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Carnton Plantation & The Reincarnation of Dorothy Eady
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This week we are discussing Carnton Plantation in Tennessee and Dorothy Eady, aka Omm Sety.
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Introduction to Sinister Sisters Podcast
00:00:12
Speaker
Welcome to the Sinister Sisters podcast. I'm Felicia. And I'm Lauren. We're best friends. And we like spooky stuff. Oh, yeah.
00:00:23
Speaker
How are you? I'm good. I'm really excited about my story today. I think this is the one I've been most excited about so far. Oh, I'm so excited. I just did a traditional ghost story, so I feel like yours is going to be a little bit more exciting this time around, but I
Lauren's Ghost Stories and Recommendations
00:00:41
Speaker
don't know. I love the paranormal. I'm a believer.
00:00:45
Speaker
It's true. It's true. And I have another, mine's like from Civil War times. So I feel like those kind of ghosts are classic. Classic. That's kind of ghost. In my hometown, we had like this big old house that always did a haunted house. And it was like, I think it was it used to be like a Civil War hospital or something like that. And so they really played on that theme. And it was very fun.
00:01:08
Speaker
That's I maybe it's exactly what I'm talking. It's not exactly where I'm talking max. I know where you grew up. Yeah, it's not Maryland No, but it's similar. It's a similar story. But before we jump into our stories We'll do some recommendations. Do you have one to start us off?
00:01:24
Speaker
Yeah, so recently I've been spending a lot of time rewatching Buffy the Vampire Slayer for my Buffy series on YouTube. So that's taking up most of my time. But I did watch the first two episodes of the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
00:01:41
Speaker
the newest and final season. I just like the aesthetic of that show. I don't even care if the rest of the show is terrible. The aesthetic and the vibes get me through. I want to wear every outfit on the show. I want to live in every house and set on the show. It's so beautiful.
00:02:03
Speaker
I know I have to give it another chance. I never finished the first season. And it's one of my more shameful things. I know, I know. It's kind of what I did. Yeah, it's kind of what I did with Haunting of Hill House, though, where I feel like I like didn't love it my first time around.
Movie Talk: 'Promising Young Woman' and More
00:02:19
Speaker
I feel like I need to go back and like, give it a real shot.
00:02:22
Speaker
You know what I'm about to do a rewatch of that I didn't like originally, but so many people love? Have you ever seen the Blackcoats' daughter? Yes, we watched it together and we both fell asleep. That's why, oh my God. How embarrassing. How embarrassing. Yes, I know I make so little impression on you. No, we've watched a lot of movies together to be fair.
00:02:44
Speaker
And I will say we've also fallen asleep to a lot of movies together. Yes, it's actually our finest work I think is falling asleep to very scary movies. Immediately pass out as blood and gore are on screen. Yes, like Blade is like sort of a sleepy memory to me. Oh god no, it's awful, we're awful. But yes, like I was totally bored by that movie, but I've heard so many people say they love it so much.
00:03:09
Speaker
And they voted on it for Hornaby Club on YouTube, so I am watching it this coming week, and I'm going to watch it during the day, but I'm not sleepy, ideally, maybe with a cup of coffee. I might have to rewatch it this week, too. You should go to the Hornaby Club and see what you think. Yes, I love that. I have the biggest recommendation because I actually, so I am,
00:03:36
Speaker
not in New York City right now. I won't even reveal where I am. How mysterious is that? But I got to go to a movie theater and I know that sounds scary, but we were the only two people in the movie theater and it's the most magical experience. Yes. And I saw a promising young woman.
00:03:54
Speaker
And it was just so good. I can't wait for you to see it. All I've heard is raving reviews. And I knew from when that first trailer came out, I said, this is the movie for me. But of course, if you don't know, New York, the theaters are shut down. I am still here. So that's not an option yet. But I think they're probably going to put it on VOD pretty quickly because I feel like they've done a quick turnaround with most movies from this year because it's like, you know,
00:04:22
Speaker
They're not making as much in the theatres, obviously. But yeah, if you had to describe it in a couple words, your experience. The truth is that I don't want to tell you the biggest thing. No, because I think I really thought it would be one thing, and it is mostly like that one thing.
00:04:44
Speaker
and then I did not realize like the other thing and so I don't want to tell you but um because I think it'll just uh I love a surprise I guess okay so I'll I'll say this in the this will be the simplest way possible like it's more than just like a fun girl getting vengeance kind of movie okay that's I really yeah I really thought it was gonna be kind of like
00:05:09
Speaker
an enjoyable and smart girl getting revenge kind of thing and it's really not. There's a lot of layers and it's really good and the cast is incredible. You can tell that from the trailer too but it's just really, really good. That's awesome because one worry I did have about it was that it would be potentially a little one note Nancy and a little
00:05:32
Speaker
We're a feminist movie, you know? Exactly. Which I probably still would have loved anyway, but like I wanted to, you saying that there's more layers to it makes me more excited. Yes. And that's, I think, yeah, that was my biggest takeaway for sure. And then my other thing that I don't even think I'm going to recommend I just watched was a movie called Fat Man. That's Mel Gibson as Santa Claus. And I can't really believe we're still letting Mel Gibson do things, I guess.
