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Speaker: G'day, I'm Trent Maxwell.
Speaker: And I'm Lee Mason.
Speaker: I want to welcome you to our Live, Learn, Survive podcast.
Speaker: Since 2018, Lee and I have traveled the globe, met face-to-face over 36,500 children in six countries across three continents.
Speaker: We created a series of award-winning children's books, a global online education program, and the founders of the Live, Learn, Survive charity, all focused on teaching children and young adults' life skills that will not only help themselves, but help others too.
Speaker: We're on a mission to spread awareness about fire, water and first aid education to inspire the next generation of first responders.
Speaker: So join us for the next half an hour with some fun, inspiration and kindness and we'll try and learn something too.
Speaker: How are you this week, Lee?
Speaker: Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker: I am good, Maxine.
Speaker: We're starting the week.
Speaker: It's Monday morning, bright and early.
Speaker: Monday morning and we've got a special guest this week.
Speaker: Hey, we've got an exclusive.
Speaker: Exclusive.
Speaker: So it's good to have Harrison here.
Speaker: All the people on YouTube already know that because they can see it, but the people listening are waiting.
Speaker: I've got it.
Speaker: My hair is going to drive me mad for this.
Speaker: Let's sort that out.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: It's all right.
Speaker: Took it in the glasses.
Speaker: Yeah, the people on YouTube already know he's here, but the people listening, you just gave a...
Speaker: Sneaky peek who's joined us.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Our special away.
Speaker: First, post-jungle, the exclusive.
Speaker: Yes, it was a big couple of weeks watching Harrison in the jungle.
Speaker: He did a great job.
Speaker: And we're going to be finding out about, you know, lifeguarding the jungle and what's next for Harrison.
Speaker: So do you want to do the honest?
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Drum roll, please.
Speaker: Let's intro the main man.
Speaker: So, Maxie, today on the Live Learned to Live podcast, we are joined by none other than professional lifeguard, Harrison Reid.
Speaker: So for people that may not know, Harrison was born and raised in Christchurch, New Zealand, and he moved to Sydney to pursue his dream job of becoming a lifeguard and worked hard to earn his spot among the elite Waverley lifeguards.
Speaker: Now working at Bondi, Bronte and Tamarama beaches alongside yourself, Maxie and the rest of the team.
Speaker: So the spotlight and Bondi Rescue followed and making sure this inspirational lifeguard in Korea, patrolling one of the world's most famous beaches, was well documented, including many of the incredible rescues, medical incidents and countless lives that Harrison has saved, keeping locals and tourists from all around the world safe in the surf.
Speaker: On a self-confessed mission to get out of his comfort zone, Harrison recently swapped the beach for the jungle and appeared on the Australian I'm a Celebrity Get Me Outta Here.
Speaker: And we could not have been prouder, almost to the point of tears, when we learned that Harrison had nominated All to Live, Learn, Survive as his nominated charity.
Speaker: Today, we could not be happier to welcome him home and have him here with us as the first exclusive chat
Speaker: about life in the jungle and what the future holds.
Speaker: Harrison, welcome home.
Speaker: You're back.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: It's good to be back.
Speaker: I can go to the fridge and help myself to food whenever I want.
Speaker: I'm not restricted to camp.
Speaker: Please tell me you've got rice and beans in your pantry.
Speaker: Just a very cool moment of that snack.
Speaker: After speaking to Harrison the last week, I don't think rice and beans is on his menu for the next, probably forever.
Speaker: Ever.
Speaker: The rest of his life.
Speaker: Yeah, I feel it.
Speaker: Mate, I was getting to the stage where I had to force it down me because the beans were the only kind of protein we were getting.
Speaker: And to the stage where I was actually getting sick.
Speaker: I reckon I had a week in there with no beans.
Speaker: I was just having rice for lunch.
Speaker: Wow, so just plain rice.
Speaker: Nothing.
Speaker: Oh, my gosh.
Speaker: Can you imagine the hangry?
Speaker: Yeah, a little bit of hangriness.
Speaker: I know that I probably would have been a bit hangry.
Speaker: I'm sure other people around Australia would have been hangry.
Speaker: Oh, me too.
Speaker: That would be a disaster.
Speaker: I would have been like, to keep your...
Speaker: calm but we'll we'll we'll talk about all of this and we'll unpack all of this but we'll what are we going to start with we're going to get into the lifeguard in first so um let's do um justice to your stellar career harrison first before we start all of that so i'll roll in with question one how did your journey as a lifeguard begin and what's been the biggest lesson for you along the way
Speaker: I think for me, I've always, ever since I was very young, I was interested in lifeguarding and kind of first aid, you know, ambulances, paramedics, that first responder kind of feel.
Speaker: I got to a stage when I was really young, I had a fascination with first aid kits.
Speaker: So like the parents went on holiday, you know, everyone wanted to come, you know, you want to get, people wanted, if your parents got went away on holiday, wanted to, you know, get, bring back a prison.
Speaker: Mum and dad would bring back a first aid kid every time.
Speaker: So I went like, so I started with that and then really started doing nippers when I was younger, really got into lifeguarding there and got to the stage where I think it was like,
Speaker: I don't know how old I was, maybe six or seven of these photos of me sitting by the pool when I used to put all my teddy bears on boogie boards.
Speaker: And I think that photo was just shown on TV.
Speaker: Everyone saw it.
Speaker: And by six hours, and so, you know, it was good.
Speaker: So, you know, cheap babysitting.
Speaker: When the wind picked up, did they fall in the pool?
Speaker: You're straight in there?
Speaker: Tell you what.
Speaker: Did you ever give a little bit of a pool to them?
Speaker: No, no, Tweety Bird nearly went in one day, but it was fine.
Speaker: And I remember there was also another photo of me.
Speaker: I went like, I saw like, you know, like Baywatch and like the risky tubes and the cans, but nothing like that.
Speaker: So we had like a broken vacuum cleaner.
Speaker: It was like a bit of the middle pole.
Speaker: It was like that big and then tied the rope around it.
Speaker: That was like my rescue tube used to walk around with.
Speaker: But like we went on holiday somewhere, like especially if you went to the Gold Coast, I would just sit at the bottom of the lifeguard tower, you know, and this is, you know, you know, since I was, yeah, I was going to see probably about seven years old maybe.
Speaker: And I think for me it's like,
Speaker: Say, speaking, coming from New Zealand, like, you know, like a young kid's dream was to, you know, become an all black, you know, if you're a rugby player.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Getting to a stage where I love lifeguarding, you know, we don't have professional lifeguard services in New Zealand.
Speaker: They have like a regional lifeguard program, which they pay, you know, some uni kids, you know,
Speaker: which we did in Christchurch for about four weeks over the Christmas break in Christchurch, but it wasn't a full-time job.
Speaker: So I was doing that.
Speaker: I didn't have really any social life, didn't have a social life through that period of 16 to 18,
Speaker: really want to become a lifeguard.
Speaker: And, and, you know, back to when I said, you know, a Kiwi kid, you know, you're, you know, you want to become an all black, the best in your field.
Speaker: And I think my dream was knowing that I wanted to work at the one of the world's busiest beaches.
Speaker: And, and that was, that was Bondi.
Speaker: And that's, you know, you really can test yourself.
Speaker: And, and they, they used to do a holiday academy, which you remember.
Speaker: I remember that.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I used to come over.
Speaker: It was like in the June school holidays and,
Speaker: And it was quite funny.
Speaker: You rocked up there and, you know, had all the Aussie kids and, you know, they're all, cause they train all year round.
Speaker: They're first and all that.
Speaker: And, you know, there's me, but I was just so keen.
Speaker: And, and I was like, Oh, I've got no chance here.
Speaker: But I remember, and, and Maxie will vouch for, and, um,
Speaker: And Hoppo said, you know, like you could be the fittest person in the field, but if you can't spot them in trouble, you're no good to them, you know.
Speaker: The state or the situational awareness that comes with being a lifeguard.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: And I think, you know, that was something, you know, one of my skills I was proud of, you know, is always being able to spot someone before they get into trouble.
Speaker: And it's great because, you know, the way I described the lifeguarding down there is, you know,
Speaker: it's kind of like a footy team you know you've got all these you know different positions and no one's the same everyone brings their um their different strengths to it you know like as you know we've got you know maxi you know i know he was a lifeguard before but you know the skills from being a firefighter now you know guys who are uh paramedics down there you know we've got people that are you know big wave surfers unbelievable in the water
Speaker: And then you've got guys who are great with, you know, dealing with people and kids and families and all that.
Speaker: And so, you know, we always come together and make a great team, which is pretty special.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So then, yeah, then I did the academy and then I think they got desperate that year and put me on the training show.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I moved home from New Zealand and moved straight into Maxi Spiro.
Speaker: I moved in with Harrison back when Harrison turned 18 and we lived together for about two and a half, three years, which was an awesome time.
Speaker: You can imagine what we got up to being, I was 21 at the time, Harrison 18, and we had a lot of fun.
Speaker: But, yeah, how long has it been now?
Speaker: How many seasons?
Speaker: It's my 12th year.
Speaker: 12th year.
