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93. Mugwort is a versatile bitch.
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An impromptu session of Soul Pod spellcrafting! Molly builds a banishing jar, and Christina creates a cleansing spray. <3
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Recording in the Morning
00:00:22
Speaker
Oh my god, hello. Fancy meeting you here. Why you do? I drink coffee. probably could use another of tea. We're doing morning recording. What?
00:00:35
Speaker
We're doing a morning recording. We've done literally like we could count the number of morning recordings we've done on one hand. Probably on two fingers. If we yeah if we've ever done a morning one, I don't even know. We have, I remember. i remember I'm pretty sure we recorded the episode about tattoos in the morning because you were off during that time last year and i feel like we might have done one other probably like in October of 2024 during your birthday weekend when we recorded like three episodes because you had the house to yourself yeah I'm pretty sure one of those was in the morning okay maybe
00:01:20
Speaker
But yeah, like, happy morning recording to you. morning recording to you as well. mean, we're also both not wearing black, so that's fun.
Challenges of Work and Sleep
00:01:32
Speaker
um Today was the first Friday with no routes, o but I still had to go into work because it was mandatory dry run day.
00:01:43
Speaker
Right. But then I had to come... to my dear friend's house and take a nap because I had no sleep last night. Yeah. Yeah. Just about. I was like, you were messaging me at like one in the morning. I was just like, don't you have to be at work in like four hours? Like what is going on?
00:02:04
Speaker
like i had to be up in three hours. but i actually, I ended up setting my alarm for four 30 and I and Um, cause I didn't have to be at work till 525 today, which is 10, 10 minutes later than my usual route. and Well, that's good. So I just did a quickie as quick as I could shower and yeah ran out the door and I had prepped the coffee. No, I didn't. No, I did not. I prepped the coffee two nights ago, not last night.
00:02:32
Speaker
Um, so this morning I had my, I took my coffee cup into work and filled it up in, in the lounge. We have a coffee maker in our kitchen lounge. Very nice. Lounge kitchen. Yeah.
00:02:46
Speaker
yeah Meanwhile, i am on.
Managing Time and Appointments
00:02:50
Speaker
i don't know. it did if I'm not sure whether to count my leave days from the very first day of leave being like Saturday, even though that was a weekend or from Monday when I would have gone back to work but didn't have to.
00:03:09
Speaker
a Uh, but depending on where you're counting from day five or day seven of leave. And so I, I woke up earlier. i woke up at like, like seven 45, I think. Cause that's when I saw your original messages this morning, but then I went back to bed and,
00:03:30
Speaker
ah woke up at like 10 15 and was just like, cause I thought for a second that I might've had an appointment this morning. Uh, because I've had appointments at 10 and 10 15 respectively the last two days.
00:03:47
Speaker
And so i was just like, ah, and then I remembered, Oh no, it's just recording. And we're recording at 11. So, i was like, whew. But I still got up.
00:03:59
Speaker
um Slowly, but I did.
Coffee and Setup Interruptions
00:04:03
Speaker
And I got myself coffee and while I waited for you ah to get on, get yourself set up, I ate frozen breakfast burritos.
00:04:15
Speaker
Well, microwaved, not still frozen. um Of course. Naturally. That'd be very hard to bite through. Break a lot of teeth. um But yeah, and I still have my iced coffee.
00:04:31
Speaker
And Jim's asleep in the other room, in his room, I think. He's either asleep or he's just watching TV. I don't know. I texted him and said that it I was recording and I don't know if he's going to see it before he tries to barge in here. But the door is closed, so we'll see.
00:04:47
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oh
00:04:50
Speaker
So we may have a Jim interruption later. But he is fine. I don't know.
00:05:02
Speaker
Morning recording.
00:05:06
Speaker
Anyway, who you have you have a thing you want to talk
Herb Enthusiast Confessions
00:05:10
Speaker
about. Yeah, don't know what my deal is. Like, I am so...
00:05:18
Speaker
i don't i can't say what I want to say because you're just going to tell me to shut up. what do you mean? so bad about using my herbs that I own. I'm so bad about it. I don't use them. Like that was like most witches. They're just like, you know, so excited to get an herb and then they're just like, you know, we we don't end up using them as quickly as we expect or as often. And I don't know. That's like, you're not bad, but I also relate.
00:05:54
Speaker
So it's, it's funny because for some odd reason, i don't remember why at this point, but a while back I threw my little pouch of mugwort into my box that has all my recording equipment in it, minus the laptop. But like, and I have like a pad of paper and a pen in there and I have like reading glasses in there.