00:06:01
Speaker
Is this a recent film? Yes, yes, a recent film. A recent film where he plays Santa Claus and I had a good time. It's just like shocking to me that it exists. You should just look at it. You should watch the trailer after we finish this podcast. I can't even find it on IMDB.
00:06:20
Speaker
Yeah, it's called Fat Man as one word. Oh wait, never mind, it's one word, I see, I see. One word like Batman. One word like Batman. But just an interesting new take on Santa Claus. Not for me, but there is one really incredible scene. Actually, there are a couple incredible scenes, but mostly I just was like, oh wow, this is happening, I guess. That's wild. And the fact that I've heard nothing about it is also hilarious.
00:06:48
Speaker
I know. I was going to say, I don't know who has hidden it from the world. The world? But anyway, those are sort of my recommendations this week. Oh, wait. Can I tell you one more thing? Just because I found it hilarious. So I'm in season five of Buffy right now, and there is an episode where this character comes on screen, and I said, oh my god. Because I've seen Buffy many times, OK? But I haven't watched it all the way through in a few years. I said, oh my god. Is that Amy Adams?
00:07:19
Speaker
Was it? Yes. I looked at her IDP and it is Avie Adams. She has like a very small role. This is like in the late 90s. A very small role in season five of Buffy playing Tara's like sister in law, I guess. And she's just like this very kind of like uptight religious like
00:07:39
Speaker
like she's so she's also very um she's so young she's like really little like she's a kind of scrawny and she's just like very sweet looking and I was like oh little Amy Adams I love that I love celebrity cameos yeah she wasn't she was definitely not a slight yeah yeah like that I mean I guess I shouldn't use the word cameo I just mean like yeah when you like see early celebs
00:08:03
Speaker
Yes. Work. I don't know. Oh, that's awesome. Sorry. I swear we can move on after this. And also season one of Buffy, Claire Duvall, she plays an invisible girl in one of the episodes. So she's not even in it the whole time. She's just a voiceover most of the episodes. That's really amazing. That was great. I'm almost ready for a Buffy rewatch.
00:08:26
Speaker
It's honestly it's it's been really rewarding Stupid to say But I haven't because I just like pick out you know random episodes here and there if I feel like watching it But I haven't done a full rewatch probably in a few definitely in a few years at least probably four years and it is
00:08:47
Speaker
just as good. It's just as freaking good as it is every time I watch it, so. I have to make sure I'm emotionally prepared because the Angel stuff really, really wrecks me. Oh my God. And I just, I mean, so I'm doing a, one of my videos for my Buffy series is most emotional episodes and there's definitely some Angel moments in there. I just cried so much. Oh my God, so much crying.
00:09:12
Speaker
I also love Spike, but I've never been Team Spike for Buffy. It's so hard because I love Spike so much, but I also know they were not meant to be together, but I love him. He has the best character arc. It's so crazy. It's true. It is a good character arc. I just will always love Angel.
00:09:36
Speaker
Just like moody and tall brooding, tall brooding, all of it. But anyway, I'm so happy you're rewatching it. I love that. We're 10 minutes in talking about Buffy. Shall we? Yeah, we should get to our stories.
Hauntings of Carrington Plantation
00:09:51
Speaker
I'll go first if you're good with it. I would love it.
00:09:55
Speaker
Okay, great. I want to be spooked. So I'm doing the Carrington Plantation. So it is located in Franklin, Tennessee, which is a city just south of Nashville. And you can go and take tours of it today. So it's like still a
00:10:12
Speaker
you know, structure nowadays. It was built in 1826, and it was originally owned by former Nashville mayor, Randall McGavick, which I just like that last name. It sounds like a name. Yeah, right. A mayor last name. Also, whenever you say whenever anyone says plantation, I automatically think haunted.
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah, right? There's a lot of places. Unrest there, I do believe. I'm already in the mood.
00:10:46
Speaker
I have this. I have two different Southern accents. I don't know if you know this. I know the Deep South one. Yeah, my favorite is the Deep South one, which I'm going to do a shout out. We haven't done a shout out to him, maybe. Maybe we have. Our biggest fan, Andrew Hess. Oh my God. Are you listening? I hope he's listening. He's definitely listening. But we have this saying that's our old Southern woman saying that a lady never comments on the strength of her drink.