Speaker: So, you know, in any job, you know, 10 years plus is amazing, but 12 years, you know, it's –
Speaker: And it's credible as well because, like, you're saying those, you know, your story there with, like, you watching the pool and all the rest of it, it's like you, Maxie, with the keeping the garden hose under your bed because you've got boots ready for the fire alarm going.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I used to sleep with fire gear under my bed when I was a kid.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: And after one time I went on school camp, across the road a car got firebombed and there was a fire truck parked in there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: in our driveway and I remember crying for days because the one time there was a fire in my street, you know.
Speaker: He was away.
Speaker: He missed it.
Speaker: The big one, Harrison, and he missed it.
Speaker: Heartbreaking.
Speaker: I remember lived with Maxi and we lived on old South Head Road, which is a busy road and there one night and these sirens and sirens were going past.
Speaker: So many sirens, like this is big, something's going on.
Speaker: We looked at each other like, we've got to go and see what's going on.
Speaker: So we just went for a drive and then found the street where the fire was.
Speaker: And then we drove down there and I was in my car and then unfortunately I ended up getting parked in so we had to wait for the whole incident to be finished, which took a couple of hours.
Speaker: Yeah, it was like 11 o'clock at night.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: So here we got the, you know, the fiery, the paramedic, couple of lifeguards just in case, you know, like...
Speaker: Remember that there was that hair salon across the road one day and we were sitting watching TV.
Speaker: A big car accident.
Speaker: And we heard this.
Speaker: The noise was incredible.
Speaker: Ran out and a car driven straight into the hair salon.
Speaker: And we ran across there.
Speaker: Norm Sporting was the ambulance inspector, which we knew from the training at the beach.
Speaker: And he kind of got us involved in a way where we'll kind of help and preserve the scene.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, you're handy blokes to have in the apartment block, if you're honest.
Speaker: You know, let's like, you know, if there's something going off, you'd be knocking on your door.
Speaker: Like, you know, like, so that's just brilliant.
Speaker: And it's so like those seeds are almost there, aren't they, when you're really young.
Speaker: I ended up in fashion.
Speaker: I used to unpick my doll's clothes.
Speaker: and then hand sew them back together.
Speaker: Cause I wanted to know how garments fitted back together.
Speaker: So I think I was the only kid that got the dolls dress and then unpicked it all and laid it all out.
Speaker: And then like wanted to put the jigsaw back together.
Speaker: Kids, you know, one thing I say to people, listen to kids, because they are probably subconsciously telling you whether they're like, want to be a first responder, want to be helping people, want to be creative, whatever.
Speaker: you know, like all those different things.
Speaker: So cool.
Speaker: And the signs are there, aren't they, from so young.
Speaker: They are.
Speaker: They definitely are.
Speaker: And rolling off from that question, what's the most intense or rewarding save you've ever made and how did it unfold?
Speaker: I'm sure there's thousands.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But if there's one that comes to mind.
Speaker: Sticks in your mind.
Speaker: Oh, God.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There's so many.
Speaker: It's quite funny.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I was actually thinking about this when I was in the jungle and it's something I wish, you know, I did when I, um, before I started lifeguarding, I had a book and then when he made you just write it down and then just, and that day and the date, and then I could go back to it, you know, down the track and just go, Oh, this, that's when that happened.
Speaker: And it is different things because, you know, we're very lucky we do get successful resuscitations and all that.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: But then you get the, you know, the strange ones.
Speaker: I remember the guy drove the car onto the beach.
Speaker: Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker: You know, like I, you know, you go back to my first day at work and then, you know,
Speaker: When a lady, and I didn't know where anything was, new to the area, and we were short, and it was in the winter, and a lady fell over.
Speaker: It was up at the North Bondi when you walked through up the grassy knoll, and they had that concrete octopus in the playground.
Speaker: And she was carrying her baby, and then she tripped over one of the tentacles and pulled her arm out to block the baby, and it landed on one of the other tentacles and fully compound fractured her arm.
Speaker: Her arm.
Speaker: And I'm up there and like, you know, like, geez, like really out of my depth here the first day.
Speaker: And then Eric is quite funny every time I walk past that there now.
Speaker: Like I remember these incidents.
Speaker: But yeah, I think for me,
Speaker: is probably the resuscitations of the big ones, you know, or even the near resuscitations where, you know, they're out, they're unconscious, but just breathing.
Speaker: I think the other ones that do resonate with me, I think, um, because, you know, we do do a lot of rescues down there and, and majority of the time, you know, that that's pretty sweet.
Speaker: You get them before it gets bad or, um, you know, very lucky down there with the locals.
Speaker: I mean, uh, you know, we would have a lot more drownings.
Speaker: It wasn't the local.
Speaker: I mean, on a busy day, there's six lifeguards to 30,000 people.
Speaker: We know we can't be everywhere at once.
Speaker: So we kind of rely on that team effort.
Speaker: And then, yeah, I think it's probably resuscitations for me.
Speaker: Resuscitations, for sure.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: And, you know, I mean, I've been there when I've seen one.
Speaker: Well, I've been there when you've not been working, Maxine.
Speaker: We've been together and you've like, hang on, I'm going to go.
Speaker: You know, the boys need help.
Speaker: You're almost like when things happen after hours, you...
Speaker: you all just turn up, don't you?
Speaker: You just... There's always someone around.
Speaker: There always seems to be someone around.
Speaker: It's pretty bizarre.
Speaker: All the major incidents, you always see someone coming from, running from somewhere, driving past or, you know, you just have good situational awareness.
Speaker: You know your beaches pretty well and in the past, the guys have said messages on the WhatsApp group, anyone down in Bronte, you know, for late rescues and we all kind of team up and get down there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And they'd be staying with you because it's not just the person or the patient.
Speaker: They would have friends around them.
Speaker: There'd be family with them.
Speaker: You know, it's like, yeah, it's full on situation.
Speaker: And particularly somewhere at Bondi, you actually always have a crowd as well, which like wouldn't happen at probably anywhere else.
Speaker: But, you know, you get the...
Speaker: people just standing around as well and it's like you know um hats off to you for doing all of that because it's not um it's not an easy job to do in the first place and you're doing it under a microscope and off you know some parts of the year you're having it filmed as well so um you know a lot of pressure there so um
Speaker: So going back to when you knew Harrison with the teddies in the pool and the summer rescue situation in New Zealand, did you talk to people at school?
Speaker: Did you go to school with this and say, this is what I want to do?
Speaker: Did you get good advice or did you kind of work your own path out?
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I was lucky.
Speaker: I kind of worked my own path out.
Speaker: And then for me, I kind of stayed in my own lane.
Speaker: I'd probably describe it.
Speaker: Like I was just happy.
Speaker: I didn't really, nothing really fazed me.
Speaker: And I think my teachers knew that as well.
Speaker: Like my parents joked with me saying, I kind of just went to school to eat my lunch.
Speaker: And you know what?
Speaker: They're not wrong.
Speaker: It was funny, but it's also hard because when I was in New Zealand and Christchurch, it's not really the climate for beaches.
Speaker: So when I said I wanted to be a lifeguard, people kind of looked at me and go, well, you can't do that forever, you know, like it's especially.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There's another 11 months of the year.
Speaker: How are you going to fill that?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: And I remember we, last year at school and I,
Speaker: I remember I was at like an end of year thing and was meeting the parents coming through for their kids were starting the next year, year nine, they were coming to our house.
Speaker: And they'll ask me, oh, so like, every question was, what university are you going to?
Speaker: And I said, I'm not going to university.
Speaker: I was going to be a lifeguard.
Speaker: They go, yeah, but that's just for the summer.
Speaker: Like what uni is that?
Speaker: And I said, no, it's full time.
Speaker: And they kind of give you this weird look, you know.
Speaker: Um, and, and by all means, if I, um, if I wanted to get into finance or, you know, be an architect or a doctor by all means, you know, that you go to university and that's great.
Speaker: Um, a thing for me, which I look back on now is like, I knew a lot of people that didn't know what they were going to do and they just automatically I've got to go to university.
Speaker: And so, um,
Speaker: they're in uni, they hate it, they spend all this money, then they chop and change to another one, you know?
Speaker: And the next minute, you just, you know, they just spent all this money and they don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker: And for me, I think that's, if you don't know what you're gonna do, that's fine.
Speaker: Don't jump into something just because you feel that pressure or whatnot.
Speaker: I think that was one that, that was a big one for me.
Speaker: And on top of that is, you know, it's easy for me to say because I've worked, you know, found love for my passion of work, you know, and I love my job.
Speaker: I honestly say that I haven't worked for 12 years, you know, like because I love rocking up, you know, Maxie was the same way.
Speaker: We used to get to work about an hour early, you know, and then, you know, everyone's like, what are you doing here?
Speaker: Like, I'm ready for work.
Speaker: You know, like, this is shit for, you know, a few of the guys, like, mate, but, you know, we didn't take lunch, I remember not taking lunch breaks, you know, when I was a trainee.
Speaker: So I was so scared I was going to miss something or miss a rescue that the guys were going to do.
Speaker: And I wanted that one.
Speaker: So, you know, for me, I haven't worked 12 days of my life and by all means there are some tough days, but you know, we thrive on those days, you know?
Speaker: And so I think,
Speaker: I know it's hard to say that people think, oh, there's not a passion, you know, you know, there's not a, sorry, a job for my passion, but you just never know what that can lead to.
