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2023 AFL Practice Matches — AFL FANTASY ANALYSIS | #PODPOD
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It's done! We got our last look at each AFL team before round 1 and all that's left is waiting for team sheets. What did we learn? PLENTY! But also to be wary that even these official practice matches still carry with them plenty of asterisks!
Holmesy, Harmey, Lewy, and Statesman (who dropped out mid-show due to work commitments) touch on all the massive movers and shakers, including ERROL GULDEN, Nick Daicos, Jack Steele, Cam Mackenzie, Dom Sheed, James Worpel, LDU, Errol Gulden, and, of course, Errol Gulden!
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Hosts
00:00:17
Speaker
G'day guys, welcome to the Pod Pod. It's your boy, Homzy here. As you can probably tell, Dossy, not available this week.
00:00:25
Speaker
Word going around is that he's getting a little bit nervous coming into round one. His team's chopping and changing and he's actually a little bit worried. He doesn't think that he has the Lux sewn up anymore. So, we've had to bring in the Super Sub. Hami, two-time top 10 finisher and I'm not going to lie, I'm probably a little bit happier that you're on this pod this week instead of Dossi. Such an important week. So, Hami, how are you, mate?
Team Setup and Strategy Discussion
00:00:48
Speaker
Well, thanks, Amsi. Thanks for having me. And as always, we've got the Foss. You guys know him as the statesman. I know him as my granddad, Foss. How are you, mate? I'm very good. I love this little break that we actually get between the last practice game and the season. And what I'm hoping to do is not make any structural changes from here on in. It's just let the rookies determine where everything falls.
00:01:17
Speaker
Yeah, as Harmony was saying pre-show though, there's a long time between now and the start of round one and the weekend's games kind of, you know, brought up a few more questions than we might have really wanted. So we're still kind of in no man's land at the moment. But our other co-panelist, Louis, is claiming that he's got his team locked and set and he's not going to touch it until round one teams come out Thursday. So Louis, how are you, mate?
00:01:41
Speaker
I'm glad, good mate, and I'm glad you mentioned that because it does hold me somewhat accountable too. So a bit like Stado said, the rookies will dictate what's to come from here, but just getting excited for the footy to start in the coming weeks.
00:01:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's it mate.
Episode Focus and Sponsorship
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00:02:50
Speaker
Alright boys, let's jump in. Hami, the SuperSub, we'll start with you first. You covered the Hawks-Pies game. What would you like to get started with?
Game Analysis: Hawks vs Pies
00:03:00
Speaker
Yeah, thanks, Holmes. You look a bit like Louis. I was pretty keen to see some footy. So first game of the round and first opportunity to get to a game, I went along and watched the game at Utah's there. So that was really good. I don't know how many was there, but a bit over 6,000 people they said, but it didn't seem that many. But it was still great to watch a bit of footy live.
00:03:21
Speaker
The first thing I sort of noticed was I'm having a look at the CBAs and how both of the teams lined up for the Hawks, Newcombe, Warpool, Mackenzie and the CBA and look I couldn't help but notice Newcombe over the course of that first quarter. He was really just accumulating possessions with ease so
00:03:41
Speaker
It did really bring him to my attention a bit more. He's somebody that I've had a bit of a look at but haven't been overly hot on. I guess in the Hawks lineup I didn't think that he'd be able to knock a decent score each week. But I will say they actually competed quite well. It was played in the sort of new age game style of really fast paced frenetic and a lot of handballs and less chipping around. So a lot by hand and less by foot.
00:04:10
Speaker
The other thing in that first quarter I couldn't help but notice was McGinnis tagging Daikos. I think that that's been reported quite widely. He got his way to 58 points in the end but he started very slow. He was running all over the ground forward back through the midfield trying to shake it. They started him at CBAs to try and shake it but
00:04:30
Speaker
he just couldn't you could tell he was getting frustrated there was one point where he threw McGinnis over behind the play when the umpire wasn't looking so you could tell he was sort of getting a bit annoyed about that. The Pies starting Ruck was Cox and it did really seem like he was the preferred Ruckman so
00:04:50
Speaker
I'm assuming you guys have been considering Darcy Cameron. Yeah, a couple of nods. He has been for me definitely. In the end he sort of played quite well as a forward anyway and he found his way to 77 points now. He's priced at 82.
00:05:09
Speaker
So I don't think it's the end of the world from what I have seen and working his way back from that hamstring injury still he missed a couple of weeks really there. So look if he is still an option for us in the ruck and I'm still a bit uncertain about that ruck lineup but I'm just saying don't write him off completely because it wasn't all bad news even though he wasn't the preferred ruck there.
00:05:33
Speaker
One ruck I think you can write off though is Lloyd Meek. He was really playing as a forward with Reeves in the ruck and he didn't really get much of a touch so I'd probably put a line through him if you were showing some interest. Mackenzie through the middle, he got a lot of CBAs
00:05:53
Speaker
I'm really saying, I think that there was a bit of news that he, I think Sam Mitchell, one of the assistants said, oh, we're not sure about that round one team yet, but he's got to be locked. He was, he was awesome. And he saw it enough to play through there. I think he sort of, he's a couple of turnovers here and there, but ultimately, they would have been really happy with the way he performed. Warple.
00:06:18
Speaker
He's one bloke who you can put in and out of your team from week to week, so I think for me the moment he's out. There was about half the game where he looked like an absolute genius racking up clearances, but then there was also patches where
00:06:36
Speaker
There's a bit of that uncertainty around his disposal efficiency. But anyway, had a lot of CBAs, as did Tom Mitchell, who was back up this week. I think last week we were a bit concerned about nine. Collingwood Midfielders going through their CBAs, but Titch had over 60% this weekend. He had a score in the mid-90s.
00:06:55
Speaker
I'm kind of feeling like I think that might be about it and might be about where he's at. So all those people that jumped off last week, maybe some have jumped back on. Look, I wouldn't talk you out of it if you had him in there. But I think that he's not going to be that one 10 score that we'd held some hope out for.
00:07:15
Speaker
Look, I could probably talk a lot more, as I said, watching the game. Fergus Green, great, great lead up forward, contested hard. They looked for him as well, and I liked what he did. Will Dapen, his CBAs. Josh Ward, bit of outside on the wing, little bit inside too, but I feel like he may be the one on the outside more often than not, so I'm not sure if Price at 72 is the mid-price option for our midfield.
00:07:43
Speaker
So yeah, look, a few question marks still coming out of the game, but Mackenzie was obviously the big tick from me going, yeah, going home.
Key Players and Fantasy Considerations
00:07:52
Speaker
But I can keep going if you like, guys. Any questions? I feel like I've been talking a bit long there. Yeah, I've got one for you, Hami. So you mentioned off air that this bloke may or may not have snuck into your team recently, but what about Will Day? So talk a little bit about more, talk more about Will Day and the reasons behind your might be considering him more now compared to before.
00:08:13
Speaker
Oh look, Will Day worked his way into the game well. I think he may have come off the bench and gone straight into the CBA's about five minute mark or something like that was his rotation but the more the game went on the more he sort of got a few touches and he looked pretty clean he looked like
00:08:31
Speaker
That's probably three weeks now like interclub practice match and then pre-season match where he's been in the midfield. I guess that's one of the things we look for in our defenders. He's someone I'm definitely considering whether or not he'll be there around one. I'm not quite sure yet. What would you need to project him to go to be a good pick in your eyes?