00:11:16
Speaker
As I'm drinking a margarita, which no idea what that means. We just at some point decided that like, why don't people have sayings anymore? Like, you know, when I die, people aren't going to be like, oh, Lauren always said this. So now they're going to say that saying up. Yeah, we made it up. Oh, I think it's great. Isn't it great? Is there one shot of tequila in here or is there five? Exactly.
00:11:41
Speaker
So anyway, I think Andrew actually came up with it. I shouldn't take credit, but we say it now all the time. So anyway, I won't do the Southern accent for this whole thing, but I might bring it out at choice moments. But anyway, this house.
00:11:58
Speaker
This giant plantation is a large two-story, 22-room, early 1800s brick mansion with seven white columns and a front porch on both stories. Beautiful. It's got a veranda in the back and a closed-in porch.
00:12:15
Speaker
It's huge. And throughout the 1800s, it was frequently visited, including by President Andrew Jackson, and it became one of the premier farms in the area. They were killing it. So Randall's son John inherited the farm upon his father's death and lived there with his wife, Carrie Elizabeth Winder, with their five children, three of whom died at young ages, although, as we have said,
00:12:41
Speaker
happened a lot at that time. It is interesting. People talk about seeing ghosts of the children, but mostly the ones that are commented on are the ones that lived longer, which I think is interesting. But anyway, so none of those, I guess you don't see ghost dead babies. That's awful. Well, honestly, thank goodness. Thank goodness. We can't stand. We can't handle that.
00:13:06
Speaker
But so beginning at 4 p.m. on November 30th, 1864, everything changed for the family, for the plantation. The Confederate Army of Tennessee assaulted the Federal Army along the southern edge of Franklin. And this resulting battle was one of the bloodiest hours of the entire Civil War. And it happened mostly in the dark and mostly at close quarters.
00:13:33
Speaker
big battle. But it lasted barely five hours and in that time 9,500 soldiers were killed, wounded, captured, or counted as missing. In five hours? Isn't that insane?
00:13:48
Speaker
I know, big bloody fight. Nearly 7,000 of that number were Confederate troops, and so Carnton, this plantation, served as a field hospital in the area for all of these Confederate soldiers. So hundreds of, I mean, I guess that's thousands.
00:14:08
Speaker
Thousands of Confederate soldiers were brought to the house during the battle and throughout the night after. And when the house was filled, they began filling the yard with these dying soldiers. The following morning, the dead bodies of four or five, in some stories, Confederate generals lay on the back porch and the floors of the house are still stained with the blood of those men to this day.
00:14:36
Speaker
I'm fascinated by it and I probably should have done more research to see if like they left it on purpose or if it's like just a situation they can't get rid of but apparently bloodstains are still visible in several rooms and some people say the heaviest are in the children's bedroom which was used as an operating room.
00:14:58
Speaker
I mean, that feels intentional because they could have just painted, right? Yeah, that's what I guess. I don't know. I know the weird thing to me is I understand now why people would want to see the blood stains and have it be preserved. But at the time, I don't know why they didn't do anything about it. Yeah, that's very interesting. And just continued living.
00:15:19
Speaker
But in early 1866, the McGavicks designated two acres of land adjacent to their family cemetery as a final burial place for nearly 1,500 Confederate soldiers. So those people are still buried there today, and you can still go to the McGavick Confederate Cemetery, and you can still see the gravestones of these soldiers.
00:15:46
Speaker
So the McGavick family owned this plantation until 1911, and then Susie Lee McGavick sold it. And in 1973, it was finally listed on the National Register of Historic Places. And then the house and the 10 acres were donated to the Carnton Associate Incorporation. Basically, it had fallen into disrepair. And at this time, this association sort of restored it and maintained the site.
00:16:15
Speaker
And now you can take tours of the plantation to this day. So now I'm going to get into the spooky. That's sort of the history section of all this. As you can tell, there was a lot of death in the house on the fields. It's supposedly one of the most haunted locations in Tennessee and maybe in the entire South.
00:16:38
Speaker
So let's get into some claims. Many people claim to have seen soldiers walking the fields, of course.
00:16:47
Speaker
The interesting thing to me is that they say that there's more sightings in the autumn months, which is like when the battle happened. But to me, it's also like probably when ghost tour kind of people go see it. And Halloween times. Exactly. Like I'm like, yeah, of course, like the people that are like, I believe in ghosts. I'm going to go at Halloween time and say that I saw a ghost. And also the tour guides being like, did you see that?