Speaker: And, you know, for me, lifeguarding, you know, in New Zealand to beaches, you know, that they get, you know, maybe a hundred people there on a busy summer's day.
Speaker: I followed through and I'm here at Bondi and, you know, it was pretty relentless.
Speaker: And I think that's just, yeah, it's,
Speaker: you know if you do what you love you know you never yeah and i think you know you know what you just said something that's so important there's so much pressure put on 16 17 year olds to what do you want to do you might not work that out till you're 35 you know it's like the pressure to go to uni if you you know if that's like you know
Speaker: You've got the grades, there's the expectation, you know, you've got the smarts, you've got the grades, you've got the, you know, you need to go.
Speaker: And there's so much pressure put on young people.
Speaker: And it's almost like your grades don't define you.
Speaker: What you do in those first few years don't define you.
Speaker: And, you know, you are both examples of doing something that you love.
Speaker: And that made life so much easier because, you know, if you're in a job that you hate,
Speaker: when that alarm goes off in the morning, you don't want to be there an hour earlier.
Speaker: So it's like, find your passion, find what you love.
Speaker: And if you don't know that it looks like it's a job as such as a lifeguarding, you might like reading, you might like writing, you might like working with numbers, you might like working in a desk, you might hate working at a desk.
Speaker: There's all these little things that give you signs that,
Speaker: You know, write things down.
Speaker: You know, I think that's such an important lesson because 16 years old, seriously?
Speaker: you've got a million things you can try and you can always change.
Speaker: And even the better thing too, you know, at school I didn't really necessarily like history or, you know, languages or math.
Speaker: But, you know, as you get older, like I kind of like some of those things.
Speaker: I like learning about history.
Speaker: I like doing some math Sudoku and stuff like that.
Speaker: Like,
Speaker: You're constantly evolving and changing.
Speaker: So, you know, find your passion.
Speaker: You might want to do something when you're in your 20s, but then when you get to your 30s, you might have a completely different outlook on life and you can follow your passion.
Speaker: I was like you, Harrison.
Speaker: I went to school for hockey and netball.
Speaker: I'd forget my books, but you bet I'd never forget my hockey kit or my netball kit.
Speaker: You know, it's like school's really tough and it's, we say it all the time at Live and Survive.
Speaker: And when I did the speech, I spoke about it.
Speaker: It's, it's,
Speaker: very difficult because an education system tries to be a one size fits all and we're all so different and there's jobs coming out now that weren't even on the radar 10 years ago and the jobs that 16 year olds will have in 10 years time aren't even invented yet
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: And one thing I do think is now like I look back on my school and I'm like, you know what, I do kind of take that for granted.
Speaker: Like I wish I applied myself a bit more.
Speaker: And as I said, no, the hindsight's an amazing thing.
Speaker: But, you know, a little thing is like that you forget is,
Speaker: School's so easy, you know, you get dropped off, you know, you bike to school and then you're with your friends every day, you know, and then when you leave, you're like, oh, you know, you're in the real world now, you know, so, you know, it is a good time school and yeah, for sure.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, no, brilliant, brilliant wisdom in there, Harrison.
Speaker: So when you were in the jungle, we did catch up with KB and Kevin.
Speaker: And this next question, I remember having a good chat with Kevin and your dad and he gave me some good advice with some one-worded sayings and stuff like that.
Speaker: But what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given and how has it shaped you?
Speaker: It doesn't have to be from your dad, but it's just like that sort of – has someone given you good advice and how has it shaped you to be right now?
Speaker: The one that –
Speaker: ones that dad drilled into me was always be humble, I think.
Speaker: Just, you know, there's always someone bigger and better and, you know, you know, the taller you are, the harder you fall.
Speaker: And there's, you know, so just, and I think I've taken that back into kind of like lifeguarding as well, you know, just, you know, there's some, when I came to that job, it's just, just be a sponge and take all the information you can because, you know, you,
Speaker: There's been great people around us.
Speaker: A big one for me is as well as just treat other people how you want to be treated, which I think is a big one.
Speaker: I think through lifeguarding, I think I've really, you know, leant into that one.
Speaker: Reason being is because
Speaker: you know, we deal with all sorts of things down there, as you know.
Speaker: Um, and, um, it's, it's quite interesting.
Speaker: I was, um, a friend of ours, uh, you know, that we know, who's a police officer is, you know, he said, it's a great, a great thing is, um,
Speaker: you know, someone's had a bad scenario that happens to someone could be completely different, could be nothing to someone that had, you know, sorry, completely different to something that happened to another person.
Speaker: But everyone's different, you know, and that's why they treat them differently.
Speaker: And so, for example,
Speaker: someone's lost their car, you know, you can't remember where they're coming from.
Speaker: You know, for us, that's nothing because we're dealing with, you know, people drowning.
Speaker: But that could be the worst thing that could happen to those, you know, that person.
Speaker: And then so I'll treat them the same as if someone's drowning.
Speaker: And then the reason why I enjoy that, you know, treat other people how you want to be treated is because,
Speaker: if that was my parents or my loved ones and they're in that situation, I hope there was someone like me that can help them out in that situation if they're overseas and whatnot.
Speaker: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: You know what?
Speaker: You've just, you've just said something that reminds me of, um, you, you, you know, moved overseas to find your passion, you know, me the same.
Speaker: And you can't always be there when it's your family or something.
Speaker: And exactly that Harrison, you think,
Speaker: your mom or your dad or, you know, my relatives or one of my best friends, you think you're not on the end of that phone.
Speaker: Somebody will be there and you hope that they get treated how you would want to be treated.
Speaker: That's, you know, and you're right to one person missing a train could be another person's
Speaker: You know, literally worst day.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And you don't know what people are going through and that might just be the thing on the day that escalates it.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: So the most high stress moment of your career so far, not the most high stress of the jungle and we'll come to that shortly with the rice and beans, high stress moment of your career so far.
Speaker: And how do you handle that stress?
Speaker: I think, I don't know Max, yeah, it'd be interesting.
Speaker: it's for us, it's the jobs where we get the phone calls, you know, I think, you know, like you get a phone call, you know, you might be, you know, we used to have a phone called the bat phone, which is like, we used to have two phone lines.
Speaker: So one was just like a general one and the other phone was for emergencies.
Speaker: And then there's a certain, you know, ring to it.
Speaker: Like, you know, that it had that, you know, that alarm that goes, and when you get that, like all of a sudden you're, you know, everything's heightened.
Speaker: Is that when you go, Macy, we're on, we're on air, we're on air?
Speaker: It's either a jet ski job or someone up in the park.
Speaker: It's usually something that's not really what you can see in front of you.
Speaker: It's something that's either around the rocks or around the corner or up on the road or up in the park.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So yeah, so it's when usually when one three surf ring you or the police ring you.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, you're on.
Speaker: And every time that went, you're like, all right, it's a good job here.
Speaker: And it's majority of the time it was a jet ski job, which is like, you know, it's you get the job, someone's on the phone call and then they'll look around at you and then like be police and they just nod and point to the life jackets, meaning, all right, get suited up for the jet ski.
Speaker: I think which we love, like, you know, we're in there, all right, we're on here, this is proper.
Speaker: Because when it's a jet ski job, it's life and death and it's something that seconds can count.
Speaker: And it's the ones where it's big surf and it's normally big surf.
Speaker: It's normally always raining.
Speaker: We get those ones.
Speaker: And yet back in your mind, it's a rock fisherman, I think.
Speaker: And when you do get a call to a rock fisherman, you don't know if they're we aring a life jacket or not.
Speaker: You know it's a big surf, they're being washed off.
Speaker: So seconds do count, but it also takes a while to find them because we can cover Bondi over to Quo Valley, but then we've got a big stretch Bondi up to South Head around the heads of the harbour.
Speaker: That could take us sometimes 20 minutes, half an hour to get up there, but it's pretty big.
Speaker: Depends on the winds.
Speaker: And we know it can take 20 seconds for someone to drown.
Speaker: So I think when you're getting suited up, you're getting the, you know, you're getting information from the police or one through surf.
Speaker: We're kind of looking at the map.
Speaker: All right, who's the informant?
Speaker: When they phone from, you know, where are the crossroads?
Speaker: Try and work out roughly where this person can be.
Speaker: What's the surf doing?
Speaker: If you've got a big south swell or north east swell, it could be another kilometer by the time we get there.
Speaker: So you try and work that out.
Speaker: and then putting the ski in and for that it's like, you know, your adrenaline's pumping, but also controlling that adrenaline.
Speaker: Cause you know, you gotta go slow, you don't wanna miss anything.
Speaker: You wanna make sure if it's right.
Speaker: I think there was one where it was, the surf was massive and we had to go down to the North corner and get out on the jet skis, how big it was.
Speaker: and we were punching with one of the guys.
Speaker: And I remember we went down and the jet ski was like a submarine off the back of this way.
Speaker: It submerged, we both went underwater.
Speaker: And it was with one of the boys, Jess, and he came back out and I was on the back.
Speaker: And his head went back because the water slapped and my tooth went into the back of his head like a towel and split him.
Speaker: And we got all the way there.
Speaker: And for some known reason, we just happened to come across this guy.
Speaker: And he had this homemade life jacket.
Speaker: And we just saw his head.
Speaker: But his eyes were closed, so I thought he was dead.