00:08:52
Speaker
Sorry off the top my head he's priced mid 60, 66 maybe something like that and I think he's going to be an 80 type player you know but there's a chance that he's a little bit higher than that as well so I think for a mid priced defender and it's probably more that I'm concerned about the defensive line and I've kind of had mid priced defenders there for a while so
00:09:15
Speaker
Yeah, that's where I say it would probably just change a little bit of a restructure if I was going to get rid of him and I might have to bring in another rookie. So this is what I'm tossing with at the moment.
00:09:27
Speaker
Yeah, one thing I will say, Hawks and Collingwood, last year at least, were two of the teams that the midfielders found it really easy to score against in terms of points. So, being a pre-season game as well, I think we might find that some of those midfield numbers are a little bit inflated and maybe they don't quite translate into the real thing, but all great points, Hami and Louis, you had something to add.
00:09:47
Speaker
Yeah just on wheel day I get a little bit nervous with him just because preseason games obviously a little bit more open there's a lot more outside ball to be had and even though he's in the midfield his role is very much the sweeper so he's relying on blokes to get it out to him so he's not the first touch midfielder and in
00:10:06
Speaker
What's going to be probably a pretty uncompetitive Hawks outfit for the majority of the year? I just think that his score is going to be too reliant on other Hawks. Midfield is also scoring quite well which makes me nervous and obviously his price point and his defender status is what makes him relevant but that's probably why I'm a little bit hesitant to pull the trigger on that one.
00:10:29
Speaker
I just think in that list that you mentioned there it's worth backing over Daikos and Warple and as well as Titch too in that game because it was quite a fantasy relevant game wasn't it boys?
00:10:43
Speaker
Yeah, it was. Yeah, the day cost thing, I was actually quite concerned. Went home, took him out of my team, thought, oh no, that's season done for day cost for my starting lineup. But then the next day I come to my senses and I put him back in. So I don't know. I still think he's going to be a good chance. But I mean, other teams are going to look at that. And, look, McGinnis is probably one of the harder tags in the comp maybe, but he definitely struggled.
00:11:07
Speaker
There was one thing that Sam Mitchell said at the start of that game when they mentioned that Finn McGinnis had gone to him and and Sam Mitchell actually said yeah well he better get used to that in regards to Nick Dacos being tagged so it's definitely something that other coaches are going to consider but at the same time I don't think it's you know run away and don't pick him type stuff because he does strike me as that kind of player with that performance burning in the belly might just come out and
00:11:34
Speaker
and smash you out at 120, 130 to start the year. And even though it is a difficult fixture, there's not necessarily a tagger in that mix. So it makes me a little bit nervous, but with the ownership numbers there, I think you're pretty
Confidence and Influence in Fantasy Choices
00:11:52
Speaker
safe.
00:11:52
Speaker
Yeah, and Hami, I would just like to apologize to you on behalf of the Pod Pod because you're usually such a confident, confident coach. You know what you're doing. And after being in our Pod Pod group chat for only one week, you've already started being a little bit flip-floppy like Dossy Boy over there. So it's rubbing off a bit. I hope you don't fall too much. But just remember, Doss talks a lot of smack. Louis, you've got the
Game Analysis: Bulldogs vs Kangaroos
00:12:17
Speaker
floor, mate. You covered the Bulldogs Kangaroos game. Let's have a bit of a chat.
00:12:21
Speaker
I could have just kept going lads, but yeah, no worries. Let's roll into the dogs kangaroos, which was also quite fantasy relevant as well Starting off with a couple of the big dogs in that dogs midfield. So Jackson McCray Look, if you were keen at the 104 price tag beforehand, he gave you absolutely no reason not to be keen still Was part of that main midfield mix was getting on the end of plenty of marks probably wasn't tackling as much as we'd like to see but
00:12:50
Speaker
being a pre-season game it's also a pretty unnecessary stat so I wouldn't be worrying too much about that so big tick for Jackson McRae and look I'll blanket these next two guys too because they were also ticks if you were keen beforehand and that's Marcus Bontempelli and Bailey Smith.
00:13:06
Speaker
Both were used through the midfield frequently. Look, Baz was a little bit of a quiet start but then came home strong and then Bontempelli was just consistent throughout and not hard to believe why he might be a bit of a brown low favourite this year just with his impact on the game. So those three are massive tick. Armin, you got your hand up there mate. Yeah, Bont mainly playing through the CBAZ and he didn't have that forward resting role that he did last year.
00:13:33
Speaker
Yeah, mainly through the CBA, so obviously we know that the dogs have straightened up a little bit up forward and maybe don't have as much of a small brigade up there, so they don't need the height of Bon Tempelli. I think he'll still go down there in spurts and he might still get the occasional tag where he tries to shake it down there, but I think we're going to be looking at a center bounce midfielder in Bon Tempelli this year, so it's something to look forward to.
00:13:59
Speaker
To be honest, it's a mix that we haven't really seen. Even with the departure at Dunkley, we haven't really seen a full-time bond in there for a number of years too. That'll be interesting to see. Going into the Ruckman, Tim English. Really, you know what you're going to get with the dog. When I say, if you were keen before, don't be afraid now. I kind of do mean it. Tim English looks
00:14:24
Speaker
relatively fit and by relatively fit I mean that he has had some niggles in the preseason but he couldn't show you any more by playing the last two games, the trial game and the practice game and looked fantastic doing it so wouldn't have any issues there. The big talking point out of the dogs was probably Toby McLean. He's been locked into a lot of coaches' fantasy forward lines for months now and yeah I've probably been championing him quite a bit.
00:14:53
Speaker
but he just looked lost out on that wing and wasn't able to find the footy he was on about nine points at halftime and just ominous signs I think and as we know that wing roll you can get lost a bit in so I think a lot of coaches will be fading him based off the back of this do you think that's an overreaction Holmsey or?
00:15:15
Speaker
Well, look, the role was definitely a big tick, but I think when it's your job to win outside ball, if you're struggling to win the outside ball in a game like that, I think you might be in a little bit of trouble. So maybe he's not going to be that 70, 75, 80 scorer that many of us had pegged him to be in the start of the preseason when, you know, everyone's progressing.
00:15:34
Speaker
Yeah, I think even after that performance, he's going to be probably pretty touch and go for the 22 as well. You got to think just from an overall point of view, and this is why we talk about those preseason games not necessarily translating over. So the Western Bulldogs scored pretty much 1750 total points that game compared to their average of 1540 in the previous year. So yeah, they're going to beat up on some sides this year and they're going to have games like that. But I wouldn't think that those all of those scores are necessarily going to translate over. So that's definitely a worry from the clean.
00:16:04
Speaker
I do just wonder how much Oscar Baker eats into Tobey McLean there too because he was looking alright sort of running up and down that high half forward wing and probably taking a lot of the touches and the impact that what Tobey McLean would have taken a couple of years ago.
00:16:21
Speaker
Yeah, just on Oscar Baker, I saw one that they did an interview with one of their assistant coaches and they actually said that Oscar Baker wasn't actually pegged to play that game. He was only going to be on the bench, but I think it was the injury to Cody Waitman forced their hand and he came on and he took that opportunity with both hands and more. So yeah, if he comes on now and takes that role off McLean, then yeah, it's going to make it hard for us to pick McLean.