00:17:11
Speaker
Yes, exactly. Just like when we went to Salem. I feel like ghost tours in the fall really amp it up. Absolutely. As they should. Of course. Of course. So one of the more frequent sightings is the ghost of a woman floating on the back porch. Some say she's dressed in white, some say in a long pink gown,
00:17:33
Speaker
And many believe this to be Carrie McGabick, who is John's wife and the lady of the house during those civil war times. People also see fallen soldiers in the house itself. One supposedly lives in one of the bedrooms, or hangs out in one of the bedrooms, and he either died there or close by outside and is now kind of taken to haunting this room.
00:17:58
Speaker
But a picture of the mansion mysteriously crashed to the floor in this bedroom and was found on top of the floor heater, which I guess is a place that it couldn't get to by itself. So people are like, I don't know how the picture got from this side of the room to on top of the heater. So that's a little spooky. Another ghost is said to be that of an officer who paces the large front porch in the fall.
00:18:24
Speaker
And others this I think anything with the I don't know why the imagery of like the four or five generals like being dead on the porch in the morning is like so strong imagery.
00:18:36
Speaker
Yeah, so other people say that they've seen one of the generals riding a horse through the fields. And then as I said, there's also stories of the Carnton children themselves, especially I think the two that so there were two that were sort of helping with their parents with all these wounded soldiers.
00:18:57
Speaker
Do you think the family was like involved, like in helping the soldiers? It seems like it, at least from like what people say about the ghosts is that like they were, you know, at least like the, the wife or the, you know, Carrie was involved. Yeah.
00:19:19
Speaker
I don't know. I know. I know. It's like, it's a very interesting, I just can't imagine living in a house that's like full of wounded soldiers. Oh my God. Yeah. It's terrifying. And when it's like, there's no modern medicine, so I don't even know. Oh yeah. Just a bunch of people screaming in pain. Yeah. Sounds like a really scary place to be a kid. Amputations? Like I don't know. Oh my God.
00:19:44
Speaker
Um, let's see what else. So there's also, there have been sightings of a young girl who was killed. This is fascinating. People think she was killed before all of this civil war stuff. And the details are a little unclear, obviously, but, um, stories have been passed down that she rejected a suitor and he killed her in a jealous rage. And she said to still sweep the floors.
00:20:08
Speaker
I don't know. So she, this is like a random person. This is not a random, a random little girl. But I also like, does this mean that not a little girl, I should say a young woman, a young woman, promising young woman. Yes. Um, the, uh, curator or a former curator of the museum,
00:20:27
Speaker
Heard so this is still the the young girl heard some noises from the porch out back and went out to investigate and found two old panes of glass on either side of the back door which had been taken down from a box of panes located on a shelf and I guess broken
00:20:45
Speaker
Anyway, they think this is the work of this young girl ghost. And then people also have had sightings of the head cook who worked for the family during those Civil War years, floating in the hallway near the kitchen and also sometimes heard bustling around the kitchen doing her various duties.
00:21:03
Speaker
which I think we talked about before, but like that is the absolute saddest to me that you could be like a servant or, you know, more on the help side of things in your life and then be stuck doing that as a ghost. The sweeping for eternity is truly the worst. Yeah, that came up with the merchant house. It's just, yeah, that would be a big bummer. It's like even in your afterlife, you can't be the queen of the house. Oh, that's awful.
00:21:28
Speaker
Okay. And then just like I did with the woman in black, I'm going to do like a little, uh, specific account. So this is an account of a descendant of one of the fallen soldiers who visited the plantation later. Um, so this is, I'm actually really not sure when this was, but it has to, I feel like it was like nineties or early, like, or early two thousands, because it was a more modern, yeah, more modern telling for sure.
00:21:55
Speaker
So he arrived in the late afternoon after the mansion was closed to visitors for the day, and he decided to walk around and follow the path to the back. He spotted a silhouette of a man dressed in uniform about to mount a horse.
00:22:09
Speaker
As the man did this, his horse vanished. The visitor approached another man dressed as a Confederate officer on the back porch and asked what happened to his horse. The soldier stated this horse had been shot out from under this soldier, just like his had been earlier. He explained that without their horses, they were at the mercy of the enemy. He looked at the visitor and told him if he was going to stay, he would need his pistol or he wouldn't last long.
00:22:33
Speaker
The visitor then asked him what kind of gun he used. As the officer replied in detail, it slowly dawned on him that these men were not civil war reenactors, as he had first thought. He choked out he did not have a gun. The officer alarmed at his announcement, told him that he should quickly leave to get out of harm's way. The officer then turned to another spirit that stood nearby. Well, if we're going to die, let us die like men. He then threw his hat in the air forcefully and vanished.