Podcast Equipment and Philly Memories
00:06:14
Speaker
But like, um,
00:06:16
Speaker
Essential podcasting yeah needs included mugwort for some reason. No, not really. But it's funny because now that I'm telling you what's in this box, I know exactly why this other stuff is in here.
00:06:33
Speaker
okay. Because do you remember where we were almost one year ago today? Yeah. We were heading anyway. We weren't quite, we weren't there yet, but we were heading. I was there.
00:06:47
Speaker
i was already there. Two days in advance? Well, it was 19th. Was it? I'm pretty sure I went down on Thursday night because, yeah, I did. Okay. It was Thursday night. um It was Juneteenth. I already had that day off work because we get Juneteenth. um And I just took the Friday, so I got an extra long weekend. And, ah yeah, I went down, and that's Sierra flew in that evening, and we stayed at a hotel. Okay.
00:07:19
Speaker
I forgot that part. Yeah. So I was already, um I was, I guess I was driving down still at this time of the day. yeah i was on my way. I was about halfway there to Philly for our solstice weekend that we had a year ago. yes Yes, yes. So I don't know. I don't remember if we did a whole ass episode about that for the regular public. um No, I think that was our bonus. Yeah. Yeah. So anyhow, um what I was supposed
Bumper Stickers and Mailing
00:07:54
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to bring with me that day were some cool ass bumper stickers to hand out. And I forgot them. Oh, Oh, God. so I asked everybody there while we were there if they wanted one or not, and most of them said yes. And so I had gotten, like, some envelopes and a little pad of, it's like, i don't know what you call that.
00:08:20
Speaker
It's a thick little notepad, if you will. Yeah, notepad. And it has, like, all the colors in it. who Are they sticky or? No. no Okay. It's regular regular writing.
00:08:32
Speaker
Gotcha. You continue talking. I'm just going to show you something. Okay. So I had like written everybody a note and stuck a bumper sticker oh right in an envelope and sent those off. And I think I did six or seven of those. I just ended up keeping what I didn't use for envelopes in this box.
00:08:56
Speaker
And that pouch of, um, yeah, mine's are not lined. I could see that yours is lined, but mine's not lined. But this is this is separate ones. ah They're all separate. Oh, different colors Yeah, and these are sticky, and I've been using them for um for work stuff. They just, there's just a stupid little pile, and oh my god, I'm gonna just take a picture and show you, um, like, ridiculous.
Chaos of Sticky Notes
00:09:22
Speaker
Here's my iron supplements. It's a mess over here. What the fuck?
00:09:25
Speaker
Um,
00:09:28
Speaker
myths I have over here of just like random because it like the problem with using these for work is that like I write something down I'm like wait I'm going to need to remember this next week and so like I have to hold on to the page but then I run out of page and so i have to tear it off or like pull it off and start a new one and I have to keep all the random scattered pages so I'm just taking a picture so you can see This bullshit that I have.
00:10:00
Speaker
um Oh my god. Sorry, this is a sidebar to your sidebar. Yeah, it's okay. um Please send. Go, go, go. Okay, I just sent it to you.
00:10:12
Speaker
So you can see the stupidity that is my ADHD brain at work. My bad, I'm sorry. Oh my god, I'm sitting here clearing my throat while you're talking. It's okay. Oh yeah, that's funny. That's how it usually looks.
00:10:27
Speaker
Well, I don't want it to, but right lately, yes. Okay. And you can probably even see like one of those is not even work related because it's like my Netflix. Oh, no. I didn't zoom in close enough to read it.
00:10:40
Speaker
oh my God. That's funny. But, yeah. It's just like, why the fuck did I do that to myself? One of my things that I'm going to sometime in the next few weeks is go through all this shit and write down the important things that I need for personal. Like I'm not going to need any of the work stuff for now going forward. Cause everything's going to be different when I go back, but like my personal stuff, like the Netflix information or like various, you know, health insurance stuff. Um,
00:11:09
Speaker
write all that down in a place that I'm actually gonna you know be able to keep and then clear it all up but yeah yeah no this is just a just a little notepad it says assorted colors notepad unruled it might have come from the dollar store or something oh probably yeah I don't remember yeah anyway um Yeah, so I had that stuff in there.
00:11:41
Speaker
And then I threw my pouch of mugwort in there as well. Right, right. um But yeah, it made me... Was it... Did you get the mugwort while we were there? Because we had a little bit of like a like a witchy stuff swap. Oh, right. No, I didn't. um I bought that from one of my local metaphysical stores. Ooh.