00:16:45
Speaker
Then moving on over to the Kangaroos, they've got a couple of fantasy relevant names for a change this year as well. None bigger than probably Will Phillips who's been penciled in for plenty of coaches pretty much for the last 12 months. Look, he's got the role, he's on the inside, former number three draft pick, a bottom side in North Melbourne, he's going to have plenty of opportunity. That's what we've seen throughout the whole pre-season.
00:17:11
Speaker
The scoring may be a little bit of a concern just because of how poor North likely are going to be and we saw that Through a few of their scorers on the weekend, but at the same time He is a player that's missed a lot of football over two years and he could be someone who takes to it pretty comfortably and look honestly I think it's it's nothing to worry about his scoring and I'd be comfortable with him it and
00:17:36
Speaker
at M8 in the midfield there with him is Luke Davis-Uniac. And this was a guy where I was kind of surprised to see the feedback on socials. A lot of people have gone cold on him just because the fantasy score didn't necessarily reflect what he did in that game. So he had 34 centre bounce attendances and was on the ground 90% of the time, which ticks plenty of boxes when you're looking at roll and time on ground, of course.
00:18:05
Speaker
It just didn't reflect in scoring, but it didn't for his teammates either. Look, it's something to be maybe a little bit concerned over, but it's not going to come out like a Rolls Royce in the preseason game. He's got the roll, and if that continues into round one, where he has West Coast, he could get off to a really hot start.
Player Performances and Fantasy Impact
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah, the the role is definitely a big tick loot and I think you highlighted it quite well in terms of there are going to be games where the kangaroos probably do struggle to score against especially against some of your really top eight sides that are hunting for a flag. The one thing that really stuck out to me was
00:18:42
Speaker
Ben Cunnington, he was in the middle a lot more than I thought he was going to be and it really seemed like he was demanding a lot more of the footy in there than well clearly last year because he wasn't there. So if you've got Cunnington in there and you've also got Simpkin in there and they're kind of trying to switch it around a little bit and it's not always the hit to LDU like it was last year, maybe those back end of the season scores don't translate as well into this year is what we thought.
00:19:08
Speaker
but you're right he's still definitely under priced the roll was there the time on ground was there and you'd think the kangaroos still should be able to improve a little bit so if you were hot before it's probably a little bit reactionary to jump off now yeah and that's probably the first time we've seen it where cunnington's had that lion's share of the cba's and like you said homie it's something that we didn't see at the back end of last year when he really did come home like a
00:19:30
Speaker
like a freight train so it's something to consider and maybe that does eat into his ceiling a little bit. Sheasel is next, look he's a lock, Harry Sheasel, it's quite obvious that Clarko wants the ball in his hands so he started up forward, wasn't making much of an impact and then he was moved to halfback to try and find some pill I think.
00:19:53
Speaker
That's a strategy by Clarko to fast-track this kid. It's obvious to see even from a handful of touches that he's got class personified and he's going to be a star for that football club. So punching out a 75 in a preseason game couldn't have put more of a highlighter over his name and I think he's going to be someone that coaches can now be confident in
00:20:15
Speaker
in locking into their sides. He's not just a small forward, he's going to offer something more and if he can pop something early, a little bit like a Joshua Shelley did early on last year, then he could be someone who really makes us a lot of cash this year. Yeah, perfect, Louis. And then look, finally, I just mentioned Cam Zuhar did his calf out of that game, which was probably relevant a week ago when he had a decent amount of CBAs, but we probably saw in the weekend a bit of a
00:20:45
Speaker
Reversion to normalcy where Zuhar just had a handful and the other guys took up that slack so not too much to worry about there.
00:20:54
Speaker
Just a couple of things from me, Lou. Last week I did talk up Tristan Cherry a bit and I saw a goal he must have just been rested the week before a management thing or something because he came back in and it was a real ruck split. I think Cherry probably had a little bit more of the CBAs but was pretty close and I think that probably puts a line through him based on what you saw and the scoring that they both put up. One, Louis, I was going to ask you about, Dossie sent me a message, one of his boys, Steve O, how'd he go?
00:21:25
Speaker
Oh Jesus, I wasn't even looking at Steve, if I'll be honest. Didn't he play? Didn't he play? Yeah, I was going to say, I didn't see him at all, mate. So you almost caught me out there. But, you know, scratch, scratch Jaden Stevenson off your lists, unless you're Doss, of course. Put him in the maybes.
00:21:44
Speaker
But as always, Dossy goaded, Dossy special and Dossy one step ahead of the pack. Alright, let's get the FOSS talking. It's been very quiet over there. Stado, what did you realise or see from the Cats Brisbane game? Yeah, it was an interesting game actually. It wasn't majorly high scoring to be fair. The Cats just
00:22:05
Speaker
sharing it at the low time on ground and the low scoring, but let's get into Brisbane where there was a little bit of excitement there. And the main one is Dunks. He is just purely a lock. You must have him in your team. Great little game, only about 75% game time, and pumped out of 120. Just looked
00:22:30
Speaker
rock solid there. He's just a perfect pick this year. Will Ashcroft, I think we got everything we were hoping to see. Interesting that he had more game time than McClugage, Bailey and Dunks. So that's a fair bit of pat on the back for a young kid. So he's got the tank, 97 he scored. So really impressive, make sure he's
00:22:56
Speaker
starting on your field. I am amazed that only 60% of the competition actually have him on, certainly the goods there. A couple of other interesting things, in the defence we were keen to see if there was going to be a
00:23:14
Speaker
a rookie or two or someone like a McKenna who is reasonably cheap but they just shared so much of the time and so much around there that no one really popped out a good score. So even Kitty Coleman could only get himself in the 60s. So that's a little bit of a concern that they're just sharing the load there which
00:23:39
Speaker
I don't know if we're going to get the scorers we want. I think Wilmont looks good enough to be in the team, but only scored a 43. A bit of time on the wing. He looks good. He looks fine. Whether he stays in that squad to be best 22 round one is still a question mark. But I think with that scoring power, if he does play, he should be on your bench
00:24:04
Speaker
only. A call out to McLuggage too, the suitcase was quite good, gave us a 95 from 94 minutes of playing time and I did like Zach Bailey's game and got some CBAs, not a lot, but I think he's got a bit of scoring power but he's probably more a draft player than he is for classic. Moving on to Geelong, really there's not too much to report
00:24:31
Speaker
Unsure if Dempsey actually makes it in the team, but as a 200k forward, it's an interesting one if he does get selected. It's his second season, had a couple of games last year without putting much of a score on the board. He gave a 54. So if he does get selected, it might be worthwhile on your bench. Brewham was the really only other one of interest.
00:24:59
Speaker
had a good role, CBAs, gave us a 74, which I just don't know is enough with a price tag of 470. The role's a tick, whether he can find enough of the footy and whether he keeps that level of CBAs and the talk from the coaches after the game was he's putting his hand up to potentially be in the round one team.
00:25:26
Speaker
They're not saying he's in and he's CBAs. They're talking about that he's helping his chances of playing round one. So that was a little bit of a flag. He's a cheaper option. But to me, he's probably 80, 90K too expensive to be a little bit serious. But I like the role.