00:23:01
Speaker
Oh, man, a strong gesture at the end. I just like the idea that they're like, I don't know that there's some sightings of ghosts where it's like you just saw like someone sweeping and then there's some where it's like you had an entire conversation. That's totally crazy. But then I also like the idea that like they had a conversation with him because they could tell that he was like a descendant
00:23:27
Speaker
Maybe. I mean, yeah, I feel like if you're a descendant of that soldier, then it probably you would be most susceptible to being able to see it for sure.
00:23:36
Speaker
Anyway, that's the Carnton plantation. That's so fun. I mean, fun, I know. It's a weird word to say, but it's always interesting when you have a house like that where it's a lot of different ghosts because so much that happened there versus just one spirit or whatever haunting the house. This is just lingering death.
00:23:58
Speaker
Yeah, and it is like as much as I say I don't because I really don't believe in ghosts per se. I think like like bad energy and like, you know, places that it's like so much death happened. I do think you can like feel that in the space.
00:24:14
Speaker
Yeah, because energy is like a real thing. And it makes sense that energy could get stuck somewhere, which I think makes a lot of sense. Yeah. And anything that's old hospital stuff, I think really freaks me out.
00:24:30
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, the scariest season of American Horror Story was clearly asylum. Yes, I am so with you. Any doctor. So that's like, truly for me, like for horror movie stuff, I feel like whenever it's like a hospital, it becomes so much more realistic than I'm just like, no. Yeah, no, I totally am with you. Well, good story. Good job. Thank you. I love and that's also such like a fun, like,
00:24:58
Speaker
time period for ghosts. I know that sounds silly, but like that's like all the reenactments and like ghost tours and stuff like are like Civil War era. I think that's really fun. I love Civil War era everything except for racism. Except for the racism.
00:25:18
Speaker
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The Reincarnation of Dorothy Edie
00:25:36
Speaker
My story is very different. I'm going to be talking about a reincarnation story. Oh, yeah. And I've heard a few reincarnation stories that I've been pretty honestly convinced by. This one I just found on... Where was I on? I think I was literally on Rinker, like the graveyard shift side of Rinker. I don't know if you ever scroll through that website, but
00:26:02
Speaker
But I found this story of this woman named Dorothy Edie. And I couldn't believe I'd never heard of it because it's such a documented case.
00:26:15
Speaker
So she basically she was born in London in 1904. And I'm going to kind of say the blunt version of it and then really go into the story. But she claims to be the reincarnation of a priestess in the cult of Isis in ancient Egypt. So she was born in the 1900s and she was claiming that she was a reincarnated priestess from ancient Egypt. Okay.
00:26:40
Speaker
seems specific, seems a little out there, right? Yes, very specific, very out there. Yeah, like I'm not sure I would believe that until you hear the whole story. Okay.
00:26:52
Speaker
So Dorothy Louise Edie was born in London, 1904. She was born to a lower middle class family, and I think her dad was a tailor. And she basically, her life started off a little rough. So at the age of three, she fell down a flight of stairs, and she was pronounced dead.
00:27:15
Speaker
had drama yeah so truly pronounced dead by a doctor and the family was grieving came back into the bedroom where her body was laying she was up and playing with her toys
00:27:29
Speaker
That is wild. That's so scary, right? She had no pulse. She was pronounced fully dead. And then somehow when they were out of the room, came back to life worrisome, right? And so as she's only three, but she starts talking and everything, she starts developing some strange behavior.
00:27:51
Speaker
The first thing is that she spoke in a bit of an accent, which they couldn't really identify. And it wasn't a speech impediment. She was truly speaking in some sort of accent, which they thought was quite strange. And she kept telling her mother that she wanted to go home. And her mom would say, honey, you are home. She's like, no, my real home. I want to go home home. And she's like, honey?
00:28:19
Speaker
And she also told her mother that she would have these very vivid dreams every single night about this beautiful garden that she would be walking around in. And it was like her paradise, and that was her home. This garden is where she needed to get to. So they're like, oh, okay, a little spooky. And I feel like this has actually happened
00:28:42
Speaker
quite a bit. It even happened in my own family. My brother said some strange things. I think I've told you this story before. I was going to say, I was like, I know someone I know has a story like this, but it's you. It's me. So when my brother, who's the middle child, when he was a toddler, he was always talking about when he was an old man.
00:29:04
Speaker
So he would say, oh, when I was an old man, I used to have something like this. Oh, when I was an old man, I used to have something like this. And one day he was like, do you know where my bifocals are? And my mom was like, how do you possibly even know what that word means?
00:29:21
Speaker
And he was like, my bifocals. I had them when I was an old man. And I've asked my mom about this. And I said, did you discourage him? And she was like, no, we honestly just were not encouraging it. But we would ask questions. And he would have some answers. But eventually, he just kind of stopped mentioning it. And it kind of just went away. But I was like, awesome.