Speaker: So I jumped off the mat and grabbed him.
Speaker: And then knowing that he was dead, then his eyes opened like that.
Speaker: And it scared the shit out of me.
Speaker: I think I might've, you know, like screamed and it was also a good thing as well.
Speaker: And, and like, it's got to the stage where he'd probably just given up.
Speaker: And the, the, the surf was so, it was so rough.
Speaker: It was huge.
Speaker: The swells and you got the swells when you got the backwash from the, the rocks as well.
Speaker: And there was so much going on and we didn't realize at this stage while I was in the back of the map with them, we had the chopper had arrived.
Speaker: we didn't realize that the chopper had abseiled some, you know, down.
Speaker: And next minute, I'm just seeing this guy with a full snorkel, like scuba Steve on, mouth on, hooked up to the chopper.
Speaker: And he just goes, like, hand the guy to me.
Speaker: And I just went, like, threw him over, strapped him in.
Speaker: And he just gave me a nod.
Speaker: It was like something out of Michael Gardner in the Coast Guard movie.
Speaker: And just, you know, gave me a nod and just got winched up.
Speaker: And that, like, those ones are pretty cool.
Speaker: And I think, yeah, they're the ones that, you know, your adrenaline's pumping.
Speaker: You know, you know, it's...
Speaker: you know, seconds do count.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And adding onto that, the stressful, the blood's pumping, how do you deal with your stress?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I was going to say you get back on the beach and then, you know, how do you process and deal with that?
Speaker: That you're on your days off too.
Speaker: Like, well, how do you deal with stressful situations?
Speaker: I never, I used to like kind of embrace that adrenaline.
Speaker: I think when I was younger, you kind of got back on the beach and you, you kind of pump, you know, you've done that and you know,
Speaker: um, the adrenaline still going.
Speaker: I didn't really, like you still pump, like you still wide after a big day when you get home and it's strange.
Speaker: And I used to kind of enjoy that till it got to a stage.
Speaker: And then I realized, Whoa, this is actually no good because it does take a toll on the body.
Speaker: And it's, um, it's, um,
Speaker: It's only recently till we started doing those, an induction with Alan, who I know has been here.
Speaker: Yes, Alan, what an incredible chat we had with Alan, Alan's box.
Speaker: And it was great.
Speaker: And then just the breathing, just that box breathing.
Speaker: Was it four seconds up, four seconds hold?
Speaker: Four flat, four out.
Speaker: Yeah, that's what I do if I'm in a turbulent flight.
Speaker: Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker: And that's what I can kind of do, you know, after a big day.
Speaker: Like, oh, gather my, you know, sort my breath out.
Speaker: It's amazing how it calms your nervous system, isn't it?
Speaker: When you just slow your breathing or focus on it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And then I even found that that was great for me in the jungle.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Which, you know, we touched on later, but that's something I took out of it and actually told our mates and they were using it too.
Speaker: And they found it work.
Speaker: Which we've done the next question we're going into the jungle, but just quickly, I do want to add that me and you, you know, we work together, we just live together, but in the last probably six to eight months, we started training most days together again down at, down at Rose Bay.
Speaker: For me, I have stressful days and training and seeing you and a few of the other regular guys helps me de-stress.
Speaker: Do you reckon training de-stresses you as well?
Speaker: Yeah, 100%.
Speaker: I think it's – and for me – I know you go for walks too.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: For me, I find which helps is a routine.
Speaker: And it's hard because as I'm the same as Maxie, I'm a casual lifeguard.
Speaker: So I don't have set days, you know, I might do, you know, seven days in a row.
Speaker: I might do one day a week.
Speaker: It just depends.
Speaker: And I think for me having that routine keeps me somewhat sane.
Speaker: Like before I went overseas, I did the 5am every morning and I knew
Speaker: And for me, it was just, I felt better that I did that or, and then I also go, we go for our walks and just wrap that up.
Speaker: And I just, you just switch off from life for a minute.
Speaker: You rock up, someone tells you what you have to do.
Speaker: You get put in the hurt locker and you don't even have to think about it.
Speaker: And you come out feeling so good.
Speaker: You'll have a swim.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it's great.
Speaker: And there's like-minded people there.
Speaker: And I can not feel like training.
Speaker: And that's why I do the 5 a.m.
Speaker: Because when I'm off, I don't have to think about it.
Speaker: I just fall asleep, get there.
Speaker: Then I get there, I'm like, what am I doing here?
Speaker: Where for me, I can't train in the afternoon because I know it's 30.
Speaker: I have to be out, you know, straight in.
Speaker: I've been walking a bit.
Speaker: My back's been playing off a bit.
Speaker: So I've just been walking with podcasts.
Speaker: And I've actually loved it, really loved it.
Speaker: I'm walking a bit further because I don't even realize I'm walking because I'm interested in what I'm listening to.
Speaker: But I'm the same up, straight out, because then the monkey's off my back.
Speaker: You know, you have got no hope of me doing anything at four o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker: I am like, you know, like I'll be out at five o'clock every day of the week.
Speaker: And it does set you up for the day, I reckon.
Speaker: It really, if you can do it, not everyone can be a morning person, but if you can do it, it's so good for like just clarity of the day as well.
Speaker: It really does just get your mind in the right space.
Speaker: Definitely.
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: We are going to the jungle side of the chat.
Speaker: I know there's probably a few people out there that are curious to hear about your experiences and about the jungle.
Speaker: But first things first, you picked Live, Learn, Survive as your charity on I'm a Celebrity AU.
Speaker: What made it so meaningful for you?
Speaker: For me, picking Live, Learn, Survive was a no-brainer.
Speaker: I think...
Speaker: From the work that we do, we can understand how, you know, children can be very, you know, helpless.
Speaker: It's very, you know, like the way I look at it, and this might sound a bit ridiculous, but, you know, when we rescue someone that's hung their towel on one of our dangerous current, you know, dangerous current signs, you know, thinking they're bigger and better than they are, and they get into trouble, you know, you see like, mate, what an idiot, like,
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And you know, because these older people, you know, they know the difference between right and wrong.
Speaker: Like they can help themselves.
Speaker: They chose to make that decision.
Speaker: And for me, I'm like, you're an idiot.
Speaker: But for children, they don't know a lot of these things.
Speaker: And I think what you guys are doing is...
Speaker: you know, preparing people for their worst days.
Speaker: And that's what I said to people in the jungle.
Speaker: Like it's, you actually don't, like we, for some reason at Bondi stuff happens all the time.
Speaker: We don't know why.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's why they made a TV show out of it.
Speaker: Cause people, you just can't believe what happens down there.
Speaker: But a lot of people go throughout their life without, you know, a lot of bad things happening, you know, like,
Speaker: But when it does happen, I tell you what, like it happens quickly.
Speaker: And, you know, we know people, you can do a first aid course and that can still go out the window, everything you learned in there.
Speaker: And when we do this stuff every day, it's muscle memory for us.
Speaker: So I think it's important for especially kids to understand, you know,
Speaker: life's not perfect there are going to be some things happen like you might be driving you come across a car accident or you know your friend cuts their finger or you know like you know around the community you know who in Australia there's bushfires you know natural disasters that's like me in New Zealand like I was lifeguarding you know you know I used to do you know CPR first day but chuck an earthquake in there and you know I think that's one thing when I was lifeguarding when I was younger you know to like this is what we need to get done you know you kind of have to think on your toes and
Speaker: I just, from seeing what I've seen, I just want to make sure that kids are ready.
Speaker: A big one for me, which I did say to the others in the jungle is it's very intimidating to call triple O or the emergency service number from wherever in the world you are.
Speaker: it's even when you're in the tower and you call AAA, you're like, all right, yeah, and they go, police, fire, ambulance.
Speaker: And it's about getting that information right.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And that's daunting for kids.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: And for me thinking that, you know, if, God forbid, something happened to, you know, one of their family members and they can't make that call, it's going to be the kids to make that call.
Speaker: And seriously, that can save a life.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: We know firsthand when we get a call and we don't know where they are, we haven't got a good location, that could add an extra 20 minutes, half an hour from police to get there.
Speaker: We saw it one time when we were...
Speaker: It was after hours, we'd just finished.
Speaker: And then I think we might've been having a drink across the road and police started rocking up, ambos, everything.
Speaker: We ran across the road and we spoke to the police, they go, someone's just been pulled from the water.
Speaker: And we're like, mate, there's no one down here.
Speaker: Like we haven't seen anything.
Speaker: They're like, yeah, we've got the call.
Speaker: And then the choppers rocked up.
Speaker: And then anyway, what we found out, there was a place up or down the coast, sounded like Bondi, but it's like Bombay or something.
Speaker: And they got it mixed up and they weren't clear about it.
Speaker: So they pulled someone out of the water from here, but then they made it sound like Bondi and they've all got there.
Speaker: So I think that's just one thing I think that, you know, it's a great thing for kids to have.
Speaker: Well, cross streets and that as well.
Speaker: Yeah, cross streets.
Speaker: I've known you cross streets, known you're suburbs.
Speaker: You know, you could always say in schools, you've got a place called Pacific Beach.
Speaker: It could be five kilometres long.