00:25:45
Speaker
Yeah, I think the thing you really got to hammer home about that Geelong game is that the roles were just all over the place and they've still got a lot of those veterans to still come back in and playing off in a grand final, they're clearly a little bit further back in their pre-season than a lot of these other sides are who were able to start early because they didn't make the eight.
00:26:04
Speaker
I know for myself with fantasy I like to have certainty in role and with a broom I just can't 100% say that he's going to have the role that we need so he would be someone that I might look to jump onto in the early rounds if he does just pop and we see that in the real thing but starting in if he starts and he doesn't have the role and he goes back to his 50s and 60s and he's a bit of a no pick and if he can't get off then your season's really done.
00:26:28
Speaker
It was you last week, wasn't it, that said you're just not touching any Geelong players to start, wasn't it? Yeah, I'm just a little bit worried about where everything's heading and we just don't know enough to be honest. So I'm also mindful that the senior bods that they've got, how often are they going to rest? So I want to sort of get some indication. I was hoping there'll be some
00:26:53
Speaker
some value in that squad just with a few list changes but I don't really see it at the moment. There is the potential of that Dempsey so I'll be keeping an eye on selection for him but yeah I can't say I'm a massive fan on any cats in classic this year.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah, the only one I really like is probably Tom Stewart and that's just based off of it's going to be a role that he's played for the last couple of years and it's usually conducive of a fantasy scoring but even not a lot of confidence in that.
00:27:27
Speaker
We talked about, you talked about Broome there, but I mean the starting midfield was still like Dangerfield, Camgar3 and Blixavs and then Parfitt coming in and then Broome was like the fifth string. So I don't think you'd have much confidence in his role, round one. It's such an established team that they can afford to try different things for multiple games of the pre-season and you just know they're going to get it right, round one.
00:27:54
Speaker
probably be firing towards the end of the year so it's massive grains of salt there.
00:27:58
Speaker
Yep, perfect boys. I don't think we need to cover that game too much more. Moving on, I'll have my first crack at this. So I am going to cover the Freo Port game. We thought we'd take Port Adelaide away from Louis for once. So Freo versus Port, starting on the Port Adelaide side, starting with the midfield. So Connor Rosie, 80% CBAs, massive time on ground. If you were hot on him before, which you very much should be, he's a fantastic player.
00:28:25
Speaker
He did nothing for his round one chances, any harm. I still think that there might be a bit of a tag issue down the track with how dominant and dangerous he is, but for now I think you can have full confidence in locking him being under priced as a really a top six forward. Then you basically had Jason Horn-Francis and Wines next as the two mainstays and JHF was actually quite good. He scored an 80.
00:28:49
Speaker
It's interesting, I'm not sure whether he's going to have that much time in the real stuff come round one. We know that he had a bit of an interrupted pre-season and they're still building his loads and he still strikes me as a little bit of an impact player rather than that accumulator at this stage of his career. So priced in the mid 60s or whatever he is, I think there's probably better options in the forward line, but he definitely didn't do his chances of being picked in your side any harm.
00:29:12
Speaker
And then it was just little bursts from Drew Jones and Butters and I think that kind of rules Butters out for us now. I would be wary of picking both Rosie and Butters in the same side and it seems that Butters just isn't at his full fitness coming into round one so he's not someone I'd really look to target just yet.
00:29:30
Speaker
Sticking with the midfield, there was no Travis Boak obviously, so take those numbers with a grain of salt. Boak, it's pretty clear that he'll play a lot more forward this year, but I still think he's going to have some time in the midfield, so some of those numbers might come down. And then the big ruckman, Scott Lisette, he did not put his hand up whatsoever, so he only played 60% time on ground.
00:29:51
Speaker
but he was monstered by Sean Darcy and and Teagle when he came on wasn't on for very long either but I think it's pretty clear from that split that it's gonna be Scott Lysette as the main ruck or the only ruck come round one with little chop outs from probably Dixon so probably not looking to start Lysette now especially coming up against Big O round one but yeah just thought I would mention that boys was there anything else from Port Adelaide that sort of stuck out?
00:30:17
Speaker
Just on that ruck battle you spoke about there, it looks like on the opposite side Darcy had a chopout from Tracy, so Tracy just took the role of Jackson Diddy.
00:30:29
Speaker
in that rough battle. Yeah, Darcy was essentially a full-time ruck with only little chopouts of Tracy, which we will get to. Harmony? Port Adelaide. No, you're right. We'll move on to the Freo side now. Just one thing about Port Adelaide, they were one of the highest fantasy scoring teams last season. And then this week, they were one of the lowest. So whether that's a change of game style or whether that's them just really managing loads coming into round one, I'm not too sure there.
00:30:55
Speaker
On the Fremantle side, so the Fremantle midfield was extremely tight. Okay, so you had Brayshore, you had Sorong, you had J-Grow Mirror and then you had Will Brody, the four there and they were all in there above 70%. Okay, so there's no secondary roles there.
00:31:11
Speaker
It's pretty clear that that's what Justin Longmuir likes to do with his midfielders. They're just midfield and midfield only rotating off the bench. So if you're keen on any one of those players, I think they're all going to be very good scorers, especially being in that Fremantle side that I tipped to take another jump this year.
00:31:27
Speaker
And now let's talk about Sean Darcy because this R2 spot has given us a lot of panic over the last couple of months. We know that there was no Luke Jackson, but Stado, I'm interested in your thoughts on Sean Darcy because from my eyes, he's looking his fit and trim and he's covering the ground the best that he ever has. And we know that this is what he does. He gets injured, but I am actually someone that's heavily considering Sean Darcy. So what were your thoughts?
00:31:51
Speaker
Yeah, I like the look of him. There's no doubts about that. Just the factor that there's going to be some form of sharing has me a little bit concerned. I haven't looked at his matchups, but I do like the price point.
00:32:08
Speaker
So he's got Rowan Marshall first up. He's got North Melbourne, so the double boys. He's got West Coast round three, which I really do like that match up if there's no knick-knack. But look, I haven't strongly considered it, but I understand why others would.
00:32:30
Speaker
Yep, that's a thing. He's just someone that we're kind of looking at at the moment because there is so much up in the air at that R2 spot. He's just not someone that I'd be ruling out, especially because I know a lot of coaches are looking at a Jared Wits as well, who admittedly will have more of a lion's share on the ruck. But I think you'll find that that Sean Darcy, Luke Jackson ruck split will probably be around that 70, 30, 60, 40, and not as dramatic as what some coaches have predicted throughout the pre-season.
00:32:56
Speaker
Two more players just to mention just on that wing spot so we know that there's a wing spot available at Freo and it seems like there's a few players putting their hand up there. My thoughts are that they probably will put an Ethan Hughes in there round one being that older bigger body who probably knows the system a little bit better but at times Liam Henry did some good things out there but he's never really been that accumulator he's been more of that gut runner
00:33:20
Speaker
more quality over quantity player, but he did score well in his price just above 300K. And then Sam Sturt, he's the one that we really want to get a game round one, 200K basement forward. Spent a lot of time forward, but high, high forward pushing up onto that wing. Did kick two goals to get to his score. But yeah, if he's there round one, he probably is someone that we need to look at with the lack of forward options. Louis, was there anything else you'd like to mention before we move on?