00:29:44
Speaker
That's just so it just feels again, like so out of the blue and like specific and random. And it's like, how could he come up with that? Yeah, exactly. It's like, how could they possibly come up with that? So she has some similar stuff going on back to Dorothy. And it all kind of, you know, comes to a head, I guess is the phrase. So she's four years old.
00:30:09
Speaker
and her parents take her to visit the British Museum. And while she's there, there is an exhibit on ancient Egypt, and she sees a photograph of what's the New Kingdom Temple,
00:30:22
Speaker
And she, as a four-year-old, calls out, this is my home. Where are the trees? Where are the gardens? Because it's obviously like the picture of it is in ruins, of course, because it's very old. And it was a temple of Seti I, the father of Ramesses the Great. Did I say Ramesses right? I haven't studied Egypt in quite some years.
00:30:46
Speaker
You're fun. I'm sure it's fine. So after she sees this photo, she starts running around the halls of the Egyptian rooms and she starts kissing all the statues feet. Okay, that's weird.
00:31:01
Speaker
as a four year old and they're trying to round her up and she's running around and she's like, I'm hope these are, but what's, it's all different. What's going on? And she's kissing the statue's feet and the parents are just like, Oh my God. And she didn't want to leave. She like, they could not pry her out of there. I mean, eventually they did, but
00:31:19
Speaker
She did not want to leave and she kept asking to go back and they had to visit the British Museum a bunch of times. And I think when she was around the age of 10, when she was there, because as soon as she saw this all, she became totally obsessed with ancient Egypt, obsessed, wanted to read every single thing about it, learn everything about it. And while I think she was age 10, she met this guy, E.A. Wallace Budge, who was an English
00:31:48
Speaker
Egypt Egyptologist and he was like oh it's so fun that she loves ancient Egypt and so he Kind of gave her the tools to start studying hieroglyphics whoa
00:32:00
Speaker
Yeah. She's in it now. She's in it. So we have a 10-year-old who truly believes that she is from this other world, ancient Egypt, this other time. She is studying hieroglyphics. She knows everything about ancient Egypt. And then when she is a young teenager at 14, she starts having these very vivid dreams about a sexual relationship that she believes that she had in her previous life.
00:32:29
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with SETI the first. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. And so she even Oh, she even has these like visions in which his mommy comes to her bedside and takes off her night dress. No, like they're very vivid.
00:32:48
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And she obviously, as she's talking about this, you know, people are like that scary. And she was not scared, though. She was like kind of obsessed with them like she. Yeah, and she just like thought all of it was real and it was all trying to tell her something.
00:33:05
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And it all made sense to her. So in her teen years, it really got so bad that her parents ended up committing her to a couple of sanatoriums. So she was kind of in and out of those. But no matter what kind of treatment she got, she refused to
00:33:25
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say that she was lying or that she made it up. She was like, this is the truth. This is the truth. And at age 16, she dropped out of school. And then I'm not really sure. There's kind of a gap in her history that I'm not really sure about from 16 to her late 20s. I don't really know what went on then. But we're going to keep it quiet. She was chilling. She was chilling. I don't know.
00:33:50
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She was just having her own inner dreams and not telling anyone. Yes, just having some sexual experiences in her dreams with an ancient mummy.
00:33:58
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OK, so but this whole time, by the way, she is she is still studying ancient Egypt and is like totally into it. So when she's twenty seven, she starts working in London at an Egyptian public relations magazine and she's right. Yes. So it totally makes sense. She's writing articles. She's drawing cartoons for them and in particularly cartoons about her political support for
00:34:28
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Egypt becoming independent. And while she is there working at this magazine, she meets Amman Abdel Migwid, hope I said it right, who was an Egyptian student literally like from Egypt. And once he went home, they talked a lot and they fell in love and they ended up getting married. So about who she thought she was. I'm unclear about
00:34:56
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that, but it does get a little rocky because of all of this. I will say that. So in 1931, she moves to Egypt to marry him, basically.
00:35:11
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Once she gets there, so she arrives in Egypt, she's finally there. What I assume is for the first time, but I could be wrong about that. She kisses the ground as she gets there. She says she's home. She's come home to stay forever. She's home now, finally. The couple ends up staying in Cairo, and they have a son who, of course, they name Seti.
00:35:34
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No. That's weird. It gets weirder. She then changes her own name. I don't know if legally or just as a nickname, but she is then, at this point through the rest of her life, kind of known as Om Seti, which means mother of Seti. Oh, man. Her whole identity. Yeah, it's her whole identity. She's all about it.