Speaker: you say Pacific Beach there's a chance they might send the emergency service to the wrong part of the beach so learning information science knowing the exact locations using smartphones if kids have access to them and yeah I met a guy on Friday at a lunch and I was saying what we did and I and he got like little kids and he said you know well you know what do you do and I said well
Speaker: We teach kids simple skills to survive, you know, their worst day.
Speaker: And he goes, oh, my life.
Speaker: He goes, I send my kids to school in the morning.
Speaker: I can get them to school.
Speaker: I can do that.
Speaker: He goes, my biggest, biggest thing is are they all right getting home?
Speaker: I'm at work.
Speaker: The day gets busy.
Speaker: And I said, well, something like as simple as they probably know to ring triple zero.
Speaker: Do they know what they're going to be asked?
Speaker: And do they know where they are?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: If they just know what they might be asked and they can give a location, if they don't remember any of the rest of it, that second count, that might just be enough.
Speaker: So this guy was like,
Speaker: give me you know give me your number and this guy works in a really good marketing opportunity and I and he told me what he did and I actually said to him look I'm a terrible client for you because I'm a charity and we want everything for free and he said well I've got this huge billboard and
Speaker: that's visible for 110,000 people a day.
Speaker: And he goes, I give stuff to people like you for free.
Speaker: And I was like, right, let's get my number, you know.
Speaker: So, you know, it's like, as a parent, that would be...
Speaker: your worst nightmare that they are on their own and they don't know what to do.
Speaker: And that's a big one that I did say in camp as well when I talked them through like some basic CPR, you know, like, and it's also not for me, not putting pressure on kids.
Speaker: It's just one thing I like is like doing something is better than doing nothing, you know?
Speaker: And we've seen that when I forgot the story along the lines of a brother found a
Speaker: his other brother face down in the pool.
Speaker: And because he had seen Bondi Rescue, he'd never done a first aid course before.
Speaker: He was up and down or something.
Speaker: Yeah, he just had to pump on the chest.
Speaker: And he did that and he ended up saving his brother's life, you know.
Speaker: And that was just through watching Bondi Rescue, which is great.
Speaker: But for people that haven't watched that and haven't done a first aid course and just doing nothing, and then you'll have to live that for the rest of your life, you know.
Speaker: So that's why...
Speaker: Yeah, even in schools with the resource dummy, just teaching kids to clap to the beat, they might just remember that beat.
Speaker: You don't know what bit of information they're going to remember.
Speaker: And yeah, it's like you never know when it might just come in handy because we also met a family in England, 15-year-old lad, really lovely, lovely, lovely lad, really hot day.
Speaker: in England, which quite unusual, went straight into the sea and ended up drowning underneath the pier.
Speaker: You know, just a 15 year old that just did not know what to do in that moment to just even what you say, watch the water.
Speaker: like literally hot day went straight in, you know?
Speaker: So, so no, absolutely.
Speaker: You know what, Harrison?
Speaker: And I said it when I rang you, when you came out, I like, thank you.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Cause what you did for us with the awareness, just followers, we got some donations.
Speaker: People now know about us that didn't know about us before.
Speaker: Honestly,
Speaker: It was just, yeah, so, so, so grateful.
Speaker: So let's, people will want to know a bit about this jungle.
Speaker: What was the most unexpected or shocking part about it?
Speaker: And to quote you, are you kidding me?
Speaker: I think the funny thing was me going into the air, like I knew it was going to be tough.
Speaker: The things that...
Speaker: I thought was going to be tough.
Speaker: I actually found a bit easier.
Speaker: The things I thought was going to be easier, I really struggled with, which is quite a funny way to do it.
Speaker: Um, one of the ones was, I was really nervous about my sleep going in there.
Speaker: I mean, you know, I've got a great bed.
Speaker: I sleep well at night, no issues.
Speaker: But going into like a single small canvas stretcher, uh, in the jungle, someone that hates insects, spiders and snakes and no protection.
Speaker: I'm like, I'm going to really struggle with this, but I've never slept so good in my life.
Speaker: It was strange.
Speaker: They call that the cicadic rhythm where when you're in there, you don't have, you don't have your phone with you.
Speaker: They take your phone off you.
Speaker: You're not sitting there.
Speaker: You're not scrolling.
Speaker: And then you go to sleep.
Speaker: When the sun goes down, your body automatically does that.
Speaker: And you just listen to the sounds of the animals and insects, which is very cool.
Speaker: And it took me like jet lag aside a bit of time to recover and getting back to sleep normally here.
Speaker: The other thing which I love, like I love being around people and, you know, the campmates I was with, they were great, great people.
Speaker: But then for me, I still need my downtime and I didn't really think about that.
Speaker: And since you're in a confined area, you just didn't get your downtime.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You did say that you're the only person, which I mean, funny, they didn't show much of it.
Speaker: Every day you went for a swim at the waterfall.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: You're the only person that did.
Speaker: It was Maddie and I and we're like,
Speaker: we never, we never kind of turn down a waterfall trip.
Speaker: It's just, it's a walk, you know, 200 meters, 300 meters to the waterfall over quick swimming.
Speaker: You know, the depleting you of, of, of food there, you know, we're only getting 800 calories a day unless we won the challenges.
Speaker: So, you know, we had about a few spoonfuls of oats in the morning, rice and beans for lunch, and then hopefully, you know, a meal at night.
Speaker: So you are like exhausted and you had to walk around for safety, these steel cap boots because of all the snakes and whatnot.
Speaker: And like, we'll walk up for the Tok Toki, which is where we did the interview and it was like eight flights of steps.
Speaker: to get in there.
Speaker: And I was huffing and puffing in there.
Speaker: Really, eight flights of stairs to get, is it up the top?
Speaker: Oh yeah, stairs, like just on the slope kind of thing.
Speaker: And I was... Because it kind of seems it's like...
Speaker: Yeah, up three steps.
Speaker: Yeah, it looks like it's just way to the left.
Speaker: When Max was screaming and yelling with the bugs and stuff that are in there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: No, there's two Tok Tokis.
Speaker: Oh, okay.
Speaker: Yeah, so there's one there and one there.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: When Max was yelling, there was one down below and we thought something.
Speaker: I've seen that face I've seen way too many times.
Speaker: You're on.
Speaker: You're on.
Speaker: And the way you move, you're out of there.
Speaker: You're on.
Speaker: But yeah, man, that's cool.
Speaker: I've had it luckily to have a couple of chats with you while we've been training and after for coffee and stuff like that.
Speaker: So I suppose going down to that waterfall was like your...
Speaker: Sorry, Maxi, I bought it in there and I didn't mean to put it in.
Speaker: I was going to say, yeah, like hearing some of the stories that Harrison said, talking about the waterfall and de-stressing and stuff like that, I didn't realise that you had good sleeps and stuff like that.
Speaker: Yeah, and the waterfall is fine because the canopy of the jungle is so thick.
Speaker: You didn't see it.
Speaker: When we're there, it's like 40 degrees and like it's so hot.
Speaker: And the whole time, so I was in there for 27 days.
Speaker: in the camp and all you have is warm water the water's warm and then so but you have to get it down you and after about four days you just you're over it but yeah it's very important then you don't you don't get any sun because of the canopy so we're going to go to the waterfall and there's sun we would honestly and hughesie was funny because he's like the guru when you just put it in the day for 20 minutes half an hour it made me feel so much better and happier yes
Speaker: Like I said a few times, people are hyping up about the tan.
Speaker: We all know that you love the sun and you're out in the outdoors.
Speaker: But I think Max or someone ripped into you about being a little tanned or something like that.
Speaker: Vake tan, yeah.
Speaker: I reckon if you've got all of that, the...
Speaker: the people and the, the chatter and, you know, cause probably, you know, the only time it was completely quiet is when everyone's gone to sleep.
Speaker: So if you're able to go to the waterfall, even just float and have your head on the water or something, just have a bit of silence.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Um, I know that would be important to me cause I'm a really social person, but same, I need to move my retreat cause that's how I refuel.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, it's really, really hard.
Speaker: That's interesting.
Speaker: So anything else that you thought was going to be easy that was really hard?
Speaker: No, I went, I honestly took this approach as, I'm scared of everything, by the way.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I caught her in and moved with friends in New Zealand and like, I can't, I can't even hold a fish.
Speaker: So I'm like, ugh, like it's just so slippery and slimy.
Speaker: And we caught a fish.
Speaker: This is, this is like seriously five days before I went in and I went to hold it and it just wiggled and I just dropped it and the fish fell in the water and I pretty much shit myself.
Speaker: And they thought it was the funniest thing.
Speaker: They're like, you go into the jungle, you can't even hold a fish.
Speaker: And I'm like, it was that realization like, oh, like I'm, I'm in the deep end here.
Speaker: This is not good.
Speaker: um but then you know first day going in there i got bitten by snake five times you know like and having that but it was amazing because it's when you're in that situation where you have to do well so you can't make it you know camp mates have to eat where that was just for me i'll be like screw this i'm out but when you have the friendship you gotta you know get food for the camp it's like it's funny you find another gear which is pretty cool and
Speaker: Having to put your hand back in there knowing there's a snake and you've been bitten before.
Speaker: The mental games that get played in your head are horrible.
Speaker: And then my next time I went on a trial,
Speaker: which was on this train and they had those Heidi whole boxes there as well.
Speaker: The lions.