00:33:48
Speaker
No, I think you nailed it, mate. Yeah, I don't mind the Darcy peak. I think in that price range is probably the one that presents the most upside. It's just a question of whether or not that's going to be enough upside, which doesn't help anybody and definitely going round and round in circles in regards to the into the rock strategy.
00:34:09
Speaker
Sam Sturt is an interesting one. I think he could be a bit of a smash play if he is named round one just because he's got Saints and then he follows up with North Melbourne, West Coast, Adelaide and Gold Coast. So if he's out on that wing or even, you know, high half forward type areas, I think there's a lot of
00:34:30
Speaker
It's a lot of ability to find some uncontested marks, build that score build and just be a really solid cash generating rookie. Potentially at f6 but probably more likely sort of f7, f8. I'm quite liking Samster there.
00:34:47
Speaker
Yeah, just on that Louis, we say in the preseason to have a look at who's not there rather than who's there and Michael Frederick and Michael Walters both didn't play in this game. So that's two players that are probably entrenched in their best 22. So if he does get the nod round one, there's no guarantee that he'll keep that role moving into the early parts of the season. All right, Hami, let's get stuck into your bomber boys. They played St Kilda.
00:35:10
Speaker
Yeah they sure did it was a bit of an interesting game it was played down at St Kilda there in pretty blustery conditions so probably a little bit different to most of the AFL games these days in big stadiums but anyway they it did actually kind of influence the game a bit because you could see the disposal efficiency like both of these teams actually
00:35:29
Speaker
tried to hold the ball up a little bit and play a bit by foot and chip it around a little bit and that led to probably quite a few turnovers and errors by foot as well but anyway that's just a gameplay sort of thing so Mason Wood he knocked out 137 so priced at 72 we'd be pretty keen to lock him in for a 60-point upside
00:35:51
Speaker
this season, so that's probably the first one. Marcus Windhager, he broke his hand but I sort of looked at it, he did it in the first minute of the game. So I can't remember, it might have been Beitel who got subbed in for him at that point in time and Beitel actually went on to have a pretty good game and I think he scored about 70 and he's priced at 305,000 so
00:36:18
Speaker
He's probably won if he's named round one, and they don't elect to bring in somebody like Seb Ross that could be an option for us, I suppose, at a fairly cheap price. Once I saw Wind Tager, it made me actually think, Homsey, about round one and that tag that was meant to be going to Andrew Brayshaw. So maybe sort of put him back into contention for my team, made me more keen on him, I suppose.
00:36:46
Speaker
They sort of, the club said, oh, he'll be right for around one, but geez, we'll see. Main one in the rock battle was Marshall, man. He was everywhere. Good in the rock, good around the ground. I mean, at his price, I just think that he's going to be really highly owned and I think we'll all be pretty well locking him in. All bar dose, yep. I mean, the guy had 24, he had 24 disposals. Oh yeah, apart from Dusty. I can't remember what that concern was about.
00:37:16
Speaker
Jack Steele, similar to LDU, he was in the CBAs, 88% CBAs, got a few tackles, he was really just cruising around and the game, the sting was really out of the game, the bombers kicked a couple of goals early but after that they didn't really fire a shot and the Saints had a bit of a buffer, 20-30 points kind of throughout the day so it wasn't as if he really had to kill himself at the coal face in the CBAs.
00:37:45
Speaker
I wouldn't sort of let that deter you. Alan David Jr, he was somebody that really popped his head up for me and he was probably the bombers most dangerous small forward. So he was probably head of, do I mean head of Tipper as well from my perspective. So he looked really good, sort of worked up the ground a little bit. So I think he's somebody that we will have to consider.
00:38:07
Speaker
Merritt is somebody that I quite like and I watched him last week and I watched him the week before as well and he just gets it done. He just like get these little legs pumping and he gets to space, gets the heap of little inside handballs and stuff and he just gets the point. So I think somebody else mentioned before about that round one tag from McGinn as well. Geez, it's possibly going to him but I think that Merritt's going to be a good option again for us this year. McGraw
00:38:34
Speaker
He ran to space, took a lot of uncontested marks and stuff on the back flank, but also coming forward from that back 50 arc as well. So he looked excellent. I think he hit 100 points for the game. Hunter Clark had a few CBAs, but I'm not sure if he's really got the scoring type of game to be a worthwhile pick at his current price point.
00:38:57
Speaker
Setterfield, plenty of CBAs. He's going to be in the Bombers midfield mix, so I'm not really sure how many of these mid-price players you can look at, but he's probably some one that I think quite a few people will look at. I think he's going to get those CBAs. It's sort of like Merritt, Parrish, Sheil, Setterfield, and then sprinkling of a few others. Yeah, so he was kind of good, but I just feel like he's going to be there. I'm not sure if he's at the right price.
00:39:28
Speaker
Matias Filippo, yeah he took a couple of good grabs and he sort of legged quite well coming out of the 50 but he's a bit of a lead up forward and I don't really know what that's going to mean for us. I think everybody sort of raves about his scoring potential but that was sinful under 18's comp and we've seen quite a few come out of that league and have high points so
00:39:51
Speaker
Look, I think you should still be keen on him and we may need him regardless because there may sort of not be that many rookies named but he was just okay for me. Ridley took a bunch of marks and kickouts and crouch accumulated several points.
00:40:08
Speaker
Another one I didn't really harp on too much, but Darcy Parrish is 39 points. I think people have probably overstated the pressure that he got. It wasn't like he got a really hard tag. A lot of time it was just people arm over at the CBA.
00:40:23
Speaker
Probably a touch concerning somebody that I was looking at and I think I've put a cross through him now. Yeah, another one of Dossie's boys, eh? We'll let... Dossie's taken him out of his team. I'm sure he'll be back in at some stage before round one. But yeah, it's got to be concerning when you can get tagged out of a pre-season game to 30. Stado. Do you think Ridley is a fair dinkum option for our defence?
00:40:46
Speaker
Yeah, just with Ridley, you've got to think of it in conjunction with Redman and McGrath. It's not just Ridley coming out. It's sort of like with Hawthorne, they got Sicily pumping the ball out all the time, but it's a bit of a shared role, really, I feel. And the way that the Saints were delivering the ball into the 50, just high chipping it up and the wind kind of helped him a little bit, I think, Stado.
00:41:11
Speaker
That and also the fact that, you know, Machido Owens is their full forward. Filippo is probably their second forward. Like they don't have a forward structure. So these key backs, it's no surprise why they all feasted on marks and all got a reasonable fantasy scores because they just, they just weren't really playing an AFL standard forward line, in my opinion.
00:41:34
Speaker
but lost.
00:41:49
Speaker
I wouldn't be concerned. I mean, sorry, I shouldn't say that. Look, he didn't stand out. Okay, so he didn't do an Errol Goulden, but he still had the exact same role he's had the last few years. I don't see him going back and being below 100. Like, he's still going to be a good player and their main man there. So
00:42:10
Speaker
Look, just one other thing I didn't touch on with the, we talked about like North Melbourne having a shared ruck and that sort of thing. Well, the other thing about Ryan Marshall is when you said Mechedo Owens, you made me think of it. He took a ruck tap or couple and Zane Cordy took a couple, but other than that, it was just Marshall as well. So he's just the number one ruck in that tank quite clearly. Yeah. Yeah, no.