00:35:59
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So in her early years of marriage, she is still having a lot of very vivid dreams and memories about her time in ancient Egypt and all that. And at some point, she starts having these, I don't even know what to call them experiences, where while she'll kind of wake up in the middle of the night,
00:36:21
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and but not be fully awake, kind of be like almost in a trance state and start scribbling in hieroglyphics. Oh, no, super spooky. And what she said. Yeah. And so when she woke up, what she said was happening is that the God Hara was coming to her in her dreams to tell her about her past life.
00:36:44
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And so by the end of these dreams, she had like 70-ish pages full of hieroglyphics outlying her entire history. And so here's the history. Here's who she thinks she is. Which also is weird that at whatever age she was, that was the time. Yeah, she's already in her 30s by now.
00:37:10
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Okay, so she claims to be the reincarnation of a girl named Ben Trichette, which I'm sorry if I said that wrong.
00:37:19
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this girl in ancient Egypt was abandoned as a child and was raised at the Temple of Seti I. And by the way, this is the building that she pointed out at that British Museum when she was a four-year-old. So she says that she was raised there. And as she grew up, she kind of had to decide whether she was going to get married or become a priestess.
00:37:45
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in the temple. So she decided to become a priestess, a priestess of Isis. And as a priestess, you're supposed to be a virgin forever, basically. You take a vow of some sort. You're supposed to be a virgin. But Seti, I guess, was sneaking in her room. They started to have a romantic relationship. And eventually, she became pregnant with Seti's child.
00:38:11
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Oh man. Yeah. And so basically once they found out she was pregnant, she was going to have to stand trial. And what she basically knew was going to happen is she was probably going to be put to death. So even though she was pregnant and very young, she committed suicide. Oh, that's so sad. It is so sad. So she could die by her own hand basically.
00:38:34
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Um, so that is kind of the story that she believes is her past life. And, um, and then it gets a little more convincing. So, okay. If people, I wonder if people have done, I mean, I'm sure you're getting there. If people have like done research to see if this was really a person.
00:38:55
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Well, you probably can't, right? Like, you're not going to need the priestesses, probably, because they're just probably not documented. But I'll tell you why it gets a little convincing. So great.
00:39:05
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One, I think she's probably in her 50s by this point. She starts working with the National Department of Antiquities. And while she is there, she might not actually be in her 50s yet, but I can't remember, 40s, 50s. She publishes a bunch of books and articles, and it becomes very respected in the Egyptian
00:39:32
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I hope I said that right, I'm clear. Because her work was amazing. They could not believe how detailed it was and how much she just knew. That was verified, that could be verified.
00:39:48
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And she was known to do some strange things, such as spend nights alone inside the great pyramid of Giza, lay offerings at the feet of the Sphinx. The locals were a little frightened of her, honestly. But in the academic world, she was actually pretty admired, which is interesting.
00:40:14
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I mean, I guess she really found her, her little niche. Yeah. Okay. And then in her fifties, here we are, she gets the opportunity to work with some excavators at the study, the first temple where she says that she was raised and died. And when she is working there, she shows them where the garden once was.
00:40:43
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And they start to dig. And they find the garden. And she knew exactly where it was. That's flipping crazy. I know. And there's more. They also, when they brought her into the temple, they had another gyptologist that's, I've got to be saying that wrong, describe different, so there's paintings all over the walls. And he would describe one of the paintings.
00:41:13
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and then ask her to show him where it was. And every time she would lead him to the painting, even though she had never been there, she said, it's over here. It's over here. That's really freaky. I know. And there is also another one where she said that there was some sort of tunnel under the temple that she also said was there. They found it exactly where it was. And
00:41:41
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But basically, all of her contributions to not only this excavation, but also her contributions to Egyptology are just undeniable. Academics, they kind of do frown on the fact that she says she's reincarnated, like some of them do, but her work holds up.
00:42:02
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That's really wild. Yeah. And in 1981, which was the year she died, unfortunately, but she had to die. She was getting quite old. They featured her in National Geographic in this documentary called Egypt Quest for Eternity.
00:42:20
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So, that was nice that she was remembered. And in 81, I think there was even a New York Times article that I found online that came out about her and just her reincarnation story and how legit it seemed to be. She was buried in the garden of her own yard.
00:42:40
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because I don't really have a clear understanding of this but there was she was very devoted to her religion of ancient Egypt and like
00:42:55
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her gods and all that. And so she couldn't be buried in like a Christian graveyard or this other graveyard. And so they ended up just burying her in her own yard, which I thought was a little strange, but it's fine.
00:43:12
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That is also like a little sad. I thought you were going to be like, she was buried in the, in the pier. No, unfortunately not. Um, but yeah, that would be crazy. Um, but yeah, that's kind of her story. And so, yeah, there's just kind of all these Egypt.
