the fees of Chelsea being fined £20 million, and Barcelona being fined £15 million, Lyon £12.5 million, Aston Villa £11 million and Roma £3 million.
00:30:32
Iain
Thank you.
00:30:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Other sources said it's higher for Chelsea. um It could go up to £91 million in four years if Chelsea don't book their ideas up apparently. But I'm no financial expert, but over five years, £91 million.
00:30:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
It sounds a lot to Newcastle fans, but when you're Chelsea and you're spending less than that, sorry, more than that on Romelu Lukaku and 55 million on Joe Felix, I don't think that finds enough of a deterrent. What do you think? Because if I'm Chelsea, I'm just doing it again.
00:31:08
Iain
don't think finding the richest clubs in the world is a deterrent.
00:31:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
absolutely No, absolutely not.
00:31:15
Iain
I think think, well, you know, if it's if it's closed and they've just gone over, maybe a fine is relevant. If it's just a completely flagrant breach of the UEFA rule, i.e.
00:31:29
Iain
selling a hotel when you're particularly not allowed to sell a hotel, then The only sanction really that's going to have any effect and make you not do it again is a ban from Europe.
00:31:42
Iain
And that will hit them and where they get hit most, in the pocket. No Champions League income for a year, or in Villa's case, no Europa League income for a year. I think that's the deterrent.
00:31:56
Iain
And that will that will have them all playing the game on it.
00:32:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%.
00:32:01
Iain
No good finding loopholes that only work in the because the Premier League wants to keep this top six in the top six position when it's not complying with what UEFA want for the but the wider game in Europe. I just don't think fines are... I mean, a 91 million fine is a huge amount of money.
00:32:18
Iain
that If that comes off ah the money they're allowed to spend and they can't just write it off as a loss or take it out because it's a fine, it's not proper sort of trading loss.
00:32:31
Iain
then then that would that would be a ah disincentive. But 20 million for Calcet? No, come on.
00:32:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely not. i think when you look at the, sorry, go
00:32:40
Iain
They've got players who will get that, trying to work out the maths here, fifty yeah,
00:32:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
probably two years, two, three years.
00:32:54
Iain
to it's two calories for a couple of a couple of youth team players becoming third team squad members.
00:33:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:02
Iain
Not a lot.
00:33:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, not at all. I think when you look at the clubs as well, it's it's Barcelona, billions in debt. I think they've managed to whittle it down to 400 million by selling virtually every asset they can.
00:33:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's still 400 million in debt, um which is more than what Lyon were forced to be relegated for, um which is insane. But Chelsea, I think only Man United have spent nearly half of what they've spent since Behili came in.
00:33:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Villa have just had to sell their women's team to avoid PSR issues. And Roma, I don't know a lot about their financial restrictions. It's Italy. There's probably some at Garnon there. and But they're under financial restrictions until 2027. The exact details of which I don't know. But all five teams haven't exactly been deterred from breaking the rules.
00:33:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Aston Villa, they're having their best ah best spell of, well, the last 20, 30 years minimum. Lyon, albeit not where they used to be, Chelsea have managed to get themselves back into the Champions League hunt. Barcelona look a threat again.
00:34:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Roma won their first cup in ages under Mourinho, which is the year they actually got in trouble for the spells originally. So there's nothing deterring them from doing it, albeit trophy cabinets look a little thinner in the last five years than maybe they have. But that's because of Madrid, City, PSG.
00:34:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think... PSG's PSR and UEFA's affordability rules need to be changed to harsher you were saying potentially a ban earlier do you think that you could ban them from Europe from the PSR rules before they even get to UEFA or do you think PSR is realistically going stay around the same but UEFA can be a lot tougher
00:34:42
Iain
I'm not sure how the UEFA rules have worked but I do know when PSR was introduced in when was it 2015 something like that when the 105 losses permissible losses was was determined um I think that's got to be addressed that's got to be inflation index link um just look at what
00:34:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
something like that as FFP. Yeah.
00:35:12
Iain
the prices of players back in 2015, prices of wages back in 2015 were in comparison to what they are now.
00:35:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:20
Iain
um The permissible losses that could be raised, that gives us a more level playing field but for everybody. um ah don't know if UEFA have the same levels that they had back in 2015 or if they have been raising the the levels to sort of meet inflation over time.
00:35:43
Iain
um
00:35:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think that's how they fix PSR then? Inflation over time, sort of over the last 10 years, what's inflation been?
00:35:49
Iain
Well,
00:35:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then they raise it to meet that because to be honest, that's a really good idea.
00:35:54
Iain
everything else has that, doesn't it? You know, um all of your mobile phone contracts that run for more than 12 months are going to get an inflation plus a certain amount added at the 12 months and 24 months times of your contract.
00:36:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. It's true.
00:36:09
Iain
because they don't know what to charge in 12 months' time or 24 months' time. It's a standard business practice to do that.
00:36:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
true
00:36:17
Iain
So it's ludicrous that this 105 was set 10 years ago and no one thought, oh, look, everybody's costing at least double what they would have done back in 2015. So surely the losses that you're allowed to make must be twice as much.