00:12:08
Speaker
I don't think I took you to that one. it's I mean, it was the the only ones that I remember going to was ones that were open in 2019 because I don't think I went I don't think we went to any witchy stores except for the one random one where I got those oils.
00:12:28
Speaker
Oh, yeah. ah But that was like, then
Local Shop Review: The Crystal Cauldron
00:12:31
Speaker
you got a reading there. Yeah, and that was kind of like out of the way. Like it wasn't one of your usual places that you would go to. From what I remember.
00:12:38
Speaker
and it's closed now. Oh, yeah. But yeah, otherwise, like the only ones I've been to in your area were ones that we went to in 2019. Unrelated, I also found this. I don't know if you can read it. Bitch Citation?
00:12:56
Speaker
Yes. You are such And then whatever. I can't read the... Giant list. I took a picture. I'm going to send it to you to look at later. Because it's kind of funny. It's entertaining. Is it a... It's a notepad.
00:13:11
Speaker
Oh. Of like... You just like... you know, check off your, ah your options. You are such a, for example, lazy bitch or ugly bitch or bossy bitch, okay
00:13:30
Speaker
et cetera. There's like, like a hundred options on here. um That's funny. But you check it off and then you rip it off and hand it to the person who's the bitch. Oh, I see. So citation, like a ticket.
00:13:43
Speaker
Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Yep. had that forever. Anyway, continue. If the shop was called the Crystal Cauldron and it's up, I just looked it up. um In case anybody is in the area and wants to go there, it's pretty cool.
00:14:02
Speaker
It's probably my favorite one right now, but this one is out of the way like significantly. And this is where you got your mugwort, to be clear. where i got my mugwort and a whole bunch of other um Like, do they have like a nice big selection of herbs or something?
00:14:18
Speaker
Oh, Oh, yes. Very nice. I have actually written a review on the Google Maps ah thing for... Oh, to praise them. From two years ago.
00:14:30
Speaker
and i said, they have everything. i love this little shop. Nice. Yeah, she's got one area that's like a small room in the back that has giant jars. Oh.
00:14:42
Speaker
ming giant jars like I think they might be mason type jars but yeah full of different herbs and she's got everything there my favorite local place here used to have their herbs set up like that with giant jars and then a little scale and like ziploc bags
Witchcraft Uses of Mugwort
00:15:01
Speaker
and even little like strips of paper to be able to write down like what the herb is and what the weight is then you could weigh out you know the amount that you wanted and um
00:15:17
Speaker
and buy it that way. They now switch to, they like prepackaged things to like a certain weight um and just sell them like in those prepackages with little labels that like not only say what the herb is, but like the the uses for it. Nice. um So you don't have to like do all that yourself. But I kind of, even though I appreciate the convenience now, like I did also really enjoy being able to like weigh things out myself. Yeah.
00:15:44
Speaker
um So you wanted to talk about Mugwort for what reason? I don't think you got to the to the pinnacle of what you were. i also didn't ever get back to saying where the Crystal Cauldron was. i was going to do that. Oh, yeah. The town.
00:16:02
Speaker
So the crystal Crystal Cauldron is where I got all my herbs and I sent Molly the link to the Google Maps. Did the did the picture show up with all the jars? Yes. It's very, very satisfying to look at. It's cool.
00:16:16
Speaker
Anyway, the place is on Auburn Road in Rochester Hills, Michigan. Okay. But yeah, if anyone's... For anybody in the area. You can Google it yourself and find the address and stuff.
00:16:28
Speaker
Love it. Love it. The Crystal Cauldron. And it's been owned and run by this one particular woman for as long as I have known about the store. So I think she started it many years ago on her own and, you know, has kept it up, which I'm glad because a lot of these places tend tend to go out of businesses, tend to go out of business. Right. um So I'm glad she's still there.
00:16:55
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. um Yeah. One day I went in there and I bought a whole bunch of different herbs and mugwort was one of them. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:06
Speaker
But I was just thinking about it and I was like, you know, I'm like, I need to start using my stuff and I don't know what the hell to do with it, honestly. Right. Right. um So I'm going to Google it real quick and I'm going look at some things and talk about that.
00:17:21
Speaker
Talk about whatever I find, I guess. Okay. Okay.
Mugwort in Dreams and Spells
00:17:25
Speaker
spells in general in in particular i mean not in general i'm still i'm still half asleep for my nap i think i'm really sorry oh my god mugwort spell uses well i could read what the ai says no and then i could read like i could click on a picture that has like different things on it
00:17:52
Speaker
Medicinal properties, magical properties, blah, blah, blah. But I don't want to, I don't want to imitate too much of another podcast that we like.