Speaker: I got bit and then no one had to do it again.
Speaker: It's just, yeah, it makes its toll big time.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Literally you, you were like incredible that I, I don't think I've ever seen anyone enter the jungle and get bit like that.
Speaker: Like literally that was just a, what a welcome.
Speaker: That's Nate literally.
Speaker: Like insane, insane, insane.
Speaker: You next, Maxie, number eight.
Speaker: Yeah, so what's something the cameras didn't show that the fans would love to know?
Speaker: That you're able to tell us probably.
Speaker: Yeah, I think for us it's like we're in there for a long time and there's also a lot of downtime.
Speaker: I mean, if you're not going –
Speaker: on a trial, you're there, you know, you might go on a trial every three or four days, you don't know when you're gonna go.
Speaker: And the downtime was massive.
Speaker: And,
Speaker: It was just having to rely on your campmates to keep you occupied.
Speaker: Otherwise, it's a long day in there.
Speaker: But it's also, as well, conserving your energy.
Speaker: We kind of went in there the first one or two days, had this gym set up.
Speaker: We'll have a train, the guys.
Speaker: You're in there with a couple of footy players.
Speaker: You try and prove your worthiness.
Speaker: Then after day three, you're like, I cannot go in there.
Speaker: Because you're so exhausted.
Speaker: You've got nothing in the tank.
Speaker: You got no protein to, you know, you got the strength to do it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And the other thing is, is like, um,
Speaker: which they don't understand is, is how you're feeling as well.
Speaker: Like people don't understand.
Speaker: They're kind of what you watch someone like, Oh, wow.
Speaker: That's it.
Speaker: It's not that bad and all that, but you get depleted of everything.
Speaker: So you're, you know, a lot of the guys who drink coffee, you know, they come off caffeine for me, sugar.
Speaker: Like, you know, it was amazing coming off sugar and the, and the lows that you hit day four.
Speaker: I was in such a dark place.
Speaker: I was going to read it.
Speaker: I was like,
Speaker: I'd already told myself that I was leaving tomorrow, day five.
Speaker: You know, it was so tough.
Speaker: Then day five, I woke up and I was a bit better.
Speaker: It was just what your body does is amazing.
Speaker: And then like, like I only reason why I train is so I can eat whatever I want.
Speaker: Like I love my food as maxi or voucher.
Speaker: And, um,
Speaker: pre jungle, give me a packet of Tim Tams.
Speaker: I could probably, you know, polish off the whole packet, you know, and I didn't touch the sides, but being off sugar for two and a half weeks and having one single Tim Tam, I can't even explain the feeling it was like, just like it was, it was ridiculous.
Speaker: And I think, you know, and then, you know, you're, you're hungry and you go to these trials and some mind games and people don't really know, you know, like how you're actually feeling it and it takes its toll.
Speaker: And the other thing I would probably say as well is, you know, is the smells.
Speaker: When they watch it on TV, they cannot smell the smells.
Speaker: But like, for example, every morning we have to change the long drops over and the toilet's blank.
Speaker: And then also the food challenges.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: Like when you rock up there, by the time you get there, you're blindfolded the whole time.
Speaker: So you don't know where you are.
Speaker: When you leave camp, you get blindfolded.
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: And then so that really screws up your head as well.
Speaker: And then you rock up to the set and all you can do is just smell everything and it smells disgusting.
Speaker: And the flies, the flies are all around you and you walk in there and you're looking at this food and you try and tell yourself, I can do this or try and relate it to another food.
Speaker: Like, you know, the testicle, you're like, oh, it's a meatball.
Speaker: The goat's anus looks like calamari.
Speaker: I'm having calamari.
Speaker: But the smell, I'd have that Norwegian delicacy, that drink.
Speaker: It was like that fish hearing blended up.
Speaker: And you see the eyeballs and having to drink that.
Speaker: But the smell was 10 times worse than actually seeing it.
Speaker: So I think that was a big one for me.
Speaker: I can't even begin to imagine, Harrison.
Speaker: I just can't begin.
Speaker: So that all said, did you go in with a strategy or did you just go, I'm going to go with the flow?
Speaker: Yeah, my goal was to, I've never really been out of my comfort zone.
Speaker: And this opportunity came up.
Speaker: And it's funny, like we've had chats in the towers in those rainy days.
Speaker: We talk a lot of rubbish.
Speaker: And they're like, if you go any reality TV show, what would it be?
Speaker: And then, um, it was always my mom was to go on that show.
Speaker: Like, um, cause I've never been out of my comfort zone.
Speaker: Um, I wouldn't go on anyone like alone when they drop you off in the wilderness, like it's a bit too aggressive.
Speaker: Um, but yeah, I think I just wanted to challenge myself and
Speaker: if I was going to do it, if there's a camera in front of you, you've got, you really got to step up.
Speaker: And, um, yeah, I think that was it.
Speaker: I was fortunate enough to get that opportunity.
Speaker: And I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker: I'm not here to prove myself.
Speaker: Um, I think it got to like day 12 and I said to myself, if I got eliminated now, I'm like, I'm,
Speaker: I'm happy.
Speaker: Obviously, I love to get in when, you know, the money is advised.
Speaker: Oh, we weren't letting you out quickly, Harrison.
Speaker: Maxie jumped out of every bush in Sydney that he could find.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: That's the thing they showed me when I got out of the jungle too.
Speaker: The pop-up team kind of gave me a rundown of what's been happening because I've been cut off in an outside world.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: That was your favourite.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think they, you know, I think we got a bit of respect, Maxie, didn't we, for our little effort of Live, Learn, Survive?
Speaker: Because we knew we were small, but we were going to be fighting well above our weight of, like, you know,
Speaker: I'd got the ironing board out and the sheets.
Speaker: And I was just like, because I know my mates know that I'm an idiot and they'd be laughing at me.
Speaker: And I'm like, I don't laugh at me, but vote for Harrison, please.
Speaker: It was like, it was, no, it was so much.
Speaker: We were not letting you out soon.
Speaker: There was no way that was happening.
Speaker: No, it was good.
Speaker: But on that for me, it was just like, I think it was like day 14.
Speaker: I'm like...
Speaker: Well, I was actually sitting there and I'm pretty proud of myself what I've done.
Speaker: Like, there's no way I thought I could do that, do those things, you know.
Speaker: And, yeah, honestly, I came out of there and achieved what I wanted to achieve, which is pretty cool.
Speaker: Amazing, mate.
Speaker: Look, you can catch up with Robert Irwin and ask, you know, how many snakes have bitten him.
Speaker: And, you know, and then, you know, you've got that story for the dinner party for the rest of your life, Harrison.
Speaker: That's like, you know, you will always have that story at a party.
Speaker: So brilliant.
Speaker: I was thinking about Rob as well because so many snakes there.
Speaker: And Robert, you know, deals with snakes all around the world.
Speaker: But I think, like, it was part of that where, like, they had to get the actual snake catch to them from South Africa because a green snake in Australia is –
Speaker: There's, you know, a tree snake and they're the most harmful ones.
Speaker: But a green snake in Africa is one of the most venomous ones.
Speaker: Like in a brown snake in Australia is our worst snake.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Brown snake in Africa is fine.
Speaker: I remember the first day I arrived, I had like three days in holding.
Speaker: I was staying there and they took the phone off me.
Speaker: And we're at this, the accommodation with a holding me at the channel 10 guy to come and shoot some stuff for their socials.
Speaker: He goes, look, we just go to the bush on the side here and just get some things.
Speaker: I'm like, yep, sweet.
Speaker: And I remember looking down and seeing these bunch of rocks going, I mean, that'd be a perfect place for a snake to hang out.
Speaker: And I looked up and in the tree next to me, like not even half a meter away was the snake hanging on a branch, just looking at me.
Speaker: I was like, oh shit.
Speaker: I'm like, she kind of caught me off guard.
Speaker: And the guy filming hated snakes.
Speaker: He goes, we're getting out of here.
Speaker: Let's go.
Speaker: And I had a chaperone stay with me as well.
Speaker: So everywhere I went, she had to go.
Speaker: I went back and I was talking to her about what I'd seen.
Speaker: I saw a snake.
Speaker: She said, oh, which one was it?
Speaker: I'm like, oh, it's kind of dark the color.
Speaker: It had this white line going down the side all the way.
Speaker: She goes,
Speaker: oh my God, that's one of our most venomous snakes.
Speaker: And I'm like, all right, I'm in the jungle now.
Speaker: This is probably... Yeah, here is my welcome.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But, you know, yeah.
Speaker: I, you know, you kind of think, you know, there would be a whole crew.
Speaker: They wouldn't surely expect Robert Irwin to be picking every snake.
Speaker: But he's a handy bloke to have around, isn't he?
Speaker: You know, he's like, what a legend.
Speaker: Legend.
Speaker: Robert was the biggest legend.
Speaker: And...
Speaker: And Julia, like, you know, when you go to trials, which is bloody daunting, but they were there and they put a smile on your face and just took your mind off, you know, whatever you were doing for a second and had a lot of time.
Speaker: I actually think they are brilliant, a brilliant duo.
Speaker: I think Robert Irwin is going to be a megastar of the future.
Speaker: He's literally only 21, isn't he?
Speaker: Yeah, 21, 22.
Speaker: He's so young.