00:42:34
Speaker
lock Rower Marshall in, except for Dossie, you're not allowed to pick him now. All right, Stado, can you please go through the Sydney Carlton game? Well, we're only going to talk about two players here. The first one we'll give 15 minutes to, that being my boy Errol.
00:42:52
Speaker
How good was he? And look, it's unfair to claim him. I won't do that, but my God, was it exciting to watch. Now, the reality here is that he won't get this amount of midfield time in the home and away, but one thing that Horse and all the coaches actually talked about during the pre-season
00:43:16
Speaker
was that they're going to share the load with the young lads and obviously Errol is one of the young lads. Really impressive performance, you can't hold back that, 177. It is pre-season and don't get too excited but I think he showed that he's
00:43:37
Speaker
got a massive ceiling and a worthwhile pick for the season. So I'd be certainly looking at him to be your fourth forward. I think that's really good value. And if you're struggling for one of those midfielders, possibly you can take Dunkley as one of the midfielders there.
00:43:59
Speaker
Blakey looked good. We expected him to have a real drop off with the illness, but he actually looked fine. The one I was really impressed with was actually Roberts. He just looks so classy. He's a 200km mid, but just be mindful that their midfield runs so deep.
00:44:21
Speaker
There's a strong possibility that he's going to be wearing a vest when he gets his opportunities. Robum was the big loser here. Everyone was expecting a massive lift from him, and that did not eventuate, unfortunately.
00:44:40
Speaker
Lloyd was just nowhere. Unfortunately, I think we're just going to get used to him continually sliding and the reliance not being on him. And I can tell you that Braden Campbell looked super impressive. It's just another one of those great ball users that they've got in defence.
00:44:58
Speaker
Doherty, it's so hard to ignore now. I've been thinking all year I'm starting without him, but he's currently sitting in my defensive line. It's just hard to ignore. We've got so many question marks on our defence, so I'm certainly playing him. Hewitt and Kennedy, yeah, great scores, but the reality is they were out without Paddy.
00:45:22
Speaker
and got the rewards and certainly a couple of rookie options or chances should I say through the Blues. If they do get named because it's nice and early I'll be putting them on the bench and putting the the big A on them.
00:45:39
Speaker
Yeah, I couldn't agree with any more of that state. I think you summed it up well. Those young guys are definitely going to be going through the midfield a lot more, but just take those numbers with a grain of salt because it's not like Callum Mills is just going to come and sit in the back pocket again. He's still going to play a very big role in 2023 as the co-captain and Luke Parker still does what he does. What about the Colton side other than Doketty?
00:46:05
Speaker
Yeah, look, it wasn't over impressive, to be honest, but this is the preseason. You just got to look at roles, got to look at the systems. I didn't think there was too much to get excited about, but look, there's four players coming into that side for round one.
00:46:25
Speaker
I think there was a few trying really hard to cement a spot. The rest at the end of the day just getting ready for round one. So there wasn't a lot to notice outside those main couple of players.
00:46:40
Speaker
Yeah, I think if you were someone that was considering a Chera, I think that's someone we need to put a line through now, especially with Sam Walsh. Expected to return earlier than expected, no one's shocked there, so I think him being that fourth midfielder or that third midfielder, I'm not sure the scores are going to be there for him to consistently score over 100, although I'm sure he'll still have some good games throughout there. Just quickly on the two rookie status, so Cowan and Chincotta, thoughts there?
00:47:07
Speaker
Yeah, like them both, they look quite impressive in their little bits, but remember they've got some players, so we're talking McGovern and March Bank to come back into that defensive line. I think they want them there, so I think only one of them are going to get a gig round one at best.
00:47:30
Speaker
Yeah and I suppose the sicko and us kind of hopes that it's Gincotta being that mature age player who's at 200k but I think the coach came out during the week, well one of the coaches said that it's pretty much those two vying for that last spot so I think if either one of those guys gets a game I think you just got to lock them away and potentially play them on ground as well with the defence being pretty thin down there.
00:47:51
Speaker
All right, Louis, take us through the GWS Gold Coast Game. Look, mate, I was just going to say maybe we should allocate the other 14 and a half minutes to Errol Golden, because he's probably worth a bit more chat here. So, averaged 83 last year off 10% CBAs. So, he wasn't quite on everybody's radar, but then obviously comes out
00:48:12
Speaker
A week ago, 70% CBAs comes out again. I don't have the CBAs on me right now, but obviously punches out the 177. All of a sudden, this guy has come off the radar, so to speak, to be a real breakout candidate with forward status, no less.
00:48:30
Speaker
I'm struggling to see a world where this guy doesn't jump up firstly from his 10% CBAs to somewhere in the sort of 20 to 40 range and that's up to horse unfortunately. He averaged 95 on a wing and I understand there was a 157 in there that might skew things a little bit but that just goes to show the ceiling that the guy has. He's 20 years old and he's in one of the best sides in the comp.
00:48:58
Speaker
I just struggle to see how this guy is presenting any downside and he's really just put his hand right up above everybody else for the upside that he does have and in a forward line where you only really need to sort of scrape 90
00:49:14
Speaker
or let's say three to four to just be up and about top six forward. It might be a little bit different this year given the talent, but I just think this guy is presenting unbelievable value. And I do feel for the people that had him as a pod, but it's something that is worth discussing, I think.
00:49:33
Speaker
Yeah, look, Louis, I think you're right in the fact that he opens up with Gold Coast and Hawthorne as well. Two of the best matchups you can get in Fantasy Footy. I think if anyone's going to come away with a hot start in a game like that, it's going to be Errol. So you're right. I don't think he goes lower than his 83. He's going to improve. And if he gets that bump up to that 40% or even more CBA range, then he's going to be someone that we're probably going to need. So may as well start him with those two matchups. Keep rolling through, Louis. Let's get to that Gold Coast GWS game now.
00:50:02
Speaker
No worries, mate. So another relevant one for at least one of these sides, GWS. Josh Kelly had the lion's share of the CBAs, which is super relevant. When he has been the leading CBA getter for the Giants, he's been a massive scorer. He's a guy who's done, I think it was 115 before, it was certainly over 110. And he's gone through periods where he's done that exact same thing as well.
00:50:29
Speaker
comes in under price because Krazy Leon wanted to play him as a forward, didn't really get the CBA mix and Kingsley's come in this year and he's decided, at least from what we can see, that Josh Kelly's going to be one of the main guys in the midfield there and that's consistent with what he said all preseason. So he sort of said Josh Kelly, Tom Green, Steven Canilio and Harry Perriman are going to be the main midfield mix and that's exactly what we saw on the weekend.
00:50:57
Speaker
So josh kelly if you were came before jump on and if you weren't came before it's time to start looking at this guy perhaps because there's a lot of things adding up here and i just think he could be that guy who does break from that one oh one to one ten range which is what you'd like.
00:51:15
Speaker
Probably slightly more relevant, just below him is Tom Green. He's probably worth a little bit more discussion too, just at his ownership, about 20%. He's very much the M1 of GWS's midfield. He is the hit too, he is the guy that they go to, but unfortunately that results in a lot of handballs. It seems like his role is very much to see ball, get ball, give to Josh Kelly, or give to Steven Canelio, or give to somebody else.