00:18:05
Speaker
Lucid, lucid dreaming and astral travel.
00:18:11
Speaker
That's not a spell, but anyway, placing mud, mud. It is a type of magic. It's a type of magic, but it's not a spell. Yeah, I would. I would. Maybe, maybe you could. incorporated into a spell that would be intended to create a lucid dream or astral travel anyway well right exactly and i guess i'm also sort of thinking of divination which i think mugwort is also good for yeah um which i also consider even if it's not like a spell in a conventional sense uh it's a type of magic for sure yeah um placing mugwort under your mattress or in a sleep pillow is um Believed to induce lucid dreams, astral projection, and vivid spiritual messages.
00:18:55
Speaker
Dream recall. Many users on Reddit agree that drinking it as a tea before bed helps significantly enhance dream recall. I always thought it actually enhanced the dream experience, like the lucid dream experience as well. So not just placing it under your pillow, but like actually ingesting it.
00:19:15
Speaker
um Divination and psychic ability. It helps enhance focus by burn burning my word as incense is believed to sharpen intuition and psychic abilities before scrying, tarot readings, or trance work.
00:19:30
Speaker
So I am reading the AI stuff. I'm really sorry, but that's like what, that's what came up first. So I'm just reading it. Yeah. Because Google fucking evil. Yeah.
00:19:41
Speaker
Anyway. Sorry. i was trying to mute and I didn't mute it in time. Um,
00:19:49
Speaker
For tool cleansing, practitioners wash crystal balls, pendulums, and tarot decks in a strong mugwort infusion to cleanse and amplify their divinatory power. I wonder if that means that they like use a mugwort infused soap or if they ah just like use like powdered mugwort and just like dust it.
00:20:12
Speaker
Crystal balls, pendulums, and tarot decks. Well, you can't use a liquid on a tarot deck, so I'm not sure. yeahs aren you could use liquids on mine. Yeah, it's plastic.
00:20:25
Speaker
Plastic cards, those are Most of them, no, yeah. um But also, you could burn it and use the smoke. True. is it Very true. Cleanse.
00:20:38
Speaker
Indeed. Protection and banishing. It's good for warding, historically hung over doorways or worn as protective amulets. Mugwort is used to banish negative energy and keep malevolent entities away. It's a summer solstice lore, which how fucking fitting. How fitting. Associated with the Feast of St. John. It was traditionally worn as a protective belt.
00:21:04
Speaker
during solstice dances and tossed into bonfires to provide protection for the coming year. Nice. Very good. love it.
00:21:16
Speaker
So i latched onto one of those ideas. Okay. and I kind of like the idea of coming up with a little spell using my wart as like a key ingredient ah But like I was inspired by one of the ways that mugwort can be used, like one of the magical uses, and that was banishing.
00:21:47
Speaker
I like that. I like ah it's for sure. It's like a defensive type of magic, but I like it and the idea of it being like a little bit aggressive. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:00
Speaker
Yeah. I might need to start incorporating some of this stuff into my life a little bit more. Well, right. Exactly. um And so like I'm just thinking through because I'm like, man, and what kind of thing would I want to make? Would I want to just like do like a full like jar spell or would I want to create like ah like a vanishing like powder or something?
Creating a Banishing Spell
00:22:26
Speaker
um You know, and like there are options.
00:22:31
Speaker
We got options. Okay. Yeah. when like so what like like What I mean is um that like i'll i' I'm like literally just starting to construct an idea in my head okay right now. Make some notes.
00:22:52
Speaker
Right, exactly. Let me grab my one of my blank notepads. Come here, purple notepad. pen. Okay.
00:23:01
Speaker
and pen
00:23:04
Speaker
banishing spell. um
00:23:13
Speaker
What about you? would you want to use it for? um i I think I might try to make a tea or smoke it. For what purposes? Just so because for to enhance my intuition and potentially dream work.
00:23:35
Speaker
Mmm. Dreamy, dreamy. Yeah. I do like the idea of the protection and banishing stuff. the Yeah. Warding, if you will. Yeah, absolutely.
00:23:47
Speaker
i feel like, i feel like I need more warding in my life in general. Yeah. Maybe this will be something that I actually like put to use, but, um, But yeah, so naturally, mugwort being top of the list of ingredients.
00:24:01
Speaker
there's I did a quick search for like other banishing ingredients, and some of the ones that I really like are cedar, and I know that i I'm pretty sure I have some.
00:24:13
Speaker
love cedar, the smell of cedar. Basil. Gallic. Are you saying garlic with the Boston accent? Yes. Just making sure.