00:36:32
Iain
They haven't. They're still pegs right back there. And that's why, i think that's why it really does entrench the top six as a top six because it's another area where ambitious clubs are restricted from actually spending the money that they've got um because they can't make a loss that would be the equivalent loss in 2015 in 2025. They've still got to work on 2015 loss sizes even though the players are so much more expensive.
00:37:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's a great point. like You could sign for 105 million, you could sign five top four quality players um and back in 2015. I can think of a few. and you know even new cut i mean We were signing Miggie Elmer on for about that price just a few years later, so maybe not.
00:37:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But definitely in comparison now, you're looking at it and going 20 million gets you some nobody who ends up signing for Sunderland.
00:37:25
Iain
Thank you.
00:37:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it's it really is a difficult one. But my final question, and with all the financial restraints in England um and particularly on Newcastle United, do you think in the next two to three years, PIF might start to bring in european another European club into the equation?
00:37:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Obviously, they own quite a few in Saudi. They own Newcastle United. it Do you think with the the current restraints, maybe a Italian club or something like that's on the cards?
00:38:01
Iain
It's always open for them, isn't it? But then there are other considerations in terms of what competencies clubs can play if they've got shared owners. We've seen the difficulty that Palace have got into about whether they can play because their owners tied in with Lyon.
00:38:20
Iain
There's all of the Red Bull clubs that have to be very careful ah that they're entered into different competitions.
00:38:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:38:30
Iain
um They may do, Michael, they may do, but what a lot of their money has been spent on, though, and this seems ludicrous to me, they've put all the money up for the Club World Cup.
00:38:44
Iain
That huge pot that is being set up amongst, let's be honest, it's between Man City, Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, a few others, a few others maybe,
00:38:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:38:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
S G those kinds of clubs. Yeah.
00:39:02
Iain
That's all PIF money that they're playing for.
00:39:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:05
Iain
And that is simply, you know, as you pointed out, because of the way the coefficient works and the restriction on the number of teams from each country.
00:39:18
Iain
Liverpool couldn't get there. Arsenal couldn't get there. What chance have Newcastle got of being there in a four years' time?
00:39:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:25
Iain
Very, very slim, I would say. So PIF will be putting another 100 million into potentially Man City's coffers in four years time. And that's all pure profit.
00:39:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:36
Iain
That's championship winning. um that's but That will be index linked. So if it was 100 million this year in four years time, it'll 150 that they get for winning it.
00:39:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly. I think it's one of those where, thankfully, think they decided to own us first and will always be sort of the, I think, well, like 80% stake are owned by them or something like that.
00:40:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think if they were going to move into, let's say, the Spanish or the Italian markets, they would get away with it, but only if it was under 50%. If you think City and Girona in the most current Champions League stage, that was only...
00:40:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
um They could only do that because they had a 47% stake in Girona, but 100% in Manchester City. So if it does happen, its it'll be one of those where I think they do do that. But for me, I generally can't blame them if they do because...
00:40:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
The Premier League and everyone else is is doing so much to stop. and know And maybe it is a good thing, stopping state-owned clubs from you know spending their money, even the likes of Villa.
00:40:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're stopping them from spending money, and it does preserve that big six, but it stops competition. um And I think if you're an owner of a Aston Villa, even Nottingham Forest maybe, in 10 years' time, you are going to be looking at this the Premier League and going, it's where the money is, but...
00:41:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can't compete at the top. So I'll have a Premier League club. I'll keep them firmly mid-table like Palace have. And then I'll try and win the league and get in the Champions League with other teams. Just like, um was it ah was it John Textor with Palace, Lyon?
00:41:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's got Botafogo as well, um his company. So it makes a lot of sense on that side. But yeah, it's one of those. Do you think the multi-club stuff should be banned?
00:41:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or is it something that is just part and parcel of football now?
00:41:35
Iain
Well, think there's a limited amount people who've got cash that they can put into a club to make a big difference, to actually make it competitive on the world's day.
00:41:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:45
Iain
And the the guys that have it have got a lot of money, like PIS.
00:41:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:41:50
Iain
They could own 20 clubs
00:41:54
Iain
if if they particularly wanted to. um I do think that the multi-club
00:42:00
Iain
structure could be very helpful. um in terms of developing football in lower ranked European countries and in uncovering talent from those countries that could be filtered through
00:42:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nicely put.
00:42:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:18
Iain
into into the top ranked countries more quickly than waiting for some scout to find who it is that's playing in Belarus. for example.
00:42:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, 100%.
00:42:29
Iain
and But you know, all of that's up for them to decide. I think it'll just happen. We certainly don't have any input on it.
00:42:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah hundred percent
00:42:39
Iain
We'll just wait for it to happen and then moan about it afterwards, Michael, like we normally do.
00:42:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right. Sounds good to me.
00:42:44
Iain
compar
00:42:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
And on that note, ah that is all from us today. I hope you've enjoyed today's episode, which was 198. Yes, we are just two away from episode 200. And it was less than a year ago that we actually even got started. So fantastic stuff.
00:43:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hopefully we'll have another 2000 to give you in the future. But for now, you'll just have to wait till tomorrow for the next one.