Speaker: Insane.
Speaker: I obviously watched his dad, Steve, when I was younger, growing up and loved him.
Speaker: It was a religion of mine to watch every Crocodile Hunter show.
Speaker: And then I remember I was doing my...
Speaker: I was doing my second trial and I was finished.
Speaker: I kind of looked around and I saw Thierry Owen get into the car.
Speaker: So she was there the whole time watching as well for the whole period.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I remember when I left, I saw her, I just gave her the biggest hug.
Speaker: I'm just like, you know, it was weird because you watch these people so, you know, when you grow up on TV.
Speaker: So it was pretty special seeing those.
Speaker: Maxie and I had an appointment about two years ago.
Speaker: You might not remember, Maxie.
Speaker: We were in the lobby of Queensland Parliament.
Speaker: I remember Terry and Bindi were talking to some people behind us.
Speaker: And I was like, oh, you know, when you want to just say hello and like, you know, just say, say hello.
Speaker: And then you just think that's not cool.
Speaker: Leave them be.
Speaker: They're in a meeting.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: But like, I, I, um, I think they're an incredible family and Australia Zoo is a massive, massive, um,
Speaker: You know, like they've just opened up the Crocodile Hunter Lodge next to it.
Speaker: I've actually been a drive by and seen it because it's only about an hour away from me.
Speaker: And it's that zoo is just phenomenal.
Speaker: And, you know, just massive respect for the whole, all of them.
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: Mate, on to the next question.
Speaker: Who is the biggest legend in the jungle and why?
Speaker: Look, everyone was great.
Speaker: And, um, you know, like the way, you know, I spoke earlier about the lifeguards being like a footy team.
Speaker: Everyone brings your own little bit of, uh, of magic to the team.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: Sam Friday was for me one of the biggest legends just cause you know, it was so selfless, you know, he helped everyone.
Speaker: He was like the cat's dad and you know, nothing fazed him in there.
Speaker: But then, you know, I got him really well with Matty J. We had a lot of fun.
Speaker: He's a familiar face from, you know, Bondi.
Speaker: Husey as well.
Speaker: he just he just made us laugh and it's great to have someone like that when you go through those dark days you know and someone just uh just uh just to brighten the mood but everyone was good everyone's different everyone helped out which is great it seemed a really nice bunch yeah and this was so emotional when the um uh when the eliminations happened because like this started to go ripped apart yeah it's amazing isn't it how quickly you form a bond
Speaker: And then you're like, you know, it's, it's, you know, as humans, we're all about, you know, connections and people and how quickly you do form that bond.
Speaker: And it's like, you can't imagine them leaving.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: So what did you miss the most?
Speaker: You probably kind of covered this.
Speaker: So don't, don't stress too much.
Speaker: Food.
Speaker: Food and probably family and friends as well.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think that was, that was a big one for me.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And, and yeah, like I know how much you love your food.
Speaker: I love my food too.
Speaker: But, uh, the fact that you will survive enough rice and beans every day.
Speaker: Oh yeah.
Speaker: Amazing effort.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: When we did, when, um, did win some trials, it was good.
Speaker: I think there was one day in there towards the end we won some McDonald's and it was funny because like,
Speaker: Yeah, the burger was good.
Speaker: But I tell you what, after drinking water for three weeks, warm water, having a cold Coke with ice, like I can't even describe that sensation of that going down your throat.
Speaker: It was just so nice.
Speaker: Yeah, a cool drink.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And, you know, we did win some good food.
Speaker: We won some steaks and all that.
Speaker: But, like, one of the ones who won –
Speaker: when there's chicken, there was no meat in it whatsoever.
Speaker: So you only got a bit of square.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So it was a big, never a dull moment, mate.
Speaker: Never a dull moment.
Speaker: Brutal.
Speaker: Brutal.
Speaker: I know you're really close to your family, but this is probably part of your answer, but how do you feel about no contact from the outside world and not having your phone?
Speaker: It's tough because like a phone's a big part of your life now, isn't it?
Speaker: Like, it's weird, you know, you set an alarm in the morning, you look at it, you know, then you go off.
Speaker: And the first three or four days, I remember like waking up and you're on this horrible stretcher.
Speaker: And like you automatically start doing those ones.
Speaker: When you lift your stuff up, where's my phone?
Speaker: I don't have it here with me, you know, which is quite funny.
Speaker: And then after, you know, coming up to a week, you don't even think about it.
Speaker: yeah and for me um you know there's a few things that i'm taking from the jungle back to the i call the real world is like this thing now does my head in but i i hate my phone yeah um i now have um my notifications turned off unless i get a text message or um
Speaker: I used to think going into it like, oh, for example, on Instagram, like I've got to have it on case someone's getting in touch with you.
Speaker: Then I end up scrolling just to wasting time.
Speaker: One thing I learned coming out of the jungle, I got my phone.
Speaker: Nothing bad had happened.
Speaker: It's still there.
Speaker: I'm eventually going to get back to people.
Speaker: But if someone really needs to get to me, something major, they're going to ring.
Speaker: So I think that was one thing.
Speaker: And the amount of times I look at your phone and just – I know that sounds really cliche because I've heard it before and they go, I want to be free.
Speaker: I want to be in the moment.
Speaker: I just shut up.
Speaker: But, yeah, it kind of makes a lot of sense.
Speaker: So I think that was a big one for me.
Speaker: I think that is like, and that was one of the things when I rang you, I was really curious to know.
Speaker: And I actually, I've moved some of the, what I call the prime suspects, Instagram, doom scrolling.
Speaker: I've moved them off the front page of my phone.
Speaker: And I've put notifications off because I don't have alerts or anything.
Speaker: But, you know, the badge where you can know there's a message.
Speaker: And I've put some of the notifications off because if you see a number on that, you're clicking on it.
Speaker: There's no way, you know, you're clicking on it.
Speaker: And it's interesting how it's made me stop.
Speaker: And what you said, Harrison, as well.
Speaker: I know if it's urgent, text me.
Speaker: If it's urgent enough, someone's got my phone number, so text me.
Speaker: Even if WhatsApp, I might not have looked at WhatsApp for hours.
Speaker: If it's urgent, text or ring me.
Speaker: And if not, I'll pick it up when I pick it up.
Speaker: And I think if younger people listening...
Speaker: take one thing from you is that you like are going to adopt different habits because I think screen time and phones are an addiction.
Speaker: And if you can, it wasn't a, it wasn't a thing when I was a kid, as a teenager, it just didn't happen.
Speaker: Um, it wasn't even around, you know, but I think if that's one thing, just, just don't let it rule you, you rule it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And a big one for me was the news.
Speaker: Like I don't watch the news at night, but always look at the news websites.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And then being cut off from the outside world.
Speaker: I think that I've learned coming out, like,
Speaker: you know, the amount of news stories that I miss, but the world's still going to go around and just how depressing the news is, you know, like it is me.
Speaker: It's just like, I just don't look at it now.
Speaker: I just worry about what I'm doing.
Speaker: If something does affect me, I'll probably eventually find out.
Speaker: But then that w as a big one for me as well.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: No, because it does, it gets in a, it gets you in a mindset and it's not, it's just not healthy.
Speaker: So, um,
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: I think it's appropriate I ask this one, Maxie.
Speaker: If you could bring one Bondi lifeguard into the jungle with you, who would it be and how do you think they'd handle it?
Speaker: No pressure that you have to say the boat next year.
Speaker: But I think I would love to know how you think he would handle it.
Speaker: But yeah, who would you take in and how do you think they'd handle it?
Speaker: I'd love to see Maxi in there because he loves you do those runs, you've been doing those challenges.
Speaker: I think he'll enjoy just being in those situations, which would be pretty cool.
Speaker: I also think he'll be a great asset to camp as well because
Speaker: You know, you know how to laugh.
Speaker: It's a good time.
Speaker: But it's a good thing about being in camp is like stories, you know, and it does help people.
Speaker: It kills time.
Speaker: I think, you know, from the fireys, you know, the lifeguards, there's a lot of things you can talk about.
Speaker: And, you know, it does help.
Speaker: You know, I think, yeah, Maxie would be good in there.
Speaker: I'd love to see Will Bigelow in there, though.
Speaker: I think for just a big unit on that single campus.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Could hold him, you know, to see him because I know he gets grumpy and then him getting no sleep would be pretty funny to see.
Speaker: I would love to watch Maxie for four weeks with no coffee.
Speaker: That would be like.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: And also, you know, like just the food and all that.
Speaker: Actually, just one question with that, thinking about it, you talked about Sun Friday.
Speaker: So you've got someone like Sun Friday and then you've got like Reggie.
Speaker: Rice and beans, is it the same portion?
Speaker: Same portion.
Speaker: Brutal.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Crazy, hey.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Actually, I'm glad that I just thought of that because I thought, is it proportion on like, you know, you've got elite athlete to, you know, compare it to, you know, someone who's not.
Speaker: And Jaina Jack struggled, didn't she, with that?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: you know, the lack of food.
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Next one, you Maxie.
Speaker: Well, thanks for the insight of the jungle, mate.
Speaker: It sounds like you had an amazing time.
Speaker: You know, it was great to watch you all those weeks.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: Moving into the next question, changing away from the jungle is when you are not saving lives, what are some of your hobbies?