00:24:26
Speaker
Pine. Oh, yeah.
Pine in Magic and Cleaning Products
00:24:29
Speaker
Pine. OMG, pine. Or you could use gin as a stand-in liquid.
00:24:37
Speaker
True. Very true. Sage, ooh. Sage is obvious because, like, sage is the ultimate, like, cleansing um tool.
00:24:52
Speaker
You know, and herb ingredient. um And, like, it is, it's one of the things that some people don't like to use because it gets rid of everything. um rather than like burning yeah if like for example if you burn rosemary it gets rid of the baddies but like lets the nice things stay but sage just gets rid of fucking everything sage is like the witch's like cosmic bleach
00:25:25
Speaker
um that did you just come up with that yourself or did you read that i've definitely heard of it referred to as like leech before whats salt is another one here ah and oh on this list it's it's a list of it says banishing herbs but this isn't an herb it's just like a point like a piece of a plant thorns oh nice i like it though yeah Yeah.
00:25:57
Speaker
And then like some other things, cause I'm just sort of like thinking about it, like vinegars of some kind. um I know that like the four thieves vinegar oil is like a common thing, but I've never actually fought properly like used it, but I know that that's like a little bit more of like a protection rather than a banishment kind of vibe. Um, but,
00:26:22
Speaker
I'm just thinking of like straight up like like a white vinegar. Just something like... That tastes nasty. Lemons is another one. Not intended for edible things. Yeah, this is not an edible type of spell. Lemons or lemon juice would be another good one to use.
00:26:49
Speaker
Probably like you know, an anointing oil that I already have that like, you know, I've not created my own anoint anointing oils. i absolutely would like to, um or any kind of oil infusions at all. But I have like a couple that I got from this website called Art of the Root. And I think they're still in business. and i just looked something up about Mugwort and that was a link to yeah not a link to them. Okay, good yeah
00:27:21
Speaker
um yeah so like i bought some oils from them and i love them and so i think that like i would want to use a couple oils that i have that's theirs they have an oil called fiery wall of protection o um and they have an oil that's called like some hecate oil and so i guess it's like for invoking hecate yeah um um And I would absolutely like to do that. So I'm going to write those down. Fiery wall, oil, Hecate, if I can type or write.
00:28:01
Speaker
i can I can type, I'm just not typing right now. so I don't know why I said type. Hecte oil. ah You know what's kind of funny, though? Because on this list that i of the herbs, ah pine is on there. And i love it. I love like tree scents. Yeah. um Obviously, which is why I like chose cedar and pine. Yeah, yeah. From this list. But ah I also love the fact that like pine saw...
00:28:33
Speaker
is like still like one of the like or is it goes by like one of the original ah ingredients lists like the classic pine saw and it's like an old old like recipe for that cleaning solution yeah and it has like pine distilled oils in it naturally um And it like to me, I'm like, I feel like just using Pine Sol is like.
00:29:09
Speaker
Working some magic. It's like it's like witchy inherently. yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah Yeah. And so like, yeah I could see, you know, regardless of what you're using this, like, again, i'm I'm not sure I think what I'm creating is a jar spell here, because like, it's just sort of i don't think I'm going to do anything with this necessarily.
00:29:32
Speaker
But like, putting all of the like essential elements into it. And I think that like a dollop of pine saw would be pretty, ah powerful, um, and make it smell real nice. yeah Um, so I'm going to write that down pine saw. And that was what I was kind of singing lately. I don't know. You've not spent much time on Tik TOK. So, uh, you probably have not come across this, but,
00:30:03
Speaker
ah Pine Salt started, like, some Gen Z kid started to, like, take over their ah social media um marketing and just came up with this very silly little, like, song This is a while ago, though, right? It was like a year ago. yeah I saw some of that. didn't we Didn't some of us put those into the Cleaning Accountability Yes, group and it was ah literally just like singing OMG to Pine. Yes, I remember this. OMG to Pine. Yeah. so silly now they have a little frog mascot a frog where oh so sorry you good yeah i knocked over my water that was sitting next to me buto it's it's closed no okay good good um now they have this little like frog ah mascot with a little almost i think he's got a little cape and a little wand so he's like a little wizard frog
00:31:10
Speaker
And he just bounces around and he sees sings in this silly little voice. This really, really funny. And so Pine Sol is doing good things with their social media marketing. I love it.
00:31:24
Speaker
Anyway. As soon as you said Pine Sol, I was like, oh my God, I remember. Something about Pine Sol. Something about that being, you know, like a, can you know, oh my God, the word is not coming to my mouth right now.