00:51:43
Speaker
I just worry that that's going to hamper his ceiling a little bit through the lack of marks and also the spread probably left a little bit to be desired. Hami, what did you think about that, mate? Well, he had a great game, didn't he? He did, yeah. So let's have a think about that. He had a great game for himself. He was noticed. He did his role. He did his bit for the team. He scored 95 points and he's priced at 85 points.
00:52:10
Speaker
So what about when he has a down game? Well, when he has a down game, I don't see him getting 35 touches, which is what he needed to get to get that 95 in the first place. So what I worry about is if he does get attention, even if he doesn't, if he does have that down game where he sits at 27 or 28 disposals, does that then equate to just that rough 80 score, which is he's kind of doing it. He's got the role, but he's just not putting the points on the board.
00:52:38
Speaker
you sort of start to enter like that Jacob Hopper territory of a couple of years ago. Holmes, are you? Yeah, I think the thing with Tom Green is we really wanted to see him adding a bit of an outside game to get on the end of a few easy marks and get a bit of the link up play. But you're right, he was very much the stoppage to stoppage in and under zero marks in a game like that where the outside players were just absolutely feasting. Maybe that's part of it. Maybe they didn't need to him in a game like that.
00:53:03
Speaker
I think that point rings true, Hami, that if he's having 35 disposals in a game like that but still only putting up a 95, what's going to happen in a down game? So that's a great point and he's someone that I'm still considering and he's actually in my side at the moment but that's a great point.
00:53:18
Speaker
I think he's got upside. I don't think he's going to be a bad pick, but I do. I do just worry about the upside there, especially when you're extrapolating, you know, Josh Green's in that side. Steven Canelio is in that side. People are backing Lockie Whitfield to be in that side.
00:53:33
Speaker
and bounce back and the next one who I'll talk about Finn Callaghan who probably showed a bit on the weekend too on that wing played really low time on ground which I assume is just a load thing but didn't struggle to find the football at all didn't struggle to score either looks at home along that wing and he's very much a cog in their system and part of their play so he comes in an awkward price about 400k you really want him to
00:54:02
Speaker
probably go at you know 75 to 85 in that range and that's maybe being a little bit conservative. The problem with him is it he relies on outside bowl and that's not always going to happen and of course he was able to get that in a preseason game but when it gets into the contested stuff
00:54:20
Speaker
is when I worry. So I'm not going to knock him as a pick and I think there is something there. He's shown a good fantasy game but somebody I would rather trade into rather than actually starting my side because it's a pretty lonely price tag to start at 400k.
00:54:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, perfect lube. What about the Gold Coast side? Because these are some, this is a team that I kind of pegged to it to improve again and they were missing their best midfielder and took Miller and you can't really take a preseason game too seriously, but they were pretty underwhelming for what we saw. Yeah, they were.
00:54:51
Speaker
there was no toque so obviously their captain Noah Anderson played extremely low time on ground not 60% and because of that Rau probably exceeded a little bit he was a takeaway that took out of this game looked fantastic but then you know
00:55:07
Speaker
What do you take out of it when the main two midfielders aren't always in there so? Charlie Constable was another one. I think he's someone that we lock into our teams now He's playing off half back. He's taking kick-ins. You can tell that he's actually intertwined with their system. So I'm even a
00:55:24
Speaker
softening on thinking that maybe he doesn't have a role in that team post the first month. I think he might actually be best 22 for that side for a considerable amount of the year, which means that I'm going to have to start him. And let's be honest with that time on ground and that scoring potential, I could see Charlie Constable being one of the saviours of our backline, which is something we wouldn't have been saying probably a month ago, let alone, you know,
00:55:50
Speaker
two years ago when he was delisted so finally and probably the last relevant one in this side was wits and there's not much to give here so he did wits things looked really good for three quarters and then came off in the last quarter so if you're keen on wits then no reason not to pick him like we said a few weeks ago he's a 90s guy and that's just what he's going to be able to do
00:56:12
Speaker
Yep, just the other one. I know there's been a lot of hype around Flanders and he put up another big score as well but very little CBAs took Miller still to come back into that side. Noah Anderson to go fully into that midfield. He's just another one of those outside players that when it's on their day and they're controlling the footy, he's going to bob up and he's going to score well but there's going to be games where it's not on their terms.
00:56:33
Speaker
which means that the scoring might not be there. All right, moving on. Got two to go, boys. We're doing well. The West Coast Eagles Adelaide game. West Coast Eagles obviously being a more fantasy-relevant side for us this year. I think, just starting with Yo and Sheed, I'm going to put these two together. There's no doubts around their roles. Yeah, Yo only had 48% CBAs, but I guarantee that's just to get his
00:56:59
Speaker
Load management in just getting through the game unscathed building in nicely to round one she'd as well looked a little bit slow looked a little bit off the pace at times, but the role is there and He was someone that I kind of looked at and was getting a little bit worried and he found his way out of my side But he's back in at the moment I think if anything he just looked like a player that's missed a lot of footy over the last year And I think he's just someone that is building nicely well not nicely But he's building into round one so that he can hit the ground running harmi
00:57:27
Speaker
they're also getting beat pretty easily like you sort of some of the disposal efficiency and like you sort of saw she'd working hard but then the player that was kicking it to him kicked it to the opposition and he just had to have to come and stay in the mark and stuff happened a bit yeah and that's one thing we do have to consider if uh the eagles are getting beat week to week then there might not be that easy ball that he used to get back in the day so maybe his ceiling isn't quite as high but
00:57:51
Speaker
And that's a fantastic point. I mean, that kind of leads into my next point is that the Eagles were still very much playing that chip chip mark style around the back line. And although they've been on the record saying that they want to play faster footy this year, there's a difference between wanting to play faster footy and actually being able to do it with the opposition that year again. So Adelaide defended quite well, which meant that the Eagles were chipping around in the back line. So I think your Shannon Hearn, Liam Duggan, those type players were just getting the pill for fun.
00:58:17
Speaker
Even a Jaden Hunt back there looked like he fit into their system quite well and they were looking for him at times I'm still a little bit iffy on him. He had 18 touches for still a score of 60. So Maybe he's a little bit more of a quality over quantity like Louie has mentioned throughout the preseason But might be someone that we need to look at if we don't get the rookies come round one
00:58:39
Speaker
Just quickly, Ruben Jimby looked fantastic, reminded me a little bit of a young Bonton Pelly with that size and the way he moved throughout that midfield and his points per minute were very good in terms of a 68 point score of only 55% game time. So I don't think he's going to be a massive time on ground guy to start the year. I think they'll build his loads quite nicely.
00:59:00
Speaker
With the lack of options back there, he's someone that I'm going to say we just need a lock away and most of the comps going to do the same thing. So even if he does flop a little bit, we're all in it together. So he will be fantastic for us. On the Adelaide side of things, there's not really too much to report. It was very much the same as last year in terms of Laird and Berry being the M1 and M2. Laird just does what he does. He's still a huge price tag and not someone I can pay up for.
00:59:26
Speaker
If he comes out with 140s and you're captaining him it could be a bit of a stroke of genius. Sam Barry didn't get as much of the ball as he did last week against Adelaide but he's still in that midfield rotation around that 70% mark and I think that's going to continue whether the scoring is going to be there to get him into that 95 plus range. I'm not too sure.