Speaker: I think it's actually gone away from the beach, but I do love –
Speaker: having a swim if it's a nice day, I think you'll be the same.
Speaker: If I go to the beach my day off, I can't go to any of the coastal beaches.
Speaker: I go to the harbor beaches where there's no waves, because it's summer, I just can't switch off.
Speaker: You're always watching the water or watching the rips.
Speaker: So we go, like if I go to Camp Cove, Nielsen Park, I can honestly just relax and enjoy the beach.
Speaker: Face, or from there, face east.
Speaker: Yeah, face east on the way over here.
Speaker: So I think that's a big one for me.
Speaker: It's also, you know, in the busy period, there's nothing better than your day off.
Speaker: And it might be 30 degrees outside, hot and sunny.
Speaker: But to tell you what, it's just nice just to close the lines, bit of air con, bit of telly, just to really just distract the mind.
Speaker: Big one for me is obviously training, get a session in.
Speaker: I love going for my walks.
Speaker: I love some good food, go and, you know, suss something out, catch up with a mate.
Speaker: I'm not good at golf.
Speaker: But I love it.
Speaker: So maybe even that as well.
Speaker: Yeah, I think just enjoy that.
Speaker: Enjoy those things.
Speaker: Happy days.
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: Where are we now?
Speaker: So.
Speaker: Dean.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: Dean, you have a big career goal.
Speaker: And what's next for Harrison?
Speaker: Anything that you're working towards?
Speaker: Yeah, not sure yet.
Speaker: I mean, there is probably next chapter of my life and I haven't really thought about that.
Speaker: I honestly wanted to think about that going into the jungle and I thought I would come up with everything with the amount of time and
Speaker: thought about nothing.
Speaker: Even though I had so much downtime, I think it was just like a matter of survival.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it's something, you know, like obviously I'm not full-time on the beach, I'm a casual and, you know, there is another job out there for me.
Speaker: I'm not sure what I'm going to get into just yet.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But I'm excited to keep pushing that idea and, yeah, it's great.
Speaker: Good stuff.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's interesting, isn't it?
Speaker: You think you've got all that time in the world
Speaker: and it's like going to be, you know, big life decisions and then you find out actually I've got the energy for big life decisions that can wait till I can get back to normality.
Speaker: Brilliant.
Speaker: Mate, we're towards the back end of the podcast.
Speaker: It's been, I'll tell you, just half an hour, 45 minutes.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: Sorry, Harrison.
Speaker: We love a chat.
Speaker: 15.
Speaker: But last two questions, mate.
Speaker: If you weren't a lifeguard,
Speaker: If you never got into life gardening, what do you reckon you would have done instead?
Speaker: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker: It's weird.
Speaker: You do have an appreciation for emergency services.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Not that if you're going to do that, but I do know that you like to stay on the beat with things that are going around the area and some of the stories that I can tell you.
Speaker: But yeah, answer the question.
Speaker: What do you think?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: My family have a furniture, sell furniture.
Speaker: So before I went in, I was helping out by delivering beds and all that.
Speaker: So if I didn't leave New Zealand, I think I've
Speaker: probably end up doing that.
Speaker: There's a part of me that, you know, wanted to be, you know, either in the police or the ambos at one stage.
Speaker: um, in hindsight now, like seeing what they go through, like I couldn't do their job.
Speaker: I've got a lot of respect for those people in the fire.
Speaker: You actually mentioned that on the show, um, talking about the paramedics and the police, um, what they, what they deal with from day to day.
Speaker: And people, and people don't know what they deal with, you know, they have to put up with and for what they get paid.
Speaker: It's just like, they are the unsung heroes and all that.
Speaker: So, um,
Speaker: Yeah, I'd probably still be in Christchurch and yeah, I wouldn't have this amazing chapter of my life that I've been so thankful to have and all these stories and things that I've done.
Speaker: So yeah, I'm very lucky, very lucky how this has turned out for me.
Speaker: Yeah, brilliant.
Speaker: And, you know, when I was down in Bondi, I actually had the pleasure of having a coffee with your mum and dad.
Speaker: Your dad was hilarious, telling us all the stories that you weren't there to defend yourself.
Speaker: We did have a really good catch up with them.
Speaker: And we were absolutely, I was so, so thrilled that your mum was able to get over and share some of the experience with you because she hadn't been to South Africa, had she?
Speaker: And
Speaker: no it's a nice surprise seeing her there and um what was that like where did we so just tell me what it was like when you realized your mom was there where did you see her uh back where we had the accommodation when they hold us held us and we didn't know they were going to be there yeah um yeah I walked in I think just it was a very overwhelming emotions leaving coming to the real world like you're excited I mean seeing her was great and
Speaker: We had the best four days we were doing.
Speaker: We're going on safaris, looking at lions, elephants, lionesses.
Speaker: So cool.
Speaker: Having food.
Speaker: It was good to have that experience there with her.
Speaker: So it was great.
Speaker: Absolutely, because I think you were eliminated almost within the hour of your mum landing.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: The poor thing was probably, you know, a bit of a whirlwind to get all the way over there.
Speaker: And then I was just keen to do as many things I could before I left.
Speaker: I think we're just, we're running on adrenaline.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, your mum also has the best story for parties now because she can talk about three days she went on safari in South Africa.
Speaker: So, no, so that was amazing.
Speaker: And Harrison, when I rang you the other day, I, you know, just again, live, learn, survive.
Speaker: We are so, so grateful for what we did for you.
Speaker: And, you know, as I said on the phone, anything that you would like to stay in,
Speaker: connected to um and with us with we've got like lots of things sort of coming up we would love you to have you on board with us and um stay as part of the live learn survive family because it's a good good crew and um there's a lot of people so so excited to hopefully meet you sometime later in the year
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, that'd be great.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And adding onto that, mate, you know, you'd be a great partner of understanding.
Speaker: You know, you see from behind the closed doors what me and Lee have done the last 10 plus years.
Speaker: But have you have your input in some places too?
Speaker: They'll be amazing for you to do that as well.
Speaker: And we look forward to catching up with you throughout the year.
Speaker: I'll be seeing you every day, but more so.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: Well, you know what?
Speaker: There was so much support up here in Brisbane.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: I'll actually, you know, it probably rivaled Sam Thighdays, if we're honest.
Speaker: We gave him a good run.
Speaker: You know, so, you know, because some of the border up here and we've got the border, the charity is going to grow.
Speaker: We've got a three year strategy and we've got a whole project that's going to be rolled out, hopefully for Western Sydney.
Speaker: So it'll be great to keep you updated on all of that.
Speaker: And any time you want to come and hang out with us, you are more than more than welcome.
Speaker: We would love to have you.
Speaker: So, thank you.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: So last question, Maxie, you go, you tell us all about the playlist.
Speaker: The people that listen to the podcast every week or every guest and every week we do a podcast, we get a favourite song or a pump-up song and we've added to the playlist.
Speaker: So we would love for you to give you your pump-up song that we could add to the playlist.
Speaker: Probably for me would be, I reckon, which I loved listening there, would be Africa by Toto.
Speaker: Great.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Has to be, what a classic.
Speaker: And we can't play it because the YouTube people ban us or send us like, you know, we get the copyright things.
Speaker: So yeah, now we put it on YouTube, we can't do that anymore.
Speaker: So, but brilliant, brilliant song.
Speaker: And I would guess that Africa will forever hold a special piece of your heart and great memories.
Speaker: Very much so, and great people over there.
Speaker: So it's good.
Speaker: Do you plan to go back one day and do it as a tourist as opposed to a... Yeah, I guess I've kind of done it.
Speaker: I was a tourist after, but it's a big country and a lot to explore there.
Speaker: So I'd love to...
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, Harrison, it's been an absolute joy to have you.
Speaker: We are.
Speaker: Big hug from Brizzy.
Speaker: Till I get to see you in person.
Speaker: Just thank you.
Speaker: We had so many people behind you and you absolutely, I think Australia got to know Harrison the person.
Speaker: You had the smile everybody was talking about.
Speaker: You smiled all the way through that pain and were an absolute credit to yourself.
Speaker: And we couldn't have asked for anybody in there that could have represented us better.
Speaker: So thank you.
Speaker: And yeah, just every opportunity that comes your way because of it, you will forever have us in your court.
Speaker: Thank you so much.
Speaker: Really appreciate it.
Speaker: Thanks for having me.
Speaker: No, it's good to have you.
Speaker: No, no, absolutely.
Speaker: So Monday morning, what's on the rest of the day, boys?
Speaker: Well, I've got to go home and be day to day here because Tali's got to go to work.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: And Tali's got tears off to New Zealand on Wednesday.
Speaker: Yeah, so I'm packing.
Speaker: You're packing.
Speaker: Well, give our best to your mum and dad.
Speaker: Yeah, safe travels.
Speaker: And, yeah, this will be out on Friday.
Speaker: And, oh, I better get a photo, actually.
Speaker: We can put it on the...
Speaker: put it on the socials.
Speaker: We'll give everyone the sneak peek.
Speaker: And yeah, it's been an absolute joy.
Speaker: So enjoy everyone.
Speaker: Here he is, home from the jungle.
Speaker: Thanks, mate.
Speaker: See you.
Speaker: Bye.
Speaker: Bye.