00:31:40
Speaker
potential, you know, witchy ingredient in things. That's like factory produced. Yeah. But it's like very much like, you know, old school, like ancient recipe stuff, you know? Yeah. not yeah not Maybe not ancient, but you know what I'm saying?
00:31:59
Speaker
Yeah. Like um from the olden days. Traditional. Yeah. Like they, it's just like such a good recipe. They haven't needed to like update it. Right. Over the last hundred, hundred fifty years.
00:32:11
Speaker
Yeah. So i love it makes me want to grab some and and figure out ways to use it.
Ingredients for a Jar Spell
00:32:16
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Also, as you were talking about the different ingredients that you would put into a jar spell, a lot of them I was thinking could go like for me, i would like to make like a tincture or not a tincture, but like, um,
00:32:33
Speaker
Like, okay, it' it would be, maybe it is a tincture, but it's not intended for, like, ingesting. It's intended to be used as a cleansing spray. Oh, okay. But, like... Topically only, effectively? Yeah, like, yeah, you could literally clean things with it, like, the surface of things, but you could also just spray it around as, like, a means to, like, clear the energy. um Yeah. But, like, I was thinking, you know...
00:33:01
Speaker
It would probably have to be alcohol-based situation. then would probably want go clip one of my roses from the rose bush in front of my house. Oh, hell yeah. And cut off this. I mean, maybe use the flower part, but definitely the stem part that has thorns.
00:33:19
Speaker
Right. And put it in there.
00:33:23
Speaker
Some lemon and potentially vinegar. And i'm trying to remember what else you mentioned, but it was like those certain things were like starting to form an idea in my head about. Yeah. Maybe some pine salt.
00:33:34
Speaker
Maybe a little pine salt in there. yeah Hell yeah. I love that. I might need to do that. I love that so much. Yeah. I think that you should. um And yeah, I do think that for mine, like this is definitely turning into like a jar spell, which is my like go-to. Like this is how I already like.
00:33:55
Speaker
think through what I'm trying to you know, come up with or not even come up with. But like when I want to do a new spell, like my default tends to be jar spells. um And so, you know, just adding those ah in those aforementioned herbs and, you know, plant matter into it. um ah so I wrote down salt, but I think black salt is specifically what I want. I'm noting that down as well.
00:34:25
Speaker
um And then the... like I think that ah one of the things that would need to be an essential element is this would have to depend on what it is that I'm banishing or who it is that I'm banishing. um but like I would need...
00:34:46
Speaker
like either their image or just like writing down like their full name or something. Yep. and putting that into the jar and then putting the ingredients like around it, like effectively like stifling it in the jar, adding the oils, letting it sort of get gluey there. Yeah.
00:35:14
Speaker
And, um, adding the pie and salt adding i meant to also write down lemon juice so here's an idea or yeah thought that popped in my head uh-huh you said writing down their name and then i didn't quite catch what you what you said about that afterwards but if you are going to be writing it down on some paper and sticking it in there with that stuff liquidy stuff Yes? Yes. Yes. The ink will start to bleed on the paper and sort of essentially dissolve their name.
00:35:56
Speaker
True. So that's even more witchy. Oh, yeah, for sure sure. That idea popped in my head. I was like, I could see ink starting to bleed into the paper and spread. And I was like, oh Yeah.
00:36:09
Speaker
That's interesting. For sure. And the same thing would happen even if you were just using like an image. Like not ah if you had like a glossy photo, but like, you know, if you like took a photo of them and printed it out on regular printer paper. Yeah. um The same thing, the same effect would happen. um Sorry. I also just forgot or realized that I didn't write down white vinegar either. So writing that down.
00:36:35
Speaker
um But like, I think that, so I usually, when I do a jar spell, I'll take, I'll take,
00:36:47
Speaker
a candle of a particular color, usually pertaining to whatever it is I'm trying to do, and like like seal off the jar and then melt the candle wax either around the edges of the jar lid or just on the top, even if it doesn't physically like seal it.
00:37:07
Speaker
in But for this one, I feel like it would be prudent. Obviously, naturally, i'd be using a black candle. um I feel like it would be prudent to melt the wax into the open jar on top of everything that's already in there.
00:37:27
Speaker
um Like there wouldn't be so much liquid that it would be like a big puddle at the top. I think it would just be like, you know, saturated herbs and stuff like that are moist, but not like wet. Okay. If that makes sense. um And I would melt...
00:37:49
Speaker
the black wax into the jar, like basically filling up the top layer, ah like basically creating a top layer, I guess, of black wax.