00:43:36
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academics that have studied this their whole lives that are like, kind of like, okay, it's a little much that she says she's a reincarnated, but she kind of knows too much because she also just yeah, she had a lot of information that could then be proved that she kind of provided that has really helped with the further understanding of ancient Egypt, especially in terms of people's lifestyle at the time as well, like the common person's lifestyle. But she stayed married?
00:44:13
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I think it did kind of happen around the time of all the hieroglyphics scribbling. It became a bit much for him and also his family, and they ended up getting divorced. And she got custody, I'm pretty sure she had custody of her son because they talk about her raising him. But yeah, so but around that. Yeah. But yeah, and that's the story. And that's kind of like I said, there's been a couple reincarnation stories that I've heard that just
00:44:29
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Oh, I forgot to say the sad part. They got divorced.
00:44:42
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It's such an almost unbelievable thing to think about, but at the same time, there's all these stories where it's just like, well, how could they know? How could she know where the garden was? Unless her soul was there. Yeah. It's weird to me from the standpoint of like, does she think that we are all reincarnated, but we just aren't in touch with it? Like that's what always gets me. I don't think so. She thinks she's the only one.
00:45:10
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I don't know if she thinks she's the only one, but I don't know. I don't have that information, honestly. But I will say one thing that I think is really interesting about this story is some of the other reincarnation stories I've heard are about someone being reincarnated around the time of the death of the person that they are being reincarnated as. Oh, yeah. Whereas this is like she was born in 1904.
00:45:38
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but the soul or whatever is ancient Egypt, which is a big gap, right? Yeah. So that's very different. But I mean, I'm always of the mind of this. There is no way I will ever understand how any of this works.
00:45:53
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It's truly a miracle that we're even here and I'm even alive on this planet. That's pretty crazy in and of itself. I can never say one way or the other whether she is truly reincarnated or not, but there seems to be a lot of evidence from a lot of smart people that say, seems likely. That's so crazy.
00:46:16
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I kind of like the idea of reincarnation, but mostly because I get overwhelmed at the idea that there are so many souls. Oh my God, so many souls. It would help if there were repeats. Somehow I've gotten on this TikTok spiral. That algorithm really knows me, but I've gotten a lot of near-death experience stories and paranormal stories about people who have died or were in a coma and have kind of experienced the other side.
00:46:45
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And it sounds, I mean, the stories I've heard are on TikTok. Who knows if they're true or not. But I love the idea of it. It's this like very peaceful, calm place where it's just like, they don't know where they are, but they just feel totally at ease.
00:47:01
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I'm just like, well, I hope that's true. There was one girl there that said she came out of her coma and she had been gone so long. She wanted to go back. She woke up and she was like, oh, I'm not supposed to be here anymore. I would like to go back. But they were like, no, you're awake. You're alive. That's pretty crazy.
00:47:23
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Yeah. My TikTok algorithm is getting pretty specific to my interest. I know. I actually was just talking to somebody about, like, I feel like TikTok now, like, I would like to just, like, be able to be like, I want to see Felicia, what Felicia sees on TikTok. Like, I want to be able to see what this person sees on TikTok. Do you like things? I do. Okay. I assume that helps. Mine's mostly like kids and puppies at this point.
00:47:51
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I do get a lot of puppies. I get a lot of puppies. I get a lot of like alternative girl fashion videos, which I do love. I need to get more of that. It's like little outfits. They're just like, here's an outfit. And I'm like, I love your outfit. Love it. Love it. Actually, I'm wearing a top right now that I saw on TikTok. I don't know if you can see it in the face. I like the color. But it's like an athletic. It's like supposed to be like a sports bra cami thing.
00:48:16
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Where is it from? I'll send it to you. It's Amazon. Let me the link. I'll send you the link. I love it. It's great to work out in. It's great to be casual in. I kind of want some of those crazy butt leggings. Have you seen those? Yep. I got a pair for Christmas from my loving boyfriend.
00:48:34
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Okay, your butt does not need help. But I think we had because we kind of got into tik tok at the same time. So it's just like, I mean, I think about them because they're so ridiculous. They're ridiculous. But I kind of want to pair just to see what they look like. Well, you can try mine on if you want.
00:48:53
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but I highly recommend. My butt looks great in them. I bet it does. Okay. I just feel like I can't wear them to like out. Like out and about just to get some groceries. Unless I'm wearing like a long shirt. Yeah. Oh my God. That's very funny. That's really funny.
00:49:12
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Well, thank you all for listening. Sorry, we just had a tangent. I know. Go buy some butt hugging leggings. Why not? You deserve it. And yeah, I think that's probably it for this week. Once again,
00:49:27
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