00:59:44
Speaker
The other thing that I kind of noticed, so they did traditionally last year have an even tighter midfield mix. So you had your keys go through there and then maybe a Selego, but it was very clear that they have more options this year. So they've got Rochelle, Schomburg, Rankin, Selego, and even keys at times all floating in there. So those guys
01:00:03
Speaker
They're not going to have huge CBA numbers, but it just means that someone like Akiz is definitely someone that we need to get off our radars because that 80% midfield time that he's had in the past is not quite going to be there. And I think even like Louis mentioned, it seems like he's going to play that more defensive forward role, which can be pretty up and down for scoring.
01:00:20
Speaker
Just want to monitor there the last one I want to kind of touch on was Luke peddler who I actually thought played quite well He seemed like he was everywhere in that first half in terms of that high half forward roll pushing up to the stoppages and then really working hard back I was very surprised to see that his time on ground was only 55% come the end of the game So whether that was a bit of a management thing in the second half with Adelaide being well on top I'm pretty sure that's
01:00:45
Speaker
pretty much how it is. So he's someone that I'm definitely looking to lock in on my bench being a 213k forward, whether he plays on ground or not, I think it's a little bit risky and might be a bit of matchup dependent as we go throughout the season. But boys, anyone else you want to touch on there before we move to the last game? Oh, Chesa, maybe Chesa, probably wasn't. He played quite a lot of the game. That's the thing, he just didn't score that well. But I think he's still in consideration for us, bench only probably.
01:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, he's someone that screams to me that he's just not quite at the fitness level and ready to play a full AFL game. Like there's a big difference between playing in the ones during match sim and playing in a practice game with 28 blokes that you can rotate as much as you want. So whether it's the sub or whether it's not quite there round one, I think I'm probably leaning more towards that way.
01:01:34
Speaker
As I mentioned on the AFL fantasy fanatics podcast last night, that if he doesn't get a game round one, the waffle doesn't start until round five. So it's going to be quite hard for him to break in. So if you were someone that might be considering starting him as that red dot at D10, if we don't, sorry, D8, if we don't get the rookies, you might be waiting for a bit of a debut. But let's get into the last game. Hami finishes off with the Ds and the Tigers.
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah, no worries. Look, it's probably wasn't the best one to finish on because it wasn't as much fantasy relevant stuff to talk about. I mean, Melbourne looked really strong. They're going to be pretty like they're going to be right up there by one of the ladder, but also they're going to score quite a few fantasy points. I reckon pretty fast. A lot of handballs as a sort of spoke to the Collingwood style earlier that that kind of seems to be it.
01:02:26
Speaker
Toronto, he's just awesome. I mean, he's having a great pre-season. He's got the role clearly. And I think he's someone that if you haven't got him in your forward line, try and reshape it so that you can get him in there. The Tapp brothers, Gorn and Grundy, continued their 50% in the rut.
01:02:47
Speaker
although Grundy kind of didn't play all of that second half, he had about just under 70% time on ground. But they both sort of rested forward, so their forward line sort of seemed to be Tom McDonald and Ben Brown and then a resting ruck, and when they didn't have a resting ruck there, they kind of played small with like your bullen types. And it worked pretty well for them, so I guess that doesn't probably leave any room for van Roon.
01:03:13
Speaker
I can't see him getting a game at least early in the season. But Max is the better of the rucks. He scored really well, looked really strong, so he looks fit at the moment. He's an option for us, maybe. I'm still not sure about these rucks. Angus Brayshaw, look, he was okay. I think I'll probably talk about that Melbourne midfield mix a little bit.
01:03:36
Speaker
James Harms is back in there. So, they had him and Cozy Pickett, and then a little bit of Sparrow too, along with Clayton Oliver and Christian Petrarca. So, it looks like they're running a few more through there, and it's not bracial. So, I'm not sure where that puts him priced at high 90s. I think he's still going to have a really good roll, and that back line don't get me wrong, but I don't think he's going to have a whole lot of upside probably now.
01:04:02
Speaker
But yeah, Harms, back in there, I was pretty surprised, but that's where they went. Yeah, Harms, just on that, I think you'll find that Harms having that big role in theirs, mainly because Viney's out. I think they like to have that sort of defensive-minded midfielder in there that allows, you know, Petrarca, Claryon, even like a, you know, Cozy Pickett was in there, you know, they're in there clearly to hunt the pill and Harms does a bit of a job. So I think that's why Harms was in there that much, and I'm not sure that's going to translate in the real deal.
01:04:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's right. I mean, he made his name as a tagger, didn't he? And he was a defensive one. You could see that. That's why Cochin got annoyed with him and sort of squashed him in that tackle. But he didn't get it weak. He got nothing. So a couple of injuries to bear in mind. Dion Press just sort of strained his pec trying to go for a tackle. And also, Jaden Short's got a bit of a calf strain. So potentially a bit of space in that midfield for Richmond. But I mean, it's sort of like,
01:04:58
Speaker
You've got Shay Bolton and Dusty, who hadn't really been playing much. You've got Cochin. They're all sitting in the forward line. So it's not as if it's going to create opportunity for any of the young guys that don't think so. And speaking of young guys, I mean, Jed McVeigh and Chandler.
01:05:13
Speaker
Look, they were just okay, I think. You're talking about two strong teams here, so I don't really see much opportunity for the rookies at the moment. And then, yeah, probably just Hunter and Langdon on the wings, they were there all the time and they looked really strong. So they're probably there, but it doesn't really help us with the midfield, I don't think, at the moment. That's probably about it. I mean, Toronto was the big tick for me and I probably put a line through Brody Grundy too now.
01:05:37
Speaker
Perfect timing, I think you summed it up. The thing about Melbourne is though, I have them pegged to be very, very dominant this year and we know they're a high fantasy scoring side. So if you are looking to get those Melbourne guys in, yeah, they're looking to run a little bit more of a diverse midfield mix this year, but I can't see Clary Oliver only having 65% CBAs in the real thing and Petrarca the same. So well done, Hamid. Louis, do you want to finish up with anything in that game?
01:06:02
Speaker
No, just hoping that that Judd McVie actually gets to the line. So even though we did score that 10, was stitched up a little bit in that he had the direct matchup on Dusty Martin. So there's a little bit of a baptism of fire there. He might be one that if we don't get that Chesa or if Chesa is the sub, maybe we can put in McVie. But yeah, probably.
01:06:25
Speaker
have the same amount of job security there so yeah let's hoping he can come on but yeah not a lot to take out of that game like Kami said it wasn't massively fantasy relevant besides for a couple.
01:06:36
Speaker
Yep. Boys, what a fantastic episode for the listeners. Let's wrap it up there. There's plenty of fantasy gold for everyone to go back and have a look there. I think we've covered just about every fantasy relevant player there is. Just a quick reminder, we will be doing our listener league draft next week. So we're going to draft our listeners to represent us. So if you haven't got your review in on the Apple podcast yet, get that done. Next Monday, we'll be doing that. But boys,
01:07:01
Speaker
you know exciting times please don't play around with your teams too much in the next week and a half but what an exciting time it's the best time of the year so good luck and yeah we'll see you soon