00:38:04
Speaker
Because it's sort of like a sealing it off from the rest of the world, the rest of my life, really. if I'm banishing somebody, I want them sealed off from my life. Yeah. And so whether that's like, you know, you you could you could try to metaphysically create something that feels like you're sealing them out and keeping yourself in, or this this almost...
00:38:30
Speaker
feels like the energy of the way that a freezing spell works where you're stealing somebody in a jar and freezing it so they're sealed in but in this case you're putting them you know in a banishing jar that's you know just gonna be sealed off yeah in this case by wax um and then once it is like fully sealed off at the top close up that jar and i like it's like it's witchy there's like a you know metaphysical element to it but it's also just sort of aesthetic to me but i like the idea of taking like a black ribbon and just tying it around the jar tying it in a little bow that would be pretty
00:39:23
Speaker
I have black velvet ribbon o that I frequently use. um But I like the idea of just sort of being like, you know, and you do all of this. And I i would even do this like literally with an energy of like gentleness of like here, i don't want you fucking shit up anymore. So I'm gently putting you in this jar and gently like packing in these ingredients to help banish you from my life. ah But doing it in not like a mean, assertive, aggressive way. but like, you know, just doing that, like, you know, just like with that kind of those kinds of physical motions as you're like,
00:40:08
Speaker
literally putting everything in and then gently sealing it off with wax and gently screwing on the lid and then gently neatly nicely tying a little bow being like look I like to look at you you are you are you know like there's like ah a little bit of like an honoring almost and in wrapping it with a bow But, you know, some people might take that to mean or even use it with the intention of being sarcastic. yeah Because, like, haha, fuck you. Yeah. Here's a bow for your fucking banishing spell. um
00:40:48
Speaker
But in my mind, I would just be like, no, like, there's a bow because, like, you know what? Continue to live, but just do it elsewhere.
00:40:59
Speaker
Like, stay away from me. Yeah. Yeah. Politely, stay away from me, respectfully. Yeah, and so I'm gonna write that down. I'm gonna write down my black candle
00:41:15
Speaker
and for wax specifically and black ribbon. And the same could be achieved with any kind of, you know, cord, string, yarn.
Cleansing Spray Inspiration
00:41:33
Speaker
huh But because I have a black velvet ribbon, that's like, that's what I would reach for first, I think. Super cool. Yeah. Yeah. i you I'm still dwelling on my little cleansing...
00:41:49
Speaker
liquid yeah and honestly I want to do some research into making sure that it's not a bunch of stuff that's gonna turn moldy and weird if I do it a certain way or whatever but like or you just would have to make sure to use it up within a certain time yeah but I'm really truly wondering if that might be the answer to my like motivation for cleaning if I make my own thing, i might be more apt to use it and do stuff and like o things in my house that need cleaning and things like that.
00:42:26
Speaker
Very, very true. Good point. Yeah. Well, but yeah, like that would be ideal and not just for like the purposes of motivating you for that specific task, but yeah,
00:42:43
Speaker
in general, just, like, having something there, because it's, like, even if you can't, like, get yourself, you know, at the end of a long work day or what what have you, ah get yourself to actually, like, get up and do any tidying or putting anything away, like, you know, if you have it within reach, like, next to your couch, next to your bed, whatever, the spray, and you can just sort of, you don't even have to get up, you just grab it and go, ch-ch-ch,
00:43:11
Speaker
Right. it And then you just sort of be like, listen, I didn't get anything physically put away, but at least the vibes are better. Especially if it smells good, because yeah. It's like ah your own metaphysical Febreze. Yeah.
00:43:32
Speaker
hu Hell yeah. Cool beans. I love that, and I hope that you do that. I am going to do research and figure it out.
00:43:42
Speaker
Good, good, good. Oh, yeah.
00:43:49
Speaker
Wow. Fun. Any other thing you want to talk about?
Versatility of Mugwort
00:43:56
Speaker
Um, because I'm trying to think through, like what I've written down for the spell and like I think is the only other element that i use regularly in my magic is music.
00:44:14
Speaker
other And that's the one thing I've left out of what I've already written down. And so I'm just doing a look a quick little look-see through like what potential songs I might use.
00:44:29
Speaker
um Because this is like the kind of thing where I either create a little mini playlist or listen to one song on repeat as I work on the jar spell, whatever jar spell it is. um I think in this case I would just choose like one or two songs maybe. and I'm just going through like my most recent like added stuff. And I found this song that is i don't I don't know anyone else who knows this artist, but it's because I discovered her on TikTok. And not because she's not famous, because she for sure is.
00:45:03
Speaker
But like i just I liked it and I added it. it's This song is called No More Tears. The artist is Avery Anna.
00:45:15
Speaker
and it's like a nice like hard rock sound and she's i don't know just i mean you might glean the vibe of the song from the fact that it's titled no more tears you know there's let's see there's also let's see I mean, anything that's got an aggressive vibe to it. There's this wonderful, like, heavy metal cover of Bob Dylan's song, Masters of War. That's really good.
00:45:49
Speaker
um Or anything by Jesse Wells, because he is the modern Bob Dylan. um He is incredible.
00:46:03
Speaker
But also, this um this artist that I came across that I think I told you about, and I don't know if you've ever listened to her since I told you about her, but ah it's she's like a little bit of like a hard rock rap.
00:46:21
Speaker
girl vibe girl um and i think she's british but her name is delilah bond that doesn't sound familiar she's the one who this might sound familiar she's the one who wrote the song and produced the song dead men don't rape oh i know i sent you a screenshot of her like album cover for that single That title sounds familiar.
00:46:47
Speaker
um But like she has another song called I Wish a Bitch Would. ah And I feel like that would be another good one to ah to incorporate into this ah kind of working.
00:47:02
Speaker
But yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Sweet. Yeah. So that would be, and I don't have specific plans to work a banishing spell on anybody right now, but now I'm prepared if the, yeah if the need arises.
00:47:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:29
Speaker
Well, anything else you wanted to add? I didn't talk about mugwort too much, but... But it's in here. Like, it's... yeah it's How versatile. What a versatile bitch. Yes.
00:47:43
Speaker
Hell yeah. Love it. Yeah. um The Art of the Root page that I clicked on, it's like... It says, how to how to use mugwort in witchcraft and spells...
00:48:02
Speaker
And then they show a bowl of like herbs and salt mixed together. who um and then there's like a recipe thing and then, or like not a recipe, but like a list of things that you need for a specific spell.
00:48:16
Speaker
But I was hoping to find like a mini list, if you will, of different types of spells that it can be used in. And I have not found that.
00:48:26
Speaker
Well, you kind of listed it off toward the top, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:34
Speaker
yeah spiritual magical properties because I'm at that page now too art of the root um it says yeah dream work and divination protection vanishing ritual cleansing energy purification healing relaxation um I don't actually know what it smells like by itself I'm not sure if it would be appropriate for like aromatherapy but I don't know if it's like pleasant enough for that But either way, like that's basically it. And that's again, why we called it a versatile bitch. Right.
00:49:10
Speaker
um So, yeah, I love it. I like that and when I Googled mugwort and then I scrolled down a little, it's ah actually, I Googled the specific words mugwort spell uses.
00:49:26
Speaker
o But when you scroll down a bit, you get to a section on the page that's short videos. And there looks like there's quite a few good ones that I would like to watch.
00:49:39
Speaker
All right. Well, put that on your to-do list. Like, it looks like somebody's putting it in honey. Interesting. Yeah. It says, how to make mugwort dream honey. oh my God. That sounds amazing. All righty, then. Yeah.
00:49:56
Speaker
cool Well, any final ah thoughts? I don't think so. We have to go. Happy morning recording to us. Happy morning recording. Even though it's now afternoon, technically.
00:50:10
Speaker
Is it? Yeah. after twelve It's after 12. It's 1, 2, 3, 4. Oh my goodness. Sure is. Hooray. All right. We got we guys. All right. You guys.
00:50:24
Speaker
I'm going to have more coffee. and We're gonna say goodbye. Okay. Just for now. We'll be back. We're not going away forever.
00:50:36
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um We're
00:50:41
Speaker
launching into summer. i think i think it's basically gonna be summer solstice. Either... the day before or the day of the release of this episode.
00:50:53
Speaker
um and so happy summer solstice. Yes. To all of us, all of us witchy people. um and, uh, yeah.
00:51:04
Speaker
I was just reminded of a phrase cause it's popped into my head a couple times recently and it might actually be like a song title, but I'm not positive about that, but I'm just going to say the phrase cause it's kind of fitting to our topic.
00:51:17
Speaker
Um, um don't go away mad just go away have you heard that before i think so i've definitely heard like a variance of it yeah because it's it's not like a new no it's not a novel concept but it's like think it might have been a song from back in the day or something yeah yeah i could see that working as a song lyric for sure I like it. yeah So it's like our fitting in with our little banishment section you of the episode. Tying it off with a nice little black ribbon. Exactly.
00:51:58
Speaker
Don't go away mad. Just go away. Love it. All right. Well, have a beautiful week, you guys. And we'll see you next time.